Eleanor Luna and Andre Dumont of Terminus Underground | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: Joining us, so we have returning to the show. He was here recently, although he looked a little bit different. Andre Dumont of course from a dead Harrison and you as your underground Terminus Underground, all of that, and of course Eleanor is here. And you've got to be in the five Timers club by now, right, you think. So you've been on, You've been on quite a few times, so it's good to see you.

0:20 Speaker 2: Welcome, Jurning, Matt and Jenny.

0:21 Speaker 1: Yes, good morning morning, and uh, we're gonna talk about so of course you've got we should mention and we'll circle back to it. The big event tonight. You've got a big show tonight right at Terminus Underground.

0:31 Speaker 2: Take this show to your grave.

0:33 Speaker 3: That's what it's called, Oh very good. It's a clever pun. It's a pop punk night, so it's a clever pun on a pop punk song.

0:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember.

0:45 Speaker 3: Take this show to your grave or take this to your grave is actually the okay, I actually can't tell you who the band is that do not remember, but it has inspired me to create the cool Flyer.

0:56 Speaker 2: That's up there.

0:57 Speaker 4: Oh very good. No, I do like the fly.

1:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, Island of Alaska coming up from Boston, Vice's Inc. From Portland, Maine, and.

1:08 Speaker 2: What else do we have? This is my brain?

1:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. We love vices Inc. They've been on a few times. And of course now I'm not familiar with the other bands, although I was playing, we do have a couple of their songs cued up and ready we might you know, if we if we get to them, we'll see how the morning goes. But but I really like I really like Island of Alaska and and I love Grim the acronym.

1:35 Speaker 4: I love that song.

1:37 Speaker 2: I love their name that just the name is so cool.

1:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently the single just came out recently, be Yourself, which is a great track. And of course, uh, Island of Alaska has Holy Ghosts. That's their newest single, and I really like that too. So it sounds like sounds like a great night.

1:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good mix.

1:55 Speaker 1: We should talk about too. What's what's new, what's happening at term underground? You know we're talking off there about been some changes over the past. It's been close to three years now, right Well, it'll.

2:07 Speaker 3: Be going on our third season after this year, so we're at the end of our second season.

2:12 Speaker 4: Right now I'm terrible at math, but we do.

2:14 Speaker 3: It seasonally because there's a few months we take off. Yeah, yeah, because it's just an unsafe parking environment with the snow and the ice, and you know, it's nice also for us to get perspective on the year and do a little bit of traveling and see what other venues and spaces are doing in the rest of the country, which is actually what we're going to be doing. So yeah, we've had a good year though. Yeah, we've worked with one hundred and eighty nine actses. Wow, forty four shows.

2:46 Speaker 4: That's incredible, that's incredible.

2:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we are growing, and I would like more people to know about Terminus Underground and New Hampshire Underground as well.

2:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us more, tell us more about Bow because you know, and obviously our listeners, some of our listeners, you know, they've they've heard a lot about it and know a lot about it. Some listeners might not know anything. But and and two we should we should explain, you know, the distinction between New Hampshire Underground Terminus Underground. Obviously they're connected.

3:16 Speaker 3: But yeah, so New Hampshire Underground is the overarching entity of promotional Management Band Management mentorship and guidance for artists and musicians in the New Hampshire area. And then from that stems a couple of different things, Terminus being the predominant one is our music venue, so we sort of operate like a micro entertainment venue or center because at the same time we also have an art gallery and we have you know, multi use spaces where we'll do art workshops or you know, podcasts, kind of education things like that.

3:57 Speaker 3: And we also have a community rehearsal room where people can rent by the hour to rehearse with you know, just jam with people or to you know, be solo session if they don't have access to something or you know, they're not in a rehearsal room. This is something that's offset of that. Yeah, Yeah, it's kind of how it's run.

4:17 Speaker 1: It's such a unique place and Terminus, you know, I'm sure you've heard me say it. I tell everybody the first time you walk into it, it's like walking into another world. When are you walking into that room?

4:27 Speaker 3: And that's all Andre's doing. Yeah, for the last nine ten years he's been.

4:33 Speaker 5: Decoration, sitting there looking at everything, looking where to put new stuff that I have in my hands, like yeah, what do I do with this? Or I'll put it right up over there.

4:43 Speaker 4: With that right right.

4:45 Speaker 5: But then it's like, you know, it's doing the little creative things that catch because for instance, the detail going and just grabbing one of those cat skeletons from home depot.

4:58 Speaker 6: Like where do you put that?

4:59 Speaker 7: Right?

4:59 Speaker 5: It's like, oh, I'm going to put that up in the ceiling, but like looking down at people just like a cat would, right, And it's like those little pieces of detail are just like you add that into the mix of everything around you.

5:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can look up and down and all around and find something new every day.

5:19 Speaker 6: It makes the room feel alive.

5:21 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, absolutely, has there ever like have you ever seen a venue that looks anything like that anywhere? Because I haven't, like I'm not.

5:33 Speaker 6: Yet, Yeah, not particularly.

5:35 Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I see elements of things, yeah, but nothing's really like every little piece or every every pocket has something.

5:50 Speaker 4: Yea.

5:50 Speaker 3: We are unique as New England's only horror themed underground music club and it's the Terminus under Ground is stem from The Walking Dead, so the name was inspired by the Terminus Underground scene in The Walking Dead, which is in an old mill building and that's where we are we live. We live in an old mill building that was built in nineteen oh eight, so it's like that cool play on The Walking Dead. And then from there, like this summer we had this really inspiring summer Ween party where we were able to donate to Scare New Hampshire, who's a nonprofit that helps people find costumes and have access to costumes.

6:31 Speaker 3: But then the decorations kind of just stuck, like we never took them down, and we're like yoh. And then we have various artists that come in and then they contribute. You know, Kegan Fitzgerald, she's my art by KF as our resident artist, and so she's made art on the wall that's permanent. So it's got all these cool elements that come in. And then we have rotating artists from the art gallery and they come in and leave their mark, so it continues to build in a very cool and beautiful way.

7:00 Speaker 1: I remember when Jenny had her art up there that was awesome, and and of course recently he had Dennis Layton Yeah and oh yes, which is funny because until you know, and he'd been on the show a couple of times, but I didn't realize you know with the Great Curtain. But I didn't realize until recently that he was also a visual artist until he.

7:19 Speaker 3: And he's fabulous. Yeah yeah, it's like a mix between what he does is graphic art and then he applies it to canvas and then also further applies multimedia art to it, like he has lights and like really cool looking things. So his gallery show just ended, okay, and he had, you know, a very successful show, and it was the first time he'd ever done it. And that's what we like took here too. We like took heter to like people we feel really strong artists and who have maybe never gotten themselves out there yet, and then they feel like they're successful because they took that step.

7:52 Speaker 3: So it's a kind of beautiful process to watch. Yeah yeah yeah. In terms of who you bring in for bands or solo artists or whomever who come to play, like, is there is there a criteria that you try to follow in terms of what fits the room or does anything kind of fit the room, or like like like what kind of shows do you try to book out there? Those were some of the business decisions we had decided to make this year because fortunately we had a little bit of a surge in Nashua after we opened up. There were I guess we must have inspired a bunch of people, which was pretty cool.

8:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, So our friend Mike McDowell opened the non alcoholic venue, The Spot, so they've got music there. And then Aaron from KINNECTICU City Events is doing shows over at Kettlehead Brewery, which is mostly metal shows I've seen so far. Then Fodies also has nights where they do music and that's a lot of it is run by Lacy from Who I Am. So we've got this nice, like really well working community. So I wanted to differentiate us, and knowing that we have that horror theme going on, I said, all right, let's some you know, just focus on the real hard rock and punk and metal and you know, people that don't get all that much exposure.

9:07 Speaker 3: Let's just focus on them. So we will do alternative and like, you know, other things too, but we decided to primarily focus on the darker genres.

9:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had made an interesting Facebook post about that too recently, about some people misunderstanding.

9:27 Speaker 3: Oh yes, there's something satanic panic going on. Yeah yeah, that's actually good fodder for this show.

9:32 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I.

9:34 Speaker 3: Don't know people seem to misinterpret symbolism and art and the intention of it with actual fear based thinking, and I'm not about that at all. You know, IM well educated on theology and religion. I'm very respectful of other people's faiths and things, and so there's no reason to be afraid to come to Terminus Underground. Nothing bad is going to happen. It is a safe space. I mean, we welcome all kinds of people in the LGBTQ community, and we just want everyone to know that it's not Everything you're seeing is not going to induce some sort of demonic hallucination for you.

10:19 Speaker 3: I promise you. You are on an acid, if you've done too many drugs, if you're drunk, you might have a problem, but it's not us.

10:30 Speaker 2: I promise you. Just art.

10:32 Speaker 3: And it's like you know, going to a Hollywood studio or going into any haunt during the time of year and seeing, you know, the different things that people have. It's just an expression. Yeah, of course, yeah, I don't know what you know, the fear mongering is, but it's a little silly in my opinion, and I think, you know, people should just use common sense and if you don't like that kind of thing.

10:53 Speaker 2: Just don't come. There's plenty of places to go.

10:56 Speaker 8: Yeah.

10:57 Speaker 9: Oh no, let's get a protest going. Please do please, I would love like picketers.

11:04 Speaker 6: Can we get Westborough Baptist Church.

11:05 Speaker 4: To call dem Gloria?

11:07 Speaker 6: My goodness, how famous we would get.

11:09 Speaker 2: Well, that's sell hot Coco.

11:12 Speaker 3: Yes please. Do you know Ozzie Actually I think I just give it away. When Ozzie was being heckled, Uh, he went into the picket line and in the back of it with the Westborough Baptist Church and was like, you know, with them and cheering until.

11:26 Speaker 2: They realized he was there.

11:27 Speaker 4: Oh that's funny.

11:28 Speaker 2: So yes, please bring Coco and sell it.

11:31 Speaker 9: S Rip Fighters trolled them when they showed up at one of their shows and drove around in the back of a truck playing Begi songs.

11:38 Speaker 2: It was hysterical.

11:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's it's interesting though, how yeah, some of that you can benefit from it a little bit too, though, because yeah, people are talking and then you know a little bit of publicity. It's like, you know, my my favorite bandits Kiss and uh. Back like way back when they started, you know, there were and and it would bubble up from time to time. But but there would be people who would say, oh, you know, it's an acronym for nights and second stuff like that, remember that, and yeah, and but but it you know, but it helped them, you know, and it obviously wasn't true, but but it did help them, you know a little bit of con.

12:15 Speaker 9: Secret way boy, what's that he was in secret? He was a good secret Jewish boy, mama's boy.

12:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah.

12:26 Speaker 9: He always he always, he always said that his mother went through so much he couldn't do He would never drink or do drugs or anything because he wouldn't put her through anything because she'd already been through so much.

12:38 Speaker 2: Nice Jewish boy.

12:39 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Gene does not party, grate edge his whole life.

12:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yes, yeah, absolutely, yeah, So you can benefit from a little bit of that. But yeah, it is it is strange how people.

12:49 Speaker 7: Uh.

12:50 Speaker 9: But on the fun side, Terminus is really cool. Like if you go when you really it's like going in the Tartists. You walk in the door and you see this cute little room and then you walk past that and it's like this whole new world opens up. And when you go into Terminus, the environment itself is so much more fun than just going to some club and just sitting at some table.

13:09 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's just so much more.

13:13 Speaker 9: You get you get into the music because you get into the environment and you can just escape from the world for a little while. So I don't know about anybody else, but I know I've needed that lately. So if you need that, you should definitely check out to listen to music.

13:27 Speaker 7: M M.

13:28 Speaker 5: And that's the other fun thing about it too, is that, uh, Google Maps does not like to agree with us on where it should be on the map, right, and so it's said it can send you on this little chase.

13:40 Speaker 6: And that's the fun part about.

13:42 Speaker 5: It because everybody in it, it's it's almost frustrating because it's like an escape room, except it's a finding room, right, And.

13:54 Speaker 6: So you're you're like, where is this place? Is it this building?

14:00 Speaker 5: No? Now I'm back in a neighborhood. No, I just turned down the wrong street. That's now not the street anymore? Like where am I where?

14:09 Speaker 3: Created an interactive map because it has been so difficult for people to find it.

14:14 Speaker 7: Really.

14:14 Speaker 4: Yeah.

14:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hit or miss though too, because I think and yeah, we were talking about this last time we were here, like because there was I know there was. I think the first time Jenny and I went there, yeah, we had that problem. But I think the second time, I think the second time, for whatever reason, Google Maps brought us directly there and it wasn't an issue. It's like it's capricious.

14:33 Speaker 4: Yeah.

14:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been in putting like specific directions into Google and I created the map for everybody to see.

14:41 Speaker 2: It's on the website.

14:42 Speaker 4: Okay, that's a good idea.

14:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then now I'm being even more vocal about, you know, how to find us, which street to turn down, because I realized it's people. It is in an area that people don't expect. It's right behind a residential neighborhood, and it's in the middle of like a few different buildings, and when Google takes you're around the back of the building. You don't know where else to go from there. It's really hard to figure it out. It's really weird, but it's kind of sketchy for people. And we've had people come in like so mad, but like people that you know, didn't expect to have it, like it was maybe like once taken inside and see everything what it is, hear how the music sounds.

15:21 Speaker 2: At the end of the night, they're just like, this is the coolest place ever.

15:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we do we have to make it better for people to find and advertising will help then.

15:31 Speaker 4: Yeah.

15:31 Speaker 3: I think that's one of our constraints this year is a lot of people had trouble finding us, even though we had some really really tight shows, right right, yeah, if.

15:40 Speaker 2: You see a warehouse here there, yes.

15:42 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, well, I think we should uh maybe we should play something. So you know, you got a few bands playing tonight, I'll let you all pick. I've got I've got something from each of the three bands that we talked about, queued up and ready to start with Vices. You want to start with Vices in Yeah, there's a song so Regret Me that I really love and uh yeah, let's play that. And of course Advices Inc. They're gonna be on with us on I think it's the twenty ninth.

16:10 Speaker 4: And the twenty ninth.

16:11 Speaker 2: I can't remember what's that? What day is what?

16:14 Speaker 10: Oh?

16:14 Speaker 9: The twenty ninth, you're right.

16:15 Speaker 4: The twenty ninth.

16:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're they're really good. If you get a chance to see them live, you should definitely go tonight. If you haven't seen Vices Inc. They're a really really good live band. Good absolutely, but yeah, this is called regret me from Vices Inc.

16:52 Speaker 8: Except I tank you what you've seen in middle in the system, that I'm not your best televion.

17:06 Speaker 10: So go ahead and good, but I'm to do.

17:15 Speaker 11: You're regrant me and that.

17:22 Speaker 10: You gottn't handle your leg or.

17:24 Speaker 12: You can't you can handle the truth.

17:29 Speaker 13: Honestly be in the system, and I'm perfectly ready to try. So go ahead and regret me, but I'm not using enough bonus f.

18:03 Speaker 14: Jos.

18:07 Speaker 12: Maybe I'll do anything you please. I'll do anything you please.

18:27 Speaker 11: You're got your Yeah, I'm finding perfectly that you're here.

18:37 Speaker 12: Because if you do.

18:41 Speaker 8: Off the PC Tom with the typical.

18:44 Speaker 13: Wander head and regret me, but I'm beating you to it.

18:53 Speaker 11: Dude, go ahead.

18:57 Speaker 14: And I gat me about regret. Go ahead, recall.

19:06 Speaker 11: Me, but always want to regretted you go head, regard me, but.

19:15 Speaker 14: I always want to be represt.

19:21 Speaker 11: You regret me and go regat.

19:28 Speaker 14: You grab me goverbad. You're got me and God regret you regret me and not forget.

20:27 Speaker 4: That is regret me.

20:28 Speaker 1: The band is Vices Inc. And they are going to be tonight at Terminus Underground along with Island of Alaska and Grim the Acronym And we have Eleanor and Andre from Terminus Underground here with us in studio and uh yeah, that's such a great song. And yeah, we were kind of talking off there about Vices Inc.

20:48 Speaker 4: Too.

20:48 Speaker 1: They're pretty eclectic in their sound. You know, they do fit the pop punk thing, but they do a lot of different a lot of different vibes in their music, which is cool.

20:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why we like to welcome bands that include alternative in their title or you know, and then when we're looking for bands to fit in with the show, we're really curating it so that all of the music really sounds good together.

21:12 Speaker 4: Yeah for the night. Oh yeah, yeah, totally totally.

21:17 Speaker 1: What's been like, have there been any surprises in terms of like with the bands that you've booked, like where something just surpassed your expectations.

21:27 Speaker 3: Oh yes, I would say a couple, yeah, a couple of bands that really surpassed expectation.

21:36 Speaker 2: This year just alone.

21:37 Speaker 3: But I can say about last year, the band Geary was just the first that really struck me as like something I was not expecting and really loved it, and I was really glad that they were able to grace our stage last year because it seemed like they hit a little bit of a bigger time this year and was We're on bigger stages, so that was really cool for them. Vigil is another band that, yeah, like the just the tone and the depth and breadth of their music is just That's another one that hit me. And then surprised by Conceptiicor, which the guys live right down the street from Terminus and they showed up and hung out with us, and you know, pursued the spot that they, you know, wanted to play, and we had them on our stage a couple of times this year and they did this fabulous acoustic rendition of Saucerful of Secrets from Pink Floyd and that's one of my favorite songs and they just nailed it.

22:38 Speaker 3: And it was a doom version. So all of these bands that I love are like kind of in that doom vein. But you know, it just always surprises me when you don't expect something great and it's on your small stage and ye, wow, this is great.

22:53 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And of course we're still around here. We still talk about the you know, the Green Yellow Night.

22:59 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, being written. Ever, we really appreciate you guys getting on that.

23:03 Speaker 1: I'd ask you if that's our past your expectations, but I don't. I don't think anybody knew what to expect really, right, I mean, you know.

23:10 Speaker 6: No prepared for maybe possible things getting hit.

23:16 Speaker 15: Yeah.

23:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I will say that was probably one of the craziest shows we've had.

23:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would. I would hope so in here in here too. Oh yeah, noodles, Oh jeez, Yeah, it was amazing.

23:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing also to see them still traveling around with that pool Noodle bus.

23:35 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the Pull Noodle Express.

23:36 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I think it's out of commission.

23:40 Speaker 4: They keep the thing keeps breaking down. Yeah.

23:43 Speaker 5: I always wondered about getting one of those school buses, and I'm seeing what they're going through with it, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, maybe those aren't the best thing for going cross country with.

23:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, something breaks on that and they're made for like.

24:00 Speaker 5: The area, like exactly the highway is just like too much on that big trip.

24:05 Speaker 4: I think you're right, you know, I hadn't thought of it that way, but I think you're right.

24:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're not designed for that, they're not designed to drive all over the Country's that's true.

24:12 Speaker 3: I'll be sad if they have to put it out of commission because Terminus Underground sticker is on there.

24:16 Speaker 4: Oh that's right.

24:17 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we have been traveling around the country even before.

24:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, before we're going to Yeah, yeah absolutely.

24:24 Speaker 1: Now so then so you during the winter, that's when you kind of when Terminus kind of goes into hibernation.

24:31 Speaker 2: Right, it does.

24:32 Speaker 3: So we closed down for like four months. Yeah, and we kind of do a little bit of reevaluation and this year is kind of a bigger form of that. Like last year we had some significant reevaluation to change the name and to go forward in a different way, and then this year we need to expand we're just frankly a little too small for what we have going on. So we're hoping to be able to bring the space that I have and the Terminus space together. We're gonna put we want to put double doors in and have the new Hampshire Underground Lounge be primarily like a VIP lounge and then entry away into Terminus from there.

25:15 Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, so we can.

25:17 Speaker 3: Offer the true VIP experience where you can still see the stage from where you are or hear it, and then you can you know, be more like in the lounge area with the couches and near the bar.

25:31 Speaker 4: And is that going to require taking down walls partially?

25:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, a partial wall, so we do have to get permission before we are able to do that. And yeah, the other thing that we're just always hoping for is that our downstairs neighbors decide to get a storefront for their furniture business, because that space is absolutely perfect.

25:49 Speaker 2: It's everything we need and want for a space.

25:52 Speaker 4: So you want the downstairs neighbors to leave so you can.

25:55 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's anybody with some nice storefront for our furniture company.

26:06 Speaker 6: You got it for rent. It's cheap to contact us.

26:09 Speaker 4: We got a guy for you.

26:12 Speaker 2: We got a guy who knows the guy.

26:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's one of the things that we're planning and hoping that will happen because I think the traffic flow and the bottleneck of it will be a little bit better and we I don't know if we'll be able to have more capacity that way, just more flow. I think though it makes to me, it makes sense and for safety purposes and things. But when we take our break this year, we're also going across the country to Nevada and we're going to be stopping at like all the different music hotspots and checking out different clubs so we can get some inspiration, because every time I go someplace, I do get more and more inspiration.

26:49 Speaker 3: Like we went to Demented Effects this year and they have a VIP room and in their Haunt, and I was just like, oh, yeah, works perfect. It's in Holio, mass In like this whole place, Holyoak is like a mill city, Like everything is a male building, so it's kind of like creepy, but they did a good job and their Haunt is in an old mill building and it's really fun and it's almost like being in a club, like a golf club or like a music club. And then you see like their different acts, like mini skits and sketches that they do with the Haunt actors.

27:27 Speaker 2: So it's super fun.

27:28 Speaker 3: And there's a bar in there, so it would be nice for Terminus to have their liquor license right now where b a yob and we're you know, it's legal, so we are a legal club, even though it's considered underground because of the music style. We're not a illegal underground club. We're a legal above ground club, but we just don't have our liquor license, so we do the BYOB thing and some nights we'll have like all ages shows where you know, but it's mostly twenty one plus.

27:55 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, okay, So is now is that probably varies from state to state right where you can do the BYO B So New Hampshire.

28:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hamster, you can do it. There's no laws against it.

28:09 Speaker 4: Yeah.

28:10 Speaker 3: Certain bars and clubs do it differently. Like we know about a club up north that you drop your beer or whatever off at the front desk and then you have to go to their bar and get it from them.

28:22 Speaker 2: Interesting a two dollars five dollars deposit.

28:25 Speaker 3: We thought about doing it like that, but I think people just love the idea of like, oh my god, we can go and listen to live music and not have to spend a ton of money on either food or drink. We can bring our own stuff like that seems to be what people enjoy.

28:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's cool.

28:39 Speaker 2: I guess your own living room right, right.

28:41 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. We should talk a little bit too about New Hampshire Underground. Yeah, because you know, listeners might not might not understand the What was it called before? I remember I used to stumble on the day on the original name, which I say on the.

28:55 Speaker 2: Airth it was called the Midnight Creatives Collective.

28:59 Speaker 4: That's right. I would say stuff like Midnight Creatures Oven or something. I kept screwing it up on were trying to talk about it.

29:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was actually a name my former business partner had and after we parted ways, necessarily I had to change the name. And that just came through like it was meant to be because it was associated with Terminus Underground in that way, so New Hampshire Underground and it has always kind of been a overarching promotional management for the shows that we do. But at the same time, because I have so much knowledge of the industry and have managed bands for so many years, like twenty five years now, I decided that I would take on a few management clients as well, because I see people struggling, like I'll see questions online on certain groups and I'm like, oh, people don't have to struggle with these questions if there's someone there that can help them and mentor them through it.

30:03 Speaker 3: So ended up meeting my other client, Rick for six minds combined through positive street art, and he needed a lot of help, and so I was there and I supported him and built his career for the past couple of years now and now he's doing really really well and he's got a really nice handle on how the industry works, you know, the things that are needed for getting your music out there. And he's every month been killing all of his goals.

30:30 Speaker 4: So that that's what we do.

30:31 Speaker 3: We like kind of operate as a business, sort of support network and crush help people crush their goals.

30:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fun.

30:42 Speaker 3: It's like really super rewarding to see that. And like with Dead Harrison, you know, they've always obviously done really really well and now they're in a phase where they're writing new music and that's really exciting to see and hear. So there's always something going on and I can always take on, you know, more clients. I've got a couple different kinds of clients. Like I've got clients who just want my like listening ear and want to bounce ideas off of me, and that's cool too, So we have people that need that.

31:12 Speaker 3: And then I have another guy that has a nonprofit in the music world as a recording studio and he just wants me to administer his nonprofit.

31:19 Speaker 4: So stuff like that.

31:21 Speaker 3: So anything business in the arts is kind of what I do. And if people need help with marketing or website building or you know, even booking, even though that's not my favorite thing to do, I can help.

31:36 Speaker 1: It's funny, I always say the same thing everyone. I have a lot of booking experience, but it's not my favorite thing and I don't do any of it currently.

31:42 Speaker 2: Because people make booking so hard. Just call people back.

31:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, and even like I'm I try to be very transparent and communicative to people who reach out to me. And I tell people you are on the list, I will call you, imise you, I will look at your email.

32:02 Speaker 2: Just take some time.

32:04 Speaker 3: Oh I know the struggle, it's yeah, you get inundated, right Oh yeah, oh absolutely, I'm want to talk to everybody.

32:10 Speaker 2: You want to be courteous and you know, build relationships with everyone.

32:14 Speaker 4: Yeah.

32:14 Speaker 3: So I don't want anyone to think that I've just ignored them if they've sent me a message. Of course time consuming yeah yeah.

32:22 Speaker 1: Plus now two, we live in an era where people get offended, Like if someone sends you a message on Facebook, and this happens to me, and I feel bad. But I like, I might be in a moment where Okay, I have time to read it, but I don't have time to respond to it because maybe they're asking me a complicated question that I can't just, and I can't just I don't you know, I got to respond later, but I've looked at it, so now it shows that I've read it. So now people are like, oh, you left me on red. It's like, well, I didn't have time to respond to it.

32:47 Speaker 1: Not that anyone confronts me directly, but people, you know, I always see people complaining on social media.

32:52 Speaker 4: Passive aggressively about it.

32:54 Speaker 1: Oh I messaged this person and they left me on red and didn't even respond, And it's like, you know, everybody's got to Just.

33:00 Speaker 2: My daughter was complaining.

33:02 Speaker 3: She's like, someone left me on red for ten minutes, and I'm like ten minutes. You know, normal business standard is twenty four to forty eight hours. Gays come on, Yeah, I know, yeah, people need to relax a little.

33:15 Speaker 5: Bit, But like, do you not think that maybe somebody's driving and they just scanned at it and they're not gonna.

33:24 Speaker 6: Reply back exactly.

33:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, it happens to me all the time. Somebody sends me something, it's like I.

33:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think almost of the time people are not intending on route.

33:33 Speaker 6: New people technology attachment.

33:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is out of control. We should we should play another song again tonight, of course at Terminus Underground and what would doors open at seven?

33:45 Speaker 3: Is the doors open at seven? Music starts around eight. Yeah, it's fifteen dollars cover for general admission or twenty if you want to hang out the VIP lounge with the bands.

33:54 Speaker 4: Okay, very cool. So you got Vices Inc Island of Alaska and Grimly Acronym. Uh, you should play another song?

34:01 Speaker 15: What do you.

34:03 Speaker 2: No Good?

34:05 Speaker 4: Want to play? Yeah?

34:06 Speaker 1: This is I had not heard this until this morning. Actually I listened to this and I saw that this is their newest single, be Yourself, And I really love this song. So yeah, let's give this a spin and then we'll come back. We've got Eleanora and Andre here from Terminus Underground in New Hampshire Underground and of course Andre also in the band Dead Harrison. But let's give this a listen. This is grim the Acronym. I really like this song a lot. This is called be Yourself.

34:44 Speaker 15: I'm gone, son, I'm God, my freak hotel, your thoughts, by.

35:16 Speaker 14: Yourself, tell your son, by your son, by your son, by.

35:22 Speaker 10: Your tom, by your son, by your son, by your son, by your.

35:29 Speaker 7: Son, by yourself, by your son, by your son. Can't weird say weird weird allar, don't let that tag say silance All right down to see you.

35:56 Speaker 14: Tell me so much to you and me, by your doom, by your town, by your thumb, by Tom.

36:17 Speaker 10: By your tomb, by your thu, by your tomb, by your tom, by your son.

36:28 Speaker 14: By your top, by your tomb, by your thumb, free show, by your too, by by your thumb. These my morn,

37:09 Speaker 14: my stop, my stop, my stop, my son, my son.

37:55 Speaker 2: It takes one to know one the stars on this night.

38:00 Speaker 16: Now, where's toss up like Jesus?

38:03 Speaker 17: Three days stunning?

38:04 Speaker 16: Now all lie, But in the end, I'm just a friend playing Protector's on your phone, pets him again to beat him alone. You hate the way he made his bill, but you have beat beside them in.

38:18 Speaker 2: One another word, game.

38:23 Speaker 14: Train you do. I can't keep you.

38:30 Speaker 15: You just pushing away.

38:33 Speaker 17: Oh you're a prod outside soul. Long before baby begin when it's all.

38:40 Speaker 18: The senate, suck to miss you again. I'll just sleep by myself for your sleep.

39:00 Speaker 12: M a saking thecording.

39:04 Speaker 14: You let me off the path? Now where am i?

39:07 Speaker 2: And like Jude is kissed my cheek.

39:10 Speaker 4: Now that's round, but it again. I'm just a friend, Bunny.

39:14 Speaker 16: Pretender's on your phone. It's hill again to be him on the oil son he's try it saying bye, but you rap, and I say goodbye on another.

39:25 Speaker 14: Round to this right, I can't keep you you.

39:37 Speaker 17: And just pushing on your prom onside my son before the begin and it's all said, to pass you again. I'll just sleep well myself for sleep bad. I can't keep it well.

40:26 Speaker 14: You just push your away in all your jobs.

40:30 Speaker 4: I saw long before the day begin.

40:34 Speaker 18: Then it's all said, and so I stack to miss you again. I'll just sleep by myself.

40:42 Speaker 4: Oh you see that is Holy Ghost. That is the new single from Island of Alaska.

41:05 Speaker 1: I like their sound a lot two female singers in that band, which is very cool, And we were kind of talking off air about Vice's Ink. Of course they're a female fronted band as well, and both bands, along with Grim the Acronym, are going to be playing tonight for those of you who are listening live on Saturday tonight at Terminus Underground in Nashua. And of course we have Eleanor and Andre here from Terminus and we've been talking all about that this morning.

41:31 Speaker 4: And doors open at seven.

41:33 Speaker 3: Correct, I open at seven, I should say. The address is one thirty four Hain Street, right off of Arlington Street and it's down a little hill and you'll see a brick mill building the double glass doors and then we're on the second floor. So the doors open at seven. Music starts at eight fifteen dollars general admission twenty dollars VIP.

41:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you haven't been to Terminus, you got to check it out and.

41:56 Speaker 3: You can go on the website and you can buy tickets there. So right on the homepage of New Hampshire Underground dot oorg New Hampshire Underground dot org you'll see the poster for tonight's show ticket link and you can buy tickets there. We also take venmo or cash at the door also cash app to Yeah.

42:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good to have all those options. Yeah. Absolutely.

42:17 Speaker 1: Is there anything we didn't talk about in regard to Terminus that you want to mention because it's rare that we have an opportunity to have both of you here at the same time, and I just want to make sure. I mean, it's such a cool place, it's such a great venue. I'm excited to see what you do in twenty twenty six. And you know, you were kind of hinting around about expanding and whatnot, but well, not hinting.

42:35 Speaker 4: You said that that is the plan.

42:36 Speaker 1: But I mean, but is there anything about that we didn't talk about that you want to make sure our listeners know about.

42:41 Speaker 3: I mean, expansion definitely is on the horizon. We definitely want more people to come in, more people to experience what we have going on. The hospitality that we provide is top par That's like the responses that everyone says is this place is so cool, The hospital is so amazing. It's better than any bar we've ever been to. So I want more people to experience that, and not just bands, you know, just fans of live music. And the sound that Andre does as our sound engineer.

43:12 Speaker 4: That's a good thing to mention.

43:13 Speaker 3: Phenomenal, Like every band sounds like they're on a huge stage, even though it's a small stage. The sound is full and you can hear every nuance and that's what makes it a nice place to listen to music. If your true music lover, you get to hear that in a space that's comfortable for you and not you know, something where you feel pressured to uh just stand there and observe.

43:39 Speaker 6: Right right, yeah, not hear your neighbors knocking on the wall.

43:46 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, well, thank you both so much, and it is happening. What wonderful to see you and and uh love what you're doing to be.

43:53 Speaker 6: Here and see you out again.

43:55 Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely to terminus, Oh, we were saying too off air that you you know, you looked when you when you walked into the building.

44:02 Speaker 1: You look different to me. And because you had shaved, because you were both, we should mention that you were. You were Azzie and Sharon for Halloween.

44:08 Speaker 11: Right.

44:08 Speaker 3: Yes, by some circles we are considered the Aussie and Sharon of the East Coast because of all the things that we do. And it's kind of like a joke, but we just decided to play on it and dress up like Ozzie and Sharon and it was fun.

44:24 Speaker 6: English accent is horrible all night at.

44:27 Speaker 3: The last show. It is our Halloween show. I'd hear a Sharon and I'd be like, oh my goodness, yeah,

44:35 Speaker 3: I'd have to come running to see what it was.

44:37 Speaker 9: Yeah, facing them with bubbles, Yeah, that would have been a really good idea, Bubbles Sharon.

44:43 Speaker 2: A couple of people mentioned that, actually.

44:47 Speaker 4: Bubbles, I'm the prince of darkness.

44:50 Speaker 1: My British accents even worse than your British. I sound like an Australian with that trauma when I tried to do on it.

44:57 Speaker 6: Why do I sound like I'm Scottish.

44:59 Speaker 3: We even had drinking game going where like if you heard Sharon or Ozzy out of either of our mouths, you had to dream.

45:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool, very good, very good. Well, I think we should end the segment with a terror with a Dad Harrison song, Terror Grinder, my personal favorite. It sounds like this is a favorite of a lot of people. Yep, from what you guys have told me so, So we'll end with that, And if you are listening live on Saturday morning, stick around. Coming up in the second hour, Charles Richardson and Eric Pilcher we'll both be joining us remotely, of course, and then in the third hour under the Horizon.

45:33 Speaker 1: They haven't been on in a while, but They've been up to a lot of great stuff. They played the Terminus, yeah, and they.

45:38 Speaker 3: Played it Terminus and then at the spot that I did a show, yes, yeah, we had a blue ou. They're great. The whole team is great. Their management is great. So that's awesome.

45:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's always kind of surreal seeing Mike Palmer because when back in the day, so long ago now and yet it seems like not so long. But like I was in a band called My Life Crisis and Mike was in Disorder by Design and we would play a lot of shows together.

46:06 Speaker 4: So but he and he kind of looks the same too. He hasn't even changed. Really, it's but it's surreal being in a room with him. But it's but it's cool.

46:15 Speaker 2: He knows what he's doing.

46:16 Speaker 7: He does.

46:16 Speaker 2: He can tell he's been in the industry for a while himself.

46:19 Speaker 1: And yeah, absolutely, all right, very good. So we will end the segment with this again, thank you both so much, and uh get to Terminus tonight, Terminus Underground, Terminus Underground and here is this is Terror Grinder and the band is Dad Harrison.

46:39 Speaker 17: Song the Games and Prove the City, the Chamber, Love Your God.

46:51 Speaker 10: We see a sleep for a lot of time.

46:57 Speaker 14: The team love fall.

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47:26 Speaker 14: I'll be bread and drag fi.

47:31 Speaker 19: But the bestnot be of a row.

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47:46 Speaker 6: I fixture you can feel butts.

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47:57 Speaker 4: Cry and thank god lets it's not.

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49:22 Speaker 14: Looking up the sky around us.

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