Cryin Caleb | Matt Connarton Unleashed

1:46 Speaker 1: That is very very catchy. I like that a lot

1:48 Speaker 1: that has got a light and that is crying. Caleb,

1:50 Speaker 1: who is here with us morning, Welcome to the show,

1:53 Speaker 1: and of course returning to the show, Darling Hill. Hello,

1:56 Speaker 1: should we call you Darling Hill? Should we call you Kate?

1:58 Speaker 1: What should we call you?

2:00 Speaker 2: I don't mind Darling Hill, I don't mind representation.

2:03 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I've had some people.

2:04 Speaker 2: It's kind of funny and people started calling me Darling,

2:07 Speaker 2: which kind of threw.

2:07 Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, yeah yeah, I.

2:10 Speaker 2: Didn't hate it though. I thought it was kind of cute,

2:12 Speaker 2: right right, So thanks, not the worst thing. And of course, uh,

2:16 Speaker 2: you've you've been doing a lot with the listening room

2:19 Speaker 2: at Prayers of Nature.

2:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, we said, oh you know what too. Before we

2:23 Speaker 1: go any further, let me hold this up for people

2:25 Speaker 1: watching online. I'll hold up this cool sticker you brought

2:27 Speaker 1: us from the listening room at Prayers of Nature.

2:30 Speaker 2: Thank you.

2:30 Speaker 1: So for those who don't know, refresh our memory on

2:34 Speaker 1: our memories collectively, on what that is what you do there.

2:37 Speaker 2: Well, I do want to give a quick shout out

2:38 Speaker 2: to the artist of that picture you've shown is my

2:40 Speaker 2: friend Victoria. Her business name is actually I have Ethereal.

2:44 Speaker 2: She's a tattoo artist in Nashua. She's located under the

2:47 Speaker 2: Riverwalk Cafe. She's fabulous and we just released a couple

2:52 Speaker 2: of new images as she did as well yesterday.

2:54 Speaker 3: Okay, so that's cool.

2:56 Speaker 2: She's been working with me since we started. So I

2:59 Speaker 2: just wanted to create a little space for musicians to

3:02 Speaker 2: come and share their art in a way that is

3:06 Speaker 2: nurturing and celebrating who they are. As I did it

3:11 Speaker 2: years ago out of my home, but I kind of

3:14 Speaker 2: took a break, and as you know, I met you

3:16 Speaker 2: after I came back from Nashville and elevated a little

3:19 Speaker 2: bit and wanted to share that elevation with the artists

3:22 Speaker 2: that I work with locally. So create this small little

3:25 Speaker 2: space and Caleb will be number eleven, so excellent. I

3:30 Speaker 2: started with one. I was like, I'm just going to

3:32 Speaker 2: do one show month.

3:33 Speaker 1: That's it.

3:33 Speaker 2: I don't want to overdo it. I got the small

3:34 Speaker 2: little art studio, and then it turned and do well,

3:36 Speaker 2: since I have the gear out, I'll do two, you know,

3:39 Speaker 2: like a Friday Saturday. And then it turned into oh,

3:41 Speaker 2: i'll do it Thursday, Friday Saturday. So it's still once

3:44 Speaker 2: a month, but it's usually three shows in one weekend, okay,

3:48 Speaker 2: And so yes, Caleb is number eleven. Good And I've

3:51 Speaker 2: had the fortune of having people from not just New Hampshire,

3:56 Speaker 2: but getting the attention from people from Maine and New

3:58 Speaker 2: York and Connecticut basically a little in New England nugget.

4:02 Speaker 2: And once they hear the deal, they either decide to

4:04 Speaker 2: come be a part of it or there they get

4:07 Speaker 2: put on a waiting list because I am fully booked.

4:09 Speaker 1: So oh that's good. Yeah, that's that's a good problem

4:12 Speaker 1: now right.

4:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty interesting. I think people you know, I'm

4:16 Speaker 2: a musician myself, and I do understand. I try to

4:19 Speaker 2: accommodate what I would like, so people who see that,

4:23 Speaker 2: I think it attracts them. And Caleb reached out after

4:27 Speaker 2: Dan Blakesley swung through, Oh yeah, which was real helpful

4:30 Speaker 2: to I don't know if you've heard of him.

4:32 Speaker 1: I interviewed Dan Blakesley a long time ago. Yeah, yeah,

4:34 Speaker 1: a lot, because he's been around a while. Wasn't stopped,

4:37 Speaker 1: Yeah a long time ago.

4:38 Speaker 2: Wow, he hasn't stopped. So yeah, I'm really excited to

4:42 Speaker 2: have another main artist. Or is he from Maine? He's

4:44 Speaker 2: from me. Yeah, so I really like what Maine's doing.

4:49 Speaker 2: So New Hampshire pay attention.

4:51 Speaker 1: Yes, well, what what is Main doing that we're not

4:53 Speaker 1: doing here?

4:54 Speaker 2: I think they're just weirder, Man, They're just weirder. I

4:57 Speaker 2: think it's further north, there's less bs up there. Yeah,

5:00 Speaker 2: there's something going on. Yeah, closer to the sky. I think, ah, interesting, interesting,

5:06 Speaker 2: it's funkier, it's weirder, it's spookier. I think they embrace

5:09 Speaker 2: that a little more so than in this area. I

5:11 Speaker 2: think here is from my perception from what I've seen,

5:14 Speaker 2: is the local music scene here seems to really hyper

5:17 Speaker 2: fixated on like pop country or folk, or like like

5:21 Speaker 2: a heavy metal vibe and even some punk. But I

5:24 Speaker 2: haven't seen this like cool spooky rockability. I don't even

5:29 Speaker 2: know what to call you sometimes, like I know what

5:30 Speaker 2: you are, but trying to articulate it to other people.

5:32 Speaker 2: What Caleb does is well yeah.

5:34 Speaker 1: Cause we were talking off air about how and I

5:36 Speaker 1: was saying, Caleb, how I don't like listening to your

5:39 Speaker 1: and we should tell the audience too, not everything that

5:42 Speaker 1: you obviously is an instrumental We open with an instrumental track,

5:44 Speaker 1: but we're going to play some I love your voice,

5:46 Speaker 1: so I'm looking forward to playing some of the other

5:47 Speaker 1: stuff too. But I can't think of anybody around here

5:50 Speaker 1: who really sounds like you and what you're doing. But so,

5:54 Speaker 1: what do you think it is?

5:55 Speaker 4: Like?

5:55 Speaker 1: What's different about where your area is?

5:59 Speaker 3: Someone's sent me a photo the other day that said

6:03 Speaker 3: inspirational Western sci fi interesting okay, like from a library,

6:10 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, now I know what to

6:11 Speaker 3: call myself.

6:14 Speaker 2: Spaghetti Western, maybe a.

6:16 Speaker 3: Little spaghetti western rockabilly country blues music I really like

6:22 Speaker 3: and that I've been writing for a long time, and

6:27 Speaker 3: I've played in bands playing music I've written, and I'm

6:33 Speaker 3: proud of, you know, every band I've been in. But

6:37 Speaker 3: I moved to Auburn, Maine after living in Portland for

6:42 Speaker 3: over twenty years, and Auburn, Maine's a little more central Maine, okay,

6:46 Speaker 3: And I didn't really know anyone up there, and getting

6:49 Speaker 3: a band together was just kind of a pain. And

6:52 Speaker 3: then setting up practices in Portland with people willing to play,

6:56 Speaker 3: it was just scheduling stuff. So I just started playing

7:00 Speaker 3: on my own, just using my feet and my arms

7:05 Speaker 3: and my voice, and I realized it's a lot less

7:09 Speaker 3: hassle and it's a means to an end. I can

7:11 Speaker 3: play my songs and I can agree to play anywhere

7:14 Speaker 3: at the drop of a hat. I'll have to run

7:16 Speaker 3: anything by a committee. I can do anything I want.

7:21 Speaker 1: That's been a consistent theme on the show over the

7:23 Speaker 1: years with guests who who are doing a solo thing

7:26 Speaker 1: who used to play in bands. Right, it's like, oh,

7:29 Speaker 1: this is actually easier logistically.

7:31 Speaker 3: Oh it is. It's easier logistically, and you know, I

7:34 Speaker 3: would I'm not against it. I would love to someday

7:38 Speaker 3: have a band to play with. It's a lot. I

7:41 Speaker 3: love playing standing up, but it's just, you know, money's

7:47 Speaker 3: a thing, and I don't want to pay anybody. I

7:50 Speaker 3: don't want to play without getting paid if they're playing,

7:52 Speaker 3: if they're backing somebody up, and I get that. Yeah,

7:56 Speaker 3: But for now, I'm having a blast just doing it myself,

7:59 Speaker 3: packing up the cars. Sometimes I bring my dog yep,

8:01 Speaker 3: you know. And I could go on weekend tours and yeah,

8:06 Speaker 3: I don't. If I can do it, I can do it.

8:09 Speaker 3: I don't have to run it by anybody.

8:10 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Do you miss Portland at all, because that's

8:13 Speaker 1: a great that's a great scene in Portland there's always

8:15 Speaker 1: a lot of good bands around. Sure, seems like, but

8:17 Speaker 1: you don't miss it.

8:18 Speaker 3: No, Now, I miss a memory of what Portland was.

8:21 Speaker 3: It's not what it was, and I mean it's a

8:23 Speaker 3: great place, but just having lived there. When I lived there,

8:26 Speaker 3: I was joking with somebody that there were five restaurants. Really,

8:30 Speaker 3: oh there were maybe ten. Yeah, and it was you

8:34 Speaker 3: could afford to live there. Yeah, it was dirtier, people

8:39 Speaker 3: were maybe a little there was they were more rude. Okay,

8:46 Speaker 3: it was it was just a little more fun. And uh,

8:49 Speaker 3: you know that parable when they talk about the frog

8:53 Speaker 3: and boiling water that doesn't realize it's boiling until it's

8:56 Speaker 3: too late. That's kind of how I felt while I

8:58 Speaker 3: was living there. I was like, wow, this water is

9:00 Speaker 3: it's boiling.

9:03 Speaker 1: Interesting.

9:04 Speaker 3: I played. I mean, I'm playing there tonight. I'll be

9:06 Speaker 3: at Geno's. Yeah, And so I'm there a couple of

9:11 Speaker 3: times a month for shows or to see friends bands play.

9:13 Speaker 3: And I have a lot of friends that live there.

9:14 Speaker 3: But I don't miss living there.

9:16 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, No, that's good. It's good that you're happy

9:18 Speaker 1: where you are. Oh yeah, that's awesome.

9:20 Speaker 3: I love Yeah, I like river Folk now.

9:25 Speaker 1: Do you think that's influenced what you do creatively? Like

9:28 Speaker 1: or do you think if you were doing a solo

9:30 Speaker 1: thing in Portland you'd be doing the same thing.

9:31 Speaker 3: Or I'd probably be doing the same thing. But I think,

9:36 Speaker 3: you know, being up there, I wouldn't say I'm isolated,

9:40 Speaker 3: but definitely left to my own devices. More as far

9:44 Speaker 3: as like music, again, like playing alone, I'm just I

9:49 Speaker 3: bounce ideas off the wall and back to me.

9:53 Speaker 1: Exactly. So what drew you to performing at prayers of

9:57 Speaker 1: Nature or the listening room rather at listening room at

10:00 Speaker 1: a look.

10:02 Speaker 3: Like a cool it looked like a cool place. I mean,

10:04 Speaker 3: I'm I playing alone. It's a hustle. I'm I'm I

10:09 Speaker 3: send out at least one email or message or something

10:13 Speaker 3: a day to somebody, and uh, you know, sometimes you

10:18 Speaker 3: hear back. Sometimes you hear back and there's enthusiasms. Sometimes

10:22 Speaker 3: you hear back and you have to plead your case

10:24 Speaker 3: to people of why you should be there to play.

10:27 Speaker 3: But uh, in this in this case, I sent an

10:31 Speaker 3: inquiry and I got a lot of enthusiasm back, which

10:34 Speaker 3: right there, it's like, yeah, okay, I want to play

10:36 Speaker 3: at this place, And yeah, it just looked cool, and

10:40 Speaker 3: i'd never been to Wilton, New Hampshire.

10:42 Speaker 5: Yeah.

10:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably hear that a lot, right.

10:46 Speaker 2: Try to find the place tucked away. It's definitely what

10:51 Speaker 2: you call a hidden gem. It's in a it's in

10:53 Speaker 2: an art mill, so it's pretty cool once you find it.

10:55 Speaker 2: Once people discover it, they're like, oh cool, you know. Yeah,

10:59 Speaker 2: it's different sense so that you would find a weird

11:01 Speaker 2: little nook.

11:02 Speaker 1: Right right. Has it changed much by the way since

11:06 Speaker 1: you opened, because because I think if I remember correctly,

11:09 Speaker 1: so you had been on the show when you were

11:10 Speaker 1: either about to start or you had just started it.

11:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean with us, Yeah we just started it. Yeah,

11:17 Speaker 2: you hadn't had it yet, okay, right right now. I've

11:19 Speaker 2: had ten of them since I've last been here. Yeah yeah,

11:22 Speaker 2: I thought six months have gone by already. And I

11:24 Speaker 2: was like, well, come to an update, And then I

11:26 Speaker 2: booked him and I was like, you want to come

11:28 Speaker 2: with me?

11:28 Speaker 1: Yeah?

11:28 Speaker 3: Yeah.

11:30 Speaker 1: It's like, if.

11:30 Speaker 2: Anything, can you play your music and just talk about you?

11:32 Speaker 4: You know?

11:33 Speaker 3: Yeah?

11:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was.

11:34 Speaker 2: I was happy that he's physically with us today.

11:37 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah.

11:38 Speaker 2: But I guess what's changed is my commitment to making

11:44 Speaker 2: sure that the sound is as good as it can

11:47 Speaker 2: be in the lighting, and because I'm recognizing that the

11:50 Speaker 2: online presence is really important, absolutely, and it's been helpful

11:55 Speaker 2: to me and exciting because I didn't really have much

11:59 Speaker 2: optimism when I started. Really I didn't. I hadn't been

12:04 Speaker 2: in the booking a venue scene in about three years.

12:09 Speaker 2: I had taken a break. I had taken a break

12:11 Speaker 2: because I was burnt out and I'd done it for

12:12 Speaker 2: other people. I'd done it for myself. I'd done it

12:14 Speaker 2: as a musician. I'd done it as a venue. Yeah,

12:17 Speaker 2: I've done it as a nonprofit. I had done it.

12:19 Speaker 2: I did it, and I was like, I'm done. And

12:21 Speaker 2: that's when I took a break and focused on my

12:23 Speaker 2: own music. So when I jump back into supporting other artists,

12:28 Speaker 2: I was a little apprehensive because obviously it comes with

12:30 Speaker 2: a lot of drama and a lot of egos and

12:33 Speaker 2: I have to manage them and it affects my relationships,

12:36 Speaker 2: and I just was went in really apprehensively and really guarded.

12:40 Speaker 2: But the more I did it, every show I had,

12:43 Speaker 2: I was like, yes, this is what I want. I

12:45 Speaker 2: love this part of meeting such unique artists and being

12:49 Speaker 2: able to support them and just making them feel good

12:51 Speaker 2: about themselves made me feel good about myself, and I

12:55 Speaker 2: think that finally shone through in the social media and

12:59 Speaker 2: it resonated. Yeah, so I think that's what changed for

13:02 Speaker 2: me personally. And I wish I could do it every weekend,

13:06 Speaker 2: but I wouldn't have the fuel probably to do it.

13:11 Speaker 2: So it's good. I just I got to set that

13:13 Speaker 2: boundary with three and just make people wait, I guess

13:16 Speaker 2: if they want to come do it.

13:17 Speaker 1: So you mentioned too, you're hearing from people. It sounds

13:19 Speaker 1: like you're hearing from people all over the Northeast at

13:21 Speaker 1: this point.

13:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you know, and it's it's a bummer too,

13:24 Speaker 2: because the second I recognize they're a little too far away,

13:27 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to have the conversation with them about

13:28 Speaker 2: how we we don't offer a guarantee. I'm pretty transparent

13:31 Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, but I will I I will hustle

13:38 Speaker 2: for you and if you meet me halfway, we will

13:40 Speaker 2: do what we can. And I don't take a cut

13:42 Speaker 2: unless the room even sells out. So like, I'm not

13:45 Speaker 2: here to take your money, I'm really here to share

13:46 Speaker 2: your art. So yeah, for some people, though, that John

13:49 Speaker 2: is just a little too far. You know, as much

13:52 Speaker 2: as they want to come play, they're like, oh, man,

13:53 Speaker 2: I can't do it. But you know, I will say

13:56 Speaker 2: too something Caleb touched on, and then I'll shut up.

13:59 Speaker 2: As you position myself. Whenever I reach out and try

14:02 Speaker 2: to get bookings, not getting a response, I would rather

14:06 Speaker 2: get a no.

14:08 Speaker 4: Oh.

14:08 Speaker 2: I would rather get oh, we're booked, or you know,

14:10 Speaker 2: I'd rather get some kind of like confirmation that you

14:13 Speaker 2: at least saw my stuff right, and like, if it's

14:16 Speaker 2: not for you, you don't think it's a good fit, that's fine.

14:17 Speaker 2: But I get so irritated wh I don't even get

14:19 Speaker 2: a response. So I try to at least respond to people.

14:21 Speaker 2: Even though I get a lot of inquiries. I will

14:23 Speaker 2: respond to you.

14:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I will.

14:27 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a no and for whatever reason, but I

14:30 Speaker 2: will let you know so you can move about with

14:33 Speaker 2: your bookings accordingly.

14:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, was there a point where you started to feel like, oh,

14:40 Speaker 1: this is really going to work or this is going

14:42 Speaker 1: to catch on more than I expected.

14:45 Speaker 2: I was surprised by the response. For musicians, I want

14:49 Speaker 2: a more solid patronage, but that will just happen over time. Sure,

14:52 Speaker 2: I recognize that and bringing people in that aren't normally

14:56 Speaker 2: from here. Is helpful people willing to take the risk

14:59 Speaker 2: and come out share their art with us, And you know,

15:02 Speaker 2: in doing that, I've already gained just beginning Dan in there,

15:05 Speaker 2: I had people from town that it never even knew

15:07 Speaker 2: I existed down there, and they know Dan, so they

15:09 Speaker 2: don't want to come back.

15:10 Speaker 1: Yeah.

15:11 Speaker 2: So you know, every once in a while there's people

15:13 Speaker 2: in town that follow these artists that will come and

15:15 Speaker 2: then they want to come back to more. So I'm

15:17 Speaker 2: hoping by the end of the year I have a

15:19 Speaker 2: solid crew.

15:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fantastic.

15:21 Speaker 2: Now you know, twenty seats, you know I could do it.

15:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah, Caleb, is this well, what

15:29 Speaker 1: is the show actually? When?

15:30 Speaker 2: Saturday? Next week?

15:32 Speaker 1: Next Saturday?

15:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's the nineteenth nineteenth.

15:36 Speaker 1: Will this be the most kind of unique situation for

15:39 Speaker 1: you in terms of where you've played, because this is

15:41 Speaker 1: obviously you know, there's nothing quite like you know, the

15:44 Speaker 1: listening room, this is, this is different.

15:48 Speaker 3: It's definitely the most unique I think of the summer. Yeah,

15:52 Speaker 3: for sure, to have like my own basically like my

15:55 Speaker 3: own recital concert. The rest of the shows I'm playing

15:59 Speaker 3: this year or on bills with other artists, which is great.

16:03 Speaker 3: It is fun, and they'll be you know, thirty five

16:05 Speaker 3: forty minute sets, or I have a couple two or

16:09 Speaker 3: three hour nights where I'm just you know, playing in

16:14 Speaker 3: the corner somewhere, which is fine. Yeah, And but this

16:19 Speaker 3: will be like, yeah, this is probably the only like

16:23 Speaker 3: solo kind of recital to an interested audience that's there

16:31 Speaker 3: just for and I'll you know, I have more time

16:35 Speaker 3: to you know, explain myself by you know, talk talk

16:40 Speaker 3: about the song. The song, Yeah, talk about the songs.

16:44 Speaker 3: I can touch on that a little bit sometimes, but

16:47 Speaker 3: I'll actually have time to do that, or or play

16:50 Speaker 3: songs I don't play all that often. Like I've been

16:54 Speaker 3: thinking about, Oh, well I have you know, I've been

16:56 Speaker 3: making a list of stuff if I need to practice

17:01 Speaker 3: that I haven't played in a while that I'm looking

17:02 Speaker 3: forward to to playing.

17:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, Oh very cool. Well we should

17:07 Speaker 1: play another one of these studio tracks that you sent

17:09 Speaker 1: us and we had talked what was we had talked

17:12 Speaker 1: off here about one specifically.

17:15 Speaker 3: Sad sci fi part one?

17:16 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tell us about this?

17:18 Speaker 3: Well this My favorite genre of movies or television or

17:25 Speaker 3: or books is sad science fiction. It's science fiction that's

17:30 Speaker 3: you know, usually depressing because it's maybe a little less fiction,

17:34 Speaker 3: more nonfiction like apocalyptics. Yeah, you know, if you ever

17:39 Speaker 3: watched The Outer Limits, like The Outer Limits was one

17:42 Speaker 3: of my it's one of my favorite shows. It's like

17:45 Speaker 3: Twilight Zone, but it's purely science fiction. The episodes are longer,

17:50 Speaker 3: it's slower, darker. Yeah, and a lot of times it

17:55 Speaker 3: ends just on a really down beat, right right, And

17:57 Speaker 3: I just love that. I mean, that's what like fizz really.

18:01 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a horror. We can find joy

18:05 Speaker 3: here and there, but I mean we shouldn't be here.

18:09 Speaker 3: It's a struggle until you're dead. And that's the one

18:12 Speaker 3: thing we have guaranteed to us, right. And this is

18:16 Speaker 3: a song I wrote just the the the idea of,

18:20 Speaker 3: you know, we need optimistic people, we need people looking

18:25 Speaker 3: out for everyone, and I appreciate that, and and I

18:29 Speaker 3: honor that I am not one of those people, and

18:33 Speaker 3: and just the idea of of what what I see.

18:37 Speaker 3: I mean, the song is less fiction, I guess that

18:39 Speaker 3: I think. But like this this we're circling the drain,

18:44 Speaker 3: I guess. And that's where.

18:47 Speaker 1: On that note, well, by the way, Maria Vanish and

18:50 Speaker 1: the chat room says outer Limits one of my favorites

18:52 Speaker 1: can be so scary.

18:53 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've.

18:54 Speaker 1: Always been aware of the show, but I don't think

18:56 Speaker 1: I've ever actually seen the show.

18:57 Speaker 3: It's it's fantastic.

18:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, I might have to check it out. It sound

19:00 Speaker 1: like something I would be interested in. Yeah, all right,

19:02 Speaker 1: so we will. Uh so let's give this suspend. And

19:04 Speaker 1: by the way, where are these uh these are from?

19:06 Speaker 1: You have an album or.

19:07 Speaker 3: I have a I have a brand new album out

19:09 Speaker 3: called Cold Heart, Volume one. It was recorded live in

19:13 Speaker 3: the studio in Somerville, mass by my friend Sean Kerran

19:18 Speaker 3: at the Napoleon Complex. And you just set up a

19:21 Speaker 3: bunch of mics, hit record and I just blew through

19:25 Speaker 3: my set, and uh, it was an incredible experience. And

19:29 Speaker 3: it sounded so good that that was live, that was recording. Yeah,

19:33 Speaker 3: it's all live, no overdubs, and I was recorded in

19:36 Speaker 3: the studio.

19:37 Speaker 1: Kind of doesn't surprise me because there's a there's a

19:40 Speaker 1: certain raw energy to to uh, you know, because I

19:42 Speaker 1: listened to the tracks that you sent and there's there's

19:45 Speaker 1: kind of a raw energy to them. It sounds it

19:46 Speaker 1: sounds like it was recorded, you know what I mean.

19:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great, no headphones. You just put a

19:50 Speaker 3: monitor in front of my face, and.

19:53 Speaker 2: I feel like he mixed it well though. When you

19:57 Speaker 2: said that, he's like the energy is there, But I

19:59 Speaker 2: was like, wow, this is actually I can't. I was

20:01 Speaker 2: actually having a hard time discerning. That's great though, in

20:04 Speaker 2: a good way.

20:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows what he's doing, you know, clearly, clearly.

20:09 Speaker 3: And yeah, so a new album out And if you

20:14 Speaker 3: you know Crying Caleb, if you just google that, you'll

20:16 Speaker 3: find a bunch of stuff and you can find it everywhere.

20:20 Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent. All right, so let's give this a spend.

20:23 Speaker 1: So this is sad sci fi part one. Yeah, this

20:26 Speaker 1: is Crying Caleb. Check this out.

20:28 Speaker 6: No one he's coming to save us.

20:51 Speaker 7: There's nothing out there, none of the man someone st

20:56 Speaker 7: difference to be made.

20:58 Speaker 6: The future is my lives be silent? What is one true?

21:09 Speaker 4: Now?

21:10 Speaker 6: Is the only thing that's for your lautside of that

21:13 Speaker 6: is God?

21:13 Speaker 5: Is we're so concerned now we well.

21:17 Speaker 6: How we will. No one.

21:31 Speaker 7: Is coming to war, couss, no one is coming to

21:42 Speaker 7: teach chums, and no one will remember the truelos that

22:00 Speaker 7: week face these days they are also special. That how going.

22:05 Speaker 7: No one knows the way, nobody knows no.

22:08 Speaker 5: Way, living another one way street, turnball and I makes

22:17 Speaker 5: me what time is relative?

22:20 Speaker 6: We spend it thinking other things. Wait, Ama thinks.

22:24 Speaker 4: Wait, no one is coming to say buzz.

22:43 Speaker 6: We know one.

22:47 Speaker 7: Is coming to care, No one is coming to stop us,

23:03 Speaker 7: No one he's coming to collect.

23:31 Speaker 1: There we go, sorry, said sci Fi part one. That

23:34 Speaker 1: is crying Caleb, and that is what's.

23:36 Speaker 3: The name of the album? We get cold Heart Volume one?

23:39 Speaker 1: Cold Heart Volume one, So there's going to be a

23:41 Speaker 1: volume two, I assume.

23:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

23:43 Speaker 1: I was wondering when when I hear somebody call something

23:46 Speaker 1: part one, only because in the eighties when Hall and

23:50 Speaker 1: Oates released Rock and Soul Part one, they never put

23:52 Speaker 1: out a part two. So whenever I hear that yet, yeah, yes,

23:56 Speaker 1: but it ain't gonna happen now apparently.

23:59 Speaker 2: They're all upset, but Oasis is back together, so it's fine.

24:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, so anything anything can happen tomorrow. Hollano, No, that

24:08 Speaker 1: song I was I was commenting off air. You know

24:10 Speaker 1: it's dark and it's sad, but it's also funny. Oh

24:13 Speaker 1: you know, I like the I like the sense of humor,

24:15 Speaker 1: you know, very dark humor.

24:17 Speaker 3: But hilarious, no going to laugh.

24:21 Speaker 1: And I guess it's funny because it's true, right, I think.

24:25 Speaker 2: Too, what you what you did too with that song

24:27 Speaker 2: is you kind of made it timeless?

24:28 Speaker 1: You know.

24:29 Speaker 2: It's one of those ones where I'm like, oh, is

24:30 Speaker 2: he talking about right now or is he talking about?

24:33 Speaker 2: Like what is it? What is it?

24:34 Speaker 3: Exactly?

24:34 Speaker 2: He's putting hitting the nail on the head on your right.

24:37 Speaker 2: You didn't you didn't put it in a box, which

24:38 Speaker 2: I thought was great too.

24:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, timeless, not only in terms of

24:43 Speaker 1: the lyrics, but in terms of the production. Because you

24:47 Speaker 1: could have told me that came from any point and

24:49 Speaker 1: I would have believed you, you know what I mean, Like,

24:52 Speaker 1: if you told me that was recorded in the seventies,

24:54 Speaker 1: I would have believed you. But but it was recorded now,

24:58 Speaker 1: and I obviously recorded a few months it was recorded

25:00 Speaker 1: a few months ago. Yeah, and and it's but so

25:02 Speaker 1: it's got that timeless quality to it, which I think

25:05 Speaker 1: is is really cool. You know. I also want to

25:09 Speaker 1: ask you, so you're also saying off air about because

25:12 Speaker 1: you're you're effectively I don't know if you even like

25:14 Speaker 1: the term maybe not one man band, but you were

25:16 Speaker 1: saying off air, I thought this was a really interesting,

25:19 Speaker 1: uh comment, that people will kind of suggest other solo

25:23 Speaker 1: artists who do kind of what you do all the time,

25:27 Speaker 1: and and you avoid listening to those.

25:29 Speaker 3: It's uh yeah, I mean, if I hear it, it's fine,

25:35 Speaker 3: and I of course appreciate what they're doing because I'm

25:37 Speaker 3: doing the same thing. But I don't want it to

25:39 Speaker 3: get in my head, yeah kind of thing. Maybe it's

25:41 Speaker 3: a I don't know, it's it. I don't like, I

25:48 Speaker 3: don't want to be too influenced by the techniques of

25:52 Speaker 3: what other people do. I can definitely appreciate them like

25:55 Speaker 3: I and if I'm playing a show with one, of

25:57 Speaker 3: course it's fun to watch, but like, I don't spend

26:00 Speaker 3: my time listening like seeking out other one man bands

26:03 Speaker 3: and listening to them. Yeah, you know, for me, the

26:06 Speaker 3: one man band thing, it's a means to an end.

26:08 Speaker 3: It's just I want to play my songs, but I

26:10 Speaker 3: don't want to play acoustic. Yeah, solo thing, which is great.

26:17 Speaker 3: I know so many people who are good at it.

26:19 Speaker 3: I am not good at it. I want to rock

26:22 Speaker 3: and roll, and this is how I can do it,

26:25 Speaker 3: And this is how I can perform my songs. And

26:27 Speaker 3: I love to perform, so yeah, yeah, it's it's just

26:31 Speaker 3: a way to do it.

26:32 Speaker 1: So when you're playing live, so you have an electric right,

26:35 Speaker 1: so you're not yeah, so you're not doing the singer

26:36 Speaker 1: songwriter thing with an acoustic No, and then you're stomping

26:40 Speaker 1: for the percussion, right.

26:41 Speaker 3: Yeah. I have a bass drum, a high hat, a guitar,

26:45 Speaker 3: and an amp. Yeah, and you know, I that's how

26:50 Speaker 3: I do it. Yeah. I can load in and out

26:52 Speaker 3: of anywhere usually within ten minutes. Yeah, it doesn't take

26:56 Speaker 3: me long to set up and yeah, I go.

26:59 Speaker 1: You know, venue must love that.

27:01 Speaker 3: They do well. It's funny. I'll play a lot of

27:05 Speaker 3: I play a lot of places, like smaller places, and

27:07 Speaker 3: they'll be they'll hear like the recorded material and they'll

27:11 Speaker 3: be like, you might be too loud, and I promise

27:13 Speaker 3: them I am not.

27:14 Speaker 4: Like.

27:14 Speaker 3: I'm very self aware of my tone how I want

27:19 Speaker 3: to sound, and I have done a lot of work

27:21 Speaker 3: to make sure I can capture that tone at pretty

27:24 Speaker 3: much any volume, different wattage. So if I'm playing, if

27:29 Speaker 3: I were playing in here, I could make it work.

27:33 Speaker 3: You know in this and I say in here you

27:34 Speaker 3: can't see it, but it's a little room or on

27:38 Speaker 3: a big stage, like I can adapt so I can

27:42 Speaker 3: play smaller places and it's still sounds like me, but

27:46 Speaker 3: it's not going to stab anyone in the ear.

27:51 Speaker 1: So was it challenging to learn to do that? Because well,

27:55 Speaker 1: obviously so you actually this is something you mentioned off

27:57 Speaker 1: air too. You've also been a drummer, right, yes, so

28:00 Speaker 1: obviously with drums, you know, that's the one instrument where

28:04 Speaker 1: typically someone's using all four of their limbs. So maybe

28:07 Speaker 1: it wasn't challenging. I mean, was it challenging learn to

28:09 Speaker 1: do well?

28:10 Speaker 3: No, I mean there was a little bit of time,

28:11 Speaker 3: but it came pretty natural because I tap my foot

28:14 Speaker 3: when I play. I'm really excited to tempo and feeling

28:19 Speaker 3: like I guess I hate the word but groove of

28:23 Speaker 3: what I'm doing. But I was just talking with a

28:25 Speaker 3: friend of mine the other day. While I'm doing it,

28:28 Speaker 3: I'm not thinking about everything I'm doing all at once.

28:31 Speaker 3: It's automatic, like it's just I'm just doing it. Like

28:35 Speaker 3: and if I'm singing, my concentration is on the singing.

28:40 Speaker 3: If I'm playing guitar solo, my concentrations on the guitar solo,

28:43 Speaker 3: what my feet are doing. I mean, I'm aware of them,

28:46 Speaker 3: but I'm not. If I start thinking about it, I

28:49 Speaker 3: will crash. And it's funny because I am I'm not

28:53 Speaker 3: a very coordinated person.

28:55 Speaker 1: Really.

28:55 Speaker 3: I joke with my old lady all the time, like

28:58 Speaker 3: gravity is a lot stronger around me than anywhere else.

29:01 Speaker 3: Drop stuff, always bumping into things. Oh it look like

29:05 Speaker 3: a moron when I'm loading stuff around. But when I'm

29:08 Speaker 3: sitting playing, yeah, it seems very graceful.

29:12 Speaker 1: It's like I am just not I can absolutely relate

29:16 Speaker 1: to that. Yeah. So yeah, so when you yeah, I

29:23 Speaker 1: remember the first time I saw somebody do anything like

29:25 Speaker 1: that was uh, John Hot years ago. Boy, this must

29:29 Speaker 1: have been like twenty years ago. I saw John Hyatt

29:31 Speaker 1: live and conquered and and it was cool. You know,

29:34 Speaker 1: he doesn't and he doesn't have like a little drum

29:36 Speaker 1: kit or anything. He would just stand out with his guitar,

29:39 Speaker 1: but he had there was a microphone obviously on the floor.

29:42 Speaker 1: They had the floor micd and he would, you know,

29:44 Speaker 1: start tapping his foot and it just sounded so cool though. Yeah,

29:46 Speaker 1: when he when he started doing that, because it it

29:48 Speaker 1: surprises the audience a little bit too, because you know,

29:51 Speaker 1: he's just out there with his guitar, so you think

29:53 Speaker 1: he's just because it was an acoustic show. Obviously, he

29:55 Speaker 1: did a lot of tours where he played with the

29:56 Speaker 1: full band, but this particular tour is just an acoustic

29:59 Speaker 1: tour and it was just him the guitar, so you

30:01 Speaker 1: almost don't expect it. And then he starts tapping and

30:03 Speaker 1: there's obviously a mic on the floor. It's like, oh,

30:05 Speaker 1: that sounds really good.

30:06 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's great. I mean, I've seen before I

30:09 Speaker 3: started doing this, I had seen a few one man

30:11 Speaker 3: bands perform, and I remember loving it, but also thinking

30:16 Speaker 3: like I could do that. M like I could do that,

30:19 Speaker 3: and I'd even tell people, you know, I could do that. Yeah,

30:23 Speaker 3: And eventually I did that well during COVID times my

30:27 Speaker 3: band wasn't playing, of course, yeah, and I got really bored.

30:30 Speaker 3: So that was when I started like practicing it and

30:34 Speaker 3: doing it and putting up videos and stuff. And then

30:37 Speaker 3: once things started opening back up, I started playing with

30:41 Speaker 3: the drummer again and that was fine. And then, like

30:44 Speaker 3: I said, when I moved up to Auburn, Maine, I

30:47 Speaker 3: decided to just do it one man band, but no,

30:52 Speaker 3: I mean people have been doing it since forever. Yeah,

30:55 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a I like it. It's kind

30:58 Speaker 3: of a Carneye Carnie trick. You know, it's it's it's

31:01 Speaker 3: a sideshow thing, and it's it's I try not the

31:06 Speaker 3: I'm serious. The songs there can be serious. They're funny

31:09 Speaker 3: and like, I'm serious about that, but I also realize

31:12 Speaker 3: it's pretty ridiculous and it's fun it's funny. Sure, it's

31:16 Speaker 3: funny to watch. Ye, some people when they're watching it,

31:18 Speaker 3: they're just like, oh yeah, it's.

31:20 Speaker 1: Just I love it.

31:21 Speaker 2: It comes out of one person. Yeah, I think it's cool.

31:24 Speaker 2: You've surrounded yourself with ways, in different ways to express yourself,

31:27 Speaker 2: and I really enjoy it.

31:30 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, but it is I understand. I

31:33 Speaker 3: recognize that it's pretty funny.

31:38 Speaker 1: We should play another one. Let's see should we play?

31:41 Speaker 5: What?

31:41 Speaker 1: Should we play?

31:42 Speaker 3: Oh? How She Dances is a fun one.

31:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to learn about why you covered that,

31:47 Speaker 2: because I don't know if you want to talk about

31:49 Speaker 2: an hour after, But like I was hoping that that

31:51 Speaker 2: would be the song i'd learn more about.

31:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd heard, Oh yeah, I had heard it's I

31:56 Speaker 3: didn't write this, you know. It's I'd heard one of

31:59 Speaker 3: my favorite artists, Taff Falco and the Panther Burns, do

32:04 Speaker 3: this song, and I remember I just loved it. I

32:06 Speaker 3: loved the whole Spieley gives and I remember thinking like,

32:10 Speaker 3: I could do this song, yeah, a long time ago,

32:12 Speaker 3: and then I like looked it up and realized, like,

32:16 Speaker 3: you know, I didn't think it was his song, but

32:18 Speaker 3: turns out it's just this old vaudevillian song from the

32:23 Speaker 3: like nineteen fifteen or something like that, and I was like, well,

32:27 Speaker 3: and this doesn't belong to anybody. I could definitely do

32:29 Speaker 3: this song. And you know, I think, like any song

32:32 Speaker 3: like that, it gets changed. So this is my version.

32:35 Speaker 3: And I grew up in Old Orchard Beach, Maine, which

32:40 Speaker 3: you know, I'm part Carney. Like that was downtown Old Orchard.

32:44 Speaker 3: That's a lot of us who grew up there, especially

32:48 Speaker 3: like the time I grew up there, we started working downtown.

32:50 Speaker 3: I had my first job downtown hustling Taurus when I

32:54 Speaker 3: was like twelve years old, you know, And a lot

32:57 Speaker 3: of it's hustling Taurus. Some of it's just it's like

33:00 Speaker 3: food service. Some of them is trying to rope people

33:02 Speaker 3: in just rip them off, playing an impossible game that

33:05 Speaker 3: they're not going to win, you know. And I just

33:10 Speaker 3: the whole art of the circus and the traveling people

33:16 Speaker 3: just fleecing roubes. I just think it's hilarious and like

33:20 Speaker 3: humans are so easily manipulated and tricked into doing dumb

33:25 Speaker 3: stuff if they're told, yes, this is the right decision.

33:29 Speaker 1: Why is Old Orchard Beach like that specifically, just because well, it's.

33:33 Speaker 3: A tourist town, but it's one of the places in

33:36 Speaker 3: the Northeast. It's a working class vacation spot. It's where

33:41 Speaker 3: working people can afford to go, where working people can

33:45 Speaker 3: afford to take their families and keep them entertained. There's

33:47 Speaker 3: games and rides. It's cheaper. I mean, it's not cheap,

33:51 Speaker 3: but it's cheaper than going to a gun Quit or

33:55 Speaker 3: Kenny Bunk or Booth Bay Harbor or Kadia or anywhere

33:59 Speaker 3: like that. It's it's it's kind of low grade entertainment

34:04 Speaker 3: for regular folks, okay, And so you get a lot

34:08 Speaker 3: of you know, working class people. You get some affluent people,

34:11 Speaker 3: but most for the most part, it's just regular folks.

34:15 Speaker 1: Oh, that's interesting.

34:16 Speaker 3: Okay.

34:17 Speaker 1: I was partly curious too, because I think I've only

34:19 Speaker 1: been there once. But the first time I ever saw

34:21 Speaker 1: Kiss was it older?

34:22 Speaker 3: Oh there you go. Yeah, Yeah, that's a good band

34:25 Speaker 3: for that town.

34:26 Speaker 1: There you go interesting. Yeah, all right, So we're gonna

34:30 Speaker 1: give this a spend. So this is See I didn't

34:31 Speaker 1: even know this was a cover. Yeah when I when

34:33 Speaker 1: I listened to it.

34:35 Speaker 3: It's royalty. I wouldn't record a song that wasn't.

34:39 Speaker 2: I didn't know if you paid.

34:41 Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, all right, cool, all right, let's give

34:43 Speaker 1: this a spin. This is how she dances, and this

34:46 Speaker 1: is crime Caleb.

35:00 Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen are right this way.

35:01 Speaker 8: See the greatest conglomeration of curiosities ever gathered under one

35:05 Speaker 8: canvas tent. See the Indian rubber Boy. See two ton

35:11 Speaker 8: Tiny the back of Lady. See Prince Jujububbo the sword swallower.

35:16 Speaker 8: He is also the snake Charmer.

35:19 Speaker 9: See the Lovely.

35:20 Speaker 8: Princess Karma performer spectacular dance sismond It high above the

35:24 Speaker 8: heads of the audience.

35:25 Speaker 6: On a palet's surface, no larger than a silver dive.

35:30 Speaker 8: She performs her dancity accompaniment to a strange Tom Tom orchestra,

35:35 Speaker 8: lit by a myriad array of thousands of tiny electric

35:38 Speaker 8: light bombs.

35:40 Speaker 6: Every nerve, every muscle, every fiber of her body is

35:43 Speaker 6: shimmy's like jelly in the bowl.

35:45 Speaker 8: So bring your friends, your neighbors, and your children, or

35:48 Speaker 8: they may reproach you in.

35:50 Speaker 6: Later life for this un caught, for lack of their education.

35:54 Speaker 8: It only cost a dime two nichols one tenth part

35:57 Speaker 8: of a dollar.

35:58 Speaker 6: You may receive instructions, but push don't show. There's room

36:03 Speaker 6: for one and all.

36:05 Speaker 4: Bucko man stood outside another great side show.

36:09 Speaker 6: Wild to ride right this week we have.

36:12 Speaker 8: The main attraction with us today, the dancing princess Lemental.

36:19 Speaker 6: She don't move her feet at all, saying she drew

36:22 Speaker 6: up the suns in two distractions.

36:26 Speaker 8: Well hire room Green pulled out a time, he said, boys,

36:29 Speaker 8: I'm here and a.

36:30 Speaker 6: Half the time, so give me easy now front as

36:34 Speaker 6: far as I'm al. Willy stayed in there four.

36:38 Speaker 8: Hours about and last they threw Paul higher out.

36:42 Speaker 6: And as they did, she dances. Know how she dances.

36:51 Speaker 8: I've never seen such a room in my life.

36:56 Speaker 6: It beats that dancing costole what boys, you all and

36:59 Speaker 6: stay at home and of all your cha chen to

37:02 Speaker 6: your She wiggles, Oh, she wiggles, she shimmy is just

37:11 Speaker 6: like chili in both.

37:17 Speaker 8: She is never steaming streets of cairos.

37:23 Speaker 3: I've known from a baby.

37:25 Speaker 6: She's from my.

37:28 Speaker 1: Town.

37:32 Speaker 6: Like this way, ladies and.

37:33 Speaker 8: Gentlemen, Right this way to see the incredible despicable geek

37:36 Speaker 8: captured in the wilds of Old Orchard Beach Main, where

37:39 Speaker 8: he was incarcerated in the attic by his parents at

37:42 Speaker 8: the tender age of fourteen. In order to survive, he

37:46 Speaker 8: learned to eat my rats, live chickens, and other living organisms.

37:51 Speaker 6: Yes, friends, heats.

37:56 Speaker 1: Oh that is Oh how she dances. That is Crime

38:03 Speaker 1: Caleb from the album Cold Heart Volume one. Hey, where's

38:07 Speaker 1: the name come from? By the way, Crime Caleb.

38:10 Speaker 3: Good question. Well, one of my I don't really believe

38:14 Speaker 3: in heroes, but let's say I was someone who believed

38:16 Speaker 3: in a hero. Sure one of them would be Scream

38:19 Speaker 3: and Jay Hawkins Scream and Jay Howland Wolf. There's another

38:23 Speaker 3: guy I like named Lonesome Wyatt. I like the you

38:26 Speaker 3: know that title in Yeah my name you know it's

38:32 Speaker 3: Caleb Aaron Colthard, and Colthard is one of those names

38:35 Speaker 3: like in a loud room. If if I tell people

38:38 Speaker 3: my name, they say what was that? And I'm like,

38:39 Speaker 3: exactly right right, And it was actually my friend Heather,

38:44 Speaker 3: who painted the cover of the new album. When she

38:49 Speaker 3: learned my real last last name, she was like cold

38:51 Speaker 3: heart and I was like, yeah, exactly, oh you know yeah,

38:54 Speaker 3: And I had heard that before. An old teacher in

38:57 Speaker 3: school used to say I had a cold heart, but no, yeah, crying.

39:02 Speaker 3: Caleb was just it's just I needed a name. Yeah,

39:05 Speaker 3: and that was came up with it and I asked

39:08 Speaker 3: a few people. I was like, what do you think

39:09 Speaker 3: of that? And they're like that's good, Yeah, all right,

39:11 Speaker 3: yeah yeah yeah.

39:13 Speaker 1: Well, by the way, Miriam said in the chat room,

39:15 Speaker 1: feeling a little Tom Waits thing in this, is he

39:17 Speaker 1: an influence on you? I didn't think of that until

39:21 Speaker 1: Miriam said that, but yeah, I can. I'm gonna hear it.

39:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to to an extent. There's like three

39:26 Speaker 3: Tom Waits records I really like, Yeah and yeah, I

39:31 Speaker 3: like those three albums.

39:34 Speaker 1: He's a unique.

39:35 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, he's not my favorite, but I definitely

39:38 Speaker 3: the songs I like by him, I really really really

39:41 Speaker 3: like Yeah. But I'm I don't know if he's so

39:45 Speaker 3: much an influence. Maybe just it's in there somewhere. We

39:50 Speaker 3: know he's not a hero, no heroes. Yeah, it's good time.

39:57 Speaker 2: I felt like I had, like I told when Dan came,

40:00 Speaker 2: and I feel the same way about you.

40:01 Speaker 3: I woke up.

40:02 Speaker 2: I was in my house last night, and you're ready

40:04 Speaker 2: for bed as like musical Santa's.

40:05 Speaker 3: Coming tomorrow, musical.

40:07 Speaker 4: See.

40:07 Speaker 2: You may not be my hero, but you're my musical Santa.

40:10 Speaker 2: I couldn't sleep last night. I was I haven't actually

40:12 Speaker 2: met him. We've been talking online, so I booked him

40:16 Speaker 2: and just getting to know each other. But I'm like,

40:17 Speaker 2: I actually get to meet him.

40:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's cool. That's cool, very cool. Now, what

40:23 Speaker 1: about so when is uh have you started working on

40:26 Speaker 1: Coldhart Volume two yet?

40:27 Speaker 3: Or well it's I okay. I put on an album

40:34 Speaker 3: called night Hoss a few years ago and that was

40:36 Speaker 3: like my first solo record, and after that, over the

40:42 Speaker 3: last few years, I've recorded a lot and then that

40:48 Speaker 3: was going to be the next album. But and then

40:50 Speaker 3: out of nowhere, I got a show in Massachusetts and

40:52 Speaker 3: I decided to make a weekend of it and book

40:55 Speaker 3: another show while I was down there and studio time

40:59 Speaker 3: and recorded and I was like, boom, that's the record.

41:01 Speaker 3: So I just put that out. But I still have

41:03 Speaker 3: all these recordings I've done that I really like.

41:05 Speaker 1: OK.

41:06 Speaker 3: I think those are probably gonna come out in some

41:10 Speaker 3: shape or form. But cold Heart Volume two, I don't

41:14 Speaker 3: even know if that will be the next album, but

41:16 Speaker 3: there will be one. I imagine it will be another

41:20 Speaker 3: one man band, like live in the studio, once I

41:24 Speaker 3: get enough songs that I want to use that way,

41:28 Speaker 3: because the other stuff I record, like my first album

41:31 Speaker 3: night Hoss and singles I've put out. When I record those,

41:35 Speaker 3: I actually record. I play drums, and I play bass,

41:38 Speaker 3: and I do guitar and couples. Like I record it

41:41 Speaker 3: as a whole band, I'm still playing everything. I might

41:43 Speaker 3: have a guest play organ or something. I don't know

41:46 Speaker 3: how to play on it. But the live show is

41:51 Speaker 3: one man band. And that's why this new album is

41:54 Speaker 3: the closest to like, this is what I sound like live.

41:57 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes

41:59 Speaker 1: sense when you do some of the shows that you do,

42:02 Speaker 1: if you have to play a long time, so you

42:04 Speaker 1: mix in some covers, originals.

42:06 Speaker 3: Yes I do. I do you know old country songs?

42:11 Speaker 3: I I don't do anything I don't like, that's for sure.

42:14 Speaker 3: But I'll do a song I do Bela Lugosi's Dead

42:18 Speaker 3: by the Bow House, a Forest by the Cure Echo

42:23 Speaker 3: and the Bunnyman Morrissey.

42:27 Speaker 2: You did one recently that or I don't know if

42:28 Speaker 2: you did it recently, but I watched it recently with

42:31 Speaker 2: the opening for Rocky Horror Pictures show.

42:33 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Rocky Horror. That's a fun one, the science

42:36 Speaker 3: fiction double feature. Yeah, I'd do that one. Yeah, Kinks.

42:42 Speaker 3: You know, there's some songs I've known my whole life,

42:48 Speaker 3: but I've never actually played that. Like I played a

42:50 Speaker 3: show in Lewiston, near where I live, and I was

42:54 Speaker 3: playing a two hour show and on the way there

42:56 Speaker 3: I heard a whole lot of shaking going on by

42:58 Speaker 3: Jerry Lee Lewis. Now I've heard that song thousands of

43:01 Speaker 3: times probably sure, and I was like, I could play this.

43:04 Speaker 3: So while I was playing, I just start playing it.

43:06 Speaker 3: Oh really, it's not it's three chords. Just had to

43:08 Speaker 3: remember the words and that was a blast, you know,

43:11 Speaker 3: like I Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard like you know

43:16 Speaker 3: stuff I do. Yeah, I do a lot of covers.

43:18 Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like though some of the

43:20 Speaker 1: covers you do might be there might be instances where

43:23 Speaker 1: people who are there don't necessarily realize their covers right,

43:25 Speaker 1: because some of these not in not standard issue covers.

43:29 Speaker 3: I mean, I often I try not to take you know,

43:32 Speaker 3: I'll mention like the songs written by so and so

43:34 Speaker 3: or afterwards, I'll say it whether they hear it or not.

43:38 Speaker 3: But it's great if I'm playing for a group of like,

43:43 Speaker 3: you know, working dudes who like country music, and then

43:46 Speaker 3: I throw an echo and the Bunnyman song they've never heard,

43:48 Speaker 3: but they like it, or a cure song, but they

43:51 Speaker 3: like it and they don't even realize it's a like

43:54 Speaker 3: if they heard the original, they probably like, what right?

43:58 Speaker 3: I really enjoy that? Or the flip side of it,

44:01 Speaker 3: doing you know a country song that a different audience

44:06 Speaker 3: might not.

44:07 Speaker 2: That you could do a sick rap cover if you

44:10 Speaker 2: found the right rap song.

44:11 Speaker 3: I used to, but in this day and age, I

44:13 Speaker 3: don't do the ones I used to do because a

44:16 Speaker 3: sense of humor. Sure, and of course there's nothing malicious

44:21 Speaker 3: in in my my but I'm like, I'm not gonna

44:26 Speaker 3: do those anymore.

44:28 Speaker 1: Understood, Yeah, understood, Yeah, yeah, oh, the time goes quickly.

44:33 Speaker 1: I want to make sure we I want to make

44:34 Speaker 1: sure we get one more song in. But I also

44:37 Speaker 1: want to remind everybody, especially for people who are just

44:39 Speaker 1: joining us, about the show coming up at at Prayers,

44:42 Speaker 1: I keep doing that a listening room. I think I'm

44:46 Speaker 1: suffering from adult on set dyslexia. Forgive me the listening

44:50 Speaker 1: room at Prayers of Nature.

44:51 Speaker 2: But you can find everything at Prayers of Nature dot com.

44:54 Speaker 2: So I've made it a little difficult for you.

44:56 Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe that's why I keep inspiring.

44:58 Speaker 3: In my brain.

45:00 Speaker 2: You can reserve seats for as little as twelve dollars.

45:02 Speaker 2: You can come see Caleb, which is quite a steal

45:06 Speaker 2: if you ask me. And it's September, I'm sorry. Saturday,

45:10 Speaker 2: July nineteenth. The doors open at six thirty, the show

45:14 Speaker 2: starts at seven. Okay, yeah, Prayers at Nature dot com.

45:18 Speaker 2: You can reserve a seat. I won't turn people away

45:20 Speaker 2: if they show up at the door. It's just if

45:22 Speaker 2: you want to be able to sit down. Yeah, you're

45:24 Speaker 2: going to want to go online and reserve a seat,

45:26 Speaker 2: but if you show up, you know I'm not going

45:28 Speaker 2: to be like, go away, right right, I'm just gonna Yeah,

45:32 Speaker 2: I call it the Wallflower Pass. You still pay, but

45:35 Speaker 2: you're going to be standing. So yeah, yeah, I'm really

45:38 Speaker 2: excited about it. We also have I should mention before Caleb,

45:42 Speaker 2: there is two other acts. There's one on Thursday called

45:45 Speaker 2: Blame It On Sally. It's a duo upright bass guitar.

45:50 Speaker 2: The woman who plays upright bass is actually an artist

45:52 Speaker 2: at the mill that I'm in, So she's an art

45:55 Speaker 2: professor and she's a painter. So she's going to be

45:59 Speaker 2: opening her studio for her show for people to show

46:01 Speaker 2: up early and enjoy her art before she actually performs.

46:04 Speaker 2: So that's Blame It On Sally on Thursday. And then

46:07 Speaker 2: Tom Russo, who you've met, my cousin, is performing.

46:10 Speaker 1: He's been on a few times.

46:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's coming that Friday, and once again they all

46:15 Speaker 2: start at seven, open at six thirty. And then yeah,

46:17 Speaker 2: Caleb on the nineteen oh and it was Caleb.

46:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, excellent, And Caleb, what should people know about?

46:23 Speaker 1: Where to find you online? Where to get your albums?

46:25 Speaker 3: And oh, just you can google crying Caleb, You're gonna

46:29 Speaker 3: find me. But I'm on all the social media stuff,

46:34 Speaker 3: well not all of them, but not OnlyFans, not on OnlyFans.

46:38 Speaker 1: It's hard to be on all of them. There's so many.

46:39 Speaker 3: But I I say, you know, Instagram, Facebook, you can

46:43 Speaker 3: find Crying Caleb YouTube. I have a lot of stuff

46:46 Speaker 3: on YouTube that I don't put on the other stuff.

46:50 Speaker 3: And you know I have a band camp. But you

46:53 Speaker 3: can find you can find me. Yeah, you can find me.

46:56 Speaker 3: It's not hard to find ye. People who say they

46:58 Speaker 3: can't find me, it's like you didn't right, right, Yeah,

47:01 Speaker 3: And I don't blame you. This is who's got time

47:04 Speaker 3: this work. It's hard, man.

47:07 Speaker 1: I've always I've always thought it's funny when somebody says, oh, yeah,

47:10 Speaker 1: I looked for you online. I couldn't find you. It's

47:11 Speaker 1: like you try, you couldn't find a guy named Matt Connorton. Like,

47:17 Speaker 1: how many Matt Connortons do you think there are out there?

47:19 Speaker 1: There is one other one, but he's my uncle, so

47:22 Speaker 1: he doesn't count. Oh uncle Matt, Yeah, Uncle Natt. Well,

47:27 Speaker 1: very good, and we will. So we'll close out with

47:30 Speaker 1: this track to Live and Love in the Shadow of Fear.

47:33 Speaker 3: Oh okay, it's an ominous title. Yeah, and this is

47:36 Speaker 3: an episode of the Outer Limits, The New Outer Limits.

47:39 Speaker 3: My girlfriend always says, stop calling it the new Outer

47:41 Speaker 3: Limits because it's from the nineties, because the original show

47:44 Speaker 3: was in the sixties.

47:44 Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't even realize that there's going to reboot.

47:46 Speaker 3: Yeah there was in the nineties, Okay, but this episode,

47:50 Speaker 3: particular episode is about someone who realizes there's something wrong

47:53 Speaker 3: with the moon and that the sun probably went nova

47:58 Speaker 3: in that as morning come, everyone's going to be incinerated.

48:02 Speaker 3: So he decides to spend his last night on Earth

48:08 Speaker 3: coming clean with the Galley has a crush on that

48:10 Speaker 3: works at the bookstore, and he asks her out on

48:13 Speaker 3: a date and you know, spends what they believe to

48:17 Speaker 3: be their last night on Earth together, but she doesn't

48:19 Speaker 3: realize the Earth is gonna be gone in the morning.

48:22 Speaker 3: When she finds out, she's kind of angry, like why

48:25 Speaker 3: would I want to spend the rest of my life

48:27 Speaker 3: with you? Like I barely know you. But it's Outer Limits,

48:30 Speaker 3: so it gets more complicated. But anyway, I just love

48:34 Speaker 3: that idea of the end coming and just knowing when

48:38 Speaker 3: it's coming and being like, what do you want to do,

48:40 Speaker 3: And it's like, well, I know what i'd like to do.

48:41 Speaker 3: I'd like to spend it with the woman I love.

48:44 Speaker 3: So that's what this song.

48:46 Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, very cool, crying Caleb, thank you so much,

48:49 Speaker 1: thank you, and of course Darling Hill, thank you. Oh

48:52 Speaker 1: and thank you for the wonderful sticker too. I'll hold

48:54 Speaker 1: that up for people watching online so they can see

48:55 Speaker 1: it one more time for the listening room at Prayers

48:58 Speaker 1: of Nature. Set right yet, it very good, and we

49:02 Speaker 1: will close out today's show with this. This is to

49:05 Speaker 1: live in love in the shadow of fear, And this

49:07 Speaker 1: is Crian Caleb.

49:27 Speaker 3: I want to spend.

49:30 Speaker 6: His night with you.

49:36 Speaker 7: Because in the morning it'll all be gone.

49:44 Speaker 8: Nothing really mans with nothing.

49:51 Speaker 3: He's no more now, nothing is no.

49:56 Speaker 9: More spilling weird.

50:11 Speaker 6: And old youth in my art.

50:15 Speaker 10: While in all schools dart into closed eyes, we see

50:22 Speaker 10: shimmer rings, sills, breadles as the lightning exists forth the

50:30 Speaker 10: last time, the futures is.

50:52 Speaker 6: Silas and it's cool. It's a hostile where we won't

51:01 Speaker 6: be long. So it's spend the night doing.

51:10 Speaker 3: Those things we saw love to.

51:14 Speaker 6: Do, like watching movies and telling Joe's.

51:23 Speaker 1: Spending me.

51:32 Speaker 6: And Aldien in my arms.

51:36 Speaker 4: While it all.

51:39 Speaker 6: Starts to close nyes, we see shimmericks.

51:45 Speaker 10: Still over as the light exists for the last time.

51:56 Speaker 6: It was the last time. U n I fading as

52:05 Speaker 6: on into.

52:07 Speaker 9: The Toparness un I, burning as once into as ashes,

52:19 Speaker 9: un I fading as once into the.

52:26 Speaker 6: Boy, U n I, bursting as one as one hard