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Speaker 2: That is orchids in the sunrise. The band they are here with us in studio under the horizon. We've got all three members here. Welcome everybody. We're gonna talk with them. We're gonna get caught up really looking forward to this. This is Matt Connorton Unleashed and of course we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. And of course you can stream the show. Go to Matt connorton dot com, slash live rather live streaming options, social media links, contact and Fosho archives, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2: Just don't bother with the Facebook link because Facebook has restricted me from streaming live till December. I have no idea why, because they don't tell you when they do this soup. But you can stream it on YouTube and of course it is a radio show, so if you're in the Manchester area you can just stream it or actually just listen to it, I should say, at ninety five point three FM on your FM dial. Jenny is here of course at the news table, and let me get those mics up because joining us in studio we have and let me get that camera on them too for those of you watching the video feed.

Speaker 2: So there's Matt Palmer, Jordan's Sweet and is he McIntyre all here with us a live in studio. Good morning, Good morning, morning. Yes, yes, so under the horizon. Great to uh great to have here. The last time Jenny and I saw you, of course, was at Bad Burger's, right, and uh, yeah, you've come a long way. You're a lot heavier than it used to be, which is really nice. I like it. Yeah, sounding amazing. So we're gonna get caught up, We're gonna get in everything. But we should uh and Jordan, this is more you and I talking about this, I suppose, but we should.

Speaker 2: Let's get the sad part out of the way and we won't spend a lot of time on it. But of course we both we lost a hero of ours.

Speaker 9: Big, big influence on me, definitely the main reason why I play guitar. And you know, like obviously there's other influences that I have, but like you know, Van Halen, Dimebag, but I think Ace was definitely my biggest reason to be playing guitar.

Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, you know, I don't know if it was his sound, the look, the you.

Speaker 9: Know, whole band itself, kiss or his solo acts, but the guy just had some something for me.

Speaker 7: And I was just like wow, yeah, like this is where it's at.

Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, do you have a favorite Ace Frayley solo.

Speaker 7: Honestly, the solo from was it Love Them and Leave Them?

Speaker 2: I think?

Speaker 7: Is that? Oh yeah, I like that when Yeah, that's a pretty good solo rock and roll over.

Speaker 9: I feel like a lot of people don't really listen to that album that much, and you know, don't really listen to the solos on there, but that's got some good guitar work on there, honestly. Yeah, So that's definitely one of my favorite ones.

Speaker 2: My personal favorite has always been Strange Ways, Right.

Speaker 7: Yeah, that's another good one.

Speaker 2: I love that solo. And now, did you guys play with Ace? Did you do a show with Ace or did you know? But you you went? Right?

Speaker 7: We went saw him, We met him that that was a cool time.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 9: I think we had tried at some point, just didn't really fall through. Yeah, I mean stuff like that happens all the time. You try to playing gig, doesn't fall through.

Speaker 7: It is what it is, you know.

Speaker 9: But yeah, we did get to meet the guy. Yeah, definitely a pretty cool time. He did put on a pretty good show that night too, which you know, it was a good time to see you know, Yeah, everybody seem to have a good time there too, So yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: No, it's uh yeah, it's and that's one of the things that you know that Mike knows this, I'm sure has thought about this. You know, as you get older, your heroes they start to die off, right yeah, and you know, and you're experiencing a hero dying you know, you're you're young, and you're you know, your heroes are already dying off.

Speaker 7: Yeah yeah right, I mean like within this year, I mean, how many people have we lost?

Speaker 2: Yeah?

Speaker 9: We lost Auzzye, we lost Ace, we lost was it Brian Wilson from Beach Boy lost him? We lost DeAngelo? Right, yeah, it's just everybody's just rolling. I'm like, dude, what happened?

Speaker 5: Yeah?

Speaker 7: They had another five years in you. I thought these people were immortally.

Speaker 5: I know, I know.

Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's it's it's hard, but but that's cool though, that you know, he was such an inspiration to you and uh and and why picked up the guitar. That's that's great.

Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm glad that I got to experience him.

Speaker 2: It's wonderful that you got to meet him. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely good memories. Yes, yes, Well, so we'll talk about what's been going on with the band. Uh, dying to hear from all three of you on this and uh, you know, it looks like you're doing a lot of good stuff, making a lot of progress, playing a lot of shows. You got a busy, busy schedule. Did you play last night? Somewhere?

Speaker 7: We did?

Speaker 10: We played Halloween Show. It was a creep fest in Cranston, Rhode Island at pub On Park. It was a great show, yeah, hosted by Ramboutacon and Voltage Entertainment and we got to play with obviously our extended family and Scarecrow Hill.

Speaker 5: Ye.

Speaker 10: Yeah, we've heard great friends with them, but we also got to meet a lot of new friends there among Ghosts, Forever's, Falling Grace, Providence, all great guys, all great bands. It was an amazing, amazing night, amazing show. Yeah, and it was fun. It was fun to actually do something on Halloween night rather than just like sit at home watch you know, the Evil Dead for the ninetieth time in the row or whatever.

Speaker 5: Right.

Speaker 7: But yeah, we've been we've been busy.

Speaker 10: We've been you know, working on the upcoming Albu a lot of that and editing and mixing right now, so we're.

Speaker 7: Looking music videos, yeah, yeah, music.

Speaker 10: We've been doing music videos for the second album and you know, just keep working.

Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I'm really curious to know about the evolution of the sound because you're I mean, you know, the song for people hearing you for the first time, of course, the song we displayed, you know, it's dark and heavy and whatnot, right, but seeing you live because Jenny and I the first time we saw it was when you were opening for Great White, right, you.

Speaker 7: Know, and way in the earlier stage.

Speaker 5: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah, And then when we saw you at Bad Burger, you know, it was it was louder, it was heavier. Oh and before that too, well, when we saw you at Jewel Oh yeah, yeah, because because I remember that night saying, I was like, wow, they've they've definitely gotten heavier.

Speaker 7: Things have changed.

Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I think with like all the shows that we've been playing, and also a lot of the new bands that we meet, like, it's definitely influenced our perspective and our performance. And I'd also say, for at least for me, like a big change in a monumental like I guess point in my career was Milwaukee Metalfest, Like seeing all the bands there, it definitely changed something in me, and I don't think it's been the same sense seeing the energy.

Speaker 10: That those bands brought, you know, like whether it was you know, like the big bands like you know, Guar and Arch Enemy, you know, or Down or Chimera obviously, but you know, even some of the smaller bands that we checked out. Like I remember there was one band in particular that we checked on the second stage, a Fugitive. Yeah, there were this thrash band that like we didn't know anything about, but we went in there and like next thing, you know, we look around and we see like bodies flying all over the place and we're like, all right, yeah, this is you know, this is a little more like what we're into here.

Speaker 10: And it was just like that whole experience. You know, not only was it great and was great to you know, have the opportunity and to play in, you know, an event like that, but you know, to look around and see all these bands and grab little bits of you know, influence from everyone. I'd say that overall, that's really what we do. You know, we try to pick up influences of things, you know, because we as much as we're in our you know, in our own band, to we're our own you know, style or whatever. We are still fans and when we go to shows, you know, it's like we're going to see our favorite bands and all that.

Speaker 10: So we uh, you know, take little bits and pieces and we're like, all right, like, you know that's cool. What if we try to take it and twist it in our own way? And I think with the whole you know, getting heavier thing, I think we all kind of liked when we did stuff that was a little more heavy and it was a little more outside of our comfort zone. Yeah, coming out of the first album. Yeah, and we just fell in love with it. Yeah, like this is this is where we're having I.

Speaker 11: Also think it's just us getting more comfortable on stage, Like we're more comfortable in performing and just I guess being different in front of other people.

Speaker 7: Yeah, being more true to ourselves right right.

Speaker 9: Our stage show definitely evolved a lot more after you know, we got heavier. I mean dud Like as much as I remember the the you know, original days and you know, the first couple of months of us being a band, and I enjoy looking back. I I so much more appreciate and take pride in the stage show that we've developed now because of our heavier sound and all of our you know, more mature evolutions that we've done with the music and you know, the bands that we've met. I mean, you know, a lot of our stage show in a sense has taken part from other bands, and we'd taken you know, influences from other bands.

Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, I really feel.

Speaker 9: Like our evolution has just been from us just being heavier, you know, like you can't exactly be you know, jumping around and whipping your hair around when you're playing some like softer rock. Right, it's not as good as the time. I mean, it's still a good time, but it doesn't hit us hard, you know.

Speaker 2: For us, of course, if you are just showing us we've got all three members of Under the Horizon or here with us in studio, it sounds like like, did you ever have a conversation about sounding heavier? Because it sounds like it just sort of happened organically, like you never really that's my impression I would say it, Yeah.

Speaker 7: It just happened. I think it really was just like every couple of practices.

Speaker 9: Somebody would do something like, you know, Maddie would throwing like a little scream or is he would you know, throwing a scream or throwing a pinch harmonic or whatever. And we were just like, oh, we can do this, Like we don't have to play like kiss like we can we can be Pantera. And I think that's kind of where it all evolved. We were like, oh, so we can do this, so why don't we try to do it right?

Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly. The songs that that are going to be on the new isn't Is it going to be in another Epeter is going to be an album or what full album album?

Speaker 5: This time?

Speaker 10: We with the first the first release, it was kind of I like to say it was an unintentional EP Yeah, we didn't.

Speaker 7: We honestly all.

Speaker 10: I think we're very surprised when we like edited it down and we were like, oh my god, it's only thirty minutes. Yeah, Like we were like, oh no, but you know, even though obviously we still love it, but yeah, this one is a full, full fledged album. Okay, I think around like ten twelve tracks, ything like that. Okay, thirteen tracks.

Speaker 2: Thirteen yeah, excellent, excellent. Now, the in terms of how you approach recording, has that changed at all with the heavier sound or is it kind of the same erth It's.

Speaker 11: About the same, but I think we put in a lot more time and also at a lot like extra tracks, I'd say, really yeah, yeah, a lot.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 10: I think the approach and like how we executed the recording is very much like still kind of the same, but we you know, this time we sat down and were like all right, like we want you know, this is going to be like a statement. We wanted it to be, you know, statement of this is us, this is who we are. And you know, like as he said, try and stuff, you know, more stuff in the studio now that we're you know, more comfortable and we're you know, hearing different sounds. Like there were so many times where we would just be doing like someone would play something completely random, like Jordan would just do something that was like it it wasn't even meant for this song or whatever, and he was just like practicing and I'm like, wait, wait, wait, what are you doing there?

Speaker 5: Yeah? Record?

Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, I mean, I think the second album is definitely a lot more mature, and it has all the same you know, recording styles, and obviously there's a couple of tonal changes in there. But I think it really differs from the first album, because I mean the first album was like an experiment. We were just like, well, we have original songs and we could make an album or EP, I guess, and we were just like, well, let's send it and see what we can do.

Speaker 7: But now we're like, we're.

Speaker 9: Going to make this like a platinum sounding record and people are going to listen to it, you know, Yeah, we're gonna get it done.

Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly. Do you as as you're recording this, do you ever think about, well, let me put it this way, is it ever? Are you ever concerned with can we replicate this live? Like if we're if we record it this way, what we're going for?

Speaker 12: Yeah?

Speaker 7: Can?

Speaker 11: I would say that, like we already play a lot of this stuff live, Like I feel like the live stuff came before how we were going.

Speaker 13: To play it on the record.

Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, that makes it easier.

Speaker 11: Yeah, especially at least for me vocally, Like I've changed a lot in the last couple of months, and so some of the stuff that I've actually had to even go back to re record vocals because I'm like that's not heavy enough, it's not there. So yeah, i'd say the live performance, like how we perform it there has definitely come before the actual recording style.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because whereas it's only three of you, by the way, So I mean I assume the long term plan is to keep it the three of you. I mean, if you you've never discussed like adding a fourth member, not maybe the.

Speaker 7: Beginning or something.

Speaker 9: Yeah, I think we we thought about adding a fourth member before we even had original music really, and I think that was the first and last time we ever considered it.

Speaker 7: Yeah, because it's just like you know, it's it's just the dynamics.

Speaker 2: It's so good the way it is.

Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's hard to not only is it hard to adapt to having a fourth member, because now you're like, we got to figure out, you know, is he.

Speaker 7: Can they play on time?

Speaker 9: Can they adapt to our style that we have in our sound, But you're also risking the dynamics of the band falling apart. Now now it's well, we're not a three person boat. Now we have four people, and we now risk having two camps if somebody disagrees, and now it's a two on two or it's a three on one, And it's like there's just too many, too many potential problems for us.

Speaker 10: Sorry about you, And I think you know we're all you know, as I'm sure that you know any other musician who's listening to this, or you know, even the other musicians in this room here, can you know relate that. You know, we've all been in bands that it's like you have like the ideal amount of people, you know what I mean, Like, oh, well, great, we have you know, two guitar players and a you know, dedicated lead singer who you know, and a dedicated bass player and one ever. But in all of those bands where like there's way too many cooks in this kitchen.

Speaker 10: And this band was really about the three of us, you know, coming from our separate projects and being like, hey, we work really well together, and we're really tight, and we are we really understand our language, like we're writing stuff half the time. You know, we won't even have to like talk about much of like okay, well what do we do next for this next section? It's just organic. We all are just kind of like interlinked with each other. Yeah, and I think it, you know, really works out. We just haven't wanted to, you know, mess that up in any way.

Speaker 2: I think that's smart. Yeah, And and the three of you are able to get such a big sound with only three of you, so you don't need a fourth person anyway.

Speaker 7: It's it's.

Speaker 5: Right.

Speaker 9: Yeah, it's interesting because I mean we I've heard that where people are like, oh, you guys are very full for a three piece yeah, which yeah, I.

Speaker 7: Mean is partially why.

Speaker 9: I mean there's always the stereotype you need a lead and a rhythm guitar player, you need all the people to make the big sound. But I think it really just depends on how you play your instrument, you know, like like you know, I can have a full sound in a solo by just throwing octaves in there is he can have a full sound by just growling and you know, layering tracks in the studio or even just doing it live.

Speaker 7: Maddie bangs his drums like an ape.

Speaker 9: Yeah, like you know, you know, it's like it really just goes to show like if you can play your instrument in a certain way, you can make a full sound out of minimal amount of people.

Speaker 2: That's a good way of putting it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And you can hear, like you can clearly hear everything, like if you because if you're playing a solo and you don't have an extra guitarist playing rhythm, you can you can hear what is he's doing on bass. You can hear all the drums right, all the you know, the double kick and everything. You can clearly hear it right, you know what man's playing. So I think, no, I think that's smart. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, do get that a lot? Like are people surprised?

Speaker 2: Do they tell you that?

Speaker 13: Almost?

Speaker 11: I think everything, I feel like there's always somebody who's like, yeah, you guys sound like huge.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great.

Speaker 9: We get a lot of surprise because I mean, we're all young and we're playing and lately we've been playing with people who are, you know, honestly veterans in the in the music industry, and like they've been here for decades years, you know, like and people are like, oh, young individuals with a room full of forty year olds, how is this gonna go? And when we go on stage, just you know, we blow them away, and you know, they they honestly they come up to us and they're like, I wasn't expecting that, but.

Speaker 7: I'm glad that I was here. You know, Yeah, yeah, it's definitely.

Speaker 9: I'm grateful that we can actually put that out and you know, we put on a good show and people are excited to see us. People are even getting any surprise because I mean, they can see us. But if they're not surprised by us, are we really doing our job right?

Speaker 5: Right? Yeah?

Speaker 2: I won't say who it is on the air, but Jenny and I had had a conversation actually it was after you on the show, the first time we had a conversation with somebody who we wanted to to connect you with. Who reacted? Do you do you remember this? Jenny? I won't say what it is, but who reacted like, oh they're kids, I don't know you know who I'm talking about, and funny enough, so you did end up working with them. And again I won't say on the air who it was, but you know, but I don't know if they would even mind, but it's somebody you did end up working with.

Speaker 2: So it all worked out and I think they were very happy that they they worked with you on a show. I'll tell you off air afterward who it was. But but but yeah, but now are you all like, like, are any of you still in school at this point? What is a you're in college now right?

Speaker 5: Yeah?

Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and then what about you guys you're both out of high school now right?

Speaker 7: Yeah, we both were both graduating.

Speaker 2: That's what I thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you're not you know, it's not like your kids.

Speaker 7: Anymore, right, I mean where it's grown as much as we can.

Speaker 2: There you go out, there, you go, there, you go. Now how now, what's the show schedule been?

Speaker 5: Like?

Speaker 2: It looks like you've been really busy, Like are you playing every weekend or.

Speaker 11: I mean, if we're not not doing a show, we're definitely doing like music videos or yeah, editing or something.

Speaker 13: There's no there's no break.

Speaker 2: Yeah, oh you're working hard. You're working hard. Is that hard with going to school?

Speaker 14: Is that it?

Speaker 5: Only?

Speaker 13: It can be a handful because uh I also work on top of it all.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 11: Basically it's like a six am to ten thirty at night thing, and then the weekends are my I guess show times.

Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, it's a lot. It's a lot to handle. But and and are all of you you're all only in this band, right, are any of you doing no? No, yeah, anything this band?

Speaker 10: Yeah, we're all in this band, and all our creative energy goes towards.

Speaker 2: That's great this band. That's great. Yeah, especially for you because every drummer I know is in ten different bands because nobody can find a drummer.

Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, it is a I feel like that is the thing with us, is that we all kind of end up becoming like, you know, musical swingers in a way. We we're all just kind of all over the place. But I mean I think that you know, now, you know, after I spent you know, years moving around with different projects and all that, Like, I couldn't be happier, you know, than to be with where we are now, I think that this is the band that I always you know, wanted to do and be in.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's outstanding if you're just joining us. Under the horizon is here with us in studio. And now who are some of the who are some of the acts that you've that you've played with, because you you've played with some national acts, right, yeah.

Speaker 10: So we we played with Great White and Queen's Reich last year, oh yeah, and then we met up and then we opened up again for Great White at the two Polow not too long ago, about a month ago. But other than that, we've been you know, playing with a lot of of the you know, higher up local acts obviously, as we have already mentioned a couple of times, and the whole thing Scarecrow Hill, we've done a lot of shows with them. Yeah, we've done some shows with Sepsis. We have some more upcoming shows with Stepsis.

Speaker 10: Actually, ye be.

Speaker 2: There right down the road, coming right out. Yeah that's true. It's already November, so it's only a couple of weeks away.

Speaker 9: Oh my god, Yeah, it's coming around the corner. Yeah, really look out.

Speaker 10: But yeah, a bunch of bands, a bunch of you know, a bunch of people, dead Man's Trigger, Silent Season, oh yeah, yeah, the Great Curtain, Yeah, Saving by the Right, Yeah yeah, a lot of a lot of and you know that we've you know, really been trying to reach out to every band we can because we want to be in in the scene with these people, so meeting them, talking to them and you know, sharing you know, musical conversations, notes, experiences, whatever.

Speaker 7: You want to say.

Speaker 10: I think has you know, catapulted us not only as a band, but as people. You know, I'd say we have a lot more confidence now walking into a venue, you know, when it's like, oh, we know all the bands on this bill, Yeah, and we're you know there, we're friends with them and yeah that always helps. Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2: Yeah, it helps a lot. Yeah, absolutely. Why don't we play another another track? But what should you know? I'll let you pick. This is you know, of course from the original EP. And I can't wait to hear the new stuff. But what should we play from? I got it opened?

Speaker 7: So that's a great question.

Speaker 10: Why don't we do Why don't we do a little bit if I don't want to be you, let's wake these people up this morning.

Speaker 2: I don't want to be Yeah, and tell us about this song before we play it.

Speaker 10: This song it's about when I was in fifth grade, they had this class or whatever where you would go in and you would talk to a guidance counselor about what you wanted to be, and she would go onto this government website and type in and they would give you like some hourly like.

Speaker 7: Estimated hourly wage or salary that you would get.

Speaker 10: So I was like, I want to be a musician, and she's like, well, it doesn't really pay that well, and blah blah blah. You should be a marine biologist or whatever instead and I'm like, no, thanks, Yeah, So this song is about you know, she told me that I was never gonna make it when it came to music, and you know, I think she even said that I would end up being homeless and collecting.

Speaker 7: Oh my god, tips from bars that I would play at. And I'm like, Katie, you're a school teacher, like I don't. I don't really know what the comparison is here. So anyways, this song is about my aggravation towards her.

Speaker 2: Did the website listen hourly wage for being a musician.

Speaker 10: He was like, you know, you can make anywhere from like five bucks an hour to like twenty bucks an hour. And I literally said, I'm like, but we don't make hourly wages, right yeah, alf the time, we don't even get paid, So how can you even make that equation?

Speaker 5: Right?

Speaker 3: Right?

Speaker 2: Oh that's funny, that's funny. All right, very good. This is a great track. This is I Don't want to be you.

Speaker 7: This is under the horizon wadd.

Speaker 8: Bosta Tuesday as the misery of where you don't care about my dreams?

Speaker 4: Now at least take tarantings. You may not understand, which I can understand. I'd rather live my life.

Speaker 7: You ain't want y'all I do far.

Speaker 5: I don't wanna pay you. I don't wanna f you.

Speaker 3: Don't take that's that I don't need you wanna live like I'll repeat, I'm as well spin in my eye.

Speaker 12: If you watch my dreams, you may not understand, which I may understand.

Speaker 1: I'd rather live my life.

Speaker 4: They work, don't if.

Speaker 1: I don't wanna pay you.

Speaker 5: I don't wanna fee you.

Speaker 2: Okay, you wanna be in a fand just grow up and pace it.

Speaker 7: You'll member about to ask me your life.

Speaker 5: You're a joke.

Speaker 12: I don't want to be you.

Speaker 13: I don't want to be you.

Speaker 5: I don't want to be out you want to be you.

Speaker 12: I want to be you may not understand what got good understand. I'm rather into my life then what you're not your father? You may not understand you got good understand.

Speaker 1: I rather under my life.

Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not your father.

Speaker 1: I don't want to beat.

Speaker 7: I don't want to be you.

Speaker 5: Don't don't don't.

Speaker 1: I don't want to pay you, don't don't don't.

Speaker 7: I don't want to be your.

Speaker 2: That that ought to get the blood pumping, I don't want to be you by Under the Horizon. Love that track that is so catchy and I love the I love the backstory there, Matt, that's really good.

Speaker 7: Thank you.

Speaker 2: If you are just joining us, Under the Horizon is here with us in studio. We have Matt Palmer, Jordan's Sweet and Izzie McIntyre here with us on this uh Saturday and uh sounding sounding great. Can't wait to hear the new stuff and and we might we might even hear something from the won't won't say anything official, but we might hear something on the show in the coming weeks sneak a little sneak peak to the album. Yeah, so if you are, if you are a regular listener of the show, you want to make sure you tune in every week because you might hear something new very soon from from Under the Horizon.

Speaker 2: Well, which does raise a question, do you have kind of a long term do you have any kind of an e t A on when, uh when when the new when the new one might be coming outer.

Speaker 10: We're looking about four months out now, Okay, so early early twenty twenty six. Okay, we're gonna you know, we're thinking probably around like springtime. Or so so ideally you know, before you know, the big show season, so then we can you know, release the album and then you know, we'll have a whole schedule of shows for you know, people to you know, come out.

Speaker 7: Check it out.

Speaker 10: And yeah, yeah, so about four months, so sooner. It's it's sooner than you think, you know. Okay, we've been we've been saying that because this has this album has taken a long time, but we're making it through soon.

Speaker 7: We're looking at about four months.

Speaker 2: So okay, okay, excellent. Do you have other elements like like artwork and stuff. Have you decided on that yet or a you're waiting until the album's done or we we've.

Speaker 10: I can't say that we've a fished really decided on anything, but it has all been in conversation.

Speaker 5: You know.

Speaker 10: Obviously that's all stuff we got to coordinate. But i'd say that, you know, we've had conversations on all of that, and I think we all basically have the same vision of what we want. It's just you know, get you know, having the time, you know, once we're done doing all the other stuff, to be like, okay, this is what we're gonna do. Go let's send it, you know, send it to all the companies and all that.

Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's a yeah, there's a lot of a lot of work that goes into it.

Speaker 7: For sure.

Speaker 2: I'm curious too about what what goes into the decision to, like, because you're doing a full album because there's so many different ways to release music now, and you know, you could do you can you can do an album, you can do an EP, obviously, you can do you know, a lot of artists now just do a series of singles, you know, they kind of do the inverse where and maybe those singles coalesce into an album eventually, which is completely different than the way I was like when I was growing up. You know, it was you know, for a single goes to radio six eight weeks before the album, then the album comes out.

Speaker 2: Then if everything goes well, you get a second single, maybe a third single. But now it's like there's so many different ways to do it now.

Speaker 11: It's kind of I think the plan with this album we've we've I guess heard from a lot of other bands that leasing like song at a time usually works better because unfortunately, in this day and age, people's attention spans are a lot lower so to keep people's like I guess, attention. You know, yeah, sometimes it's easier to you know, give them something to chew on and then come back like a week or two later and get something else.

Speaker 7: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah, So when you do, is it important to you as a band to have like, uh yeah, I don't know, like is there any kind of a theme to these or something that kind of binds the songs together that are going.

Speaker 7: To be on the new album or absolutely. I mean I'd say that.

Speaker 10: When we when we went into writing this record, we had kind of a vision where like, Okay, we want to you know, still be ourselves, but we want to be heavier. We want to be darker, more gothic, and we wanted to you know, implement more elements of you know, some of the other stuff that we'd been listening to. You know, like Izzy has put some of her classical influences in on this album and gothic influences, and I know from me and Jordan, there's some you know, influences from bands like Tool and you know heavier bands Pantera, Yeah, stuff like that, and even you know, some new metal stuff like you know, slip Nod and you know, Limp and just whatever you know tickles our brain.

Speaker 7: Yeah.

Speaker 10: And then but I'd say overall, where like we wanted to be heavier, more encompassing, darker.

Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And how is the live show, because you touched on it earlier, the live show, how is that? How has that changed? You mentioned that's also kind of changed as the music is has gotten heavier, Like are there are there specific elements that have changed or is it just how you all kind of perform individually on stage or I.

Speaker 13: Think our energies really have changed.

Speaker 11: I think we've put a lot more energy into our performance, and I mean there's some added I guess stage gimmicks as well, And I would.

Speaker 13: Just say more.

Speaker 11: I guess maybe for Jordan, like the movement that he moves a lot more. I feel a lot more exaggerated. We get off stage two for anyone who hasn't seen us, and we try to interact the crowd. But I say, just overall, our energy is a lot higher than I think.

Speaker 5: It used to be.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 9: Yeah, Because I mean I remember watching like the Great White Video, you know, when we first played the show that you guys get to and like it's just drag drag drag. I'm just watching I'm barely moving. We're all like we're young, so I mean, dude, like, you know, obviously you got to cut a little slack as we were young. Yeah, you know, first little bit in the music industry. But like, yeah, now it's just like we actually function like a real theatrical I guess band.

Speaker 7: How things are.

Speaker 9: The music's good, theatrics are good, and we've all just grown to have our own like you know, building the band, but also us individually all have our little gimmicks and you know, our personalization to ourselves that way.

Speaker 7: It's not just like you're a group of kids.

Speaker 9: It's just you all are three musicians with three separate talents, and you make one big unit. Right, So it's definitely cool to see that, you know, turn out in the live.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I just realized as you were talking about that too. That was a great white show. That was was that? That wasn't your first show, was it?

Speaker 5: Or was it.

Speaker 2: Second? What was the first one?

Speaker 11: It was Rochester Arts Center probably, and it was mostly just honestly for like friends and family.

Speaker 5: Yeah.

Speaker 9: Yeah, it was very interesting going from like fifteen people on our first gag and then it was like five hundred the next day and you're like, oh, well, this is.

Speaker 7: Where we're at now, Like yeah, see, that didn't even occur to me until now.

Speaker 2: That must have been wild too.

Speaker 7: It was I remember having insane.

Speaker 9: There were a lot of nerves backstage right before we went on stage, and I can imagine yeah, yeah, and Mike had to give us the little coaches speech and be like, this could be your life for the rest of your lives, and this could be the breaking point.

Speaker 7: You guys got to lock in, and I'm like, okay, let's lock in.

Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I need. It was great. It was excellent, you know. It's and also too, you know, so to be in front of a crowd that size so quickly, and also, I mean, you guys don't sound like great White, so there's always right. I mean, I don't know if you were nervous about that at all, but I mean I think I think broadly speaking, people who are fans of rock music are fans of rock music and like a lot of different genres and so yeah, but so it's easy to overthink it. But still it must have been. I mean, it had to be in the back of your minds, like this is this crowd gonna like.

Speaker 7: Us it is.

Speaker 11: It definitely is almost I think with any show that we play, regardless of where it is, we always think, like, one, do we really work well genre wise with other bands.

Speaker 13: And people gonna like it? Because you know, when you go from like lighter rock to the metal, it's kind of like jarring.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9: And you know, we've we've had bands that, unfortunately, we just find it hard to you know, really do gigs with them because it's like, not only do we have to pertain to the crowd, but the bands also have to pertain to us, and we also have to have compatibility with those bands musically yea. And that evolution has kind of put a little bit of a stick in the road where it's like, how many gigs can we really do for the more older hard rock you know listening people, and you know, but all in the same time, can we really do that many metal shows because we're not like metalcore or like anything, you know, very crazy crazy like that.

Speaker 9: Right, So we kind of fall into this again, like we had this before, this little middle ground where we're not exactly metal, but we're not exactly hard rocks.

Speaker 7: So now we're trying to even it out a little bit. But yeah, we make it work.

Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what we do absolutely.

Speaker 10: I mean i'd say that, you know, I think, you know, we we sit, you know, we think about that, but i'd say that overall, I think we always end up coming to the same conclusion of we got to be ourselves, and we always go out there and we you know, show fully ourselves one hundred and ten percent, and we figure, you know, if the people like it, they like it, and if they don't, whatever, they can walk out and go smoke a tube out in the parking lot or something like that. But yeah, I mean we've never really had much of an issue with that.

Speaker 10: We've played in front of a bunch of different crowds, you know, whether it be Great White or Juggalos at the Lethal weekend there, and it always, it always ends up great, and we always end up you know, meeting new fans, meeting new friends, and you know, having you know, honestly meeting fans that we might not have met if we were to you know, exclusively do shows with like a band that we were exactly like, right, you know, so that we really love doing, you know, as much as you know, sure we might in the moment be like, oh my God, are they gonna, you know, like this, are they going to like that?

Speaker 10: At the end of the day, we like being ourselves to show people to you know, hopefully widen the you know, bring more people in. Music is about you know, speaking where words can't and including everyone and you know, all working together to bring some wonderful art out into the world. So we love, we love doing stuff like that.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well said, Well, the time goes quickly. So thank you all three of you for are joining us today. Always wonderful to have you on. I do want to close out the show with one more song of yours. I'm going to give you a minute. You can take a minute to think about it though, because while you're thinking about that, Jenny, for listeners who don't know, you showed nothing, you showed up. What did I show up in John Oliver's show. I did last week tonight, last weekend.

Speaker 15: So I did with some other people that I have had the honor and privilege of fighting alongside of for the last number of years.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 15: Yeah, it was really exciting to be on John Oliver's show. If you haven't seen it, it's streaming on YouTube and you can also find it on Jencoffee dot com.

Speaker 2: Yes, E N N C O F f UI dot com.

Speaker 7: Keep up with all the good trouble I'm getting into.

Speaker 2: Yeah, so congratulations on that. Thank you, absolutely absolutely, and I do want to thank everyone who joined us today. Of course Eric Pilcher and Charles Richardson who were with us in the second hour. Uh and in the first hour, of course we had Eleanor and Andre don't forget tonight Terminus Underground. They've got vices inc. Grim the acronym and Island of Alaska. That's gonna be a great show. And Jenny, you and I are going to be there next Saturday on the eighth, on November eighth, We're gonna be a Terminus Underground that night for that show.

Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that next week. We will, we will. Yeah, So lots of lots of good stuff going on.

Speaker 15: Thank you for remembering that I'm here.

Speaker 2: Yes, of course, yes, I know. Where's the best place to go online for people to keep up with everything under the horizon is doing.

Speaker 9: Anywhere dot Org, Facebook, Instagram, literally any social media if you if you exist on the platform, we exist on your for you page outstanding. Yeah, you basically just load up any social media if you use websites under the Horizon dot org.

Speaker 7: We got all our gigs merch.

Speaker 5: You know.

Speaker 9: Our first album is on there for free listen and you can go on the Spotify from there. Yeah, listen to it from there. We got our little news part, you know, keep us updated as well. We have a couple of live shows coming up.

Speaker 2: We do when's the next show? Or mentioned the next couple if you want to, so the we.

Speaker 7: Only got a couple. We got a couple of shows left for the year. Here.

Speaker 10: The next show we got is next Friday. We're going to be up at Rumors in Biddeford, Maine, which is a new venue that we've never played at. Cool, but we're doing that with our friends Scarecrow Hill Defined Perspective and Paradise is canceled. The next Friday, on the fourteenth, we're going to be at the Cannery and Southbridge, mass with three Degrees. They're an amazing manor James keenan tribute band. Oh cool, so they do you know tool perfect Circle plus a furth.

Speaker 7: They're great.

Speaker 10: Yea, As we said, the fifteenth, we're going to be right here in Manchester City at the Jewel Nightclub, yes, that's going to be an amazing show there and then sixteenth, it's not really a show, but we're going to be going to New England Music Awards because we got nominated for Metal Act Year.

Speaker 2: Congratulations, excellent, excellent.

Speaker 7: And then for the last show of the year.

Speaker 10: If anyone who's listening is looking for a concert that's maybe a little bit different than the normal experience, uh, you can come see us December thirteenth and fall River. We're going to be doing a show with midget wrestling.

Speaker 10: Is this is this with loud entertainment, This is with loud what you said and louds and loud entertained excellent. Yeah, so we do songs you see midget wrestling, metal and midget wrestling.

Speaker 7: It's a great night. It's great. It's so much fun, so much fun.

Speaker 10: So check out those who come see us live. We can't wait to see you guys in the pit. Outstanding, outstanding. And what are we going to play to end the show?

Speaker 2: What do you want to go with?

Speaker 13: Under the Horizon?

Speaker 2: Under the Horizon track? Very good, very good, We get that ready and yeah, thank you all, Thank you all again so much having goes here, just waiting for the track to load up. I'm trying downloading it from uh Google drive and it's running a little slow, which is not because of any particular reason other than it does that once in a while. But here it comes okay, there it is under the horizon, under the horizon, by under the horizon. To close out this week's Matt Connorton Unleashed, Thanks everybody, come.

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