Matt Connarton Unleashed 4-18-26 hour 3

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1:00 Speaker 3: a Saturday, April eighteen, twenty twenty six, and I am

1:05 Speaker 3: not alone. Let me get this up here. We've got

1:07 Speaker 3: Charles Richardson from The Charles Richardson Show on the line

1:10 Speaker 3: with us Helo.

1:11 Speaker 1: Charles, Hello, test On two.

1:14 Speaker 3: Oh, you sound great, You sound great. How's the how's

1:17 Speaker 3: the we haven't really talked. How's the studio? There? Your

1:20 Speaker 3: your studio setup, which is it's relatively new, right, the

1:23 Speaker 3: new studio.

1:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's mostly new. I mean it's basically

1:27 Speaker 1: a garage converted to a laundry room slash. Half of

1:32 Speaker 1: its my studio areas sort of. Yeah, and Dan Alyssa

1:37 Speaker 1: has her own little corner nook in there where she

1:39 Speaker 1: does arts and crafts. It's a it's it's kind of cramped,

1:43 Speaker 1: but she's okay with it.

1:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, And everything sounds great, sounds sounds really good. So so,

1:50 Speaker 3: of course, Charles, you are here with us because and

1:52 Speaker 3: what has become sort of an unofficial tradition before a

1:56 Speaker 3: lot of these big events, and of course this is

1:58 Speaker 3: the biggest event thatwe has all year, WrestleMania, and it

2:03 Speaker 3: is two nights night one night two, today's Night one

2:06 Speaker 3: of course of WrestleMania forty two, emanating from Las Vegas.

2:11 Speaker 3: And so very excited to have you with us, and

2:14 Speaker 3: you know, we'll we'll talk all about it. I should

2:16 Speaker 3: tell you, though, I have to tell you up front,

2:17 Speaker 3: and you probably know what I'm gonna say. I've not

2:20 Speaker 3: seen SmackDown yet. I don't mind spoilers, it's fine, but

2:24 Speaker 3: Jenny does mind spoilers. So Jenny had to leave because

2:29 Speaker 3: she does not want to know because we haven't watched

2:31 Speaker 3: SmackDown yet. She does not want to know what happened

2:33 Speaker 3: last night on SmackDown.

2:35 Speaker 1: Tone to come back in. There's really not much. There

2:38 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of spoilers, okay there, I mean unless

2:41 Speaker 1: she wants to know who won the Andre of the

2:43 Speaker 1: Giant Battle Royal, which I'm calling a gimmick royal for

2:46 Speaker 1: people that they couldn't fit into WrestleMania, which how in

2:50 Speaker 1: the hell can you not do that? Yes, two nights

2:52 Speaker 1: for crying out loud? Come on.

2:54 Speaker 3: Well when I when I say Jenny left, I mean

2:56 Speaker 3: she she left, She went home. She's not even in

2:58 Speaker 3: the building, so I can not call her back in.

3:01 Speaker 3: Uh but uh okay, so she's not even listening. She is,

3:05 Speaker 3: she's in uh uh, she's in blackout. She's in communicado

3:09 Speaker 3: UTCHA until the end of the program today.

3:11 Speaker 1: So yeah, no worries, Hey listen. Like I said, there

3:14 Speaker 1: wasn't there wasn't many spoilers. Uh. Royce Keys went ahead

3:18 Speaker 1: and run the Andre the Giant Battle Royld, which again

3:21 Speaker 1: there's no storyline form. They and the the brain trust

3:25 Speaker 1: in there and of course, brain trust is an oxymoron.

3:27 Speaker 1: Considering how things have gone recently, it's just been a

3:31 Speaker 1: downward spyle of for crying out loud and uh. But

3:35 Speaker 1: it's like the brain Trust didn't have anything creative except

3:38 Speaker 1: what a poor guy this guy was he grew up rough,

3:40 Speaker 1: which if that's true, that's great, but what does that

3:42 Speaker 1: have to do with anybody in the storyline. He did

3:46 Speaker 1: go ahead and eliminate Tomatonga from the MFT, so there

3:50 Speaker 1: may be something going on there. I mean, hopefully something

3:53 Speaker 1: can be created. But you know, Royce Keys, who used

3:56 Speaker 1: to be his powerhouse Hobbs and a w has just

4:00 Speaker 1: not been really featured a lot except for the past

4:03 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but against a lot of the backstory,

4:06 Speaker 1: lot of his personal story. So hopefully he does get

4:09 Speaker 1: a chance to go ahead and showcase what he can do.

4:12 Speaker 2: Well.

4:12 Speaker 3: I think it's good though, that I like that they're

4:17 Speaker 3: giving us a lot of his backstory. And I'll tell

4:19 Speaker 3: you why, because something that I have never really understood

4:23 Speaker 3: about professional wrestling is why they don't do more of

4:29 Speaker 3: that Because to me, and this is why I love that,

4:32 Speaker 3: you know, I feel like we live in an era

4:34 Speaker 3: where there's a lot more emphasis on character development than

4:36 Speaker 3: they used to be. But I've always felt that professional wrestlers,

4:39 Speaker 3: by their nature, because it is such a unique profession,

4:44 Speaker 3: that they tend to be very interesting people if you learn,

4:48 Speaker 3: like you know, you might have a wrestler who on television,

4:51 Speaker 3: they're their character and it's you know, they tend to

4:54 Speaker 3: they may be really one dimensional, or maybe they just

4:56 Speaker 3: aren't doing a lot with them, but then you see

4:58 Speaker 3: them or you listen to them in a an interview,

5:01 Speaker 3: in a shoot interview, so to speak, and you learn

5:04 Speaker 3: about them and you realize, this is a very interesting person.

5:07 Speaker 3: So I think that they kind of miss a lot

5:10 Speaker 3: of opportunities with a lot of their performers by not

5:13 Speaker 3: sharing their backstory. So I'm glad that they're doing that

5:16 Speaker 3: with Royce Keys.

5:18 Speaker 1: A lot of it, though, I think is caught up,

5:20 Speaker 1: especially with the ones that they are developing or not developing,

5:24 Speaker 1: but they're putting on the air about their backstory in

5:27 Speaker 1: social media and of course in the Netflix series Unreal,

5:32 Speaker 1: so a lot of them, they go ahead, they focus

5:35 Speaker 1: on one or two wrestlers each episode, and they go

5:38 Speaker 1: ahead and give a backstory about that. Like I like

5:40 Speaker 1: Tiffany Stratton's backstory. Actually, yeah, yes, so she was interesting.

5:45 Speaker 1: She's willing to do whatever it takes. However, it takes

5:47 Speaker 1: very humble girl to go ahead and actually make it

5:51 Speaker 1: as far as she is. But that's what you gotta do.

5:53 Speaker 1: It's like, you gotta pay your dues. A lot of

5:55 Speaker 1: people don't want to do that, and if they're not

5:58 Speaker 1: being I'll be honest, I don't think it's a lack

6:01 Speaker 1: of trying. But if WWE doesn't take the initiative to

6:06 Speaker 1: dive into these people's backstories, it may not be that great.

6:11 Speaker 1: You know, I know that I did dude going after

6:13 Speaker 1: Jacob Fatou's you know, jail history and his family and

6:17 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But also he's part of that Simoon dynasty,

6:21 Speaker 1: so it's like, of course it's gonna be interesting. It's

6:24 Speaker 1: interesting that he turned into the wrong way of the

6:27 Speaker 1: law but has now cleaned himself up, which is why

6:30 Speaker 1: he is where he is instead in the indies. Yeah,

6:32 Speaker 1: so it's it's so there is a lot of storytelling

6:36 Speaker 1: that's going on for some of these backstories. But again,

6:40 Speaker 1: it's very fascinating, and some of these people that are

6:43 Speaker 1: not being told stories it may not be as great.

6:47 Speaker 1: To put on TV. Maybe that's their decision.

6:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that. It's funny when you say that too.

6:54 Speaker 3: It makes me think about one of our main eventters

6:57 Speaker 3: at this year's WrestleMania, Randy Orton, who who they You know,

7:02 Speaker 3: there's some things in his past, in his backstory, I

7:05 Speaker 3: guess he you know, he was in the military and

7:07 Speaker 3: he went a wall at one point, and I remember

7:10 Speaker 3: Mick Foley. They did actually make that part of a

7:12 Speaker 3: storyline once when McK foley brought it up years and

7:16 Speaker 3: years ago when he was feuding with Randy Orton. But

7:18 Speaker 3: other than that, they don't ever talk about that.

7:22 Speaker 1: It's probably something that he declared he probably didn't want

7:25 Speaker 1: to dive deep into, right right. It's it's listen, when

7:29 Speaker 1: you go a wall, that's not something if you're part

7:31 Speaker 1: of the military, that's not something you really want to

7:33 Speaker 1: dive into. Like listen, it's dark, let me go ahead

7:38 Speaker 1: and get out of here, and those whole voices in

7:40 Speaker 1: his head soundtrack. It might be true. There might be

7:44 Speaker 1: something that triggers and PTSD and stuff like that, so

7:46 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you gotta be you gotta be

7:48 Speaker 1: careful and stuff like that, where you know, you don't

7:50 Speaker 1: want to. Yeah, yeah, you want to dive into the story.

7:52 Speaker 1: That would be great, but it's like, hey, listen, you

7:54 Speaker 1: okay with this? Then we bring this whole thing out

7:56 Speaker 1: on doing some promos with making everything maybe not. That's

8:00 Speaker 1: why when you saw see him Punk and Roman going

8:03 Speaker 1: at it and Punk said I'm gonna bury you next

8:05 Speaker 1: to your father, you know that was done that that

8:08 Speaker 1: that was unscripted. It was talked about beforehand. You're not

8:12 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and do that on a shoe because honestly,

8:15 Speaker 1: on a shoot you get but beat right. But the

8:19 Speaker 1: person it's like, okay, you're gonna shoot at me like that,

8:22 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm shooting you right now, and everything

8:25 Speaker 1: just goes Hey why so yeah, of course you want

8:27 Speaker 1: to go ahead and you know, talk behind the scenes

8:29 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, like can I bring this up?

8:31 Speaker 1: Can I bring that up?

8:32 Speaker 3: No?

8:32 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll leave off that. Some people like John Cena, dude,

8:36 Speaker 1: it's a promo. Whatever you want bring up everything, my

8:40 Speaker 1: nicky status, I don't care. He was. He was good

8:43 Speaker 1: with that, right right.

8:44 Speaker 3: It reminds me of a and they talk about this

8:48 Speaker 3: in the Wrestling with Shadows. The Brett Hart documentary where uh,

8:52 Speaker 3: you know, they were they were bringing up you know,

8:54 Speaker 3: he and Shawn Michaels were bringing up things, and and

8:57 Speaker 3: there was there may have been some miscommunication at one

8:59 Speaker 3: point about what was okay to talk about and what

9:01 Speaker 3: was not, Like like Brett Hart with his Sunny Day's comment,

9:04 Speaker 3: I'm sorry Sean Michael's with his Sunny Day's comment directed

9:07 Speaker 3: at Brett, you know, for example, which obviously caused Brett

9:09 Speaker 3: some problems at home. But but I have really enjoyed

9:15 Speaker 3: I'm curious your thoughts on those, because they've gotten mixed reviews.

9:18 Speaker 3: I think those promos between Roman Reigns and See I'm

9:22 Speaker 3: Punk have been outstanding. I really have enjoyed those quite

9:26 Speaker 3: a bit. And I much more enjoy those promos than

9:30 Speaker 3: I do. You know, the physicality when they start brawling

9:33 Speaker 3: with each other. I've always thought that stuff's kind of boring. Actually,

9:36 Speaker 3: you know a couple of guys brawling on the outside

9:38 Speaker 3: of the ring. But I love the promos.

9:40 Speaker 1: It gets boring when you see the two people brawling,

9:43 Speaker 1: like the Bronck and ob thing where you have like

9:45 Speaker 1: seventy five hundred people coming out to go ahead and

9:48 Speaker 1: they and thirty three thousand people couldn't hold one person

9:52 Speaker 1: down rightly. It's like, this is stupid. Just get it

9:55 Speaker 1: over it, Just just cut the let's go to the

9:58 Speaker 1: next thing. Yeah, it's because he gets boring because it's

10:01 Speaker 1: so predictable.

10:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But what do you think of those promos?

10:05 Speaker 3: So you like the promos, assume between Punk and Roman

10:08 Speaker 3: listen see him.

10:09 Speaker 1: Punk has always been a talko, always been a pipe bomber,

10:12 Speaker 1: and anytime he does a promo, it's gonna be magical,

10:16 Speaker 1: it's going to be gold.

10:17 Speaker 3: Yeah.

10:17 Speaker 1: Roman has recently, since he's become a tribal chief, has

10:21 Speaker 1: recently been doing the promos pretty well. You know, he's

10:25 Speaker 1: come a long waist since suffering suck attached. Okay, oh yeah,

10:28 Speaker 1: but he's come a long way. So yes, his his

10:32 Speaker 1: his his promos and his character have always been spot on.

10:38 Speaker 1: And I like that they took a jab at Old

10:42 Speaker 1: I like that, and I like how Sam Punk is

10:44 Speaker 1: persevered in that. Yes, because an old man dropping a

10:48 Speaker 1: tribal chief through an announced table says something, right. But yeah, yeah,

10:53 Speaker 1: these thi and some physicality is okay. Obviously when they

10:57 Speaker 1: come in with the security it's stupid. But yeah, uh,

11:00 Speaker 1: but these promos have been spot on gold. I loved

11:02 Speaker 1: every especially when Seampunk is ran on. Pat McAfee. That's

11:06 Speaker 1: another that that listen. I like Pat. I like his show. Yeah,

11:11 Speaker 1: I like his commentary. I was kind of derailed on

11:16 Speaker 1: the show that I'm on the Josh Sodiac podcast by

11:19 Speaker 1: him and his brother like saying, well, he's just he's

11:22 Speaker 1: just a a face announcer, and you can't have two

11:26 Speaker 1: face announcers, and it just gets it's it's very stale.

11:31 Speaker 1: And I kind of listened to what Corey Graves and

11:33 Speaker 1: you know Corey Graves and Wade Barrett, you know they're there.

11:35 Speaker 1: They're the heel announcers.

11:37 Speaker 3: Really though, well sort of they do that. They're they're

11:41 Speaker 3: tweeener announcers, which is really I mean, you know, when

11:44 Speaker 3: was the last time we had an actual heel announcer,

11:45 Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

11:46 Speaker 1: But the they portray it like they'll they'll go ahead

11:49 Speaker 1: and disagree with testatory or sure, sure and that, and

11:53 Speaker 1: that's what it was. McAfee was just always agreeing with

11:56 Speaker 1: Cole because you know, they were bud buds.

11:58 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, total babyface.

11:59 Speaker 1: Yes, it did get stale to the point where it's like, yeah,

12:02 Speaker 1: I'm listening to Corey Graves kind of you know, rattled

12:05 Speaker 1: the cage of Michael Cole and Wade Barrett kind of

12:07 Speaker 1: like you know, giving Joe test satory of the business. Yeah, yeah,

12:10 Speaker 1: that makes it more interesting actually when you think about it. So,

12:14 Speaker 1: but yeah, McAfee, I think is a good guy and

12:16 Speaker 1: him turn to heel. I think this is probably one

12:18 Speaker 1: of these things that listens as a as a huge

12:20 Speaker 1: fan and finally getting the shot at, you know, living

12:23 Speaker 1: your dream. I think it's always been a thing for

12:25 Speaker 1: him to be a heel. I don't like his heel though,

12:28 Speaker 1: I think it is it's coming across kind of kind

12:32 Speaker 1: of boring, to be honest with you. I do like

12:35 Speaker 1: he has some truth that comes out, which Seampunk also

12:38 Speaker 1: admits is that tk O prices are just outrageous. So

12:44 Speaker 1: he's not really a full heel of be honest with you.

12:46 Speaker 1: He's you know, helping Randy. He's but he's also speaking truth.

12:50 Speaker 1: So when you're a heel, you kind of stretch the

12:54 Speaker 1: truth to your benefit, but this truth, you can't stretch

12:58 Speaker 1: to anybody's benefit. This is just this is just truth. Truth. Well,

13:02 Speaker 1: Randy saved the business. I don't. I think that's the

13:04 Speaker 1: far fetched thing. It's like, I think, don't don't think

13:06 Speaker 1: the business needs to be saved, right, I think it's

13:10 Speaker 1: it's fine where I think it's it's great where it is. Yeah,

13:14 Speaker 1: he needs to handle their their business better to make

13:17 Speaker 1: it more affordable for families. And that's where they get

13:20 Speaker 1: out of there. They're getting price, they're pricing out everybody.

13:23 Speaker 1: That's the that's the main thing. But I think other

13:25 Speaker 1: than that, I think McAfee's heel characters is kind of dulled,

13:29 Speaker 1: to be honest with you.

13:30 Speaker 3: So here's what I think. I like him as a heel.

13:32 Speaker 3: I think though. The problem is so the last promo

13:37 Speaker 3: that he cut, when he you know, came out and

13:40 Speaker 3: did his thing without without Randy being there, I just thought,

13:47 Speaker 3: like when he shows up and he's backstage and he's

13:50 Speaker 3: interacting with Nick Alldis, for example, wait was it? Yeah?

13:54 Speaker 1: That was it was yeah, which, by the way, I

13:57 Speaker 1: found funny. He's like, well, Nick, mister Adam Pierce or

14:02 Speaker 1: whatever that oh yeah, yeah, yeah what did he yeah

14:07 Speaker 1: whatever it was. But he's like, you know, I'm not

14:08 Speaker 1: going to sign this. I like to read through my contract.

14:11 Speaker 1: I'll do it later and then like two minutes afterwards,

14:13 Speaker 1: when Randy's about to go to the station, she signs

14:15 Speaker 1: the contract. That's that was kind of dumb. Why did

14:19 Speaker 1: you have to say that? But anyway, but I liked.

14:22 Speaker 3: I liked his interaction backstage with all.

14:24 Speaker 2: I like him.

14:25 Speaker 3: I like him as a heel. I think he's a

14:27 Speaker 3: good heel. I think the problem is he you know,

14:31 Speaker 3: he's not getting heat well because it's not making it.

14:34 Speaker 3: This is not making a lot of sense.

14:36 Speaker 1: And right, that's what I'm saying, Like it's a really

14:39 Speaker 1: bad job at the hell. I think he could be

14:41 Speaker 1: a great heel.

14:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too.

14:44 Speaker 1: I think creatively, they got to come up with something better.

14:48 Speaker 3: Yeah.

14:49 Speaker 1: Over, it's too late now, I mean, unless it is

14:52 Speaker 1: Brandyworton loses and then he's done with w W which okay,

14:57 Speaker 1: about that, there is a mild rumor saying that Orton

15:00 Speaker 1: is playing on an injury.

15:03 Speaker 3: Okay, you have to write the script. Go ahead about that.

15:06 Speaker 3: Because this came up on Tough Bumps, you know, the

15:08 Speaker 3: podcast that that I do with Eric Pilcher and Austin Hicks,

15:13 Speaker 3: because they were I think it was Eric who was saying, well,

15:16 Speaker 3: they they kind of already they kind of already gave

15:19 Speaker 3: away the ending. Obviously, Orton has to win if McAfee

15:21 Speaker 3: is saying he's done with wrestling forever if Orton loses.

15:24 Speaker 3: But my counter argument to that is, no, it doesn't matter.

15:27 Speaker 3: Or McAfee's a heel and heels lie, it doesn't matter

15:31 Speaker 3: that he said if Orton loses, he's done forever. It

15:34 Speaker 3: doesn't that. That's that's irrelevant. Now if he were a

15:37 Speaker 3: baby face, then then it would hold more weight. But

15:39 Speaker 3: McAfee can say whatever he wants.

15:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's a heel. I don't know a

15:44 Speaker 1: lot of heels, a lot of everybody. When they say

15:47 Speaker 1: something and it goes against them, it usually holds true.

15:52 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I don't really see that.

15:54 Speaker 1: There was one time somebody said they're leaving the business

15:57 Speaker 1: and it happened, and they ever came back unless for

16:00 Speaker 1: a while.

16:01 Speaker 3: Well yeah, but but long term all I mean, First,

16:04 Speaker 3: I mean, how many how many retirement matches have we

16:06 Speaker 3: seen that turned out not to be retirement matches?

16:09 Speaker 1: Well granted, yes, but those are retirement matches. Those are

16:13 Speaker 1: not like I quit or I'm done with if I lose,

16:17 Speaker 1: Like yeah, that's retirement matches more like ceremonial matches. You're done,

16:23 Speaker 1: regardless of you want to lose. This is a stipulation.

16:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, but even a stipulation, I mean even even if

16:30 Speaker 3: it's even if it's a stipulation, it's it often.

16:34 Speaker 1: Put this way, you think Johnson, when John Ceen is

16:37 Speaker 1: wrestling his retirement match against Gunther, If he won, do

16:40 Speaker 1: you think we see him next week on Raw? No,

16:42 Speaker 1: he's done this retirement match.

16:45 Speaker 3: That's different. That's different though the Sina will never come back.

16:48 Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's done.

16:50 Speaker 1: He's hosting WrestleMania, but he's not gonna wrestle I don't

16:53 Speaker 1: think he's gonna.

16:54 Speaker 3: No, he's not.

16:55 Speaker 1: He may give somebody an f you or something, but

16:57 Speaker 1: that's about it.

16:58 Speaker 3: I think he's You're right right, I think he's definitely done.

17:01 Speaker 3: And by the way, that phenomenon, I mean that transcends

17:03 Speaker 3: professional wrestling. I mean, how many how many bands do

17:05 Speaker 3: a farewell tour, a retirement tour, and then they you know,

17:08 Speaker 3: they come.

17:09 Speaker 1: Back because they run out of money. What's that ul

17:13 Speaker 1: They come back because they run out of money.

17:14 Speaker 3: Right, exactly exactly. So yeah, so I don't put much

17:19 Speaker 3: stock In what McAfee said. But but but it has

17:23 Speaker 3: really kind of messed up that storyline by the way.

17:25 Speaker 3: So this is something too where I think Eric and

17:27 Speaker 3: Austin disagreed with me, but I said, or at least

17:30 Speaker 3: Eric did, I said. I really would have liked to

17:33 Speaker 3: have seen at least one face to face promo between

17:39 Speaker 3: Randy Orton and Cody Rhoads, similar to the promos that

17:42 Speaker 3: we've seen consistently between c M Punk and Roman Reigns.

17:46 Speaker 3: I think a face to face between Orton and uh

17:49 Speaker 3: and and Cody would would be really interesting and would

17:52 Speaker 3: do so much more to build that story. But we

17:56 Speaker 3: never got it and it's too late now. I know

17:58 Speaker 3: it didn't happen last night. I did kind of take

18:00 Speaker 3: a peek at spoilers, I know, because I don't mind.

18:03 Speaker 3: I know it didn't happen last night, So I mean,

18:06 Speaker 3: why don't do that?

18:07 Speaker 1: But let me ask you, Matt, what what would you

18:09 Speaker 1: expect have somebody who basically turned on a friend, who

18:14 Speaker 1: basically went ahead and beat them down so bad. What

18:17 Speaker 1: would if if that face to face were to happen.

18:20 Speaker 1: What would your outcome be like if you were doing

18:23 Speaker 1: if you were in creative, and you're like, Okay, Randy

18:25 Speaker 1: and Cody, you're gonna come out, You're gonna do a

18:27 Speaker 1: one on one face to face contract saying whatever, what

18:31 Speaker 1: would the outcome be? Like, it can't be good. You

18:34 Speaker 1: basically betrayed a friend. The friend fields betrayed wants to

18:38 Speaker 1: beat your behind. The other one is basically evil and

18:42 Speaker 1: listening the voices that well, they're both listening to the

18:44 Speaker 1: voices apparently now, so I see your point interesting, But

18:52 Speaker 1: I think the way they went about it is just

18:54 Speaker 1: it is just fine with me because I wouldn't want

18:56 Speaker 1: to see face to face to my friend unless I'm

18:58 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and go to battle, right. I mean,

19:01 Speaker 1: it's it's really you're you're basically egging them on to fight.

19:07 Speaker 1: Nothing really to say, because it's like, you know, there's

19:10 Speaker 1: the why. Well, the why has already been done. Well,

19:13 Speaker 1: Cody gave me permission to go ahead and be Randy Orton,

19:17 Speaker 1: and he took it a step further. I don't need

19:19 Speaker 1: permission from Cody to be Randy Orton. This is on

19:22 Speaker 1: the Friday, by the way, I don't need permission for that.

19:27 Speaker 1: And then it's like, you know, he gets off stage Cody.

19:29 Speaker 1: It comes out later in the show, which, by the way,

19:32 Speaker 1: see him punk also joins him. So it's like, and

19:35 Speaker 1: I love that, and you'll see this later Towards the

19:37 Speaker 1: end of the show. Cody's like saying, uh, and feel

19:40 Speaker 1: free to hit the dump button on this one. Cody

19:43 Speaker 1: goes ahead and says, listen, if we shook hands and

19:47 Speaker 1: hugged right now, you're not gonna turn on me and

19:49 Speaker 1: kick me in the like everybody does. It's kind of smirked.

19:56 Speaker 1: It's like, there's a lot of people that deserve to

19:58 Speaker 1: be kicked, You're not one of them.

20:00 Speaker 3: Yeah.

20:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of found that funny. And then the

20:04 Speaker 1: crowd found it funny too. Yeah. Actually the crowd said, yes,

20:08 Speaker 1: I think they're turning on Cody'd be with you.

20:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, they see it. Well, they're they're their loyalties are split.

20:14 Speaker 3: I mean that's the other challenge with Randy Orton as

20:16 Speaker 3: a heel. And I knew this was going to happen.

20:19 Speaker 3: I don't know if they did. Maybe they should have,

20:21 Speaker 3: but you know, Randy Orton at at forty five years

20:26 Speaker 3: old at this point in his career, Uh, they really

20:28 Speaker 3: don't want to boo him, you know. I mean, no

20:31 Speaker 3: matter what he does, no matter how evil he is,

20:34 Speaker 3: they don't want to boo him. It reminds me of

20:36 Speaker 3: when the very last time that yeah, well, oh yeah,

20:41 Speaker 3: that that's a great example. But also going going back

20:45 Speaker 3: significantly further the last time, and this does go back

20:50 Speaker 3: quite a way, but the last time that the Undertaker

20:52 Speaker 3: was ever a heel, you know, and it was he

20:55 Speaker 3: was still doing his American badass immick and stuff at

20:57 Speaker 3: that point. But the last time he was a heel.

20:59 Speaker 3: I just remember at that time, and again this was

21:02 Speaker 3: years ago, this was like maybe fifteen years ago. I

21:04 Speaker 3: remember thinking, ah, did they really want to boo Undertaker

21:07 Speaker 3: at this point in his career and he really did

21:09 Speaker 3: kind of struggle to get over as a heel at

21:10 Speaker 3: that point a little bit, I thought they didn't want

21:12 Speaker 3: to boo him. So, you know, there's a segment, there's

21:14 Speaker 3: a large segment of the fan base, maybe most of

21:16 Speaker 3: the fan base, that does not want to boo Randy Orton.

21:19 Speaker 3: And I think what will be particularly interesting is the

21:23 Speaker 3: crowd reaction to because they're going tonight, They're the main

21:29 Speaker 3: event tonight, and I won Randy Orton versus Cody Rhoads's

21:33 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a very split crowd,

21:34 Speaker 3: and it might even be a pro Randy Orton crowd

21:37 Speaker 3: at this point, I.

21:39 Speaker 1: Think so, I think it is. I think also in

21:42 Speaker 1: the point that you're making that he's having trouble getting over,

21:44 Speaker 1: I think that's why Pat was coming in to go

21:46 Speaker 1: ahead and get more heat on Randy. But it just

21:48 Speaker 1: hasn't happened. It hasn't worked right.

21:51 Speaker 3: Well, whatever heat there is, it's on Pat, it's not

21:53 Speaker 3: on Randy. It doesn't transfer right right.

21:57 Speaker 1: So, Yeah, when I'm watching tonight and I'm watching the wrestleman,

22:00 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna hear, you know, when they go back

22:03 Speaker 1: and forth with punches, which they'll eventually do. I'm sure.

22:06 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's going to be a very very mixed

22:08 Speaker 1: reaction on both ends. Yeah, but I think it's going

22:12 Speaker 1: to be more booze on Cody because I think I

22:16 Speaker 1: think we're done with Cody. I think we're done with

22:21 Speaker 1: WW trying to force Cody down because I think it

22:23 Speaker 1: was a horrible, horrible decision to have Drew drop the belt.

22:30 Speaker 3: Really you think so.

22:32 Speaker 1: Oh it was horrible because I think Drew number one,

22:37 Speaker 1: you basically are again dump button you're basically screwing Drew.

22:44 Speaker 1: He's been he's been doing what he needs to do.

22:47 Speaker 1: He's been a good employee. Oh yeah, and then you're

22:51 Speaker 1: basically screwing him a possible main event at WrestleMania. Last

22:54 Speaker 1: time he made an event at WrestleMania was when nobody

22:57 Speaker 1: was in attendance, right, I mean, it's it's it's it

23:00 Speaker 1: was horrible.

23:01 Speaker 3: He's still got a high he's got a high profile

23:03 Speaker 3: match though against Jacob Pla too.

23:05 Speaker 1: I mean, he's it doesn't matter though, that's listen, at

23:08 Speaker 1: the very least having a triple threat with Jacob. I

23:11 Speaker 1: think Jacobs earned the right to lease get in, get

23:14 Speaker 1: in some type of title, maybe not world title, but

23:16 Speaker 1: or ww title.

23:17 Speaker 3: But still yeah, like he'll get there.

23:20 Speaker 1: The Drew McIntyre thing, I think it was just a

23:23 Speaker 1: horrible idea. It's like, why are we giving it back

23:26 Speaker 1: to somebody that's gonna go We know he's going to

23:28 Speaker 1: shoot movies. We know he's not gonna win. And if he,

23:31 Speaker 1: if if Randy does win and there is a legitimate

23:34 Speaker 1: injury going on, they're gonna play him like they do Jae.

23:37 Speaker 1: They're gonna go like three months with him not defending

23:39 Speaker 1: the title, and it's it's just, it's just, it's just

23:44 Speaker 1: it's a mess. Drew should have been the one to

23:47 Speaker 1: come in there and face Randy and walk away with

23:50 Speaker 1: the title still strong. They made him look weak.

23:53 Speaker 3: See I think to me, Cody Roads versus Randy Yorton

23:56 Speaker 3: is more interesting, is more compelling because of their their

24:00 Speaker 3: at history. But again, that takes me back to my

24:02 Speaker 3: other point, Like I was saying earlier, I don't think

24:04 Speaker 3: they've done enough about that. You know, they haven't talked

24:06 Speaker 3: enough about legacy, the the stable that they were in together.

24:09 Speaker 3: They haven't. They just they've They've they've left a lot

24:13 Speaker 3: on the table, which the opposite, the opposite of what

24:17 Speaker 3: they've done with seampunkin and Roman Reigns with with those two,

24:20 Speaker 3: they put it all on the table.

24:21 Speaker 1: But I feel like they've just let me correct on

24:24 Speaker 1: that one. Legacy, those triple H Batista.

24:27 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, not like not legacy. Uh wait what

24:30 Speaker 3: am I thinking of?

24:32 Speaker 1: I think you're thinking when they were they may have

24:34 Speaker 1: been attack team when they were up and coming.

24:35 Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah.

24:40 Speaker 3: But but the point being, there's a lot. There's a

24:42 Speaker 3: lot there and they've just left a lot on the table.

24:45 Speaker 3: And I don't understand why.

24:48 Speaker 1: You're not going to go ahead and talk talk about

24:51 Speaker 1: their legacy or their history, especially if it comes down

24:56 Speaker 1: to a friend turning on each other. I mean, it's

25:01 Speaker 1: it's just not I mean, there's no real purpose for that.

25:04 Speaker 1: I mean it's been brought up that. Yeah, there's a

25:06 Speaker 1: lot of history between them too, but it's been talking,

25:10 Speaker 1: it's been talked about separately, but there's not really Again,

25:13 Speaker 1: like I said, there's no win win in that type

25:15 Speaker 1: of promo. You have a guy that's bent on destruction

25:19 Speaker 1: of hurting people, punting their heads for that matter. Yeah,

25:22 Speaker 1: versus somebody who is the defender who needs to go

25:28 Speaker 1: ahead and avenge himself for what was done to him.

25:32 Speaker 1: You're not gonna talk. That's there's no talk.

25:35 Speaker 3: I understand. I understand your point.

25:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no talk.

25:39 Speaker 3: Uh. That's basically what Eric said too. Here's here's the

25:42 Speaker 3: other thing though, I think they did the Orton turn.

25:45 Speaker 3: See they could have done it. If they hadn't done

25:46 Speaker 3: the Orton turn almost immediately, they could have held that

25:50 Speaker 3: off a little bit. Let that tension build, do that promo,

25:54 Speaker 3: do that promo, establish that tension and that promo, you know,

25:58 Speaker 3: in that promo, you know, maybe Cody says the thing

26:02 Speaker 3: about you know, you gotta listen to the voices in

26:04 Speaker 3: your head. I want you to be the viper and

26:06 Speaker 3: all that. And then the next week that's when the

26:09 Speaker 3: turn happens. But they could have so they could have

26:11 Speaker 3: gotten that promo in, or they could have taken that

26:14 Speaker 3: the contract signing and use that as an opportunity to

26:17 Speaker 3: dig deeper, you know, because there was that there was

26:20 Speaker 3: the contract signing that they did, and I guess there

26:22 Speaker 3: was a little bit of that, but but they could

26:24 Speaker 3: have done a lot more with it. I think they

26:25 Speaker 3: did the turn too early.

26:28 Speaker 1: I yeah, I think they could have. They could have waited, Yeah,

26:32 Speaker 1: I think. I don't think there would have been much difference.

26:36 Speaker 1: I think doing the turn at the contract signing is

26:40 Speaker 1: the only way tables are going to be broken, because

26:42 Speaker 1: if you go ahead to shake his friends and walk out,

26:44 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna boo, you like, what this is not a

26:47 Speaker 1: contract signing. Contract signing has pen paper and splintered wood.

26:51 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, but there's not gonna be any splinted

26:57 Speaker 1: wood if we just shake hands and part of his friends.

27:00 Speaker 3: But but it wouldn't have to be that. It wouldn't

27:01 Speaker 3: have to be shake hands in part as front and

27:03 Speaker 3: and and part as friends. But you could have still

27:06 Speaker 3: done that with maybe maybe it looks like, you know,

27:08 Speaker 3: maybe it looks like Orton's going for the r K O,

27:11 Speaker 3: but but then he doesn't quite hit it or something.

27:13 Speaker 3: I mean, you could have done things to really build

27:15 Speaker 3: that tension.

27:16 Speaker 1: You know, there needs to be broken table. I mean,

27:20 Speaker 1: how else make their money?

27:22 Speaker 3: Well, that's true, you have to break that slim gym table.

27:25 Speaker 3: You gotta snap, you gotta snap into that table.

27:27 Speaker 1: I guess it's crazy all that money that they're making

27:32 Speaker 1: and they're still pricing people out.

27:34 Speaker 3: So what do you think about I I kind of

27:36 Speaker 3: get the impression that you're going to agree with me

27:38 Speaker 3: on this, but but I'm curious because you know, you

27:42 Speaker 3: reference all the money that they're making, and financially speaking,

27:45 Speaker 3: professional wrestling has never been healthier than than it is

27:49 Speaker 3: right now. I mean, they're they're making so much money,

27:52 Speaker 3: and so in that sense, it's more successful and it's

27:54 Speaker 3: ever been, even if it doesn't occupy the same space

27:57 Speaker 3: and popular culture that it did. You know, during the

28:00 Speaker 3: eighties during Hulkeamania, or during the nineties Attitude era, into

28:03 Speaker 3: the very early two thousands, et cetera. But it's but

28:07 Speaker 3: financially they're doing fantastic. But there are all these naysayers

28:11 Speaker 3: and doomsayers because of the situation where ticket sales for

28:15 Speaker 3: WrestleMania are softer this year than they were last year.

28:18 Speaker 3: But I think that is a lot a lot of

28:21 Speaker 3: that is owed to they You know, they took a

28:24 Speaker 3: gamble and nopeund necessarily intended, although it's very appropriate. They

28:29 Speaker 3: took a gamble running the same city, in this case

28:33 Speaker 3: Las Vegas two years in a row, and I think

28:36 Speaker 3: that has hurt them as far as ticket sales this year.

28:39 Speaker 1: Well, here's the take on that one. You know how

28:41 Speaker 1: they're running their model for place in WrestleMania now, right,

28:46 Speaker 1: highest bidder, Yes, obviously nobody's really wanted to play the

28:51 Speaker 1: bidding game, and Vegas came in top again. Yeah, why

28:54 Speaker 1: do you think it's going to Saudi Arabia?

28:56 Speaker 3: But the thing is, though they already had New Orleans

28:59 Speaker 3: locked in so much so much so and I don't

29:02 Speaker 3: remember this ever happening before, so much so they did

29:04 Speaker 3: the press conference, they had the announcement, they had the

29:06 Speaker 3: Rock come out and do the announcement WrestleMania New Orleans,

29:10 Speaker 3: and then within what a few weeks maybe a month,

29:14 Speaker 3: they pulled the plug on New Orleans and recommitted to

29:17 Speaker 3: Las Vegas. I mean, that was weird. I've never seen

29:20 Speaker 3: that before.

29:21 Speaker 1: What are their checks bounced? I mean, what are you

29:23 Speaker 1: gonna do? It's it's really it's not about let's go

29:28 Speaker 1: ahead and diversify WrestleMania. Yeah, let's not. Let's go ahead

29:34 Speaker 1: and you know, place it in a new city. It's

29:36 Speaker 1: never been there before. It's not about that anymore. It's

29:39 Speaker 1: not it's about money. Well yeah, and that's the big

29:42 Speaker 1: problem to you. You know, it's money. Now. I get you.

29:46 Speaker 1: You're gonna pay you know, you're you're you're paying these

29:49 Speaker 1: wrestlers about the same that you were, not less because

29:52 Speaker 1: they've actually cut salaries. But how much money do you need?

29:57 Speaker 1: How big are your pockets? I mean they're more pockets,

30:00 Speaker 1: It's done pants by this point. How big are your pockets?

30:04 Speaker 1: Come on?

30:05 Speaker 3: Man?

30:05 Speaker 1: I mean by the amount of money that you are generating,

30:09 Speaker 1: you should be giving these tickets away, the floor seats,

30:13 Speaker 1: giving them away and they're not doing it, doing this

30:17 Speaker 1: twenty five percent off ram truck event whatever. That was. Yeah,

30:21 Speaker 1: what's twenty five percent off a five thousand dollar ticket?

30:24 Speaker 1: A thousand bucks?

30:25 Speaker 3: Yeah?

30:26 Speaker 1: Oh great, I get to sit in the nosebleed section

30:28 Speaker 1: for not five thousand, but four thousand. Yeah that was.

30:34 Speaker 3: That was super awkward too, because then they have Pat

30:36 Speaker 3: McAfee making that announcement. So here's a heel, he's supposed

30:40 Speaker 3: to be a heal. He's coming out telling it almost

30:43 Speaker 3: came off like they were mocking people for not for

30:46 Speaker 3: being too poor to go to WrestleMania or something. It

30:49 Speaker 3: was really that whole part of that too. That was

30:51 Speaker 3: very strange. That was very strangely handled.

30:54 Speaker 1: I like how, I like how mcfee's going hend soud,

30:56 Speaker 1: I'm gonna save you dirt bag some money or whatever

31:00 Speaker 1: names he's calling them. Yeah, you don't deserve it. But

31:03 Speaker 1: here's twenty five percent of go book wrestling. And it's

31:06 Speaker 1: not even just from now till WrestleMania. It's now till

31:09 Speaker 1: the end of Raw.

31:10 Speaker 3: Like it so bizarre.

31:13 Speaker 1: There's a time limit on this thing now? Is that

31:16 Speaker 1: eleven pm? Eastern time? And the Raw? I guess, yeah,

31:20 Speaker 1: you know it's on Netflix. What if they do a

31:22 Speaker 1: short show because they don't do three hour shows on Netflix.

31:25 Speaker 1: Right two, it's two hours fifteen minutes, two hours thirty

31:29 Speaker 1: How do we know? Well, hopefully it's not. Hopefully there's

31:32 Speaker 1: some extra time on raw so that can go to

31:35 Speaker 1: the anio website and put my ticket in.

31:38 Speaker 3: It's so strange. The whole thing was so bizarre, the

31:42 Speaker 3: way they handled that.

31:43 Speaker 1: It wasn't. I think McFee should be cursed, if you

31:47 Speaker 1: know what I mean.

31:47 Speaker 3: Oh oh, oh oh.

31:49 Speaker 1: I think McAfee needs to be cursed. So, yes, since

31:54 Speaker 1: we last talked that mystery person in the crate, I'll

31:58 Speaker 1: have to I'll have to admit I was surprised that

32:01 Speaker 1: it was him. Yeah, not surprised it wasn't Jericho because

32:05 Speaker 1: obviously have his contract dispute. Yeah, I would admit. Has

32:09 Speaker 1: it been a pleasant surprise that I am a dann

32:12 Speaker 1: Housen fan? Now?

32:13 Speaker 3: Oh, I think that's the general feeling. Yeah, Jenny and

32:16 Speaker 3: I love him.

32:17 Speaker 1: He's been amazing. And I'm talking about like there was

32:22 Speaker 1: like a pin drop when he came out. I mean,

32:24 Speaker 1: I do those There was an applause like yay Dan,

32:26 Speaker 1: like the people that knew him. Yeah, but like I'm like,

32:30 Speaker 1: what a creep? What a what is this dudeist like

32:35 Speaker 1: going on? And then I'm seeing him on his social medium,

32:38 Speaker 1: I'm seeing him do backstage and impressions. Just the first

32:42 Speaker 1: one with Adam Pierce with his note being dropped in

32:44 Speaker 1: the toilet. Oh yeah, it's okay, I get that. And

32:49 Speaker 1: it's like ever since then, it's like, yes, this is

32:52 Speaker 1: the contract relief I've been waiting for.

32:54 Speaker 3: And apparently his merch sales are huge.

32:57 Speaker 1: He's not. I think he's the number one merch guy

32:59 Speaker 1: right now.

33:00 Speaker 3: It wouldn't surprise me.

33:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's not. If not he's number one,

33:04 Speaker 1: he's very close. He's definitely top three.

33:06 Speaker 3: Yeah.

33:07 Speaker 1: But yeah, I've been a huge as you can tell

33:10 Speaker 1: on my title here, I'm now going by Charles Housen.

33:14 Speaker 1: So it's it's uh, it's basically, don't cross me, I

33:18 Speaker 1: will curse you.

33:19 Speaker 3: So I have one worry with Dan Housen. I'm worried.

33:22 Speaker 3: I'm worried he's gonna get overexposed. They're going to overexpose.

33:25 Speaker 1: Him maybe, but you know what, you can't overexpose somebody

33:29 Speaker 1: that doesn't do anything in the ring. I mean, besides

33:31 Speaker 1: that one appearance that he came out, I don't think

33:34 Speaker 1: it's overexposure. It's very short, five minute clips. He's on

33:37 Speaker 1: social media, which is blowing up, and of course he's

33:39 Speaker 1: he's hey, listen, when you hand out free T shirts

33:42 Speaker 1: in the middle of commercial breaks, that's not a bad thing, right,

33:47 Speaker 1: that's not a bad thing. Go ahead and give me

33:48 Speaker 1: free T shirts. But I don't have to get cursed.

33:52 Speaker 1: I enjoy it. Yeah. I really hope you see him

33:55 Speaker 1: at Wrestlemanium. I know he's not scheduled for a match

33:57 Speaker 1: or anything like that.

33:58 Speaker 3: Oh, they'll find something for him to do.

34:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's that. That's that's him.

34:04 Speaker 1: He's gonna be that goofy character that's just gonna annoy

34:07 Speaker 1: a lot of wrestlers and it's gonna be fun.

34:09 Speaker 3: Yeah.

34:10 Speaker 1: The only person he hasn't annoyed right now is our truth,

34:13 Speaker 1: which he him, and our truth I think should do

34:16 Speaker 1: attack him.

34:17 Speaker 3: Honestly, they probably gonna happen Truth thousand or something.

34:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, honestly, our truth just is Oh man

34:25 Speaker 1: Damien Priest's facial expressions right now.

34:27 Speaker 3: Oh that's what That's what Jenny always says too. She

34:30 Speaker 3: she always points that out that it always looks like

34:32 Speaker 3: Damian Priest is trying not to laugh.

34:35 Speaker 1: I mean, he's doing a good job. He's not laughing,

34:37 Speaker 1: but you know he's he's doing it as like a

34:40 Speaker 1: what the heck are you talking about type attitude.

34:43 Speaker 3: But yeah, and I like the way too, they build

34:45 Speaker 3: that on when you know, when when Damian Priest was

34:49 Speaker 3: still in Judgment Day and our Truth was trying to

34:51 Speaker 3: be in Judgment Day, and and and Damian Priest was

34:54 Speaker 3: always the one person in the group who kind of

34:56 Speaker 3: had a soft spot for Truth, even though Priest was

34:58 Speaker 3: still technically a heel. You know, you could tell that.

35:01 Speaker 3: I always appreciated the subtlety and the nuance of that

35:04 Speaker 3: where you could tell he kind of liked Truth. He

35:06 Speaker 3: was trying not to like him, but he did kind

35:08 Speaker 3: of like him. And I like how they sort of

35:09 Speaker 3: built on that with this new this new chapter with

35:13 Speaker 3: them as tag team champions. I'm really enjoying that.

35:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of makes me a little bit disappointed

35:18 Speaker 1: that they don't have a tag team championship match at WrestleMania. Uh,

35:22 Speaker 1: it's disappointing where these two aren't going to be on there.

35:26 Speaker 1: You don't have did did There's just not you know,

35:31 Speaker 1: like EO Sky, How can you not have a match

35:33 Speaker 1: for her? And where is Bianca? What is going on

35:36 Speaker 1: with Bianca?

35:37 Speaker 3: Well, she's been she's injured, right.

35:39 Speaker 1: Oh, she's not injured. She's came back. So they they

35:44 Speaker 1: just haven't had anything for him.

35:45 Speaker 3: Well her and the street profits too, so her husband

35:48 Speaker 3: has also been on the sidelines Montese for And I

35:50 Speaker 3: don't think there's any injury there.

35:53 Speaker 1: Ye, maybe you might be right. Yeah, shereet parfits that.

35:56 Speaker 1: I have been kind of very quiet. One thing. I

35:59 Speaker 1: will go ahead, let's let's let's talk about this one here,

36:01 Speaker 1: the the gunta not excuse me, the Sammy's Ain Trick Williams. Yes,

36:08 Speaker 1: number one, another bad move deserved? Oh yeah, and Sammy

36:15 Speaker 1: getting this much heat with Trick, who is also technically

36:20 Speaker 1: a heel. It's it doesn't make sense. You know, Melo

36:25 Speaker 1: should have came up Melos and Trick should be in

36:27 Speaker 1: this match. That's that. That's another bad move. I see,

36:31 Speaker 1: w W what are your thoughts on that?

36:33 Speaker 3: I so I am intrigued with what they're doing with

36:37 Speaker 3: Sammy Zain, who I think is basically becoming a heel,

36:42 Speaker 3: and I this is something we disagreed about on Tough Bumps, Uh,

36:46 Speaker 3: Eric and I think Eric and Austin both would prefer

36:48 Speaker 3: Sammy z Ain as a babyface. But I actually I

36:51 Speaker 3: think he's more interesting as a heel, to be honest,

36:53 Speaker 3: and I think he's more entertaining as a heel. And

36:56 Speaker 3: I I like what they've been doing with him, Trick

36:59 Speaker 3: william I think as a tweeter, I mean, he's he

37:03 Speaker 3: basically acts like a heel, but there's nothing like, what

37:07 Speaker 3: can that guy ever do that's going to actually get

37:10 Speaker 3: him booed. I mean his music hits and there and

37:14 Speaker 3: everybody goes nuts and they're chanting, whoop that Trick And

37:19 Speaker 3: you know, I mean he's like, he's kind of like

37:22 Speaker 3: the Rock. And this is not an original idea. I've

37:24 Speaker 3: seen other people make this comparison. He's kind of like

37:27 Speaker 3: the Rock when the Rock was a heel, but people

37:30 Speaker 3: loved him, you know, and during the Attitude era, even

37:33 Speaker 3: when he was a heel, you could because you couldn't

37:35 Speaker 3: help it. You couldn't help but like him. And that's

37:38 Speaker 3: what Trick Williams is. He's, yeah, he's supposed to be

37:41 Speaker 3: a heel. But you cannot help but like him. It's

37:45 Speaker 3: impossible not to like him.

37:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's really You're right, It is really

37:52 Speaker 1: really difficult to do that. And yeah, I think they're

37:54 Speaker 1: they're trying to put Samy's I think Sammy sen is

37:56 Speaker 1: actually being forced into a heel role. Yeah, because of

38:01 Speaker 1: how they how they did this, because he basically screwed

38:06 Speaker 1: He basically screwed Carmelo or eccually me he didn't screw Carmelo,

38:10 Speaker 1: but you know, just having the match, Uh, Carmelo won

38:14 Speaker 1: fair and square, right, and like, you know, he should

38:17 Speaker 1: be the one to go to WrestleMania to face Trick

38:19 Speaker 1: and Sammy you know kind of weaseled his way in there,

38:22 Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, it's but you know, it is

38:26 Speaker 1: what it is. I don't I kind of like to

38:27 Speaker 1: see how it plays out. But Mellow should have been

38:30 Speaker 1: somewhere in there, even a triple to that.

38:32 Speaker 3: No, No, I agree. I think Carmelo Hayes is incredible

38:35 Speaker 3: and uh and I really like, you know, I thought

38:37 Speaker 3: it was a I thought it was a good heel,

38:38 Speaker 3: but I really I've enjoyed him more as a babyface.

38:41 Speaker 3: I think he's kind of a natural babyface and uh

38:44 Speaker 3: and very marketable and yeah, and I think they'll get

38:48 Speaker 3: to I know they had, they had a long there's

38:50 Speaker 3: a lot of history there that they can capitalize on.

38:53 Speaker 3: In terms of him and Trick Williams and NXT, they're

38:57 Speaker 3: not always great. Actually, more often than not, they're not

39:01 Speaker 3: great at doing that on capitalizing on the main roster,

39:05 Speaker 3: on capitalizing on history that these characters had in NXT.

39:09 Speaker 3: I kind of understand why they don't bother to an

39:12 Speaker 3: extent because obviously it's only a small portion of the

39:15 Speaker 3: audience that's watching NXT. But still, I think they could

39:17 Speaker 3: do better about that. But I think they will get

39:19 Speaker 3: to that with Trick Williams and Carmelo Hayes. But I'm

39:22 Speaker 3: intrigued to see where they're going with Sammy's ay and

39:24 Speaker 3: I I think I'm in the minority on that, but

39:27 Speaker 3: I don't.

39:29 Speaker 1: I kind of want to see how they spend it too,

39:31 Speaker 1: I really do. Yeah. I see Trick winning tonight or

39:34 Speaker 1: not today? Is it today or tomorrow?

39:36 Speaker 3: I cannot I cannot remember.

39:39 Speaker 1: I see it looks like it's Sunday. So I see

39:43 Speaker 1: Trick winning to win the championship. I think he deserves

39:46 Speaker 1: it now again, whether creative things that way, I don't know.

39:51 Speaker 1: We'll find out.

39:52 Speaker 3: There's no hurry. He's he's very young. Oh yeah, yeah,

39:56 Speaker 3: there's no hurry. You know, there's no rush with him.

40:00 Speaker 1: I agree, But Sammy Sane has got a lot of

40:01 Speaker 1: belts under his belt, and uh, you know, the one

40:04 Speaker 1: that's eluding him is the World Championship or the w

40:07 Speaker 1: W Championships. That's the main one that's eluding him. So

40:11 Speaker 1: I think, uh, we leave him of the belt and

40:14 Speaker 1: lectric run electric, run wild on it. I think he

40:17 Speaker 1: should be just fine. You're talking about NXT guys, how

40:22 Speaker 1: about Obama massive, dude, massive, And he is completely manhandling

40:31 Speaker 1: brock Lesner. Yeah, and handling him, and that could go

40:35 Speaker 1: one of two ways because Omas also handed Lesner. Yeah,

40:41 Speaker 1: look how that turned out?

40:43 Speaker 3: Well that yeah, but that that's when Vince was still

40:45 Speaker 3: in charge.

40:49 Speaker 1: Yeah. I am hoping that the ruler rules too, and

40:57 Speaker 1: I think he will. But I also think supplex City

41:01 Speaker 1: is going to be on the road to the rule

41:05 Speaker 1: of winning. So I think there's well, we're gonna see

41:08 Speaker 1: how he feels about that, because I think he has

41:10 Speaker 1: been suplexed a couple of times and he just popped

41:12 Speaker 1: back up and it's like right, takes him down. So

41:16 Speaker 1: I'm liking Oba in that match with brock which will open,

41:20 Speaker 1: by the way, Oh yeah, both nights. The first hour

41:23 Speaker 1: from six pm Eastern to seven pm Eastern will open

41:27 Speaker 1: on ESPN one and two, respectfully. The first night tonight

41:31 Speaker 1: is on ESPN Tomorrow night, the first hour is on

41:37 Speaker 1: ESPN two. Okay, So even if you don't have ESPN Unlimited,

41:42 Speaker 1: which you know a lot of sicklers just don't want

41:45 Speaker 1: to do it. But a lot of cable companies if

41:48 Speaker 1: you subscribe that you get ESPNU limited already. Not YouTube TV.

41:51 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, YouTube TV. I appreciate that you

41:54 Speaker 1: just stick us with the with the forty dollars bill

41:56 Speaker 1: every month, but that's okay, I pay it. But yeah,

41:59 Speaker 1: if you want to see WrestleMania free of charge and

42:02 Speaker 1: you're in ESPN or ESPN two subscriber, first hour between

42:06 Speaker 1: six and seven, Oprah, Femi and brock Lesnon will be

42:10 Speaker 1: on Sunday part of that first hour and also on

42:14 Speaker 1: part of that first hour, which is kind of an

42:17 Speaker 1: interesting match that I'd like is the Vision against the

42:21 Speaker 1: U Show in l a night.

42:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's interesting. The vision with I Show Speed.

42:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, which he is, I show his true colors apparently,

42:32 Speaker 1: uh just just he didn't want to be he didn't

42:34 Speaker 1: want to be a heel. But you know, he got

42:37 Speaker 1: in the way of Dan Housen and started cursing. So

42:41 Speaker 1: that's what That's one of the things I read on

42:42 Speaker 1: Dan Housing real quickly sidetrack. Yeah, Dan Housen apparently cursed

42:47 Speaker 1: a lot of people in ae W but just never

42:49 Speaker 1: followed through. I guess that was just creative. But now

42:53 Speaker 1: when he cursed somebody does actual meaning to it. Oh

42:57 Speaker 1: wwe oh that's heard.

42:59 Speaker 3: The best was when he cursed is a dan Engler

43:01 Speaker 3: at the referee and when and when Angler goes to

43:05 Speaker 3: do the three count, Yeah, that was that was so funny.

43:10 Speaker 3: He played it perfectly to the sound he made when

43:13 Speaker 3: he went to count. That was so good. I love that.

43:20 Speaker 3: He could not have done that better anyway.

43:23 Speaker 1: So the vision with I show Speed, where as their

43:26 Speaker 1: new I guess he's a new member of the vision

43:29 Speaker 1: right he hasn't been formally introduced as against theos who

43:34 Speaker 1: are seems like there's cracks at the seam. Although then

43:39 Speaker 1: last time we saw him wasn't. But I think Jay

43:42 Speaker 1: is becoming full of himself with l A Knight, which,

43:46 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, it is a travesty that

43:49 Speaker 1: el A Knight is not in a singles match. Yeah, yeah,

43:57 Speaker 1: it's travesty. I want to see the us win, but

44:00 Speaker 1: I have somehow figured out that the Curse of Danausen

44:06 Speaker 1: is going to stay alive and the Vision will win. Oh,

44:11 Speaker 1: so I will take the Vision with I show speed

44:15 Speaker 1: getting in the way somehow some way of either just

44:19 Speaker 1: oopsie and they go up for a quick for a

44:23 Speaker 1: quick count but yeah, or something happens with Jay and

44:27 Speaker 1: Jimmy where they're bickering. Yeah, because that's not completely a

44:32 Speaker 1: cohesive unit.

44:34 Speaker 3: No, No, I can see a possible heel turn for

44:38 Speaker 3: the USOS, maybe a reformation of the bloodline. Maybe they

44:43 Speaker 3: go heel and Roman Reigns goes heel and they reconstitute

44:47 Speaker 3: the blood line somehow.

44:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, well he did. There was one part of that

44:52 Speaker 1: last promo that Roman did is and new WWE Champion

44:58 Speaker 1: where the Tribal Chief takes back. So I'm referring to

45:03 Speaker 1: himself as the travel Chief. Yeah, yeah, thinking of that.

45:07 Speaker 1: So what do you see in the Vision in USOS, though,

45:09 Speaker 1: what do you do? Do you agree?

45:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. The scenario you laid out makes sense.

45:14 Speaker 3: They probably want the Vision to go over because obviously

45:17 Speaker 3: the Vision has had a rough time with it in

45:19 Speaker 3: terms of injuries, so to keep the vision strong, they

45:23 Speaker 3: probably want the Vision to go over. And I don't

45:26 Speaker 3: think the USO's or La Night are at all hurt

45:30 Speaker 3: taking a loss in a six man tag, So yeah,

45:33 Speaker 3: I think you're probably right. I like your scenario too,

45:36 Speaker 3: that the Dan Housen curses involved, yeah in this happening,

45:40 Speaker 3: and yeah, I like it. I like it. Yeah, I'm

45:42 Speaker 3: gonna go with your prediction there.

45:44 Speaker 1: The second match is scheduled for tonight on ESPN. One

45:49 Speaker 1: is fought to and McIntire this unsanctioned match, which well,

45:55 Speaker 1: why just not call it a no holes bard match

45:57 Speaker 1: or street fight? I mean it's it's the same thing. Yeah,

46:01 Speaker 1: means there's no referee and you guys just beat somebody

46:03 Speaker 1: until they're they're dead or something like that. That's s stationed.

46:06 Speaker 3: I this is an unpopular opinion, but personally I don't

46:09 Speaker 3: enjoy those types of matches very much.

46:13 Speaker 1: It's it depends, it depends on how creative they can be. Yeah,

46:18 Speaker 1: because when you had Anne said these type of matches

46:22 Speaker 1: gimmick matches where everything's involved. You know, you have to

46:26 Speaker 1: have somebody from Jackass come in with a big, big

46:28 Speaker 1: hand knocking you over or something like that. Yeah, that

46:32 Speaker 1: makes it funny. But listen, when you can go ahead

46:35 Speaker 1: and break some tables chairs not so much Kendostick's not

46:39 Speaker 1: so much. Tables is my thing, Yeah, tables, And I

46:42 Speaker 1: think if you can go ahead and be creative, no,

46:46 Speaker 1: not just do the same thing everybody's done before.

46:48 Speaker 3: Right, because I feel like I feel like it's all

46:50 Speaker 3: been done well.

46:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like there's some things that still look

46:54 Speaker 1: good and everything's been done to a point. Matt, Yeah,

46:59 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know what what looks entertaining really,

47:03 Speaker 1: But in this one, man, this one, I kind of

47:07 Speaker 1: want McIntyre to win. Yeah, I kind of want McIntyre

47:11 Speaker 1: to take take over and just discontinues because you know, again,

47:16 Speaker 1: he's what do you do with McIntyre after that? You're

47:18 Speaker 1: gonna go after after the world title again?

47:20 Speaker 3: Or isn't isn't he isn't he going away?

47:23 Speaker 2: Though?

47:24 Speaker 3: Isn't he gonna? Doesn't he have to film the Highlander,

47:27 Speaker 3: the Newer whatever, whatever it is.

47:31 Speaker 1: But there's no gold to this stuff. Yeah, so yeah,

47:35 Speaker 1: I can see what you're saying. Yeah, everybody's you know what,

47:37 Speaker 1: this is the problem with booking these matches. Everybody's doing

47:41 Speaker 1: a movie. Stop doing movies. What's your careers over or

47:46 Speaker 1: you know, at least take a vacation after the story ends,

47:50 Speaker 1: right end at WrestleMania. This should be new ones beginning.

47:55 Speaker 1: She whiz, I mean, stop making movies.

47:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, but if it gives you an excuse to have

47:59 Speaker 3: thought to go over strong and you know, because because

48:03 Speaker 3: that guy that that's a he's a future WrestleMania main

48:06 Speaker 3: eventor no doubt.

48:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what you talked me, and do it? Okay?

48:10 Speaker 3: I want, Yeah, I do to you want?

48:13 Speaker 1: I do? I do. I don't think it's the first match,

48:16 Speaker 1: but you got for care against liv Morgan, which, by

48:20 Speaker 1: the way, since she didn't watch SmackDown Live, have you

48:24 Speaker 1: seen Liv Morgan's music video? Yes, oh my god, don't

48:33 Speaker 1: tell my wife.

48:34 Speaker 3: But dang, yeah yeah, Jenny and I saw it.

48:39 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think she's spectacular, not only audio but visually

48:46 Speaker 1: as well. If she ever does do a music career,

48:50 Speaker 1: and if it's backed by t K O W W

48:52 Speaker 1: E whatever. Yeah, I think she can make it big.

48:55 Speaker 1: I really do she does. She doesn't have to go

48:58 Speaker 1: the way of Nadia and going into only fans or

49:01 Speaker 1: anything like that. She can just go right here into

49:04 Speaker 1: the music industry anyway. The Vicaire has held it, She's

49:09 Speaker 1: done a great job. But I think Live Live needs

49:12 Speaker 1: to go ahead and get some gold. So I'm gonna

49:15 Speaker 1: say Live.

49:18 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Sephanie Vicare just because I'm so

49:20 Speaker 3: impressed with her. I think she's amazing. They're both amazing, though.

49:24 Speaker 1: They are, I think they're both good and mean competitors.

49:27 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely.

49:29 Speaker 1: I think Vicier is held onto the belt and you

49:33 Speaker 1: know what, Yeah, I Live Live doing it, And I

49:36 Speaker 1: think maybe there's all right this one here for the

49:42 Speaker 1: woman's in her continental ajlay Becking Lynch. Is AJ really

49:48 Speaker 1: worthy of holding onto the championship or do we needed

49:51 Speaker 1: to go back to somebody that's had a more of

49:54 Speaker 1: a steady hand sort of speak. Basically, there should be

49:58 Speaker 1: the end of this rivalry. Yeah, and I actually would

50:02 Speaker 1: like to see AJ keep it.

50:04 Speaker 3: I'm a big Becky Lynch fan. As long as Becky

50:06 Speaker 3: Lynch as a heel as a babyface. I think she's

50:09 Speaker 3: quite boring, but I love Becky Lynch as a heel,

50:12 Speaker 3: although if she loses, that gives her more reason to

50:14 Speaker 3: be angry and and angry. Becky Lynch promo, which is

50:18 Speaker 3: really every Becky Lynch promo as a heel, is amazing.

50:22 Speaker 3: I love her promos, love her promos. I think she's

50:25 Speaker 3: great in the ring too, But honestly, I just love

50:27 Speaker 3: listening to her talk.

50:29 Speaker 1: I'll take a look at the time, and I know

50:30 Speaker 1: we're running short, so let me go ahead and just

50:32 Speaker 1: breach through these year okay for the fiddle fourway. By

50:36 Speaker 1: the way, I do want to go ahead and let

50:39 Speaker 1: you know nik Kella is out.

50:42 Speaker 3: She is definitely out.

50:44 Speaker 1: Yes, okay's taking her place at least what I heard Page.

50:49 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, she's been signed to WWE. It's been confirmed

50:53 Speaker 1: all over social media, okay, but it has not been

50:57 Speaker 1: made official on SmackDown. There was no drop or anything

51:00 Speaker 1: of that. That'll be a cool surprise, so it would

51:03 Speaker 1: be brief and Page going up against everybody else. But

51:08 Speaker 1: I I want to see the irresistible forces keep it. Yeah,

51:14 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go ahead and say irresistible Forces what

51:16 Speaker 1: about you.

51:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I agree they should have a longer

51:19 Speaker 3: run with the title.

51:21 Speaker 1: Seth Roylins and Goonther. I think it makes Seth look

51:24 Speaker 1: very weak if you lose. Well, I don't think it

51:26 Speaker 1: makes him too weak, but I think there needs to

51:30 Speaker 1: be a reason why Gunther wins. If it's interference, fine,

51:33 Speaker 1: but if it's just straight up, I think Seth should win,

51:38 Speaker 1: and I'll take it because division is very light right now,

51:42 Speaker 1: so I will go ahead and just say Seth wins.

51:45 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. I don't have a prediction on

51:49 Speaker 3: that one. I think it could go either way.

51:52 Speaker 1: Cody and Randy. I think Randy saves the business and

51:54 Speaker 1: he will go ahead and win that his fifteenth. I

51:56 Speaker 1: think it's just too much build up and then and

51:58 Speaker 1: just such a disappointment, and course Cody filming a movie.

52:02 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think so, I agree. I agree.

52:06 Speaker 1: I already said O. But over Brock, I think that's

52:08 Speaker 1: gonna happen the six pack ladder match, Dude, I want

52:13 Speaker 1: Javon Evans. Oh yeah, Oh my god, would that be

52:17 Speaker 1: such an awesome moment for that kid. Gavan. I know

52:20 Speaker 1: he's young, and I know if he loses it's not

52:22 Speaker 1: gonna be a big deal. But man, he's my pick

52:25 Speaker 1: because I think Dragon Ray shouldn't win. JD what is

52:29 Speaker 1: he doing in there? I mean if he wins, that

52:31 Speaker 1: just solidifies the judgment day even more. Russev. I don't

52:36 Speaker 1: even think he knows how to climb a ladder. Yeah,

52:38 Speaker 1: so I think it comes down to Javon and Penta.

52:40 Speaker 3: Really it might be Panta. They're big on Panta right now.

52:44 Speaker 1: They are You're right, You're right. But yeah, I'm gonna

52:47 Speaker 1: pick Javon. I'm just gonna go off the deep end.

52:49 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Panta.

52:50 Speaker 1: Yeah. Jade and Rhea. I think Ria just takes back

52:55 Speaker 1: where it was rightfully hers. Jade has not done anything

52:58 Speaker 1: with that title. Could definitely make something happen. Uh already

53:03 Speaker 1: said trick over Sammy. Yep, Finn Balwod dominic mysterio. But

53:07 Speaker 1: Finn is coming back as the demon. You don't mess

53:09 Speaker 1: with the demon, it's Finn.

53:13 Speaker 3: Agrees. Yeah, Finn goes over.

53:15 Speaker 1: Yep and Uh see him punk Roman reigns this one.

53:21 Speaker 1: I may need this last sixty seconds to find to

53:23 Speaker 1: figure this out.

53:27 Speaker 3: I can't call it. I don't know what they're gonna do.

53:30 Speaker 1: I think I think if I do everything right, I

53:33 Speaker 1: think CM Punk drops it. Yeah, I'm gonna yeah, I'm

53:40 Speaker 1: gonna go Roman.

53:41 Speaker 3: Uh gone to my head, I would also go Roman.

53:43 Speaker 3: But but uh but I but I think there's I

53:45 Speaker 3: think there's gonna be some sort of a surprise that

53:48 Speaker 3: were that we don't see coming during that match.

53:51 Speaker 1: That's that's usually when the pull it. There's that listen

53:54 Speaker 1: times up in WrestleMania. It's like either you do it

53:56 Speaker 1: now or you don't do it at all.

53:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, something's coming.

54:00 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you talking with me. With WrestleMania, I

54:02 Speaker 1: know it happens once a year, and these pos they

54:05 Speaker 1: are mostly interesting. Yeah, absolutely, like yeah, did they pass

54:11 Speaker 1: like gas? Sometimes?

54:13 Speaker 3: Do you want to you should plug both The Charles

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54:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, so The Charles Richardson Show will do that first

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55:20 Speaker 1: they're both just gonna be recap shows, okay, tonight, but

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55:33 Speaker 3: Very good, very good, well, Charles Richardson, my friend, always

55:36 Speaker 3: wonderful to speak. Whether you will let you go as

55:38 Speaker 3: we are approaching the top of the hour, but this

55:40 Speaker 3: has been great and I can't wait to do it again,

55:43 Speaker 3: my friend. Absolutely look forward to it. Thank you, all right, Charles,

55:46 Speaker 3: you got it. Take care. I'll talk to you soon,

55:48 Speaker 3: all right, bye, right bye bye, all right. Always wonderful

55:51 Speaker 3: to speak with the great Charles Richardson. By the way,

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55:56 Speaker 3: don't know if you are listening live on Saturday this

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56:33 Speaker 3: is actually over, because Jenny and I will probably still

56:35 Speaker 3: be watching because we haven't even watched SmackDown yet. So

56:40 Speaker 3: but that's okay. They'll let me know, and I don't

56:42 Speaker 3: mind spoilers. Jenny does not like spoilers. I don't mind.

56:45 Speaker 3: I almost don't have the discipline to avoid them. I

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57:05 Speaker 3: had Stephen de Cure here live in studio and that

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57:21 Speaker 3: then of course in the third hour we had the

57:23 Speaker 3: great Charles Richardson. That's gonna do it for us for now.

57:27 Speaker 3: I'll leave you with a little bit of the demolition theme.

57:30 Speaker 3: They were finally finally demolition in the WWE Hall of Fame.

57:34 Speaker 3: That just happened. And that's it for us for now.

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57:44 Speaker 2: Bye, everybody. Those ass and that was a smaster of de.

59:11 Speaker 1: Walk in the Sass the sa Ron.

59:22 Speaker 3: It's not nice

59:23 Speaker 1: Now alas alas