Cryin Caleb | Matt Connarton Unleashed

1:46 Speaker 1: That is very very catchy. I like that a lot that has got a light and that is crying. Caleb, who is here with us morning, Welcome to the show, and of course returning to the show, Darling Hill. Hello, should we call you Darling Hill? Should we call you Kate? What should we call you?

2:00 Speaker 2: I don't mind Darling Hill, I don't mind representation.

2:03 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I've had some people.

2:04 Speaker 2: It's kind of funny and people started calling me Darling, which kind of threw.

2:07 Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, yeah yeah, I.

2:10 Speaker 2: Didn't hate it though. I thought it was kind of cute, right right, So thanks, not the worst thing. And of course, uh, you've you've been doing a lot with the listening room at Prayers of Nature.

2:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, we said, oh you know what too. Before we go any further, let me hold this up for people watching online. I'll hold up this cool sticker you brought us from the listening room at Prayers of Nature.

2:30 Speaker 2: Thank you.

2:30 Speaker 1: So for those who don't know, refresh our memory on our memories collectively, on what that is what you do there.

2:37 Speaker 2: Well, I do want to give a quick shout out to the artist of that picture you've shown is my friend Victoria. Her business name is actually I have Ethereal. She's a tattoo artist in Nashua. She's located under the Riverwalk Cafe. She's fabulous and we just released a couple of new images as she did as well yesterday.

2:54 Speaker 3: Okay, so that's cool.

2:56 Speaker 2: She's been working with me since we started. So I just wanted to create a little space for musicians to come and share their art in a way that is nurturing and celebrating who they are. As I did it years ago out of my home, but I kind of took a break, and as you know, I met you after I came back from Nashville and elevated a little bit and wanted to share that elevation with the artists that I work with locally. So create this small little space and Caleb will be number eleven, so excellent. I started with one.

3:31 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm just going to do one show month.

3:33 Speaker 1: That's it.

3:33 Speaker 2: I don't want to overdo it. I got the small little art studio, and then it turned and do well, since I have the gear out, I'll do two, you know, like a Friday Saturday. And then it turned into oh, i'll do it Thursday, Friday Saturday. So it's still once a month, but it's usually three shows in one weekend, okay, And so yes, Caleb is number eleven. Good And I've had the fortune of having people from not just New Hampshire, but getting the attention from people from Maine and New York and Connecticut basically a little in New England nugget.

4:02 Speaker 2: And once they hear the deal, they either decide to come be a part of it or there they get put on a waiting list because I am fully booked.

4:09 Speaker 1: So oh that's good. Yeah, that's that's a good problem now right.

4:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty interesting. I think people you know, I'm a musician myself, and I do understand. I try to accommodate what I would like, so people who see that, I think it attracts them. And Caleb reached out after Dan Blakesley swung through, Oh yeah, which was real helpful to I don't know if you've heard of him.

4:32 Speaker 1: I interviewed Dan Blakesley a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, a lot, because he's been around a while. Wasn't stopped, Yeah a long time ago.

4:38 Speaker 2: Wow, he hasn't stopped. So yeah, I'm really excited to have another main artist. Or is he from Maine? He's from me. Yeah, so I really like what Maine's doing. So New Hampshire pay attention.

4:51 Speaker 1: Yes, well, what what is Main doing that we're not doing here?

4:54 Speaker 2: I think they're just weirder, Man, They're just weirder. I think it's further north, there's less bs up there. Yeah, there's something going on. Yeah, closer to the sky. I think, ah, interesting, interesting, it's funkier, it's weirder, it's spookier. I think they embrace that a little more so than in this area. I think here is from my perception from what I've seen, is the local music scene here seems to really hyper fixated on like pop country or folk, or like like a heavy metal vibe and even some punk.

5:23 Speaker 2: But I haven't seen this like cool spooky rockability. I don't even know what to call you sometimes, like I know what you are, but trying to articulate it to other people. What Caleb does is well yeah.

5:34 Speaker 1: Cause we were talking off air about how and I was saying, Caleb, how I don't like listening to your and we should tell the audience too, not everything that you obviously is an instrumental We open with an instrumental track, but we're going to play some I love your voice, so I'm looking forward to playing some of the other stuff too. But I can't think of anybody around here who really sounds like you and what you're doing. But so, what do you think it is?

5:55 Speaker 4: Like?

5:55 Speaker 1: What's different about where your area is?

5:59 Speaker 3: Someone's sent me a photo the other day that said inspirational Western sci fi interesting okay, like from a library, and I was like, oh, now I know what to call myself.

6:14 Speaker 2: Spaghetti Western, maybe a.

6:16 Speaker 3: Little spaghetti western rockabilly country blues music I really like and that I've been writing for a long time, and I've played in bands playing music I've written, and I'm proud of, you know, every band I've been in. But I moved to Auburn, Maine after living in Portland for over twenty years, and Auburn, Maine's a little more central Maine, okay, And I didn't really know anyone up there, and getting a band together was just kind of a pain. And then setting up practices in Portland with people willing to play, it was just scheduling stuff.

6:58 Speaker 3: So I just started playing on my own, just using my feet and my arms and my voice, and I realized it's a lot less hassle and it's a means to an end. I can play my songs and I can agree to play anywhere at the drop of a hat. I'll have to run anything by a committee. I can do anything I want.

7:21 Speaker 1: That's been a consistent theme on the show over the years with guests who who are doing a solo thing who used to play in bands. Right, it's like, oh, this is actually easier logistically.

7:31 Speaker 3: Oh it is. It's easier logistically, and you know, I would I'm not against it. I would love to someday have a band to play with. It's a lot. I love playing standing up, but it's just, you know, money's a thing, and I don't want to pay anybody. I don't want to play without getting paid if they're playing, if they're backing somebody up, and I get that. Yeah, But for now, I'm having a blast just doing it myself, packing up the cars. Sometimes I bring my dog yep, you know. And I could go on weekend tours and yeah, I don't.

8:07 Speaker 3: If I can do it, I can do it. I don't have to run it by anybody.

8:10 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Do you miss Portland at all, because that's a great that's a great scene in Portland there's always a lot of good bands around. Sure, seems like, but you don't miss it.

8:18 Speaker 3: No, Now, I miss a memory of what Portland was. It's not what it was, and I mean it's a great place, but just having lived there. When I lived there, I was joking with somebody that there were five restaurants. Really, oh there were maybe ten. Yeah, and it was you could afford to live there. Yeah, it was dirtier, people were maybe a little there was they were more rude. Okay, it was it was just a little more fun. And uh, you know that parable when they talk about the frog and boiling water that doesn't realize it's boiling until it's too late.

8:56 Speaker 3: That's kind of how I felt while I was living there. I was like, wow, this water is it's boiling.

9:03 Speaker 1: Interesting.

9:04 Speaker 3: I played. I mean, I'm playing there tonight. I'll be at Geno's. Yeah, And so I'm there a couple of times a month for shows or to see friends bands play. And I have a lot of friends that live there. But I don't miss living there.

9:16 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, No, that's good. It's good that you're happy where you are. Oh yeah, that's awesome.

9:20 Speaker 3: I love Yeah, I like river Folk now.

9:25 Speaker 1: Do you think that's influenced what you do creatively? Like or do you think if you were doing a solo thing in Portland you'd be doing the same thing.

9:31 Speaker 3: Or I'd probably be doing the same thing. But I think, you know, being up there, I wouldn't say I'm isolated, but definitely left to my own devices. More as far as like music, again, like playing alone, I'm just I bounce ideas off the wall and back to me.

9:53 Speaker 1: Exactly. So what drew you to performing at prayers of Nature or the listening room rather at listening room at a look.

10:02 Speaker 3: Like a cool it looked like a cool place. I mean, I'm I playing alone. It's a hustle. I'm I'm I send out at least one email or message or something a day to somebody, and uh, you know, sometimes you hear back. Sometimes you hear back and there's enthusiasms. Sometimes you hear back and you have to plead your case to people of why you should be there to play. But uh, in this in this case, I sent an inquiry and I got a lot of enthusiasm back, which right there, it's like, yeah, okay, I want to play at this place, And yeah, it just looked cool, and i'd never been to Wilton, New Hampshire.

10:42 Speaker 5: Yeah.

10:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably hear that a lot, right.

10:46 Speaker 2: Try to find the place tucked away. It's definitely what you call a hidden gem. It's in a it's in an art mill, so it's pretty cool once you find it. Once people discover it, they're like, oh cool, you know. Yeah, it's different sense so that you would find a weird little nook.

11:02 Speaker 1: Right right. Has it changed much by the way since you opened, because because I think if I remember correctly, so you had been on the show when you were either about to start or you had just started it.

11:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean with us, Yeah we just started it. Yeah, you hadn't had it yet, okay, right right now. I've had ten of them since I've last been here. Yeah yeah, I thought six months have gone by already. And I was like, well, come to an update, And then I booked him and I was like, you want to come with me?

11:28 Speaker 1: Yeah?

11:28 Speaker 3: Yeah.

11:30 Speaker 1: It's like, if.

11:30 Speaker 2: Anything, can you play your music and just talk about you?

11:32 Speaker 4: You know?

11:33 Speaker 3: Yeah?

11:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was.

11:34 Speaker 2: I was happy that he's physically with us today.

11:37 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah.

11:38 Speaker 2: But I guess what's changed is my commitment to making sure that the sound is as good as it can be in the lighting, and because I'm recognizing that the online presence is really important, absolutely, and it's been helpful to me and exciting because I didn't really have much optimism when I started. Really I didn't. I hadn't been in the booking a venue scene in about three years. I had taken a break. I had taken a break because I was burnt out and I'd done it for other people. I'd done it for myself.

12:14 Speaker 2: I'd done it as a musician. I'd done it as a venue. Yeah, I've done it as a nonprofit. I had done it. I did it, and I was like, I'm done. And that's when I took a break and focused on my own music. So when I jump back into supporting other artists, I was a little apprehensive because obviously it comes with a lot of drama and a lot of egos and I have to manage them and it affects my relationships, and I just was went in really apprehensively and really guarded. But the more I did it, every show I had, I was like, yes, this is what I want.

12:45 Speaker 2: I love this part of meeting such unique artists and being able to support them and just making them feel good about themselves made me feel good about myself, and I think that finally shone through in the social media and it resonated. Yeah, so I think that's what changed for me personally. And I wish I could do it every weekend, but I wouldn't have the fuel probably to do it. So it's good. I just I got to set that boundary with three and just make people wait, I guess if they want to come do it.

13:17 Speaker 1: So you mentioned too, you're hearing from people. It sounds like you're hearing from people all over the Northeast at this point.

13:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you know, and it's it's a bummer too, because the second I recognize they're a little too far away, I'm gonna have to have the conversation with them about how we we don't offer a guarantee. I'm pretty transparent about that. Yeah, but I will I I will hustle for you and if you meet me halfway, we will do what we can. And I don't take a cut unless the room even sells out. So like, I'm not here to take your money, I'm really here to share your art. So yeah, for some people, though, that John is just a little too far.

13:51 Speaker 2: You know, as much as they want to come play, they're like, oh, man, I can't do it. But you know, I will say too something Caleb touched on, and then I'll shut up. As you position myself. Whenever I reach out and try to get bookings, not getting a response, I would rather get a no.

14:08 Speaker 4: Oh.

14:08 Speaker 2: I would rather get oh, we're booked, or you know, I'd rather get some kind of like confirmation that you at least saw my stuff right, and like, if it's not for you, you don't think it's a good fit, that's fine. But I get so irritated wh I don't even get a response. So I try to at least respond to people. Even though I get a lot of inquiries. I will respond to you.

14:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I will.

14:27 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a no and for whatever reason, but I will let you know so you can move about with your bookings accordingly.

14:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, was there a point where you started to feel like, oh, this is really going to work or this is going to catch on more than I expected.

14:45 Speaker 2: I was surprised by the response. For musicians, I want a more solid patronage, but that will just happen over time. Sure, I recognize that and bringing people in that aren't normally from here. Is helpful people willing to take the risk and come out share their art with us, And you know, in doing that, I've already gained just beginning Dan in there, I had people from town that it never even knew I existed down there, and they know Dan, so they don't want to come back.

15:10 Speaker 1: Yeah.

15:11 Speaker 2: So you know, every once in a while there's people in town that follow these artists that will come and then they want to come back to more. So I'm hoping by the end of the year I have a solid crew.

15:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fantastic.

15:21 Speaker 2: Now you know, twenty seats, you know I could do it.

15:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah, Caleb, is this well, what is the show actually? When?

15:30 Speaker 2: Saturday? Next week?

15:32 Speaker 1: Next Saturday?

15:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's the nineteenth nineteenth.

15:36 Speaker 1: Will this be the most kind of unique situation for you in terms of where you've played, because this is obviously you know, there's nothing quite like you know, the listening room, this is, this is different.

15:48 Speaker 3: It's definitely the most unique I think of the summer. Yeah, for sure, to have like my own basically like my own recital concert. The rest of the shows I'm playing this year or on bills with other artists, which is great. It is fun, and they'll be you know, thirty five forty minute sets, or I have a couple two or three hour nights where I'm just you know, playing in the corner somewhere, which is fine. Yeah, And but this will be like, yeah, this is probably the only like solo kind of recital to an interested audience that's there just for and I'll you know, I have more time to you know, explain myself by you know, talk talk about the song.

16:41 Speaker 3: The song, Yeah, talk about the songs. I can touch on that a little bit sometimes, but I'll actually have time to do that, or or play songs I don't play all that often. Like I've been thinking about, Oh, well I have you know, I've been making a list of stuff if I need to practice that I haven't played in a while that I'm looking forward to to playing.

17:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, Oh very cool. Well we should play another one of these studio tracks that you sent us and we had talked what was we had talked off here about one specifically.

17:15 Speaker 3: Sad sci fi part one?

17:16 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tell us about this?

17:18 Speaker 3: Well this My favorite genre of movies or television or or books is sad science fiction. It's science fiction that's you know, usually depressing because it's maybe a little less fiction, more nonfiction like apocalyptics. Yeah, you know, if you ever watched The Outer Limits, like The Outer Limits was one of my it's one of my favorite shows. It's like Twilight Zone, but it's purely science fiction. The episodes are longer, it's slower, darker. Yeah, and a lot of times it ends just on a really down beat, right right, And I just love that.

17:58 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what like fizz really. I mean, it's it's a horror. We can find joy here and there, but I mean we shouldn't be here. It's a struggle until you're dead. And that's the one thing we have guaranteed to us, right. And this is a song I wrote just the the the idea of, you know, we need optimistic people, we need people looking out for everyone, and I appreciate that, and and I honor that I am not one of those people, and and just the idea of of what what I see. I mean, the song is less fiction, I guess that I think.

18:40 Speaker 3: But like this this we're circling the drain, I guess. And that's where.

18:47 Speaker 1: On that note, well, by the way, Maria Vanish and the chat room says outer Limits one of my favorites can be so scary.

18:53 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've.

18:54 Speaker 1: Always been aware of the show, but I don't think I've ever actually seen the show.

18:57 Speaker 3: It's it's fantastic.

18:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, I might have to check it out. It sound like something I would be interested in. Yeah, all right, so we will. Uh so let's give this suspend. And by the way, where are these uh these are from? You have an album or.

19:07 Speaker 3: I have a I have a brand new album out called Cold Heart, Volume one. It was recorded live in the studio in Somerville, mass by my friend Sean Kerran at the Napoleon Complex. And you just set up a bunch of mics, hit record and I just blew through my set, and uh, it was an incredible experience. And it sounded so good that that was live, that was recording. Yeah, it's all live, no overdubs, and I was recorded in the studio.

19:37 Speaker 1: Kind of doesn't surprise me because there's a there's a certain raw energy to to uh, you know, because I listened to the tracks that you sent and there's there's kind of a raw energy to them. It sounds it sounds like it was recorded, you know what I mean.

19:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great, no headphones. You just put a monitor in front of my face, and.

19:53 Speaker 2: I feel like he mixed it well though. When you said that, he's like the energy is there, But I was like, wow, this is actually I can't. I was actually having a hard time discerning. That's great though, in a good way.

20:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows what he's doing, you know, clearly, clearly. And yeah, so a new album out And if you you know Crying Caleb, if you just google that, you'll find a bunch of stuff and you can find it everywhere.

20:20 Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent. All right, so let's give this a spend. So this is sad sci fi part one. Yeah, this is Crying Caleb. Check this out.

20:28 Speaker 6: No one he's coming to save us.

20:51 Speaker 7: There's nothing out there, none of the man someone st difference to be made.

20:58 Speaker 6: The future is my lives be silent? What is one true?

21:09 Speaker 4: Now?

21:10 Speaker 6: Is the only thing that's for your lautside of that is God?

21:13 Speaker 5: Is we're so concerned now we well.

21:17 Speaker 6: How we will. No one.

21:31 Speaker 7: Is coming to war, couss, no one is coming to teach chums, and no one will remember the truelos that week face these days they are also special. That how going. No one knows the way, nobody knows no.

22:08 Speaker 5: Way, living another one way street, turnball and I makes me what time is relative?

22:20 Speaker 6: We spend it thinking other things. Wait, Ama thinks.

22:24 Speaker 4: Wait, no one is coming to say buzz.

22:43 Speaker 6: We know one.

22:47 Speaker 7: Is coming to care, No one is coming to stop us,

23:03 Speaker 7: No one he's coming to collect.

23:31 Speaker 1: There we go, sorry, said sci Fi part one. That is crying Caleb, and that is what's.

23:36 Speaker 3: The name of the album? We get cold Heart Volume one?

23:39 Speaker 1: Cold Heart Volume one, So there's going to be a volume two, I assume.

23:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

23:43 Speaker 1: I was wondering when when I hear somebody call something part one, only because in the eighties when Hall and Oates released Rock and Soul Part one, they never put out a part two. So whenever I hear that yet, yeah, yes, but it ain't gonna happen now apparently.

23:59 Speaker 2: They're all upset, but Oasis is back together, so it's fine.

24:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, so anything anything can happen tomorrow. Hollano, No, that song I was I was commenting off air. You know it's dark and it's sad, but it's also funny. Oh you know, I like the I like the sense of humor, you know, very dark humor.

24:17 Speaker 3: But hilarious, no going to laugh.

24:21 Speaker 1: And I guess it's funny because it's true, right, I think.

24:25 Speaker 2: Too, what you what you did too with that song is you kind of made it timeless?

24:28 Speaker 1: You know.

24:29 Speaker 2: It's one of those ones where I'm like, oh, is he talking about right now or is he talking about? Like what is it? What is it?

24:34 Speaker 3: Exactly?

24:34 Speaker 2: He's putting hitting the nail on the head on your right. You didn't you didn't put it in a box, which I thought was great too.

24:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, timeless, not only in terms of the lyrics, but in terms of the production. Because you could have told me that came from any point and I would have believed you, you know what I mean, Like, if you told me that was recorded in the seventies, I would have believed you. But but it was recorded now, and I obviously recorded a few months it was recorded a few months ago. Yeah, and and it's but so it's got that timeless quality to it, which I think is is really cool. You know.

25:07 Speaker 1: I also want to ask you, so you're also saying off air about because you're you're effectively I don't know if you even like the term maybe not one man band, but you were saying off air, I thought this was a really interesting, uh comment, that people will kind of suggest other solo artists who do kind of what you do all the time, and and you avoid listening to those.

25:29 Speaker 3: It's uh yeah, I mean, if I hear it, it's fine, and I of course appreciate what they're doing because I'm doing the same thing. But I don't want it to get in my head, yeah kind of thing. Maybe it's a I don't know, it's it. I don't like, I don't want to be too influenced by the techniques of what other people do. I can definitely appreciate them like I and if I'm playing a show with one, of course it's fun to watch, but like, I don't spend my time listening like seeking out other one man bands and listening to them.

26:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, for me, the one man band thing, it's a means to an end. It's just I want to play my songs, but I don't want to play acoustic. Yeah, solo thing, which is great. I know so many people who are good at it. I am not good at it. I want to rock and roll, and this is how I can do it, And this is how I can perform my songs. And I love to perform, so yeah, yeah, it's it's just a way to do it.

26:32 Speaker 1: So when you're playing live, so you have an electric right, so you're not yeah, so you're not doing the singer songwriter thing with an acoustic No, and then you're stomping for the percussion, right.

26:41 Speaker 3: Yeah. I have a bass drum, a high hat, a guitar, and an amp. Yeah, and you know, I that's how I do it. Yeah. I can load in and out of anywhere usually within ten minutes. Yeah, it doesn't take me long to set up and yeah, I go.

26:59 Speaker 1: You know, venue must love that.

27:01 Speaker 3: They do well. It's funny. I'll play a lot of I play a lot of places, like smaller places, and they'll be they'll hear like the recorded material and they'll be like, you might be too loud, and I promise them I am not.

27:14 Speaker 4: Like.

27:14 Speaker 3: I'm very self aware of my tone how I want to sound, and I have done a lot of work to make sure I can capture that tone at pretty much any volume, different wattage. So if I'm playing, if I were playing in here, I could make it work. You know in this and I say in here you can't see it, but it's a little room or on a big stage, like I can adapt so I can play smaller places and it's still sounds like me, but it's not going to stab anyone in the ear.

27:51 Speaker 1: So was it challenging to learn to do that? Because well, obviously so you actually this is something you mentioned off air too. You've also been a drummer, right, yes, so obviously with drums, you know, that's the one instrument where typically someone's using all four of their limbs. So maybe it wasn't challenging. I mean, was it challenging learn to do well?

28:10 Speaker 3: No, I mean there was a little bit of time, but it came pretty natural because I tap my foot when I play. I'm really excited to tempo and feeling like I guess I hate the word but groove of what I'm doing. But I was just talking with a friend of mine the other day. While I'm doing it, I'm not thinking about everything I'm doing all at once. It's automatic, like it's just I'm just doing it. Like and if I'm singing, my concentration is on the singing. If I'm playing guitar solo, my concentrations on the guitar solo, what my feet are doing.

28:45 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm aware of them, but I'm not. If I start thinking about it, I will crash. And it's funny because I am I'm not a very coordinated person.

28:55 Speaker 1: Really.

28:55 Speaker 3: I joke with my old lady all the time, like gravity is a lot stronger around me than anywhere else. Drop stuff, always bumping into things. Oh it look like a moron when I'm loading stuff around. But when I'm sitting playing, yeah, it seems very graceful.

29:12 Speaker 1: It's like I am just not I can absolutely relate to that. Yeah. So yeah, so when you yeah, I remember the first time I saw somebody do anything like that was uh, John Hot years ago. Boy, this must have been like twenty years ago. I saw John Hyatt live and conquered and and it was cool. You know, he doesn't and he doesn't have like a little drum kit or anything. He would just stand out with his guitar, but he had there was a microphone obviously on the floor. They had the floor micd and he would, you know, start tapping his foot and it just sounded so cool though.

29:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, when he when he started doing that, because it it surprises the audience a little bit too, because you know, he's just out there with his guitar, so you think he's just because it was an acoustic show. Obviously, he did a lot of tours where he played with the full band, but this particular tour is just an acoustic tour and it was just him the guitar, so you almost don't expect it. And then he starts tapping and there's obviously a mic on the floor. It's like, oh, that sounds really good.

30:06 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's great. I mean, I've seen before I started doing this, I had seen a few one man bands perform, and I remember loving it, but also thinking like I could do that. M like I could do that, and I'd even tell people, you know, I could do that. Yeah, And eventually I did that well during COVID times my band wasn't playing, of course, yeah, and I got really bored. So that was when I started like practicing it and doing it and putting up videos and stuff. And then once things started opening back up, I started playing with the drummer again and that was fine.

30:43 Speaker 3: And then, like I said, when I moved up to Auburn, Maine, I decided to just do it one man band, but no, I mean people have been doing it since forever. Yeah, I mean, it's it's a I like it. It's kind of a Carneye Carnie trick. You know, it's it's it's a sideshow thing, and it's it's I try not the I'm serious. The songs there can be serious. They're funny and like, I'm serious about that, but I also realize it's pretty ridiculous and it's fun it's funny. Sure, it's funny to watch. Ye, some people when they're watching it, they're just like, oh yeah, it's.

31:20 Speaker 1: Just I love it.

31:21 Speaker 2: It comes out of one person. Yeah, I think it's cool. You've surrounded yourself with ways, in different ways to express yourself, and I really enjoy it.

31:30 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, but it is I understand. I recognize that it's pretty funny.

31:38 Speaker 1: We should play another one. Let's see should we play?

31:41 Speaker 5: What?

31:41 Speaker 1: Should we play?

31:42 Speaker 3: Oh? How She Dances is a fun one.

31:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to learn about why you covered that, because I don't know if you want to talk about an hour after, But like I was hoping that that would be the song i'd learn more about.

31:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd heard, Oh yeah, I had heard it's I didn't write this, you know. It's I'd heard one of my favorite artists, Taff Falco and the Panther Burns, do this song, and I remember I just loved it. I loved the whole Spieley gives and I remember thinking like, I could do this song, yeah, a long time ago, and then I like looked it up and realized, like, you know, I didn't think it was his song, but turns out it's just this old vaudevillian song from the like nineteen fifteen or something like that, and I was like, well, and this doesn't belong to anybody.

32:28 Speaker 3: I could definitely do this song. And you know, I think, like any song like that, it gets changed. So this is my version. And I grew up in Old Orchard Beach, Maine, which you know, I'm part Carney. Like that was downtown Old Orchard. That's a lot of us who grew up there, especially like the time I grew up there, we started working downtown. I had my first job downtown hustling Taurus when I was like twelve years old, you know, And a lot of it's hustling Taurus. Some of it's just it's like food service.

33:01 Speaker 3: Some of them is trying to rope people in just rip them off, playing an impossible game that they're not going to win, you know. And I just the whole art of the circus and the traveling people just fleecing roubes. I just think it's hilarious and like humans are so easily manipulated and tricked into doing dumb stuff if they're told, yes, this is the right decision.

33:29 Speaker 1: Why is Old Orchard Beach like that specifically, just because well, it's.

33:33 Speaker 3: A tourist town, but it's one of the places in the Northeast. It's a working class vacation spot. It's where working people can afford to go, where working people can afford to take their families and keep them entertained. There's games and rides. It's cheaper. I mean, it's not cheap, but it's cheaper than going to a gun Quit or Kenny Bunk or Booth Bay Harbor or Kadia or anywhere like that. It's it's it's kind of low grade entertainment for regular folks, okay, And so you get a lot of you know, working class people.

34:10 Speaker 3: You get some affluent people, but most for the most part, it's just regular folks.

34:15 Speaker 1: Oh, that's interesting.

34:16 Speaker 3: Okay.

34:17 Speaker 1: I was partly curious too, because I think I've only been there once. But the first time I ever saw Kiss was it older?

34:22 Speaker 3: Oh there you go. Yeah, Yeah, that's a good band for that town.

34:26 Speaker 1: There you go interesting. Yeah, all right, So we're gonna give this a spend. So this is See I didn't even know this was a cover. Yeah when I when I listened to it.

34:35 Speaker 3: It's royalty. I wouldn't record a song that wasn't.

34:39 Speaker 2: I didn't know if you paid.

34:41 Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, all right, cool, all right, let's give this a spin. This is how she dances, and this is crime Caleb.

35:00 Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen are right this way.

35:01 Speaker 8: See the greatest conglomeration of curiosities ever gathered under one canvas tent. See the Indian rubber Boy. See two ton Tiny the back of Lady. See Prince Jujububbo the sword swallower. He is also the snake Charmer.

35:19 Speaker 9: See the Lovely.

35:20 Speaker 8: Princess Karma performer spectacular dance sismond It high above the heads of the audience.

35:25 Speaker 6: On a palet's surface, no larger than a silver dive.

35:30 Speaker 8: She performs her dancity accompaniment to a strange Tom Tom orchestra, lit by a myriad array of thousands of tiny electric light bombs.

35:40 Speaker 6: Every nerve, every muscle, every fiber of her body is shimmy's like jelly in the bowl.

35:45 Speaker 8: So bring your friends, your neighbors, and your children, or they may reproach you in.

35:50 Speaker 6: Later life for this un caught, for lack of their education.

35:54 Speaker 8: It only cost a dime two nichols one tenth part of a dollar.

35:58 Speaker 6: You may receive instructions, but push don't show. There's room for one and all.

36:05 Speaker 4: Bucko man stood outside another great side show.

36:09 Speaker 6: Wild to ride right this week we have.

36:12 Speaker 8: The main attraction with us today, the dancing princess Lemental.

36:19 Speaker 6: She don't move her feet at all, saying she drew up the suns in two distractions.

36:26 Speaker 8: Well hire room Green pulled out a time, he said, boys, I'm here and a.

36:30 Speaker 6: Half the time, so give me easy now front as far as I'm al. Willy stayed in there four.

36:38 Speaker 8: Hours about and last they threw Paul higher out.

36:42 Speaker 6: And as they did, she dances. Know how she dances.

36:51 Speaker 8: I've never seen such a room in my life.

36:56 Speaker 6: It beats that dancing costole what boys, you all and stay at home and of all your cha chen to your She wiggles, Oh, she wiggles, she shimmy is just like chili in both.

37:17 Speaker 8: She is never steaming streets of cairos.

37:23 Speaker 3: I've known from a baby.

37:25 Speaker 6: She's from my.

37:28 Speaker 1: Town.

37:32 Speaker 6: Like this way, ladies and.

37:33 Speaker 8: Gentlemen, Right this way to see the incredible despicable geek captured in the wilds of Old Orchard Beach Main, where he was incarcerated in the attic by his parents at the tender age of fourteen. In order to survive, he learned to eat my rats, live chickens, and other living organisms.

37:51 Speaker 6: Yes, friends, heats.

37:56 Speaker 1: Oh that is Oh how she dances. That is Crime Caleb from the album Cold Heart Volume one. Hey, where's the name come from? By the way, Crime Caleb.

38:10 Speaker 3: Good question. Well, one of my I don't really believe in heroes, but let's say I was someone who believed in a hero. Sure one of them would be Scream and Jay Hawkins Scream and Jay Howland Wolf. There's another guy I like named Lonesome Wyatt. I like the you know that title in Yeah my name you know it's Caleb Aaron Colthard, and Colthard is one of those names like in a loud room. If if I tell people my name, they say what was that? And I'm like, exactly right right, And it was actually my friend Heather, who painted the cover of the new album.

38:48 Speaker 3: When she learned my real last last name, she was like cold heart and I was like, yeah, exactly, oh you know yeah, And I had heard that before. An old teacher in school used to say I had a cold heart, but no, yeah, crying. Caleb was just it's just I needed a name. Yeah, and that was came up with it and I asked a few people. I was like, what do you think of that? And they're like that's good, Yeah, all right, yeah yeah yeah.

39:13 Speaker 1: Well, by the way, Miriam said in the chat room, feeling a little Tom Waits thing in this, is he an influence on you? I didn't think of that until Miriam said that, but yeah, I can. I'm gonna hear it.

39:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to to an extent. There's like three Tom Waits records I really like, Yeah and yeah, I like those three albums.

39:34 Speaker 1: He's a unique.

39:35 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, he's not my favorite, but I definitely the songs I like by him, I really really really like Yeah. But I'm I don't know if he's so much an influence. Maybe just it's in there somewhere. We know he's not a hero, no heroes. Yeah, it's good time.

39:57 Speaker 2: I felt like I had, like I told when Dan came, and I feel the same way about you.

40:01 Speaker 3: I woke up.

40:02 Speaker 2: I was in my house last night, and you're ready for bed as like musical Santa's.

40:05 Speaker 3: Coming tomorrow, musical.

40:07 Speaker 4: See.

40:07 Speaker 2: You may not be my hero, but you're my musical Santa. I couldn't sleep last night. I was I haven't actually met him. We've been talking online, so I booked him and just getting to know each other. But I'm like, I actually get to meet him.

40:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's cool. That's cool, very cool. Now, what about so when is uh have you started working on Coldhart Volume two yet?

40:27 Speaker 3: Or well it's I okay. I put on an album called night Hoss a few years ago and that was like my first solo record, and after that, over the last few years, I've recorded a lot and then that was going to be the next album. But and then out of nowhere, I got a show in Massachusetts and I decided to make a weekend of it and book another show while I was down there and studio time and recorded and I was like, boom, that's the record. So I just put that out. But I still have all these recordings I've done that I really like.

41:05 Speaker 1: OK.

41:06 Speaker 3: I think those are probably gonna come out in some shape or form. But cold Heart Volume two, I don't even know if that will be the next album, but there will be one. I imagine it will be another one man band, like live in the studio, once I get enough songs that I want to use that way, because the other stuff I record, like my first album night Hoss and singles I've put out. When I record those, I actually record. I play drums, and I play bass, and I do guitar and couples. Like I record it as a whole band, I'm still playing everything.

41:43 Speaker 3: I might have a guest play organ or something. I don't know how to play on it. But the live show is one man band. And that's why this new album is the closest to like, this is what I sound like live.

41:57 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense when you do some of the shows that you do, if you have to play a long time, so you mix in some covers, originals.

42:06 Speaker 3: Yes I do. I do you know old country songs? I I don't do anything I don't like, that's for sure. But I'll do a song I do Bela Lugosi's Dead by the Bow House, a Forest by the Cure Echo and the Bunnyman Morrissey.

42:27 Speaker 2: You did one recently that or I don't know if you did it recently, but I watched it recently with the opening for Rocky Horror Pictures show.

42:33 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Rocky Horror. That's a fun one, the science fiction double feature. Yeah, I'd do that one. Yeah, Kinks. You know, there's some songs I've known my whole life, but I've never actually played that. Like I played a show in Lewiston, near where I live, and I was playing a two hour show and on the way there I heard a whole lot of shaking going on by Jerry Lee Lewis. Now I've heard that song thousands of times probably sure, and I was like, I could play this. So while I was playing, I just start playing it.

43:06 Speaker 3: Oh really, it's not it's three chords. Just had to remember the words and that was a blast, you know, like I Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard like you know stuff I do. Yeah, I do a lot of covers.

43:18 Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like though some of the covers you do might be there might be instances where people who are there don't necessarily realize their covers right, because some of these not in not standard issue covers.

43:29 Speaker 3: I mean, I often I try not to take you know, I'll mention like the songs written by so and so or afterwards, I'll say it whether they hear it or not. But it's great if I'm playing for a group of like, you know, working dudes who like country music, and then I throw an echo and the Bunnyman song they've never heard, but they like it, or a cure song, but they like it and they don't even realize it's a like if they heard the original, they probably like, what right? I really enjoy that? Or the flip side of it, doing you know a country song that a different audience might not.

44:07 Speaker 2: That you could do a sick rap cover if you found the right rap song.

44:11 Speaker 3: I used to, but in this day and age, I don't do the ones I used to do because a sense of humor. Sure, and of course there's nothing malicious in in my my but I'm like, I'm not gonna do those anymore.

44:28 Speaker 1: Understood, Yeah, understood, Yeah, yeah, oh, the time goes quickly. I want to make sure we I want to make sure we get one more song in. But I also want to remind everybody, especially for people who are just joining us, about the show coming up at at Prayers, I keep doing that a listening room. I think I'm suffering from adult on set dyslexia. Forgive me the listening room at Prayers of Nature.

44:51 Speaker 2: But you can find everything at Prayers of Nature dot com. So I've made it a little difficult for you.

44:56 Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe that's why I keep inspiring.

44:58 Speaker 3: In my brain.

45:00 Speaker 2: You can reserve seats for as little as twelve dollars. You can come see Caleb, which is quite a steal if you ask me. And it's September, I'm sorry. Saturday, July nineteenth. The doors open at six thirty, the show starts at seven. Okay, yeah, Prayers at Nature dot com. You can reserve a seat. I won't turn people away if they show up at the door. It's just if you want to be able to sit down. Yeah, you're going to want to go online and reserve a seat, but if you show up, you know I'm not going to be like, go away, right right, I'm just gonna Yeah, I call it the Wallflower Pass.

45:33 Speaker 2: You still pay, but you're going to be standing. So yeah, yeah, I'm really excited about it. We also have I should mention before Caleb, there is two other acts. There's one on Thursday called Blame It On Sally. It's a duo upright bass guitar. The woman who plays upright bass is actually an artist at the mill that I'm in, So she's an art professor and she's a painter. So she's going to be opening her studio for her show for people to show up early and enjoy her art before she actually performs. So that's Blame It On Sally on Thursday.

46:07 Speaker 2: And then Tom Russo, who you've met, my cousin, is performing.

46:10 Speaker 1: He's been on a few times.

46:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's coming that Friday, and once again they all start at seven, open at six thirty. And then yeah, Caleb on the nineteen oh and it was Caleb.

46:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, excellent, And Caleb, what should people know about? Where to find you online? Where to get your albums?

46:25 Speaker 3: And oh, just you can google crying Caleb, You're gonna find me. But I'm on all the social media stuff, well not all of them, but not OnlyFans, not on OnlyFans.

46:38 Speaker 1: It's hard to be on all of them. There's so many.

46:39 Speaker 3: But I I say, you know, Instagram, Facebook, you can find Crying Caleb YouTube. I have a lot of stuff on YouTube that I don't put on the other stuff. And you know I have a band camp. But you can find you can find me. Yeah, you can find me. It's not hard to find ye. People who say they can't find me, it's like you didn't right, right, Yeah, And I don't blame you. This is who's got time this work. It's hard, man.

47:07 Speaker 1: I've always I've always thought it's funny when somebody says, oh, yeah, I looked for you online. I couldn't find you. It's like you try, you couldn't find a guy named Matt Connorton. Like, how many Matt Connortons do you think there are out there? There is one other one, but he's my uncle, so he doesn't count. Oh uncle Matt, Yeah, Uncle Natt. Well, very good, and we will. So we'll close out with this track to Live and Love in the Shadow of Fear.

47:33 Speaker 3: Oh okay, it's an ominous title. Yeah, and this is an episode of the Outer Limits, The New Outer Limits. My girlfriend always says, stop calling it the new Outer Limits because it's from the nineties, because the original show was in the sixties.

47:44 Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't even realize that there's going to reboot.

47:46 Speaker 3: Yeah there was in the nineties, Okay, but this episode, particular episode is about someone who realizes there's something wrong with the moon and that the sun probably went nova in that as morning come, everyone's going to be incinerated. So he decides to spend his last night on Earth coming clean with the Galley has a crush on that works at the bookstore, and he asks her out on a date and you know, spends what they believe to be their last night on Earth together, but she doesn't realize the Earth is gonna be gone in the morning.

48:22 Speaker 3: When she finds out, she's kind of angry, like why would I want to spend the rest of my life with you? Like I barely know you. But it's Outer Limits, so it gets more complicated. But anyway, I just love that idea of the end coming and just knowing when it's coming and being like, what do you want to do, And it's like, well, I know what i'd like to do. I'd like to spend it with the woman I love. So that's what this song.

48:46 Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, very cool, crying Caleb, thank you so much, thank you, and of course Darling Hill, thank you. Oh and thank you for the wonderful sticker too. I'll hold that up for people watching online so they can see it one more time for the listening room at Prayers of Nature. Set right yet, it very good, and we will close out today's show with this. This is to live in love in the shadow of fear, And this is Crian Caleb.

49:27 Speaker 3: I want to spend.

49:30 Speaker 6: His night with you.

49:36 Speaker 7: Because in the morning it'll all be gone.

49:44 Speaker 8: Nothing really mans with nothing.

49:51 Speaker 3: He's no more now, nothing is no.

49:56 Speaker 9: More spilling weird.

50:11 Speaker 6: And old youth in my art.

50:15 Speaker 10: While in all schools dart into closed eyes, we see shimmer rings, sills, breadles as the lightning exists forth the last time, the futures is.

50:52 Speaker 6: Silas and it's cool. It's a hostile where we won't be long. So it's spend the night doing.

51:10 Speaker 3: Those things we saw love to.

51:14 Speaker 6: Do, like watching movies and telling Joe's.

51:23 Speaker 1: Spending me.

51:32 Speaker 6: And Aldien in my arms.

51:36 Speaker 4: While it all.

51:39 Speaker 6: Starts to close nyes, we see shimmericks.

51:45 Speaker 10: Still over as the light exists for the last time.

51:56 Speaker 6: It was the last time. U n I fading as on into.

52:07 Speaker 9: The Toparness un I, burning as once into as ashes, un I fading as once into the.

52:26 Speaker 6: Boy, U n I, bursting as one as one hard