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Karishma Manzur | Matt Connarton Unleashed
Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome. Here we go a special bonus hour
Speaker 1: number four of Matt connorton Unleashed. Today. It is August thirtieth,
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Speaker 1: It is a holiday weekend, so I don't know how
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Speaker 1: know a lot of people are going to be checking
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Speaker 2: Is that creative space.
Speaker 1: You are, Yes, you are at a table of sorts
Speaker 1: and joining us live on the show. We have Karishma Manzor,
Speaker 1: a New Hampshire candidate for the United States Senate challenging
Speaker 1: for the Democratic nomination. And Hello, Karishma. Hello man well Sisa,
Speaker 1: Oh sorry.
Speaker 3: Hello Jen, good afternoon, Good afternoon.
Speaker 1: So it's nice to have you here. We were, of
Speaker 1: course Jenny and I were recently at your event at
Speaker 1: McIntyre here in Manchester making your official announcement, and Jenny
Speaker 1: was Jenny spoke there as well, as there were a
Speaker 1: number of great speakers there that day, and of course
Speaker 1: and you spoke and announcing your candidacy. Why are you well? Actually, well,
Speaker 1: let's start here for tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: your background, if you would, and then I want to
Speaker 1: know all about why you're running. You're certainly an underdog
Speaker 1: in this race. Of course we'll get into all of that,
Speaker 1: but tell us a little bit about you and your background.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 4: Thank you first of all, thank you Matt, thank you Jen,
Speaker 4: and thank you for all the listeners. I truly appreciate
Speaker 4: that you guys are giving me this opportunity to reach
Speaker 4: other people across Mawhampshire. Let me see who am I?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 4: I'm Kirishma. I live in Exeter with my husband my
Speaker 4: two children. I'm a scientist by training and I've been
Speaker 4: working in clinical research for about twenty years. Over twenty
Speaker 4: years now so clinical research. My work has involved finding
Speaker 4: treatments for various illnesses. I worked on Alzheimer's disease at
Speaker 4: one point, but the last few years, I was mainly
Speaker 4: focused on epilepsy and depression, and I loved my work.
Speaker 4: I love being a scientist. I love being love doing
Speaker 4: clinical research. It is just so gratifying. You don't end
Speaker 4: the day saying, oh, another eight hour day, or ten
Speaker 4: hour day or twelve our day. You just absolutely love
Speaker 4: it because you know that whatever you're doing, whatever the
Speaker 4: workload is, it is always helping people. So it's a
Speaker 4: form of public service. Matt and Jen. It is a
Speaker 4: form of public service because scientists.
Speaker 2: We don't really yes, we don't get rich.
Speaker 4: We don't go in for the money. We go in
Speaker 4: because we care about people and we want to help them.
Speaker 4: So but over the course of the last couple of years,
Speaker 4: I started to get a little sad because every time
Speaker 4: I would hear, wait a second. So we have all
Speaker 4: these great treatments, we have all these wonderful research going on,
Speaker 4: but what will happen to these treatment? Will people be
Speaker 4: able to access it? And yes, many millions of people
Speaker 4: are able to get receive treatment, but it was disheartening
Speaker 4: to realize that millions of Americans, millions of Americans don't
Speaker 4: have access to and adequate healthcare, or they don't have
Speaker 4: access to they might have private health insurance, but they don't.
Speaker 4: They can't afford the copays. And so I started to
Speaker 4: move away a little bit, started to think, Wait, what's
Speaker 4: going on? Why is why is this happening in the
Speaker 4: richest country in the world, Matt. We live in the
Speaker 4: richest country in the history of the world. Yes, so
Speaker 4: why are millions of Americans suffering from various ways? But
Speaker 4: I was focusing specifically on healthcare at one point, and
Speaker 4: it's not because lack of resources. It's because it's deliberate, Mett.
Speaker 4: It's deliberate, it's by design. It's working exactly how people
Speaker 4: want it to work. The lawmakers have been basically leaving
Speaker 4: us behind for decades. Many are there are really great
Speaker 4: fighters over in Congress, many great fighters, but the majority
Speaker 4: actually are not interested. They're corporate politicians. So as long
Speaker 4: as their donors are happy, as long as their own
Speaker 4: portfolio is doing well and their stock options, they're actually
Speaker 4: doing quite well. Whereas here on the ground, people, and
Speaker 4: it's beyond healthcare, like the fact that we have our
Speaker 4: minimum wage is stuck at seven twenty five. It's really terrible. Absolutely,
Speaker 4: it's horrifying what we are doing to people, childcare is
Speaker 4: a serious crisis right now. There are so many families
Speaker 4: who just can't afford fifteen hundred or two thousand dollars
Speaker 4: childcare per month when they're working. It's terrible. And so
Speaker 4: what do you do. I go back to work, but
Speaker 4: I can't afford it because most of my salary is
Speaker 4: going to go to childcare, so it's worth it. What
Speaker 4: a terrible decision. And then the housing crisis, Matt so
Speaker 4: as more I started to move into the legislative field.
Speaker 4: I started to understand, Wow, there are all these crises
Speaker 4: that we hear about, we read about, but those are
Speaker 4: not impossible problems. Those are not problems that you know,
Speaker 4: as a government should be able to predict what's going
Speaker 4: to be needed. Populations growing will need more housing, families
Speaker 4: need childcare, cost of living needs to be managed, salaries
Speaker 4: have to keep up with inflation, and over and over again,
Speaker 4: I saw these wonderful pieces of legislation that have been
Speaker 4: introduced in the House and the Senate and barely, I
Speaker 4: mean it barely gets any enough co sponsors. So that's
Speaker 4: how I started to move away from research into nonprofit sector,
Speaker 4: then into the legislative work, and I basically became to
Speaker 4: a decision, many of us from the nonprofit sector, that
Speaker 4: it's not enough just to have just to elect a Democrat.
Speaker 4: We have to elect the right Democrat.
Speaker 1: And so here I am wonderful. You know, Jenny and
Speaker 1: I you you talked about how our health insurance system
Speaker 1: works or doesn't work, and you know you you you
Speaker 1: said something that I often say. We live in the
Speaker 1: most prosperous, most innovative, most successful country in the history
Speaker 1: of the world, and yet we somehow can't make sure
Speaker 1: that everyone has access to adequate or preferably better than
Speaker 1: adequate health care. It doesn't make any sense. And the
Speaker 1: reasons you laid out for why that is the way
Speaker 1: it is, it's true and and it's you know if
Speaker 1: I always say if we had and and we'll get
Speaker 1: into the I don't know exactly where you are on this,
Speaker 1: but I I've always advocated and you know, Jenny and
Speaker 1: I talked about this a lot too. You know, if
Speaker 1: we had single payer health care care. Because people say, well,
Speaker 1: where would the money come from, It's like, well, the
Speaker 1: money is already being spent. If you had single payer,
Speaker 1: now your employer doesn't have to pay for your health care.
Speaker 1: Now your employer doesn't have to deduct money from your
Speaker 1: paycheck to pay for your health care. So the money
Speaker 1: is already there. But we could just get rid of
Speaker 1: the whole. Because the thing about health insurance companies, and
Speaker 1: I like to be a little more blunt about it
Speaker 1: than most people are, to be very blunt, and let's
Speaker 1: hear it, to be very blunt. The health insurance company
Speaker 1: only wants you around as long as you are an asset,
Speaker 1: as long as your premium is getting paid every month
Speaker 1: and you're not costing them money. Once you move from
Speaker 1: being an asset to a liability, you're now costing them money.
Speaker 1: The insurance company then, at that point, would prefer that
Speaker 1: you die. It's purely a business.
Speaker 4: It is disgusting to think about it. But Matt exactly though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 4: It's horrible, horrific.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, they want why they want you
Speaker 1: to die at that point.
Speaker 3: And that's the reality they were all living in, right,
Speaker 3: And anybody who knows me knows that I've spent years
Speaker 3: now advocating and trying to help people get the health
Speaker 3: care they need that they're denied by these arbitrary systems.
Speaker 2: And the thing.
Speaker 3: Is that the usual excuses, I don't want government run healthcare,
Speaker 3: But that's not what it is. We're not talking about
Speaker 3: socialized medicine. We're talking about what exists in your I
Speaker 3: don't know, Matt, you and I are going to have
Speaker 3: to have a debate about what's the best country in
Speaker 3: the world, because I think you're I don't think you're
Speaker 3: right on that one, because.
Speaker 2: I got to be in other places and.
Speaker 3: In the Netherlands, everybody has access to healthcare. Whatever it
Speaker 3: is that they need that the doctor orders, gets ordered.
Speaker 3: The cost is minimized because there isn't all this bureaucracy.
Speaker 3: And the doctor says you have X and need test
Speaker 3: to be okay, you get that. They say you need
Speaker 3: this drug and it goes to the pharmacist, and the
Speaker 3: pharmacist delivers it to you and that's the end of
Speaker 3: the friggin story right there, as far as hell, and
Speaker 3: it's cheaper, there's no billing crap, there's none of this.
Speaker 3: I mean, I had a provider that had to hire
Speaker 3: a new staff member to do nothing all day every day,
Speaker 3: but blue cross, blue shield denials of care for therapy,
Speaker 3: for mental health therapy should be something easy to get
Speaker 3: through insurance.
Speaker 4: And this is a full time job jender.
Speaker 2: Yes, versus that business was in conquered. This is here.
Speaker 3: Business was in conquered and they had they already had
Speaker 3: billing staff. They had to hire another staff member to
Speaker 3: do nothing but Blue Cross Blue Shield denials.
Speaker 2: Never mind the other company denials.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Right, So this is what we're living with and it's
Speaker 2: not that.
Speaker 3: So if it's insurance works by we all pay into
Speaker 3: a pool, yes, and then that pool pays the bills.
Speaker 2: Yes, we all pay taxes. This is our money.
Speaker 3: It goes into the Medicare fund that's supposed to pay
Speaker 3: the bills. Not give United Healthcare enough fuel to use
Speaker 3: their Gulfstream jet because they don't want to apply with
Speaker 3: the peasants.
Speaker 2: Utilizing our government to protect those profits.
Speaker 3: I need somebody in the Senate who's going to stand
Speaker 3: up to that, because nobody's doing it for me now.
Speaker 3: I was getting treatments covered by my insurance company. But
Speaker 3: since the new regime take over, they have now said
Speaker 3: that though I am not cured and there is no cure,
Speaker 3: they're no longer medically necessary. They called and told me
Speaker 3: that would not put it in writing, but will not
Speaker 3: give me a prior authorization, so I cannot get the
Speaker 3: treatment unless I pay cash upfront.
Speaker 2: I've tried to get help, and I've got crickets.
Speaker 3: And CMS, Center for Medicare Services is supposed to keep
Speaker 3: their feet to the fire and say that the.
Speaker 2: Law says you do X, that's what you do.
Speaker 3: That's their job to enforce those laws and make sure
Speaker 3: things are done right.
Speaker 2: I got crickets. I got no you know what they
Speaker 2: told me.
Speaker 3: CMS literally to me to try another insurance, oh my thought.
Speaker 3: Or to see a provider who doesn't offer the treatment
Speaker 3: that I need because the provider that they have or
Speaker 3: in network don't do these treatments. So I should give
Speaker 3: up treatment or just hang out until next year and
Speaker 3: try another insurance, because you know, illness lets you just
Speaker 3: hang out, right.
Speaker 2: You know that as a scientist, don't you. So if
Speaker 2: we had, like when you talk.
Speaker 3: About Medicare for all, people say government funded healthcare, that.
Speaker 4: Is absolute bullshit.
Speaker 2: That is bullshit.
Speaker 3: That is taxpayer funded, just like your insurance is now
Speaker 3: pay into the pool the pool bills. So if Medicare
Speaker 3: is accepted in most places and the doctor builds Medicare
Speaker 3: and Medicare pays the bills, without all the craft that
Speaker 3: goes on now, so there's not that overhead, not that cost.
Speaker 2: The cost of health care comes down.
Speaker 3: Medicare is accepted by most everybody, so you have access
Speaker 3: to everybody, so you don't have network constraints, state line
Speaker 3: border restraints.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So the kind of health care you're talking about makes
Speaker 3: it accessible for everybody and puts everybody in the same
Speaker 3: playing field in that you need chemo, you get the chemo.
Speaker 2: The insurance company doesn't get to.
Speaker 3: Say you need to try the cheaper version first, and
Speaker 3: then when that fails and it's too late to try
Speaker 3: the one the doctor wanted you on, you die sooner,
Speaker 3: so you don't cost them as much money.
Speaker 2: And I know that that's what my health insurance company, United.
Speaker 3: Healthcare, is hoping that I'm just going to kick off
Speaker 3: because they're not going to cover it.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll do what I always do. I'll pay for
Speaker 2: it my damn self, because they're not going to win.
Speaker 4: They're not right, you know.
Speaker 3: But it shouldn't be like this, so we shouldn't have
Speaker 3: to fight those battles. So that's one of the very
Speaker 3: biggest reasons why I was so happy to endorse you
Speaker 3: as a former state representative. As a former Republican, You're
Speaker 3: everything that I need up there to ensure what you
Speaker 3: want to bring to the table will save lives.
Speaker 2: What's going on.
Speaker 3: Up there right now and the status quo And I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: but your counterpart supports Medicare advantage, which is destroying lives
Speaker 3: and killing people.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what's doing it to me. And I've
Speaker 2: tried so hard with letters.
Speaker 3: And phone calls and meetings of trying to say please
Speaker 3: listen to us because we're hurting out here.
Speaker 2: And yet the status.
Speaker 3: Quo politicians up on the hill keep signing off on
Speaker 3: Medicare advantage and increasing the amount of money these companies
Speaker 3: gets in profit out of tax dollars Medicare tax dollars, well,
Speaker 3: increasing our costs.
Speaker 1: Well, let's let let's let Chrisma talk about that.
Speaker 4: You guys brought up so many great points. Okay, I
Speaker 4: don't have a piece of paper. I could have should
Speaker 4: have taken notes. I'm going to try to remember first
Speaker 4: Matt and Jenn. First of all, my god, you guys
Speaker 4: are the information that you guys just shared. You have
Speaker 4: to talk about it all the time out there everywhere
Speaker 4: because of us. Don't even know about these things right
Speaker 4: until suddenly we lose it, like we lose our employment,
Speaker 4: or we get older, or we are now some other disadvantage,
Speaker 4: and then you realize how messed up the system is.
Speaker 4: But we cannot wait until people are in their most
Speaker 4: vulnerable and then have to experience these terrible situations. So
Speaker 4: what you guys talked about, please talk about it over
Speaker 4: and over again with everyone. Let's get that message out.
Speaker 4: And what you said, I mean it was it kind
Speaker 4: of was chilling you called it, which is actually true.
Speaker 4: We are either assets or a liability. We're a commodity.
Speaker 4: How disgusting. So because why because it has become healthcare
Speaker 4: should not be for profit? Good God, healthcare should not
Speaker 4: be for profit, and that is exactly what the model
Speaker 4: we have. And so one thing I would like to
Speaker 4: say is look at our fire services, the first responders,
Speaker 4: whether it's the fire service or the police force. They
Speaker 4: are not for profit. We pay into for these services,
Speaker 4: and God forbid that we don't need it. But the
Speaker 4: day we may need it because there's a fire in
Speaker 4: the house or a burglars breaking in. I'm so glad
Speaker 4: that we have a fire department in my town and
Speaker 4: a police department in my town. Healthcare should be like that,
Speaker 4: not a for profit service. It should always be there
Speaker 4: and when you God forbid, if you're ill or you
Speaker 4: get into an accident, you have access to it. And
Speaker 4: it shouldn't. And Jen touched on this the amount of
Speaker 4: money we're wasting on the bureaucracy. Jen, I look this up.
Speaker 4: Thirty four percent of what we spend on healthcare, thirty
Speaker 4: four percent goes to bureaucracy, not to pay for medicine
Speaker 4: or treatments or devices or the physicians, just bureaucracy. And
Speaker 4: like you said, you walk into a doctor's office and
Speaker 4: you know the receptionist is in the front checking you in,
Speaker 4: but you see two or three people are in the
Speaker 4: working in the background. All they're doing is fighting with
Speaker 4: health insurance. It's a legitimate doctor's office, it's a primary care.
Speaker 4: You know they're going to most proudly order blood tests,
Speaker 4: maybe some other tests, and they're going to sign up
Speaker 4: a physician, an MD who has gone to medical school,
Speaker 4: who has done the internship, who has done the residency,
Speaker 4: who has years of practice, has to basically fight with
Speaker 4: the insurance company. Someone somewhere, maybe in the Philippines, somewhere
Speaker 4: who will be like, nah, I don't think so. I
Speaker 4: don't think that test is required.
Speaker 2: Who are you?
Speaker 4: What medical degree do you have? We have to talk
Speaker 4: about it loud and clear. We have to inform people,
Speaker 4: and we have to say this is unacceptable and why
Speaker 4: is it? Why so we are now the only developed
Speaker 4: nation in the world, not only the richest, but we
Speaker 4: also have another we were sticking out. We're the only
Speaker 4: developed nation does not have a universal health coverage. Right.
Speaker 4: That is embarrassing. It is embarrassing.
Speaker 3: And not only that, we associate it with work only.
Speaker 2: So you get sick and you can't work anymore, you
Speaker 2: lose your health.
Speaker 3: That's what happened to me. I was a full time
Speaker 3: healthcare worker. I had a multiple jobs, but I got
Speaker 3: breast cancer, and that's that trashed my whole life, right,
Speaker 3: And it wasn't any fault, but exactly that, right, like
Speaker 3: we associated yeah, yeah exactly, and the minute you're sick,
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, well, if you can't make me money
Speaker 3: and you can't serve me, I got no use for
Speaker 3: you anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And it's really wrong. And then a lot
Speaker 4: of times it stops a person from moving to another job.
Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, you know, I don't like my job.
Speaker 4: I want to see an advancement, but you know I
Speaker 4: have that health insurance, like it really holds people back.
Speaker 4: It does so from the employee perspective, you were like,
Speaker 4: you know, I really want to try something else. Maybe
Speaker 4: I want to take some time off, maybe I want
Speaker 4: to try and start my own business, but I cannot
Speaker 4: afford health insurance on my own. But and I think Jen,
Speaker 4: you touched on it, from the employer's perspective, it is
Speaker 4: draining them. Every single year, the premiums keep going up,
Speaker 4: and it is absolutely terrible. I've talked to small business
Speaker 4: owners who are afraid to hire more people because they
Speaker 4: just can't afford it. Right, Like Jen said, you lose
Speaker 4: your insurance when you are when you're sick. But another
Speaker 4: thing that happens is say you are forty, maybe you're
Speaker 4: a fifty year old or a sixty year old, and
Speaker 4: you're still working and you try to get a job.
Speaker 4: That employer will look at your age and say, this
Speaker 4: person might cost me more because my insurance company will say, huh,
Speaker 4: we are spending a little bit more because your employees
Speaker 4: have more illnesses. Your premium is going to go up.
Speaker 1: It's a good point that.
Speaker 4: Stops employers from hiring a fifty year old and sixty
Speaker 4: year old. You'll see people we will say, I'm almost
Speaker 4: it's impossible to find a job now because I am
Speaker 4: at a certain age. So it makes no sense what
Speaker 4: we have. It is absolutely horrible for individuals. It's horrible
Speaker 4: for employers. It's horrible for the people who get sick.
Speaker 4: We need to let's say, okay, so we have established
Speaker 4: it's a broken system. So now, so I'm a scientist, Jen,
Speaker 4: you are also coming from science, Matt, I don't actually know.
Speaker 1: I'm very bad at science. Math and science are not
Speaker 1: my friends. But that's why I trust people who know
Speaker 1: about science.
Speaker 4: So Jen and I are both coming from the healthcare field.
Speaker 4: So we are this kind of like we're kind of
Speaker 4: we are pragmatists, we're practical. We're like, Okay, there's this problem,
Speaker 4: let's figure out the problem, what's causing the problem, Let's
Speaker 4: look at solutions and implement the solutions.
Speaker 3: And it's a very.
Speaker 4: Simple, right. It's like for us, it's like it's a
Speaker 4: no brainer, but obviously it's so not a no brainer
Speaker 4: for a lot of people, or maybe they're too corrupt
Speaker 4: to be no brainers for them. Okay, so what is
Speaker 4: the solution. Let's talk about the solution. Then. We need
Speaker 4: one single healthcare plan that is not going to be
Speaker 4: for profit we cannot have, and that is not going
Speaker 4: to have thirty four percent spent on bureaucracy. We are
Speaker 4: going to have one single pair system which will cover
Speaker 4: every American across the country. And what is that system called.
Speaker 4: There's only one plan out there, which is Medicare for all. Now,
Speaker 4: the word medicare is being used way too many places,
Speaker 4: and I think it's just scare people. So there's a
Speaker 4: different and this is Jen. I'm going to try to
Speaker 4: explain it, but I know you're the expert, so please
Speaker 4: chime in because you have taught me so much about medicare. Folks,
Speaker 4: if you have any questions, ask Jen. She's like, I swear,
Speaker 4: she's brilliant and she's an expert. All right, So Jen
Speaker 4: helped me out. Here's the traditional medicare, which is the
Speaker 4: Plan A, Plan B, and Plan D yep. Okay, so
Speaker 4: that is available to people when they hit sixty five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or you can currently sixty five my generation, it's
Speaker 3: switching to sixty.
Speaker 2: Seven seven, okay. Or have you become disabled right okay?
Speaker 2: Or you're born Sometimes it happens for children.
Speaker 3: If you're born with some kind of a disability, you
Speaker 3: may have have medicare granted right out of the gate
Speaker 3: as your baby.
Speaker 4: That's true, okay. Now, Medicare Advantage should not use the
Speaker 4: term medicare because that abuses the word medicare and throws
Speaker 4: people off.
Speaker 2: That is that typical.
Speaker 4: Marketing scheme to use a good word, and.
Speaker 2: You know, don't do that.
Speaker 4: Don't do that.
Speaker 3: And that's one of those bills you were talking about
Speaker 3: that's sitting in the Senate. You're a stalled that's supposed
Speaker 3: to forbid them from being able to use that term.
Speaker 3: So they can because so many people, especially older folks,
Speaker 3: get tricked in states, especially where they can call you
Speaker 3: and do everything over the phone.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean yeah, and that's it all.
Speaker 4: But now Medicare advantage, it uses the term medicare, but
Speaker 4: it's all for profit insurance companies are part of that, right, yes, okay,
Speaker 4: So that's where it's no longer a controlled environment. Now
Speaker 4: you've gone into the for profit sector and therefore you
Speaker 4: are now, oh, they are not going to cover this
Speaker 4: treatment or they're going to meet pre authorization, and then
Speaker 4: it becomes that whole complexity and it is no longer
Speaker 4: about the patient and their provider. It becomes about a
Speaker 4: CEO and their profit.
Speaker 3: One of my specialists has staff that do nothing all
Speaker 3: day but sit on the phone getting prior authorizations for
Speaker 3: every single treatment done.
Speaker 4: The other day I was at the doctor's office and
Speaker 4: I intentionally talked to them. I was like, I need
Speaker 4: to talk to you guys. How long does it take
Speaker 4: you to get authorization? Like every single insurance company has
Speaker 4: its own system. Some are over the phone, Some are
Speaker 4: like this complicated computer system. Some are a little bit easier.
Speaker 4: And they said, sometimes it can be I can be
Speaker 4: on hole for an hour, one patient, one procedure, on
Speaker 4: hole for an hour. Ye think about how annoying and
Speaker 4: how grotesque that is. It is so wrong. So then
Speaker 4: so now okay, so but we are feeding. So at
Speaker 4: the moment, our whole healthcare system costs five trillion dollars,
Speaker 4: five trillion dollars. That's with a big ta Medicare for all,
Speaker 4: which is different from traditional medicare. Because okay, I should
Speaker 4: talk about it a little bit just before I go
Speaker 4: into the finances. Medicare for All builds on traditional Medicare,
Speaker 4: but the advantages I should not say the word advantage.
Speaker 1: Okay, Johnny calls it Medicare disadvantage.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, we're talking about about that one partsy out.
Speaker 4: Okay. Medicare for All builds on the awesome Medicare system
Speaker 4: that we have. But it includes dental, vision, hearing, and
Speaker 4: long term care, which is not part of traditional Medicare,
Speaker 4: because those are extremely important.
Speaker 3: That's a that's another thing that we do that other
Speaker 3: countries don't do.
Speaker 2: We don't.
Speaker 3: They take eyes and teeth a part of your body.
Speaker 5: So like that's you know, part of the healthcare too,
Speaker 5: but here not so much. Even though a truth bacteria
Speaker 5: can cause a fatal heart condition and life.
Speaker 4: So I had to tooth move not to get to personally.
Speaker 4: But I need a filling. It's gonna cost me five thousand.
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, I think I'm good.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm getting out of my dentist. We'll
Speaker 2: talk later.
Speaker 4: Some people said, go to a foreign country and get
Speaker 4: it done. It'll be cheaper.
Speaker 1: That's what Americans are doing because the people.
Speaker 2: Do get health care at home.
Speaker 3: And it touched back to what you were saying about,
Speaker 3: how all of this is integrated, so that doctor is
Speaker 3: paying for that staffer for an hour salary to sit
Speaker 3: on hold, plus matching their taxes and paying their Medicare
Speaker 3: and paying their all of that cost. Yes, to hold
Speaker 3: on for prior authorization. Now if you just got to
Speaker 3: do the treatment, what's the cost of that? And how
Speaker 3: many more people are available to actually take care of
Speaker 3: patients instead of pushing pencils?
Speaker 4: Exactly? Absolutely so. Now, now, so that five trillion dollars system,
Speaker 4: if we transfer, we get rid of all those for profits,
Speaker 4: we get rid of all the CEO's money, and the
Speaker 4: Wall Street's making a huge amounts of money. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: Wall Street is so happy with the broken system. And
Speaker 4: we get rid of the bureaucracy, and we just hold
Speaker 4: on to that five trillion dollar system. Medicare for all
Speaker 4: will be six and fifty billion dollars cheaper than that
Speaker 4: five trillion dollar system.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 3: Let if we think about our history too, Oh gee,
Speaker 3: politicians stole money out of the Medicare Trust Fund.
Speaker 2: How about wouldn't this put money back into it?
Speaker 3: I hadn't get healthcare to more people at a better price,
Speaker 3: Like there's so much about that that just snowballs.
Speaker 4: So Jen, why are we why don't we pass it?
Speaker 4: Why are we the only nation in the developed nation
Speaker 4: that doesn't have that system limit? Let's talk.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, it's the lobbyist.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a multimillion dollar industry. They spend millions and
Speaker 3: millions of dollars on the hill. I watched as it
Speaker 3: happened when we tried to fight that money shouldn't get
Speaker 3: increased to these health insurance companies, you know, with the
Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars the EO salary, right, and they're
Speaker 3: cutting our benefits like this year Medicare disadvantage cut dental
Speaker 3: care except for cleanings and X rays. Oh, because that
Speaker 3: those are cheaper. So it just I thought this was
Speaker 3: about giving us more benefits to this cheaper cost. But
Speaker 3: here's the thing, you know that Medicare disadvantaged those companies United.
Speaker 2: Healthcare at the Blue Cross, Blue Shield, they make millions
Speaker 2: of billions.
Speaker 3: They make over eight well, United Healthcare makes about eight
Speaker 3: billion dollars every three.
Speaker 2: Months in profit, and a a ton of that.
Speaker 3: Is Medicare dollars because they make more money on Medicare
Speaker 3: advantage patients than they do anything else. Because first of all,
Speaker 3: they get like a flat month forgetting you as once
Speaker 3: you signed up on THEIRS, they get money for you. Now,
Speaker 3: every time they add a diagnostic code that makes you sicker, they.
Speaker 2: Get more money. The sicker you are, the more money
Speaker 2: they get.
Speaker 3: If they keep denying and delaying your care, they're not
Speaker 3: spending it, they're pocketing it. And that's exactly what's going on.
Speaker 3: And I will tell you. I know I've said this
Speaker 3: to you before. I don't want to say it or
Speaker 3: on air. I've asked so many politicians tell me something.
Speaker 3: Tell me one thing that helped insurance companies do to
Speaker 3: increase positive outcomes in any healthcare case.
Speaker 2: I know, And only one tried to answer me.
Speaker 3: He's like, they collect data because we don't have enough
Speaker 3: universities and medical facilities and actual doctors and nurses and
Speaker 3: scientists to do that. We need some yall bulge Bullsharry
Speaker 3: bullshit out of sitting in some office with his three
Speaker 3: thousand dollars suit. Yeah, you know, flying in his Gulf
Speaker 3: Stream jet over to his freaking yacht on our Medicare
Speaker 3: tax dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what.
Speaker 3: Medicare advantage is absolutely freaking horrible and it's one of
Speaker 3: the biggest fleasing of America that has ever happened has
Speaker 3: been medicare advantage. And how much money these multi millionaire
Speaker 3: billionaire people are making on the backs of the working
Speaker 3: poor while they're denying them chemo, denying them care. I mean,
Speaker 3: you remember the doctor that wrote the letter yelling at
Speaker 3: them for denying Yeah, kid with cancer, the zaufriend from
Speaker 3: the nausea. How how got a role that felt to
Speaker 3: read that doctor's letter like no doctors should ever have
Speaker 3: to do that. I've watched doctors on the Hill practically
Speaker 3: in tears in front of committees, to the Senator saying, please,
Speaker 3: I have cance children with cancer that need access to
Speaker 3: this drug. We're supposed to have orphan disease access. Why
Speaker 3: don't we have it? And the politicians, Yeah, that's why
Speaker 3: I think a scientist on the hill who understands the
Speaker 3: real of these decisions. Yes, I want somebody up there
Speaker 3: who actually knows that when you don't pay attention to this,
Speaker 3: people die.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 1: There's another there's another reason. Nobody ever talks about this part.
Speaker 1: But I think there's another reason why we why Americans
Speaker 1: tolerate such a broken healthcare system. We're conditioned from a
Speaker 1: young age to accept and to believe that we have
Speaker 1: a great healthcare system. Because when you're young and you're healthy,
Speaker 1: and if you're like I remember being, you know, young,
Speaker 1: and hell, knock on wood, I'm still healthy even at
Speaker 1: the age I haven't had anything catastrophic go wrong. I'm lucky.
Speaker 1: But but when I remember being young and having a
Speaker 1: full time job working for a company that had what
Speaker 1: I assume was was really good health insurance because I
Speaker 1: never had to use much of it, and you know,
Speaker 1: so you get conditioned to Okay, i'm young, i'm healthy,
Speaker 1: I've got a job. Oh I'm sick, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to the doctor. I might have a small copay whatever,
Speaker 1: I've got health insurance by my company. I'm covered. I'm
Speaker 1: never even gonna see a bill. I'm gonna pay. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pay the cope and that's it. And then go
Speaker 1: on with my life, and you know, assuming nothing terrible
Speaker 1: is wrong with me, take whatever, antibiotic, whatever, and life
Speaker 1: goes on. So so you're conditioned from a young age
Speaker 1: when you first enter the workforce that everything's great, everything,
Speaker 1: everything's easy. With health care, it's and if you're lucky
Speaker 1: enough to to have health, you know, well into middle
Speaker 1: age and old age. Then you might go your entire
Speaker 1: life without any without even a clue that there's anything
Speaker 1: wrong in the healthcare system if you're one of the
Speaker 1: lucky ones. But we're conditioned from a young age to
Speaker 1: believe that the American healthcare system is great because you know,
Speaker 1: unless something bad happens to you, God forbid, you have
Speaker 1: no way of knowing.
Speaker 3: Right exactly the rest of the world they're doing preventive medicine.
Speaker 2: Here, we're doing cleanup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another issue too, there's not enough. But that's yea.
Speaker 3: God because of exactly that the conditioning your conditioned to
Speaker 3: think you only.
Speaker 2: Go to the doctor's when you don't feel good. You
Speaker 2: don't talk to the.
Speaker 3: Doctor about how to be healthy, and the doctor doesn't
Speaker 3: have time to even do it.
Speaker 4: And let's talk about some of the problems. Okay, I'm
Speaker 4: going to give you real life examples, and I'm sure
Speaker 4: Matt and Jen you guys can also add many more.
Speaker 4: I'm just going to give you. Okay, here in Exeter,
Speaker 4: one of my best friends, he's seventy six years old.
Speaker 4: He's done everything in his life whatever he needed to do,
Speaker 4: paid taxes, had a job, raise four kids. Now he's retired,
Speaker 4: he receives Medicare, he has Social Security and he's a
Speaker 4: small pension. He's on fixed income. It is he has
Speaker 4: to be very careful. But of course, as he's aging,
Speaker 4: the opposite of the scenario that Matt just talked about,
Speaker 4: which is like, oh, everything's great. I go every so often.
Speaker 4: I don't have a lot of problems. While when you're
Speaker 4: hit your seventies, even if you are fine all your life.
Speaker 4: Now of course things are starting to slow down. You know,
Speaker 4: your heart might need some support, your blood pressure, medicine
Speaker 4: needs some support, et cetera. So he needs blood thinners.
Speaker 4: He has a drill fibrillation. He needs blood thinners, and
Speaker 4: otherwise he's going to form blood clots. Medication costs a
Speaker 4: lot of money. He has Medicare, but the code pay
Speaker 4: is high. So does he What did he do? He
Speaker 4: decided to ration his medicine. He's started to skip one
Speaker 4: dose because two tablets a day. Maybe I can get
Speaker 4: away with one tablet a day. What my friend suffered
Speaker 4: a stroke in the richest country in the world, A
Speaker 4: seventy six year old man who did everything by the books,
Speaker 4: taxpayer everything, he suffers a stroke wrong and he is
Speaker 4: so wrong, Jen, it is so wrong. Let's let's scream
Speaker 4: that every single day to everyone. It is wrong. We
Speaker 4: should that is the status quo, and this is unacceptable
Speaker 4: and we should not accept it. We should inform people
Speaker 4: and say no, don't let the lawmakers fool us and say,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but we're better than that other country.
Speaker 4: We're better than that other country. So I'll get to
Speaker 4: that because I used to buy into that criticism as well, like,
Speaker 4: whoa are we done better than the other country. But
Speaker 4: at least my friend did survive. He stayed in the
Speaker 4: hospital for several days, he was released. He does it
Speaker 4: does not appear that he has any permanent issue. So
Speaker 4: it's good but lucky, lucky, lucky. But now he's exactly well,
Speaker 4: that's yeah, but he could have become one of the statistics.
Speaker 4: We lose fifty thousand Americans, fifty thousand Americans each year
Speaker 4: because of health insurance issues. Either they don't have insurance
Speaker 4: or they're under insured because they you know, they yes,
Speaker 4: they're issues, something's going on to their body, but they
Speaker 4: can't afford to see the position. I mean, when you
Speaker 4: have a limited amount of money. The first thing you
Speaker 4: do is pay your rent. You do not want to
Speaker 4: become homeless. Second thing you do is you have to
Speaker 4: feed your body. Even with canned food bulk purchases, you
Speaker 4: can only stretch that dollar so much. And maybe third
Speaker 4: you fix your car because you got to get to
Speaker 4: work or you have to do it. And then maybe
Speaker 4: clothes healthcare becomes a luxury, exactly, shameful. Shame on us,
Speaker 4: Shame on us that we find this acceptable, that we're
Speaker 4: putting we're torturing people in this.
Speaker 2: Isn't that what Matt was talking about, right? We're conditioned
Speaker 2: to it. And that's why that's why I have the break.
Speaker 2: I'm happy about your campaign.
Speaker 3: Because conversations need to be happening louder, prouder, and up
Speaker 3: on that hill and I find that mill for once
Speaker 3: and for all. It's freaking change things for the better,
Speaker 3: because this is getting worth every single day. And now
Speaker 3: they just say, now, now we're going to introduce prior
Speaker 3: authorizations into traditional medicare using AI.
Speaker 2: That's the new regime twist.
Speaker 3: They just announced that, so you know, obviously that's going
Speaker 3: to be something they have to fight again.
Speaker 4: They just want to sueeze as much money out of
Speaker 4: us as possible in every single way, and we are
Speaker 4: just you know, we have to just get go along
Speaker 4: and be like, oh this is normal, Oh where's aren't
Speaker 4: we still better? Et cetera. I'll give you one more example,
Speaker 4: because I really I listen, I talk to people and
Speaker 4: I ask them what is what do you want to see?
Speaker 4: And tell me what is going on in your life?
Speaker 4: And that the stories you hear they're heartbreaking. Another person
Speaker 4: said her loved one needed care. It was authorized by
Speaker 4: their physician, but their insurance company wouldn't pay for it.
Speaker 4: That their their loved one died the same year that
Speaker 4: they lost their loved one because the health insurance company
Speaker 4: she had, a private health insurance company, was not authorizing it.
Speaker 4: That same year, the CEO of that insurance company made
Speaker 4: nineteen million dollars. That, Matt and Jen is blood money.
Speaker 4: That is medical murder. We have to talk. How can
Speaker 4: we even have a word a term medical murder? That
Speaker 4: is disgusting. This is like mass murder is going on.
Speaker 4: Let's face it's.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 3: It is when you deny people surgeries to save their
Speaker 3: lives or medications. Yeah, and your friend had a stroke
Speaker 3: that was preventable, and what damage was done was done.
Speaker 3: This is going to be ramifications for that. We all
Speaker 3: want to live as long as possible. And I don't
Speaker 3: care if if you make seven dollars an hour or
Speaker 3: seventeen thousand dollars an hour, you like, it's crazy that
Speaker 3: that person's life gets to be more valuable than somebody else's.
Speaker 3: You're working class Americans a bust in their humps.
Speaker 2: Every dm D.
Speaker 3: Everybody I talk to is co living because they can't
Speaker 3: afford to live alone, or having a second job or
Speaker 3: even a third job because the groceries are insane.
Speaker 2: Right now, I want to talk to everything else that.
Speaker 3: They're barely surviving as is, and they want to take
Speaker 3: more and more and more and keep denying care, and
Speaker 3: they just kill people off.
Speaker 4: You feel like squeezed you, like they're just what like
Speaker 4: blood suckers?
Speaker 2: What more?
Speaker 3: Make people feel like you're worthless, Like my life doesn't
Speaker 3: matter anymore. I've rationed my care. My life mattered when
Speaker 3: I was at EMT and I worked in the hospital,
Speaker 3: But after I got care and couldn't do that anymore,
Speaker 3: I guess it doesn't matter anymore now because now I
Speaker 3: have to fight for treatments.
Speaker 2: Or deal with just figuring.
Speaker 3: Out the costs for myself for medications whatever. And that's
Speaker 3: Medicare disadvantage. That's what I'm stuck on. Unless the government changes,
Speaker 3: I'm stuck. And so many other people out there are
Speaker 3: just like that. And like you said, they get denied
Speaker 3: home care, they get deny long term care, short term
Speaker 3: rehab care so they can have a life again. I
Speaker 3: have a friend who lost her dad who was denied
Speaker 3: rehab care.
Speaker 2: It's it's disgusting, and it's because that's the one the
Speaker 2: Hill are allowing it to happen. Bottom line, they allow it.
Speaker 4: Yes, so we have to you guys have an awesome platform.
Speaker 4: You have to spread the word. Okay, you cannot talk
Speaker 4: about healthcare every.
Speaker 3: Day, but I know I feel bad that we've like
Speaker 3: monopolized that.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, it's okay. But the same formula that's
Speaker 4: causing that herd with healthcare is actually the same formula
Speaker 4: that's impacting us for the housing crisis, the childcare crisis,
Speaker 4: the cost of living crisis many ways, so the minimum wage.
Speaker 4: So let's also talk about other ways people are suffering.
Speaker 4: So here in New Hampshire we have such a dire
Speaker 4: condition as far as housing is concerned, big time, big time.
Speaker 4: We are twenty four thousand units short right now, right now,
Speaker 4: twenty four thousand units short in a population of one
Speaker 4: point four million. Wow, that's huge, people. I think that
Speaker 4: I looked at the inventory rate for certain municipalities. Sometimes
Speaker 4: it's as low as half a percent or one percent.
Speaker 4: Vacancy rate is it's almost not there. So when you
Speaker 4: want to move from one apartment to the other, well,
Speaker 4: you don't have an option, and the expense rate is
Speaker 4: so high. Again, I'm going to use examples because that's
Speaker 4: exactly how I understand how to explain the gravity of
Speaker 4: the situation right here and right here. In exeter, a
Speaker 4: friend her she was talking about her her grown daughter.
Speaker 4: I call everyone a friend. I'm sorry, but when you
Speaker 4: have these raw conversations.
Speaker 2: Right there's a connection there.
Speaker 3: You're like that kind of personal Yes, exactly, I got it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just you know, to somebody to tell me
Speaker 4: how much they're you know, they take out their bill, like,
Speaker 4: come on, Grachman, let's talk about my bill. I want
Speaker 4: to show you my COPEI so, or they want to
Speaker 4: show their condition of their house. They need some repair,
Speaker 4: but they can't afford it, So you become like, Okay,
Speaker 4: that's that's really raw conversations. These are not like hi, hello,
Speaker 4: these are real conversations. So this person her, she's seventy seven.
Speaker 4: Her story is also terrible. So I'm going to touch
Speaker 4: on that are not terrible in the sense, but it's difficult,
Speaker 4: I should say. But her child has a job, she's
Speaker 4: in her thirties, she has a good job. She can
Speaker 4: afford an eleven hundred dollars in an apartment, which you
Speaker 4: would say is not a bad amount of money. Eleven
Speaker 4: hundred is a good amount of money. In Exeter, she's
Speaker 4: renting a basement space. It's not an apartment, it's a space.
Speaker 4: There are no windows, there's only one door to the
Speaker 4: main stairs to the main floor, which means if there's
Speaker 4: a fire, she's stuck. There is no other exit. It's
Speaker 4: an illegal basically, it's an illegal space. But that's what
Speaker 4: she can afford. There's no heating, there's no cooling, so
Speaker 4: she has to have, you know, space heaters, she has
Speaker 4: to have air conditioners, because that's just an unfinished basement
Speaker 4: for eleven hundred dollars. In again, in the richest country
Speaker 4: in the world and someone who has a good job. Her,
Speaker 4: she has a good, big job. We're not even talking
Speaker 4: about minimum wage now, this is a person who's actually
Speaker 4: making good money.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is what they can afford.
Speaker 4: Is that acceptable? Man?
Speaker 1: No, we should not accept.
Speaker 4: The status quo. The lawmakers want us to say, Oh,
Speaker 4: you know, things are bad, but you know whatever, national security,
Speaker 4: oh my god, crime rate, oh my god, what us
Speaker 4: distract us? Oh yeah, let's hate those people over there,
Speaker 4: let's marginalize another group, but don't pay attention to your
Speaker 4: real problems.
Speaker 1: So what's the solution? Karishma on that, I mean a
Speaker 1: good question.
Speaker 4: Yes, let's talk about Okay, we will try to touch
Speaker 4: on an issue. We will try to touch on the
Speaker 4: root cause, and then we'll try to touch on the solution.
Speaker 4: So what is the root cause of the problem. Why
Speaker 4: do we have a housing crisis? Simple? We just don't
Speaker 4: have enough houses? Yeah, okay, is that? First of all?
Speaker 4: How do we get to this situation? The government's job
Speaker 4: is you know, we have pretty smart people working in government.
Speaker 4: Maybe not at the top, but they're really good workers
Speaker 4: out there. They are supposed to calculate. You know, we
Speaker 4: are increasing, The population is increasing, even though new Hampshire.
Speaker 4: We're not growing at the rate of many other states,
Speaker 4: and because we're losing a lot of young people are
Speaker 4: moving out.
Speaker 1: They just ye they graduate and yes, but.
Speaker 4: At the moment we are we are still seeing people
Speaker 4: moving into New Hampshire. So we have but the rate
Speaker 4: of growth is slull, but it's still we're growing, so
Speaker 4: we need more housing. So what are the problems. One
Speaker 4: is those airbnbs, so it has taken out a lot
Speaker 4: of housing off the market because they are now go ahead.
Speaker 2: True, I never thought about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. It never occurred to me.
Speaker 4: So it's not the main problem, no, no, but it
Speaker 4: is the problem because if you go to for example,
Speaker 4: Rye Beach or you go to a lot of these places,
Speaker 4: those houses are just sitting there empty until the weekend
Speaker 4: or maybe a labor day long weekend. That's it. Otherwise
Speaker 4: they're just that's a housing unit. As far as the
Speaker 4: state is concerned. There is a certain number of housing units,
Speaker 4: but we are it's not occupied right. The other is
Speaker 4: second or third homes of people either living in New
Speaker 4: Hampshire and they own a second or third home, or
Speaker 4: people from out of state who own a second or
Speaker 4: third home in New Hampshire, and we have to deal
Speaker 4: with those in a different way. But that's another Again,
Speaker 4: you're taking a housing housing unit off the market, right
Speaker 4: but you're not using it one hundred percent of the time,
Speaker 4: but you're taking it, okay. And corporations have also come
Speaker 4: in their landlords and they're also purchasing a large number
Speaker 4: of these like these improvment complexes. Okay, that one is
Speaker 4: not necessarily taking housing off the market, but they are
Speaker 4: definitely causing rise in the price. Okay. Way, the one
Speaker 4: biggest way we can help right away, Matt. First of all,
Speaker 4: we have to do something about all these housing units
Speaker 4: that are not used all the time. We have to
Speaker 4: either we have to find a way for people. I mean, okay,
Speaker 4: let's not talk about that. The biggest problem is we
Speaker 4: have a low inventory. We have to build houses. We
Speaker 4: have to use us DA funds for rural They actually
Speaker 4: have the usdas US Department of Agriculture, They actually have
Speaker 4: rural housing funds for communities that are in the rural north.
Speaker 4: For example, our North Country will qualify. Some parts of
Speaker 4: the West Western towns will qualify. We actually can use
Speaker 4: USDA funds to build houses there. The other is hud
Speaker 4: Housing and urban development they actually have. These are federal
Speaker 4: dollars you can use to build build units. The state
Speaker 4: has to work with it because the state there are
Speaker 4: unique space and some if it's owned by the city
Speaker 4: or it's owned by the town, then there are a
Speaker 4: lot of rules or regulations. You can work with the
Speaker 4: city in town to figure out what can be built,
Speaker 4: what is allowed, and hopefully multi unit complexes because you know,
Speaker 4: then you're utilizing a space better. But they're also state
Speaker 4: owned spaces, right, you can also use that because then
Speaker 4: you don't have to worry about the rules and regulations
Speaker 4: of each town and each each city. So if you
Speaker 4: want to look at two towns that are doing really
Speaker 4: well with this multi family multi unit system, it's Sportsmouth
Speaker 4: and Dover. Yeah, Sportsmouth and Dover they're doing really well.
Speaker 4: So they have single family homes, they have you know whatever.
Speaker 4: People want to always protect their little single family home acreage.
Speaker 4: But you can also have town homes, or you can
Speaker 4: have apartment complexes, maybe multi story. You have to have
Speaker 4: mixed use. And then within the downtown area, maybe you
Speaker 4: can have like the bottom floors all about businesses, restaurants
Speaker 4: and stores, and the top units are all apartments. That's
Speaker 4: how we have to build right now. The only thing
Speaker 4: that keeps getting passed through Congress is one program called
Speaker 4: and I don't want to go all boring on you guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, no, good.
Speaker 4: It's called li tech, and I want to okay, I
Speaker 4: want to make sure I get the acronym right, low
Speaker 4: income Housing tax Credit l i HTC LI tech. That's
Speaker 4: really popular. If you look at the LI tech related
Speaker 4: bills that are in Congress, they get a bipartisan support.
Speaker 4: What is that LI tech? It sounds like a great idea. Oh,
Speaker 4: we are good. I look, as far as lawmakers are concerned,
Speaker 4: they can say I've sponsored this wonderful bill to help
Speaker 4: with the housing crisis. And then you look at the
Speaker 4: bill and you're like, oh, okay, that's a great you know,
Speaker 4: that's a good piece of bill. But what is happening
Speaker 4: with li tech? It gives tax credits to developers. Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm going to bore all of you.
Speaker 1: Sorry, no, no, I'm I'm glad you're going down this
Speaker 1: road because I'm actually a big.
Speaker 2: Fan of You want to understand, I'm a big.
Speaker 1: Fan of using the tax code to stimulate.
Speaker 4: Yes, too true, but that so you give tax credits
Speaker 4: to the developers, and you say you are eligible to
Speaker 4: receive this tax credit if you build a complex and
Speaker 4: you put away a certain number of units and consider
Speaker 4: them housing low income housing. And then the developer says, okay, great,
Speaker 4: I'll get some government subsidized tax credits. I'm going to
Speaker 4: build it. What happens is it's a two thousand page codebook.
Speaker 4: Developers hate it. They don't like it for two reasons.
Speaker 4: One is it's way too complicated, and the second reason
Speaker 4: is that tax credit is going to work over ten years,
Speaker 4: and the developer who's building that housing unit now needs
Speaker 4: the money now, not over the course of ten years.
Speaker 4: So what they do is they may still accept it,
Speaker 4: but then they turn it around and sell it back
Speaker 4: to Wall Street or to the bankers. It's another way
Speaker 4: to siphon federal money and back to Wall Street. That
Speaker 4: is why it's so popular. That's why it gets biparties
Speaker 4: and support. It's like, hey, they big money, We're like, hey,
Speaker 4: we love this lintec anyways. But the other thing is
Speaker 4: if you look at because of the codes and the
Speaker 4: regulations are so complicated. Like I said, a lot of
Speaker 4: developers just shun away. But the ones who even still
Speaker 4: take advantage. The cost of each unit on a li
Speaker 4: tech funded unit versus a non light tech funded unit,
Speaker 4: it actually costs more because there's just so much hurdle
Speaker 4: that they have to go through. They can only purchase
Speaker 4: certain kind of products, they can only purchase building certain ways,
Speaker 4: so actually the per cost per unit becomes higher than
Speaker 4: if they did not worry about l tech and they
Speaker 4: just built. So yeah, go ahead. Ly tech is approved.
Speaker 4: You know, it's always passed, it's got biopartisan support. But
Speaker 4: it will never ever help us mitigate the housing crisis.
Speaker 4: It's just another way for lawmakers to get away by
Speaker 4: saying I'm helping, aren't I No, you're not. You're just
Speaker 4: it's a band aid. Okay, Jen, let's go. Let's use healthcare.
Speaker 4: It's like you have a fractured leg and instead of
Speaker 4: fixing up that bone, you put a little band aid.
Speaker 2: Look right, I want to tape it together.
Speaker 4: I'm going to tape it together.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm glad that you went there, because now it
Speaker 3: makes more sense to me. Why it's why you don't
Speaker 3: see as much affordable housing going up, Why all these
Speaker 3: expensive apartment buildings are going up, Because even if they
Speaker 3: wanted to go that route. It's so convoluted and costly
Speaker 3: that are incentivized to make expensive places.
Speaker 1: I still got its core. It's a good idea, but
Speaker 1: obviously there's problems.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it used to be more workable, more use.
Speaker 4: So, Matt, the best is for HUD to give federal
Speaker 4: funds to build housing units. That's it, and not say
Speaker 4: low income or market will adjust itself. If you have
Speaker 4: enough housing, you don't have to worry about low income
Speaker 4: housing or high income housing ar et cetera, or luxury apartments.
Speaker 4: It will just adjust itself. Right now, like I said,
Speaker 4: eleven hundred dollars for a basement space that should not
Speaker 4: even be as occupied space that should not even be
Speaker 4: on the market. But because of the scarcity and the
Speaker 4: low inventory, it becomes an issue. And that's why the
Speaker 4: and then the landlords are keeping whatever units are there.
Speaker 4: People keep raising the prices, and that's where the corporate
Speaker 4: landlords come in. They come in, they buy up a
Speaker 4: whole apartment complex, multiple complexes, and Blackstone is known for
Speaker 4: doing that. Black Rock is for doing it. And we're
Speaker 4: not gonna say a certain person owns what. We're not
Speaker 4: gonna Okay, we're not going to go there, Jen another day, Yeah,
Speaker 4: cover up some state apparently was on the board.
Speaker 3: Seems to be an awful lot of politicians involved, yes,
Speaker 3: and owning stock and these companies that are making a
Speaker 3: ton of money, a ton of money, and then we're like, huh,
Speaker 3: how many And there's a lot of that here in
Speaker 3: New Hampshire. We see that corporations buying up like even
Speaker 3: that one rudout they bought like three three family houses
Speaker 3: because I've noticed their signs going up on three family houses.
Speaker 2: And then they just.
Speaker 4: Little tweak Yeah, they little tweaks. They changed the stove out,
Speaker 4: they maybe put a laminate countertop, and they're like, oh
Speaker 4: now the housing, the apartment is going to be three
Speaker 4: hundred dollars more or five hundred dollars more. Suddenly, okay,
Speaker 4: now it's considered mid luxury apartments. Yes, exactly. So there
Speaker 4: are so many ways, Matt. If there's a will, there's
Speaker 4: a way. There is no will. There is no will.
Speaker 2: Now there is minimum wages seven to twenty five.
Speaker 4: Minimum wage is still seven twenty.
Speaker 2: I feel a great responsibility on that. It's awful. It's awful,
Speaker 2: And Jen, okay, not to can't run into.
Speaker 3: The apartment on seventy twenty five. You kid even eat
Speaker 3: on seven to twenty five.
Speaker 4: So, Jen, when I was we were so a lot
Speaker 4: of times people have hardships and when I there was
Speaker 4: a time in my life when we were dirt poor.
Speaker 4: So and back then the minimum wage is four to
Speaker 4: twenty five. And this is the early nineteen nineties, Yes,
Speaker 4: about nineteen nineties, mid nineteen nineties minimum wait was four
Speaker 4: twenty five. We worked seven days a week. I had
Speaker 4: a morning job, I had an afternoon job, and had
Speaker 4: an evening job seven days a week. You still, oh
Speaker 4: my god, you have read why? Oh you're just yes,
Speaker 4: And there's no health insurance, there's no job security. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: like I had a waitressing job. Okay, you know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: It's not easy. Shout out to the servers. It is
Speaker 4: easy at all.
Speaker 2: And there wing down.
Speaker 4: And the kids keep spilling the milk and you're cleaning
Speaker 4: out and then they leave you little bits of money.
Speaker 4: It is, be nice to servers. I was a server
Speaker 4: for a long time. It is. It is a cruel job. Anyways,
Speaker 4: But where was I going with this? Oh? You there's
Speaker 4: no job security and there's no health insurance. Nothing, it's
Speaker 4: just a gig labor, right, And then sometimes you're really mistreated,
Speaker 4: like I was told the bathroom had like I think
Speaker 4: something happened, and I was told to go clean it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not gonna go clean it. That's not
Speaker 4: my job. And that manager said, if you don't go
Speaker 4: clean it right now, you're fired. That's how they talk
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how they talked to you.
Speaker 4: I said, you can fire me. I was hired as
Speaker 4: a not that okay, I'm sorry. Sorry, anyone who's a janitor,
Speaker 4: my heart goes out to you. It is it is
Speaker 4: so much work. It is such hard ship, right, but
Speaker 4: it's the But the way I was being treated by
Speaker 4: the manager, like threatened to be fired right away because
Speaker 4: there's no job security, you know, And you're like, why
Speaker 4: don't you ask the others? Like I wasn't sure if
Speaker 4: I was getting picked on. I don't know if it
Speaker 4: was a race thing, but anyways, but I was being
Speaker 4: asked even though there were several other servers standing around
Speaker 4: fit anyways, who knows what was going on, but I
Speaker 4: do remember. What I remember was the way I was
Speaker 4: being treated. Listen to me, or you're fired, how cruel. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they because they.
Speaker 3: Know you need the job, right right, Yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 2: I've had my share of really crappy jobs. We'll talk
Speaker 2: about some other ways.
Speaker 3: But again, the employers could feel like they could get
Speaker 3: away with it, Yes, because what.
Speaker 2: Are you going to do? You need the more you got.
Speaker 2: You can't go home without a paycheck.
Speaker 4: I can I touch on one thing Matt said earlier,
Speaker 4: but we have moved on from health care. But I
Speaker 4: wanted to touch.
Speaker 2: On everything you want to talk about. Go for it.
Speaker 4: Matt touched on, like we are always conditioned to feel
Speaker 4: that we still have the best healthcare system, and we
Speaker 4: have a great healthcare system, no doubt about it. If
Speaker 4: you have a certain amount of money, and you have
Speaker 4: a certain job, and your employer actually has is able
Speaker 4: to afford a high quality health insurance company. I'm not
Speaker 4: going to name it, but there are some health insurance
Speaker 4: companies which are not as blood suckers as hours.
Speaker 2: I get less blood suckery the more money you pay,
Speaker 2: and the more.
Speaker 1: Catal well, yeah, as long as you're made an asset
Speaker 1: and not a lot acid.
Speaker 4: But we're always told, oh no, don't look at this
Speaker 4: country or that country. Do you know when they need
Speaker 4: an MRI, they have to wait several months, et cetera. Right,
Speaker 4: and we're like, oh, yeah, you know what. Okay, but
Speaker 4: let's talk about that for a second, because I used
Speaker 4: to also believe in that like story line in all
Speaker 4: those countries. If you ask, I don't want to name it,
Speaker 4: but say Canada or Germany. You ask them and they
Speaker 4: will say when if somebody needs an MRI or a
Speaker 4: procedure and it's an emergency procedure, they will get.
Speaker 2: It right away.
Speaker 4: Yes, if it's a non acute care, if it's a
Speaker 4: care that can be prolonged, then they become are put on.
Speaker 4: You know, there might be two months from now. But
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. In America, even in the North Country,
Speaker 4: there are no more specialists left.
Speaker 1: Right, you need an MRI, you have to go to Boston, right.
Speaker 2: I let you go over the borders.
Speaker 4: Yes, that you might have to go to Nashars or
Speaker 4: Portsmouth or Accident or if you're insurance, Yes, so please
Speaker 4: let's talk about that, because there are the providers are
Speaker 4: leaving New Hampshire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: That's a very serious issue and the reason we don't
Speaker 3: have more level two, Level one trauma sentence.
Speaker 2: Well, level two, I should say, is because we don't
Speaker 2: have the specialties required.
Speaker 3: You have to have neurosurgery, you have to have pediatrics, trauma,
Speaker 3: you have to have those things in order to have
Speaker 3: those higher levels of care. We don't have them because
Speaker 3: we don't have the specialists. Were medical impossible. Oh, they're
Speaker 3: leaving the state in droves too, because they can't afford
Speaker 3: to practice there anymore.
Speaker 4: So therefore, when people criticize other healthcare systems, say please, people,
Speaker 4: come on, come on, go on. Wait wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 4: let's look what's going on in our state. When people
Speaker 4: need care, they're having to leave our state and go
Speaker 4: to Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: Right now, it took me a year to get into
Speaker 3: my neurala just I was on the waiting list for
Speaker 3: a year to go into my neurology. Those other stories,
Speaker 3: so they're right here, right here.
Speaker 1: So yes, that's always my that's always my first thought
Speaker 1: when I hear someone say, well, you know, in such
Speaker 1: and such country, you have to wait, you can't you know,
Speaker 1: get everything right away. And it's like, so, how is
Speaker 1: that any different from what we have here.
Speaker 3: In the unit. One of those I will admit I
Speaker 3: was one of those people that bought into that. I
Speaker 3: really did think that day rationed care in Canada and
Speaker 3: that must be why. And I started having those conversations
Speaker 3: with people, going, no, if my leg's broken, they're gonna
Speaker 3: fix it.
Speaker 2: They've got to do an MRI. Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, if I have something and I could, you know,
Speaker 3: it might you might have to wait for it.
Speaker 2: But we do that here. You might have to wait.
Speaker 2: When you get scared for an MRI around here, you
Speaker 2: might be waiting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't instantly, and even in an emergency, you
Speaker 3: don't necessarily. I got sent in for what they thought
Speaker 3: could be bad. Then they actually finally got around to
Speaker 3: the image. I was like, this close to be in
Speaker 3: a really bad situation with three cervical discs in the
Speaker 3: most final cord. But I waited way too long to
Speaker 3: get that MRI walking around like that here in good
Speaker 3: old America. I beg you, I might have gotten it
Speaker 3: faster in Canada.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna my husband is walking in, so I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna ask him to keep it low. I just texted him, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: we're we're alive right now. But let's see Okay, So
Speaker 4: we touched on healthcare. We touched on housing. We touched
Speaker 4: on corruption. I think we touched a little bit on
Speaker 4: corruption everywhere, right, the corruption politics, the big money in him. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we touched, so we are. I don't know what else
Speaker 4: you guys want to talk about, Matt. I mean, there's
Speaker 4: so much going on in the I talked to two people.
Speaker 4: They're twenty four or twenty five in New Hampshire. There working,
Speaker 4: they're on their parents' insurance. They're free to turn twenty six. Yes,
Speaker 4: let's talk about that in the richest in the world,
Speaker 4: which I'm going to become like a broken record in
Speaker 4: the richest country in the world, in the richest country
Speaker 4: in the world, I'm going to become a broken record.
Speaker 4: Person who has an education, you know, has training and education,
Speaker 4: has done whatever needed to be done. Was told if
Speaker 4: you do X y Z, you will live the American dream.
Speaker 4: They are now apparently living the American dream. And they're
Speaker 4: free to turn twenty six because they have a job.
Speaker 4: But their jobs are not covering, not providing health insurance.
Speaker 4: That's another thing. Let's talk about that in America.
Speaker 3: And the marketplace is expected to go up increasingly next year.
Speaker 3: Some of the numbers I'm saying out there are pretty
Speaker 3: scary as so what's going to happen in the marketplace? Insurances, medicare,
Speaker 3: premiums are growing up, but they've already announced that it
Speaker 3: was quite a bit too. Yeah, all these things are
Speaker 3: going up even more next year. So everything you're saying
Speaker 3: is going to get worse. So we gotta do These
Speaker 3: mid term elections are vital in order for us to
Speaker 3: gain control on the hell and stop the bleeding and
Speaker 3: curb some of the deaths that are going to occur
Speaker 3: from these These are I'm not catastrophizing either.
Speaker 2: These are really horrible things that.
Speaker 3: Are going on, and I'm worried that a lot of people,
Speaker 3: it's going to be millions and millions of people that
Speaker 3: are going to lose health insurance sex here because they're
Speaker 3: not going to be able to afford it off the
Speaker 3: marketplace anymore.
Speaker 2: Right, It's just gonna be because.
Speaker 3: Those tax subsidies for the working class, the current regime
Speaker 3: has gotten rid of infect sending the ones for the
Speaker 3: one percent that holds all the money in the country.
Speaker 2: When you talk about the.
Speaker 3: Richest in the world, the most of the money is
Speaker 3: that one percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just going to say, in effect, they
Speaker 1: have repealed the affordable care, just not the way they
Speaker 1: wanted to. They didn't do it all at once like
Speaker 1: they wanted to do a show of it. But little
Speaker 1: bit by bit they've gotten it.
Speaker 3: They've got the publics used to admit there was some
Speaker 3: good stuff in They're like staying on the insurance until
Speaker 3: you're twenty six.
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember when I turned eighteen. That was it.
Speaker 3: I had no health care, that was it because back
Speaker 3: in what I back in my day. But I remember
Speaker 3: you saying about the minimum When I started my first
Speaker 3: health care job, I made three dollars an hour and
Speaker 3: I got a ten cent raise when I became certified
Speaker 3: as a nursing assistant. And you think about that, and
Speaker 3: it's seven twenty five now for minimum wage. And it's
Speaker 3: because we in New Hampshire screwed up. We got rid
Speaker 3: of our own minimum wage and we married ourselves to
Speaker 3: the FED. So unless the federal minium wage changes or
Speaker 3: the State of New Hampshire does something different, our minimum
Speaker 3: wage will never rise above seven to twenty five. And
Speaker 3: in some of the poorest places in this country, that's
Speaker 3: what people are barely living on.
Speaker 4: And I've met people who make seven twenty five because
Speaker 4: a lot of times the lawmakers in New Hampshire will
Speaker 4: say nobody in New Hampshire makes seven twenty five. Everyone
Speaker 4: makes fifteen or sixteen because of the McDonald's jobs. No
Speaker 4: people in New Hampshire. Some of them do make seven
Speaker 4: twenty five, and I've talked to them. Jen eighty is
Speaker 4: heartbreaking when they get a little bill like twenty five
Speaker 4: dollars bill which was not expected. My god, that's like
Speaker 4: what it's definitely.
Speaker 2: Here's something I want to ask you about. So in
Speaker 2: what that effects is homeless people. People who are unhoused
Speaker 2: a lot of people who are unhoused have jobs.
Speaker 3: They can't afford a place to live, so they're living
Speaker 3: in their car or maybe they were living in a tent.
Speaker 2: But now we've criminalized.
Speaker 3: Being unhoused and now they want to arrest people and
Speaker 3: put them in jail for being homeless or having a
Speaker 3: mental health issue. Like, how are you going? This is
Speaker 3: a huge issue? How do you want to how do
Speaker 3: you plan to address this?
Speaker 4: So first of all, we have to take away Donald
Speaker 4: Trump's pens that he keeps signing those executive orders. Somebody
Speaker 4: take those pens away, please, he keeps signing these insane
Speaker 4: executive orders that are so cruel. Yeah, we have not
Speaker 4: been kind to our most vulnerable people. We have not
Speaker 4: been kind to people who have mental health issues. We
Speaker 4: have not been kind to our veterans, we have not
Speaker 4: been kind to people who are suffering from substance use
Speaker 4: disorder people. And a measure of a society is how
Speaker 4: you treat your most vulnerable. And we are failing over
Speaker 4: and over again. And we should not look at these
Speaker 4: people as you know, push them aside. No, these are
Speaker 4: human beings. They are down on their luck for many reasons,
Speaker 4: and we we should extend help them again. Housing where
Speaker 4: was it Norway one of those Scandinavian countries. I was
Speaker 4: reading that they actually try to instead of allow homeless
Speaker 4: people like to fend for themselves and you know whatever,
Speaker 4: however just pushing them under the rug. They actually have
Speaker 4: these housing models where they provide mental health counseling as
Speaker 4: well as a stable home, and then they allow and
Speaker 4: treatment and then they slowly over time, because once you've
Speaker 4: been homeless for five ten years, you've basically checked out.
Speaker 4: You have no no, the trust is gone. If you
Speaker 4: know why homeless people you see them on the side,
Speaker 4: why they're sleeping in the morning and the daytime, because
Speaker 4: at night they're awake. They're awake to protect themselves. That
Speaker 4: is the most where you're the most vulnerable at night
Speaker 4: if you want to sleep, so you don't sleep at night.
Speaker 3: That's why you're so glad you said that, because a
Speaker 3: lot of people look at them and think, oh, they
Speaker 3: must be drunk or they must be drunk. Now it's like, nah, dude,
Speaker 3: this is the safest sleep they can get.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I never thought of that. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty empathetic, but that never even occurred to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so we have to help. I mean, if
Speaker 4: we apparently have two hundred million dollars for a ballroom,
Speaker 4: if we have a billion or a plane that's not
Speaker 4: going to be even ready for four years. We have
Speaker 4: tillions of dollars. Apparently we are so rich. We can
Speaker 4: give trillions of dollars of tax cuts.
Speaker 2: To the patio, the rose garden, we.
Speaker 4: Can pave the rose garden, we can spend a military parades,
Speaker 4: military parades, and we have so much that we can spend,
Speaker 4: like we can fabricate stories about crime on our streets
Speaker 4: and send in the National Guards at a huge cost
Speaker 4: to the taxpayers. Apparently we are such a rich nation
Speaker 4: but not but not. Apparently we're also not a rich nation.
Speaker 4: So which what is true? Which one is it? Do
Speaker 4: we have a billion for somebody's plane?
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, we're retrofitting a Saudi Arabian plane.
Speaker 2: Let ye take it.
Speaker 3: And that's after his last term when he redesigned the
Speaker 3: existing air force one that was just finished.
Speaker 2: But we can't house people, but we can't provide mental health.
Speaker 4: No, I mean that's one trip alone. Not to just
Speaker 4: pick on the million dollar trips, because there's so much
Speaker 4: billions of dollars at getting wasted. So millions of dollars
Speaker 4: is like loose change now in the US government. But
Speaker 4: he went to it wasn't some golf course in Botlin.
Speaker 2: To cut the ribbon on his own golf course.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's apparently we were really rich.
Speaker 2: Jen I'll tell you something.
Speaker 3: When I was overseas and that stuff was going on
Speaker 3: to build it, I never wanted to climb under a
Speaker 3: chair more in my life than when the screen filled
Speaker 3: up with the Scottish family talking about how horrible Trump's
Speaker 3: people were because they didn't want to sell their land,
Speaker 3: so they were blaring music and shining lights and harassing
Speaker 3: them and trying to force them out, and I wanted
Speaker 3: to climb under a chair. I was so like, oh my, like,
Speaker 3: I'm in in this other country watching this, like.
Speaker 2: This is horrible. This is our president. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is horrible.
Speaker 1: You know, there's an episode of Uh, there's an episode
Speaker 1: of the Sopranos where Tony Soprano did something like that
Speaker 1: to make someone leave the house that they were in.
Speaker 4: Basically meant, are you saying that?
Speaker 1: No? That just reminds me of an episode of The
Speaker 1: Sopranos too.
Speaker 2: That's when I got the idea for all, you know, a.
Speaker 4: Monster, a mobster and the president. Huh you see some comparison.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if we actually had the ability in
Speaker 3: this moment to be able to snag that money back?
Speaker 2: And what amazing things.
Speaker 4: Those pens, those big markets do.
Speaker 3: See, we need you elected, and then we need the
Speaker 3: hell the Senate and the House to create legislation to
Speaker 3: curb this. This is just it shows you. I've never
Speaker 3: been a favorite. I've never been a person who likes
Speaker 3: executive orders for this very reason, for this very fear
Speaker 3: that it can be abused and previous presidents have abused it,
Speaker 3: but not that it's extreme now, I mean to use
Speaker 3: the president's pen to criminize human beings for existing in
Speaker 3: a park in a tent, because that's literally all they have.
Speaker 2: What do you want people to do?
Speaker 3: At least in other countries in India trying to do
Speaker 3: they let people build makeshift houses. They're crappy places, but
Speaker 3: at least it's a roof over their head, they got
Speaker 3: warm food and a bugal sleep that in America won't
Speaker 3: even let that happen. And now they won't even let
Speaker 3: them put up a tent, like we won't let them
Speaker 3: have a space to just exist as a human.
Speaker 4: It was heartbreaking to see there was like in DC,
Speaker 4: they were like the person would not leave his tent
Speaker 4: because that's his home, that's his livelihood, and they're dragging
Speaker 4: it off. I don't know, if you guys watch those videos.
Speaker 3: It was just seeing it here happening in our own
Speaker 3: you know, happening here where they're taking down the tents
Speaker 3: and they're forcing people out.
Speaker 2: Because yeah, that's happening right here at home too.
Speaker 3: It's happening all across the country, and they're so vile
Speaker 3: about it. Vile and they'll take knives and they'll destroy things.
Speaker 2: Well, they can't use it.
Speaker 3: That's all this person has to their name, whatever they're
Speaker 3: and you're you're stealing everything, because that's what it is.
Speaker 2: It's stealing.
Speaker 3: They're taking whatever clothing, whatever's in that tent. They literally
Speaker 3: will come down sometimes with those claws and just pick
Speaker 3: the whole thing up and drop it in a dumpster,
Speaker 3: everything that was in it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, think about.
Speaker 2: The human it's beyond dehumanizing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, so the this is where cruelty is
Speaker 4: definitely trickling down from the White House.
Speaker 1: M Oh yeah. The cruelty is the point.
Speaker 4: The cruelty is the point.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, absolutely, they love.
Speaker 2: It in the terms count big time.
Speaker 3: It's the only way that we're going to be able,
Speaker 3: but not and change anything.
Speaker 4: Not any Democrat, Jen, Not any democrat.
Speaker 3: I need a Democrat who's going to actually listen. Yes,
Speaker 3: when I tell you medicare advantage is killing people. I
Speaker 3: want you to hear our stories and really take it
Speaker 3: in and don't send me a form letter say I
Speaker 3: like medicare advantage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Jen, I need not.
Speaker 2: I can't have tone deaf. I need you to hear me.
Speaker 4: These are public service jobs. We should not put our
Speaker 4: lawmakers in pedestals and be like, wow, you know they
Speaker 4: are so great. We can never be them. This is
Speaker 4: a public service job. It is their job is to
Speaker 4: serve the public. If they're not serving the public, then
Speaker 4: please move on, go to do something else. Let someone
Speaker 4: who actually cares just serve the public. Listen to the public,
Speaker 4: understand the problems, want to solve the problems. Let them
Speaker 4: have that position. The other thing I want to tell you,
Speaker 4: one of the most important things in a public servant
Speaker 4: is do you have a heart? And do you have
Speaker 4: a soul? I mean, do you even care?
Speaker 2: You have empathy?
Speaker 4: Do you have yes? Empathy? Do you even care?
Speaker 3: And everybody want to walk around with a mirror, like
Speaker 3: what do you say when you look at this?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but guys, I don't know if we're uh going
Speaker 4: to putting people to sleep now it's one minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, for quite a while. But I really appreciate
Speaker 2: you giving me so much time.
Speaker 4: I want to because we have to talk about so much.
Speaker 4: We need to talk about the F word, the fascism.
Speaker 3: Yes, let's not beat around the bush, right, we are
Speaker 3: looking at a blief date.
Speaker 4: It is not a future. We're it's we are here,
Speaker 4: so let's talk about it. But I think I don't know,
Speaker 4: I want to let the poor listeners off.
Speaker 1: No, I think I think this is probably a good
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit over an hour, about an
Speaker 1: hour and fifteen minutes, you know, But we will definitely
Speaker 1: do this again in the near future if you like.
Speaker 1: I mean, this has been as a great conversation, Karishma.
Speaker 1: Do you want to mention your website again and anything
Speaker 1: else you want to make sure our listeners and viewers
Speaker 1: know about.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much so I launched last week. My
Speaker 4: website is actually on the you see it here.
Speaker 2: I thank you.
Speaker 4: Yes, well I would be able to do that. Karishma
Speaker 4: for Senate dot Com. Karishma for Senate dot Com. I
Speaker 4: am from Exeter, I am a scientist. I'm running to
Speaker 4: basically help people. Housing crisis is out of control, childcare
Speaker 4: crisis is out of control. Healthcare crisis out of control,
Speaker 4: and we didn't touch on it. But our foreign policy
Speaker 4: is really bad. We are now committing genocide or we're
Speaker 4: complicit in genis and Gaza. We will touch on that.
Speaker 4: It is an heartbreaking, heartbreaking situation. We are basically looking
Speaker 4: at the destruction of two million human lives. They're being
Speaker 4: tortured to death, they're being start at death, bomb to death.
Speaker 2: But we're going to.
Speaker 3: Talk well where you are a candidate for peace, and
Speaker 3: I think that's very very important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, warfare and more humanity in this world.
Speaker 4: Right, So please visit the website, please sign up because
Speaker 4: we need grassroots support. Donate. Please whatever you can afford,
Speaker 4: five dollars, ten dollars, whatever you can afford.
Speaker 2: You are not taking money.
Speaker 3: I think that's important for people to know you really
Speaker 3: are a grassroots candidate.
Speaker 2: You are not accepting pack money.
Speaker 3: And so this really is an effort of New hampshiretes
Speaker 3: who have a candidate who they want to really bring
Speaker 3: to the Senate, to bring home up to that hill.
Speaker 2: It's not really corporate.
Speaker 4: Yeah, corporate, we're not getting hurt. Yeah. And then the
Speaker 4: other thing is uh, Jen I'm actually on the board
Speaker 4: of Open Democracy Action, which was started by Grannie B. Haddeck.
Speaker 4: I am inspired by Grannydee who were walked at age
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Thanks Matt, Thanks Jen. Please uh
Speaker 4: it was a wonderful Thank you for talking about some
Speaker 4: very serious issues but we need to talk about These
Speaker 4: are difficult topics, but we need to talk about it
Speaker 4: and we have to solve the problems. So thank you
Speaker 4: so much for having me today.
Speaker 1: Absolutely we will do this again in the near future.
Speaker 1: And thanks everybody for watching or listening to this edition
Speaker 1: of Matt Connorton Unleashed AF as we call it as
Speaker 1: it is the online only edition. And Jenny, thank you,
Speaker 1: and again not Chrishna, thank you so much.
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