Matt Connarton Unleashed 11-1-25 hour 2

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0:27 Speaker 6: If you are listening live, today is Saturday, November first,

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0:51 Speaker 6: et cetera. Jenny is here at the news table present

0:54 Speaker 6: that account of for is your computer not turning on

0:56 Speaker 6: at all?

0:57 Speaker 7: Not turning on? I'm not sure what just topped?

1:00 Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, well is it? Uh? Is it charged up?

1:04 Speaker 5: Or is it? Is it plugged in? It's plugged in, yeah,

1:06 Speaker 5: plugged in?

1:07 Speaker 7: Oh screen, and now it won't turn back on.

1:10 Speaker 5: Oh that's not good.

1:11 Speaker 7: I'm a little concerned.

1:13 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, also joining us uh via restream. So we've

1:18 Speaker 6: got hopefully uh they can uh, they can hear us

1:21 Speaker 6: and we can hear them. We've got both Charles Richardson

1:24 Speaker 6: and Eric Pilcher with us.

1:25 Speaker 8: Hey, guys, president accounted for Hey.

1:31 Speaker 5: Charles, I can hear you. Eric. I thought I heard something,

1:34 Speaker 5: but say something.

1:38 Speaker 4: You have me?

1:39 Speaker 5: Oh, there we go, there we go. It was hard

1:41 Speaker 5: to hear you at first.

1:42 Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, the the initial sound I heard was something

1:46 Speaker 9: relevant to what I see on Ghost Hunters.

1:50 Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, I know it's Halloween time, but uh,

1:54 Speaker 6: I hope Eric you're still with us and you haven't

1:56 Speaker 6: become a ghost.

1:58 Speaker 9: No, no, no, no, it's it is November one. It

2:01 Speaker 9: is officially went from Halloween to Christmas according to the

2:06 Speaker 9: Disney calendar.

2:07 Speaker 5: Oh good lord, really is that true?

2:10 Speaker 8: Yes?

2:11 Speaker 9: They overnight, they transformed the Magic Kingdom and all the

2:14 Speaker 9: parks from all their Halloween stuff and now everything is Christmas.

2:19 Speaker 3: They skips.

2:22 Speaker 8: Yeah, these skip thinks given nobody cares about things.

2:25 Speaker 5: Oh that's terrible.

2:28 Speaker 6: Oh oh boy, Eric, we're having a we're having an

2:31 Speaker 6: issue with your sound.

2:32 Speaker 5: Brother. Do you wanna do you wanna got heartbreaking.

2:35 Speaker 6: Oh there we go there, Eric, speak a couple of sentences.

2:40 Speaker 6: I want to make sure it sounds. It seems like

2:42 Speaker 6: they're cutting it out, say a couple of full sentences

2:44 Speaker 6: for us.

2:50 Speaker 8: Yeah, you kind of were going in and out to

2:51 Speaker 8: a little bit. So I'm not sure if it's your

2:52 Speaker 8: connection too.

2:53 Speaker 5: I don't know because I can hear you clearly.

2:56 Speaker 4: I hope I'm on the air right now. I hope everything.

3:01 Speaker 5: Uhh you're cutting in and out.

3:04 Speaker 9: Eric, we're on we're on a massive delay, Matt. I

3:09 Speaker 9: think you need to go ahead and cut this off

3:11 Speaker 9: and bring us back in really hm hm, yes, sir,

3:18 Speaker 9: we're about five second delay.

3:20 Speaker 6: Yeah, here's a here's a thought.

3:25 Speaker 5: Eric.

3:25 Speaker 6: Can you call the studio line and Charles can we

3:28 Speaker 6: Did we use WhatsApp with you once before?

3:34 Speaker 8: I don't think so, but you can go ahead and

3:36 Speaker 8: use it if you want to.

3:38 Speaker 6: Well, let's try this because because Eric, Eric is uh,

3:43 Speaker 6: Eric is cutting in and out. Eric, can you call

3:46 Speaker 6: the studio line?

3:50 Speaker 5: See, I can't even hear have multiple.

3:54 Speaker 7: I think you're isn't Charles fine on restream?

3:57 Speaker 6: We'd have to Yeah, Charles is saying, though there's a

3:59 Speaker 6: delay on him, his end is the problem. We're getting

4:02 Speaker 6: a delay. But I wonder what would happen if we

4:05 Speaker 6: take Eric out, if Eric calls the studio line and

4:08 Speaker 6: then Charles stays on restream because because we're having a

4:11 Speaker 6: problem hearing Eric anyway, like Eric, Erics just keeps cutting

4:14 Speaker 6: out completely. Can you call the studio line?

4:17 Speaker 5: Eric? He left? Okay, okay, now are you still hearing me?

4:24 Speaker 5: On a delay?

4:26 Speaker 8: I'm hearing you now?

4:28 Speaker 5: Okay? Good?

4:29 Speaker 8: Wait, okay, so we're only a couple of seconds, maybe.

4:31 Speaker 5: A couple couple seconds.

4:32 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, so Eric, Well let's let Eric just

4:36 Speaker 6: call the studio line and that way we can all

4:38 Speaker 6: hear each other. Because there was something something wrong with

4:41 Speaker 6: Eric's connection. Oh, Eric just messaged something. Well, no, I

4:47 Speaker 6: was wrong, that was something else.

4:48 Speaker 5: That popped up. Okay, all right, well it's my computer.

4:51 Speaker 5: Oh good, your computer's power to laugh at me? What happened?

4:54 Speaker 5: What happened?

4:55 Speaker 7: The power strip was turned off and the battery.

4:57 Speaker 6: Went, oh okay, well that's good, so it's still works.

5:00 Speaker 6: It still works, all right, very good, very good.

5:03 Speaker 7: Power.

5:04 Speaker 5: All right.

5:05 Speaker 7: I'm over here, button Charles.

5:08 Speaker 10: I'm holding the laptop up to my ear trying to

5:12 Speaker 10: hear it running.

5:14 Speaker 5: Wow.

5:15 Speaker 9: Can you imagine back in the day when those people,

5:18 Speaker 9: those people in the eighties are holding up boom boxes.

5:21 Speaker 9: That's probably what you must have felt like.

5:23 Speaker 10: Kind of yeah, like and i' I have hearing aids,

5:26 Speaker 10: so my hearing's not the greatest. If trying to see

5:28 Speaker 10: if it's Can I hear anything going on in there?

5:31 Speaker 5: Well, that's what it looked like.

5:33 Speaker 8: Boom boom boom like that.

5:36 Speaker 5: That's what it looked like.

5:37 Speaker 6: I look over at Jenny and She's got the computer

5:39 Speaker 6: up to her face and I'm like, what I'm thinking,

5:41 Speaker 6: what is she doing trying to tell.

5:42 Speaker 7: Us the motor?

5:44 Speaker 1: All right?

5:45 Speaker 8: God it was a desktop?

5:47 Speaker 7: Well then I would have then I would have been doomed.

5:49 Speaker 4: Yeah.

5:50 Speaker 6: Well, so we have a call on the line from Iowa.

5:53 Speaker 6: I'm assuming this is Eric.

5:55 Speaker 8: Eric.

5:56 Speaker 4: Is that you, Yes, I'm here, hopefully not seeing it

6:04 Speaker 4: after life dimention right.

6:05 Speaker 6: No, we can hear you. We can hear you very clearly.

6:08 Speaker 6: Now this is this is gonna work much better. Thanks Eric. Yeah,

6:10 Speaker 6: for some reason, you just kept cutting in and out

6:13 Speaker 6: and we were only getting uh, bits and pieces of

6:15 Speaker 6: what you were saying. And uh, but Charles, you can

6:17 Speaker 6: you can hear both of us.

6:18 Speaker 9: Right, Oh yeah, absolutely, it was it was my presence

6:22 Speaker 9: that caused the disruption in the force.

6:25 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, understandable, understandable. That's right.

6:32 Speaker 6: So for those of you who are not familiar, why

6:34 Speaker 6: would the three of us be talking about something, It

6:36 Speaker 6: must be it must be well for you're you're here

6:39 Speaker 6: as well.

6:39 Speaker 10: But sometimes he thanks on the afterthought, we know what

6:44 Speaker 10: you're having for dinner, and.

6:45 Speaker 6: I well, well sometimes Jenny though you kind of check

6:54 Speaker 6: out because you're doing your macromay.

6:56 Speaker 7: I like brustling.

6:58 Speaker 6: I was going to pay attention, you know. I know

7:00 Speaker 6: now we watch wrestling every week, that's true. That is true.

7:03 Speaker 5: On who's computer on your computer?

7:05 Speaker 3: Right?

7:05 Speaker 6: Hopefully he keeps working, I know, got to make sure

7:09 Speaker 6: it's plugged in. So, of course, Eric Pilch and I

7:12 Speaker 6: we do the Tough Bumps podcast and Charles you of course,

7:16 Speaker 6: what's the show that you do with I forget his

7:19 Speaker 6: name now, is it Zach Zodiac or something?

7:23 Speaker 8: Zach Zodiac actually is a real wrestler from the UK.

7:25 Speaker 8: But so his name is Josh Zodiac.

7:27 Speaker 5: OK, gotcha?

7:30 Speaker 8: So yeah, he does a podcast, He does recordings and

7:32 Speaker 8: stuff like that. He doesn't do it live like I do.

7:36 Speaker 9: Which, by the way, shameless plug, I will be doing

7:39 Speaker 9: at seven o'clock a live stream of Saturday night's event. Oh,

7:43 Speaker 9: very good, use tonight and that you guys are more

7:47 Speaker 9: than welcome to join if you want.

7:49 Speaker 8: But Josh will be joining me as well.

7:50 Speaker 5: Very good, very good, Josh Zodiac. Okay, gotcha, gotcha.

7:54 Speaker 6: And of course you're the host of the Charles Richardson Show,

7:57 Speaker 6: which you do live.

7:58 Speaker 5: Is that Monday and Wednesday night hour.

8:01 Speaker 9: It is still Monday and Wednesday. Thanks to my employment

8:06 Speaker 9: being uh kind of up in the air for the

8:09 Speaker 9: past month or so, it probably will stay Monday and

8:13 Speaker 9: Wednesday until otherwise determined. Okay, but still Eastern.

8:18 Speaker 5: Okay, very good, very good. What do you guys want

8:24 Speaker 5: to Uh, we didn't.

8:25 Speaker 6: Really plan anything because I figured the three of us,

8:28 Speaker 6: you know, we'll find things to talk about pretty easily.

8:31 Speaker 7: There's only three people present on the four of us.

8:33 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Jenny.

8:35 Speaker 7: He's gonna walk home.

8:38 Speaker 9: Wait wait, wait wait, I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead

8:40 Speaker 9: and sabotage this interview right here, Jenny, Yes, you have

8:44 Speaker 9: a store talk about with wrestling today.

8:46 Speaker 10: Okay, seriously, my new absolute favorite Iguana I love him.

8:51 Speaker 7: Oh, mister, that match was insane.

8:54 Speaker 6: We do love mister Iguana. Jenny is referring to, of course,

8:57 Speaker 6: the match from NXT.

8:59 Speaker 7: Yes, why did you guys watch that?

9:03 Speaker 5: You didn't watch?

9:04 Speaker 4: Got to have not? I am.

9:08 Speaker 10: I wasn't one for watching NFC that much, but I

9:11 Speaker 10: am so into it now.

9:13 Speaker 9: I am a run SmackDown person. Obviously NXT is sort

9:17 Speaker 9: of an afterthought for me.

9:18 Speaker 5: Oh but I know what is so much?

9:20 Speaker 11: Like?

9:21 Speaker 10: Yeah, there's so much there now though, there is so

9:25 Speaker 10: much talent there now, and a lot of players throw

9:28 Speaker 10: up as well.

9:29 Speaker 7: It's you know they're there too.

9:31 Speaker 5: Were you gonna say?

9:32 Speaker 4: Eric RCW affiliate in Cedar Rapids, for whatever reason, does

9:40 Speaker 4: not have the greatest signal. It's a digital sub channel

9:44 Speaker 4: here in Cedar Rapids. So even if you use a

9:48 Speaker 4: streaming service like I do, like YouTube TV, it does,

9:52 Speaker 4: it's not the best quality. So usually if I catch NXT,

9:57 Speaker 4: I wait for it to stream.

9:59 Speaker 6: Oh okay, yeah, you can stream it on the CWU

10:03 Speaker 6: website too. I think it's just c W dot com.

10:06 Speaker 6: You can stream it for free of course. Now, Jenny

10:09 Speaker 6: and I you know we.

10:09 Speaker 5: Got our yes, we followed.

10:12 Speaker 10: Uh, we helped me Stephanie mcman's advice and got a vp.

10:17 Speaker 6: We took her advice, We got a vp N. She's

10:19 Speaker 6: our VPN goddess of course. And uh and now we

10:22 Speaker 6: watch we get uninterrupted action to quote her promo.

10:26 Speaker 5: UH.

10:26 Speaker 6: With the uh Netflix where everything is available to us,

10:29 Speaker 6: it just opened up a whole new world.

10:35 Speaker 7: I don't think Charles was expecting me to have a clue.

10:39 Speaker 9: No, listen, I definitely want I definitely want to take

10:44 Speaker 9: a look at mister Iguana. I want to see his

10:46 Speaker 9: costume and everything like that.

10:47 Speaker 5: He's very funny.

10:47 Speaker 8: If he really isn't want that, that's something I would

10:51 Speaker 8: so challenged.

10:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I have I have seen people online say

11:01 Speaker 4: that's who Dan Housen has ripped off.

11:04 Speaker 6: Oh Dan Housen. Yeah, they're saying that he's ripped off

11:07 Speaker 6: mister Iguana. That wouldn't have occurred to me. Yes, interesting, interesting.

11:14 Speaker 8: I want to come on some.

11:15 Speaker 4: Of the mannerisms and everything like that.

11:18 Speaker 5: Oh okay, okay, go ahead, Charleston.

11:20 Speaker 4: But I've never been able to contribute because I don't

11:23 Speaker 4: have a you know, I've seen Dan Housen, but I

11:27 Speaker 4: haven't seen much from mister Iguana. And I don't want

11:29 Speaker 4: to go out there and be like, oh I agree,

11:31 Speaker 4: oh I disagree, and yeah not have a real opinion.

11:36 Speaker 5: Gotcha, gotcha?

11:38 Speaker 10: Super super talented, I mean amazing. And then the other

11:41 Speaker 10: new one that I love that has I swear the

11:43 Speaker 10: highest leaps in the industry.

11:46 Speaker 6: Oh, Javon Evans, who literally looks like he floats the

11:49 Speaker 6: way he bounces around.

11:50 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's incredible too. We were you gonna say, Charles?

11:55 Speaker 9: So I really wanted to come on here, and I

11:56 Speaker 9: wanted to discuss the recent episodes of Ron SmackDown and

11:59 Speaker 9: also try to touch on tonight's event, which only has

12:03 Speaker 9: force for it matches, but still I wanted to go

12:06 Speaker 9: ahead and see how everybody thought that this was going

12:08 Speaker 9: to play out. Okay, well I didn't want to since

12:11 Speaker 9: we're talking about athleticism, I kind of want to talk

12:14 Speaker 9: about the the show they're dragging off and and Nathan

12:21 Speaker 9: Fraser that if you saw that, this is kind of

12:24 Speaker 9: like Nathan Fraser's coming out.

12:27 Speaker 5: So we have not Jenny and I I should tell.

12:29 Speaker 8: You really were solo. You're talking about athleticism, Yeah.

12:33 Speaker 6: A whole lot of So Jenny and I have not

12:36 Speaker 6: watched last night's We haven't haven't seen last Night yet.

12:39 Speaker 5: We haven't seen last night SmackDown yet.

12:41 Speaker 6: We're a little bit behind because I'm on the air

12:43 Speaker 6: of Friday nights for Retrospectrum Radio, so we end up

12:46 Speaker 6: watching SmackDown the next day. But I'm not surprised. I mean,

12:49 Speaker 6: it's so it sounds like that was a really good match,

12:51 Speaker 6: is what you're saying.

12:54 Speaker 4: It really was. So we did see that match, okay,

12:58 Speaker 4: and I think you know, both guys just put it

13:04 Speaker 4: all on the line, and really it really was a

13:08 Speaker 4: great match, probably one of the better SmackDown matches this year.

13:12 Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, I'm curious to see it. Ilia Dragonoff is incredible.

13:18 Speaker 6: Go ahead, go ahead, Charles.

13:19 Speaker 9: My question to you guys too, including Jenny, are you

13:23 Speaker 9: surprised that Ilia Dragonoff went ahead, came back after a

13:26 Speaker 9: year and actually went ahead and is now a content,

13:29 Speaker 9: is now a.

13:30 Speaker 8: Champion just in his first match.

13:35 Speaker 9: All But I mean, as storyline material goes, you think

13:38 Speaker 9: that's a little bit of a surprise.

13:40 Speaker 5: I think it's cool. I like it. I think he's incredible.

13:45 Speaker 7: He is incredible.

13:46 Speaker 4: I didn't do it. It's very smart. It was very

13:51 Speaker 4: smart to do it with the United States title. But

13:57 Speaker 4: I think, you know, it's emblematic, so to speak, of

14:03 Speaker 4: the way trip H and Sean kind of run things,

14:07 Speaker 4: which is a good thing, is because it's expect the unexpected.

14:12 Speaker 4: I think we're programmed to kind of be like, okay,

14:15 Speaker 4: when a mid when a mid card talent and I

14:18 Speaker 4: don't mean that negatively comes back into the fold. It's

14:23 Speaker 4: a slow burn. You just kind of build them back

14:26 Speaker 4: up and everything. But to do it this way, I

14:31 Speaker 4: think it's a great idea. I think it adds to

14:34 Speaker 4: the unexpectedness.

14:36 Speaker 6: What I like and I think we will probably all

14:38 Speaker 6: agree on this is when one of the fun things

14:41 Speaker 6: about wrestling obviously is the surprises, but you also want surprises,

14:45 Speaker 6: but logical surprises with logical storytelling, and I think that's

14:50 Speaker 6: what something like this gives us.

14:51 Speaker 5: I think Triple H is excellent at that. I think

14:54 Speaker 5: back to, you know, the Vince.

14:55 Speaker 6: Russo era where it was like, you know, surprises for

14:57 Speaker 6: the sake of surprises when he was in charge of

15:01 Speaker 6: creative But I really like it. And by the way,

15:02 Speaker 6: I think Elliot Dragonov is incredible and he has a

15:05 Speaker 6: huge outside.

15:06 Speaker 8: He is absolutely That's why I'm head.

15:11 Speaker 4: Writer of Juggalo Championship wrestling.

15:14 Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess Vince Russo is now working for Juggalo

15:16 Speaker 6: Championship Wrestling.

15:17 Speaker 5: Uh good, good luck. Wow, wait you.

15:24 Speaker 4: Know I want to touch on that real quick. And uh.

15:28 Speaker 4: I love Charles's response, Like, the guys from Insane Clown

15:33 Speaker 4: Posse have really carved out a niche wrestling audience. They

15:39 Speaker 4: know wrestling, and I mean it's obvious because they've been

15:44 Speaker 4: able to stay afloat if they know wrestling. What does

15:49 Speaker 4: Vince Russo bring to the table legitimately? I mean I

15:55 Speaker 4: am not a fan of him.

15:56 Speaker 8: That is.

15:59 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Charles, that is pretty narent I do not.

16:07 Speaker 9: A big stack of dynamite is what Vince brings to

16:09 Speaker 9: the table.

16:10 Speaker 5: There you go, There you go.

16:14 Speaker 4: I mean a big sack of dynamite eventually explodes and

16:18 Speaker 4: leaves destruction in its way.

16:21 Speaker 12: Uh.

16:24 Speaker 4: I don't get it. I get like, if you wanted

16:28 Speaker 4: to shock the world and everything, but you have a

16:32 Speaker 4: guy that has notoriously bashed pro wrestling on dark side

16:37 Speaker 4: of the ring on his own podcast, and you're gonna

16:42 Speaker 4: bring that guy in. I think in order to do

16:45 Speaker 4: anything in pro wrestling, it's so important that you have

16:49 Speaker 4: a love of pro wrestling and either Vince Russo has

16:54 Speaker 4: a love of two things, Vince Russo and money.

16:58 Speaker 9: So so Eric I wanted to I wanted to throw

17:02 Speaker 9: it out. I don't guess there You're you're saying that

17:07 Speaker 9: Juggalo Wrestling has been established and is staying afloat because

17:12 Speaker 9: they know wrestling. Why in the blue hell would you

17:17 Speaker 9: bring in somebody that's a cancer like mister Russo.

17:23 Speaker 4: That That's exactly my point, Charles, I don't get it.

17:28 Speaker 4: You know, I've always kind of given Juggalo Championship Wrestling

17:33 Speaker 4: there do in the sense that they would that they

17:37 Speaker 4: would help the down and out wrestlers. When Scott Scott

17:41 Speaker 4: Hall was really down and out after some debacles he

17:46 Speaker 4: had before d DP got ahold of him, Juggalo Championship

17:50 Speaker 4: Wrestling still booked it and did it in a way

17:54 Speaker 4: that wouldn't embarrass him like other promoters were doing. Right

18:00 Speaker 4: the list of Greg the Hammer Valentine, they paid for

18:04 Speaker 4: one of his surgeries and gave him an appearance on

18:10 Speaker 4: their show on IFC when it was on very very

18:13 Speaker 4: very briefly. So they definitely have helped a lot of

18:19 Speaker 4: the quote unquote old time wrestlers. So I agree, Charles,

18:24 Speaker 4: I don't get the fit. If I love pro wrestling

18:28 Speaker 4: and I were running a pro wrestling promotion, I would

18:32 Speaker 4: much rather be I would much rather, you know, have

18:36 Speaker 4: the Rajah Jackson incident on my hands, that have Vince

18:40 Speaker 4: Russo writing creative.

18:43 Speaker 9: I mean, just to close on my point here, I

18:45 Speaker 9: think Vince Russell obviously he has a lot, He has

18:48 Speaker 9: a lot on his resume, but yes he also has

18:51 Speaker 9: a lot negative, especially about his public opinions on pro wrestling.

18:56 Speaker 9: So I think you The only thing I could think

18:58 Speaker 9: of is you bring it in, because yes, street cred,

19:01 Speaker 9: That's the only thing.

19:02 Speaker 5: That was my thought too.

19:03 Speaker 6: I have a question, though, has has Vince Russo confirmed

19:06 Speaker 6: publicly that he is in fact working for them? I

19:09 Speaker 6: asked that only because you know, he's got a little

19:12 Speaker 6: bit of a checkered past in terms well in a

19:13 Speaker 6: lot of ways, but also in terms of employment. Like

19:16 Speaker 6: remember when he was secretly working for TNA, but but

19:19 Speaker 6: it was supposed to be a secret and then Dixie

19:22 Speaker 6: Carter sent an email to the wrong person or something

19:24 Speaker 6: and it was exposed and.

19:26 Speaker 5: That hold debacle.

19:27 Speaker 6: So has Vince Russo confirmed that he is now working

19:30 Speaker 6: for Juggalo Championship wrestling.

19:33 Speaker 4: He says he's written nine episodes of TV. Okay, I

19:38 Speaker 4: don't I don't recall Charles maybe you can clue me

19:43 Speaker 4: in or Jenny Championship Brestling. They didn't even have a

19:47 Speaker 4: streaming TV deal right now. I don't think. Wow, where

19:53 Speaker 4: these nine episodes of TV are gonna air is beyond me.

19:57 Speaker 5: Probably YouTube has put them on YouTube.

20:00 Speaker 9: So Juggler Championship Wrestling made this official that Vince was

20:04 Speaker 9: working with them. Uh on October twenty sixth, less than about.

20:10 Speaker 8: A week ago.

20:11 Speaker 5: Oh, on my birthday.

20:12 Speaker 9: So this is just this is just happening. It was

20:15 Speaker 9: announced that Russo wasn't investor to Juggler Championship Wrestling.

20:21 Speaker 8: That's interesting, and he put he's put money into it.

20:25 Speaker 8: Whether he's pulling any strings is beyond me.

20:29 Speaker 5: That's interesting.

20:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, Vince Russo has cooborated that he is he is

20:39 Speaker 4: doing some create for them, which godspeed, God speed jugglers. Well, uh,

20:50 Speaker 4: you know, you know what the definition of insanity is

20:54 Speaker 4: and I'll leave it at that.

20:57 Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, I've never said they be insane clown possely

21:01 Speaker 9: for nothing.

21:02 Speaker 8: Ainsane is in their first name.

21:09 Speaker 4: You know that that is very true.

21:11 Speaker 5: You know I'm not a I'm not a fan.

21:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, Eric, I don't wish them ill, will

21:21 Speaker 4: I just I'm sure, just like everyone involved in this conversation.

21:27 Speaker 4: I hate to sound like a Debbie Downer, but you

21:31 Speaker 4: know how this is gonna end. We've seen this book.

21:36 Speaker 4: If we've read this book, we've seen this episode. We

21:39 Speaker 4: know how this is going to end. I think the

21:42 Speaker 4: flame Out is going to be better than any TV

21:45 Speaker 4: he writes.

21:47 Speaker 9: Yeah, and they go looking for the probably looking to

21:52 Speaker 9: err it on MTV because they lost all their credibility.

21:56 Speaker 5: I just I will say this.

21:57 Speaker 6: I mean, I've never watched any Juggalo Championship wrestling, but

22:01 Speaker 6: I assume it's just it's the kind of thing that

22:03 Speaker 6: wouldn't appeal to me anyway, right, I mean that's my impression.

22:05 Speaker 6: It's like a lot of like, you know, garbage matches,

22:08 Speaker 6: you know, just a lot of stuff with weapons and

22:10 Speaker 6: stupid stuff, right like probably the bottom of the bottom

22:14 Speaker 6: rung of the ladder. In terms of content, I would

22:16 Speaker 6: guess it.

22:17 Speaker 11: Is it is EZW combat Zone wrestling with a larger budget. Okay,

22:26 Speaker 11: now where I could see Vince Russo actually working, and.

22:33 Speaker 4: This is they do. It's all off the coup. Everything

22:38 Speaker 4: they do with these shows is on the fly. So

22:42 Speaker 4: now that I think about it, and we've been talking,

22:45 Speaker 4: this might be Vince Russo's cup of tea here because

22:52 Speaker 4: his crash TV fraud would actually fly in this environment.

23:00 Speaker 4: Out Does it have long term success, Absolutely not, because

23:06 Speaker 4: in wrestling, you need story, you need steak, you need

23:11 Speaker 4: you need long term storytelling, and Vince Russo can't tell

23:16 Speaker 4: a story longer than a Bazooka Joe comic.

23:20 Speaker 9: Oh well, I mean, Eric, you take a look. This

23:23 Speaker 9: is basically up the alley of ae w's first year

23:26 Speaker 9: or two. They were able to go ahead and sustain

23:29 Speaker 9: with patch make work, but storyline material was never their

23:32 Speaker 9: cup of tea. And now you're looking at them flaming out,

23:35 Speaker 9: trying to go ahead and rebound.

23:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so Charles. That's a brilliant point because it's

23:44 Speaker 4: so hard to rebound when you lose an audience like that,

23:49 Speaker 4: When if you're not doing the basic tenets of professional wrestling,

23:57 Speaker 4: you lose, you lose the audience. It's very hard to

24:01 Speaker 4: get him back because it's like, we tried you out,

24:06 Speaker 4: you failed, We're moving on. You know. That's one of

24:11 Speaker 4: the things that makes Paul Hayman such a genius is

24:15 Speaker 4: with E c W he was able to just Frankenstein

24:22 Speaker 4: in a way that was beautiful unpredictability with long term storytelling.

24:28 Speaker 5: Right, which which you can't. You can't have both.

24:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes you can, you just have to execute it

24:37 Speaker 4: right right.

24:39 Speaker 6: That's part of why I think Triple H has been

24:41 Speaker 6: so successful with creative in WWE is because he know,

24:44 Speaker 6: he gets it. You know, you can have surprises, and

24:47 Speaker 6: that's one of the fun things about wrestling, but it

24:48 Speaker 6: also all has to make sense. And talk about long

24:52 Speaker 6: term storytelling, I mean, he's done really well at that,

24:55 Speaker 6: and that's something that you know, Vince McMahon was really

24:57 Speaker 6: good at at one time, like when I first started wrestling,

25:00 Speaker 6: when I was a kid. You know, like the first

25:02 Speaker 6: storyline I've ever got really heavily invested in was of

25:05 Speaker 6: course Macho Man Randy Savage versus hul Cogan, and that

25:07 Speaker 6: played out over a very long time. But but you know,

25:10 Speaker 6: but then Vince really kind of lost his way. But

25:13 Speaker 6: but I think that's why w W E one of

25:15 Speaker 6: the reasons. There's other reasons, but I think that's part

25:17 Speaker 6: of why it's so hot right now. That's why Jenny

25:20 Speaker 6: got got back into watching it regularly. Right, the like

25:23 Speaker 6: the storyline with the bloodline is what really kind of

25:25 Speaker 6: pulled you in right before that, even before.

25:29 Speaker 7: Even before that.

25:30 Speaker 10: Yeah, but yeah, the Hardys, Yeah that's true.

25:35 Speaker 8: Is Jenny still here?

25:36 Speaker 1: Oh?

25:37 Speaker 10: Yes, I'm here. Another one to hear from. See if

25:42 Speaker 10: I book you again?

25:44 Speaker 5: Jenny? Jenny is? Jenny is hile?

25:46 Speaker 4: He yes, well, booked again.

25:50 Speaker 7: I'll think about it. Did you watch any of Halloween?

25:55 Speaker 7: Have it last night with the Hardys?

25:57 Speaker 4: No?

25:58 Speaker 5: That wasn't That wasn't Halloween habit last night?

26:00 Speaker 10: No, the party Talloween.

26:04 Speaker 7: I'm mixing. I was mixing the two.

26:06 Speaker 6: Yeah, the stuff they were putting on the t NA YouTube. Yeah,

26:11 Speaker 6: anything with the Hardies.

26:12 Speaker 5: We love.

26:15 Speaker 9: Anyway, I wanted to go ahead and a couple of

26:17 Speaker 9: things that I know you guys are probably watched.

26:20 Speaker 8: You guys watched Raw, right.

26:21 Speaker 5: Ah, yes, we did?

26:23 Speaker 8: All right? So let me ask you both. Let me

26:25 Speaker 8: ask you.

26:26 Speaker 9: All questions mean not both all you questions both actually

26:29 Speaker 9: mean Eric and Jenny, but uh, everybody, I want I

26:37 Speaker 9: want to know what your thoughts are on the promo

26:40 Speaker 9: that Jay Uso and see Him Punk did to open

26:42 Speaker 9: up Raw it looks like Jay is on the verge

26:45 Speaker 9: of cracking. I'm thinking Jay is on the verge of

26:47 Speaker 9: a heel turn. I know I could agree with that.

26:51 Speaker 10: No, you noticed he wasn't doing so much with the Yeah.

26:56 Speaker 5: I don't know.

26:57 Speaker 4: Do you agree with it? Last week, on our episode

27:02 Speaker 4: of Tough Bumps, weirdly enough, we covered heel turns and

27:07 Speaker 4: what makes a good heel turn, what doesn't make a

27:10 Speaker 4: good heel turn, and the best heel turns happened organically.

27:17 Speaker 4: I do, And I said last week on the show

27:20 Speaker 4: that I do think Jayu So turns heel tonight. I

27:26 Speaker 4: I don't think seem Punk wins. I think Jayu So

27:31 Speaker 4: turns heel and you have and you have him beat

27:36 Speaker 4: Punk because I thought that tonight you would have Drew

27:41 Speaker 4: McIntyre beat Cody. But but after what I saw happened

27:45 Speaker 4: on SmackDown last night through video clips on social media,

27:50 Speaker 4: I do not believe that's the case. I believe they're

27:53 Speaker 4: going with Cody. Okay, three titles change hands tonight.

28:00 Speaker 9: Eric, let me fill you on that real quick. So

28:03 Speaker 9: the stipulations of the contract changed with Drew and Cody.

28:07 Speaker 9: Drew refused to sign the contract less unless there were stipulations.

28:13 Speaker 9: If Cody gets counted out or disqualified, he loses the title,

28:19 Speaker 9: which is not usually the case.

28:22 Speaker 8: So basically who's covering.

28:25 Speaker 5: Hmmm.

28:27 Speaker 4: So that's interesting and that makes that match very very interesting.

28:32 Speaker 4: And dare I say more must see than the punk

28:38 Speaker 4: j match and don't put on a very good match.

28:42 Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, but I think that added element

28:45 Speaker 4: of the disqualifications count you get rid of the so

28:50 Speaker 4: called championship advantage. That is great storytelling. And really I

28:56 Speaker 4: wasn't looking forward to Cody and Drew, but once once

29:03 Speaker 4: that stipulation was put into play, I'm like, they could

29:05 Speaker 4: do something really good with this.

29:08 Speaker 5: Yeah, really good.

29:10 Speaker 8: And how often do you see Cody on the bottom

29:14 Speaker 8: laying down facing the ceiling at the end of a promo?

29:18 Speaker 8: Not very often? And Drew got the better room thrown

29:20 Speaker 8: him through a.

29:21 Speaker 9: Table last night after getting in his head, Cody went

29:24 Speaker 9: ahead for the second time that I know of, maybe more,

29:28 Speaker 9: he tried to use the title to knock out Drew.

29:34 Speaker 4: And you know, that's a very good point. Charles might

29:37 Speaker 4: have swayed me.

29:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Charles might have Swayeden that I couldn't.

29:42 Speaker 4: I could see Drew winning tonight.

29:45 Speaker 5: Now I have a question.

29:47 Speaker 4: We couldn't know all three titles change hands.

29:51 Speaker 5: I have a question though about regarding Jay.

29:54 Speaker 6: Regarding Jay USO is do you guys think it's smart

29:56 Speaker 6: to turn him because the Yeat thing is goes Oh,

30:00 Speaker 6: we're huge in the arenas. I mean, that's such a

30:02 Speaker 6: big that's become such a big part of the show.

30:05 Speaker 6: I suppose in a way taking that away makes the

30:08 Speaker 6: heel turn itself more impactful and everybody will be talking

30:12 Speaker 6: about it. But but you are killing something that's that's

30:15 Speaker 6: such a that the live crowd is so into.

30:20 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just the whole Yeat thing.

30:22 Speaker 6: It's it's gotten over huge in a way that I

30:25 Speaker 6: don't know if even a year ago or anyone would

30:27 Speaker 6: have anticipated.

30:29 Speaker 5: A little bit. Maybe maybe it is, maybe it is,

30:32 Speaker 5: I don't know.

30:33 Speaker 8: The thing is.

30:36 Speaker 6: Dislikes oh on the YouTube video where the showed Jay

30:41 Speaker 6: winning the Battle Royal, that's true, that's true.

30:44 Speaker 9: Well there is there's there's such a huge, huge thing

30:48 Speaker 9: going on where the fans are yeating and also chance

30:53 Speaker 9: to see him punk they right now, you could either

30:57 Speaker 9: one of these two can win the belt and the

30:59 Speaker 9: fans gold.

31:00 Speaker 8: That's how big it is.

31:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not going to lose.

31:05 Speaker 5: But I think too part of why that YouTube video

31:09 Speaker 5: got so many dislikes is I think there's a strong

31:12 Speaker 5: fan sentiment they want La Knight, you know, before it's

31:16 Speaker 5: too late, frankly, given his age. They want l A.

31:20 Speaker 6: Knight to have his opportunity, just one run with the

31:24 Speaker 6: world title to make the fans happy, and he was

31:27 Speaker 6: deprived of that yet again.

31:28 Speaker 5: And I think that's why.

31:29 Speaker 6: See, I don't think it was backlash against Jay specifically,

31:33 Speaker 6: all the dislikes on the YouTube video. I think it

31:34 Speaker 6: was fans saying, you screwed l A. Knight yet again.

31:38 Speaker 6: At least let him get one in. At least let

31:40 Speaker 6: him have one rain with the world.

31:42 Speaker 7: When you have one brother.

31:45 Speaker 10: Mess over another brother, that brings out another type of

31:48 Speaker 10: dislike from people. People don't like brother against brother necessarily. Yeah,

31:54 Speaker 10: I'm especially doing one dirty.

31:56 Speaker 5: Yeah.

32:00 Speaker 4: The video clip of Jay Uso actually beating Gunther had

32:05 Speaker 4: around around eighty thousand dislikes. Wow, this isn't something with Jay,

32:13 Speaker 4: This isn't something that's Eric.

32:19 Speaker 9: Here's the thing with that. How he won against Gunter

32:23 Speaker 9: was complete and utter. It was a hull carcass. It

32:28 Speaker 9: was disappointing one again, Gunter, it was a complete botch.

32:34 Speaker 9: How do you go ahead and tap out on your

32:37 Speaker 9: own move in less than thirty seconds? Yeah, that is

32:41 Speaker 9: complete waste. It was a disappointing match, Carl.

32:45 Speaker 4: I couldn't agree with you more that I went on

32:48 Speaker 4: the record and saying that was one of the worst

32:52 Speaker 4: WrestleMania decisions in a championship match in a long time.

32:58 Speaker 4: I didn't like it. I still don't like it, and

33:01 Speaker 4: so yes, there could be that could be some of

33:04 Speaker 4: the fallout, but I don't know. I think that if

33:10 Speaker 4: you're goodness j heel, now is the time to do it.

33:15 Speaker 6: There could be another motivation. There could be another motivation

33:17 Speaker 6: for that too. During WWE Unreal, there's a moment where

33:21 Speaker 6: Triple H expresses concern that Jay might not be quite

33:24 Speaker 6: up to having the rockets strapped to him, so to speak,

33:27 Speaker 6: because uh that all that yeating, all the stuff he's

33:30 Speaker 6: doing with the crowd before his matches is exhausting him.

33:33 Speaker 6: Because there were a couple of times where Jay was

33:35 Speaker 6: messing up spots during his matches, and that was Triple

33:38 Speaker 6: H express that concern. I wonder are they are they

33:41 Speaker 6: going to do this and take the Yeat away so

33:44 Speaker 6: that he's stronger during his matches because he's not going

33:47 Speaker 6: to be winded or gassed up or however you want

33:49 Speaker 6: to put it during his match from all the pre

33:51 Speaker 6: match yeating with the crowd. And by the way, I

33:53 Speaker 6: know people who aren't wrestling fans think this is we're

33:56 Speaker 6: talking a foreign language now with yeat and all this stuff.

33:58 Speaker 6: But but I do here if that might be part

34:01 Speaker 6: of the reason too.

34:03 Speaker 9: It is, So you go ahead and take a look

34:05 Speaker 9: at one thing here. First off, if you're an athlete

34:08 Speaker 9: and you're getting exhausted by walking down a flight of

34:11 Speaker 9: stairs and waving your arms like a like a shark

34:15 Speaker 9: or something like that.

34:16 Speaker 8: Ye are you kidding me?

34:17 Speaker 9: You're getting winded over that you need to get back

34:20 Speaker 9: to the gym. There's two ways I see in this

34:22 Speaker 9: match going out tonight. Number One, Jimmy gets involved because

34:26 Speaker 9: they've been locked in horns and Punk wins or somehow

34:31 Speaker 9: some way Drew gets involved and this is cmpunk. So

34:38 Speaker 9: this could turn either way depending on how Triple H feels.

34:45 Speaker 5: What say you, Eric, I.

34:48 Speaker 4: Again, Charles, that's a great point. Look, I don't think

34:55 Speaker 4: I think that of all the decisions. WWE is gonna

34:59 Speaker 4: make over the next month or so because they have

35:03 Speaker 4: Survivor Series coming up at Petco Park, John Cena's final opponent.

35:09 Speaker 4: But my understanding is that decision has already been made.

35:15 Speaker 4: Is this is a pretty big decision, but it's a decision.

35:20 Speaker 4: They can't go wrong on either way they go. Depending

35:23 Speaker 4: on how they do it, they can win. I will

35:27 Speaker 4: say this, you also could get now if you have

35:32 Speaker 4: they win. I disagree with this, but it's a thought.

35:38 Speaker 4: Is you could have now CM punk apathy. You could

35:42 Speaker 4: have the fans of CM punk that are just like, oh,

35:46 Speaker 4: once again, he's in the spot once again. He doesn't

35:51 Speaker 4: kind of let what Matt alluded to with LA nine

35:54 Speaker 4: and I disagree with that wholeheartedly, But that is certainly

35:59 Speaker 4: there is an our meant to be made with that,

36:01 Speaker 4: because I don't think Punk means the title Punk's over

36:05 Speaker 4: like Rover no matter what he does.

36:07 Speaker 5: True. I think that's true.

36:10 Speaker 9: So do we think that this is my first prediction

36:14 Speaker 9: for you guys, do you think Jay wins or do

36:16 Speaker 9: you think Punk wins.

36:21 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Jay. I I think it makes

36:25 Speaker 4: more sense. Again, they can't go wrong, but strategically, it

36:31 Speaker 4: makes more sense to have Jay win that. I mean,

36:35 Speaker 4: Punk would be awesome. I'm a diehard CM punk sand

36:39 Speaker 4: has been since two thousand and three. But I think

36:45 Speaker 4: from a business standpoint, it would make sense to have

36:50 Speaker 4: Jay win.

36:51 Speaker 5: I agree. I agree, there's a there's a story you

36:53 Speaker 5: can tell there, and I'm.

36:55 Speaker 9: Gonna go I'm gonna go against the Green. I'm gonna

36:57 Speaker 9: say Punk. Here's why, with everything that happened with Seth

37:02 Speaker 9: Rowns getting an injury and everything having to move up,

37:06 Speaker 9: you knew who's gonna beat Seth Rowns for the title?

37:09 Speaker 8: Right, M No, I'm gonna go with Punk, and then

37:16 Speaker 8: that's gonna step Punk and Breaker.

37:19 Speaker 5: Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, that would be interesting.

37:24 Speaker 4: Again, there's this is a no lose situation.

37:28 Speaker 8: Agreed, but agreed. I agree with that. You you.

37:34 Speaker 4: Execution is everything, of course. I mean, you could still

37:37 Speaker 4: flub it up if it's if it's a horrible story idea.

37:41 Speaker 4: But on the surface, you can't mess this up. This

37:47 Speaker 4: isn't like the women's title match that I think they

37:51 Speaker 4: very easily could botch this if they make the wrong decision.

37:56 Speaker 8: Let's talk about that real quick too.

37:58 Speaker 9: So Jade obviously coming in attacking Tiffany turning herself heel.

38:03 Speaker 9: We were talking about heel turns. Do we agree with

38:06 Speaker 9: Jade going to heel on this one? And is she

38:10 Speaker 9: ready because she's been green for the longest time, finally

38:15 Speaker 9: got a little bit of taste with with having some belts,

38:18 Speaker 9: but is she ready for a solo career with the title?

38:23 Speaker 9: And is time play?

38:25 Speaker 6: I don't let me just I just want to say

38:28 Speaker 6: two quick things about that. One is I do want

38:30 Speaker 6: to stick up for Jade Cargill a little bit. And

38:31 Speaker 6: Eric heard me say this. I think there's a lot

38:34 Speaker 6: of criticism from the IWC of her. I think it's

38:38 Speaker 6: I think it's a bit much. I think she is

38:40 Speaker 6: underrated in terms of I think she's better. I think

38:44 Speaker 6: she's better, Jenny, you agree. I think she's better than

38:46 Speaker 6: she gets credit for. I also think she's probably from

38:49 Speaker 6: the little bit that I did see of her when

38:51 Speaker 6: she was in AEW, I think she's probably better as

38:54 Speaker 6: a heel long term, and I'm curious. I'm interested to

38:58 Speaker 6: see her develop as a heel in w double You eat, Eric,

39:02 Speaker 6: what do you think?

39:03 Speaker 4: I think she works better as a heel, but I

39:07 Speaker 4: do not think she's ready for the top spot. She

39:13 Speaker 4: I'm signing with Charles on this. She's greener than gooseterds.

39:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah.

39:22 Speaker 4: I would like to see her with an intercontinental title

39:26 Speaker 4: run first, okay, United States run, Like, let's prep her

39:32 Speaker 4: for this, let's get her better, because right now you're

39:38 Speaker 4: throwing her right into the fire with these workhorse women's

39:43 Speaker 4: wrestlers that you would put in that top tier. You know,

39:48 Speaker 4: you would assume Chelsea Green at some point would be there.

39:52 Speaker 4: You're going to assume that Alexa Blissen Charlotte will be

39:55 Speaker 4: in the mix at some point. Both are all premiere

39:59 Speaker 4: workers and botches are you. It's so easy to spot

40:06 Speaker 4: a botch when you're working with someone that is really

40:09 Speaker 4: good in the ring, and that's who she'll be working

40:13 Speaker 4: with as the top person. So I think it could

40:16 Speaker 4: expose her big time and set her back.

40:21 Speaker 9: The reason why I'll go ahead and disagree in regards

40:24 Speaker 9: to the Green wwe must see something in her. They

40:28 Speaker 9: made her Crown Jewel Champion, They went ahead and they

40:31 Speaker 9: prepped her for and another title match already, So it's

40:37 Speaker 9: not it doesn't seem like she may be as green

40:40 Speaker 9: as we thought she is. Apparently they see a lot

40:43 Speaker 9: of potential in her, and I think the second one

40:46 Speaker 9: I think might be time to let Tiffany let go

40:50 Speaker 9: of the reins. I think with her turning heel and

40:53 Speaker 9: getting into Tiffany's head which we saw on SmackDown, that

40:58 Speaker 9: could be the the turning point where I think Jade

41:03 Speaker 9: finally goes ahead and cleans up her act and actually

41:05 Speaker 9: gets a belt.

41:06 Speaker 5: You know, the irony, the irony of that.

41:09 Speaker 8: I'm gonna go ahead and put a picking. I'll put

41:11 Speaker 8: in for Jade.

41:13 Speaker 5: Yeah, I do think.

41:15 Speaker 4: Jay does win. I think, uh, I do think this

41:22 Speaker 4: is me just spitball and I have no uh a fit.

41:26 Speaker 4: I haven't read this online. I think Tiffany might be

41:30 Speaker 4: due for some time off because think about this, She's

41:33 Speaker 4: had a three hundred day championship ring. But she was

41:36 Speaker 4: pushing hard in NXT well before they brought her up,

41:40 Speaker 4: and she almost got kind of thrown right into the

41:43 Speaker 4: main event picture right after she was brought up. So that's,

41:50 Speaker 4: you know, that's.

41:51 Speaker 8: Just that flourished.

41:52 Speaker 4: She's been going hard for over two years, So maybe

41:57 Speaker 4: they take her off till Royal Rumble have her come

42:00 Speaker 4: back trying to give her a refresh a little bit

42:05 Speaker 4: and let her rest up, because I have read she

42:09 Speaker 4: does have some uh, she does have some minor injuries

42:14 Speaker 4: that are starting to mount top.

42:18 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, she's been running hard for a long time.

42:21 Speaker 6: I think she's actually better as a heel, though I

42:23 Speaker 6: think she's awkward as a baby face. I don't know

42:25 Speaker 6: what you guys think, but I don't. I don't understand

42:27 Speaker 6: Tiffany Stratton as a babyface.

42:28 Speaker 5: I really don't. It seems it really does.

42:32 Speaker 4: It seems forced.

42:33 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think she's a natural heel.

42:35 Speaker 8: I think it's I think that.

42:38 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I think the Tiffy Time thing is

42:41 Speaker 4: a heel thing.

42:42 Speaker 5: It is.

42:43 Speaker 6: It is like, I get why they wanted to turn

42:46 Speaker 6: her in a sense because she was getting babyface reactions

42:49 Speaker 6: because she's so incredible in the ring. But I think

42:51 Speaker 6: as a character, I think she's much more effective as

42:53 Speaker 6: a heel. I think they should just go back to

42:55 Speaker 6: letting her be a heel. And if she gets babyface

42:57 Speaker 6: reactions because she is so incredible in the ring, so

42:59 Speaker 6: be it. A lot of heels do, that's fine, But

43:03 Speaker 6: I think she's I think she's better as a heel.

43:06 Speaker 6: By the way, speaking of, I just want to pivot

43:08 Speaker 6: quickly because I really want to hear everyone's thoughts on this.

43:10 Speaker 6: And what Eric, you already know when I mentioned this name,

43:13 Speaker 6: you already know what I'm gonna say. Charles might not

43:16 Speaker 6: Dominic Mysterio when they finally pull the trigger on him.

43:20 Speaker 6: Is he not going to be one of the greatest

43:21 Speaker 6: baby faces of all time.

43:24 Speaker 5: When they do it? Do you think he already is? Yeah?

43:32 Speaker 8: I mean.

43:37 Speaker 7: What Charles?

43:39 Speaker 9: I mean he has a face only a mother could love,

43:42 Speaker 9: and haircut and mustache as well.

43:44 Speaker 5: Right, what do you think, Eric?

43:49 Speaker 4: Look? I think you there's always going to be a

43:55 Speaker 4: segment of the fans that will look at Dominic myster

43:58 Speaker 4: as a heel. Yeah, and God bless him for it,

44:03 Speaker 4: because look, Dominic, it could be that guy that when

44:08 Speaker 4: they turn in Babyface, he changes nothing about himself exactly.

44:12 Speaker 5: Yeah, And he won't need to.

44:14 Speaker 4: He changes absolutely nothing. He won't need to. He really

44:19 Speaker 4: is and I say this with the utmost reverence and caution,

44:25 Speaker 4: He really is the second incarnation of Eddie Guerrero. Eddie

44:32 Speaker 4: could lie, cheat and steal and the fans would love

44:36 Speaker 4: him if no matter what. And that's Dominic Mysterio. All

44:42 Speaker 4: these people in the IWC I see that are saying, oh, well,

44:47 Speaker 4: they're just trying to make him Eddie. They're just trying.

44:50 Speaker 4: They've done it, and it's brilliant.

44:52 Speaker 5: It is it is.

44:54 Speaker 4: I mean when he cheats, the crowd cheers, Yeah.

45:00 Speaker 6: Is the it's the Eddie gurero tapling. Yeah, because the

45:02 Speaker 6: le Jayton steal. That was a part of Eddie Guerrero's

45:04 Speaker 6: babyface gimmick and and it and it got over huge

45:08 Speaker 6: and Dominic is everything Dominic does, he does so well.

45:12 Speaker 6: I mean there's there's no there's no holes in anything

45:14 Speaker 6: he's He's just he's the perfect sports entertainer.

45:18 Speaker 5: I dare say.

45:19 Speaker 9: He had a great teacher and his dad, I mean,

45:21 Speaker 9: you gonna do You're not gonna You're not gonna spoil

45:24 Speaker 9: that talent.

45:25 Speaker 8: I mean, right, was gonna allow it.

45:26 Speaker 6: Yeah, but both his real dad and his fake dad,

45:29 Speaker 6: uh have you know taught him a lot.

45:33 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And even even when he does promotional interviews with

45:39 Speaker 1: radio stations and such, is in full character.

45:44 Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

45:45 Speaker 4: He like who goes on a radio station right now

45:50 Speaker 4: and says, oh, I guess I could face John Cena.

45:53 Speaker 4: I retire in but like you are all these guys

46:00 Speaker 4: talking on radio stations about what an honor it would

46:03 Speaker 4: be to face John Cena in this final run, and

46:07 Speaker 4: rightfully so. But then you have Dominic who's sorry, my

46:16 Speaker 4: voice is uh getting lost here? Yes, Dominic who Dominic

46:25 Speaker 4: who is just gets on there and just says, I

46:30 Speaker 4: suppose I could face him. I am the greatest center

46:32 Speaker 4: continent with champion ever. Yeah, just retire him early.

46:36 Speaker 5: And everything that he says is so perfect.

46:39 Speaker 4: Oh.

46:39 Speaker 6: I saw a clip of him saying something about, uh

46:43 Speaker 6: oh yeah, I hate seam Punk because.

46:44 Speaker 5: He's he's old.

46:45 Speaker 6: He's like sixty three or something, and when I was

46:49 Speaker 6: a kid he tortured me. I think he was like

46:51 Speaker 6: forty five at the time, and I just hate it's

46:54 Speaker 6: but with his delivery too, it's so funny, Like everything

46:57 Speaker 6: he says is just perfect.

46:59 Speaker 5: He understands his character and.

47:01 Speaker 6: Uh he's you know everybody talks about bron Breaker being

47:04 Speaker 6: the future. Yeah he's part of it, But so is

47:07 Speaker 6: Dominic Mysterio. I mean, he's just incredible. Everything he does.

47:13 Speaker 4: Well, let me go ahead, and is one of those

47:15 Speaker 4: guys that you can put him anywhere on the card

47:20 Speaker 4: and it's good. It's it has the potential to steal

47:25 Speaker 4: the show.

47:25 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, were we starting to say Charles.

47:29 Speaker 9: Well, I was just saying it was God. I didn't

47:30 Speaker 9: know if it was any more comments on Dominica except

47:33 Speaker 9: for his U you know, you know, porn actor futures

47:35 Speaker 9: for success.

47:37 Speaker 8: But I'm sorry if you had to bleep that out.

47:40 Speaker 5: No, no, but.

47:42 Speaker 8: I wanted to get everybody's picks on tonight. There's four

47:44 Speaker 8: main events.

47:45 Speaker 9: We already got the Punk News, so match, I want

47:47 Speaker 9: to get everybody's picks on the Tiffany and Jade.

47:49 Speaker 8: Do you think Jade takes you or do you think

47:50 Speaker 8: tif it's still Tiffy time.

47:51 Speaker 5: No, they'll leave it on. They'll leave it on Tiffany.

47:54 Speaker 5: I think.

47:56 Speaker 4: I think Jay gets it. I think they did. I

48:00 Speaker 4: think tonight because you've built up this heel turned so

48:03 Speaker 4: now it has to pay off.

48:05 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think it has to pay off yet, though,

48:07 Speaker 6: I think I think they can take a little time

48:09 Speaker 6: with it. But we can talk about the other matches too,

48:11 Speaker 6: But we just have to be mindful.

48:12 Speaker 5: We are starting to approach the top of the hour.

48:15 Speaker 6: But but but yeah, we can talk about the other

48:16 Speaker 6: matches too, just briefly.

48:19 Speaker 8: Jenny, what'd your pick, Tiffany or Ja tonight.

48:23 Speaker 7: Okay, I'm going with my am.

48:27 Speaker 9: Yeah, the Triple Threat, mystereo, Penta, Russev does mystereo.

48:33 Speaker 8: Does Dominic keep the title? And is uh all of

48:37 Speaker 8: his hair?

48:38 Speaker 5: Dominic keeps the title? He cheats to win?

48:40 Speaker 6: And uh, I I don't even care what they do

48:43 Speaker 6: with Russev. I love Pentav.

48:46 Speaker 7: I think Penta is you know, I can see him

48:48 Speaker 7: being an.

48:49 Speaker 6: Upset one kind of doesn't need the belt though. Pentas

48:51 Speaker 6: so incredible, another guy who is just incredible, and Russev

48:55 Speaker 6: is just boring.

48:55 Speaker 5: I don't they haven't done anything good with him.

48:59 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm surprised that they haven't.

49:01 Speaker 4: Got to go with dom I gotta go with my

49:03 Speaker 4: boy dirty dom Yeah. I think I'm cheats to win.

49:07 Speaker 4: I don't care how it happens. It's gonna be brilliant.

49:10 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I agree, I agree.

49:13 Speaker 9: I think I think Dominic with the Triple A belt,

49:15 Speaker 9: I think he's he'll still have a title to hold

49:18 Speaker 9: on to. I'm gonna give it to pent I think

49:20 Speaker 9: pent his time. Okay, Okay, And finally Cody Drew. With

49:24 Speaker 9: everything going on with the the the disqualification now not

49:29 Speaker 9: even a factor anymore to count out not a factor,

49:32 Speaker 9: and Cody obviously is wanting to do a sena with

49:37 Speaker 9: the title bashing up Drew Skull. Do we see Drew

49:42 Speaker 9: walking out or is Cody's holding on to it?

49:45 Speaker 5: I think they I think they leave it with Cody.

49:47 Speaker 5: Uh Drew.

49:48 Speaker 6: Drew losing gives him another thing to whine about, which

49:51 Speaker 6: is such a big part of his character, and he's

49:53 Speaker 6: hilarious doing it.

49:54 Speaker 5: I think they leave it on Cody. Yeah, you agree, Johnny.

49:59 Speaker 10: You but I would like to see him finally actually

50:02 Speaker 10: get to keep a belt for more.

50:04 Speaker 7: Than two minutes. Yeah, yeah, I think Cody's gonna get it.

50:07 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what do you guys think? Eric?

50:12 Speaker 4: You know, Charles, Charles really struck a chord with me earlier.

50:18 Speaker 4: They added this stipulation twenty four hours before the match,

50:22 Speaker 4: and I've been thinking about it. I I think Drew

50:26 Speaker 4: does something, gets under Cody's skin, and Cody breaks and

50:31 Speaker 4: gets disqualified Andrew becomes champion. That way, it wins.

50:37 Speaker 5: Yeah. You might be right, You might be right. And

50:39 Speaker 5: what you're gonna sick with Cody?

50:41 Speaker 8: I'm gonna stay with Cody, all right?

50:44 Speaker 5: Very good? Very good?

50:45 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, such a compelling argument, Charles, and now you're like,

50:49 Speaker 4: I'm going with Tody.

50:50 Speaker 6: That's good, it's good, that's right.

50:56 Speaker 5: That's right.

50:57 Speaker 4: Man, Charles is working me. I'm getting work.

51:02 Speaker 6: Yeah you are, Yeah, you are very good. Well, guys,

51:05 Speaker 6: we're approaching the top of the hour. We got to

51:07 Speaker 6: start to wrap up. But uh, Charles, h thank you.

51:10 Speaker 6: And of course, uh, you've got the you're so you're

51:13 Speaker 6: gonna be live streaming tonight. Where can people go to

51:15 Speaker 6: find that?

51:16 Speaker 1: So?

51:18 Speaker 9: Unlike you, Matt, I can live stream on Facebook, Yes,

51:24 Speaker 9: I know. I'll be on Facebook and YouTube just under

51:29 Speaker 9: the Charles Richardson show. That's where you'll be seeing it live.

51:33 Speaker 9: And we will probably start a few minutes before seven.

51:37 Speaker 9: And uh, you want to follow along obviously my stream,

51:40 Speaker 9: and of course it will be on Peacock very.

51:42 Speaker 6: Good, excellent, excellent. And of course Eric, you and I, uh,

51:46 Speaker 6: we're doing a tough Bumps tomorrow night.

51:47 Speaker 4: I presume, yes, absolutely. We got to cover one of

51:54 Speaker 4: the Halloween one of the most notorious Halloween habits. We

51:57 Speaker 4: just got to pick which one.

51:59 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll I'll let you pick.

52:00 Speaker 6: I put a pole up but but Facebook, But the

52:03 Speaker 6: thing is, so I put a pole up at the

52:05 Speaker 6: beginning of the week, like we talked about, and it

52:07 Speaker 6: was getting like no engagement. But now that I know

52:09 Speaker 6: that Facebook is blocking some of my stuff, I think

52:11 Speaker 6: that's probably why. So you can just just pick whichever

52:14 Speaker 6: one you want to do.

52:15 Speaker 4: We're going to cover the Chamber of Horrors man.

52:20 Speaker 5: Okay, that'll be fun.

52:21 Speaker 4: Chamber of Horrors that that will be fun.

52:24 Speaker 6: That will be fun. All right, we'll go with that.

52:26 Speaker 6: That sounds good, so take a keep an eye out

52:29 Speaker 6: for that. Of course you can watch that on the

52:30 Speaker 6: IBM Nation YouTube channel and it won't be streaming live

52:33 Speaker 6: on Facebook obviously. All right, very good, Well listen, Eric Pilcher,

52:37 Speaker 6: Charles Richardson, thank you both so much. This is fun.

52:39 Speaker 6: We should do this more often. Doesn't have to be here,

52:42 Speaker 6: of course, you know we can do.

52:43 Speaker 4: We should in Charles, you are wearing the very off

52:48 Speaker 4: jersey today.

52:50 Speaker 7: We can't see it.

52:51 Speaker 8: This this is the man Patreons jersey.

52:57 Speaker 7: Art man.

52:58 Speaker 9: Okay, okay, the new greatest quarterback of the New England Patriots,

53:04 Speaker 9: given about twenty years but still new greatest quarterback.

53:07 Speaker 7: Now we're hitting. We don't have a clip.

53:10 Speaker 5: I'll take your word for it.

53:12 Speaker 10: I have no idea I've.

53:16 Speaker 4: Actually Charles ordered this great may Rivals Jersey, so that's

53:21 Speaker 4: to be here this week.

53:23 Speaker 8: Awesome, all right, were it proudly?

53:25 Speaker 5: I don't even know that is okay, we.

53:28 Speaker 4: Go oh, I will definitely wear it proudly on the

53:32 Speaker 4: flip side.

53:33 Speaker 6: All right, well, very good, Charles, Eric, thank you both,

53:36 Speaker 6: so thank you so much. We love you guys. Thank

53:38 Speaker 6: you for joining us. And uh and we'll talk to

53:41 Speaker 6: you soon. Thanks guys, Thank you all right, bye bye,

53:45 Speaker 6: all right, that was bye bye bye.

53:47 Speaker 5: All right.

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