Jersey Calling talks about "Working Class Punk" | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk over the end there. I love that. I love that so much.

0:03 Speaker 2: That is working Class Punk and the band is Jersey Calling, and that was released officially on Labor Day, very very appropriate, and we played.

0:12 Speaker 1: It on the show.

0:13 Speaker 2: I think we might have been the first American radio station to play it. But let's see here, so we've got I believe we have Josh and Victoria with us via Microsoft Teams.

0:20 Speaker 1: Hello, Hi hear us? Yes, yes, can you hear me? Okay? Yes, awesome, perfect, welcome.

0:27 Speaker 2: It's wonderful to It's wonderful to have you on again. Of course you're with us. I think it was two or three months ago when you were in the area. But then you release a song and Jenny and I were like, well, we gotta have them on to talk about this because this is this is so good, you know, and we're fans anyway, but I love that song. I think it's very relatable. I think it's extraordinarily appropriate that you released it for Labor Day. Obviously, working Class Punk, the newest single from a Jersey Calling.

0:54 Speaker 2: So very excited to have you both on the show today. And we should tell we should tell our listeners so you can uh can each of you explain your roles in the band, what you do in the band for people who might not be familiar or perhaps didn't hear our previous conversation when you were on the show.

1:11 Speaker 3: All Right, we'll go best foot forward, go for it.

1:14 Speaker 4: So I'm Victoria and I sing and helping recent stuff and the help do stuff. Yeah, okay, that's the best one that.

1:27 Speaker 3: I'm Josh.

1:28 Speaker 5: I'm also a co lead singer, and I played rhythm guitar, and uh, I write some songs.

1:34 Speaker 2: To absolutely no great stuff. Uh So can you tell us about the inspiration? I mean, you know, probably kind of obvious, but can you tell us about the inspiration behind the song working class Punk and why you decided to write that? And it's such a great track by the way, I mean, you know, even if people don't understand or uh, you know, vibe with the meaning behind it and whatnot and what it's trying to say, it's also just really really catchy. Uh So you probably can't help it sing along to it. But can you tell us about the inspiration for that song?

2:05 Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure. You know what's funny is.

2:09 Speaker 5: Our friend Brian Mulhern from Jackson and the pharmacist, like a local local radio thing in our area. He was talking this morning. As he put he posted something on Facebook this morning about how like, you know, it's really hard to be working class right now, that like wages of stagnated and they've been stagnating for years.

2:29 Speaker 3: And everything is more expensive.

2:31 Speaker 5: You know, inflation is out of control, rent is up, the price of buying a house is up, groceries are more expensive, and like, you know, we're really feeling a squeeze right now.

2:43 Speaker 3: And I wrote this.

2:43 Speaker 5: Song a year ago and it's only gotten worse than the last year.

2:47 Speaker 3: The song has only gotten more relatable.

2:51 Speaker 5: And I think when I wrote it, it was right in that period. I'm a teacher, so in February and March, those are days or months when like teachers really don't there's no like there's no break, and it's right in the middle of the year. There's no days off, and the kids are feeling it, the teachers are feeling it, and it's just like it's it's kind of an endless grind and I don't know, man, it's you know, I feel like there are other cultures in the world where they work to live, and it feels like we have backwards.

3:26 Speaker 3: We're living to work, and it just gets it just gets frustrating. Man. I was doing another interview the other day, and you know.

3:36 Speaker 5: Like the problem the American dream is like, you know, you work for like thirty years and then you get to retire with your white picket fence in your house and your family whatever.

3:45 Speaker 3: I am forty three years old. I've never owned a house. We're living it. We're coming to you live from our apartment this morning. And I've been working since i was like fifteen years old. Yeah, so I'm not great at math, but that that's almost thirty years.

4:00 Speaker 5: And I'm definitely not going to retire at forty five, you know, right, Like I'll be lucky if I can get out at sixty or sixty five.

4:09 Speaker 3: Well, we'll see.

4:12 Speaker 5: And man, like I know some people like there's a there's a maintenance guy at my job. I mean he's seventy five years old.

4:18 Speaker 3: And he is no intention of quitting.

4:21 Speaker 5: You know, Like we're we we we make dark jokes about like one day we're gonna walk in and we're just gonna find him down on the floor and hopefully it's us and not one of the like kindergarten kids that we have at the school, right, it's you know, it's.

4:35 Speaker 3: It's frustrating, and we wanted to write a song that like.

4:39 Speaker 5: Vented that frustration, but in like a catchy, fun kind of way.

4:44 Speaker 3: We didn't want it to seem like a downer. Yeah.

4:47 Speaker 5: Like like a lot of the songs that I write, the lyrics are super down, but the uh, you know, we try and keep the tempo up beat.

4:57 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

4:58 Speaker 2: Have you had a chance to play I know it's a new song, have you had a chance to play it out live?

5:04 Speaker 3: Yeah?

5:05 Speaker 5: So we played it a couple of times at eight and Sand, which is.

5:09 Speaker 3: A local brewery in our area.

5:12 Speaker 5: It's eight and Sand Brewing Company, and it's in Woodbury, New Jersey. So we played that there because you know, it's like our hometown.

5:20 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, we we know that even.

5:22 Speaker 5: If we even if we mess it up, our friends and family are not going to judge us.

5:26 Speaker 3: Plus, you know, it's a brand new song. How are you going to know if we messed it up?

5:29 Speaker 2: That's true, that's a good point. I was curious because I just imagine it's such a it's a song that's so easy to sing along to that, I would imagine it gets yeah, pretty good response from the crowd.

5:41 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've actually got We've we've gotten a couple of cool clips where like there are a couple of people singing along in the crowd and it's like their first time hearing the song, and I'm like, that's that's a good sign.

5:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's validation, right, I mean, that's like, uh, you know, when you see people reacting to it in real time the first time they're hearing it, that's that's fantastic.

6:01 Speaker 3: Anything that can make my fragile ego just a little bit big.

6:07 Speaker 2: I'm curious if if the two of you have I mean, I'm curious about influences. And I know we you know, we talked about influences the last time you were here, But are there are there other punk bands? I mean I can certainly think of some, but I'm curious about are there other bands that even not necessarily punk bands, but bands that you kind of look to for inspiration when you're writing a song like working class punk? Are there are there bands you can think of that might have influenced you that also address these types of issues and concerns.

6:38 Speaker 3: Oh?

6:39 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Specifically when I was writing working class punk. I was listening to a lot of Larger and Grace. She's the singer for.

6:48 Speaker 3: The Against Me and Against Me.

6:51 Speaker 5: I don't think is playing shows any longer, Okay, but Large and Grace wrote all those songs, so she still performs them live with her band.

6:58 Speaker 1: Yeah.

7:00 Speaker 3: And then I mean, you know, like.

7:02 Speaker 5: Dropkick Murphy's have been been all over the news and social media lately for their outspoken, you know, defense of the working class and critique of the current administration.

7:13 Speaker 3: In the US.

7:14 Speaker 1: Yeah.

7:14 Speaker 5: So yeah, there's I mean, I feel like, you know, punk music has always been a you know, one outlet for the working class. I mean, it's certainly not the only music that speaks to the working class, but it's always been there. I mean, you know, you think of bands like, you know, like Reagan, Youth, the Dead Kennedy's. You know, these are some of the old school punk bands that always always talked about like punching up, fighting against the oppression and the oppressive forces that really keep us all down and try and divide us up into you know, red team, blue team, when really it's like it's the top team versus the bottom team.

7:55 Speaker 3: And I like to think of all of us as power bottoms.

7:58 Speaker 1: Right, honey. The Sex Pistols also come to mind.

8:03 Speaker 2: Obviously not an American band, but but you know, a lot of their their stuff also really addressed, uh, you know, things going on in the UK. God Save the Queen is one of my favorite punk songs of all time.

8:15 Speaker 5: But so I like the Sex Pistols, like I like some of their music, and I like the message, but for me, it's like tainted by the disingenuousness of the fact that like they were they were put together as like they were put together as a boy band.

8:31 Speaker 3: Man. They were like they.

8:32 Speaker 5: Were to promote the like there was a store out there called sex I think, and the idea was the band was basically a big commercial, a live commercial, if you will, for that store.

8:45 Speaker 1: I didn't know about that, about that part of it. Yeah, oh that's interesting.

8:51 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's almost like it's it's like a it's like an astroturfed punk and like, you know, like I do appreciate some of their songs, I mean, yeah, God Save the Queen, Anarchy in the UK, these are all classics.

9:03 Speaker 3: You know.

9:03 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I also like like the like.

9:08 Speaker 3: Anarchy in the UK.

9:09 Speaker 5: Bothers me a little bit, just because like I I like a lot of the ideas of anarchism, like the socio political movement specifically, that anarchism is actually just opposing hierarchy, Like it's it's an opposition to hierarchy.

9:25 Speaker 3: It's not chaos, right.

9:28 Speaker 5: And it often gets conflated with chaos, and it's like, no, that's not what anarchists are fighting for. They're just fighting for a you know, to get rid of that class division. We should all be equal. It shouldn't be some people are you know, to quote animal farms, some people are more equal than others.

9:45 Speaker 1: That's yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I agree. I agree.

9:51 Speaker 2: Now this is so this came out on Labor Day obviously, and that's was that kind of the plan all along, Like like when you first because the song been around for a little while, right, you said you would you had written it last year.

10:04 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was definitely not the plan. So right now we're kind of on a show break. I mean, we're doing that. We have a show with Marky Ramone coming up September twenty twenty fourth at our More Music Hall, and that's gonna be that's gonna be super rad. But that kind of like that kind of fell into our laps. We got offered that show, and you know, despite the fact that we're on a show break until twenty twenty six, we were like, all right, well, I mean we have to take that, right, it's one of the Ramones.

10:32 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a really cool venue, Like, we can't turn that down. So we're doing We're doing that one as an exception to the little break that we're taking because for a while, we were, like for two years straight, we were pretty much playing out constantly. Yeah, right, now we're focused on like writing more music and then you know, trying to do that that life balance, man, Like we've all got families, we've all got careers, and trying to focus on that, give that a little bit extra love. So the original plan was we released ex Americana right before we were on your show the first time, and we were gonna hold off on working We recorded it at the same time as Working Class Punk and Working Class Punk.

11:14 Speaker 5: We were going to release in twenty twenty six when we started.

11:17 Speaker 3: Playing out again.

11:18 Speaker 1: Oh okay, but yeah, but like, I don't know.

11:22 Speaker 5: The idea came to us to that, like Labor Day was right around the corner, and we're like that would actually be kind of a perfect time to release a song called working class Punk.

11:31 Speaker 1: Yep.

11:32 Speaker 3: That kind of speaks to.

11:34 Speaker 5: The idea of the labor movement and you know, the idea of the owner class versus the working class. So we we we went ahead and pulled the trigger on it. You know, we came to that decision probably.

11:49 Speaker 3: Two weeks before Labor Day.

11:51 Speaker 5: So you know, I got on my computer and rushed out the distribution and made a bunch of promo and stuff like that, and we and we got and I'm happy we did outstanding.

12:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad. Yeah, No, it's it's such a great track. So the so the show break other than you know, you mentioned the Marquis Ramone show. But but that's that's going to be it for the rest of twenty twenty five, Is that correct?

12:14 Speaker 3: Yeah?

12:14 Speaker 5: Again, unless we get something that's like, you know, just too sweet to refuse.

12:19 Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

12:20 Speaker 5: Like like if if if the Descendants decide that they that they want us to open for them, I am I'm not going to turn that down. If a Windota Fighter decides that they want an opening band, We're not going to turn that down. We need to pay for you know, we're we're planning on recording an album in twenty twenty six, releasing that will be our uh our fourth album on streaming and our I don't know how many times we've been in the studio because like you know, like before Jersey Calling, Sean and I were in another band called burn Kate, I've played in other bands well during during Jersey Callings Hiatus.

12:58 Speaker 5: I don't know, it's like we're gonna go with like, you know, our double digit time in the studio, maybe like twelve or something like that. Yeah, we're really looking forward to doing a full length and yeah, we're kind of we're kind of focused on that and trying to save money for that.

13:14 Speaker 3: So you know, if if a gig falls into.

13:16 Speaker 5: Our lap where they're like, oh we're gonna pay you you know, X amount of dollars and it's and it's money that we can put toward that record, then you know, yeah, all available, Why wouldn't you take it?

13:27 Speaker 1: You know, right right, no doubt, no doubt.

13:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you record? Because obviously you're in an area where you know there's a lot of music, Like where where did you record a working class punk? Because it sounds great too? You know, I'm a trained audio engineer, and I pay a lot of attention to you know, not everyone pays attention to production, but I do. And I love the production. I love everything about it. But it just sounds so good. So I'm curious where you recorded it.

13:51 Speaker 5: So Working Class Punk and X we're both recorded at Montgomery County Community College.

13:58 Speaker 3: We got this offer from.

14:00 Speaker 5: Randy's sister's friend's kid. So I thought originally that this this this guy Noah, I say kid.

14:09 Speaker 3: He's like twenty two, twenty three years old.

14:12 Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's a student at Montgomery Co Montco Community College. That's just easier to say it that way. Montgomery County Community.

14:20 Speaker 3: College out in PI.

14:21 Speaker 5: And he is is a you know, music engineering major, and he wanted to record a band, and he knew of our band from Randy's sister, and he asked if he could record us for his final project, and you know, we said yes, and he yeah, he tracks both ex Americana and Working Class Punk with us.

14:45 Speaker 3: And you know, it was a different.

14:46 Speaker 5: Experience because usually we record at the Gradwill House recording studio and had in Heights, New Jersey. Okay, I mean those guys have been doing it forever. They know what they're doing. They like they've been nominated for Grammys, like they their their pros. And Noah is a student, you know, he's just getting started with this.

15:05 Speaker 3: So it was a very different experience.

15:07 Speaker 5: But still enjoyable, and it kind of challenged us some Sean pointed out in a recent interview, we did that, like it kind of challenged us to like make sure that we know our parts, because you know, studio magic can be done when someone knows what they're doing, Like, hey, you messed up a guitar part, Hey, no problem, we can copy and paste that from another take that you did. But Noah was a little more inexperienced, so it was like, if you don't get it right, then it's just not going to be right on the on the track.

15:38 Speaker 3: And he did an amazing job. And then what we did.

15:41 Speaker 5: After that was we took Noah's rough mix and we sent it to the Gradwell house for like a little remix makeover, just so they could like put some put their hands on it, put some love to it, and they did what they usually did, and they and they took our music, which you know is what I honestly, Noah's mix was great, but grad well just makes it sound so much more professional, just because they know what they're doing. Oh yeah, they've been doing it for so long. Yeah yeah, so yeah, they mixed it, they mastered it, and uh, once we got that track, we you know, we we even sent it over to Know and we're like, hey, here's what they did with it, and that way he can learn more from it.

16:23 Speaker 5: He did get an A on his final project, though, so I'm really happy about that.

16:27 Speaker 3: I was like, Man, if this kid doesn't get an A for.

16:30 Speaker 5: All the hours he put into recording us, that's really awful.

16:34 Speaker 3: You know.

16:35 Speaker 2: Well, it's cool too that it came out so well, because obviously in a scenario like that, you know, you're you're used to working with pros, and then this this opportunity comes up, and I mean, I don't know, I just know in my mind, i'd be thinking, Okay, we'll try this, but a student, I don't know, we'll we'll see what happens, you know, and and then uh, and then it came out great.

16:56 Speaker 1: So that's that's awesome.

16:57 Speaker 3: I'll thing too that Noah.

16:59 Speaker 5: Noah came up with some really cool ideas too, like the end of working class punk, you mentioned that you didn't want to talk over the ending because you love the like little out take part at the end.

17:09 Speaker 3: That was Noah's idea. He was like, oh my god, you guys should keep that in the song somewhere.

17:13 Speaker 5: It would be kind of fun. And I was like, oh yeah, like like maybe at the end, and we, you know, we kept it at the end because he had originally suggested it, because you know, otherwise and mess ups usually get deleted, right right right.

17:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, that's that's very cool, And I'm glad you got an a well well well deserved. That's that's fantastic.

17:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, is exactly rocks.

17:35 Speaker 1: I didn't think to look, is there a video for that? Have you? Have you made a video for that song?

17:39 Speaker 3: Or I did? I did? I did this. I did the same thing that I did with Working Class or sorry, I did the same thing that I did with ex Americana. Yeah, and I made the video on my phone.

17:52 Speaker 5: This this is like, this is probably the last video that I'll make on my phone, just because I feel like i'm kind of you know.

17:59 Speaker 3: I I don't want to.

18:00 Speaker 5: I don't want our all of our videos to look exactly the same. But it's another very similar video to x Americana, where where I took pictures of the band stills of the band and I crudely animated them south Park style too to the music, and I think it's really fun. It's got lyrics in the video, which is something a little bit different from working from x Americana's video.

18:26 Speaker 3: It does have some throwbacks.

18:27 Speaker 5: To x Americana's video, because I mean, I think the two songs do have a little bit of common messaging with like being anti billionaire.

18:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know X style.

18:40 Speaker 5: Elon Musk absolutely makes an appearance in the video.

18:43 Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, Yeah, yeah, oh that's very cool. Yeah.

18:48 Speaker 2: I encourage people to check out the Jersey calling UH YouTube page and oh yeah, you got lyrics in there too, very very nice.

18:56 Speaker 1: So what's so, what's kind of the future?

18:59 Speaker 2: Well, we should mentioned again too, especially for people who might be UH in your area. I assume that's where the Marqui Ramone show is where you guys are, Yes, yeah.

19:08 Speaker 5: It's at Ardmore Music Hall, which is it's just outside of Philadelphia.

19:13 Speaker 3: It's on the main Line.

19:15 Speaker 5: I would say if you're in the city, it's probably a twenty minute drive something like that.

19:19 Speaker 3: Okay, if you're where we live.

19:21 Speaker 5: It's about forty five minutes to an hour, but well worth it because the Ardmore Music Hall is a it's it's a big venue, it's legitimate, like and there's sound. Their sound systems amazing. Plus, like, you know, after you see our set, which is pretty substantial, I thought maybe like for a for an act like MARKI Ramone, they would give us like twenty minutes or something, but like we're getting a full forty five minute set.

19:44 Speaker 3: Oh good, And then after us you get to see yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm pretty I'm pretty excited about that.

19:49 Speaker 1: Yeah.

19:50 Speaker 5: And then uh, right after we're done, you get to see MARKI Ramone play some classic Ramone songs and that's that's rat.

19:57 Speaker 1: Oh oh that's very cool. That's very cool. Boy. How old is sa now? He's got to be in his seventies right, Oh yeah?

20:03 Speaker 5: I would imagine yeah, and hopefully hopefully he's still got it because I remember a few years.

20:10 Speaker 3: Ago I saw Aggy Pop.

20:12 Speaker 5: He was doing like a reunion show with the Stooges, and I was like, all right, this guy's like, you know, seven hundred years old. There's no way he's going to have the energy out he was running around like a maniac with no shirt on. You know, he's got that like his skin looks like old leather, but like he is, he was rocking, man like. I couldn't believe that Iggy Pop still had all that energy. I don't think I have as much energy as he Pop does when he's on stage, like.

20:41 Speaker 3: And I like to think I'm pretty active on stage.

20:43 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, Iggy.

20:45 Speaker 3: Pop is on a different level. He really was.

20:47 Speaker 2: It actually doesn't surprise me just because of I've never seen Iggy Pop live, but just from what I've heard, you know, over over the decades that, yeah, there's just something about him. He just has endless energy no matter how old he gets. That's one thing that never changes.

21:00 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm guessing it's like residual drugs flowing through his bloodstream, like, you know, like there's that guy's done so much that like he's never going to come.

21:11 Speaker 1: Down, right, Maybe that's what it is, And.

21:15 Speaker 3: That's what that's my guess. The only thing keep keeping Keith Richards alive, That's what I'm sure of.

21:20 Speaker 1: That, right, Yeah, he's gonna outlive us all I think. Yeah, well, very good, very good.

21:26 Speaker 2: So where should uh, where should people go online to keep up with everything that Jersey Colin is doing.

21:32 Speaker 3: So I mean our social media.

21:34 Speaker 5: We're on uh, we're on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, threads, and it's just at Jersey Calling. It's just at and then the band name okay, and then we have a YouTube channel that's also at Jersey Calling. We have a website and that is Jersey Calling Music dot com.

21:55 Speaker 2: Very good, very good now in a moment, So we're gonna when we end our conversation, I want to play x Americana because that I love that song as well, and I think I even told you both when when you were here in studio that time that that's my favorite of the songs that you sent us. So we'll end the segment with that. I'll probably play Uh, I'll probably play Working Class Punk though again later in the show in the second or third hour somewhere else sneaking in because I love that song too, and we want to keep pushing that that's such a great track.

22:20 Speaker 1: But what should we know about ex Americana?

22:22 Speaker 2: And again, I know, I know we talked all about it when you were here in studio with us, But for for people who are new listeners or people who are not familiar with Jersey calling, what can you tell us about this song that we should know?

22:34 Speaker 5: So ex Americana, I mean, even though we were recording at the same times working class Punk, it was like the opposite with the writing process. Sean sent me some lyrics he had scribbled down on the train on the way to work, and it were, you know, we are about Elon Musk.

22:48 Speaker 3: And it was right when he had been you know, appointed to the position of the head of DOGE.

22:55 Speaker 5: Yes, you know, right right after Trump was elected to a second term. And UH, like, I love the lyrics, and I was like, yeah, I think I can work this into something, man. And I had a progression that I like, a guitar a chord progression that I was that was gonna that was saving for something.

23:11 Speaker 3: I wanted to use it for something I didn't know what yet. Yeah, So I took Sean's lyrics, I took my progression.

23:16 Speaker 5: I kind of fused them together, and uh came up with came up with the basic structure of the song, and then we rushed that out because I was like, you know.

23:26 Speaker 3: What, we need to get this out before it's irrelevant.

23:30 Speaker 5: Because Trump and Musk like there's no way that those two egos are going to last. There there's gonna yeah, there's I was like, there's gonna there's gonna be a falling out. Yeah, there's gonna be an excommunication. We need to you know, no no pun intended with that, right and.

23:51 Speaker 3: Like I'm like, we need to get it out.

23:52 Speaker 5: Before before this is completely irrelevant, and they're like okay, And that's when, you know, we got the opportunity to record with Noah at Monco and uh, you know, we had practiced that song I think like twice before going into the studio. So like that one was particularly rough recording it because we were like we were still learning it while we were recording it.

24:14 Speaker 3: But I'm really happy with how it turned out.

24:16 Speaker 5: And we couldn't have time to release more perfectly, man, because we released it like a day after Trump and Elon had that falling out, Like it was perfect perfect it was and and and it came out a day before Trump's birthday, so.

24:34 Speaker 3: Like it was, oh man, it was. It was. Honestly, I got lucky.

24:43 Speaker 5: It was a cool idea, but it could have it could have gone wrong, you know, they could have like the Trump Elon break up the divorce could have happened earlier, but it also happened.

24:53 Speaker 4: At like a great time because that's when the chatter was really high about him online.

24:58 Speaker 3: So then when you made the the post, oh yeah, that was.

25:04 Speaker 1: Yeah.

25:04 Speaker 5: We we we made a we made a Trump tweet.

25:09 Speaker 3: We we we we made it well.

25:11 Speaker 5: We made it look like he was insulting the band on truth social and uh. And that post went viral because everyone thought it was real.

25:22 Speaker 1: Oh that is so smart, that is that is genius.

25:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, it was.

25:26 Speaker 1: It was.

25:27 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe how many people thought it was.

25:29 Speaker 5: Really like, it's still getting traction to this day. It's got almost like a million views.

25:34 Speaker 3: It's crazy.

25:36 Speaker 5: And I mean I think I I basically attribute that to the fact that, like ex Americana in the you know one, in the first month it was released.

25:44 Speaker 3: Became our number one song.

25:46 Speaker 1: Yeah like it.

25:47 Speaker 5: It boosted our numbers by a lot and working class punk, you know, I'm like looking at it, I'm like, yep, we're back to normal.

25:53 Speaker 3: We're just back to regular numbers again.

25:56 Speaker 5: But but you know, like it's tough to get lightning to strike twice. It is what it is, you know, And I'm still proud of the music that we make, and we've always made it for us, not necessarily for accolades.

26:11 Speaker 2: You know, sure, sure, well, very good. Well listen, Josh and Victoria, thank you both so much. Always wonderful to talk with you, and I look forward to the next time. And again working class Punk, great track. We were very happy to play it here and and of course, well, like I said, I'll probably sneak it in again later in the show and we're gonna end the segment with this track again. I love this song so much, x Americana. But we'll let you go, but thank you both for joining us this morning. Really appreciate it.

26:40 Speaker 3: Thanks man, appreciate you man.

26:42 Speaker 1: You got it, you got it, Okay, take care, bye bye. All right.

26:45 Speaker 2: So that was Josh and Victoria from a Jersey calling such a great band and I love this song. Let's give this a spin. If you haven't heard this one yet, this is ex Americana.