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Cognition | Matt Connarton Unleashed
Speaker 1: There it is.
Speaker 2: That is the Washed the band is a cognition and
Speaker 2: I believe we have gen X with us via Microsoft teams.
Speaker 2: Jan are you there? Good morning, Good morning, welcome back
Speaker 2: to the show. You have been on, of course once
Speaker 2: before with your other band, and I remember we went
Speaker 2: through this and you'll have to refresh my memory.
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it Generations or Generation z yess Generations? So that's
Speaker 2: the other band that we had you on with. But
Speaker 2: this project, I really like this a lot.
Speaker 1: Cognition. I love the sound.
Speaker 2: We're going to play at the end of our conversation today,
Speaker 2: we're going to play the other single that you sent us,
Speaker 2: the game, which is also a really great track. But
Speaker 2: and where are you geographically? Are you in Missouri? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're in Springfield, Springfield, Missouri.
Speaker 1: How is that close to Saint Louis.
Speaker 3: Three and a half hours?
Speaker 1: Oh? Not close at all. Okay, what are you close to?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 2: We might have talked about this last time too, But
Speaker 2: is there what, like, what's the big big city that
Speaker 2: you're close to or is there one one?
Speaker 3: Well, so we're so we are close.
Speaker 1: To Branson, Branson.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm I actually live in Branson.
Speaker 1: Oh, you live in Branson. Okay, gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 2: And what I do want to talk about the song,
Speaker 2: But before we do that, what's the difference between because
Speaker 2: of some of the same members right in both.
Speaker 3: Bands for a four out of five?
Speaker 1: Four out of five?
Speaker 2: Okay, Now that's interesting because I mean, with with that
Speaker 2: that ratio, what can you describe the difference between the
Speaker 2: two projects in terms of I mean, if it's only
Speaker 2: one member different, like, tell us about that.
Speaker 1: I'm really curious about this.
Speaker 2: How do you like, you know, because obviously you know
Speaker 2: they're both rock, they're both metal. But what what is
Speaker 2: the difference between the two bands Cognition and Generations?
Speaker 4: Well, so both so the members all play different instruments too.
Speaker 4: So for like Generations, Daniel is the drummer for Generations,
Speaker 4: but he's the guitar player for Cognition. Oh interesting, Michael, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Michael plays the bay for Generations, but he plays the
Speaker 4: guitar for Cognition.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: And Anthony plays.
Speaker 4: The guitar for Generations, but he plays the bass for Cognition.
Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting. Okay, that's cool. I've never I've never
Speaker 2: seen anything quite like that where you have you know,
Speaker 2: basically it's most of the same people with two different
Speaker 2: bands because they just play different instruments in the different projects.
Speaker 2: That's really interesting, that's cool. Yeah, how so how did
Speaker 2: I assume Generations was first?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So well I believe so. Well. No, actually they were playing.
Speaker 4: Cognition first, okay, and then started Generations. But I came
Speaker 4: into Generations first.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Now do any of these songs cross over? Do you
Speaker 2: and end up getting played by both both bands?
Speaker 1: Because I was not yet, not yet, not yet.
Speaker 4: No, It's it's funny because well, we recently unfortunately lost
Speaker 4: our drummer that you hear on both of our tracks,
Speaker 4: and uh so we we have a new drummer, and
Speaker 4: it's amazing how just one member can completely change the
Speaker 4: sound and the vibe of a band. Yeah, it's also
Speaker 4: interesting to me. I I was like, being the lead singer, you.
Speaker 3: Know, for both bands. My voice doesn't really change, so I.
Speaker 4: Wasn't quite sure if it was just gonna wind up
Speaker 4: sounding like the same band. But it really doesn't. Both
Speaker 4: bands are still completely different, even though you know I'm.
Speaker 2: The same right right, Yeah, that that dynamic is very
Speaker 2: interesting to me. Well, let's talk about the song the Washed,
Speaker 2: because this is heavy stuff. And you know when you
Speaker 2: listen to it. Obviously, songs, you know, lyrics can can
Speaker 2: mean different things to different people, And of course there's
Speaker 2: no right or wrong answer, because art is up to
Speaker 2: the individual to interpret it however it means whatever it's
Speaker 2: going to end up meaning to them as as in
Speaker 2: this case as a listener. But but the song does
Speaker 2: have a very specific meeting from the meaning, from the
Speaker 2: point of view of what you wrote about and tell
Speaker 2: us about that, what is the washed about.
Speaker 4: So it's almost like a like a war cry for
Speaker 4: anthem for trying to raise awareness and trying to come
Speaker 4: together to help battle this fit and al epidemic, because
Speaker 4: I mean, that's exactly what it is. I think it's
Speaker 4: reached the point where you're probably not going to find
Speaker 4: a person who's not been affected in some way, whether
Speaker 4: it's a family member, or whether it's a coworker, or
Speaker 4: whether it's just somebody you know or you know, whether
Speaker 4: it's just someone very close to you. But it's it's
Speaker 4: astating and everybody, every one of us in the band
Speaker 4: has been touched by it. I've lost several friends, Daniel
Speaker 4: lost his cousin, and that's who the song is actually
Speaker 4: wrote for okay, So, yeah, we got to do something.
Speaker 2: What was it like recording it? Because again, uh, it's
Speaker 2: heavy stuff the subject.
Speaker 1: I mean, was was that challenging at all? Or was it?
Speaker 2: Was it kind of just like recording any other song?
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, what was that like to to
Speaker 2: work on this? Because obviously, when you're talking about a
Speaker 2: subject like that, you wanted to really come across. You know,
Speaker 2: you want it to come across to the listener as
Speaker 2: being about something important. You know, even if they don't
Speaker 2: necessarily connect. You know, you don't hear the word fentanyl
Speaker 2: and the lyrics necessarily right, but but but you want it.
Speaker 2: You do want it to connect to the listener in
Speaker 2: a way that they know they're listening to something important
Speaker 2: and that you're talking about something serious. So was that
Speaker 2: a challenge in terms of recording this?
Speaker 4: So the studio is probably our favorite place. You know,
Speaker 4: music is a coping mechanism. Uh, the best coping mechanism,
Speaker 4: I feel like. So, so I would say no, just
Speaker 4: for that aspect, because that is our space that we
Speaker 4: can get in there and have all the emotions and uh,
Speaker 4: but you know, use it positively.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense. And
Speaker 2: what's the reception been like? You know, I assume you've
Speaker 2: been you know, people probably ask you, you know, what's
Speaker 2: the song about, or maybe.
Speaker 1: Maybe as you're as you've released.
Speaker 2: This because it is available right this is this is
Speaker 2: already out on all the platforms, I assume, I mean,
Speaker 2: what what what's the reception been like to the song
Speaker 2: so far?
Speaker 4: Uh? You know, it's it's it's been great. We you
Speaker 4: never know when you release something what the response is
Speaker 4: gonna be. And I and I'm nervous every time. It
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. I'm nervous every time I go on stage, right,
Speaker 4: And but the response has been great, you know, since
Speaker 4: I've started both of these projects. It's I was not expecting.
Speaker 4: I really went into it not expecting anything. M hm.
Speaker 4: And uh, I was just living my best life, I guess.
Speaker 4: And uh, but this response has just been really great.
Speaker 4: It's everybody's been overwhelmingly supportive.
Speaker 3: And uh.
Speaker 4: And we are planning on putting a music video to
Speaker 4: this one. We're going to get community involved. I reached
Speaker 4: out to some some people in the community and they
Speaker 4: have graciously provided us with some photos of their family
Speaker 4: members that have been impacted. And uh, you know, we're
Speaker 4: gonna we're going to honor them in the videos.
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm really excited about this one for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh that's that's excellent.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like, you know, because when you mentioned
Speaker 2: the community, do you mean when you say community in
Speaker 2: this context, you mean just just the area that you
Speaker 2: live in or are you referring to and I suspect
Speaker 2: it's this, but are you referring more to just the
Speaker 2: music community? Because it seems like people who are artistic,
Speaker 2: particularly in music, musicians we've all known. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: I've been around a while, we all know a lot
Speaker 2: of For whatever reason, musicians tend to very often be
Speaker 2: people who fall prone to addiction, whether it's fentanyl or
Speaker 2: anything else, any number of things. I mean, is that
Speaker 2: kind of what you're referring to, like in the music community,
Speaker 2: or do you mean geographically or or what do you
Speaker 2: mean exactly just a.
Speaker 4: Mixture of both. I also, you know, joined some fitanel
Speaker 4: support groups. Oh wow, have some really great support groups
Speaker 4: on Facebook for anybody that is looking for some support.
Speaker 3: And I highly encourage that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so you know we've reached out to those
Speaker 4: groups too as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, no, that's good.
Speaker 2: And why why the washed? What is what is the
Speaker 2: meaning of that term in the context of the song?
Speaker 3: I think you know that Again that's left up to
Speaker 3: the interpreter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, it's you know, we're washing clean and
Speaker 4: starting over. Yeah, we all have mistakes, we all go
Speaker 4: through hard times. It's part of the learning process, it's
Speaker 4: part of the growth process.
Speaker 3: Shame.
Speaker 4: When people carry shame, it leads to a lot of
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of negative coping, I think, And
Speaker 4: so for me, it's washing that shame.
Speaker 1: Away right right now?
Speaker 2: Have you have you had a chance to perform this live?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, good?
Speaker 2: And tell us about two you know, because again we
Speaker 2: talked about generations last time we were on the show.
Speaker 2: We don't know a lot about cognition. But so you've
Speaker 2: got this, and you've got the single of the game,
Speaker 2: And have you released other music under Cognition or are
Speaker 2: those the only two track so far?
Speaker 4: Not yet, that's the only two, but we definitely have
Speaker 4: more coming. We're working on a full album.
Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent.
Speaker 2: And then are you the other track the game, which
Speaker 2: we're gonna play at the end of our conversation, which
Speaker 2: also really love. Did you record those in the same place,
Speaker 2: the same studio.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay? And where do you record these?
Speaker 2: Because we should give some shine to I don't know
Speaker 2: if you there's so many different ways to record now,
Speaker 2: you know you can at a lot of musicians have
Speaker 2: home studios. A lot of musicians will still go to
Speaker 2: a studio work with a engineer and producer and everything.
Speaker 2: But I really like sonically, I think both these songs
Speaker 2: sound absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious where you record well?
Speaker 4: That is kudos to Jeff Smith over at Studio twenty
Speaker 4: one in Springfield.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay? And how did you come to work with him?
Speaker 4: So I believe Daniel has worked with him on projects previously.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, because he does Like I said, I mean,
Speaker 2: the sound uh is is great?
Speaker 1: Does he? I know?
Speaker 2: Very often in these situations sometimes an engineer will become
Speaker 2: more a producer will become almost like a like an
Speaker 2: additional member of the band. Is he someone who makes
Speaker 2: a lot of suggestions or does he just obviously he
Speaker 2: gets a great sound out of you.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Does he offer a lot of input or does does
Speaker 2: he just just record?
Speaker 4: Yes? So specifically, in generations, we're gonna be using a
Speaker 4: lot of different just backing tracks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he we've kind of given.
Speaker 4: Him the creative space to to see what he hears
Speaker 4: and so he's really been helping us on those backing tracks.
Speaker 2: So okay, so what yeah, So in terms of recording
Speaker 2: with him, because you mentioned generations on the backing tracks,
Speaker 2: what's kind of the and again, because the dynamic of
Speaker 2: this is so interesting to me. It's basically two bands
Speaker 2: in one but just with with everybody playing different instruments
Speaker 2: or almost everybody, So.
Speaker 1: What what's kind of the priority?
Speaker 2: Is there a hierarchy in terms of what your priorities
Speaker 2: are with with each band because you're working, so you're
Speaker 2: both bands are recording at the same place, right, So
Speaker 2: is there a hierarchy in terms of what you're trying
Speaker 2: to do first?
Speaker 4: In terms of recording, we just we kind of rotate,
Speaker 4: you know, we go in this can get things accomplished
Speaker 4: for generation, and then we go in this week for
Speaker 4: cognition and people ask me all the time, like which
Speaker 4: one do you like better? And it's hard because I
Speaker 4: love them both for different reasons.
Speaker 2: Right right, Well tell us so what now I'm curious
Speaker 2: now that you said that, So what are the what
Speaker 2: are the things that you love? What are the different
Speaker 2: things that you love about each project?
Speaker 4: So Cognition I feel like kind of is more connected
Speaker 4: to my roots, and uh, you know, I relate.
Speaker 3: I relate to all the music, but some of the
Speaker 3: songs in cogn Nition definitely hint more on my past,
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 4: And and then Generations I have.
Speaker 3: I feel like it opens up more of a creative
Speaker 3: side of me, and and a lot.
Speaker 4: Of it kind of hits just into who I am now,
Speaker 4: and and they have different feels in different vibes. Generation
Speaker 4: is definitely heavier, so it's kind of more I don't know,
Speaker 4: Gothic princess with.
Speaker 3: Some Wichi vibes a little bit too. I love it.
Speaker 3: But and like I said, Cognition is more.
Speaker 4: I almost feel like it had I don't want to
Speaker 4: turn it into that, but again, I kind of feel
Speaker 4: like it speaks kind of to my roots.
Speaker 3: So it has a little bit more of a country
Speaker 3: vibe to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we might.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm probably gonna have time. I might sneak in.
Speaker 2: Like I said, we're gonna play in just a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes. We're gonna play the game. The other single
Speaker 2: that you sent us for cognition, but I think after
Speaker 2: that I might also sneak in that Generations track that
Speaker 2: we played before Seance, because I really liked that one
Speaker 2: a lot too, And for listeners who didn't get to
Speaker 2: hear that before when we featured that on the show,
Speaker 2: it'll be kind of a chance for them to sort
Speaker 2: of maybe compare and contrast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and tell us again.
Speaker 2: Too about your roots. You know, you mentioned cognition kind
Speaker 2: of plays to your roots a little bit, and we
Speaker 2: did talk about that before when you were on the show.
Speaker 2: But again for newer listeners who might not know, tell
Speaker 2: us a little bit about your background.
Speaker 4: So being raised in Branson, Missouri, which back in the
Speaker 4: nineties specifically was the country music capital of the world,
Speaker 4: and my parents were entertainers there. I grew up a
Speaker 4: child performer performing in the shows around here, and I
Speaker 4: you know, I mostly I guess you could say classically
Speaker 4: trained in country So mostly what I grew up doing
Speaker 4: was country music, Okay, But Rocks has always been the core.
Speaker 3: Of my being.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be able to do it, you know.
Speaker 4: Again, coming into this, I was nervous how my tone
Speaker 4: was going to translate and see where it was going
Speaker 4: to go. But my voice has changed tremendously since I've
Speaker 4: started this project, so.
Speaker 1: Oh has it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 4: It's grown a lot, it's deepened, it's my range has
Speaker 4: definitely changed, the tone has changed.
Speaker 3: It's it's been cool.
Speaker 1: Is that is.
Speaker 2: That something you've tried to do intentionally or did that
Speaker 2: just happen organically over time?
Speaker 1: I know some people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes our voices do change as we get older,
Speaker 2: they get deeper, or even like doing this, like if
Speaker 2: I listen to a podcast I did twenty years ago,
Speaker 2: it's like almost sound like almost sound like a kid. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: does your approach to vocals consciously change when you're you know,
Speaker 2: when you started in these these bands?
Speaker 1: Obviously, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you sing kind of the same way
Speaker 2: that you did when you were singing country all the time,
Speaker 2: or or or did your approach intentionally change?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's all it's all changed.
Speaker 4: And even when I go back to trying to sing
Speaker 4: other things, it sounds differently too, And I think some
Speaker 4: of that also just comes with, you know, the confidence
Speaker 4: growth as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting to me because a lot of the
Speaker 2: new country I'm talking about, like really new stuff that
Speaker 2: that is kind of you know, it almost has an eighties.
Speaker 1: Rock vibe to it.
Speaker 2: And the one thing in the New Country that you'll
Speaker 2: hear that's that's still that makes it country because some
Speaker 2: of the some of the stuff, you know, like like
Speaker 2: my adopted son, Christian, he works at at ninety six
Speaker 2: point five, the big country station here in our area,
Speaker 2: and you know, so sometimes I'll tune in and it's
Speaker 2: a lot of it is it sounds like eighties rock.
Speaker 2: But the only thing that makes it country is the
Speaker 2: way that the vocal is just singing. There's like it's
Speaker 2: like they'll be just enough. It's subtle, they'll be just
Speaker 2: enough twang in the vocals where where you know, if
Speaker 2: somebody who's a rock singer who would never sung country,
Speaker 2: we're singing that exact same song, it would just sound
Speaker 2: like a rock song. It's really interesting to me. That's
Speaker 2: why I was curious about how your vocal approach might
Speaker 2: be different in these projects versus when you were singing
Speaker 2: country on a regular basis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I you know, I'm I think we've all
Speaker 4: made it a point and I don't know, maybe that
Speaker 4: comes with age two, but we've definitely all made it
Speaker 4: a point to just be ourselves, like fully authentically and
Speaker 4: have a good time and whatever comes out comes.
Speaker 3: Out, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so and we're experimenting, you know, that's part of
Speaker 4: it too, And music nowadays has.
Speaker 3: There there are pros and.
Speaker 4: Cons to how music has changed and blending the genres,
Speaker 4: because the genres are definitely getting blended and it's creating
Speaker 4: some really awesome stuff. So that's kind of what I
Speaker 4: feel like work we're doing as well. So we've got
Speaker 4: a couple of new songs coming out with Generations that
Speaker 4: are featuring some rap artists, so oh interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're mixing metal with rap artists.
Speaker 1: So very cool.
Speaker 4: Fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that is that's that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Well, Jen, like I said in a moment, we're gonna
Speaker 2: play the game another great track that I love from Cognition.
Speaker 2: So we'll we'll let you go in a second, but
Speaker 2: please let our listeners know where's the best place to
Speaker 2: go online for people who want to keep up with
Speaker 2: everything that Cognition is doing and you know Generations as well,
Speaker 2: Like where should people go online to keep up with
Speaker 2: these bands?
Speaker 3: So we're on every you.
Speaker 4: Know, so media platform. You can find us on Facebook,
Speaker 4: and Instagram. I have a personal Facebook because I also
Speaker 4: do some projects even just outside of that.
Speaker 3: I did a nineties acoustic cover set last night.
Speaker 4: I've got a national Anthem performance in a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks for like a professional wrestling event, and I've never
Speaker 4: been to a professional wrestling event, so I'm really excited
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 3: That's going to be so much fun.
Speaker 4: And that's the cool thing about about doing all these projects,
Speaker 4: and because you get to just experience so many new places,
Speaker 4: so many different people, so many great bands. Because there's
Speaker 4: so many great bands out there. Live music is not dead,
Speaker 4: and yeah, it's just been a journey and it's great.
Speaker 4: But you can find us on I have a TikTok,
Speaker 4: so we're just everywhere.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, excellent.
Speaker 2: I do have to keep you a moment longer because
Speaker 2: you mentioned you're going to be seeing the national Anthem
Speaker 2: at a professional wrestling event. So I'm a big wrestling fan.
Speaker 2: I even do a podcast with a couple guys called
Speaker 2: Tough Bumps, So I just have to ask you, like,
Speaker 2: what is what is this wrestling event that you're gonna
Speaker 2: be singing the anthem at?
Speaker 4: So it's show It's show me State Wrestling, which is
Speaker 4: like the Missouri Wrestling Organization I believe is uh doing
Speaker 4: an event in Fulton, Missouri. Okay, I can't can't remember
Speaker 4: the name of what the event is specifically, Oh, the
Speaker 4: Wyatt Wyatt International.
Speaker 1: I think really Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, they've had they've been promoting the crap out
Speaker 4: of it, and it looks like they have so many
Speaker 4: wrestlers coming.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm excited. It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: Oh, very cool. I'm gonna have to look that up online.
Speaker 2: I'm curious now, and are you are you only performing
Speaker 2: or the national anthem or do they have you involved
Speaker 2: in anything? I hope no one's going to hit you
Speaker 2: with a chair or anything like that, but do they
Speaker 2: do they have you doing anything else at the event
Speaker 2: or just singing or maybe it's a surprise that you
Speaker 2: can't tell us.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well how we.
Speaker 4: Got involved is they actually decided to use something wicked
Speaker 4: as their theme song for the event?
Speaker 1: Oh the Generations track?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh wow, Oh.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. Okay, okay, yeah, very cool.
Speaker 3: So I was excited about that.
Speaker 4: And then we actually had Reaper Wrestling out of Canada
Speaker 4: pick up seance as their theme song for their next
Speaker 4: upcoming event.
Speaker 1: Well that's a cool niche.
Speaker 3: That was not expecting it. Yeah, I know, it's it's
Speaker 3: so cool. I'm just I'm honored and I love it.
Speaker 4: And there was a festival in New York called the
Speaker 4: Something Wicked Festival and they picked up our song also
Speaker 4: for to be their theme song.
Speaker 3: For the festival.
Speaker 4: So I've I know, I guess I feel kind of
Speaker 4: dumb now for not realizing that that existed or that's
Speaker 4: the thing, but I didn't cool.
Speaker 2: That is very cool. Well, congratulations on that. So we
Speaker 2: might have to I might have to sneak in Something
Speaker 2: Wicked too from Generations at some point in the show today.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: Congratulations on that. That's very very cool. Well, well, gen X,
Speaker 2: thank you again so much. It is wonderful to speak
Speaker 2: with you today. We'll let you go in a second.
Speaker 2: We're going to hit this track of the game, which
Speaker 2: I absolutely love Cognition. But as you're I'm glad you know,
Speaker 2: sounds like you got new music on the way. So
Speaker 2: as you're releasing new music, we'd love to play it
Speaker 2: here and we'd love to have you back soon. You
Speaker 2: got a lot of great stuff going on. Very positive
Speaker 2: and congratulations again on the Washed. That's a great song,
Speaker 2: very very powerful. Love that a lot so so again,
Speaker 2: we wish you continued success and we look forward to
Speaker 2: having you on again soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: It's always a blast, absolutely, jen all right, thank you,
Speaker 2: take care, have a good day.
Speaker 1: We'll talk again soon. I'm sure, take care. B all right,
Speaker 1: bye bye, all right.
Speaker 2: That is jen X from the band Cognition and of
Speaker 2: course Generations as well. Might sneak in a couple of
Speaker 2: those songs, but right now we're going to play this.
Speaker 2: This is another great song from Cognition. This is called
Speaker 2: The Game. I really like the sound of this one.
Speaker 2: Check this out.
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