Matt Connarton Unleashed 1-17-26 hour 1

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0:31 Speaker 2: January seventeen, twenty twenty six, and of course we are

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1:09 Speaker 2: you today coming up in just a few minutes, we're

1:11 Speaker 2: gonna do the world radio premiere of the new track

1:13 Speaker 2: from Grim Rock called Cast a Shadow, and then we're

1:16 Speaker 2: gonna be talking to grim he's gonna be joining us

1:18 Speaker 2: via Microsoft Teams. And then later in the show we

1:20 Speaker 2: have Adam Steglitic from the band ever Felt, who is

1:23 Speaker 2: also going to be joining us online. But right now,

1:26 Speaker 2: to open the show, we do have a world radio premiere.

1:30 Speaker 2: This is the brand new single from Kenny Truon. It's

1:33 Speaker 2: a little topical, shall we say, It's called We All

1:35 Speaker 2: Saw the Same Thing, but you are going to be

1:37 Speaker 2: hearing it here on the radio for the first time.

1:40 Speaker 2: A wmn H ninety five point three FM exclusive. Matt

1:43 Speaker 2: Connerton Unleashed presents the world radio premiere of the new

1:46 Speaker 2: single from Kenny Truon Again. This is called we All

1:49 Speaker 2: Saw the Same Thing.

1:50 Speaker 1: You are listening to wm and.

1:52 Speaker 3: H world premiere.

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5:28 Speaker 7: You would think it's nineteen thirty and twenty twenty six.

5:32 Speaker 2: This or excuse turns to reason no defending it. And

5:38 Speaker 2: now exclusively on WM and H, Matt Connorton Unleash presents

5:42 Speaker 2: the world radio premiere of the new single from grim Rock.

5:47 Speaker 2: This is called Cast a Shadow.

5:49 Speaker 1: You are listening to WM and H.

5:53 Speaker 12: World premiere.

6:12 Speaker 13: A people lies in stood in mountains, were stand flood

6:23 Speaker 13: over me in that maray. I don't min They'll be

6:32 Speaker 13: bayed sometimes, but real live away today. I grow mores.

6:46 Speaker 13: I'm just taking some of me. It cast a shadow,

6:54 Speaker 13: the spectin sulling me. It cast a shadow, movie.

8:00 Speaker 14: Grown stow.

8:01 Speaker 2: It breaks in the face and the mouths and.

8:08 Speaker 13: In all the Stars stone the shadow over me. There's

8:16 Speaker 13: no rain.

8:18 Speaker 2: I'm not fine, it's just my pain. It's on kind

8:23 Speaker 2: of you O. The cracks on the phone and all

8:27 Speaker 2: fake away. Not this taste for me? They cast a sadow.

8:42 Speaker 2: It's grads in sound of Me.

8:46 Speaker 11: They cast a saddle.

8:50 Speaker 13: What this taste on.

8:54 Speaker 11: It?

8:54 Speaker 2: Cast a saddle?

8:58 Speaker 13: It spreads this.

8:59 Speaker 4: Sound me.

9:17 Speaker 2: A shadow? Well you heard it here first. That is

9:26 Speaker 2: the world radio premiere of the new single from Grim

9:28 Speaker 2: Rock that is called cast a Shadow. And by the way,

9:31 Speaker 2: for those of you watching online, uh, you can see.

9:34 Speaker 2: I've got my grim Rock shirt on that I wore

9:36 Speaker 2: for the occasion. And let's see if we have Grim

9:38 Speaker 2: on the line with us. Grim are you there? Yes,

9:41 Speaker 2: I am, How are you hey? It's good to speak

9:43 Speaker 2: with you. I love the new song. You know, we're

9:45 Speaker 2: big fans here, of course, you know. We love that

9:47 Speaker 2: sort of garage rock vibe. That's so cool. But I

9:51 Speaker 2: think that's your best one. Yeah, that's my personal favorite

9:53 Speaker 2: so far. I really like that song a lot.

9:56 Speaker 4: Well, thank you. I actually did this one in a

9:59 Speaker 4: regular studio, you know, to give it a different effect,

10:02 Speaker 4: you know than what I normally do.

10:04 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, it's still it still captures that same

10:07 Speaker 2: sort of vibe, but I did notice just sonically, it's

10:12 Speaker 2: definitely an upgrade. Can you tell us about that because

10:14 Speaker 2: and I'm curious to to. Obviously we've talked before, You've

10:18 Speaker 2: been on the show a number of times, but for

10:20 Speaker 2: listeners who might not have been familiar with you. You know,

10:23 Speaker 2: I know from our previous conversations that your process used

10:26 Speaker 2: to be, you know, you were kind of doing it

10:28 Speaker 2: all DIY, but you did mention going to a studio

10:30 Speaker 2: this time, and like I said, it's definitely an upgrade.

10:32 Speaker 2: So yeah, tell us about that.

10:35 Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, I did all my other tracks

10:37 Speaker 4: at my home studio and the last ones I sent

10:39 Speaker 4: out the Pine Box Studios in Connecticut done for g

10:42 Speaker 4: R five. And I have a friend is named mister Bob.

10:46 Speaker 4: He runs a Rhythmhouse studios in Shylo, Pennsylvania, about an

10:50 Speaker 4: hour from my house, and I go. I used to

10:53 Speaker 4: go to his open mics, you know, when I get chances,

10:55 Speaker 4: you know, because he does them on Saturday nights and

10:57 Speaker 4: he has a studio there and it's a really nice

10:59 Speaker 4: set up and he's a really good person and he

11:03 Speaker 4: actually got a physical set of drums, micd up there

11:05 Speaker 4: and everything, and that was something I felt that I

11:07 Speaker 4: was missing in all the other tracks. While the drums

11:10 Speaker 4: sounded good, they weren't an analog set, you know what

11:14 Speaker 4: I mean. Yeah, And that was one of the drivers.

11:17 Speaker 4: You know, I wanted to go in there, do that,

11:19 Speaker 4: get to clean up the vocals, you know, things like that,

11:22 Speaker 4: and being he had that studio there and we've talked

11:24 Speaker 4: about it. I couldn't tell you how many times we

11:26 Speaker 4: talked about it. I finally committed to it. So I'll

11:28 Speaker 4: be doing the whole album there.

11:30 Speaker 2: Oh, very good. So the whole album, So you're how many?

11:33 Speaker 2: I mean, have you already started the album or obviously

11:36 Speaker 2: this I assume this track is going to be on it, right.

11:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna be the first track. That one is first,

11:41 Speaker 4: only because it bridges the gap between g R five

11:44 Speaker 4: with like faded and abyss to bring it into a

11:46 Speaker 4: familiar realm, and then I can expand from there. But

11:48 Speaker 4: it's gonna be ten tracks in the end.

11:50 Speaker 2: Oh, very good, Very good. That's a big commitment. Ten tracks.

11:53 Speaker 2: I'm always curious to know, because you know, we live

11:56 Speaker 2: in an era where you've got so many different options

11:58 Speaker 2: in terms of how you released music. You know, a

12:00 Speaker 2: lot of artists will do an EP. Uh, some will

12:03 Speaker 2: do a series of singles. It might eventually coalesce into

12:06 Speaker 2: an EP or an album, kind of the inverse of

12:09 Speaker 2: of what it was, at least when I was growing up,

12:10 Speaker 2: where it was, you know, the album comes first and

12:12 Speaker 2: then you release the singles. But uh, what what what

12:14 Speaker 2: went into your decision to to do a ten song album.

12:20 Speaker 4: Well, I've wanted to do albums before and I come

12:23 Speaker 4: up short on them, you know, with like Grim Rock

12:25 Speaker 4: Radio it was like six tracks, yeah, like five officially

12:28 Speaker 4: and that acoustic track, and you know, I kept going

12:31 Speaker 4: and I was like, man, I really want to do

12:32 Speaker 4: a whole album, and g R five was the closest

12:34 Speaker 4: I had to do a whole album with eight tracks.

12:36 Speaker 4: And I was like, you know what, I'm just going

12:38 Speaker 4: to do it this time. I'm going all out, since

12:40 Speaker 4: Ione has a studio time and you know tech, you know,

12:42 Speaker 4: detect there to be able to make it sound you know,

12:46 Speaker 4: better than what I had, and I'm just going to

12:48 Speaker 4: go for it.

12:49 Speaker 2: Have you started? I mean obviously this track, I mean

12:51 Speaker 2: technically you've started. If this track is going to be

12:53 Speaker 2: on the album, But I mean, have you started working

12:55 Speaker 2: on the other stuff yet or are you? Are you

12:57 Speaker 2: demoing or where are you in the process?

12:58 Speaker 11: Now?

12:59 Speaker 4: I have probably twenty five starter tracks to choose from

13:03 Speaker 4: and through, and I have three of them that are

13:04 Speaker 4: pretty close to completion, okay, And I plan on going

13:07 Speaker 4: in I think the twenty third of February to record

13:09 Speaker 4: track two and possibly track three depending on where I get.

13:12 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, any kind of an et I mean, obviously

13:15 Speaker 2: it's a big, Like I said, it's a big commitment.

13:17 Speaker 2: Any kind of an eta on when the album might

13:20 Speaker 2: be done and out.

13:22 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know exactly. I'm hoping it'd be before Halloween, yeah, okay, Okay,

13:27 Speaker 4: how it's kind of the target.

13:29 Speaker 11: You know?

13:29 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Now in doing it this way, uh and

13:32 Speaker 2: again it is an upgrade certainly sonically, But is it is?

13:36 Speaker 2: Is it hard? Kind of you know, you you do

13:40 Speaker 2: let go a little bit of control right when you're

13:42 Speaker 2: when you're used to doing so much of it with

13:45 Speaker 2: your own process, because everyone has their own process, and

13:48 Speaker 2: now you're you know, it is more collaborative when you're

13:52 Speaker 2: going to a studio and doing it this way and

13:55 Speaker 2: and and working with someone who can really. Obviously it's

13:58 Speaker 2: advantageous you're working as someone who's bringing out your best sound.

14:02 Speaker 2: But is it also hard to let go of some

14:05 Speaker 2: of that control or because some people, For some people,

14:08 Speaker 2: collaboration is very natural and and but some people kind

14:13 Speaker 2: of struggle with it a little bit. I mean, how

14:15 Speaker 2: was that for you?

14:17 Speaker 4: No, I'm fine with it, you know, And you know,

14:20 Speaker 4: the advice he gave me when I was in for

14:21 Speaker 4: the first session was valuable to me. You know, it

14:25 Speaker 4: really helped me out with some certain things, you know,

14:27 Speaker 4: things that I was just re loose with before. Yeah,

14:30 Speaker 4: now I had I had to have a structure with it.

14:32 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm thankful to have that kind of

14:35 Speaker 4: guidance from somebody that has the experience.

14:36 Speaker 11: You know.

14:37 Speaker 2: Oh, that's great. Did you know, like at that first session,

14:40 Speaker 2: did you think, Okay, this is where I'm going to

14:42 Speaker 2: do the album, this is this is what I need.

14:45 Speaker 4: Well, I planned on it before and okay, I just

14:47 Speaker 4: I committed to it starting with this track.

14:49 Speaker 2: Oh okay, gotcha, gotcha? Now what was it that?

14:52 Speaker 10: Uh?

14:54 Speaker 11: It was?

14:56 Speaker 2: Is it Bob Bob Arthur's Is that the guy?

14:59 Speaker 4: Yes, sir?

14:59 Speaker 2: Oh okay, Now what was it? That caused you to

15:02 Speaker 2: commit to working with him, because I assume, I mean

15:04 Speaker 2: you probably talked to or maybe not. I don't know,

15:06 Speaker 2: but you might have talked to some different engineers and

15:09 Speaker 2: producers or like like why did you decide to work

15:11 Speaker 2: with Bob?

15:13 Speaker 4: Actually I didn't talk to anybody else.

15:15 Speaker 12: Really.

15:15 Speaker 4: I've yeah, I've been at mister Bob's studio because I

15:19 Speaker 4: can said he doesn't open mic on Saturday night. I've

15:21 Speaker 4: been there a lot, like over the last couple of years,

15:24 Speaker 4: and he even had me as a as a a

15:27 Speaker 4: headliner for Halloween Show like two years ago or whatever.

15:31 Speaker 4: And we've we've talked a lot. Yeah, and I have

15:34 Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of respect for him, and

15:36 Speaker 4: he's he's genuinely a really really awesome person, you know,

15:40 Speaker 4: and it just it felt comfortable, felt natural, you know,

15:42 Speaker 4: since I've talked to him so much, and like I said,

15:45 Speaker 4: we were going to commit to before for g R five,

15:47 Speaker 4: but things kind of changed over a little bit through

15:50 Speaker 4: the course of it, and I figured now's the time,

15:53 Speaker 4: you know, I have a first set of tracks, first

15:55 Speaker 4: set of ideas. I want to get that polished sound.

15:58 Speaker 2: Do you plan to for the album? Do you plan

16:00 Speaker 2: to redo any of your earlier work or is it

16:02 Speaker 2: all going to be new stuff.

16:03 Speaker 4: It'll all be new stuff.

16:04 Speaker 2: Okay, very cool, very cool. And you said you've got

16:07 Speaker 2: you've got twenty five songs kind of you know, sort

16:10 Speaker 2: of in the queue in your mind that you can

16:12 Speaker 2: you can choose from.

16:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have I have about twenty five starters. Okay,

16:16 Speaker 4: that could be possible for this track this, you know, album,

16:21 Speaker 4: and I guess that I have two other ones ready ready,

16:24 Speaker 4: pretty close to ready to go. Yeah, I should have

16:26 Speaker 4: it finished up or you know, ready to record in February.

16:29 Speaker 2: So oh, outstanding, outstanding?

16:31 Speaker 12: Now?

16:31 Speaker 2: Is there going to be kind of a theme to

16:34 Speaker 2: the album? Is there something that's going to tie these

16:36 Speaker 2: songs together? Or are you just kind of going with

16:39 Speaker 2: with what sounds good to you, what you feel? I mean,

16:42 Speaker 2: sometimes it's a feel thing, right, you know, songs just

16:45 Speaker 2: feel right together. But sometimes there's there's a theme. What's

16:49 Speaker 2: your approach there?

16:51 Speaker 4: No, this is more going to be like a feel

16:53 Speaker 4: like g R five was. Yeah, when I put when

16:55 Speaker 4: I put together g R five, you know, the first

16:57 Speaker 4: track on the album is called Angry. I didn't do

17:00 Speaker 4: that till absolute last, and I ended up making that

17:02 Speaker 4: the first track on the album because I felt like

17:05 Speaker 4: it was a heavy I got a real quick, you

17:07 Speaker 4: know shot to the head opener, and you know, then

17:10 Speaker 4: it just kind of graduated in and then then all

17:13 Speaker 4: the songs kind of flowed and like got you know,

17:15 Speaker 4: more advanced, more you know, like a more finished feeling

17:20 Speaker 4: I think towards the end fading abyss, and I'm trying

17:24 Speaker 4: to carry that over with this track and be on.

17:26 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, Now what's the situation there as far

17:31 Speaker 2: as playing live? Have you been playing a lot of shows?

17:35 Speaker 11: I have?

17:36 Speaker 4: I kind of I played all the way about November

17:38 Speaker 4: first last year, Yeah, and I decided I was going

17:41 Speaker 4: to focus on trying to get this new album, and

17:44 Speaker 4: between the holidays and working whatever else, you know, kind

17:46 Speaker 4: of everything kind of got delayed. But you know, I've

17:50 Speaker 4: been working on it, and I was just I just

17:52 Speaker 4: played a show in a local place, conners Will, Pennsylvania,

17:56 Speaker 4: and I'm actually gonna play a second show there in March,

17:59 Speaker 4: and I I have things lined up including come visiting you.

18:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're gonna be up our way. It'll be

18:05 Speaker 2: great to meet you in person and get to see

18:07 Speaker 2: you live actually in person. That'll be a that'll be amazing.

18:10 Speaker 2: Now do we do? We know at this point exactly when? Oh, yeah,

18:15 Speaker 2: it's May thirtieth, May thirtieth, okay, outstanding, outstanding, You're gonna

18:19 Speaker 2: be playing at Terminus.

18:22 Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope.

18:23 Speaker 9: So.

18:23 Speaker 2: Yeah.

18:25 Speaker 4: Well, I had sent out my feelers and I've gotten

18:28 Speaker 4: I got a couple of different people saying, well, you'd

18:30 Speaker 4: be better off doing this club because it's more year

18:32 Speaker 4: genre of music, and ended up there, yeah, on referral,

18:36 Speaker 4: and I got an email saying, yeah, we're good to go,

18:39 Speaker 4: but it was from March thirtieth, and I was like,

18:41 Speaker 4: send em back, and I just sent an email back.

18:43 Speaker 4: I'm like, I really hope it's a typo. They're like

18:46 Speaker 4: May thirtieth. I haven't heard anything back yet, but I'm

18:48 Speaker 4: pretty sure they'll probably, I mean, if they email me once,

18:51 Speaker 4: I'm sure they'll back again. Yeah. Yeah, excited about that,

18:54 Speaker 4: you know, because it's a whole new environment to be in,

18:57 Speaker 4: you know.

18:58 Speaker 2: Oh, Terminus is a wonderful place. Yeah. And we love

19:00 Speaker 2: Eleanor and Andre good friends of ours, and Jenny and

19:04 Speaker 2: I have known them for a long time. I've known jeez,

19:07 Speaker 2: I think I've known them both for more than twenty

19:09 Speaker 2: years now. Oh my god, I'm looking at my calendar

19:12 Speaker 2: and March thirtieth is a Monday and May thirtieth is

19:15 Speaker 2: a Saturday. So I think you're right. I think it

19:17 Speaker 2: was a typo.

19:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope.

19:20 Speaker 2: And so I'm pretty sure because they don't do shows

19:22 Speaker 2: on Monday nights there. So if March thirtieth is a Monday, yeah,

19:25 Speaker 2: I'm sure she meant May thirtieth. So but but good, good,

19:29 Speaker 2: So yeah, Jenny and I are really looking forward to that.

19:31 Speaker 2: So that's that's going to be wonderful. And then now,

19:35 Speaker 2: so where are you again? For newer listeners who aren't

19:37 Speaker 2: familiar with you, where in Pennsylvania are you?

19:40 Speaker 4: I'm right around the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania area.

19:42 Speaker 2: Okay, what's the scene like there currently?

19:45 Speaker 4: The music scene, it's happening. Yeah, a lot of different

19:49 Speaker 4: places to play, especially with original music, and certain ones

19:54 Speaker 4: like the Green Beacon Gallery in Greensburg are really in

19:57 Speaker 4: tune with that. You know. Mister Fiel's a great person.

19:59 Speaker 4: He has a lot of original acts there, you know,

20:01 Speaker 4: even if they're not even established. I did my first,

20:04 Speaker 4: my very first show is grim Rock there, and boyd,

20:08 Speaker 4: I film isn't really added, but he had me back

20:11 Speaker 4: a whole bunch of times after that, so you know,

20:14 Speaker 4: I'm very thankful for him.

20:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, excellent. By the way, Let's see in the

20:19 Speaker 2: chat room here, Jenny is in there. Of course, hello,

20:23 Speaker 2: she's she's at home. She's not with me today because

20:25 Speaker 2: we're gonna be going We're gonna be doing something later

20:27 Speaker 2: that I'll I'll talk about later on the show. But

20:29 Speaker 2: Katie Michelle is in the chat room and says, we

20:31 Speaker 2: live grim Love. I do like the short albums, but

20:35 Speaker 2: go big or go home.

20:38 Speaker 4: Right, that's that's tattoo baby. That's my album cover model.

20:41 Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh yes, okay, yep, yep. She was in

20:43 Speaker 2: the she was in the chat room last time we talked.

20:45 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, very good. Let's see we have Paul

20:50 Speaker 2: some Maria the second.

20:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know him. He's he does brown Sweel Screams.

20:57 Speaker 4: He does like around the Halloween to I'm in Brownsville, Pennsylvania.

21:01 Speaker 4: He does a show that benefits the Brownswville Public Library.

21:04 Speaker 4: And I've been I've played there for and I'm going

21:06 Speaker 4: to play there this year as well.

21:07 Speaker 2: Oh, very good, very good. Yep, he says. A carnival

21:10 Speaker 2: of Screams September twelve at September twelve, twenty twenty six,

21:15 Speaker 2: at the Brownsville Free Public Library. Very good, and he

21:18 Speaker 2: also said grim is the man.

21:20 Speaker 4: Well I appreciate that. I appreciate him too, you know.

21:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very nice, very nice. What So for people

21:28 Speaker 2: looking for it, what Katie is on the cover of

21:32 Speaker 2: what Again? G R five, the last album the GR

21:35 Speaker 2: five Yep, yep, yep. I have that actually on the

21:38 Speaker 2: wall in my podcast studio at home too, so people

21:41 Speaker 2: people tuning into the podcast version of the show might

21:43 Speaker 2: see the might see the album cover. But yeah, excellent, excellent.

21:47 Speaker 2: So now in the local scene there too, like around Pittsburgh,

21:50 Speaker 2: you must I know we've talked about this before, but

21:53 Speaker 2: I mean you must really stand out right because well,

21:56 Speaker 2: first of all, so your sound is not something that

22:01 Speaker 2: a lot of people are doing. Again that's sort of

22:02 Speaker 2: it's almost like a garage rock kind of vibe, but

22:05 Speaker 2: a little dark and and but it's also visually, people

22:09 Speaker 2: who have not seen you should go online and check

22:12 Speaker 2: out what you're doing, because visually you really kind of

22:17 Speaker 2: stand out right. And I assume there's no one in

22:19 Speaker 2: the scene there who's doing quite what you're doing. And

22:21 Speaker 2: what's especially interesting about it is if you you know,

22:26 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever heard this comparison, but

22:28 Speaker 2: I kind of almost you remind me a little bit

22:31 Speaker 2: of King Diamond when I see you in your full

22:35 Speaker 2: you know, in the makeup and everything. But but it's

22:39 Speaker 2: but you don't sound like King Diamond obviously, So I'm

22:43 Speaker 2: really curious about that. Like in the scene there, where

22:46 Speaker 2: you are in your area, you must really stand out.

22:48 Speaker 2: I assume there's no one doing anything like what you're doing.

22:52 Speaker 4: There's actually there's actually some bands around here that do

22:54 Speaker 4: makeup and stuff. Are there things like that?

22:56 Speaker 15: Yeah?

22:57 Speaker 4: There is thirteen of Call to one of them. There's

23:00 Speaker 4: a band out of around the Cleveland area that does

23:03 Speaker 4: it too. I see you now. I forgot their name again.

23:07 Speaker 4: I've actually played with them at one of the shows

23:09 Speaker 4: over in Cleveland and they're fantastic too. But like thirteen

23:12 Speaker 4: O Call to Duo, you know. And so there's a

23:15 Speaker 4: lot of solo and duo people in the area, and

23:18 Speaker 4: there is a few that do you know, mass or

23:21 Speaker 4: a makeup or something, you know what I mean. So

23:23 Speaker 4: I don't completely stand out, But I think, like you said,

23:27 Speaker 4: with what shocks people. Is they seeming they expect like

23:30 Speaker 4: you know, slip knot you know, or something like that,

23:32 Speaker 4: and they don't get that. But they don't you know.

23:35 Speaker 4: But I've never had any issues with crowd with that,

23:37 Speaker 4: you know, or anything like that, So I think it's

23:38 Speaker 4: a good surprise for them.

23:40 Speaker 2: Now, that's got to be cool too, because you know,

23:42 Speaker 2: you're you're I would imagine that when you're walking into

23:46 Speaker 2: a situation where you know, you know, what people's perception

23:50 Speaker 2: is when they see you and what they're expecting, and

23:52 Speaker 2: then getting to surprise them, you know, and then having

23:56 Speaker 2: it turn out to be a pleasant surprise because your

23:58 Speaker 2: music is so good. I mean that must be very gratifying, right,

24:00 Speaker 2: that must be that must be kind of Obviously getting

24:03 Speaker 2: on stage and performing your songs is fun, but getting

24:05 Speaker 2: to kind of surprise people like that, I mean that

24:08 Speaker 2: must make it even more fun.

24:08 Speaker 4: I would imagine, Oh, it's great, you know, and I

24:12 Speaker 4: make sure that, you know, interact with people and then

24:15 Speaker 4: you know, like after after I do my sets and whatever,

24:17 Speaker 4: I you know, I let people you know, hold my

24:19 Speaker 4: guitar and two pictures with people and stuff like that,

24:22 Speaker 4: and I think it gives them an extra value to

24:25 Speaker 4: it too, you know, because it's personal and it's more personable.

24:28 Speaker 4: It's not like your favorite big league band that it's

24:33 Speaker 4: they're unaccessible, you know what I mean. And I get

24:36 Speaker 4: a lot of gratification from that, more so than actually playing,

24:39 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, to be able to connect

24:41 Speaker 4: with people.

24:41 Speaker 2: You know, I think if I were, if I were

24:44 Speaker 2: doing that, I don't know that I would have the

24:46 Speaker 2: discipline to not be tempted to just be like like

24:50 Speaker 2: before the show, meeting people before the show, just being

24:53 Speaker 2: very like er it's just trying to be it's just

24:56 Speaker 2: trying to be as dark as possible, you know. And

24:59 Speaker 2: then you know, and then of course after the show,

25:01 Speaker 2: being you know, just what like my normal self and

25:03 Speaker 2: being friendly and everything, but just trying to be like,

25:05 Speaker 2: like as dark as possible before the show, just so

25:08 Speaker 2: they're extra surprised, you know what I mean. I don't know.

25:11 Speaker 2: I think that would be fun.

25:12 Speaker 4: But then would be walking in, just walking in somewhere

25:16 Speaker 4: you've never been before. Yeah, get all the looks and everything,

25:19 Speaker 4: and I really you know, I try to feel the

25:21 Speaker 4: feel the crowd out and I don't do much mingling

25:23 Speaker 4: at the very beginning. Yeah, you know, but I know

25:25 Speaker 4: you you know, we're the owner or whoever. Yeah, And

25:28 Speaker 4: I think I think that gives a little bit of

25:29 Speaker 4: a an element of they don't know what to expect.

25:32 Speaker 4: And then I go on, then I go out, you

25:34 Speaker 4: know and talk to people.

25:35 Speaker 2: So, right, does something change uh for you mentally when

25:40 Speaker 2: you when you put up everything on and you're all,

25:43 Speaker 2: you know, kind of in your in your character, so

25:45 Speaker 2: to speak, if that's the right way to put it, Like,

25:47 Speaker 2: do you feel different? I've often heard you know, my

25:50 Speaker 2: my all time favorite band, regular listeners know this is Kiss,

25:53 Speaker 2: And I've often heard like Geene Simmons talking about putting

25:55 Speaker 2: on the makeup and just feeling like a completely different

25:57 Speaker 2: entity almost, you know, like like do you experience anything

26:01 Speaker 2: like that?

26:02 Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, I mean I feel like I'm a completely

26:04 Speaker 4: different person. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's to me, it's

26:08 Speaker 4: uncovered up and you don't know who I really am,

26:10 Speaker 4: you know what I mean kind of thing you get

26:11 Speaker 4: to I get to portray something maybe larger or greater

26:15 Speaker 4: than I normally, would you know what I mean? Because

26:17 Speaker 4: if I I mean, I do some I do some

26:19 Speaker 4: like local open mics or whatever, sometimes not painted and

26:22 Speaker 4: it just doesn't have the same effect. Yeah, you know

26:25 Speaker 4: it is when I'm painted and I'm in front of people,

26:27 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I get to open

26:29 Speaker 4: up a little bit more and just be a little

26:30 Speaker 4: bit more in a character, you know, more than anything.

26:33 Speaker 2: So so you do occasionally do shows where, like you said,

26:36 Speaker 2: if it's an open mic, you're not you know, I

26:39 Speaker 2: can see where it would be in a situation like that,

26:41 Speaker 2: maybe you don't want to put everything on right.

26:45 Speaker 4: I mean, you go and you play like two or

26:46 Speaker 4: three songs. I mean it's not you know, I mean,

26:49 Speaker 4: I mean I probably should, but I usually don't when

26:51 Speaker 4: it comes to something like that.

26:52 Speaker 2: You know, No, that's understandable. And then so when you

26:57 Speaker 2: play live, what happens? Is it just you? Or do

26:59 Speaker 2: you ever?

27:00 Speaker 9: Uh?

27:01 Speaker 2: Do you ever have anyone play with you? Do you

27:03 Speaker 2: have a band? Or how does that work? What's what's

27:05 Speaker 2: the uh sort of the the setup there for you?

27:10 Speaker 4: I'm all solo. I don't have a band. I have

27:13 Speaker 4: backing tracks minus all guitars and all vocals. Yeah, that

27:16 Speaker 4: way you know that I'm actually playing and singing because

27:20 Speaker 4: you know, especially with the guitars, when it gets to

27:22 Speaker 4: the lead solos and stuff. Everything falls out from behind

27:25 Speaker 4: it because you know, on the recording you have the

27:27 Speaker 4: backing guitar and I was playing the leads. Kind so

27:30 Speaker 4: they can see that I'm really doing it, you know

27:32 Speaker 4: what I mean. Yeah, I don't make sure you're talking

27:34 Speaker 4: between or do something a little different so they can

27:36 Speaker 4: see that I'm actually working it, you know what I mean.

27:38 Speaker 4: Not just and I always joke around, you know, because

27:40 Speaker 4: I'm in that costume, like you know, I had the band,

27:43 Speaker 4: I put a spell on them and put them in

27:45 Speaker 4: my you know player, you know what i mean kind

27:48 Speaker 4: of thing.

27:49 Speaker 2: Yep, yepre are other musicians generally accepting of what you

27:54 Speaker 2: do in terms of that, because you know, there was

27:56 Speaker 2: a time when there was a little bit of a

27:58 Speaker 2: stigma using technlogy to sort of almost create a live

28:04 Speaker 2: band while you're playing, you know, But I feel like now,

28:08 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, especially on this show, I'll tell you,

28:10 Speaker 2: we've talked to so many people who just, you know,

28:13 Speaker 2: they want to have a big sound, but they don't

28:15 Speaker 2: want to deal with everything that goes into having a

28:18 Speaker 2: band and having to coordinate things and rehearse with other

28:23 Speaker 2: humans and everything, And it's just easier to do a

28:25 Speaker 2: solo thing, but they don't necessarily want to just do

28:28 Speaker 2: a solo acoustic singer songwriter thing either. They want to

28:31 Speaker 2: have that band vibe. So I feel like, just broadly,

28:36 Speaker 2: there's a lot less stigma attached to that than there

28:39 Speaker 2: would have been at one time. But I'm curious how

28:42 Speaker 2: how that's been for you. Does anyone ever give you

28:45 Speaker 2: a hard time about doing what you do without a band?

28:48 Speaker 2: Or are people generally accepting or not even so much

28:52 Speaker 2: audience members but other musicians, How do people react to it?

28:56 Speaker 4: I've never had any problem with that, you know, And

28:59 Speaker 4: I think it's a lot more, like you said, widely

29:01 Speaker 4: accepted because of the day and age we're in. Because

29:04 Speaker 4: had I did this twenty years ago, I would have

29:06 Speaker 4: never got a show or I got canned on this age,

29:08 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Yeah, But I think now

29:11 Speaker 4: the way everything is and everything's more streamlined and how

29:14 Speaker 4: technology is more involved with it, you know, I think

29:17 Speaker 4: it's a lot more acceptable. And I've never had, like

29:18 Speaker 4: I said, any issues with any of the bands that

29:20 Speaker 4: I've played with, whoever, if anything, you know, I'm an

29:23 Speaker 4: easy quick tear out, you know, set up and tear down,

29:26 Speaker 4: you know what. I mean, so given somebody else more time,

29:28 Speaker 4: or I don't need as much time to do all

29:31 Speaker 4: the stuff, you know what I mean, it's just sound check,

29:33 Speaker 4: the backing tracks, sound check, the guitar, soundcheck, the microphone.

29:36 Speaker 4: I'm ready to play.

29:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's a great point too. Whoever is on

29:39 Speaker 2: after you at these shows probably loves you because you

29:44 Speaker 2: don't have, like, you don't have a drummer up there

29:47 Speaker 2: with a full kit and who's gonna take, you know,

29:49 Speaker 2: twenty minutes to tear down and all of that, and

29:52 Speaker 2: you know, you're you're you're just you know, yours. It

29:55 Speaker 2: sounds like yours is pretty easy, So that must be

29:58 Speaker 2: nice for so. Actually, so a lot of musicians you

30:00 Speaker 2: play with probably really appreciate you. They probably like being

30:03 Speaker 2: on a show with you because, you know, because I

30:07 Speaker 2: I don't do it anymore, but I used to play

30:09 Speaker 2: in bands, and I just, you know, sometimes the frustration

30:12 Speaker 2: of you know, when you're waiting to go on stage

30:15 Speaker 2: with your band and the previous band is taken forever

30:18 Speaker 2: to tear down, and it's like, oh, you know, but

30:22 Speaker 2: but you obviously don't have that problem. I'm sure. I'm

30:25 Speaker 2: sure a lot of bands appreciate that.

30:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I don't have a problem with that. A

30:28 Speaker 4: lot of times too. They'll they'll be able to sit

30:31 Speaker 4: their full kids up and everything, yep, while I'm putting

30:33 Speaker 4: my stuff together, and they'll have it all ready to

30:35 Speaker 4: go by the time I'm sound checked. Yeah, or at

30:37 Speaker 4: least mostly all together. So the heavier equipment they're already

30:41 Speaker 4: have wheeled up there, so they're they're a lot closer

30:43 Speaker 4: to gets you know, sound check than they would if

30:45 Speaker 4: I had people that had to tear down too. So

30:47 Speaker 4: I'm sure they do appreciate that.

30:49 Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt, no doubt. Does anything ever go wrong,

30:53 Speaker 2: you know, because again when you're using technology. Obviously technology

30:56 Speaker 2: enhances everything that we do, but with technology things can

31:00 Speaker 2: go awry. Sometimes anything ever goes wrong in a live show.

31:05 Speaker 4: I have little quirks every once in a while, you know,

31:07 Speaker 4: because of the backing tracks are on a tablet, I

31:09 Speaker 4: don't have a way to actually physically like like a

31:12 Speaker 4: footpetal or anything to start stopping. Oh okay, And plus

31:15 Speaker 4: I have to go through and like if I have

31:17 Speaker 4: a depending on the crowd how their mood is, I

31:20 Speaker 4: might skip around. So sometimes I'll hit the button and

31:24 Speaker 4: it won't shut off and it'll start the next track

31:26 Speaker 4: by accident or yeah, you know, or I'll something will

31:29 Speaker 4: happen like that. You know. I've had it to where

31:31 Speaker 4: my tablet and I didn't realize this when I first

31:33 Speaker 4: got my tablet. I had everything set up and I

31:34 Speaker 4: went into a play I think it was Brandy's Basement

31:37 Speaker 4: in Irwin, and the track played fine, but then it

31:40 Speaker 4: kept repeating the first track, and I'm like, what the

31:41 Speaker 4: heck's going on with this? And here I just all

31:43 Speaker 4: I need to do is restart the tablet. Yeah, but

31:46 Speaker 4: I ended up tearing down to give the next people,

31:48 Speaker 4: you know, a thing until I could troubleshoot it, you

31:50 Speaker 4: know what I mean. By the time I just I

31:52 Speaker 4: borroted somebody's acoustic consisted a quick acoustic set, you know,

31:54 Speaker 4: so it wouldn't be a waste of their time to

31:56 Speaker 4: waste my night, you know.

31:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, oh that's cool. Yeah. How do sound guys

32:01 Speaker 2: react to that?

32:04 Speaker 11: Uh?

32:04 Speaker 4: I think they are all right with that because my

32:08 Speaker 4: I run through a d I box that can be

32:11 Speaker 4: active or passive, so and I have an internal pre

32:16 Speaker 4: amp in there too, so it will convert all that

32:18 Speaker 4: stuff over and I can kind of give them what

32:21 Speaker 4: kind of signal they want, just like you would for

32:22 Speaker 4: a guitar amp. And I think it's a lot easier

32:25 Speaker 4: to tailor with with the box that I got, you know.

32:28 Speaker 2: So yeah, now, before before you were doing this project

32:34 Speaker 2: grim Rock as you know, just a solo act, were

32:38 Speaker 2: you in bands or what was what was your experience

32:41 Speaker 2: leading up to leading up to the grim.

32:43 Speaker 4: Rock os and bands? A long time ago? I did

32:47 Speaker 4: some you know, I played cover bands, I played you know,

32:50 Speaker 4: original stuff.

32:52 Speaker 11: You know.

32:52 Speaker 4: I actually went to a studio in Pittsburgh called Audiomation

32:55 Speaker 4: Studio at one time to record tracks with the band

32:57 Speaker 4: from a local area. You know, I've done all kind

33:01 Speaker 4: of different things, and I just kind of gave it up.

33:04 Speaker 4: And a buddy of mine, Mark Kushak, he actually brought

33:07 Speaker 4: me out of musical retirement and I actually did a

33:09 Speaker 4: small project with him called The Model with Cage right

33:11 Speaker 4: before Grimrock, and actually the first three tracks from the

33:17 Speaker 4: first Grimrock EP with the last three tracks that we

33:19 Speaker 4: did together as the Model with Cage, So it kind

33:21 Speaker 4: of rolled over, okay.

33:24 Speaker 2: And then what was it that caused you to start

33:28 Speaker 2: the grim Rock project and to do it on your own?

33:30 Speaker 2: I mean, were you just tired of you know. And again,

33:34 Speaker 2: as someone who's been in bands, I know the struggles.

33:37 Speaker 2: Were you tired of being in a band with other

33:39 Speaker 2: people or did you just want to do something different

33:43 Speaker 2: or what was kind of the genesis of Grimrock?

33:46 Speaker 4: Well, we kind of I kind of felt like the

33:48 Speaker 4: music was good, but we couldn't get any traction at

33:50 Speaker 4: all with it. Yeah, and about I don't know, it

33:53 Speaker 4: was like fifteen months or so, we like plugged that.

33:55 Speaker 4: It plugged out and plugged at and I eventually just

33:58 Speaker 4: got frustrated with it, and I was like, look, I said,

34:00 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take a break from this for a minute.

34:02 Speaker 4: I'm gonna rebrand this whole thing, and then we're gonna

34:04 Speaker 4: see what happens, you know what I mean. Yeah, And

34:06 Speaker 4: I ended up and I ended up coming up with

34:08 Speaker 4: the grim rock thing, And believe it or not, for

34:11 Speaker 4: about eleven months, I was sending stickers out everywhere, selling

34:14 Speaker 4: T shirts, sending bandanas out, all with a promise of music.

34:19 Speaker 4: Like I didn't even have any music set up for

34:21 Speaker 4: this yet for eleven months. And a buddy of mine,

34:23 Speaker 4: Mike Susi, came over one day and he was like,

34:25 Speaker 4: He's like, you have the greatest scam going on in

34:27 Speaker 4: your life right now. He said, you're you know, you

34:29 Speaker 4: got this band, you're promising this music, and you don't

34:32 Speaker 4: even have to put it out there. People are still

34:33 Speaker 4: buying your stuff. And then I got nervous, you know,

34:36 Speaker 4: I was like, well, you know, I might put something

34:38 Speaker 4: out and they're gonna be like let down, like it's

34:40 Speaker 4: gonna stink or something. You know, but it really did.

34:43 Speaker 4: It picked up a lot better that way, you know.

34:46 Speaker 2: So do you feel like that was that was an

34:50 Speaker 2: advantage for when the music when you did start to

34:52 Speaker 2: release music that you kind of you know, because that's

34:56 Speaker 2: a long Excuse me, that's a long runway right to

35:00 Speaker 2: getting to where you're actually putting out music the way

35:02 Speaker 2: you did it by by so so early, already kind

35:07 Speaker 2: of building the image and the marketing and the you know,

35:11 Speaker 2: all all of that. I mean, that's a that's a

35:15 Speaker 2: really interesting approach, and I didn't realize it. Again, you've

35:17 Speaker 2: been on the show a number of times we've talked.

35:19 Speaker 2: I didn't realize how far in advance you started really

35:23 Speaker 2: sort of developing grim rock as a concept before you

35:27 Speaker 2: actually started releasing music. That's really interesting, but it sounds

35:30 Speaker 2: like it sounds like it worked out well for you.

35:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was I was wanting to build

35:36 Speaker 4: a brand, yeah, identity and something they can recognize. That

35:40 Speaker 4: logo that's on a T shirt. People can see that

35:43 Speaker 4: and it's different. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah,

35:45 Speaker 4: when they look at they look at my picture and

35:47 Speaker 4: they see the pain, it's different. Yeah, and they can

35:49 Speaker 4: they can piece it all together.

35:51 Speaker 11: You know.

35:51 Speaker 4: I feel like a lot easier that way. But yeah,

35:53 Speaker 4: it it took a long time for me to get to,

35:55 Speaker 4: you know, releasing the first track to where we're at now.

35:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. Now, So what's kind of the Obviously,

36:04 Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna get to see you in May

36:06 Speaker 2: at the end of May, and we're really looking forward

36:08 Speaker 2: to that. What's kind of the the trajectory right now

36:12 Speaker 2: leading up to that for you?

36:13 Speaker 3: Are you?

36:14 Speaker 16: Uh?

36:15 Speaker 2: I mean, what's your first priority is it? Is it

36:17 Speaker 2: working on the album or are you still gonna be

36:19 Speaker 2: playing a lot of shows while you're working on the album,

36:22 Speaker 2: or what's what's kind of the short term trajectory for you.

36:26 Speaker 4: It's gonna be kind of a mixed bag. I got

36:28 Speaker 4: I got some studio time scheduled and I'm gonna I'm

36:30 Speaker 4: gonna work with that. I put in for some festivals,

36:33 Speaker 4: you know, one in April that hope, hopefully i'll hear

36:35 Speaker 4: back from that. I actually played two years ago and

36:37 Speaker 4: I'm hoping I get to play again this year. And

36:39 Speaker 4: I actually put him for a festival in Connecticut for July.

36:45 Speaker 4: And just like a lot, there's like a lot of

36:48 Speaker 4: places that I just kind of I got my feelers out,

36:51 Speaker 4: and I think there's gonna be some repeat places, you know,

36:54 Speaker 4: especially this year, especially with like mister Paul. You know,

36:58 Speaker 4: it's Carnival of Screams and Stuf is gonna be a repeat.

37:01 Speaker 4: I'm hoping to play Metal Fest in Cleveland, Ohio again

37:04 Speaker 4: this year.

37:05 Speaker 2: Good. So, Yeah, festivals are the greatest thing you can do.

37:09 Speaker 9: You know.

37:09 Speaker 2: We this comes up a lot on the show too.

37:11 Speaker 2: It's like, uh because festivals not only does it get

37:14 Speaker 2: give you a chance to get in front of an

37:15 Speaker 2: audience that wouldn't otherwise see you. Uh So you know,

37:19 Speaker 2: you get that remarkable exposure because you know, people who

37:23 Speaker 2: have no idea about you will see you and and

37:27 Speaker 2: you'll make a lot of new fans very quickly. But

37:29 Speaker 2: also it's such a fantastic networking opportunity. You're going to

37:32 Speaker 2: meet so many other artists and industry people and make

37:36 Speaker 2: all kinds of connections, and you know, every time you

37:38 Speaker 2: play a festival, so it's it's great that that you've

37:40 Speaker 2: been doing them and that you're gonna do more. I mean,

37:42 Speaker 2: that's really especially with what you do again, you know,

37:45 Speaker 2: in terms of building a brand and and the visual

37:48 Speaker 2: aspect of it. That's that's great. So I'm glad that

37:51 Speaker 2: you've done festivals and then you're gonna be doing more

37:53 Speaker 2: because I I think I think it's probably the single

37:58 Speaker 2: the single best opportunity for an independent artist is to

38:01 Speaker 2: get on as many festivals as possible. That's what I think.

38:05 Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much value in that.

38:08 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there definitely is. I mean you get new

38:10 Speaker 4: groups of people, different areas, like I'm trying to get

38:12 Speaker 4: more East Coast, you know, exposure now what's coming out

38:17 Speaker 4: your way and to the Connecticut one and some different places,

38:20 Speaker 4: and you know, I'm hoping I get to go up

38:22 Speaker 4: and down the East Coast a little bit this year

38:23 Speaker 4: and just kind of broaden everything. And You're right, the festivals,

38:26 Speaker 4: you know, it was the connections and the bands and stuff.

38:28 Speaker 4: You know, you put on a pretty you put it

38:30 Speaker 4: on a decent show, you know, and you might be

38:33 Speaker 4: in that area again and another band like, oh you

38:35 Speaker 4: can hit them up, and like, hey, I'm gonna be

38:36 Speaker 4: in your area. You got anything right going on, you

38:38 Speaker 4: might be able to piggyback off that or right, you know,

38:41 Speaker 4: like in the case the case of Terminus, Hopefully you know,

38:43 Speaker 4: when I when I play there, everything goes doesn't go

38:46 Speaker 4: haywire with the electronics or anything, you know, or crazy,

38:49 Speaker 4: and I put a good show on. The next time

38:51 Speaker 4: I come up that way, hopefully maybe I can get

38:52 Speaker 4: on another one again, you know. So and and and

38:56 Speaker 4: I'm sure people will talk up there, you know, so

38:58 Speaker 4: it'll get around and be like, oh this Grimrock guy,

39:00 Speaker 4: you know.

39:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, so andus Terminus is a great place to play.

39:04 Speaker 2: It's such a cool venue. And uh Andre does a

39:07 Speaker 2: fantastic job with the sound. And you'll I think you'll uh,

39:11 Speaker 2: I think you'll really enjoy it there. So, like I said,

39:13 Speaker 2: we're looking forward to seeing you.

39:16 Speaker 4: Well.

39:17 Speaker 2: Uh So, grim Where where should people go online? Speaking

39:19 Speaker 2: of branding, where's the best place for people to go

39:21 Speaker 2: online to keep up with everything that grim Rock is

39:23 Speaker 2: doing and and to get your music of course.

39:26 Speaker 4: Well you can go to grimrocknroll dot com all spelled

39:29 Speaker 4: out Grim rock and A and d roll dot com, okay,

39:32 Speaker 4: and you can go to all my socials from there,

39:35 Speaker 4: I mean there's a video preview from YouTube. You can

39:37 Speaker 4: go to I have Apple Music, Spotify, I think Amazon

39:41 Speaker 4: Music is on there. You can hit links for those

39:43 Speaker 4: you can preview them on my website and then go

39:45 Speaker 4: to wherever wherever you have a subscription to see what

39:49 Speaker 4: my events. There's a shop on there you can get

39:51 Speaker 4: t shirts or whatever.

39:52 Speaker 2: Yep.

39:53 Speaker 4: And uh, you know, I got a press kid on there,

39:55 Speaker 4: so you know, if anybody is listening that has something

39:58 Speaker 4: out there, you can go check my press get out

40:00 Speaker 4: there too as well.

40:01 Speaker 2: So outstanding, outstanding, well Grim, thank you so much. I

40:05 Speaker 2: think we're gonna close the segment. You know, we did

40:07 Speaker 2: play Cast a Shadow and always thrilled to be able

40:12 Speaker 2: to do the radio premiere of it on the show

40:14 Speaker 2: whenever you release something new. I think we're gonna close

40:17 Speaker 2: out the segment with the first song of yours that

40:20 Speaker 2: we ever played on the show that I still love.

40:22 Speaker 2: Don't you such a great track. But for those of

40:24 Speaker 2: you listening live, we will play If you missed it,

40:28 Speaker 2: we will repeat in the second and third hour of

40:30 Speaker 2: the show today. We will play cast a Shadow again

40:33 Speaker 2: in the second and third hour. So if you missed

40:36 Speaker 2: it in the first hour at the top of the show,

40:37 Speaker 2: you will be able to hear it later. And of course,

40:39 Speaker 2: obviously it's available. I assume it's on all the streaming

40:42 Speaker 2: platforms too, right, not yet, not yet. Oh, so you've

40:46 Speaker 2: you've got to hear it here? Ah, I love it. Yeah,

40:49 Speaker 2: you got it.

40:50 Speaker 4: That's it.

40:51 Speaker 2: Fantastic, fantastic. Do you do you know? Do you have

40:53 Speaker 2: a release date for when it's going to be on

40:55 Speaker 2: the platforms yet?

40:56 Speaker 4: No, because I haven't even given it to the label yet.

40:58 Speaker 2: Oh wow, see this is even more exclusive than I realized.

41:02 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, you got it. That's it. Oh, thank

41:05 Speaker 4: you to get it to them, to get it to

41:07 Speaker 4: them now.

41:07 Speaker 2: We love it. So when I say you heard it

41:11 Speaker 2: here first, I'm not being hyperbolic. You you all are

41:14 Speaker 2: literally hearing it here first. So that's wonderful. So you

41:16 Speaker 2: know what I think I'm gonna do. I think I'm

41:18 Speaker 2: gonna play don't You to end the segment. But then

41:20 Speaker 2: I'm also gonna play cast a Shadow again right after

41:22 Speaker 2: don't You, and then of course I will repeat it

41:24 Speaker 2: in the second and third hour or two for our

41:25 Speaker 2: live listeners who might have missed it. But uh, that's

41:28 Speaker 2: that's wonderful. Thank you so much, and uh, grim Rock again,

41:31 Speaker 2: thank you, my friend. It is wonderful to speak with you.

41:34 Speaker 2: We will see you in May, and if you have

41:37 Speaker 2: another single, we you know, we might have you back

41:38 Speaker 2: on even before then, but uh, you know, time time

41:41 Speaker 2: goes fast, that's for sure. But uh, we're gonna hit,

41:44 Speaker 2: We're gonna hit don't You. But again, grim Rock, thank

41:46 Speaker 2: you so much, my friend, and we'll talk to you soon,

41:48 Speaker 2: I'm sure.

41:49 Speaker 4: Well, thank you. I really appreciate being on and and

41:52 Speaker 4: you know, being on your show, so absolutely see.

41:54 Speaker 2: You absolutely, oh same, same, all right, all right, take

41:57 Speaker 2: care of grim all right, thank you, you got it?

42:00 Speaker 2: Bye bye? All right. That is grim Rock from the

42:02 Speaker 2: great state of Pennsylvania and the Pittsburgh area. But he's

42:05 Speaker 2: gonna be up our way at the end of a

42:06 Speaker 2: and really looking forward to getting to meet him and

42:08 Speaker 2: see him live. But let's play this track. This is

42:10 Speaker 2: called Don't Sha. This is the first single of grim

42:13 Speaker 2: Rock that we ever played on the show, and then

42:15 Speaker 2: I think right after that, I'm also going to play

42:17 Speaker 2: cast a Shadow again, which is very exclusive. You can't

42:20 Speaker 2: get cast a Shadow by grim Rock anywhere at the moment,

42:24 Speaker 2: but you can hear it right here on Matt Connorton

42:27 Speaker 2: Unleashed here on WMNH ninety five point three FM. So

42:29 Speaker 2: we're gonna play both of those, but we'll start with

42:31 Speaker 2: don't You and then cast a Shadow, and there is

42:34 Speaker 2: plenty more show to come. Don't Go Anywhere?

43:10 Speaker 15: Tell me something?

43:12 Speaker 11: You know.

43:15 Speaker 13: A young man.

43:19 Speaker 11: Me no.

43:28 Speaker 13: Ways?

43:58 Speaker 11: Tell me so you know what?

44:20 Speaker 4: Not read? How going.

44:39 Speaker 11: You go? You go.

44:55 Speaker 2: To God? That is don't You. That is the first

45:35 Speaker 2: single from Grimrock that we ever played here on the show.

45:37 Speaker 2: And right now, once again, we're gonna play the brand

45:41 Speaker 2: new single. You cannot hear this anywhere else. This isn't

45:44 Speaker 2: even on the streaming platforms yet. This is absolutely a

45:47 Speaker 2: WMNH ninety five point three FM Matt Connorton Unleashed exclusive.

45:53 Speaker 2: This is cast a Shadow, the brand new single from Grimrock.

46:13 Speaker 13: A people live stood in Mountains, will stand down, flood

46:24 Speaker 13: over me in the rain. I told mine They'll be

46:34 Speaker 13: bay sometimes the realized.

46:39 Speaker 2: Ways today I grow more.

46:47 Speaker 1: Im just tell some of me.

46:51 Speaker 13: It count a shadow.

46:55 Speaker 2: It specing sun of me.

46:59 Speaker 13: They kind so.

47:16 Speaker 14: Movie h brown stone and brains in the face under

48:05 Speaker 14: mount and.

48:09 Speaker 13: Get on the star stone the shadow me. There's no rain.

48:19 Speaker 2: I'm not fine.

48:21 Speaker 9: It's just my pain.

48:23 Speaker 2: It's on.

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55:42 Speaker 1: You're listening to Matt Connorton Unleashed on wm and H

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55:56 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. This is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are

55:59 Speaker 2: live from the studios of wm NH ninety five point

56:03 Speaker 2: three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course, you

56:06 Speaker 2: can stream the show from anywhere. Go to Matt connorton

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56:11 Speaker 2: social media links, contact infosho, archives, et cetera, et cetera.

56:14 Speaker 2: It is Saturday, January seventeen, twenty twenty six. We are

56:18 Speaker 2: about to enter our number two New Marrow dose of

56:21 Speaker 2: Matt Connorton Unleashed. We've got in a moment. We're gonna

56:25 Speaker 2: play in fact, one of the tracks from the brand

56:28 Speaker 2: new ever Felt album called Stirring to Wake. We're gonna

56:31 Speaker 2: play this opening song called Epic One, and it is

56:33 Speaker 2: an epic way to open the album. And then we're

56:35 Speaker 2: gonna have Adam Steglitic from ever Felt joining us. I

56:39 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be his third or fourth time on

56:40 Speaker 2: the show, but he's gonna be joining us online. Can't

56:43 Speaker 2: wait to talk to him. I love the album. I

56:45 Speaker 2: listened to the whole thing. It's incredible. So wait to

56:47 Speaker 2: le we hear this track. It's a very very strong opener,

56:49 Speaker 2: so really cool. So we're gonna do that in just

56:51 Speaker 2: a moment. I do want to also acknowledge a couple

56:54 Speaker 2: of people in the chat room. EAZYG is in there, Hello, Easyg.

56:57 Speaker 2: Jay Bellow from the band Chasing the Uh is in

57:01 Speaker 2: the chat room. We love Jay, love that band. Maybe

57:04 Speaker 2: we'll play some Chasing the Devil a little later in

57:06 Speaker 2: the show. I'd love to play one of theirs. Can't

57:07 Speaker 2: play the newest one until I get a radio edit

57:10 Speaker 2: because it's there's a lot, there's a bad word in

57:12 Speaker 2: it that I can't take. I can't edit it myself

57:15 Speaker 2: without ruining the song. So if we get a radio

57:18 Speaker 2: edit from those guys, we'll play it for you, but

57:20 Speaker 2: I'll play one of their older ones. I love Chasing

57:21 Speaker 2: the Devil, And we have Kenny truon in the Facebook

57:24 Speaker 2: Live chat says good morning to Matt and Jenny. Kenny Truon.

57:28 Speaker 2: We played his brand new single at the opening of

57:31 Speaker 2: the show today and I will play it again later

57:33 Speaker 2: in the show. It's called we All Saw What Happened

57:36 Speaker 2: and it's it's so so good, very topical, shall we

57:40 Speaker 2: say if you missed it. I did play it at

57:42 Speaker 2: the open of the show today, but we'll play it again.

57:45 Speaker 2: We'll play it again later on in the show. Definitely

57:47 Speaker 2: worth another spin. Great great track. But right now we're

57:51 Speaker 2: gonna play this. It's the opening track from the brand

57:54 Speaker 2: new album from ever Felt called Stirring Awake. This is

57:57 Speaker 2: called Epic one. And then at the end of this,

58:00 Speaker 2: we're gonna talk with Adam Staglitic from the band ever Felt.

58:05 Speaker 2: Really looking forward to to talking with him and getting

58:07 Speaker 2: caught up. It's been a while, it's been at least

58:08 Speaker 2: a couple of years, I think, since Adam has been

58:10 Speaker 2: on the show with us. But check this out. This

58:12 Speaker 2: is called Epic one.

58:53 Speaker 4: Only to.

58:56 Speaker 10: Count, so lie long, not too dog calling, no dream

59:05 Speaker 10: nong the f soun all way, no more. Need to

59:14 Speaker 10: know