Rust Never Sleeps | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:17 Speaker 1: Oh man, look at my life farm a lot like

0:22 Speaker 1: you were. Oh man, look at my life, farm a

0:30 Speaker 1: lot like you were. Oh man, look at my life

0:48 Speaker 1: twenty four and there's so much more.

0:51 Speaker 2: Live alone in a paradise.

0:54 Speaker 3: It makes me think to.

0:58 Speaker 4: Love loss, punch of cars. Give me things.

1:03 Speaker 5: It won't get lost, like a car, it won't guitars.

1:08 Speaker 4: Stroll and hold you, old dad.

1:19 Speaker 2: Take a look in my life from a lot like you.

1:25 Speaker 2: I need someone to love me all day.

1:33 Speaker 6: Look in my eyes and you can tell that's stroll.

1:53 Speaker 2: Lullabies.

1:54 Speaker 3: Look in your eyes, run around the.

1:57 Speaker 2: Same old town.

2:00 Speaker 4: Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean not much

2:03 Speaker 4: to you.

2:06 Speaker 2: I've been the first to last.

2:10 Speaker 4: Look at how the time goes past.

2:13 Speaker 7: Now all love man, Ah, that's take a look at

2:28 Speaker 7: my life.

2:29 Speaker 4: I'm not like you.

2:34 Speaker 2: I someone enough the whole day.

2:41 Speaker 4: One.

2:42 Speaker 6: Look at my eyes and you can tell that's true.

2:56 Speaker 1: Oh man, look at my life farm like you.

3:04 Speaker 3: Oh man, look in my life, farm like you.

3:20 Speaker 8: It's so good. That is Neil Young's Old Man, as

3:22 Speaker 8: performed by Rust Never Sleeps, And we have Rust Never

3:25 Speaker 8: Sleeps here with us, live in studio, and we're gonna

3:27 Speaker 8: talk with them in just a moment and they're gonna

3:29 Speaker 8: play for us. But welcome everybody, and let's get those

3:31 Speaker 8: mics up here as we welcome Rust Never Sleeps. Hey everybody,

3:37 Speaker 8: good morning, good good, all right, Rina, let's start with you.

3:40 Speaker 8: What I'd like you each to do is introduce yourselves.

3:42 Speaker 8: It also gives me a chance to check your mics

3:45 Speaker 8: and tell us who you are, what you do in

3:47 Speaker 8: the band, and many other pertinence you want us to

3:49 Speaker 8: know about. Oh wait a minute, I cannot hear you

3:53 Speaker 8: at all. He there, we go, there we go. See

3:56 Speaker 8: that's why I do this.

3:59 Speaker 9: Yet. Hey everybody, I'm Rena and I've been with Rust

4:02 Speaker 9: Never Sleeps for going on twenty years, and I sing

4:06 Speaker 9: vocals in the band, started with some great background vocals

4:10 Speaker 9: and do some solo numbers too, But love playing with

4:13 Speaker 9: these guys.

4:14 Speaker 8: Outstanding, outstanding, and you, sir.

4:16 Speaker 10: Chuck Nemitz here. I was referred here by my kid,

4:19 Speaker 10: who was on a couple of times. Yes, he plays

4:22 Speaker 10: in a band called Sick Dude. Hell, yes, yes, yes, anyway,

4:25 Speaker 10: I love being here. And I've been with Kenny since

4:28 Speaker 10: the onset of this project some close to twenty five

4:31 Speaker 10: years ago. No kidding at this point.

4:33 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he has been around a while.

4:35 Speaker 11: Ye have.

4:36 Speaker 10: I also got them in just quick so I don't forget.

4:38 Speaker 10: Is that Reena is also playing with a wonderful Tom

4:40 Speaker 10: Petty tribute. Oh o kidding called Petty Larceny. Okay, Oh

4:44 Speaker 10: that's all now, I'll pass it over to the band leader,

4:49 Speaker 10: the ring leader.

4:50 Speaker 12: Ah, yeah, I'm Ken. That's me. I'm the ring leader okay,

4:54 Speaker 12: or the cat herder.

4:56 Speaker 11: Yeah.

4:56 Speaker 12: We've been doing it for about you think our band

5:00 Speaker 12: archives says it's twenty five years. Okay, this coming up

5:04 Speaker 12: next year.

5:04 Speaker 10: I think it's twenty five.

5:05 Speaker 8: Twenty five years.

5:06 Speaker 13: Wow.

5:07 Speaker 8: Wow. So that's you sing an old man of course. Yeah,

5:09 Speaker 8: that's a track that we played. It sound amazing.

5:13 Speaker 10: Thank you.

5:13 Speaker 8: Absolutely, that is so so good. Actually, you should tell

5:16 Speaker 8: us about that, because people should if they go on

5:18 Speaker 8: YouTube and check the video. The video of that's really cool.

5:21 Speaker 8: It's it looks like you're playing in a barn.

5:23 Speaker 12: Yeah.

5:23 Speaker 10: Yeah.

5:24 Speaker 12: My nephew is an independent filmmaker and he did that

5:27 Speaker 12: for us.

5:27 Speaker 8: Oh no kidding.

5:28 Speaker 12: Yeah, pretty cool.

5:29 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, I like two out because I found two

5:31 Speaker 8: versions of it. There's a color version in a black

5:33 Speaker 8: and white version. Oh okay, that's right, yea, yeah, yeah,

5:35 Speaker 8: so yeah, that is pretty cool. Is he You said

5:39 Speaker 8: he's an independent filmmaker.

5:40 Speaker 12: Yeah, his name is Mark Battle. Okay, He's made some

5:42 Speaker 12: pretty cool films. He won some awards, no kidding. Yeah,

5:45 Speaker 12: really passionate about it.

5:46 Speaker 8: Oh, very cool.

5:47 Speaker 12: I'm lucky to have him around. Yeah.

5:50 Speaker 10: Yeah, a great promo video.

5:52 Speaker 13: Yeah.

5:52 Speaker 8: Oh wow, that's awesome. That's awesome. So how did this start?

5:55 Speaker 8: How did this project begin? Oh?

5:58 Speaker 12: Man, you want the short story, the long story?

6:00 Speaker 8: We got time for the long I like. I like

6:02 Speaker 8: long stories. We got we got time.

6:05 Speaker 12: I'll try to not make it too long. But I've

6:08 Speaker 12: got a good buddy that lives up in Rochester, New Hampshire,

6:10 Speaker 12: New York. I'm start New York, right, New York.

6:13 Speaker 4: Yeah.

6:13 Speaker 12: Uh. He was playing in a Dave Matthews tribute band

6:16 Speaker 12: way way back, you know, before tribute bands were really popular. Yeah,

6:19 Speaker 12: and I have to say, you know, when I was

6:20 Speaker 12: in high school, we didn't call them tribute bands. We

6:23 Speaker 12: called them clone bands. Really, we looked down on it.

6:26 Speaker 11: We did.

6:27 Speaker 12: It's not cool to be in a tribute band. It

6:29 Speaker 12: was not something I wanted to do. But I am

6:31 Speaker 12: a Neil Young fan. Yeah, playing his music forever. So

6:34 Speaker 12: he uh made me come down and see these guys,

6:36 Speaker 12: and I just couldn't believe it. There was people were

6:39 Speaker 12: going crazy for it, So that planted the seed. Uh

6:43 Speaker 12: interesting story. Chucky had a kind of a relationship with

6:46 Speaker 12: Brad Delp from the band Boston. He did some recording

6:49 Speaker 12: in his home studios years ago. So one late night

6:53 Speaker 12: I was in uh Duncan Donuts and Lawrence Mass at

6:56 Speaker 12: like two in the morning, and who walks in but

6:58 Speaker 12: Brad Delt the guitar player and he was doing the

7:01 Speaker 12: Beetlejuice thing. Oh no kidding, So he had true to

7:05 Speaker 12: his reputation. He sat and talked to me for thirty

7:08 Speaker 12: forty minutes.

7:08 Speaker 8: For people who don't know, Beetle Juice was, of course

7:10 Speaker 8: the tribute to the Beatles.

7:13 Speaker 12: The Bread did and Who's Who's the leasing or Boston

7:15 Speaker 12: and a tribute band. Yeah, so that kind of opened

7:18 Speaker 12: up my you know, my mind to say, well, you

7:21 Speaker 12: know it is cool because he was a huge Beatles fan,

7:24 Speaker 12: so we came into it that way. Yeah, and I

7:28 Speaker 12: had to go. I had to round up Chucky because

7:30 Speaker 12: we played in the band when I was eighteen and

7:33 Speaker 12: I hadn't seen him for years.

7:34 Speaker 8: Oh no kidding.

7:35 Speaker 12: I tracked him down he was doing a gig in

7:36 Speaker 12: Boston and oh wow, hey, would you be interested? He says,

7:39 Speaker 12: I would. He says, I'm not leading any more bands,

7:41 Speaker 12: but if you want to lead it, then we'll do it.

7:43 Speaker 8: Oh, no kidding.

7:44 Speaker 10: Yeah, I had taken on my first day job at

7:46 Speaker 10: that point, so I you know, I used to play

7:48 Speaker 10: full time but then had a kid. Yeah, life changes.

7:51 Speaker 8: Yeah.

7:52 Speaker 10: Yeah, that kid was Nat who was here in your

7:54 Speaker 10: studio perfect.

7:55 Speaker 4: Yeah.

7:55 Speaker 8: Well I'm glad you had him.

7:56 Speaker 10: Yeah too, and I'm glad the bug bit him too.

8:00 Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely.

8:02 Speaker 12: Kind of the story for us. You know, it's like

8:05 Speaker 12: because I went to Berkeley for three years and Chucky

8:07 Speaker 12: was out there writing original music, and you know, we

8:10 Speaker 12: wanted to do it, but we were also starting to

8:13 Speaker 12: raise families. It's not really a practical lifestyle. So I

8:17 Speaker 12: think we fall into that category of you know, I

8:20 Speaker 12: don't know if i'd even call a semi pro, but

8:22 Speaker 12: we just we want to do it. We still want

8:24 Speaker 12: to do it, yeah, even twenty five years later, So

8:27 Speaker 12: we just make it work the best way we can.

8:29 Speaker 8: Yeah.

8:29 Speaker 10: We do it because we love it, not to make

8:32 Speaker 10: a living doing it.

8:33 Speaker 12: Right, yeah, Back back then it was about that. But

8:35 Speaker 12: then we smartened up. We had to get kicked in

8:37 Speaker 12: the head a few times along the way. I did anymore.

8:40 Speaker 12: What do you mean, just like you can't make it's

8:42 Speaker 12: hard to make a living? Yeah, yeah, going to make

8:44 Speaker 12: big sacrifice, right.

8:47 Speaker 10: I missed a chunk of Nate's earliest years. I was

8:50 Speaker 10: still full time going at it, and I missed so much.

8:53 Speaker 10: Let's choice you gotta make. Yeah, yeah, of course I

8:55 Speaker 10: know I made the right one.

8:56 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And so Rena, how did you?

9:00 Speaker 8: How did you come to be in the band?

9:02 Speaker 9: Yeah, A really good friend of mine, Rob Hamilton. He's

9:05 Speaker 9: the pedal steel player in the band, okay, keyboardists. He's

9:09 Speaker 9: a multi talented instrumentalist, and we were good friends. We

9:14 Speaker 9: were playing in a band that was kind of starting

9:16 Speaker 9: to disband a little bit, and so they were looking

9:19 Speaker 9: for some harmonies while Chuck was on the road with

9:21 Speaker 9: a Bow's gig, and so I came in to start

9:25 Speaker 9: singing some harmonies. And I was just doing a couple

9:28 Speaker 9: songs a gig, hanging out, you know, showing up at

9:30 Speaker 9: gigs and filling in, and then these guys kind of

9:34 Speaker 9: adopted me in and I've been with them ever since.

9:37 Speaker 8: Outstanding, Yeah, outstanding. Yeah, let's play this. Let's know this

9:41 Speaker 8: is this is really good too. Yeah. Oh and actually

9:43 Speaker 8: before I play it, tell us about this? How did

9:46 Speaker 8: how did you guys get to play it at Daryl's

9:48 Speaker 8: House club? That's so cool.

9:50 Speaker 12: I don't I don't remember somebody reached out to us.

9:53 Speaker 12: I kind of think somebody did.

9:54 Speaker 10: Yeah, oh yeah, it was in their early going.

9:57 Speaker 12: Yeah, we were. We played at the Iron Horse, Northampton,

9:59 Speaker 12: and the the guy that used to book that room

10:02 Speaker 12: went over and was booking that room. Yeah, oh okay, yeah,

10:04 Speaker 12: and that was a big I mean, it was a

10:05 Speaker 12: throw for us. It was because I watched I've watched

10:08 Speaker 12: the show, so to be in that room was pretty cool.

10:10 Speaker 14: Yeah.

10:11 Speaker 8: So for people who don't know, of course, well everybody

10:13 Speaker 8: knows live at Darrel's House the show, but Daryl holl

10:16 Speaker 8: owns a club called I guess it's called Darrel's House

10:18 Speaker 8: Club Luby and and uh and so you guys got

10:21 Speaker 8: to play Yeah that's awesome.

10:22 Speaker 9: A couple of times.

10:23 Speaker 8: Oh really yeah, oh.

10:24 Speaker 10: No, masterful job producing those video and audio. It was

10:28 Speaker 10: like top not I can imagine.

10:30 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, you know what everybody asked us after that

10:32 Speaker 12: show was daryld here.

10:37 Speaker 8: I know, I always wondering about that, like how often

10:39 Speaker 8: is he actually there?

10:40 Speaker 9: He actually played the night after us because we played

10:43 Speaker 9: New Year's Weekend.

10:44 Speaker 8: Oh no, kidding, played the night after.

10:45 Speaker 10: And I've heard from others who have been there that

10:47 Speaker 10: he does pop in quite frequently.

10:49 Speaker 8: Oh okay, okay, interesting, interesting, all right, So let's give

10:52 Speaker 8: this a listen. So this is See the Sky About

10:55 Speaker 8: to Rain. You played this at UH live at Darryl's

10:59 Speaker 8: House club. Yeah, we'll give this a listen and we'll

11:01 Speaker 8: figure out the mike situation because I'm dying here. You

11:03 Speaker 8: play live, but so stick with us. But yeah, Russ

11:07 Speaker 8: never sleeps.

11:23 Speaker 5: See the Sky about to rain, Rogan clouds and rain.

11:36 Speaker 15: Local modeo cool a train, miston low and through my

11:46 Speaker 15: brain signals cling on the.

11:56 Speaker 16: Low down the track again, See the sky about to raise.

12:28 Speaker 1: Some are bound for have been as, some.

12:35 Speaker 2: Are bound for a blow. Some are bound to lead.

12:44 Speaker 5: With lass.

12:48 Speaker 3: Who can tell your story or rape?

12:55 Speaker 16: See the sky bounce, rain, walking, clouds.

13:03 Speaker 15: And rain, look on.

13:10 Speaker 2: Through the train, whistle through that brain signs, curning on

13:23 Speaker 2: it over the rolling down the track again. See the

13:34 Speaker 2: sky boat.

14:12 Speaker 17: I was down in.

14:14 Speaker 18: Dixie, l.

14:18 Speaker 2: Lad of seilver Face.

14:25 Speaker 19: Waited loud and then the moth.

14:31 Speaker 3: Rocking down on me.

14:37 Speaker 2: See the sky.

14:40 Speaker 8: To Oh that is so good. That is so good.

15:08 Speaker 8: See the sky about to rain. Russ Never Sleeps live

15:11 Speaker 8: at Darryl's House Club. Yeah, and I encourage everyone to

15:13 Speaker 8: check out the video. You know, we were kind of

15:14 Speaker 8: talking off here about what a professional job they do

15:17 Speaker 8: there and yeah, yeah, fantastic. Well we have Russ Never

15:20 Speaker 8: Sleeps here live in studio Downe. Hear them play live.

15:22 Speaker 8: So we had a little issue with the microphones, but

15:24 Speaker 8: I think we're good. So let's let me get that

15:28 Speaker 8: one up and let's see. Oh, you know what, hang on,

15:34 Speaker 8: I'm sorry here it is. Oh that sounds nice.

15:39 Speaker 10: What do you think perfect?

15:40 Speaker 8: Perfect? All right, Kenny, let's get your guitar up there.

15:46 Speaker 8: Oh that sounds really nice. Do you want to play

15:51 Speaker 8: a little bit of something just so I can get

15:52 Speaker 8: make sure our levels are uh are good? Here? Oh

15:58 Speaker 8: I know that songer. Oh that sounds good. I want

16:07 Speaker 8: to get a little vocals in there too. Just make sure.

16:12 Speaker 3: You wanna leave. I wanna gill. I've been a minor

16:19 Speaker 3: fur a horror of gold.

16:23 Speaker 5: It's banning my mind talk fine.

16:29 Speaker 3: That keeps me searching for a hard and I'm kidding.

16:38 Speaker 8: All right, I think we're How does it sound to you?

16:41 Speaker 8: All good?

16:43 Speaker 13: Great?

16:43 Speaker 8: I think we're good? All right? All right, russ Ever sleeps.

16:45 Speaker 8: This year, they're gonna perform live for us. What are

16:47 Speaker 8: you uh? What are you gonna play for us?

16:49 Speaker 12: Arena? Sing Dylan tune?

16:51 Speaker 8: Okay.

16:51 Speaker 12: Now you know, we've only been doing the Dylan thing

16:53 Speaker 12: for about a year and a half added into the Neil,

16:55 Speaker 12: so we've been doing a the Music of Dylan and

16:58 Speaker 12: Young show.

16:59 Speaker 8: Okay.

17:00 Speaker 12: There's are a lot of reasons that works and it goes.

17:03 Speaker 10: Together, which is what we're doing at the Rex by

17:05 Speaker 10: the way.

17:05 Speaker 12: Right, we're gonna be at the Wreck.

17:07 Speaker 8: Oh we gotta plug that, yeah, yeah, and we'll remind

17:09 Speaker 8: people later, but yeah, let's plug that right now too

17:11 Speaker 8: for people just tuning in.

17:12 Speaker 12: March twenty eighth.

17:13 Speaker 10: Okay, two weeks from today.

17:14 Speaker 8: Oh wow at the Rex Theater.

17:16 Speaker 12: Yeah, seven thirty excellent. We've been there a few times.

17:19 Speaker 12: It's a great venue. Yeah, intimate, intimate theater.

17:22 Speaker 10: I'd go one of the coolest green rooms if you

17:25 Speaker 10: want to call it that. It's like this area right

17:27 Speaker 10: behind the curtain on the stage. Yeah, and you know,

17:30 Speaker 10: and then a couple of dressing rooms, but a little

17:32 Speaker 10: unique in that regard.

17:33 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's good, nice, real nice stage good sounds. Yeah, okay, yeah,

17:38 Speaker 12: so get out and get those tickets.

17:41 Speaker 8: Absolutely all right, the Rex Theater on the twenty eighth,

17:44 Speaker 8: March twentyeth March twenty eighth, outstanding, all right. Russ Never

17:48 Speaker 8: Sleeps is here with us, here with us live and studio,

17:50 Speaker 8: And what are you gonna play?

17:52 Speaker 12: We'll do knocking on Heaven's stone.

17:54 Speaker 8: Oh nice, knocking on Heaven's door, all right, whenever you're ready.

18:28 Speaker 20: Mamma, take this paunch of them me. I can't use

18:36 Speaker 20: it anymore. Scared and dog to duck to see. Feels

18:49 Speaker 20: like I'm knocking on eavystore. Don't knock knock it on eavenstore.

19:03 Speaker 20: I'm not knocking on heaven'store. Nothing not knocking on Heaven's store.

19:17 Speaker 20: I'm nothing knocking on heaven'store. Mama, put these guns in

19:27 Speaker 20: the ground. I can't shoot them anymore. That long black

19:40 Speaker 20: cloud is going down now now, hell, then I'm.

19:47 Speaker 11: Knocking on Heaven's store. I'm not knocking on Heaven's store.

20:00 Speaker 11: Why not knocking on Heaven's store? Why not knocking on

20:09 Speaker 11: even store? Not I'm knock at all Heaven store. Why

20:50 Speaker 11: not knocking on Heaven's store? Why not knocking on Eppings store?

21:05 Speaker 11: Knock on Heaven.

21:11 Speaker 21: Not Heaven?

21:46 Speaker 8: Good Lord? Those harmonies oh so good, absolutely fantastic. Oh,

21:53 Speaker 8: if you're just joining us, we have rest never sleeps

21:55 Speaker 8: here with us live in studio and uh oh that

21:57 Speaker 8: sounded so good. And Chuck, Now, I now I know

21:59 Speaker 8: what you met because you you know, you were saying

22:00 Speaker 8: when we were kind of getting set up and trying

22:02 Speaker 8: to figure everything out as far as Mike's you know

22:05 Speaker 8: that that the harmonies are the main thing. Indeed, and

22:08 Speaker 8: I see what you mean.

22:10 Speaker 10: That's what we work the most on for sure.

22:12 Speaker 13: Yeah.

22:13 Speaker 8: Yeah, Now, the three of you sound amazing together when

22:16 Speaker 8: you when you play live with the full band. Is

22:18 Speaker 8: it always the three of you harmonizing or are there

22:22 Speaker 8: other band members also singing with you?

22:24 Speaker 10: Or there are like our bass player kicks in a

22:27 Speaker 10: lot of times, like Kenny O vamp on a melody

22:29 Speaker 10: thing while we're doing a three part harmony in the background. Okay,

22:33 Speaker 10: so much fun. Okay, And does Rob ever sing no.

22:37 Speaker 9: No now he's too busy, right, yeah, using both hands

22:42 Speaker 9: and both beat. Mikey Garren he's our bass player and

22:45 Speaker 9: he does he does do some vocals with us sometimes.

22:48 Speaker 8: Okay, okay, very cool, Kenny. So you had said earlier that,

22:53 Speaker 8: you know, incorporating Dylan into the Neil Young material, that

22:57 Speaker 8: that works really well for several reasons. So I'm curious

23:00 Speaker 8: if you can expand on that.

23:01 Speaker 12: You know, I think mainly the singer songwriter thing. Those

23:03 Speaker 12: two artists really respect each other, I think, and you know,

23:08 Speaker 12: Neil has kind of not hidden the fact that he's

23:11 Speaker 12: kind of based his career in many ways off of Dylan, sure,

23:15 Speaker 12: and in his work ethic and you know, kind of

23:17 Speaker 12: his approach that these guys kind of approach it like

23:20 Speaker 12: a painter. They put out a lot of material and

23:22 Speaker 12: they don't expect it all to be good, but you

23:24 Speaker 12: know they're going to hit gold with a lot of it. So,

23:26 Speaker 12: oh yeah, when you think of some artists that have three,

23:28 Speaker 12: four or five albums, and these guys have like thirty

23:32 Speaker 12: some odd albums and they're just putting it out and

23:34 Speaker 12: they're they're they're following the muse man, they're looking to

23:37 Speaker 12: the inspiration, and I mean that's and in a lot

23:40 Speaker 12: of ways, I think for us as a live band,

23:42 Speaker 12: that's that's why we I wouldn't be able to do

23:44 Speaker 12: it for twenty five years if we were trying to

23:46 Speaker 12: do exact renditions of the songs. Sometimes it kind of

23:50 Speaker 12: pans out that way a little bit, or people think

23:52 Speaker 12: it does, but more often than not, we do what

23:55 Speaker 12: they do. They play their own songs in very different ways,

23:58 Speaker 12: so well, you know, we're still musicians that are expressing

24:02 Speaker 12: ourselves through that music like a bunch of people sitting playing.

24:06 Speaker 10: In the you know, symphony orchestra right right, or a

24:10 Speaker 10: bunch of people sitting in a living room somewhere. It

24:12 Speaker 10: is often how it feels to me when we're playing

24:14 Speaker 10: in a theater, even just like we could just as

24:17 Speaker 10: well be gamming in someone's living room. And that's I

24:19 Speaker 10: think what our audience appreciates as well. It's a very

24:22 Speaker 10: intimate thing for you.

24:23 Speaker 9: You can always tell that we're that we're loving it,

24:26 Speaker 9: so it really brings them in with us. We've always

24:28 Speaker 9: had that vibe with the with the audience.

24:31 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent in terms of you know, because

24:35 Speaker 8: you mentioned Kenny that you know, they're they're still active.

24:39 Speaker 8: When when you're choosing, when you're figuring out what to

24:42 Speaker 8: cover of these artists like Bob Dylan and Neil Young,

24:44 Speaker 8: do you ever I mean, do you kind of say, Okay,

24:49 Speaker 8: we're just going to do the classic stuff or are

24:51 Speaker 8: you ever? Is it ever a question of Kenny's a

24:53 Speaker 8: vault man.

24:55 Speaker 10: Yeah, he's also the king of audibles. We never know

24:59 Speaker 10: what we're gonna.

24:59 Speaker 8: Play, no kidding.

25:02 Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, I kind of I go by this

25:07 Speaker 12: rule because I kind of because I have to. Yeah,

25:10 Speaker 12: I have to be inspired to want to play those

25:12 Speaker 12: particular songs. So if we have a show coming up,

25:15 Speaker 12: I'm starting to think about it, I might sketch out

25:17 Speaker 12: a set list and I'm thinking listening to different things

25:20 Speaker 12: and and that's how I come to it. And I'm

25:23 Speaker 12: really if I ever going to do a song because

25:26 Speaker 12: we should? Okay, now I've taken some heat for that really,

25:30 Speaker 12: and you know, and I get it. I get there

25:31 Speaker 12: are certain songs that people like to hear. But for

25:34 Speaker 12: the most part, I mean, that's been us, that's that's

25:38 Speaker 12: that's that's just who we are, you know, And and

25:40 Speaker 12: that way, for me, it can be authentic every time

25:43 Speaker 12: we play it still.

25:44 Speaker 9: Never played the very rarely have we ever played like

25:47 Speaker 9: the same show twice. I've no seat tribute bands and

25:49 Speaker 9: you can almost tell and I know what's next. Yeah,

25:54 Speaker 9: and this one's very different. This one you always and

25:57 Speaker 9: then you've got some classics in there, people that people love,

26:01 Speaker 9: so they always get a chance to hear something that

26:04 Speaker 9: they love.

26:04 Speaker 10: They also get to hear obscurities that you don't often

26:07 Speaker 10: hear on the radio or on you know.

26:11 Speaker 12: I say, you have tell a funny story about that.

26:13 Speaker 10: Uh.

26:13 Speaker 12: There's a a Neil tune that we like to play

26:17 Speaker 12: called big Time and it's it's influenced by the kind

26:20 Speaker 12: of surf guitar guys, especially link Ray and link Ray

26:25 Speaker 12: was famous for a song called Rumble Yes Yes, Okay,

26:27 Speaker 12: So and I kept hearing it. I'm going that man,

26:30 Speaker 12: Rumble is in big Time. So we started doing shows.

26:33 Speaker 12: We would open with Rumble and we go right into

26:35 Speaker 12: big Time. So one of our biggest fans, who's a

26:38 Speaker 12: big Neil young fan, has seen Neil a hundred times.

26:40 Speaker 8: Yeah, he calls me up one night and.

26:41 Speaker 12: He goes, hey, I saw that Neil tune on a

26:44 Speaker 12: commercial on the radio, and that's not even possible. Neil

26:47 Speaker 12: doesn't And it turned out it was rumble on a

26:49 Speaker 12: on a lawn seed commercial. But we tricked him. We

26:53 Speaker 12: tricked the guy that knows Neil really well.

26:55 Speaker 8: You know, yeah, Oh that's wild, that's wild, do you

27:01 Speaker 8: I mean for the most part, Well, let me ask

27:03 Speaker 8: it this way. Are there any songs Neil Young songs

27:05 Speaker 8: or Dylan songs that you've done where they become very different?

27:08 Speaker 8: I mean you obviously you kind of do them in

27:09 Speaker 8: your own way, but I mean, are there any of that?

27:11 Speaker 8: Like I guess what I'm getting to is, has anyone

27:14 Speaker 8: ever had a problem with like coming up to you

27:17 Speaker 8: at a show and saying, hey, you really you know

27:19 Speaker 8: you shouldn't mess with that?

27:20 Speaker 12: You should but never heard it? Well, no, because I

27:23 Speaker 12: think I think anybody that comes to most people to

27:25 Speaker 12: come to a show to see either of Neil or

27:28 Speaker 12: Dylan yeah music, they know that the original artist is

27:32 Speaker 12: famous for doing just the exact.

27:34 Speaker 10: Same that like the record. Yeah.

27:36 Speaker 12: Yeah. Well, there's a very famous story about Neil toured

27:41 Speaker 12: on Time Fades Away album and seventy three seventy four. Yeah,

27:45 Speaker 12: he was, he went out and he toured and he

27:47 Speaker 12: hadn't released the album yet. Okay, so he's out there

27:49 Speaker 12: and he's playing an album's worth of songs. Yeah, oh

27:52 Speaker 12: can you hear me? Okay? Uh so somebody, uh, somebody

27:57 Speaker 12: fissed off and they yell from the front audience, play

28:00 Speaker 12: something we know. So he stops for a minute and

28:03 Speaker 12: he huddles with the band, comes back to the mike.

28:06 Speaker 12: We're gonna play something you've heard before, and they launched

28:08 Speaker 12: to the song they just played.

28:09 Speaker 8: A minute's wild.

28:15 Speaker 12: Now we're not we're not looking to do anything like that.

28:17 Speaker 10: Not looking to spite anyone, but we haven't.

28:19 Speaker 12: Gotten I've never heard anybody.

28:21 Speaker 10: They seem to enjoy that. We're just running with it.

28:24 Speaker 10: This is tonight's version. And I think that's part of

28:27 Speaker 10: why we got some folks like Nat and a few

28:29 Speaker 10: others that come to near every show. They don't get

28:32 Speaker 10: bored because they're not hearing the same thing over and

28:34 Speaker 10: over again.

28:35 Speaker 9: We do have people that come and come back and

28:37 Speaker 9: it's just awesome. Yeah, and they've come they've become part

28:40 Speaker 9: of like our family too, like some really good friends.

28:43 Speaker 9: Out of some of the fans that.

28:44 Speaker 10: Have come shut yeah goodness, Yeah, well we Mark and

28:49 Speaker 10: Eileen said.

28:50 Speaker 12: Yeah, we don't. We mentioned we mentioned Rob I want

28:53 Speaker 12: to shout out.

28:54 Speaker 8: The rest of the guys of the Yeah yeah absolutely.

28:56 Speaker 12: Steel and piano, and we mentioned Mike Garren, yeah on bass.

29:00 Speaker 12: But we have a new drummer this past year, Matt Smalley.

29:03 Speaker 12: And he's a young guy. Yeah, and he's kicking us

29:05 Speaker 12: right down the highway. It's good to have young energy

29:08 Speaker 12: in the dance.

29:09 Speaker 9: I used to be the youngest. Now I've been.

29:10 Speaker 12: Really But the cool thing about him is he is

29:13 Speaker 12: really deep into this type of music. He knows, he's

29:16 Speaker 12: a real.

29:17 Speaker 10: Student of it. He's shedding too. You can tell he's

29:20 Speaker 10: listening to, you know, all the different people that like

29:24 Speaker 10: crazy horse versions whatever, like he wants to really know

29:28 Speaker 10: this stuff. You can tell when he comes to rehearsal

29:30 Speaker 10: that he's been shedding.

29:31 Speaker 8: Yeah. Oh wow, Now what what happened to the previous drummer?

29:35 Speaker 8: Because I know that it seems like it's become a

29:37 Speaker 8: running theme on the show. Every drummer is in like

29:39 Speaker 8: ten different bands. I'm wondering.

29:42 Speaker 10: Spinal Tap Yeah yeah, yeah.

29:45 Speaker 12: Our longtime drummer Jeremy was, you know, amazing drummer and

29:49 Speaker 12: it's a great guy. All around out Western Massa.

29:53 Speaker 10: He plays with Danny Klein.

29:54 Speaker 22: Yeah, he plays with the bass player founder w Okay,

30:00 Speaker 22: so it's I think the travel got to be a lot. Yeah,

30:04 Speaker 22: so you know it's I wouldn't be surprised we play

30:06 Speaker 22: with him again in the future by Hope.

30:08 Speaker 10: So but yeah, it's no offense to Matt Small just

30:11 Speaker 10: the way it is now.

30:12 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he put it.

30:14 Speaker 12: He put in twenty years so oh.

30:16 Speaker 8: Okay, he put in some time. Then, yeah, put in

30:18 Speaker 8: some time. Wow. Wow was it well? So after twenty years,

30:22 Speaker 8: was it scary having to find a new drummer.

30:24 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, to know because it worked so seamlessly. Yea,

30:29 Speaker 10: it might have been scary thinking about it to do it.

30:32 Speaker 9: There are just certain fills and stuff that you get

30:35 Speaker 9: used to, you know, in certain drives and now, but

30:38 Speaker 9: it kind of brings this new energy, you know, playing

30:40 Speaker 9: with Matt and kind of feeling a new way of

30:43 Speaker 9: of doing interpretating the songs. He definitely Matt has this

30:47 Speaker 9: like classic feel, like you said, you can tell he's

30:49 Speaker 9: been studying this stuff. So but definitely, like over time

30:53 Speaker 9: you start to kind of expect certain fills and things

30:56 Speaker 9: like that, right, So that's changed. But Matt's holding it

30:59 Speaker 9: down really well for us.

31:01 Speaker 12: And you know, it's a huge part of being in

31:04 Speaker 12: this band is not just your musicianship. It's like, are

31:08 Speaker 12: you a good hang right?

31:09 Speaker 8: Right?

31:10 Speaker 12: You shit with us? Like the vibe is it just

31:12 Speaker 12: uh whatever our vibe is. I could, I could describe it,

31:15 Speaker 12: but I mean, it just has to kind of fit.

31:17 Speaker 8: Yeah, of course. Yeah.

31:18 Speaker 12: That's probably as important as a musicianship.

31:21 Speaker 8: Oh not more, but equal. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

31:24 Speaker 12: We've been lucky that way.

31:25 Speaker 8: Yeah. Oh, that's really good. That's really good. If you

31:27 Speaker 8: are just joining us. Russ Never Sleeps is with us?

31:29 Speaker 8: You want to play another one? I'm dying to hear.

31:31 Speaker 8: I'm dying to hear more of those harmonies are just

31:33 Speaker 8: incredible to me.

31:36 Speaker 12: Okay, we'll do a little uh long may you Run?

31:41 Speaker 19: All right, we've been through some things together.

32:19 Speaker 3: With trunks of memories.

32:22 Speaker 12: Still beclm.

32:27 Speaker 5: We found things to do in stormy weather, Long Maid,

32:40 Speaker 5: Long Mad Run, Long may you Run.

32:47 Speaker 3: Although these changes have come.

32:54 Speaker 5: If you chrome hardshine and in the sun.

33:01 Speaker 2: Long bid back in Blind River.

33:18 Speaker 5: Nineteen sixty two when I last saw you.

33:25 Speaker 2: Line, well, we missed that ship.

33:32 Speaker 21: Long decline, Long by Run, long may run, Long, mad run.

33:50 Speaker 3: Although these changes have come?

33:56 Speaker 5: Did you chrome, hard shine in the sun.

34:04 Speaker 4: Long name.

34:45 Speaker 19: Maybe the beach boys have.

34:48 Speaker 3: Got you now.

34:52 Speaker 5: With all those waves singing Caroline in.

35:01 Speaker 3: Those empty ocean roads.

35:06 Speaker 14: Get into the surf fun time, Long made run, Long

35:17 Speaker 14: made you run.

35:20 Speaker 3: Although these changes have come.

35:27 Speaker 5: You chrome heart shine and in the sun.

35:34 Speaker 17: Long may run, Long made run, Long made.

35:45 Speaker 3: You run, Although these changes have come with your chrome

35:55 Speaker 3: heart shine and.

35:58 Speaker 2: In the sun.

36:02 Speaker 13: Long, Oh my god, so good.

36:13 Speaker 8: Russ never sleeps alive in studio here, and that's amazing.

36:18 Speaker 8: By the way, you got a compliment from Peter White,

36:21 Speaker 8: who just texted me. Peter is of course host of

36:23 Speaker 8: the Morning Show with Peter White, which you can hear

36:25 Speaker 8: weekday mornings from seven to nine am here at WM

36:27 Speaker 8: and H, but he also is a program director here

36:30 Speaker 8: and yeah, he just texted me and said, you guys

36:32 Speaker 8: sound really good. So Peter than you absolutely absolutely if

36:36 Speaker 8: you are just joining us, of course we have rest

36:38 Speaker 8: never sleeps here with us alive in studio. And is

36:42 Speaker 8: there a favorite like within or maybe you each have

36:44 Speaker 8: your own. I'm curious if if you have favorites that

36:47 Speaker 8: you play live that you're.

36:48 Speaker 12: Get that's a common question. It changes for me a lot.

36:52 Speaker 12: But I guess the tune I mentioned before Big Time

36:55 Speaker 12: is kind of really just because of the message of it.

36:57 Speaker 10: You know. Yeah, it's like asking what's your favorite color.

37:00 Speaker 10: It's it's really hard to pin it down. Like you

37:05 Speaker 10: it changes from moment to moment.

37:07 Speaker 9: Yeah, and it depends like what we're playing at the time.

37:10 Speaker 9: If something news coming up and we've really meshed on

37:13 Speaker 9: it and stuff, we get excited to play it.

37:16 Speaker 10: For me.

37:17 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, this is our new favorite. For my classic favorite,

37:21 Speaker 9: I would say comes the time, just because it's the

37:23 Speaker 9: first one I did with the band, and it's just

37:26 Speaker 9: kind of, you know, always stuck with me and my

37:29 Speaker 9: kids too. So my kids were like babies when I

37:32 Speaker 9: joined this band, and so they grew up with it,

37:35 Speaker 9: so they you know, it's just it just became like

37:38 Speaker 9: this family song, but because of me being a rust

37:41 Speaker 9: So it's pretty cool.

37:42 Speaker 8: Oh, very cool. Is there anything that's been particularly challenging

37:47 Speaker 8: to learn?

37:50 Speaker 9: How many sometimes you know.

37:52 Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm going to say, actually with the Dylan stuff,

37:55 Speaker 12: really well not playing it, but it's ten verses and.

38:00 Speaker 8: Okay, you know what's funny about that because this came

38:03 Speaker 8: up on you know, in the second hour when when

38:06 Speaker 8: we had the Pop Farmers on and you know, they

38:08 Speaker 8: do all these Irish songs for for Saint Patrick's Day,

38:12 Speaker 8: and they were talking about how some of those, some

38:15 Speaker 8: of those classic Irish songs are very wordy because they've

38:18 Speaker 8: got like, you know, there's one I think they do,

38:20 Speaker 8: it's got like seven or eight verses to it, and

38:22 Speaker 8: and and how that can be challenging. So so that's

38:25 Speaker 8: trying not.

38:26 Speaker 10: To do it karaoke style, you know, right.

38:29 Speaker 19: Right, that is good.

38:31 Speaker 9: We do have some verses long my god.

38:34 Speaker 8: Yeah.

38:34 Speaker 10: Yeah, Fortunately they are stories, which makes them easier to remember.

38:38 Speaker 10: And you know most cases, you know, you know I

38:40 Speaker 10: Tangled Up and Blues a great example. Yeah, yeah, a

38:42 Speaker 10: lot of verses, but it's a story. Yeah, you've heard

38:46 Speaker 10: it and you know the story. Yeah, tend to stick

38:49 Speaker 10: a little easier.

38:50 Speaker 8: Yeah, like like what's the one like the wordiest Dylan's

38:56 Speaker 8: and hard Rain Yeah, yeah, definitely crazy you ever you

39:01 Speaker 8: ever play them live and forget the words?

39:02 Speaker 12: Oh you know, I'm gonna get little aids. Yeah, and

39:06 Speaker 12: I you know, years ago I saw Elvis Costello doing

39:09 Speaker 12: a show, yeah, and it was yeah, two big music

39:12 Speaker 12: stands with books on him. You know, it was his

39:14 Speaker 12: own music. Yeah, so he had some aids. I said,

39:17 Speaker 12: that's not such a bad thing if you need it,

39:19 Speaker 12: you know.

39:19 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, of course of course. And then like,

39:24 Speaker 8: what's uh so the songs that you started, because again

39:27 Speaker 8: you've been is twenty five years thereabouts, the way that

39:33 Speaker 8: you play some of those, because I assume the songs

39:36 Speaker 8: that you played in the beginning you're still playing, right, Yeah,

39:38 Speaker 8: sure a lot of them. Have those kind of evolved

39:40 Speaker 8: in terms of how you approach.

39:42 Speaker 10: Them, sure, sometimes a little bit, not in huge ways.

39:45 Speaker 12: Yeah, but I mean we're testing went off for the

39:47 Speaker 12: next show that we haven't played in a long time. Really, yeah,

39:49 Speaker 12: so that'll be surprised.

39:51 Speaker 10: Giving okay, okay, yeah, but by that, I mean they

39:56 Speaker 10: don't change drastically. But tonight I felt different than I

40:00 Speaker 10: the last time we played it. So my little part

40:02 Speaker 10: is going to be different. And that's everybody in the

40:05 Speaker 10: bands playing off of each other, right, Their nuances the change,

40:09 Speaker 10: but not major ways. Sometimes we've come up with a

40:12 Speaker 10: different groove trying to differently.

40:15 Speaker 9: H will change. We'll play around with the rhythm sometimes.

40:18 Speaker 12: And sometimes we have a slow version.

40:20 Speaker 8: We have a fast version yeah, yeah.

40:23 Speaker 10: And sometimes that's not on you know, that's not planned, right.

40:28 Speaker 8: I'm also curious if any of the Neil Young stuff

40:30 Speaker 8: is hard to play from a guitar perspective, because I

40:34 Speaker 8: don't know, like the solos. Some of his solos are

40:37 Speaker 8: so weird.

40:39 Speaker 10: I love it.

40:40 Speaker 8: Kenny.

40:41 Speaker 10: Kenny does a lot more shotting on how Neil would

40:43 Speaker 10: approach that, and then he lets me do what I do.

40:46 Speaker 10: Oh really, I don't feel like a crazy horse guy

40:48 Speaker 10: when I get to a solo. I just play what

40:51 Speaker 10: you know, I don't read, I don't you know. I

40:53 Speaker 10: have to just wing it because I've been doing that

40:55 Speaker 10: since I was a kid. And uh, it's nice to

40:58 Speaker 10: have that kind of you do the same.

41:01 Speaker 12: Yeah, but I tend to. I tend to in the

41:02 Speaker 12: rock tunes anyway. I have that sound you hit kind

41:06 Speaker 12: of an amplifier.

41:07 Speaker 10: On your black lest Paul, You're hitting that Bigsby and

41:09 Speaker 10: I'd swear sometimes and I'm listening to Neil you play.

41:12 Speaker 9: Yeah. It's one of my favorite parts of this of

41:14 Speaker 9: when we play out listening to them play yeah, yeah, yeah,

41:19 Speaker 9: it's definitely a tree yeah yeah. But Kenny gets that sound,

41:24 Speaker 9: that raw, you know, dirty Neil Young tune and it's

41:28 Speaker 9: just really good.

41:29 Speaker 10: A lot of folks just compare it to the Stills

41:32 Speaker 10: Young okay interaction from back in the day. Really, but

41:35 Speaker 10: when we listen to it back, you know, recordings or whatever,

41:38 Speaker 10: I get the similarities, but it's so different. It's us.

41:40 Speaker 8: Yeah.

41:41 Speaker 10: Yeah, we're not trying to be them, Yeah, of course.

41:44 Speaker 12: And I think that's the testament to that we we

41:46 Speaker 12: get we captured the vibe. Yeah, because you know, like

41:49 Speaker 12: I don't sound like Neil Young, but a lot of

41:51 Speaker 12: people think it's dead on, but no, if you listen

41:53 Speaker 12: to it side by side, it isn't. But there's something

41:55 Speaker 12: about it that I get.

41:56 Speaker 8: Well that's what I was curious about, because I mean,

41:58 Speaker 8: it's one thing to get the tone, but there's another

42:00 Speaker 8: thing to actually play like him, right, because I don't know,

42:03 Speaker 8: I can't think of anybody else who plays like him,

42:06 Speaker 8: you know what I mean? And I don't even know

42:08 Speaker 8: how to maybe you know you probably do. I don't

42:10 Speaker 8: even know how to describe. Like if somebody were ask me, well,

42:12 Speaker 8: how does Neil Young play a guitar solo? I wouldn't

42:14 Speaker 8: know how to even describe it.

42:17 Speaker 12: There was a Rolling Stone interview or No. It was

42:20 Speaker 12: a review of one of his albums back in the day,

42:22 Speaker 12: you know. It was one of his rock tunes. I

42:24 Speaker 12: think it was like a hurricane, and the person writing

42:29 Speaker 12: the article said, it sounds like a down power line

42:33 Speaker 12: snapping off the ground, you know, like that, that sounds

42:36 Speaker 12: pretty good. And I found out later that he had

42:38 Speaker 12: been listening to a lot of John Coltrane, Okay, and

42:41 Speaker 12: it's very kind of anastic. Oh that that got into

42:44 Speaker 12: his head and got into his.

42:45 Speaker 10: Play you can hear that.

42:47 Speaker 12: Yeah, sure, absolutely, And I think his musical beings were

42:51 Speaker 12: all like that. We kind of absorbed different things and

42:54 Speaker 12: it comes out in our own little way, you know.

42:56 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Is there a crowd favorite? Is there?

43:00 Speaker 8: Is there anything particular that you all play that you notice?

43:03 Speaker 10: Harvest Moon? They love Harvest Moon.

43:06 Speaker 9: No, they always ask for it, for sure.

43:10 Speaker 8: We don't always play that one now.

43:11 Speaker 9: But one one crowd favorite too is Cowgirl in the Sand.

43:15 Speaker 10: Yeah, because of the jam.

43:16 Speaker 9: Yeah, because of that jam, se.

43:19 Speaker 8: Man, we do play this okay, okay, Yeah.

43:22 Speaker 9: And then once in a while they'll get a treat.

43:24 Speaker 9: We'll do rocking in the Free World, and oh, everyone

43:26 Speaker 9: digs that.

43:28 Speaker 10: We've done that. Acoustic handle liqu that's right, really, yeah,

43:31 Speaker 10: and I love both of them. But yeah, that can

43:32 Speaker 10: go twenty minutes.

43:34 Speaker 8: Yeah really yeah.

43:35 Speaker 12: Yeah, there's the first thing about Neil because he's got

43:39 Speaker 12: those two versions out there, they're different from everybody knows.

43:43 Speaker 8: That's nowhere too.

43:44 Speaker 9: That's a popular one that we do.

43:45 Speaker 8: Yeah, oh, very cool, excellent, excellent, So we should remind

43:50 Speaker 8: people too as we get close to the top of

43:52 Speaker 8: the hour. So the show at the Rex, it's on

43:54 Speaker 8: the twenty eighth, March twenty eighth, yes, yeah, okay, And

43:58 Speaker 8: and it's just you, right, it's just Russ and never Care.

44:00 Speaker 10: No opener that we're aware of, because that has happened,

44:04 Speaker 10: so you know you've got an opener tonight.

44:06 Speaker 8: Yeah.

44:06 Speaker 12: And they can go to their website or they can

44:08 Speaker 12: go to our website and link over to it. Were

44:11 Speaker 12: never sleeps dot net?

44:12 Speaker 8: Okay?

44:13 Speaker 10: You know we're on Facebook? Are we on Instagram? I'm

44:15 Speaker 10: not just social media at all.

44:17 Speaker 8: It's a nice website by the way, too. And that

44:19 Speaker 8: might sound like a random compliment, but I'm a I'm

44:21 Speaker 8: a web designer, and so I noticed websites and my

44:25 Speaker 8: filmmaker or oh yeah, no, he did, he did a

44:28 Speaker 8: great job because a lot of a lot of musicians

44:30 Speaker 8: have terrible websites. So I commend you for good pro.

44:34 Speaker 10: You're a lack of a lot of trades. I've seen

44:36 Speaker 10: your bio on the radio site and elsewhere. You're up

44:39 Speaker 10: to a lot of cool stuff.

44:40 Speaker 9: Yeah.

44:42 Speaker 8: Yeah, I never sleep either. I I do have to

44:50 Speaker 8: ask you this because you mentioned it, because I love

44:51 Speaker 8: stories like this, he said. The thing about you, You

44:55 Speaker 8: were presented with an opener that you didn't know you

44:56 Speaker 8: were going to have at a show.

44:57 Speaker 10: That was recently thanks very for example. Really that wonderful

45:01 Speaker 10: room and Maynard Mass the Sectuary And.

45:05 Speaker 12: I'll apologize later, but it wasn't the end of the world.

45:08 Speaker 12: But no, you'd like to know about that one.

45:10 Speaker 10: Well yeah, yeah, and so would our patrons. Well yeah,

45:14 Speaker 10: I like to know, but.

45:16 Speaker 8: We do every now and then.

45:17 Speaker 12: We throw a curveball in there. I mean, we had

45:19 Speaker 12: Arena's daughters open. Yes, that was a lot of fun,

45:24 Speaker 12: you know.

45:24 Speaker 9: Yeah, please, she'll get to do She's actually sat in

45:27 Speaker 9: with the band before for me to.

45:29 Speaker 10: Carena one night and killed it.

45:31 Speaker 12: Yeah, great musicians. She's going to be graduating from Berkeley

45:34 Speaker 12: this year.

45:34 Speaker 9: Oh actually, yeah, she graduates in May from from Berkeley.

45:38 Speaker 9: And but yeah, she sits in for me from time

45:40 Speaker 9: to time. And oh yeah, well who is she?

45:42 Speaker 8: Let's give her a plug?

45:43 Speaker 9: Yeah, Elizabeth Valley, call her best and uh yeah, she

45:46 Speaker 9: does an excellent job. She plays around locally right now

45:50 Speaker 9: though it's she's real busy finishing up at Berkeley. She's

45:53 Speaker 9: got her first album release coming out in April called Sounder,

45:57 Speaker 9: and uh yeah, she's beautiful too.

46:00 Speaker 10: We just did something with the VPC.

46:02 Speaker 9: Yeah, she just played the Pink showcase at the VPC

46:05 Speaker 9: and she was one of the chosen soloists there. And

46:08 Speaker 9: she's got another showcase at Berkeley for George Martin and

46:13 Speaker 9: she's doing Linda Vonstadt's Moon so our Mistress, so wow,

46:17 Speaker 9: yeah it'll be a treat.

46:18 Speaker 8: So well, we'll have to get her on the show.

46:20 Speaker 8: We've had Chuck's son on the show. We need best daughter.

46:24 Speaker 10: Yeah, family guy, I love it.

46:27 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Uh do you have any any children

46:32 Speaker 8: who are musicians?

46:33 Speaker 12: They're not musicians?

46:34 Speaker 8: Okay, no, well, although actually I would like to get

46:37 Speaker 8: your filmmakers son on the show too, because that sounds interesting. Okay, yeah, yeah,

46:41 Speaker 8: we don't. We don't just do music. I mean we

46:42 Speaker 8: do mostly music, but but you know, I just love

46:44 Speaker 8: talking to creative people in general. You know.

46:46 Speaker 10: Just I have three kids, and only one of them

46:48 Speaker 10: got the bug the music, Pug. The other two are

46:50 Speaker 10: hockey players, probably not interviewing hockey.

46:53 Speaker 7: Yeah.

46:53 Speaker 8: I don't know anything about sports ball.

46:57 Speaker 9: My son doesn't play, but he loves it and he's

46:59 Speaker 9: listening to us today too, So.

47:02 Speaker 8: Good, very good. Hello, guess, Hello guests. All right, so

47:05 Speaker 8: we are about out of time. I do want to

47:07 Speaker 8: play one more thing from your YouTube though.

47:10 Speaker 10: Real quick. Before you do, I got to guest shout

47:12 Speaker 10: out to Sick Dude. Hell yeah, my son, Yes, and

47:17 Speaker 10: love both of your interviews here, and thanks for pointing

47:20 Speaker 10: us in this direction.

47:21 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, we love Sick Dude. Hell yeah, absolutely.

47:24 Speaker 10: It's the name death metal duo. They're nuts. They recorded

47:29 Speaker 10: in my basement and I had a blast doing it anyway.

47:31 Speaker 8: Sorry, Oh yeah, you were the engineer on that, right, correct? Yeah? Yeah,

47:36 Speaker 8: what was that? Have you ever done anything like that before,

47:39 Speaker 8: recorded anything like that before?

47:42 Speaker 10: Power du like that?

47:43 Speaker 4: No?

47:43 Speaker 10: No, no, it was the coolest thing too. I mean

47:45 Speaker 10: I have a home studio. Yeah, and we had to

47:48 Speaker 10: put both of Why am I blanking on the bass

47:52 Speaker 10: guitar player's name, I can't remember. See I'm old. I'm

47:57 Speaker 10: getting old.

47:59 Speaker 8: Anyway, if you meet so any musicians.

48:00 Speaker 10: He plays a four string bass through a guitar amp

48:04 Speaker 10: and a bass ampe by way of a little splitter

48:07 Speaker 10: that octaves it, so you'd swear you were hearing two

48:09 Speaker 10: guys that are just locked in.

48:11 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, right.

48:12 Speaker 10: You know what I'm talking about. And in order to

48:15 Speaker 10: pull that off and not just kill the overheads on

48:18 Speaker 10: the drum kit in my meager little space, we used

48:21 Speaker 10: this little cedar storage closet behind my studio, stuck them

48:25 Speaker 10: in there and ran a bunch of cables from there,

48:27 Speaker 10: and it worked like a charm. So I got to

48:29 Speaker 10: learn by way of their project that I have a

48:31 Speaker 10: lot more capability in that mega a little space than Yeah. Yeah,

48:35 Speaker 10: I loved my listening space. It's mostly like I got.

48:38 Speaker 10: I did some acoustic treatment and all that, so I

48:40 Speaker 10: can sort of believe what I'm hearing. Yeah, before we

48:43 Speaker 10: put it out there, and that was just such a

48:47 Speaker 10: fun project. It really was.

48:48 Speaker 8: Oh that's really cool.

48:49 Speaker 10: Yeah, they were very well prepared. Yeah to give them that.

48:53 Speaker 8: No, that's awesome, that's awesome. What should I play? From

48:56 Speaker 8: your YouTube. You got so much good stuff. Do you

48:58 Speaker 8: have any any suggestion you had a lot of good Uh?

49:02 Speaker 8: We played there, we looked on, we played the Darrel's

49:05 Speaker 8: House video. Uh, Rust Never Sleeps performs Motorcycle Mama.

49:09 Speaker 12: Do that one?

49:10 Speaker 8: That's that's also and that's also from uh live at

49:13 Speaker 8: Darryl's House.

49:14 Speaker 10: Yeah, another one featuring Rena on vocal.

49:17 Speaker 8: Yeah, very cool, very cool. I don't know that song.

49:21 Speaker 8: Whose song is that?

49:22 Speaker 12: Is that a Neil?

49:23 Speaker 8: That is a Neil song? I'll probably recognize it as

49:25 Speaker 8: soon as time.

49:26 Speaker 12: Album Okay, okay, originally sung by nicol Let Larson.

49:30 Speaker 8: Oh gotcha, gotcha? Russ Never Sleeps. Thank you all three

49:33 Speaker 8: of you very much, thanks for having so much. Absolutely

49:35 Speaker 8: this has been wonderful and we'll close out with this.

49:38 Speaker 8: This is their rendition of Motorcycle Mama Live at Darrel's

49:40 Speaker 8: House Club Russ Never Sleeps.

50:00 Speaker 2: The cycle Mama.

50:02 Speaker 18: Won't you lay your bits fip down a cycle mother?

50:10 Speaker 18: Won't you play your gate spike downs.

50:18 Speaker 16: Get trouble while I'm laying around or a cycle mama?

50:23 Speaker 2: Won't you lay it down that keep the food? I'm

50:55 Speaker 2: waiting a place.

50:56 Speaker 19: To say.

51:07 Speaker 18: All the cycle Mama want you lay your face spike down.

51:16 Speaker 2: Or the cycle mom, what you lay your face fid down?

51:24 Speaker 18: Always get your trouble when you break out a round.

51:28 Speaker 21: All the cycle mom, what you lay it down?

51:41 Speaker 16: Sat My mother to.

51:49 Speaker 7: This game out.

51:57 Speaker 2: Seeing your bosses already.

52:00 Speaker 7: That is that this is just the time a.

52:14 Speaker 2: Cycle funnel to lay off thanks, five down.

52:20 Speaker 6: Down, a cycle model.

52:24 Speaker 2: To lay on bas five down, oh cycle donne to

52:37 Speaker 2: play it down.