Gary Smith | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: I love that for a couple of different reasons, but

0:02 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that in a moment. That is Sign

0:04 Speaker 1: of the Times. Welcome everybody. We have entered our number

0:06 Speaker 1: two new marowdos of Matt Connorton unleashed and we are

0:10 Speaker 1: live from the studios of wm NH ninety five point

0:13 Speaker 1: three FM in glorious but very cold, but glorious Manchester,

0:17 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. Today is Saturday, January third, twenty twenty six.

0:21 Speaker 1: Happy New Year, everybody, our first show of the new year.

0:23 Speaker 1: Jenny is here, of course at the news table.

0:27 Speaker 2: I really like that song a lot.

0:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that good? I'm like over here, it's so good.

0:32 Speaker 1: And joining us in studio, Gary Smith is here. Hello, Gary, Hello,

0:36 Speaker 1: how are you guys? Gary Smith, as I like to say,

0:38 Speaker 1: the busiest musician I know anywhere. He's in two hundred

0:42 Speaker 1: and seventy four bands and there's something like that. Right,

0:45 Speaker 1: we're in double digit, definitely in double digit. Can you

0:49 Speaker 1: just pull that mic over a little. I just want

0:50 Speaker 1: to make sure it's right. Yeah, there we go, perfect,

0:52 Speaker 1: Thank you, so Sign of the Times. So I mentioned

0:55 Speaker 1: that that's special to me because so I that song

0:59 Speaker 1: has been played on the show before, but not that version.

1:02 Speaker 1: So I played the I played it. I've played it

1:05 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of times, not recently, but the Chemical

1:08 Speaker 1: Distance version of the song that I played bass on

1:11 Speaker 1: years ago seems like another lifetime in some ways. But

1:16 Speaker 1: but that is my favorite version, the one that that

1:19 Speaker 1: you've brought to us. That's amazing what you took and

1:22 Speaker 1: did with it. And of course our friend MHP Michael

1:27 Speaker 1: Helpley Pierce who of course I was in Chemical Distance

1:30 Speaker 1: with him along with Auto Kinsel, and that was always

1:35 Speaker 1: one of my favorites to play live because it's such

1:37 Speaker 1: a great track and Mike's rap on that whole thing

1:41 Speaker 1: is so good. It's so smooth. And I assume you

1:44 Speaker 1: didn't take the original vocal track that's he redid that, right, Yeah.

1:49 Speaker 3: At our engineers, just with kind of a backing track,

1:52 Speaker 3: and then he sent the raw vocals to me and

1:55 Speaker 3: then I just kind of did everything up in my

1:57 Speaker 3: bedroom and then I sent the stems back to Pete

1:59 Speaker 3: and we went and mixed it and made it sound

2:00 Speaker 3: good on all his his nice expensive equipment.

2:03 Speaker 2: Yeah.

2:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, So just kind of a little studio time sometime

2:06 Speaker 3: in my room and then just the mixing time, So

2:08 Speaker 3: it was really it was a fun way to do

2:10 Speaker 3: it because I had pretty much as much control. I

2:12 Speaker 3: knew what you want, he said that weird little breakdown section.

2:14 Speaker 1: I love that.

2:15 Speaker 3: He's like, just do whatever you want. So I did

2:16 Speaker 3: like a halftime guitar so good. Yeah, the whole thing

2:20 Speaker 3: is so good. I think it's the third version of

2:22 Speaker 3: that song, because I think it was originally a Litherman's song,

2:26 Speaker 3: a Litherman's load, the hip hop duo that Mike had,

2:30 Speaker 3: MHP had, and then and then he brought it to

2:32 Speaker 3: Chemical Chemical Distance and then and then brought it to.

2:35 Speaker 1: You to do that Like who's whose name is that officially? Under?

2:38 Speaker 2: Is that under? It will be.

2:39 Speaker 3: Released under Jam tomorrow, Okay, but it will be featuring

2:42 Speaker 3: Percussive Maintenance because that's my like producer name, so that yeah,

2:46 Speaker 3: so it'll be you'll be able to find it through

2:47 Speaker 3: my my streaming stuff, which is all under Percussive Maintenance. Okay, yeah,

2:52 Speaker 3: just because me and Pete kind of I did most

2:54 Speaker 3: of the product production. Pete did the mixing master, he

2:56 Speaker 3: did some little production stuff. So okay, but yeah, yeah,

3:00 Speaker 3: be uh it'll be under Jam tomorrow. We have three

3:03 Speaker 3: or four other songs that should be coming out this year.

3:05 Speaker 3: That one and two other songs are basically mastered, ready

3:08 Speaker 3: to go, okay, just waiting for some art and some

3:10 Speaker 3: other logistics to other Jam Tomorrow. So the Jam Tomorrow songs, Yeah,

3:13 Speaker 3: one with a guest. Actually probably three other yeah, three

3:17 Speaker 3: other Tomorrow songs. One with Michael Freeman who's in Free Will,

3:20 Speaker 3: which is a little group around here.

3:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's playing drums.

3:24 Speaker 3: Ones with Brian Murphy, who's my trumpet player, buddy who's

3:26 Speaker 3: been on some of my stuff, who's a Boston musician.

3:29 Speaker 2: He's amazing. He's playing trumpet on some stuff.

3:31 Speaker 3: So uh okay, yeah, we we actually added him on

3:34 Speaker 3: drums some stuff. So like he was, he was hanging

3:36 Speaker 3: out with me. So I'm like, okay, you're going on

3:37 Speaker 3: a bunch of Jam Tomorrow songs. But yeah, we have

3:39 Speaker 3: I think four songs that should be coming out. Oh wow,

3:41 Speaker 3: probably fairly soon. Oh fantastic? Are are there songs we

3:45 Speaker 3: would know from the show that that you guys have played.

3:47 Speaker 2: On the whole Wide World?

3:48 Speaker 3: The Rachel the Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much ready to go.

3:53 Speaker 3: White Whale, which I think we played here once. That's

3:57 Speaker 3: the one that me and Mike wrote when I was broken. Yes, yeah,

4:00 Speaker 3: that one's pretty much recorded. I played piano on that, okay,

4:03 Speaker 3: that's the one Mike Freeman plays drums on. And then uh,

4:07 Speaker 3: twenty two, we've done that before, okay, and we added

4:10 Speaker 3: some cool trumpet harmonies on that one, so that one's

4:12 Speaker 3: really unique sounding too. Okay, I think those are Yeah,

4:16 Speaker 3: those are the four I think that are pretty much ready.

4:18 Speaker 1: The ones that I have, because I definitely have recordings

4:20 Speaker 1: of at least a couple of those. Are those demos

4:23 Speaker 1: that we that.

4:23 Speaker 3: I he may have given you either like not fully

4:27 Speaker 3: mastered ones right right, yeah, or like like the song

4:31 Speaker 3: one of the songs I gave you here is the

4:33 Speaker 3: non fully ready to release version, okay, as the stems.

4:36 Speaker 3: He's going to do some mixing and mastering to that,

4:38 Speaker 3: but this is kind of the pre mix version, just

4:40 Speaker 3: to kind of tease it out there.

4:41 Speaker 2: That's that jazz one, okay, but.

4:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably what we did there. But yeah, now

4:45 Speaker 3: twenty two is much further along. You may have played

4:48 Speaker 3: close to the studio version of White Whale.

4:50 Speaker 2: That would probably.

4:50 Speaker 1: Probably okay, yeah, yeah. And then so you've been you've

4:54 Speaker 1: been very busy.

4:55 Speaker 2: You know.

4:56 Speaker 1: We always say you're you're the busiest musician I know.

4:58 Speaker 1: But also you've been and since the last time you

5:01 Speaker 1: were here, So you're now playing with Roots of Creation, right.

5:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, Roots of Creation and Grateful Dub. So that's that's huge.

5:07 Speaker 2: That's been a.

5:08 Speaker 3: Fun adventure for sure. Those guys are so fun, so

5:11 Speaker 3: fun to jam with, and it's a it's nice to

5:13 Speaker 3: kind of see the next level of like band leader

5:16 Speaker 3: and like how Brett runs the band is it's a

5:18 Speaker 3: it's a it's given me good ideas in terms of

5:20 Speaker 3: like how to operate my things because he's just so

5:22 Speaker 3: like good at controlling what's going on on stage, and

5:25 Speaker 3: especially in something like that where there's like a lot

5:27 Speaker 3: of improvisation. Our New Year's Eve show, we did two

5:31 Speaker 3: of the seven songs on our setlest he's like, let's

5:33 Speaker 3: do this instead, let's do this, and said so but

5:34 Speaker 3: and then it's like we'll hold accord. He's like, let's

5:36 Speaker 3: see how we can get to this next part. He's like, Okay,

5:38 Speaker 3: now go up a half step, now go before. So

5:40 Speaker 3: it's like kidding, It's really all a lot of improvisation, which,

5:44 Speaker 3: as a jazz nerd is is right up my alley.

5:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I know, it's it's been fun.

5:48 Speaker 3: It's met some crazy people and uh, they just released

5:52 Speaker 3: were Wolves of London for Halloween. I played based on that,

5:55 Speaker 3: and we have the Grateful Dub album is coming out.

5:58 Speaker 3: The second one is coming out very soon. Recorded some

6:00 Speaker 3: stuff on that, Okay, that's very exciting. A bunch of

6:03 Speaker 3: stuff in the theater or a bunch of stuff in

6:05 Speaker 3: the studio like Paul from Slightly Stupid on a bunch

6:08 Speaker 3: of stuff, a bunch of a bunch of cool people

6:10 Speaker 3: on you Love on some stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's uh,

6:14 Speaker 3: it's been so fun. And yeah we're doing a big

6:19 Speaker 3: Florida South Southern tour February in March. But yeah, I

6:23 Speaker 3: mean we are playing a couple of cool shows around here.

6:25 Speaker 3: February sixth and seventh. We're playing a Flying Monkey in

6:27 Speaker 3: Plymouth excellent. Then Wally's on February seventh. Oh, very good,

6:31 Speaker 3: both of those with Paul uh the organists from a

6:34 Speaker 3: Slightly Stupid opening for us.

6:36 Speaker 1: Okay, nice, It was definitely worth worth checking out.

6:38 Speaker 3: But yeah, I know, it's it's it's been it's been

6:40 Speaker 3: an awesome adventure and uh, all the guys at the

6:42 Speaker 3: band are so fun and so easy to play with.

6:44 Speaker 3: And yeah, obviously as a bass player, I care about

6:47 Speaker 3: the drummer, and the drummer is so easy to get along.

6:49 Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, that's good.

6:50 Speaker 2: After a few crucial like we're like locked in.

6:52 Speaker 1: It's good.

6:53 Speaker 2: Good.

6:54 Speaker 1: Now, how did that come about? Because you initially you

6:57 Speaker 1: were like a fill in right, Yeah exactly.

7:00 Speaker 3: I filled in actually with my engineer back in March

7:04 Speaker 3: at a at a show they had up in a

7:06 Speaker 3: sugar sugar bush or one of the yeah, one of

7:10 Speaker 3: the mountains up there, just sugar sugar loaf, sugar loaf, yeah, okay, yeah,

7:14 Speaker 3: And I just filled in with uh with Bread on bass,

7:16 Speaker 3: just for like a last minute show.

7:18 Speaker 2: Yeah.

7:18 Speaker 3: And then when they were looking for a bass player

7:20 Speaker 3: because their bass player lives in Florida and it was

7:22 Speaker 3: difficult for for that, he recommended me. He's like, oh,

7:26 Speaker 3: Gary does all this weird jazz fusee and stuff like that,

7:28 Speaker 3: I can just dial it back and do some dude yeff.

7:30 Speaker 3: And then once I did, like okay, yeah, this will work.

7:32 Speaker 3: So then yeah, yeah, we stubbed in for a few

7:34 Speaker 3: shows like up in Vermont, uh in New Jersey and

7:37 Speaker 3: then uh yeah, towards the end of last year kind

7:40 Speaker 3: of made it official, got some cool pictures, So yeah,

7:42 Speaker 3: I know, it's it's been. Uh, it's definitely been an

7:44 Speaker 3: experience and it's yeah, it's a lot of fun.

7:47 Speaker 2: It's uh.

7:47 Speaker 3: I ended up doing you know, probably Eve though I

7:49 Speaker 3: only joined really in September. I did like twelve or

7:51 Speaker 3: thirteen shows with him last year and it was really

7:53 Speaker 3: fun to kind of to lock in and kind of

7:56 Speaker 3: learn some new stuff. And obviously I'm a nerd. I

7:59 Speaker 3: show up with all the sheet music because I like

8:00 Speaker 3: transcribe everything. Yeah, yeah, like what are all these notes?

8:03 Speaker 3: I'm like, I write out all of them?

8:05 Speaker 1: Do no kidding?

8:06 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it helps me learn, Like like in school,

8:08 Speaker 3: taking notes help you learn, like that. I listened to it,

8:10 Speaker 3: I write it down, and then I like, locked in

8:12 Speaker 3: my brain is the picture of those that writing out

8:15 Speaker 3: those notes?

8:15 Speaker 1: That makes sense?

8:16 Speaker 2: Yeah?

8:17 Speaker 1: Interesting, It must be cool too to have something like

8:21 Speaker 1: that work out where because that probably wasn't something you

8:24 Speaker 1: thought was going to happen in twenty twenty five, right,

8:26 Speaker 1: that you'd end up playing with Roots of Creation and

8:29 Speaker 1: then and then become a member of the band.

8:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's definitely wasn't on my it wasn't on

8:34 Speaker 3: my guest list of what I thought it was gonna happen.

8:37 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I was.

8:38 Speaker 3: I was really pleasantly surprised. And yeah, I mean it's

8:41 Speaker 3: I love playing bass and playing bass with you know,

8:44 Speaker 3: a bunch of guys who just love the music like

8:46 Speaker 3: you can't you can't go wrong with that. And they've

8:48 Speaker 3: obviously been around for for so long, you know, over

8:50 Speaker 3: twenty years.

8:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, Breton Tal have been.

8:53 Speaker 3: Doing it, so it's uh, it's definitely, Uh, it's cool

8:56 Speaker 3: to step into something like that. I mean, obviously my

8:59 Speaker 3: other band's like Fox, Fox and Flamingos have been building

9:01 Speaker 3: so long, and like it gives me ideas with how

9:04 Speaker 3: they operate in.

9:04 Speaker 2: Terms of transferring.

9:06 Speaker 3: And yeah, we got a new piano player with Fox

9:08 Speaker 3: and Flamingos last year too, so yeah, he's a little

9:11 Speaker 3: he was. I met him through Kevin Haran, who I know.

9:14 Speaker 3: You know, we did we did that show at the

9:16 Speaker 3: Bank of Hampshire stage last year and I met his

9:19 Speaker 3: piano player who was in the Dave Matthews tribute band.

9:22 Speaker 3: And then our piano player was leaving because family stuff,

9:25 Speaker 3: so I'm like, hey, you should join us. So like

9:28 Speaker 3: he's like Dave Matthews tribute bands, like a national tribute band,

9:32 Speaker 3: and they're actually their managers, the same managers Roots of Creation,

9:35 Speaker 3: So like it's all like this weird thing. So yeah,

9:37 Speaker 3: now both of us are in and so like that's

9:39 Speaker 3: kind of bump Fox up a little bit in terms

9:41 Speaker 3: of his professionalism, like having day sheets, having stuff much

9:44 Speaker 3: more organized instead of just kind of flying by the

9:46 Speaker 3: seat of our pants. Sure, sure, so that's that's definitely

9:49 Speaker 3: helped Fox get a lot of cool and better opportunities.

9:51 Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic, great, great. I still love that song

9:55 Speaker 1: Don't Be a Stranger. Oh my god, that is such

9:57 Speaker 1: a great song. I love Fox on the Flamingos. Isn't

9:59 Speaker 1: how hard to juggle all this? I mean, you must be.

10:03 Speaker 1: You strike me as someone who must be very organized, right,

10:06 Speaker 1: because you've got so much going on, you have to

10:08 Speaker 1: be organized.

10:09 Speaker 3: It's in certain things. I'm very organized. It's organized chaos,

10:13 Speaker 3: like I know exactly where I need to be, where

10:15 Speaker 3: I should be, but like some things of my life

10:18 Speaker 3: are definitely not the most organized. But yeah, sure, I

10:21 Speaker 3: mean it's for when I I kind of just go

10:24 Speaker 3: down rabbit holes. Like I I know what I need

10:26 Speaker 3: to do and like, but yeah, I'm mostly organized. Yeah,

10:30 Speaker 3: as my ask my kids, they may give you a

10:32 Speaker 3: different answer, but I mean, obviously it helps. I try

10:37 Speaker 3: to kind of check off all the boxes. And then

10:40 Speaker 3: like even now with the root stuff, like I have

10:43 Speaker 3: for Fox, We've got a sub basis. So for those

10:45 Speaker 3: that new shows that I can't make it, oh, we

10:47 Speaker 3: have a basis who's a very good basis who can

10:49 Speaker 3: fill in for me as needed. Yeah, and pretty much,

10:52 Speaker 3: you know, obviously Jam Tomorrow can operate without me. Cosmic

10:54 Speaker 3: Boston can operate. They have separate basis, so most of

10:57 Speaker 3: this stuff can. I can wiggle it around needed. And

11:00 Speaker 3: then you know, even my solo shows, if I get

11:02 Speaker 3: a last minute tour thing, I can just plug in

11:04 Speaker 3: someone to one of my solo shows and most of

11:06 Speaker 3: the venues are cool with that.

11:07 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that's good, trust me. So yeah, that's really good.

11:10 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a mixture of things, but yeah, it's definitely. Uh,

11:13 Speaker 3: I look at my schedule many times.

11:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can imagine. And this is probably the

11:19 Speaker 1: busiest you've ever been, right, I mean, have you ever

11:21 Speaker 1: had a point where you were busier than you are recently.

11:23 Speaker 3: No, because I mean, I don't know if we ever

11:25 Speaker 3: talked about it too much. I took a long, long

11:27 Speaker 3: break from music, so like when I was in high school,

11:30 Speaker 3: I was doing a lot of jazz, probably playing thirty

11:32 Speaker 3: forty shows throughout high school. In the beginning of college.

11:35 Speaker 3: Then I mean, my ex wife got into having a kid,

11:39 Speaker 3: having a family, and I didn't play music for two

11:41 Speaker 3: thousand and three to twenty twenty pretty much.

11:43 Speaker 1: Really.

11:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I didn't have music out for seventeen years.

11:46 Speaker 1: That shocks me, Yeah, because I remember, I do recall

11:50 Speaker 1: because even on the show several times I do seem

11:52 Speaker 1: to recall you talking about a break, but I didn't

11:54 Speaker 1: realize it was that long. So seventeen years.

11:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, the last The first time I played out was

11:58 Speaker 3: during COVID. I played at six oh three Brewery with

12:02 Speaker 3: the old piano player and the drummer from Fox and

12:04 Speaker 3: the Flamagos. I got in with them, and that was

12:06 Speaker 3: like the first time being being and then uh, and

12:09 Speaker 3: then I started playing with Jam Tomorrow, and then Fox

12:11 Speaker 3: and Flamengos formed and then it's just been a whirl.

12:14 Speaker 3: And but yeah, like I was looking back twenty twenty three,

12:16 Speaker 3: I did like forty shows. Last year, I did one

12:19 Speaker 3: hundred twenty shows. Two years ago I did one hundred

12:21 Speaker 3: twenty shows, and then this year I did two hundred

12:23 Speaker 3: and ten shows. So yeah, I don't that trajectory isn't sustainable,

12:26 Speaker 3: but if I can stay around two hundred, I'll be happy.

12:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now during that break, did you did you still

12:34 Speaker 1: pick up the bass or other instruments.

12:37 Speaker 3: I played my guitar decent amount during then, but not,

12:39 Speaker 3: but it was like it was weekly. It wasn't like, okay,

12:42 Speaker 3: daily like, so you never completely disengaged, but I still

12:45 Speaker 3: had a guitar, but there would definitely be times where

12:47 Speaker 3: I would probably go.

12:48 Speaker 2: A month without playing it.

12:48 Speaker 3: No, yeah, I was doing I mean that was when

12:51 Speaker 3: I was super into car racing and oh yeah I was. Yeah,

12:54 Speaker 3: so that that was part of it. Two that that

12:56 Speaker 3: kind of took away. But yeah, I mean my ex

12:59 Speaker 3: wife didn't necessarily love the music side of things. So

13:02 Speaker 3: even a lot of times when I would go to

13:03 Speaker 3: like pick up the guitar, that's when you turn on

13:05 Speaker 3: the TV or something, I was like.

13:06 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I get it.

13:07 Speaker 1: So oh wow.

13:08 Speaker 3: So then I got divorced in twenty twenty, and that's

13:10 Speaker 3: kind of what's what sparked me. And actually MHP we

13:13 Speaker 3: had some jams with my sister used to date Hernesto

13:16 Speaker 3: before she passed, and so we would jam at Arnesto's

13:19 Speaker 3: like garage, and that's how I originally met MHP and

13:22 Speaker 3: that's how.

13:22 Speaker 2: That allay it all started. Okay, that was probably like

13:25 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen that we did that.

13:26 Speaker 3: Twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen we jam for the first time,

13:28 Speaker 3: but that was like my first time even playing with anyone.

13:30 Speaker 2: Wow for probably fourteen years. Yeah.

13:32 Speaker 1: Wow, it's just mind blowing that, you know, you had

13:35 Speaker 1: such a long break and now you're so busy. It's

13:38 Speaker 1: like a completely it's like such a total life shift

13:41 Speaker 1: in that way.

13:42 Speaker 2: It really is.

13:42 Speaker 3: I mean I wish I had been doing it the

13:44 Speaker 3: whole time, but also like I wouldn't be in the

13:46 Speaker 3: place because like obviously I was a car sales manager

13:49 Speaker 3: for a long time stuff like that, so I have

13:51 Speaker 3: a little bit of stuff aside. So when I kind

13:53 Speaker 3: of took the plunge, yeah, I had some safety net

13:55 Speaker 3: where if I was twenty and taking the plunge, it

13:57 Speaker 3: wouldn't have ever worked.

13:58 Speaker 1: True.

13:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of a blessing in disguise. And you know,

14:03 Speaker 3: I know a lot of I have a lot of

14:04 Speaker 3: friends who've been doing music their whole lives, and some

14:06 Speaker 3: of them more burnt out.

14:07 Speaker 2: Than others, you know.

14:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I've I'm definitely burnt out from being a

14:11 Speaker 3: car sales Right. This is like I still don't I

14:14 Speaker 3: tell people I don't work, like I just play music

14:16 Speaker 3: all year, Like yeah, it's not like I need a

14:18 Speaker 3: vacation like.

14:19 Speaker 2: Right, playing music.

14:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's true. So it's you're doing what

14:23 Speaker 1: you love.

14:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah.

14:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what my parents when they were my mom,

14:27 Speaker 3: when she was like forty five fifty, they got a

14:30 Speaker 3: they started a music store and wallis so like that

14:33 Speaker 3: was kind of there chasing their dream, leave the corporate

14:35 Speaker 3: world and start a music store. So she would be

14:37 Speaker 3: she would be happy that I was doing what I'm

14:39 Speaker 3: what I'm doing.

14:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. If you're just joining us,

14:42 Speaker 1: Gary Smith is here with us, And should we play

14:44 Speaker 1: another track? You sent us a bunch of new stuff.

14:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's uh, let's do the Heist tune. That'll

14:51 Speaker 3: uh okay, this is called listen here. Heist is a

14:54 Speaker 3: project I'm in We play every first Wednesday of the

14:57 Speaker 3: month at Hermano's Up and Conquered. Oh, okay residency there,

15:01 Speaker 3: Uh play it. Panucci is a bunch two. They have

15:04 Speaker 3: a jazzy and kind of a rock side. I tend

15:06 Speaker 3: to stay on the jazz side because the rock side

15:09 Speaker 3: is usually on Saturdays when I already have gigs. But yeah, no,

15:11 Speaker 3: they're they're cool. They're under heyst improvised music on Facebook.

15:14 Speaker 2: Yeah. Curtis Arnett, Curtis Martin. What's his Aaron? Who does

15:21 Speaker 2: the kids the kids concerts? Aaron?

15:25 Speaker 3: Oh, I can't think, but yeah, he's in it. Took

15:29 Speaker 3: Randy Honeyman a bunch of people in it, so it's

15:32 Speaker 3: it's a cool Eric Billadoh, it's a cool little combination.

15:34 Speaker 2: But yeah.

15:34 Speaker 3: This is when we recorded actually in basement and Conquered.

15:37 Speaker 3: This is with Randy, Curtis Arnett on sacks, Curtis Martin

15:42 Speaker 3: on drums, and me on bass and guitar.

15:43 Speaker 1: Okay, very good, very good?

15:45 Speaker 2: All right?

15:45 Speaker 1: So this is Heist.

15:47 Speaker 3: This is Heist and the what's the track call? Uh

15:50 Speaker 3: listen listen here? Yeah, let me just make sure.

15:54 Speaker 1: Yeah listen here, listen here by high Star. I checked

15:57 Speaker 1: this out.

16:16 Speaker 4: Short as the th the thirtle Bird, the b As

16:53 Speaker 4: a Bad Turn Turn, Time of n Look at that

18:33 Speaker 4: noble record, recurscurs am.

21:01 Speaker 2: I love that that is Heists.

21:05 Speaker 1: What's the track again? Listen here here that Uh that

21:09 Speaker 1: guitar solo. It's it's like it's telling a story, you

21:13 Speaker 1: know what I mean?

21:13 Speaker 2: Thank you? That's the goal?

21:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I love that. I love that very very cool.

21:18 Speaker 1: Is that I haven't heard you mentioned Heist before? Is

21:21 Speaker 1: that a new project? You're newer for you?

21:23 Speaker 2: It's somewhat newer. I kind of just can't think.

21:26 Speaker 3: I sat him with them at Hermanos just to start

21:28 Speaker 3: out because they needed someone to do some jazzy stuff.

21:31 Speaker 3: And then yeah, then Curtis is a bartender at Prevate Friends,

21:37 Speaker 3: so we've sat him with sitting with me at Feathered Friends,

21:39 Speaker 3: and then yeah, we just kind of it.

21:41 Speaker 2: All worked out.

21:42 Speaker 3: Curtis Martin the drummer from this and sid in with

21:44 Speaker 3: Cinnamon Jazz Trio, one of my other jazz group too.

21:47 Speaker 2: Okay, so it's a yeah, it's fun. We're all, we're all.

21:50 Speaker 2: We all just shared it. Jazz is fun like that.

21:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's Uh, I've never played jazz music.

22:00 Speaker 1: I've only been in rock bands and stuff like that,

22:02 Speaker 1: and a couple of things that were a little a

22:04 Speaker 1: little different. But it must be kind of I imagine

22:08 Speaker 1: it to be liberating to have that kind of freedom

22:10 Speaker 1: with a project like that, where where it can you

22:12 Speaker 1: can play in different configurations and you know, and do

22:17 Speaker 1: a lot of improv is improvising and and all that.

22:20 Speaker 3: That must be really cool. No, it's definitely nice. I mean,

22:23 Speaker 3: I ran jazz dams up at PCL for the last

22:26 Speaker 3: couple of years. Okay, just people come in if you

22:29 Speaker 3: kind of has some semblance that had to play jazz like.

22:31 Speaker 3: It's so even though people think it's so like nonstructured

22:34 Speaker 3: and it's so chaotic, like, there is a lot of

22:35 Speaker 3: structure to it.

22:36 Speaker 2: So way you understand the structure, it's easy to just

22:38 Speaker 2: kind of PLoP in.

22:39 Speaker 3: Like Cinnamon Giastrio, we've played a bunch together the last

22:43 Speaker 3: song or one of those songs that she plays flute

22:46 Speaker 3: in or piano player on that, but we've never had

22:48 Speaker 3: a rehearsal because we just get up together and we're

22:50 Speaker 3: all tight. We all know how each other works at

22:53 Speaker 3: this point, so we can just play and put on

22:54 Speaker 3: an amazing show just without.

22:56 Speaker 2: We know how to interact with each other.

22:58 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's fantastic. Yeah, it's very fun if you're

23:01 Speaker 1: just joining us. Gary Smith is here with us and

23:04 Speaker 1: sharing some some new music and uh so, what what's

23:10 Speaker 1: kind of the thing that takes up is Roots of Creation?

23:12 Speaker 1: Does that take up the most of your time in

23:14 Speaker 1: terms of because we were talking earlier about how you

23:16 Speaker 1: you don't have to be very organized with your calendar.

23:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they probably. I mean in terms of

23:22 Speaker 3: actual work, solo solo shows take up the most time.

23:25 Speaker 3: Like last year I did seventy solo shows and like

23:27 Speaker 3: twenty two jams Iran, so the majority of the shows

23:31 Speaker 3: are that. But yeah, I mean in terms of just overall,

23:35 Speaker 3: especially this year, I'll definitely be playing the most non

23:38 Speaker 3: solo shows with Roots, Okay, and then obviously like traveling

23:42 Speaker 3: and Tory and stuff that that you have travel days

23:45 Speaker 3: and stuff like that, so.

23:46 Speaker 2: Those will get those will get gobbled up.

23:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I mean beyond that, I mean I

23:50 Speaker 3: did play the most shows with Fox last year. In

23:53 Speaker 3: terms of band, I mean with me and Mazie again,

23:57 Speaker 3: more projects. Me and maze split off and we do

23:59 Speaker 3: vaudeville Vixen, which me and Mayzy just doing jazzy stuff

24:02 Speaker 3: and some Fox.

24:03 Speaker 2: Songs in like kind of a duo thing with my Looper.

24:06 Speaker 2: So oh cool.

24:08 Speaker 3: So we did probably thirteen shows like that last year

24:11 Speaker 3: then on the top of the thirty Flamingo shows, so wow.

24:15 Speaker 2: Yeah.

24:15 Speaker 3: So, I mean me and Maizie are probably the most

24:17 Speaker 3: busy together or being Bob because me and Bob play

24:19 Speaker 3: together a bunch with Me and Bob are actually playing

24:21 Speaker 3: tonight with RGB trio at Brickhouse in Milford. Oh nice,

24:26 Speaker 3: and we have Amanda van Tyne, this lead singer from Cosmic.

24:29 Speaker 3: She's going to come in and join us for a

24:31 Speaker 3: lot of the sets, so it's going to be.

24:32 Speaker 2: It's excellent party.

24:33 Speaker 1: Excellent.

24:34 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, though they all.

24:36 Speaker 3: Take some amount of time, and even like Jam Tomorrow

24:40 Speaker 3: last year I didn't get play with them as much,

24:42 Speaker 3: but we did a lot of stuff in the studio.

24:43 Speaker 3: So I did more stuff in the studio with them

24:45 Speaker 3: last year than really probably anyone except for Rooster Creation.

24:48 Speaker 3: So so yeah, I mean, it's just where they're so

24:53 Speaker 3: good to operate among themselves and even some places they

24:55 Speaker 3: like we don't have space for a trio. We just

24:57 Speaker 3: need to do a like play at eat whatever in

25:00 Speaker 3: Bedford and they just want to duoh. So I'm like, okay,

25:02 Speaker 3: that's fine. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean it's I

25:05 Speaker 3: gotta juggle.

25:06 Speaker 2: But I keep busy.

25:07 Speaker 3: I'm always adding things. Uh yeah, I'm in a project

25:10 Speaker 3: with Scott Soulski now, who's a seven string guitar, So

25:13 Speaker 3: I play eighth string guitar.

25:14 Speaker 2: He plays seven ring. And then Mike Wall she was

25:16 Speaker 2: an amazing drummer like me, in seventy three different bands.

25:18 Speaker 2: He played drums.

25:20 Speaker 3: We're playing at a big bear lodge Andre's Art Institute,

25:23 Speaker 3: which is gonna be a cool show. So yeah, but yeah,

25:26 Speaker 3: like he was someone I met literally last year and

25:28 Speaker 3: we've become friends and started playing with and recording a

25:30 Speaker 3: bunch and he was in Foresight Funk when they when

25:33 Speaker 3: that existed, in a bunch of other cool stuff.

25:35 Speaker 1: But I think, didn't you bring the eighth string here once?

25:38 Speaker 2: Yeah?

25:38 Speaker 3: I've brought it here a few times. Yeah, yeah, I

25:40 Speaker 3: usually bring the nylon string eighth string, but I most

25:42 Speaker 3: of the time I'm playing an electric eight string when

25:44 Speaker 3: I'm out out about.

25:45 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, because I remember you, Yeah, that's right,

25:47 Speaker 1: I remember you. Playing the eighth string here with Jam Tomorrow.

25:49 Speaker 2: Yep.

25:50 Speaker 1: And I think I had comment I think I had

25:52 Speaker 1: said to you that day on the show that it

25:55 Speaker 1: was fascinating to me. I was like watching you the

25:57 Speaker 1: whole time because it's like you're it's it's like a

26:00 Speaker 1: bass and a guitar having a conversation exactly.

26:04 Speaker 2: Yep.

26:04 Speaker 1: It was so fascinating to me to me to watch

26:06 Speaker 1: you and listen to you, you know, kind of go

26:08 Speaker 1: back and forth between you know, it's just really really

26:10 Speaker 1: interesting because I've never seen I don't know if i'd

26:13 Speaker 1: ever even seen an eight string, let alone seen an

26:16 Speaker 1: eight string up close like that, you know what I mean,

26:19 Speaker 1: And to just watch you play it, it was fascinating

26:21 Speaker 1: to me.

26:21 Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, I know.

26:22 Speaker 3: I mean I try to kind of get the Charlie

26:25 Speaker 3: Hunter like pianist approach where you're kind of being like

26:28 Speaker 3: a pianist and combining it too as much as possible.

26:30 Speaker 3: But it's yeah, it's definitely a different world than piano.

26:32 Speaker 3: But uh yeah, I mean it's it gives me some

26:35 Speaker 3: extra flexibility and like, yeah, tonight with O RGB, it's

26:38 Speaker 3: just me and Bob. Bob plays guitar, I play the

26:39 Speaker 3: eighth string. Yeah, so we're just going back and forth.

26:42 Speaker 3: I'm playing bass guitar. Sometimes he's singing, but he has

26:45 Speaker 3: like a bass patch on his thing, so he'll play

26:46 Speaker 3: bay well bass while I play solo.

26:48 Speaker 2: And I've been teaching.

26:49 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so it's a it throws people for a

26:51 Speaker 3: loop because there's always bass going on.

26:55 Speaker 2: Right right.

26:57 Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. Well why do we play another?

26:59 Speaker 2: Uh oh yeah, we have time.

27:01 Speaker 1: Let's uh play day Luge.

27:02 Speaker 2: That's a quick one, okay, and uh tell us about this.

27:05 Speaker 3: This is I played in my buddy's wedding in October

27:09 Speaker 3: and I wanted to just fill out the procession with

27:13 Speaker 3: some songs that I had created. So I just randomly

27:15 Speaker 3: wrote a uh classicalish song and so I recorded it.

27:19 Speaker 3: I thought it came out cool. Put a little rain

27:21 Speaker 3: stick track behind it to make it kind of like

27:23 Speaker 3: vibe like that, and yeah that's what this is.

27:25 Speaker 2: But it's a cool, cool song.

27:26 Speaker 1: So this one's all you.

27:27 Speaker 2: This is all original young guitar.

27:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, nice, nice, all right, this is called de luge.

29:51 Speaker 2: Ah. That is so pretty thank you. I really like that.

29:54 Speaker 2: I really like that.

29:54 Speaker 1: If you're just joining us. Gary Smith is here with

29:56 Speaker 1: us in studio and when can you when you record

30:01 Speaker 1: something like that? I mean, is are you improvising or

30:06 Speaker 1: are do you actually sit down and write that ahead

30:10 Speaker 1: of time? Or how does that work?

30:11 Speaker 3: So it starts off with me kind of just improvising,

30:14 Speaker 3: and then I do write it down for those types

30:16 Speaker 3: of things, So like for that, I will improvise to

30:20 Speaker 3: kind of figure out the parts, and then I'll put

30:22 Speaker 3: it into my use music score for sheet music and

30:25 Speaker 3: I'll kind of put it in there, and then I then,

30:29 Speaker 3: even though I can read music, then I look through

30:31 Speaker 3: I convert it to tab so I can see if

30:33 Speaker 3: there's a better way to do any fingering and interested

30:35 Speaker 3: in doing something that could be more like then once

30:39 Speaker 3: you see it in the tab, like you're like, oh,

30:40 Speaker 3: why would I go from here to hear?

30:42 Speaker 2: Because that's how I had it in my brain. But yeah,

30:44 Speaker 2: I could just do this to this and it's so

30:46 Speaker 2: much easier.

30:46 Speaker 3: So even though I read sheet music, but a lot

30:50 Speaker 3: of times will convert it to tab just to kind

30:52 Speaker 3: of make sure that the fingering is as efficient as possible.

30:56 Speaker 1: That is that's very interesting to me. I've never heard

30:58 Speaker 1: anyone say that before, but that makes sense logically, yeah,

31:01 Speaker 1: you know, because most people, I think most guitar players

31:03 Speaker 1: are and bass players too, think of tablature as you know,

31:06 Speaker 1: if you can't really read music, or if you don't

31:07 Speaker 1: want to bother with it, you just look at the

31:09 Speaker 1: tablature and it's you know, that's what I would do.

31:11 Speaker 1: I never really learned to read music, so that's what

31:13 Speaker 1: I would.

31:13 Speaker 2: Be, for example, to reading tab Yeah.

31:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, but but what you just explained makes sense. You know,

31:19 Speaker 1: the tab is going to show you a more efficient

31:21 Speaker 1: way to do the same thing. And obviously, I mean

31:24 Speaker 1: that's one of the first things I learned when I

31:25 Speaker 1: took guitar lessons is you know, you want to be

31:27 Speaker 1: efficient with everything you do because that way you can

31:28 Speaker 1: do more. So that, yeah, that makes total sense. That's

31:31 Speaker 1: that's really interesting. Does it Does it ever change? Like

31:36 Speaker 1: so obviously when you when you look at the tablature,

31:41 Speaker 1: it's going to show you a more efficient way. Do

31:42 Speaker 1: you ever end up changing anything at that point?

31:44 Speaker 3: Or Yeah, I've definitely changed some things because like once

31:47 Speaker 3: I put it to that, I'm like, why would I

31:48 Speaker 3: go from here to here? And then I'll just I

31:50 Speaker 3: won't change the notes per se, but just where I'm

31:52 Speaker 3: putting them. And so if if you know I was

31:54 Speaker 3: on the first threat, I might go to the sixth

31:56 Speaker 3: threat to make it more efficient coming from the fourth

31:59 Speaker 3: threat instead of going down to the first, go up

32:00 Speaker 3: to the sixth or.

32:01 Speaker 2: Something like that.

32:01 Speaker 3: So I do I do change kind of how I

32:03 Speaker 3: play once I do that, and then like once I

32:06 Speaker 3: do the final recording, I've kind of already figured out

32:08 Speaker 3: all that aspect of it. So okay, like that is

32:12 Speaker 3: kind of the most efficient way that I could have

32:14 Speaker 3: played that song. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I know that's

32:16 Speaker 3: that's kind of how on songs like that. Again, all

32:19 Speaker 3: the songs are a little different. There are definitely ones

32:21 Speaker 3: that are more improvisatory. But though that's kind of more

32:25 Speaker 3: of like a not a classical guitar song, but kind

32:28 Speaker 3: of a take on the type of classical Yeah.

32:31 Speaker 1: No, it's really nice. It's really nice. And when you

32:34 Speaker 1: write something like that too, I mean, does the idea

32:37 Speaker 1: does that melody kind of come to you first? Or

32:41 Speaker 1: do you sit down and you say I want to

32:43 Speaker 1: write something like this.

32:45 Speaker 3: Most of the time, it's usually me just sitting there

32:47 Speaker 3: with my guitar, even sometimes with my brain like half

32:50 Speaker 3: shut off, like watching something or listening to something else

32:54 Speaker 3: and then I'll just say, oh, I like that, and

32:55 Speaker 3: then I record it and then I kind of just

32:57 Speaker 3: branch upon that.

32:58 Speaker 4: Ye.

32:59 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean usually the melody does come, but

33:02 Speaker 3: a lot of times I'll have the chord first and

33:05 Speaker 3: then I'll build the melody around the chord progression that

33:09 Speaker 3: that tends to be the way the way that it works.

33:11 Speaker 3: But again, everything that the melody and that like that

33:15 Speaker 3: kind of came really quick, just with some like things

33:18 Speaker 3: I was working on in terms of studying like harmonic

33:23 Speaker 3: without getting to like Barry Harris things. Yeah, and then

33:26 Speaker 3: uh it, I'm like, wow, this is a cool way

33:28 Speaker 3: to do this. And so that's how the melody came.

33:29 Speaker 3: And even though it's not like a jazz song, like

33:32 Speaker 3: I took jazz harmony ideas to kind of create it.

33:35 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I mean every every song is different.

33:39 Speaker 3: I I try and I try and do I try

33:43 Speaker 3: and keep it as efficient as possible in songwriting because

33:46 Speaker 3: like a lot of times when I'm producing beats, I

33:48 Speaker 3: would like produce, then i'd mix and I produced and

33:50 Speaker 3: a mix and now I try and just produce. Once

33:53 Speaker 3: I get like the song where I want it to be.

33:55 Speaker 3: Then I do the mix thing so that I'm not

33:56 Speaker 3: bouncing back forward. Say this is it, it's done, don't

33:59 Speaker 3: don't mess with it after that, right right?

34:02 Speaker 1: But yeah, what do you what do you play for instruments?

34:04 Speaker 1: Obviously you play guitar and bass. What we else do

34:06 Speaker 1: you play?

34:07 Speaker 3: I mean I play enough piano. I wouldn't say like

34:10 Speaker 3: I'm not like Caleb in terms of playing piano, but

34:12 Speaker 3: I can play piano. I mean like most stringed instruments,

34:16 Speaker 3: I can. I can futs around on on mandolin. I

34:19 Speaker 3: have a tenor guitar that I sometimes play, which is

34:21 Speaker 3: tune like a violin.

34:23 Speaker 2: But really it's mostly that.

34:24 Speaker 3: I mean, I I messed with drum machines my whole life,

34:27 Speaker 3: so like, yeah, play I have an Akai that I

34:29 Speaker 3: can play drums on, but now I have most of

34:30 Speaker 3: the stuff.

34:31 Speaker 2: I just you know, I'm doing stuff through able to

34:33 Speaker 2: any But yeah, I mean that's really it.

34:36 Speaker 3: I mean again, I'm a I'm a music theory nerd,

34:39 Speaker 3: So yeah, theory has been one thing that I've always

34:41 Speaker 3: studied a lot on and ye never stop learning and

34:45 Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean really I just try and be

34:47 Speaker 3: as good as at those instruments as I can do

34:51 Speaker 3: you teach? Oh yeah, yeah, I teach uh I I

34:55 Speaker 3: have one student this year who doesn't play out the

34:57 Speaker 3: majority of the people I teach are actually already gigging musicians.

35:01 Speaker 3: So like people I'm going to talk about, but there's

35:05 Speaker 3: people who are very regular gigging around here that'll come

35:08 Speaker 3: for whether it's a technology lesson, some theory lessons. There's

35:12 Speaker 3: someone who's you know, who's a very well known trio

35:17 Speaker 3: who doesn't have ale guitars, so she wants to kind

35:19 Speaker 3: of amplify her legal guitar playing, so stuff like that.

35:22 Speaker 3: Or like someone who plays a lot of solo shows

35:24 Speaker 3: and their arms hurt, they want to get used to

35:26 Speaker 3: how to use a looper R. I can like show

35:29 Speaker 3: the tricks and the of the trade. So and that's

35:32 Speaker 3: really I don't I grew up giving lessons at my

35:35 Speaker 3: parents' music stop, so I don't want to be like

35:37 Speaker 3: that makes sense teaching you know, C chords and G

35:39 Speaker 3: chords right when there's other things I could be doing.

35:42 Speaker 2: Right, there's definitely a value in that. I don't want

35:43 Speaker 2: to take away from that.

35:44 Speaker 3: Everyone should pick up an instrument, learn it, but abs

35:47 Speaker 3: with my time, Like I have a friend from high school.

35:49 Speaker 2: I've known forever who I teach.

35:50 Speaker 3: He's an intermediate, doesn't really play out, but I've I

35:53 Speaker 3: got him to come out to an open mic at least.

35:55 Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

35:56 Speaker 3: Most of the people are playing in bands and I

35:58 Speaker 3: just kind of want to expand. And then I mean,

36:01 Speaker 3: like even my friends, I like teaching them stuff like

36:03 Speaker 3: like Nick Burns from Cosmic Blossoms, Like his mind's like

36:06 Speaker 3: a sponge. So when I come up with some new

36:08 Speaker 3: idea or I like have a breakthrough harmonically, I'll send

36:11 Speaker 3: it him and we'll just nerd.

36:13 Speaker 2: Out about it for a little bit. So that's great.

36:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's half the fun too, because especially him,

36:18 Speaker 3: like I give him some harmonic idea and he'll have

36:20 Speaker 3: a song the next day.

36:21 Speaker 2: That's that's amazing. Oh yeah, he's great like that.

36:24 Speaker 1: Oh excellent, excellent. Well we are. Yeah, we're approaching the

36:29 Speaker 1: top of the hour, so we do have one more

36:31 Speaker 1: track we're gonna play to finish out. But before we

36:33 Speaker 1: do that, where where should people go online to keep

36:36 Speaker 1: up with everything that you're doing.

36:38 Speaker 3: My Facebook stays pretty active. My Facebook is just Gary Smith. Surprisingly,

36:42 Speaker 3: if you just google Gary Smith Facebook, I'm like the

36:45 Speaker 3: first page or two. But I do also have a

36:48 Speaker 3: website g smith music dot com that has all my projects,

36:52 Speaker 3: has a bunch of press, has a bunch of ways

36:55 Speaker 3: to contact and book.

36:56 Speaker 2: Any of my bands. Yep. And then I do have

36:59 Speaker 2: a few quick little plugs.

37:01 Speaker 3: Yeah mean by that you also can listen to all

37:03 Speaker 3: my music under percussive maintenance. That's what I released all

37:05 Speaker 3: my music under I released. I was on twenty four

37:08 Speaker 3: different tracks last year, including Fox and Flamingo's Roots Creation,

37:13 Speaker 3: Costic Blossom stuff.

37:15 Speaker 1: Yeah.

37:16 Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm playing a brick house tonight next

37:17 Speaker 3: cool shows actually with Caleb who was just here.

37:20 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, playing at the Tupelo.

37:21 Speaker 3: With Brad Dubay's blues group because Max Chase, our piano player,

37:25 Speaker 3: can't get it and Caleb usually plays bass, so I'm

37:27 Speaker 3: playing bass with them.

37:28 Speaker 1: Excellent.

37:29 Speaker 3: And then like I said, Cosmic Fox and Flamingos with

37:31 Speaker 3: Phoenix Syndicate, which is a cool funk show that's up

37:34 Speaker 3: at the Bank New Hampshire Stage and conquered on January

37:36 Speaker 3: twenty third. That's going to be a serious, serious fun show.

37:39 Speaker 3: Phoenix Syndicate used to be for side funks, so a

37:42 Speaker 3: bunch of funk people, okay, And then like said Flying

37:45 Speaker 3: Monkey and Wally's Roots of Creation speaking of piggybacking on

37:50 Speaker 3: them with the fire for the Vine Street thing, I

37:52 Speaker 3: am running at PCL on February fifteenth, a fundraiser for

37:56 Speaker 3: the Vine Street calling me Vine Street Vibes.

37:58 Speaker 2: Oh cool.

37:58 Speaker 3: Both of those guys will be Nickleby. There are some

38:01 Speaker 3: other people, so it'll be donations. Everything's going to those

38:04 Speaker 3: guys obviously excellent. And then the only other ticketed things

38:07 Speaker 3: I have May ninth, Cosmic Blossom is playing at the

38:11 Speaker 3: Andre's Art Institute, Big Bear and Brookline which they redd

38:14 Speaker 3: their sound.

38:15 Speaker 2: That's a real venue.

38:16 Speaker 3: And then me with Scott Solski called seven eight is

38:19 Speaker 3: playing there with Sad Bastard Loose Standards. That's the band

38:26 Speaker 3: they they do like jazzy covers of stuff. That's Mike

38:30 Speaker 3: Effenberger and Chris Claxton to like two well known jazz

38:34 Speaker 3: jazz nerds.

38:34 Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, so those are the cool things coming out? Yeah.

38:37 Speaker 2: G Smith Music Percussive Maintenance and Gary Smith on Facebook outstanding.

38:41 Speaker 1: And what should we know about this so pedal boat

38:43 Speaker 1: is that the pedal pedal bike is the name pedal bike.

38:46 Speaker 3: This is another original. I wrote this one and I

38:49 Speaker 3: played it with my Cinnamon Jazz trio, which is Me,

38:52 Speaker 3: Cinnamon and Joe Virga. But me and Scott Solski and

38:56 Speaker 3: Mike Walts are also in a jazz trio, so we

38:58 Speaker 3: combined forces. So we have Cinnamon on flute, Joe on piano,

39:04 Speaker 3: Me and Scott going back and forth between seven and

39:06 Speaker 3: eight string bass and guitar or seven e string guitar,

39:08 Speaker 3: and then Mike Walsh on drums. Okay, and yeah, it's

39:11 Speaker 3: just an original. We have three songs like this that

39:13 Speaker 3: are coming out this year. We recorded them in Scott's

39:17 Speaker 3: garage and conquered and yeah, it's so it was.

39:19 Speaker 2: It was a fun thing. These guys are so fun

39:21 Speaker 2: to play with.

39:21 Speaker 1: Oh fantastic, Gary Smith, Thank you so much. Always wonderful

39:24 Speaker 1: to see you and great to see you. Great to

39:27 Speaker 1: see your doing great stuff and as all and keeping

39:29 Speaker 1: very very busy as always. So I think you're probably

39:31 Speaker 1: an inspiration to a lot of musicians who you know,

39:33 Speaker 1: want to really get out there and and you know,

39:35 Speaker 1: just do a lot, you know, and and.

39:38 Speaker 3: That's what that's what they just get out there, get

39:40 Speaker 3: out there, talk to people and like I've had people

39:42 Speaker 3: say basically that all the gigs we're doing is and

39:44 Speaker 3: like that's what I want more music in the world.

39:47 Speaker 2: Is nothing wrong with that? Well said, well said, not

39:50 Speaker 2: a competition.

39:51 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, all right, thank you Gary.

39:54 Speaker 2: And this is pedal bike