Los Lobos | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: Digitalmusicnews dot com. Los Lobos files dual lawsuits against Sony

0:06 Speaker 1: Music and Sony Pictures over alleged non payment of royalties

0:10 Speaker 1: from films. Now, I have not pre read this, but

0:13 Speaker 1: when you said this to me, when you mentioned that

0:15 Speaker 1: there was this news about Los Lobos, my first thought

0:18 Speaker 1: was LaBamba. Yeah, because that's what everyone thinks of. Of course,

0:21 Speaker 1: when you think of Los Lobos, you think of La Bamba.

0:24 Speaker 1: You think of not only the song obviously LaBamba, but

0:27 Speaker 1: the movie about Richie Valence. Because that's how Los Lobos

0:32 Speaker 1: in the eighties, that's how they became famous was because

0:34 Speaker 1: of that song. That's I mean, I don't know if

0:39 Speaker 1: they really even have any other mainstream Billboard Hot one

0:43 Speaker 1: hundred hit songs necessarily, but that's the one everybody thinks of.

0:47 Speaker 2: You want a quick perusal here, I'm not so sure.

0:52 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, it is in part the LaBamba soundtrack, Okay.

0:56 Speaker 2: But also it looks like there might have been a

0:58 Speaker 2: film done in Canada.

1:01 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what.

1:01 Speaker 2: There might have been another film done in Canada? Song?

1:03 Speaker 1: Oh oh in Canada. Well, let's see again. This is

1:08 Speaker 1: from Digitalmusicnews dot com. Los Lobos sues Sony Music and

1:12 Speaker 1: Sony Pictures in two separate lawsuits alleging non payment of

1:15 Speaker 1: royalties for songs featured in the films LaBamba and Desperado.

1:20 Speaker 3: Oh that's right, Okay.

1:23 Speaker 1: Desperado with Antonio Benderas. That's a that's forgot about that.

1:26 Speaker 1: That's an underrated movie. That's a really good movie.

1:29 Speaker 2: I haven't watched that in a long time.

1:30 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, that's really good.

1:33 Speaker 1: Los Angeles band Los Lobos issuing Sony Music and Sony

1:35 Speaker 1: Pictures for two separate instances, alleging the company underpaid streaming

1:40 Speaker 1: royalties for the group's recordings used in the nineteen eighty

1:44 Speaker 1: seven Richievallens biopic LaBamba and the nineteen to ninety five

1:49 Speaker 1: Antonio Banderas Western film Desperado. According to the lawsuit, which

1:55 Speaker 1: the band initially filed in California state court before Sony

1:59 Speaker 1: filed to move in to New York federal court, Sony

2:02 Speaker 1: owes a combined total of at least one point five

2:06 Speaker 1: million dollars in contractual damages. In both instances, Los Lobos

2:12 Speaker 1: accuses Sony of failing to pay royalties for the streaming

2:16 Speaker 1: use of their recordings in these two films in any

2:19 Speaker 1: country outside the US, and Canada.

2:21 Speaker 2: Okay, now, I get it.

2:24 Speaker 1: Specifically, the suit against Sony Music Entertainment focuses on unpaid

2:30 Speaker 1: royalties for the song. I don't, uh, Kencion.

2:35 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm going to murder it if I

2:37 Speaker 2: try to say.

2:38 Speaker 3: It, Kencion del Mariachi.

2:41 Speaker 2: You're probably closer than I would have said.

2:43 Speaker 1: Maybe featured in the movie Desperado. Los Lobos alleges that

2:47 Speaker 1: neither Sony nor its imprint Milan Records have paid any

2:51 Speaker 1: streaming royalties globally for the track's use Sucker, despite its

2:57 Speaker 1: recent surge and popularity as a war out anthem for

3:01 Speaker 1: Mma fighter Ilia l Mattador, Topouria.

3:06 Speaker 2: Dopouria that explains the resurgence.

3:10 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, in that instance, the band is seeking at

3:13 Speaker 1: least half a million dollars for alleged breach of contract

3:17 Speaker 1: and requests a formal accounting of damages owed.

3:23 Speaker 3: I need to gulp of my water here.

3:25 Speaker 2: I didn't think about those coming back for streaming, like

3:30 Speaker 2: when you first brought it up. I'm like, yeah, but

3:31 Speaker 2: this was back in the eighties, right.

3:33 Speaker 3: The thing is too.

3:35 Speaker 2: Now, I didn't think about the streaming aspect. Well.

3:37 Speaker 1: The thing is, when you think about in the music industry.

3:41 Speaker 1: When you think about how complicated it gets in terms

3:45 Speaker 1: of paying royalties for publishing and all of it, performance royalties,

3:49 Speaker 1: mechanical royalties, everything that goes into it. Then take that

3:53 Speaker 1: and compound it with how complicated it gets and how

3:57 Speaker 1: complicated it's always gotten. You talk about soundtracks for films,

4:03 Speaker 1: then it gets a whole new level of complicated and

4:06 Speaker 1: and that seems to have reared its head here. So

4:10 Speaker 1: the lawsuit says, quote, despite the specific knowledge that the

4:14 Speaker 1: popularity of the recording was spiking and reaching new audiences,

4:18 Speaker 1: Sony and its affiliate imprint Milan still paid nothing nothing

4:25 Speaker 1: to Los Lobos for streaming and continues to pay nothing

4:28 Speaker 1: for streaming anywhere in the world for any time period.

4:33 Speaker 2: Because some people lead by example. Yeah, we're just going

4:36 Speaker 2: to keep using it. We're gonna ignore you.

4:39 Speaker 3: Yep. I hate that.

4:42 Speaker 2: It's not like they they didn't give them anything, nothing

4:45 Speaker 2: that one dime.

4:46 Speaker 3: That's what they claim.

4:47 Speaker 1: Wrong.

4:48 Speaker 2: You would have this music without the artists.

4:51 Speaker 3: Right, says Los Lobos.

4:53 Speaker 1: Also sued Sony Pictures and its subsidiary, Columbia Pictures for

4:57 Speaker 1: allegedly unpaid royalties stemy from the LaBamba soundtrack which features

5:02 Speaker 1: several Los Lobos covers, including Richie Vallen's LaBamba. Their version

5:07 Speaker 1: spent several weeks at number one on the Billboard Hot

5:10 Speaker 1: one hundred. I think Los Lobos did the entire soundtrack.

5:13 Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, I thought they did. Yeah, I

5:16 Speaker 3: think that's I'm I'm.

5:18 Speaker 2: Not surprised at all by any of this. No, not

5:24 Speaker 2: one iota.

5:26 Speaker 3: Nope, none of this is surprising. Nope.

5:30 Speaker 2: And you know what also complicates a lot of this too,

5:32 Speaker 2: is that each individual state has its own laws as

5:36 Speaker 2: far as like right of succession, somebody passes away who

5:40 Speaker 2: owns it right. So it gets even more convoluted when

5:45 Speaker 2: you look at the fact that not only is it

5:48 Speaker 2: so grotesquely full of crazy contracts whatever federal laws, but

5:54 Speaker 2: each individual state laws and where it signed matters.

6:00 Speaker 3: That is true, That is true.

6:02 Speaker 2: It kills me. The Lobama was so long ago that

6:05 Speaker 2: they'd have to fight for that money.

6:07 Speaker 3: It doesn't surprise me, though.

6:08 Speaker 2: It kills me. I didn't say surprised, right, as if

6:11 Speaker 2: it kills me, it's like a classic based on the

6:15 Speaker 2: true story.

6:16 Speaker 3: You know.

6:18 Speaker 2: Ah, that's just that's just so wrong. It's always the artist.

6:22 Speaker 2: It's always the artist that's getting ripped off by these companies.

6:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, well they're the ones who get paid last.

6:28 Speaker 2: Which is so wrong. They should be the ones paid first.

6:31 Speaker 3: You know, they're they're at the end of the they're

6:33 Speaker 3: at the end of the food chain.

6:35 Speaker 2: H