Eddie Sing & The 31 Days | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: Get Commanda, don't get supremely Da Megzi coming.

0:10 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome here. It is the podcast version of

0:13 Speaker 2: Matt Connorton Unleashed, and it is oh No, November eleventh,

0:18 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. I'm used to doing this on Saturday morning,

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0:36 Speaker 2: And we have joining us today right now. It is

0:40 Speaker 2: a little bit before six pm in the Eastern time

0:42 Speaker 2: zone and Eddie Singh is with us live on the podcast.

0:46 Speaker 2: Hello Eddie, Hi, how you doing. Matt very well. I'm

0:50 Speaker 2: excited to talk to you, as you know, you know

0:51 Speaker 2: we talked the other day and I was dying to

0:55 Speaker 2: have you on the show because well, we should start.

0:58 Speaker 2: I guess we should start with what you're doing currently, right,

1:00 Speaker 2: and maybe we can kind of work our way backwards

1:02 Speaker 2: a little bit. But you've got this great new release

1:06 Speaker 2: and let me get this this. This picture is so

1:08 Speaker 2: cool too. This album artwork. Of course it's American Split,

1:13 Speaker 2: but it's actually American Split. AI is officially the name

1:17 Speaker 2: of the album, right.

1:18 Speaker 3: Correct, correct, because the original I had an original album

1:21 Speaker 3: two years ago that was released on January sixth, twenty

1:25 Speaker 3: twenty three, with intention for the date, you know, symbolic intention,

1:32 Speaker 3: and I've yeah, I've remade the album using AI tools

1:36 Speaker 3: and I've really pleased with the results, and it's it's

1:41 Speaker 3: really helped my vision come alive for all the songs.

1:45 Speaker 2: So part of what is so interesting about this, well,

1:47 Speaker 2: there's there's many things that are interesting to me about it.

1:49 Speaker 2: But and the album is great. So the original album

1:53 Speaker 2: is great and you can hear it on the website,

1:55 Speaker 2: excuse me, but but the AI version is even better

2:00 Speaker 2: and and it's to me, it was kind of interesting

2:04 Speaker 2: to sort of compare and contrast the two because I

2:07 Speaker 2: actually heard the new version first, because you had sent

2:10 Speaker 2: me the entire album, the AI version, and then I

2:12 Speaker 2: went back to the website and it was for me

2:16 Speaker 2: hearing the AI version first, it was almost like the

2:20 Speaker 2: like the original version, It's almost like hearing the demos

2:23 Speaker 2: of of of what the final product is. But I

2:26 Speaker 2: like the you know, but so the original versions obviously

2:28 Speaker 2: are a bit more raw in that sense, but I

2:31 Speaker 2: like them both. But one of the things that we

2:33 Speaker 2: discuss a lot on the program is AI and it's

2:36 Speaker 2: impact on AI and all sorts of creative arts, but

2:41 Speaker 2: especially in music. It's really interesting to me and and

2:44 Speaker 2: to our audience and a lot of our audience as

2:46 Speaker 2: people in the industry too. So it's it's something that

2:48 Speaker 2: directly affects everyone. But but the things that you can

2:52 Speaker 2: do and what you've done, and we should be very

2:55 Speaker 2: clear about this for our audience too. It's not like

2:58 Speaker 2: you know, you didn't. You didn't just put a bunch

3:00 Speaker 2: of prompts in to Suno or something and create these songs.

3:04 Speaker 2: You made the songs first, but then you used AI

3:07 Speaker 2: to kind of change and enhance them, And I'm curious

3:10 Speaker 2: to know more about that process.

3:12 Speaker 3: It was it was the highlight of my life, taking

3:17 Speaker 3: making Americans Split AI, but taking so many of my

3:20 Speaker 3: old songs that were just me and a guitar or

3:24 Speaker 3: me and a piano that I literally recorded on my

3:27 Speaker 3: phone and then use the tools I did use Suno,

3:31 Speaker 3: so I'd feed it in, I'd feed in the lyrics

3:35 Speaker 3: so and then you have adjuster so you can make

3:37 Speaker 3: it sound more like you or less like you. Yeah,

3:40 Speaker 3: mostly you have to type in precisely what you want.

3:44 Speaker 3: So whenever I write a song, I always hear the

3:48 Speaker 3: full version in my head.

3:50 Speaker 2: Yeah.

3:51 Speaker 3: This was just really just luxury that I now can

3:57 Speaker 3: you know, have the ability to say, all right, I

3:59 Speaker 3: want to extra percussion here, I want a walking bassline here,

4:03 Speaker 3: I want a female singer to do harmony on a

4:06 Speaker 3: specific section. And that's what I did with American Split AI.

4:11 Speaker 3: I fed the original album in, went song by song

4:14 Speaker 3: and spent hours and hours. I mean, it wasn't like,

4:17 Speaker 3: you know, I just pressed the button. Yeah, you can't

4:20 Speaker 3: do that with Suno, and it's it's a great tool

4:22 Speaker 3: for that. But I really think with there, they now

4:25 Speaker 3: have a production studio where you can manipulate all the

4:29 Speaker 3: stems and you know, really get to work at it.

4:32 Speaker 3: So I use that as well. And I was just

4:37 Speaker 3: really pleased with and I recognize that, you know, AI

4:41 Speaker 3: is like, you know, it's kind of like the Boogeyman

4:44 Speaker 3: for for musicians and for performers. Now, uh and and

4:48 Speaker 3: with good reason. I'm I'm very into AI. I'm getting

4:51 Speaker 3: a phone call very into AI in general and the

4:57 Speaker 3: whole Edny sing grew out of an AI concept. He

5:03 Speaker 3: grew out of this game called Scaped in Fronted where

5:07 Speaker 3: Eddie Singh comes back from the future as you can

5:10 Speaker 3: see from the picture, to save humanity from the rabots spiders,

5:15 Speaker 3: who are an AI platform that is rewriting the Internet.

5:20 Speaker 3: And this was again, I mean, the album was a

5:23 Speaker 3: long time in the making. It came out in two

5:24 Speaker 3: thousand and three, but I've been working on it for

5:26 Speaker 3: years and so to actually see, like have the AI

5:31 Speaker 3: catch up to the storyline, it just seems like the

5:34 Speaker 3: perfect time to utilize those tools. The ray Bat spiders

5:38 Speaker 3: are basically changing the Internet and giving machines and bots

5:44 Speaker 3: credit for where where humans used to have it. Like,

5:49 Speaker 3: that's the storyline.

5:50 Speaker 2: That's interesting, kind of changing history in a sense. I'm

5:55 Speaker 2: fascinated too by you know, and I think I said

5:58 Speaker 2: this to you on the phone too. It's prophetic, right

6:00 Speaker 2: you because you this originally two thousand and three is

6:03 Speaker 2: when you came up with this concept, right.

6:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was back in the day. The truth is

6:08 Speaker 3: Eddie Singh is the mastermind. My real name is Brian Mannix,

6:12 Speaker 3: and I used to be a teacher and I developed

6:15 Speaker 3: this game called scaped in FROMPTED which means create your

6:19 Speaker 3: future in Danish, and it was an alternate reality game

6:22 Speaker 3: for education and it was played in like over one

6:25 Speaker 3: hundred and forty countries around the world. And I got,

6:28 Speaker 3: you know, some awards for some of the stuff I

6:31 Speaker 3: did with that, and it was really attached to like

6:35 Speaker 3: social studies and having the students go and check primary sources.

6:40 Speaker 3: So I like altered a bunch of sites and put

6:42 Speaker 3: up some fake stuff and then we have clues and

6:46 Speaker 3: hopefully in a couple of weeks, this is all going

6:48 Speaker 3: to be digital. Because the first album had the cover

6:51 Speaker 3: of it was was the board game and that led

6:55 Speaker 3: you into the arg and now it's just going to

6:58 Speaker 3: be like Shazami the songs and getting clues and challenges

7:03 Speaker 3: and stuff.

7:04 Speaker 2: Well that's really cool. So this is this whole sort

7:05 Speaker 2: of this sort of Eddie sing universe. It's like, it's

7:08 Speaker 2: it's pretty amazing.

7:11 Speaker 3: It has because I made a video called The Story

7:14 Speaker 3: of Eddie Singh Yeah, probably about ten years ago, and

7:19 Speaker 3: it is it feels like most of the weird thing.

7:22 Speaker 1: You know.

7:22 Speaker 3: My brother said, my god, it's so so odd, you know,

7:26 Speaker 3: he didn't understand it all and now I feel like

7:29 Speaker 3: with the Internet being half AI, now like it came true.

7:33 Speaker 3: Almost yeah.

7:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, And tell us about Eddie Sing. Tell us about

7:38 Speaker 2: the character of Eddie Sing, because as you mentioned, you know,

7:40 Speaker 2: you did reveal your your true identity. But who is

7:45 Speaker 2: Eddie singh.

7:46 Speaker 3: Eddie Sing is the character that I was able to

7:49 Speaker 3: create and step into. Eddie Sing is a lefty. I

7:52 Speaker 3: learned to play pool lefty, which was helpful and a

7:56 Speaker 3: little bit of hustling once in a while, but I

8:01 Speaker 3: really adopted this personality and stepped into it somewhat to

8:06 Speaker 3: take away my nerves and to just be like a

8:08 Speaker 3: ziggy stardust kind of character, you know. I mean, Bono's

8:12 Speaker 3: done it, Lady Gaga has done it, and I wanted

8:15 Speaker 3: to create this persona who's the leader of the you know,

8:20 Speaker 3: the resistance against the corruption is what we called it

8:23 Speaker 3: in the game by the Raybot Spiders. And the whole

8:27 Speaker 3: idea is that I lean with the game. On the album,

8:31 Speaker 3: it's fun stuff. I mean it's a lot of it's

8:33 Speaker 3: serious stuff, but a lot of it is just fun

8:36 Speaker 3: stuff where you get to share, you know, with someone

8:39 Speaker 3: that you love. A video on TikTok, or you need

8:43 Speaker 3: to tell tell someone that you had an argument, that

8:45 Speaker 3: you're sorry, or whatever it may be. There's literally, like

8:49 Speaker 3: I think it's like six hundred different options within the

8:53 Speaker 3: album once once the scanner thing is up and running.

8:57 Speaker 2: Oh wow, we should mention too. You've just got a

9:00 Speaker 2: really great article review in indie boulevard dot com titled

9:06 Speaker 2: the Groundbreaking AI remake of the debut album American Split

9:09 Speaker 2: by Eddy Singing in the thirty one days changes the

9:11 Speaker 2: game's rules. And when I put this up on YouTube

9:16 Speaker 2: after I'll drop a link to this, to this article

9:19 Speaker 2: in there in the description. But really really good, And

9:23 Speaker 2: I mean, how do you feel like do you feel

9:25 Speaker 2: like a trailblazer? Do you feel like you're like like

9:28 Speaker 2: like like or the word groundbreaking. That's a lot to

9:31 Speaker 2: live up to, right, But but you are the first

9:33 Speaker 2: person I've encountered in the industry who has really done

9:36 Speaker 2: something this this interesting and this sort of complex.

9:41 Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that. I don't know if I'm the first,

9:44 Speaker 3: but you know, I've I do think outside of the box.

9:49 Speaker 3: I've always been a creative thinker and someone that that

9:53 Speaker 3: isn't good with structures imposed on me as a teacher.

9:57 Speaker 3: I literally abolished grades at the school I was at

10:01 Speaker 3: after like a three year process of doing the research

10:04 Speaker 3: and everything, and I wrote narratives for the students and

10:08 Speaker 3: focused on their skills and really, you know, I had

10:11 Speaker 3: like a one page thing that I would give to

10:13 Speaker 3: all the students getting so that they'd get to know,

10:16 Speaker 3: you know, the parents would get to know exactly what

10:19 Speaker 3: it meant to get like a seventy seven, you know,

10:22 Speaker 3: And so we abolished it. But with Eddie saying, yeah,

10:26 Speaker 3: I do, I feel like it is a little cutting edge.

10:28 Speaker 3: I mean the Indie Boulevard article was overwhelming, to be

10:32 Speaker 3: honest to read. There were so many quotes in there

10:36 Speaker 3: where I was like, Wow, this is you know, I

10:39 Speaker 3: was humbled and I'm excited. Yeah, I think I think

10:43 Speaker 3: it is a new frontier. I think AI is a

10:45 Speaker 3: tool and it depends how you use it, just like

10:49 Speaker 3: you know, anything else, just like any door system, any

10:52 Speaker 3: vocal effects, any you know, click track timer. I mean,

10:56 Speaker 3: these are automated things that gradually, one by one were

11:00 Speaker 3: not accepted by the industry. I think Boston made their

11:04 Speaker 3: album without a click track because they were so opposed

11:06 Speaker 3: to it. Right, I'm pretty sure that's the case, and

11:11 Speaker 3: I think you know, little by little it does get accepted.

11:14 Speaker 3: I mean this to me, is that just another huge

11:18 Speaker 3: Suno and other apps like it. It's just a huge

11:22 Speaker 3: creative well that people can can gather and use to

11:26 Speaker 3: really make whatever they hear in their head, which I

11:29 Speaker 3: think is a great service to musicians.

11:33 Speaker 2: I agree. Do you think that kind of looking at

11:37 Speaker 2: it from the other side, do you think there's any

11:38 Speaker 2: danger in it? Like you do you think as a

11:40 Speaker 2: creative person, do you feel threatened it in any way

11:43 Speaker 2: like that you can so for example, you know, because

11:45 Speaker 2: you talked about Suono, I've experienced with Suno also, I've

11:48 Speaker 2: I've just but not doing anything like what you've done,

11:51 Speaker 2: but just putting in prompts and telling it, you know,

11:53 Speaker 2: make a song about this, about these concepts in this

11:56 Speaker 2: style and then just seeing what it comes up with.

11:59 Speaker 2: And I've been pretty impressed with what it comes out with.

12:05 Speaker 3: It's really amazing. I mean I had I made, you know,

12:09 Speaker 3: for each song on the album, I probably made forty

12:12 Speaker 3: songs and subscribed it in different ways until yeah. Right,

12:17 Speaker 3: But you can make them quickly if you want, and

12:20 Speaker 3: they all sound good. I mean they really the AI

12:24 Speaker 3: does a great job. I again, mine was a little

12:27 Speaker 3: different because it had my audio as a basis, So

12:30 Speaker 3: I haven't really used it for anything but that. But

12:33 Speaker 3: I know, even if you don't have a song, if

12:35 Speaker 3: you're just a poet, you could certainly put the ad

12:39 Speaker 3: to music. But yeah, I don't. I think it's something

12:42 Speaker 3: that's here to stay. I don't think it's going to

12:44 Speaker 3: be going away. No, but I think it is somewhat

12:47 Speaker 3: of a threat. I mean, it depends if it's it's

12:50 Speaker 3: like anything else, if it's ethically used, if it's used

12:53 Speaker 3: the right way, I think it could be really productive tool.

12:57 Speaker 2: Exactly as you were going through this process using Suno

13:02 Speaker 2: to enhance these songs, did any of them really like, like,

13:09 Speaker 2: how surprised were you, Like, did you know going into

13:12 Speaker 2: going into this, going through this process, were you expecting

13:16 Speaker 2: them to come out as good as they did? Or

13:18 Speaker 2: were you kind of shocked?

13:20 Speaker 3: I was amazed. I was amazed. I mean I was

13:23 Speaker 3: literally the first time I did it, I was just like,

13:25 Speaker 3: oh my god, I just I couldn't believe the sound.

13:30 Speaker 3: And and and again, depending on how you set it up,

13:34 Speaker 3: because there are a lot of different you know, sliders

13:36 Speaker 3: and different ways to make each song you can really have.

13:41 Speaker 3: You know, you can change the song entirely if you want,

13:44 Speaker 3: or you can keep it almost exactly the same. There's

13:47 Speaker 3: a few of the songs again it's all AI, the

13:51 Speaker 3: American split. AI is all AI. My my my own

13:55 Speaker 3: mother doesn't believe me. There's a few songs that they

13:59 Speaker 3: sound so much like me. Yeah, and I get confused.

14:03 Speaker 3: I'm like, is this me singing? You know? It really

14:07 Speaker 3: was spot on. And then I was able to use

14:10 Speaker 3: for some of the songs where I wanted a different

14:12 Speaker 3: type of voice, like stand Up being one of them.

14:16 Speaker 3: I've absolutely loved the voice that I created using Suno

14:20 Speaker 3: and I just think it has this cool vibe and

14:24 Speaker 3: it really adds to the song.

14:28 Speaker 2: So, speaking of the songs, so when when people listen

14:32 Speaker 2: to the entire album, one thing, well, I mean you'll

14:36 Speaker 2: you notice it immediately, you notice it by the second song.

14:38 Speaker 2: Actually that you've got a lot of different genres, sort

14:42 Speaker 2: of a sub genres covered here, right, because the opening track.

14:45 Speaker 2: So when I sat down and listen to it for

14:47 Speaker 2: the first time, I was surprised because the opening track

14:50 Speaker 2: some justice opportunity, I you know, I was like, oh,

14:53 Speaker 2: it's hip hop. I didn't expect this. And then but

14:58 Speaker 2: really really good, like really good, you know, and then

15:02 Speaker 2: it gets and then it gets to the second song

15:05 Speaker 2: and and it's like, oh, this is a change up.

15:08 Speaker 2: And then I wonder, I wonder if this is the

15:10 Speaker 2: style that the rest of the album is going to be,

15:12 Speaker 2: you know. And then it gets to the next song

15:14 Speaker 2: and it's and and You've got a variety of of

15:18 Speaker 2: genres represented here, but they're they're all really well done

15:21 Speaker 2: and and the album as a whole it works. You know,

15:25 Speaker 2: it's not because when you do something like that, you know,

15:29 Speaker 2: it could there's a risk to that. It could it

15:32 Speaker 2: could seem disjointed, it could seem kind of like it's

15:35 Speaker 2: all over the place, or it can all work together.

15:38 Speaker 2: And this album it all works together. Maybe because there's

15:41 Speaker 2: there's kind of a common theme behind it. I'm not sure,

15:44 Speaker 2: but uh, but but it it works. It's really effective

15:48 Speaker 2: and it's a if you listen to the whole thing,

15:51 Speaker 2: and I encourage people to do that. It it kind

15:53 Speaker 2: of makes us really makes a statement, and it makes

15:55 Speaker 2: you think to the lyrics make you think.

15:57 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Yeah, some justice opportunity unity came about

16:02 Speaker 3: years ago when Michael Brown was killed in Ferguson, Missouri.

16:06 Speaker 3: I literally I saw the two news coverages on MSNBC.

16:11 Speaker 3: They were saying there were protesters in the street, and

16:14 Speaker 3: Fox said there was, Uh, there was rioters in the street,

16:18 Speaker 3: of course. And I had been taking a sabbatical to

16:21 Speaker 3: work on a company h that I created called Babysitting Barter. Uh.

16:25 Speaker 3: But this was before care dot com. And I immediately said,

16:30 Speaker 3: you know, I was off and I had I was

16:32 Speaker 3: expecting to go back to teaching the year after if

16:35 Speaker 3: the baby Saint Barty will work out, And I just thought,

16:37 Speaker 3: I have to go there. This is this is My America.

16:40 Speaker 3: That's one of those songs, is this Our America? And

16:43 Speaker 3: so I went there and I was there with when

16:46 Speaker 3: the riots were taking place, and I interviewed all kinds

16:50 Speaker 3: all kinds of people. So the first version has uh,

16:54 Speaker 3: you know, audio clips of all the different people I interviewed,

16:58 Speaker 3: and then the speech at the end, which is on

17:01 Speaker 3: the Everything's on the new one. But the speech at

17:05 Speaker 3: the end was with two guys that I was talking

17:08 Speaker 3: with when we were standing next to the ride police

17:11 Speaker 3: and they were shooting tear gas with tanks and I

17:13 Speaker 3: was like right on the front lines. And it's a

17:17 Speaker 3: lot of it deals with America's issues with racism and

17:22 Speaker 3: just with our political divide, not dealing and not helping,

17:26 Speaker 3: not being fair and being somewhat racist and sexist and homophobic.

17:31 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's kind of the trifecta. And

17:34 Speaker 3: I feel like we're at a real you know, turning

17:37 Speaker 3: point for America right now, and I hope that this

17:40 Speaker 3: kind of talks about the landscape. Is this our America?

17:44 Speaker 3: Stand Up? I wrote the day that Roe Versus Wave

17:48 Speaker 3: was overturned, and I just couldn't believe that mostly that

17:53 Speaker 3: someone that was raped or a victim of incest would

17:56 Speaker 3: be forced to have a child. And that's what that

17:59 Speaker 3: song is about. We got to stand up against that

18:02 Speaker 3: kind of thing. Yeah, and stand Up is really like

18:05 Speaker 3: kind of a rallying cry that I think that I

18:08 Speaker 3: would love to like move on to just take it

18:10 Speaker 3: or plan parenthood to you know, go ahead and use

18:15 Speaker 3: the song for the rallies or for the movement.

18:18 Speaker 2: Maybe there's an opportunity there, but yeah, yeah, it's it's all.

18:22 Speaker 2: It's very very powerful. Yeah, stand Up that's another very

18:25 Speaker 2: powerful powerful song. Is this our America is great that

18:28 Speaker 2: of course, you know, the first the first single, it's

18:31 Speaker 2: going to radio. That's very, very excited about that.

18:34 Speaker 3: You had the world premiere on Saturday.

18:36 Speaker 2: It was absolutely. Absolutely can we talk to a little bit,

18:42 Speaker 2: just kind of shift gears a little too, because I

18:44 Speaker 2: want to know about your radio background when we talked

18:48 Speaker 2: on the phone the other day. You're a radio guy too.

18:52 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. I used to work for w l I

18:55 Speaker 3: R and w g R E and Party one oh

18:58 Speaker 3: five on a long island back when I was out

19:02 Speaker 3: of college and during my band days, my first band days,

19:06 Speaker 3: when I was about twenty years younger, and I ended

19:10 Speaker 3: up I was an account executive working at the radio station.

19:15 Speaker 3: But then I hosted. I started and hosted Tri State Sound,

19:19 Speaker 3: which was a local show, which was one of the

19:22 Speaker 3: best experiences of my life. I mean, and we spoke

19:25 Speaker 3: about this, how much fun it is to listen to

19:27 Speaker 3: new music and be able to pitch to radio stations

19:30 Speaker 3: and stuff. I got to listen to the greatest talent.

19:34 Speaker 3: I had bands like Ryan Starr, the Montgomery Cliffs, early Edison,

19:39 Speaker 3: people that really went on to fame afterwards, but they

19:43 Speaker 3: were local, local accident and I had a lot of

19:46 Speaker 3: live performances. I did that for about three years.

19:49 Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, why did you Why did you leave

19:53 Speaker 2: it behind? I mean, I know, there's not a lot

19:55 Speaker 2: of money in it.

19:56 Speaker 3: Times. It wasn't that I went back to teaching. I

20:01 Speaker 3: left the job and I got back to teaching. I

20:03 Speaker 3: went into teaching. I got married, I had a few children,

20:08 Speaker 3: and I thought that you and I love history, I

20:12 Speaker 3: love social studies. My sixth grade grandfather was Richard Henry Lee,

20:17 Speaker 3: who proposed the decoration of Independence. And that's something that

20:21 Speaker 3: I always kind of like wear around me and feel like,

20:23 Speaker 3: you know, this is my country and I want to

20:26 Speaker 3: make it good for everyone. And yeah, I'm sure so consciously.

20:30 Speaker 3: That's one of the reasons I flew to Ferguson. I

20:32 Speaker 3: went to Charleston when the when the massacre happened, and

20:37 Speaker 3: it was just blown away by the contrasts between how

20:41 Speaker 3: Ferguson handled the riots and the killing of Michael Brown

20:47 Speaker 3: versus what happened with the Charleston Nine, which were two

20:51 Speaker 3: vastly different reactions, and Charleston that were holding hands across

20:56 Speaker 3: the bridge. It was beautiful and Ferguson so much.

21:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Now do you have do you have

21:06 Speaker 2: plans for for more music beyond this? I mean, obviously

21:09 Speaker 2: you're focused on the current project, but but I'm always

21:13 Speaker 2: curious because you're you're a creative guy, so I'm sure

21:17 Speaker 2: you've got more ideas beyond or maybe more ideas that

21:20 Speaker 2: are connected to this, because obviously it's not just the music.

21:24 Speaker 2: It's it's there's a game, there's there's everything, right.

21:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I definitely want to continue with it. I

21:31 Speaker 3: frankly have already redone Election Day, which was the album

21:36 Speaker 3: that followed American Split the original, and I've redone it

21:41 Speaker 3: with AI. But I have another album called Sex and Politics,

21:46 Speaker 3: which I think it has nine songs on it right

21:49 Speaker 3: now that I also use the AI again using the

21:53 Speaker 3: seeds of my you know, piano playing or whatever, my

21:57 Speaker 3: poor production, you know, basically doing it on the iPhone

22:02 Speaker 3: on a lot of the tracks, some of them were

22:04 Speaker 3: recorded in legit studios. And I've had a great mentor

22:08 Speaker 3: in Richie Kanada, who has given me more than he

22:12 Speaker 3: ever should have, I'm sure, in terms of his time

22:15 Speaker 3: and his his guidance. He was the he's the sax

22:19 Speaker 3: player for Billy Joel for like his first five or

22:22 Speaker 3: six albums, and he has a recording studio where he

22:25 Speaker 3: launched like Mariah Carrey, Whitney Houston and he was, yeah,

22:29 Speaker 3: he was. He was very big influence in the in

22:34 Speaker 3: the actual finished product of the original American split, two

22:38 Speaker 3: of the.

22:39 Speaker 2: Tracks, oh wow, okay, okay, very good, very good. And

22:43 Speaker 2: then do you do anything musically? Do you do anything

22:47 Speaker 2: outside of Eddie sing? Or is it all about Eddie sing?

22:50 Speaker 3: And the it's all about Eddie sing. Yeah, it's the persona.

22:54 Speaker 3: I think I'll probably at some point go back to

22:56 Speaker 3: Brian Mannox, probably to make my mom happy. She's really

23:00 Speaker 3: yeah Stan calling me Eddie and you know that's funny. Yeah,

23:04 Speaker 3: it's kind of a thing. But yeah, I think eventually

23:08 Speaker 3: I'll go back to Brian Mannix. Uh. You know, I

23:11 Speaker 3: previously released the Mannox Project. And years ago I was

23:14 Speaker 3: in a band called forty two Wetmen, which is the

23:18 Speaker 3: first well, I was in a band in college too,

23:21 Speaker 3: but the first like real band outside of college was

23:24 Speaker 3: this band called forty two Wetmen, and we got a

23:26 Speaker 3: radio play and we we had my my partner, one

23:30 Speaker 3: of my good good friends, a soulmate uh heuh. He

23:35 Speaker 3: was a piano player on Broadway and he was like

23:39 Speaker 3: the orchestrator of the band and we were like it

23:43 Speaker 3: was like right as we were about to get signed,

23:45 Speaker 3: the band like blew up and we broke up. And

23:48 Speaker 3: then yeah, it was like it was it was sad

23:51 Speaker 3: and then uh. In one of my big moments when

23:54 Speaker 3: I opened for Cake at the Vanderbilt in in Long

23:58 Speaker 3: Island and I got offered a record deal back in

24:01 Speaker 3: the day, and I turned it down, like maybe a fool, yeah,

24:05 Speaker 3: because I wanted more control over the over the publishing

24:09 Speaker 3: and everything.

24:10 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well you never know too, I mean, uh,

24:13 Speaker 2: a record deal isn't always uh you know, I mean

24:17 Speaker 2: they might they might pour a lot of money into

24:19 Speaker 2: the project once they sign you, and and you might

24:21 Speaker 2: end up being a big star, or you might there's

24:24 Speaker 2: a lot of horror stories too, you know. You go

24:26 Speaker 2: and record a record and uh, and then the record

24:28 Speaker 2: company shelves it for whatever reason and they and you

24:31 Speaker 2: don't even own your masters and they keep everything and

24:33 Speaker 2: uh that was part of the deal.

24:36 Speaker 3: It was kind of like they were just buying my

24:38 Speaker 3: finished product. And that album I made with Mike Sapone,

24:43 Speaker 3: who I think he's won a Grammy. He produced brand

24:46 Speaker 3: brand brand news.

24:48 Speaker 2: Okay, brand new.

24:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, he produced a lot of their stuff.

24:52 Speaker 2: Oh okay, great, he's incredible. Yeah yeah wow. And are

24:56 Speaker 2: you still in So you're in New York.

24:59 Speaker 3: I'm in Brooklyn. I'm in Crown Heights, and I am

25:02 Speaker 3: doing a little bit of AI educational consulting as well.

25:06 Speaker 2: Really interesting. Okay, Okay, so you're really you're really invested

25:10 Speaker 2: in AI. That's good, that's good. Yeah. Well, eventually we're

25:13 Speaker 2: all going to have to be.

25:16 Speaker 3: Much. I mean, I look at it as we have

25:20 Speaker 3: a whole bunch of Einstein's in the room that we

25:22 Speaker 3: can utilize for just about any project, or just just

25:27 Speaker 3: about anything, any question, any real world uh you know,

25:31 Speaker 3: science thing you want to know, or even interpersonal stuff

25:35 Speaker 3: that you know most people like you're talking you're telling

25:37 Speaker 3: that to a bot, but you know, when they're that smart.

25:43 Speaker 3: Even though it's just one character at a time, or

25:45 Speaker 3: you know, it's just a stochadic parrot or whatever people

25:48 Speaker 3: want to call it, it works for me.

25:52 Speaker 2: It's also been with us too, for longer than people realize.

25:55 Speaker 2: Because what I tell everyone is if you've ever gone

25:57 Speaker 2: on to a a if you've ever talk to a chatbot,

26:01 Speaker 2: on a website for customer service. I mean you're literally

26:05 Speaker 2: talking to a bot that's not a real person on

26:07 Speaker 2: the other end. That's why sometimes it's so hard to

26:09 Speaker 2: get anywhere.

26:11 Speaker 3: Exactly.

26:12 Speaker 2: But but that'll improve too. But but no, I I

26:15 Speaker 2: I love AI. There's so much you can do with it,

26:17 Speaker 2: and uh, the number one thing that I use it

26:19 Speaker 2: for is coding, because I also build websites. Really but yeah,

26:23 Speaker 2: but I don't code at all anymore, like ever, I

26:27 Speaker 2: literally I tell I tell AI. There's a couple of

26:30 Speaker 2: different ones I use, you know what I need, and

26:31 Speaker 2: it builds it for me, and then I put it

26:33 Speaker 2: into the.

26:34 Speaker 3: You know, I might have to do it.

26:35 Speaker 2: I might have to tweak it, but I don't. I

26:37 Speaker 2: don't write code anymore.

26:38 Speaker 3: Right right, It's amazing, no reason to really amazing.

26:43 Speaker 2: So is there anything else you want to tell us about? Uh,

26:48 Speaker 2: in terms of the game, because again with Eddie Singh,

26:51 Speaker 2: there's the game and everything, like what I want to

26:53 Speaker 2: make sure people know about that, and then we'll remind

26:56 Speaker 2: people too about you know, they're going to be hearing

26:58 Speaker 2: hearing the single on the radio soon. But any any

27:01 Speaker 2: other part of this that we didn't touch on that

27:02 Speaker 2: you want to make sure people know about well.

27:05 Speaker 3: In hopefully a week's time or less, the app will

27:09 Speaker 3: be up and running on my website or on a

27:13 Speaker 3: separate domain name. It would probably be a web app.

27:16 Speaker 3: And basically you can listen to the album and you know,

27:20 Speaker 3: sort of shazam it, uh and listen whatever part you're on,

27:25 Speaker 3: Depending on the song and the minute that you that

27:28 Speaker 3: you record, it'll give you a choice of options. Uh,

27:34 Speaker 3: it's like, no, I always forget this. It's like no action,

27:39 Speaker 3: share or alternative. And then within that once you pick

27:42 Speaker 3: one of those, like no is like you know, trivia

27:45 Speaker 3: questions and stuff like that. Action is asking someone to

27:48 Speaker 3: share something on social media. What was the other one?

27:52 Speaker 3: Alternative is just kind of kind of a popourri of

27:55 Speaker 3: things and uh was it no action? Uh, I'm forgetting

28:01 Speaker 3: the other one. But then there's subcategories of what the

28:04 Speaker 3: album is all about, love and sex, which you know,

28:07 Speaker 3: please you and come on, come on, certainly represent that

28:10 Speaker 3: and the love of Mineola screaming your name in the night.

28:14 Speaker 3: And then there's subcategories so love and sex, racism, sexism, homophobia,

28:21 Speaker 3: and technology, and then you get to share and earn

28:25 Speaker 3: points within that ecosystem and really be like interacting with

28:31 Speaker 3: the music in a way that previous to the technology.

28:35 Speaker 3: Now you know, it's so advanced. And again I've been

28:38 Speaker 3: kind of waiting for this. I mean I had this

28:40 Speaker 3: idea a long time ago, but I wasn't able with

28:42 Speaker 3: my skills then to create a hizam. But now, like

28:47 Speaker 3: you said, not having the code, I mean I can

28:49 Speaker 3: just I can build it. And I was able to

28:51 Speaker 3: build it. It's working perfectly in the development environment. I

28:55 Speaker 3: just have to push it up live.

28:57 Speaker 2: Fantastic. Well, congratulations on that. That's exciting. Yeah, really looking

29:01 Speaker 2: forward to that. And of course, uh, is this our America?

29:04 Speaker 3: Uh?

29:05 Speaker 2: I have the title right right? Is this our America?

29:07 Speaker 3: Is this America? It was called this My America?

29:11 Speaker 2: Right right? Yeah?

29:12 Speaker 3: And I changed it because it's really our America, it's

29:15 Speaker 3: not mine.

29:16 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, excellent. And uh so that's uh, that's going out,

29:20 Speaker 2: that's well starting now. Really it's going out to college

29:23 Speaker 2: radio and and people will be able to hear that

29:24 Speaker 2: soon and and uh and hopefully too they'll get into

29:27 Speaker 2: the game and and all of it. But well, we'll

29:29 Speaker 2: make sure people know about it. That's for sure.

29:31 Speaker 3: Absolutely great stuff.

29:33 Speaker 2: And I encourage people to check out the album too,

29:35 Speaker 2: and uh, and of course if you go to eddiesing

29:37 Speaker 2: dot com you can find well, the original is there too.

29:42 Speaker 3: I don't know if the original is still on. I

29:44 Speaker 3: think I might have just replaced it with the with

29:46 Speaker 3: the updated version. But you can, oh gotcha. You can

29:49 Speaker 3: certainly learn everything you wanted to know about me or

29:52 Speaker 3: the band.

29:53 Speaker 2: Yeah.

29:53 Speaker 3: My electronic press kit is is you know, a little

29:57 Speaker 3: too long. It's a prezzy where you can go in

30:01 Speaker 3: and see who I am in my background, my life,

30:04 Speaker 3: and then each of the albums you can go and

30:06 Speaker 3: see the lyrics and who produced it and everything.

30:09 Speaker 2: And I got to watch. Looking at the website too,

30:11 Speaker 2: that reminds me I gotta watch that. I haven't watched

30:13 Speaker 2: the video yet, but I'm going to the story of

30:15 Speaker 2: Eddie saying I need to check that out.

30:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was years ago, in the first

30:19 Speaker 3: one I made, and it was it was, you know,

30:22 Speaker 3: kind of just I had this experience where it was

30:26 Speaker 3: I was typing, uh, and I was writing like just

30:30 Speaker 3: a creative writing session, and I wrote about this translucent

30:35 Speaker 3: girl and then I went to stop writing and I

30:38 Speaker 3: got hogandash out of my fridge or freezer, and they

30:43 Speaker 3: had a QR code, which i've at that point i'd

30:46 Speaker 3: probably never scanned a QR code of someone else's. And

30:52 Speaker 3: I scanned it and you downloaded an app. It was

30:55 Speaker 3: called the Concerto app, and outgrew a three D image

30:59 Speaker 3: a Halgram like Princess Leigh and Batman and Star Wars

31:03 Speaker 3: playing the violin. And it was like the most beautiful

31:07 Speaker 3: thing I'd ever seen in my life. And I was like, whoa.

31:09 Speaker 3: And then I sat back down at the computer and

31:12 Speaker 3: I was like, I wrote about a translucent girl in

31:15 Speaker 3: the computer before I saw this thing, and I'm like,

31:18 Speaker 3: what is going on?

31:19 Speaker 4: I'm like, am I seeing the future? I'm like, well

31:22 Speaker 4: predicting this? It was so it just it still haunts me.

31:27 Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah what exactly who threw that seed

31:30 Speaker 4: into my subconscious?

31:32 Speaker 3: You know? And yeah, yeah, preview, but that was kind

31:36 Speaker 3: of how that thing started. And I believe that's in

31:39 Speaker 3: the Eddie, the story of Eddie.

31:41 Speaker 2: Saying Okay, okay, yeah, I gotta watch that tonight. I'm

31:43 Speaker 2: gonna watch that tonight. Definitely definitely very good. Well again,

31:47 Speaker 2: everybody check out eddiesing dot com and keep your eyes

31:51 Speaker 2: or keep your ears open, I should say for the

31:53 Speaker 2: first single hitting radio very very shortly, so Eddie saying,

31:58 Speaker 2: this has been wonderful.

31:59 Speaker 3: Thank you, peace man, thanks so much. I appreciate it absolutely.

32:03 Speaker 2: Thank you everyone who joined us for the live stream,

32:05 Speaker 2: and of course everyone else. I know a lot more

32:07 Speaker 2: people are going to get this in the podcast feed.

32:09 Speaker 2: Make sure you subscribe to Matt connorson Unleashed in the

32:11 Speaker 2: podcast feed of your choice, and you can always find

32:14 Speaker 2: it at my website Matt Connorton dot com. And that

32:18 Speaker 2: is going to do it for us for now. Eddie

32:20 Speaker 2: singing again, thank you so much, my friend.

32:22 Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate it.

32:23 Speaker 2: You got it.

32:24 Speaker 1: Get command God, don't get supremely mag so coming