Matt Connarton Unleashed 1-18-25 hour 1

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3:23 Speaker 4: Coming, Good morning, Welcome everybody. It's that time again.

4:00 Speaker 7: At Connerton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of wm NH ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course, you can stream the show from anywhere. Go to Matt connorton dot com slash live for all of your streaming options and social media links and contact info, et cetera, et cetera. Today is Saturday January eighteen two, thy twenty five. That track that we open with that is a band called Flair. They are in Glasgow and that track is called Runaway. We're going to have them on the show soon actually, but that is the American radio premiere.

4:36 Speaker 7: You have not heard that anywhere else in the US until today. But that is such a great track and a great, great vibe. I love their sound, so really looking forward to having those guys on, So that will be soon. We've got a great show for you today. Later on we've got Nancy Maney is going to be joining us via Skype from Texas. And in the third hour today we have our friend Quincy Lord. He's going to come in and play a couple songs and he's got a brand new album, will feature some studio tracks as well, and he's just amazing, so it'll be great to see him.

5:05 Speaker 7: But right now, joining us for the first hour, we have Eleanor and Andre are here. Are back and uh, you guys must be five timers by now, right at least I believe so, I believe. So we gotta have some jackets made. Yeah, yeah, well we'll come up with something. But uh, yes from New Hampshire Underground, newly rebranded New Hampshire Underground, So welcome back. Hellos, absolutely hello, concerned everyone out there listening, Yes, yes, Uh, so, what's so, what's been going on? Actually, uh, why don't we Why don't we get caught up on New Hampshire Underground.

5:43 Speaker 7: I love the new name. It certainly rolls off the tongue much easier for me, you know, I remember I used to stumble over the old name.

5:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone says the same thing, like as soon as you say the new name, they stop and then their eyes light up and they're like, that makes so much sense. Yeah, yeah, it makes much more sense.

5:59 Speaker 7: Well also too because of Terminus Underground, so it's more it's more consistent, you know, from a branding perspective, I think so. Yeah, So, so tell us about the you know, however much you want to say about the change and the new new direction. I mean, obviously some things are the same, you know, you still have Terminus, which is an amazing venue. But but yeah, just kind of catch us up.

6:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, things are actually much more cohesive now and the vision is much clearer. So we just decided to take it in a little bit of a different direction sort of, you know, the same philosophy of really valuing the bands and supporting the bands, but providing more services to them as well. So we call ourselves now a micro entertainment complex. Oh okay, and Andre can tell you a little bit more about some of the features that we added.

6:51 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, we added a nice little I mean it's a smaller room, you know, but I mean we all know as musicians sometimes a small room can be the magic room. Yeah, because it put you write in, everybody's on top of each other, and like it puts that creative energy in the space. But at the same time, it's like a really just a lot of people can't go and afford to say, rent a room by the month that they're only going to go and maybe play two.

7:17 Speaker 7: Or three times a month, especially these days.

7:20 Speaker 8: So now it's providing a nice at least a small room that's already got a drum set in there and a mixing board pretty much a PA so you can bring in a couple of amps. There's also a couple of amps that are right there plug in. It make it really easy for people to just come in and be able to like practice a set before a show or you know, do those little gig you get to try out another musician, like oh, let's just get together and we'll try it out here.

7:48 Speaker 7: Yeah, before you have.

7:50 Speaker 1: To commit to anything.

7:51 Speaker 7: Yeah, so it makes sense. That's a nice little tool that's been added. I don't know of another place around here like that that has that kind of set up or arrangement. Maybe there isn't. I just don't know.

8:03 Speaker 1: But private places too that are sometimes will come up for rent. They're mostly occupied. But this is a nice feature because it's so hard to find a jam space that you've been rent by the hour or you know. We do it by membership as well, so if you're a member, it comes with the memberships level some of them.

8:22 Speaker 8: Yeah, so you kind of get a gym membership a music membership.

8:26 Speaker 7: Right, and you can come in and you know, if you could put you could put a weight set and a treadmill in there and kind of combine the concepts actually,

8:39 Speaker 7: and musicians are always very health conscious, so no kidding. Obviously they'll have the smoothing machine over in the corner. That could be quite a niche.

8:48 Speaker 1: Well, that's the other feature we added to is more of a musician and artist lounge area. So before it was mostly an office co working space. But I had heard someone on line, you know, is there any place I could just go and lounge that's not a bar or a coffee shop and just read a book. And I thought to myself, oh my god, that's perfect. I could open this up is just that and someone, you know, anyone could come and just read a book, or they could do some art where they can you know, work on their promotions.

9:18 Speaker 1: It is a co working space, but it's also a lounge. So now it's a musician's and artists lounge in addition to everything else.

9:26 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, excellent. Now is this has this change been fully implemented or okay?

9:34 Speaker 1: So yes, it's been fully implemented. And we're going to launch our brand reopening parties. It's Tuesday, the twenty first, Yeah, seven pm to eleven pm at one thirty four Haynes Street. So we open. We're open to the public. It's going to be an all ages event. We'll have two acoustic acts. So actually Quincy Lord, who's coming in today is one of our acoustic musicians. Excellent, Yeah, and Jesse Rhetstein is another Nashua native acoustic music. And we're going to have three artists on display in our gallery.

10:03 Speaker 1: We have Keegan my art by kf Heagan Fitzgerald. Andre is going to display some of his art and my mother who she's actually blind in one eye. She's a fashion illustrator and she's also an artist and she still paints, so we're gonna show her work as well.

10:19 Speaker 7: Excellent.

10:19 Speaker 1: That'll just be a nice way for the community to come in and see what we do and see what we have to offer the community and musicians and artists.

10:25 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, now that's great. So that's going to be Tuesday, And of course Jenny and I. You invited Jenny and I to go, so we're excited about that.

10:33 Speaker 1: We can't wait to see you.

10:34 Speaker 7: So Tuesday, starting at seven pm. Jesse Ratstein is that I'm not familiar with him. He's a Nashville guy.

10:41 Speaker 1: He's a Nashville kind of more on the rock, rock and roll kind of style. And yeah, we met him, well, I think Andre's known him for a little while, but I met him last year and he performed my fourth of July Veterans event and it was awesome. He's a great musician, great person.

10:58 Speaker 7: Very cool, very cool.

11:00 Speaker 1: He'll be enjoyable to you.

11:01 Speaker 7: And then are you already booking shows for Terminus for the for the new year. Yeah, yeah, we're already in that process and definitely.

11:12 Speaker 1: It's a big process.

11:13 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we.

11:14 Speaker 8: Pretty much have like the show dates and everything that we've been you know, talking about all the way into the gumber, like the genre, like the what we want to do, and now it's a matter of reaching out to all the bands.

11:27 Speaker 1: That are to all one nine bands who submitted your epks.

11:31 Speaker 7: Or otherwise I excellent.

11:32 Speaker 8: So we'll be throwing out dates at bands because as you know, I mean, it's like we also try to curate the shows to an extent, you know. I mean it's nice to have a nice mixed media show or or a mixed genre show sometimes, but it's also nice to have a nice focused show on, like whether it's a metal night or a gothy night or a punk night. Yeah, like sometimes people appreciate those having a little bit more of a theme to itself.

11:57 Speaker 1: We'll be doing more themed events this here, because we feel like that's very fun and there's a need for it and there's certainly a draw for it. So we're starting on three point thirty with our Night of the Fools event, okay, which is kind of you know, fun, like you know, if you're a juggalo, if you're a clown, if you're a Fool if you want to just you know, come out and have some fun with people that dress up like Gesters. It's a night of music with Sunset Electric, which is also Quincy Lords and dog Eate Dog is going to grace us with their presence, and Questing Beast is going to come back on this stage excellently excited.

12:31 Speaker 1: And that is kind of a little bit more of a variety, a little mix up, but it's Night of the Fool, so it's meant to be like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then the next one after that will be somewhat of a punk rock metal masquerade. Yeah, okay, that'll be in April twelfth.

12:45 Speaker 7: Okay. Cool. As you look back on twenty twenty four, are there are there shows Terminus shows that really stand out for twenty twenty four where you know, either either because they just they were just really really good good performances, or maybe surprises or maybe things that uh like maybe you add crowds bigger than you expected for shows or anything like that, Like what what stands out for the past year.

13:16 Speaker 8: There's for me, I feel there are about definitely three of them that stood out. Yeah, one was Green Jello, Green Jelly or Green jelly.

13:31 Speaker 7: Jelly the air apparently, well it doesn't matter at this point. I understand whoever makes jello doesn't.

13:38 Speaker 8: But that was just I mean, that was crazy intense of anticipation of what is what's going to happen here?

13:46 Speaker 7: Yes?

13:46 Speaker 1: Yes, you know, could we handle it?

13:49 Speaker 7: Yeah?

13:49 Speaker 8: With our small and surprisingly it went over like it was just an nutty night, Like to see the amount of those blow up on creatures all over the place, the insane amount pool noodles in the room.

14:10 Speaker 1: Express.

14:11 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that in itself was a really good night. The night Geary came up and place it was another great night.

14:22 Speaker 7: So but yeah, that that was. And then trying to think, oh, Vigil, I wish I could get the guttural that Dave does.

14:37 Speaker 1: But Vigil is one of my favorites.

14:40 Speaker 7: Yeah, there there, I haven't I haven't had a chance to see them live yet, but you will. They were. They were great on the show when they came in and and had a vinyl final record, which was really cool for sure. Yeah, is that the Is that the third one you were thinking of?

14:55 Speaker 9: It was not.

14:55 Speaker 7: It was the one that the one that HATI hate.

14:59 Speaker 1: Oh yes from New York.

15:01 Speaker 8: Oh yes, those guys. Those guys completely brought it to Yeah, I'm not familiar with them, and that was a great night. Like musically, sonically it was.

15:09 Speaker 1: Just like, yeah, they're a metal band. We have a nice metal connection with Rick Horton up at Metal Onslaught Radio up in Upstate New York. So the whole Ithaca area in Upstate New York is a phenomenal metal scene, very tight knit, well coordinated. Everyone supports each other. And Rick had gotten in touch with me Haitians on tour. They're like a post metal band, okay, and they want to play Terminus And they were one of the first like outside of our you know, local venues or local bands that contacted us.

15:39 Speaker 1: And yeah, they brought their a game. They were wonderful people. And that's the kind of people we consistently get at Terminus. We get nice, kind, wonderful artists and musicians that we just end up loving and calling part of our family.

15:54 Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, has there been anybody who you weren't expecting them to necessarily bring a lot of peace people and then it wound up being a sold out show or anything like that, any fun surprise like that where you go, wow, I didn't expect this to be as successful as it is,

16:11 Speaker 7: I mean.

16:12 Speaker 1: All of them. To me, success is relative, like success doesn't mean numbers to me. Yeah, that's the problem with this world, in my opinion, in the industry, is that numbers mean so much to everybody all the time that they lose sight of what we're trying to do here. And for us, it's trying to support the music scene, right. And we just had this conversation because I have a new intern. Her name is Simsir, and she's extremely good and extremely perceptive, and one of her conversations with me was, you know, what about the people that bring in low numbers, and you know, we we should always make sure that we have everyone who has a strong social media presence and has you know, lots of numbers to And I'm like, yeah, of course, you know, that's a really good point.

16:53 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I also want to keep it open for people who are just starting out right, just beginning to develop, so I can help them, right, And so it doesn't help me and my mission to just think about how many people as a success.

17:07 Speaker 7: Oh of course, it's more did.

17:09 Speaker 1: People have a wonderful time? Are they going to talk about this forever. Are they going to be a customer of mine forever? So that's kind of like my whole philosophy is of support and service to the community and not trying to you know, see things from a completely cold analytics standpoint.

17:28 Speaker 7: Right right now. Yeah, I get it. I mean it's kind of like with this with this show, you know, I mean, you know, we have a lot of guests who have a great media social media presence and and uh and really are you know, on a very much an upward trajectory in their career. But yeah, but we also have sometimes we have guests who are just starting out, you know, and and you know, and and we don't discriminate in that way because it's a you know, especially it's it's what's really uh excuse me. What's really nice is like when we have somebody on the show and maybe they're just starting out, and then we have them on again maybe a year or two years later, you know, and they've really made a lot of progress.

18:09 Speaker 7: And it's like, you know, because sometimes sometimes all musician needs is someone to believe in them, you know, and to give them an opportunity to try to you know, because I hear so many people say and I'm sure you both have as well that you know, Yeah, I want to get into the music scene. I want to play. I don't know where to start, especially if they're a solo act.

18:30 Speaker 1: That's when I asked them to just give me a call and I can sit down with them and I can help them figure out a pathway.

18:36 Speaker 7: Yeah.

18:37 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean at the same time, everything's in experience, you know, so that it's yeah, we may have had some shows that had like, you know, ten fewer people than like one of the really full nights. We have a small capacity, right, it's like even once we start getting fifty people in there, it's like we got a packed house.

18:56 Speaker 7: Like, yeah, it's good.

18:58 Speaker 8: And at the same same time, it's like it's such an important thing to me as a musician to see the people that are coming there to catch that show, gaining that memory and that experience that it was just an amazing thing. Nobody leaves that place without saying to somebody, this place is awesome, the music was awesome, this is every this is great doing what you're doing because this is what people need.

19:33 Speaker 1: We've never had a show, sorry, never had a show that I got.

19:39 Speaker 7: That that's okay, Although all the times you've been on, that's the first for you.

19:46 Speaker 1: Usually pretty good.

19:47 Speaker 7: I don't know all that's all right, but that's why we're that's why we're on a delay.

19:55 Speaker 1: Catch.

19:55 Speaker 7: We have these potty mouth music types.

20:00 Speaker 8: I'm usually the worst one about it. I'm like, but oh, well, you know, it's funny though.

20:07 Speaker 7: I was just talking to I was talking with somebody about this last night actually, when we had a green jelly green jello on the show. I think I I think I hit the dump button like four times.

20:17 Speaker 3: That doesn't.

20:20 Speaker 7: And it wasn't and it wasn't even like swearing. It was just like, oh, that joke may have gone a little far, and I, you.

20:29 Speaker 1: Know, I people filter.

20:31 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he definitely had something because he was he was trying. He understood he was on the radio and he's a pro, so he wasn't intentionally, you know, trying to. I just feel so yeah, yeah, no, I get it, I get it. We should talk to about the kind of the the educational aspect of what you do and then and the mentoring really go ahead.

20:53 Speaker 1: No, I just wanted to actually also say in the vein of giving people their first shot, which is hard in the bar, or club scene because they want to know who you're bringing, how much money you're going to make them. What I'd like to do this summer is open up what I call from school to stage. And there's a lot of people who are still in high school or who are maybe eighteen in the college age, who can't play the bar scene or the clubs just yet, and there's not very many places for them to play. So I am going to open up from school to stage and have a launching point for all ages shows this summer just as a series.

21:35 Speaker 1: I'm hoping to partner with Nashville's School of Rock, which just opened up this last month, and have some of their musicians and students who are also in bands perform from School of Rock to our Terminus underground stage, and I think that'll be a good platform to get people used to being in a stage environment, in a professional stage environment before they get to, you know, the next level.

21:59 Speaker 7: That's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah.

22:03 Speaker 1: We're excited because there's a lot of like you know, punk rock shows that are all ages, and we haven't had that opportunity to do that yet, so it's kind of you know, that's the next step for us do things we didn't do last year?

22:16 Speaker 7: What's what's like the probably hard to pinpoint, but like what what's the biggest thing or maybe a couple of things that you run into with, especially with musicians just starting out that they need help with, like what are what are maybe some things that most people just don't understand and you have to kind of help them and mentor them with some.

22:40 Speaker 1: People don't understand anything. Yeah, oh my goodness. Well I've been at it for twenty five years. So the language that I've learned over the course of you know, being the foundation of my own musicianship as a musician for the past well, I've been a musician since I was eight years old, but a sort of professional leaning working musician was for about seven years of my life in the two thousands. But from that point and then learning all of the things I learned when I went to Berkeley School of Music for music business.

23:12 Speaker 1: I speak a language that people don't speak. So there's racronyms, and you know, people are like what's ASCAP, what's BMI, what's a pro? So those are the things that I teach. So the foundational knowledge of how to communicate the language, so to understand what a booking agent is versus a promoter versus you know, a talent buyer. You know, they're all kind of similar, but there are differences, so people don't know those things. Yeah, what's an ePK? How do I create a press skit? What's my best method for getting my music out there?

23:42 Speaker 1: Do I need to be all over the place or do I just go on Spotify? So there's a lot of different questions. And then there's also the level of data analytics drilling down into their you know, websites or marketing schematics and so from like nuts to bolts, I can teach you everything to a point. You know, at some point I want to let you go, so you do it yourself, right, because that's what we can do these days. The beauty of what our industry has become is that now we can do it ourselves. But if you don't know how, you're going to struggle.

24:13 Speaker 1: And some of the people that I am working with now have been musicians for twenty years but never knew how to get any of that out of themselves. Yeah, six Minds Combined is a perfect example. He is an amazing artist, a hip hop artist, and he never knew how to launch, and now he's doing so well. And it's just a matter of six months that we've been working together, maybe a little over that. It might be a year now, but he's doing so well because now he knows what to do.

24:41 Speaker 6: Mm hmmmmm.

24:43 Speaker 7: That's excellent and he's great. He's That song running through a Mansion is on my list of you know, like I think a lot of us, I always have a song in my head when I wake up in the morning, you know what I mean. There's always something in my head and that song is is one of those songs on that list of songs that that that I might have running while running through when I when I first wake up in the morning. What do you ever run into anybody who has like they think they they think they know, they think they understand the process, so to speak.

25:24 Speaker 7: But they but they have kind of an old school idea, like like you run into people who still think I always you. You may have at some point heard heard this rant from me over the years. I've always liked to talk about the mythical record company scout you know who you because someone who thinks that and I run into this far lesson. I used to certainly. But you know somebody who thinks that, Okay, my band, we're gonna play. We're gonna play this bar every weekend, and one of these weekends a record company scout is going to happen to wander in and they're gonna be so impressed with us.

25:57 Speaker 7: They're gonna sign us to this major label ten album deal, and they're gonna fly us out, and we're gonna stay in the Playboy mansion. Uh while we make our album and we're gonna hang out.

26:07 Speaker 1: What year are you thinking, I guess, And we're gonna we're gonna hang out with supermodels and and we're gonna be millionaires.

26:14 Speaker 7: And because that's obviously how it works, I don't really run into that anymore, but but there are that's kind of I mean a little bit hyperbolic about it. But but do you run into that? People just have like these old ideas.

26:28 Speaker 1: And well, I'm what I run into a lot, And I think what we recently have run into is people who have a negative perspective because of their past, you know, associations with the industry itself. They haven't learned how to move forward and understand that the future isn't what it was ten twenty years ago, and so you are were responsible for making our own way and our futures. So I feel like a lot of people get stuck like, oh, you know, I'm not able to move forward into this. So there's like, yeah, kind of that where they think that nothing happens or nothing is happening and no one does anything.

27:12 Speaker 1: But no, that's not true. You're just not in it anymore.

27:15 Speaker 7: I guess, right, right, I guess what what would be the modern day version of what I what I just described. I guess it would be like the person who think, like, do you ever run into somebody who thinks maybe they're maybe they're kind of thinking too much the other way where they think I need to be well, I need to be an influencer, like I need to uh while TikTok. I guess it is about to go dark. But but I but you know, but the person who thinks if I can just like get a viral, if I can go viral, then my music will be successful because whatever I go viral for it doesn't even necessarily have to be my music.

27:45 Speaker 7: I just have to go viral, and then I'm going to be this, you know, and then I'll I'll get that ten album deal nobody gets anymore or something like that.

27:53 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it does take work in all avenues. Whether or not you intend to go viral or not, you still have to do the work and there's certain methodologies in order for that to be successful. We don't know all the secrets, but we have some of them over at New Hampshire Underground. Yeah, you know, we know how to work the analytics and how to work the programs and how to you know, get things going. But I can't say that I would be the cure all for anybody. If you're thinking that route. A lot of it is within you.

28:23 Speaker 7: You know, you have to do the work exactly. Yeah, that's the thing too. People some people think some people think, well, I'm so talented, I don't have to do the work. I deserve to be successful, you know, and then they.

28:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of people who think like that, and no, it doesn't work that way. Unfortunately. You can't just sit there and look pretty right right.

28:42 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, No, there is a there's a lot of that. And what's the expression, every overnight success was years in the making, you know.

28:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, I mean everybody has to hone their craft too. I know, there's it's a lot easier these days to do your craft and record and make it yourself, but you just have to keep working at it.

29:04 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, like Dead Harrison, Yeah yeah, absolutely, yeah, you guys have been how long has that Harrison been around now? Fifteen sixteen years?

29:17 Speaker 1: Wow?

29:17 Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, I mean And that's the thing is.

29:22 Speaker 8: Like taking that's also another educational part of like she may be doing more of that back end the you know, the the work that you need to the behind the back end of the business stuff of what you can do as a musician. Yeah, whereas I'm able to take my experiences and even like being the guy that's running sound when Katie was there running sound, even like even I was having an open mind, like watching some of the things that she was doing and paying attention to and how can so for me. It's also educating people on how to communicate with the sound person, yep, because so many times, how many venues that you're just like you don't know what to say, you don't know how to communicate with that person, what you may need and your monitor friends, yourself and sometimes it's even having that prideful attitude of being like I want this, I need this, I got to have no open up a dialogue with the sound person.

30:27 Speaker 8: You wonder why the sound people are all grumpy and jaded. Yes, because they're sick of dealing with idiots. Yes, So open up your mind a little bit and learn about what's going on on the other end. Also, we can focus on being like good musicians, but it's also good to have that back end knowledge of like, what's that guy, what's his job back there? How can I help him so that it can make us also sound really great?

30:56 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know, so.

30:58 Speaker 8: Good communication is key and then once you got everybody like all happy with their sound on stage, then you pump it out. But I think that that's the thing is also teaching people to understand like how to get things set up, how to start working a soundboard. Hey, here's how you set up your monitors. Hear, how you set up your systems. You can keep track of all this stuff. Here's what your gains are. Here's where you want to kind of keep your eques and think about your equalizer in the sense of each instrument.

31:29 Speaker 8: Each thing has its own space that it occupies in the EQ range. So you can clean your sound up a lot when you pull the unneeded frequencies out of the things.

31:43 Speaker 1: Anybody wants to learn and teaching, yeah.

31:46 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And that's the thing.

31:48 Speaker 8: I mean, there's stuff that's going to be happening where, you know, whether or not I'm going on a show or doing something else. I want to be training people how to run sound, and not just how to run sound, but how to run it good. Yeah, how to communicate with the band, all the things to pay attention to so that you're not going to blow fuses ye, or you're not going to blow your piasis.

32:09 Speaker 1: We are hiring at Terminus Underground right now for a sound engineer or sound tech to do gigs with us and for us because Andre probably will be going on tour, going out there, you know, and doing other shows, so we are going to need some backups. So if anybody is interested, email us at New Hampshire Underground at gmail dot com.

32:29 Speaker 7: I wish I could split myself into many pieces. No, it's a great point though about it, And like you said, I want to make friends with the sound guy because or a sound woman, which are very very few.

32:41 Speaker 1: Shout out to Katie Read. She's one of the best in the industry.

32:44 Speaker 7: Oh, she does a great job. Yeah, absolutely, I've seen. I'm sure all three of us have seen countless examples of like you know, like you were saying, andre, like people getting impatient with the sound guy, or not being as pleasant as and professional as the should be. And whenever I see that, I think, the thought that goes through my head is the same thing whenever somebody is rude in a restaurant to the wait staff or anybody. It's like, you know, before they even get their food, you shouldn't do that for two, well two reasons, one of them obvious, because you just shouldn't be rude to people.

33:20 Speaker 7: Number one. Yeah, but number two, you're being rude to somebody who if they want to, they can spit in your food and you'll never know it, you know what I mean. I mean, I personally have never worked in a restaurant, but the stories I've heard about how people who are rude are dealt with.

33:37 Speaker 1: Let me wipe my meat on your meat on my shoes.

33:40 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.

33:41 Speaker 7: So it's so it's so crazy, like like to ever, you know, be rude to anybody working in food service, but especially before you actually get your food. So I think the same thing whenever I see somebody dealing with a sound person, you know, and they're not being professional and they're not being kind or patient or whatever. It's like, well that sound person has they hold your set in their hands. They can make you sound terrible if they want to.

34:10 Speaker 3: What are you doing?

34:12 Speaker 1: Or they could fall asleep at the soundboard, which I have seen.

34:17 Speaker 7: I haven't seen that. You've seen that really?

34:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that in Boston. But in his defense, he actually was a very good sound person. He might just have had an earcolepsy.

34:27 Speaker 7: Yeah.

34:28 Speaker 1: Just we teach those professional behaviors over at New Hampshire Underground. We teach professionalism over there and professional courtesy and how to communicate effectively. So anyone who wants to learn the ropes about how to work within the music industry, how to build relationships, how to network appropriately, that's something that is totally teachable. Yeah, and we'll be doing more workshops, like we have one on one sessions over there, and some people like six Minds combined in the Whole Loaf and Ed Harrison or VIP members of Terminus I mean of New Hampshire Underground, so they get like the top level of consulting with me, but then we have group sessions that we'll be doing as well, that it might be a little bit more cost effective for some people.

35:13 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I think that's excellent. By the way, So we've got some folks in the chat room I want to say hello to. One of them is Lewis Tyvee, and he made a couple of great comments. But I also for those watching online, I got to put the.

35:26 Speaker 1: Whoops, I see Lacy online.

35:28 Speaker 7: High Lacey, I gotta put the camera. Okay, I put the camera back on me for a moment because I happened to be wearing the shirt, the wonderful shirt our friend Lewis Tyvee from across the Pond, very talented musician, and this happens to be the shirt that I grabbed this morning. He sent us an entire care package of shirt and buttons and CDs and the whole deal. So but yeah, he's been a big supporter of the show. We'll have to definitely have to have him on. Let's see I see Lacey yup New Hampshire Underground.

35:56 Speaker 7: Oh that's another who I am. That's another one of those songs that I get that I wake up with in my head. Let's go that when it's time to run. Yeah, let me know when it's time to rock, let me know when it's time to rock. I often wake up with that song in my head too. It's it's quite infectious. Yeah.

36:14 Speaker 1: Lacey's a musician member of New Hampshire Underground, so that means that she gets access to the community jam space as well as the artists and musician love.

36:24 Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, excellent. So Lewis Tivee says, can confirm I've played a few shows that got sabotaged by the sound guy and venue owner too. Yeah, that that can happen. And he also said absolutely hate the influencer culture. It really cuts into the fun of the music making process and it dilutes the artist in my opinion, because you're competing with people posting goodness knows what, which seems which seems to get endless engagement, but the average person doesn't seem as interested in indie music anymore.

37:01 Speaker 7: We're going to get to a stage, We're going to get to a stage where all we have is classic rock, et cetera. It's hard to compete with wealthy artists who can afford the expensive promotions et cetera kind of how it's always been going away, right, I mean it's always been you have to compete with whoever has the money, you know.

37:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess that is if you're talking about mainstream music. I think that's absolutely true. But I'm not ever talking about mainstream music. I'm talking about something entirely different. Underground music. Independent music is outside the mainstream perview. You're never going to get to that level. It's just like us in Nashua with the Nashuast Center of Performing Arts. They are the center for performing arts for the mainstream bands and artists coming into the city. They want nothing to do with local music.

37:53 Speaker 1: They want nothing to do with underground music. It's just not in their purview because it's not a money maker for them and they don't see it as a viable industry. So therefore, what else are we going to do? So I'm going to take the horns and I'm going to create my own micro entertainment center that's created for underground artists and indie musicians to thrive in. And it might not be as big and as you know, lucrative in that way as the mainstream operations, but it might be more successful in other ways, and I think people need to redefine their levels of success in their minds.

38:30 Speaker 1: I know some people really do like six minds combined. He wants to be a millionaire, and that's valid. We just have to do the work so, you know, we can. We only get out so much as what we put in, and it's all within our control. And if we don't have the money, then we can't be a millionaire necessarily. So if we're not making money, we can't. You know, if you're not spending money, you can't make money, right. So there's a lot of business principles that I think people forget in this industry. They're in it, but they don't understand it and they don't understand how to make money out of it.

39:01 Speaker 1: And I've helped people make money, and I've made money myself in this industry. But it's not what you think it is. It's not those you know, millions of dollars flashy cars. It's sort of more of like a satisfaction that I'm able to feed myself and do what I need to do, and then I have freedom.

39:18 Speaker 7: Right right to do what I love. Bruce Heberlin is in the Facebook live chat of course from a legion of Solace, another organization that does music promotion, and Bruce says Green Jello is booking for twenty twenty five. Bring them back.

39:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to have them back.

39:33 Speaker 7: Oh my god, that would be wonderful.

39:34 Speaker 1: Yeah. Terminus Underground got a little spot for marketing on the Pool Middle Express bus, the tour bus. That was really fun.

39:42 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome. Jenny of course is in the chat room and sends the heart good morning, Jenny. Yeah, Jenny, Jenny had quite a week, so if you follow her social media, you know she's been doing some great stuff.

39:55 Speaker 1: But Jenny, thank you. We're so proud of you. Thank you so much for standing up for people.

39:59 Speaker 7: Absolute. Yeah, it's important. And uh oh. Jason Patterson, of course, one of our great friends from the state of Vermont, is in there. Hello. And I can't read that question on the air, but the phrase new direction, I think he misunderstood it. V Pinarda, also in the chat room, says good morning everyone. Ready for three to six inches of snow? I think here. I think we're just getting rain here unless something has changed, but of course we won't know when is this snow happening. I think tonight maybe no, but I think I think just up north they're getting I think I think here it's going to be rain.

40:39 Speaker 7: We've been lucky.

40:40 Speaker 1: We have been lucky. It's been very mild winter so far.

40:43 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's been cold, but I'd rather have it cold and dry than snowy and icy and all of that, all of that awfulness.

40:53 Speaker 1: Uh what I was going to say, that's one of the reasons why Terminus Underground is only open and after March is because we have this really horrible hill that gets very icy.

41:05 Speaker 7: Oh I didn't even think of that.

41:06 Speaker 1: Even if you plow, it still has ice patches that aren't very safe, and we just want to make sure our community is safe. Yeah, but it also gives us time to reflect on the year and kind of regroup two and and make things even better. But at the same time, yeah, it's a lot of safety issues.

41:22 Speaker 7: That part never occurred to me. Yeah.

41:24 Speaker 8: Yeah, And I mean that's another overhead expense if you're going to have you know, people come in and clout and salt. Yeah, even for me, if I have to do the salting out of pocket, that's a big area to salt. Yes, it is Yeah, that's all. That's some that's some pallets of salt that I have to actually have over there.

41:44 Speaker 3: Yeah.

41:44 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just like that's funny. Yeah, I didn't even think of that. Yeah, so very good. Yeah if you are just joining as Eleanor and andre Or here with us talking all about New Hampshire Underground and of course Terminus Underground and we should uh oh, I see who I am is in this chat room now we had we kind of have to chat the way because we're signing it out various places and people show up various places, which is good. Oh and I see Sim's here. Good morning everyone. I said that correctly, Is it Sims?

42:12 Speaker 10: Sir?

42:18 Speaker 1: I figured, yeah, it's like sir and Marcy from what was that the Peanuts?

42:25 Speaker 8: I thought, oh okay, yeah yeah, and for me, I just remember here lumber Oh okay, I kind of spelt the same way.

42:33 Speaker 7: Ye okay, no whatever works. Also, uh yeah, you see your Khan is in the chat room, and uh said uh from Pakistan? Very nice, very nice.

42:52 Speaker 1: I see Karen Beatty from More in the Light and John Willett from Stone Shadows.

42:58 Speaker 7: Oh very good guys. Thanks for More in the Lights. Such a great band. I don't know, Stone Shadows.

43:04 Speaker 1: They're Brandy new and Stone or rock Stoner Metal. They're in the building and they're going to launch it Terminus, I believe in May.

43:11 Speaker 7: Excellent. Oh, very cool, good, good good? So what now have you announced the obviously there's the what do you what do you call it? You're not calling it a grand reopening.

43:24 Speaker 1: Reopening party, okay, So it'll be a tour. You get to it's an open house, have cheese and wines, and then we'll do a tour of Terminus underground, the club and the musician and artists lounge. You'll get to see that in the workshop podcast space that we have. So we have more of like a multipurpose space in the second room now which can be used either for art workshops or podcasting. And then downstairs is the community jam space. So we'll give you a full tour, we can talk about membership and what that entails.

43:56 Speaker 1: It's very accessible because there's all sorts of prices price levels for you know, whatever you're looking to do with yourself or your music career. If you're just looking for a place to hang out, it can be as low as twenty dollars a month.

44:08 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, okay, and.

44:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are going to talk about that and some of the upcoming opportunities to join us as a volunteer if you want to.

44:18 Speaker 7: Yeah, excellent. So that's so the open house. So that's Tuesday, just to remind people, Tuesday from seven to eleven.

44:25 Speaker 1: Yep, Tuesday, the twenty first, from seven pm to eleven, we're going to have our grand reopening party for the newly branded new Hampshire Underground Outstanding.

44:35 Speaker 7: Not really looking forward to that. And so Quincy Lord is playing.

44:39 Speaker 1: That and jess Bessie Redstein Jessie Rhetstein, Yeah, both acoustic rock guitar players. And we're going to have three artists on display at our gallery. So Andre's one of them. He does a lot of geometric inspired art based on the Fibonacci sequence. And my mother, Brenda Drew, she's a designer. She was a fashion designer in New York. Now she does fashion illustrations. She's blind in one eye, so okay, we're going to display her art. And then Keegan Fitzgerald is our resident Rockstar member artist and her art is already in the gallery, but she's gonna have even more on display and for sale, and so I would just welcome everyone to bring you know yourselves, your families, come check it out.

45:21 Speaker 1: It's really cool. It's not a very big space. We can only have about fifty per the fire Marshal, but we definitely have the vibes that people are needing.

45:31 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, And where should people go? You've got a new website for the uh yeah address. Well, the physical address is one thirty four Hain Street. Yeah yeah.

45:44 Speaker 1: The web address New Hampshire Underground dot org. So it's pretty simple. It's a dot org because eventually I'd like to become a nonprofit and we can support even more artists and musicians and get grant funding from We have a City Grant Arts Commission, so they are grant money from the city for local art organizations, and then there's state funding and also federal funding available for artists and musicians that it's very difficult to tap unless you are a nonprofit. So that's the direction that we're planning on going in Right now, we're sole proprietorship, but we want to kind of level the playing field.

46:22 Speaker 1: So every time someone comes and plays at Terminus, everybody gets paid. We all split it evenly. It's not like you know, you get seven dollars because you showed up in the club didn't do their job right. Emotions. Everybody has to pay a ticket price of fifteen dollars or twenty for our vipizza vip tickets, and we split it all evenly between us, the sound person and the bands. So you know, it's good because people are there to have a good time, but then they're making a little bit to take home with them as well.

46:53 Speaker 8: Yes, everybody's doing work, yeah, exactly, exactly. It's definitely not about making a profit. It's about everybody is worth something, right, like all the work that we do, you know. So it's good all across the board because it gives everybody that incentive.

47:14 Speaker 1: We need everyone to feel valued and valuable because we're sick of the industry standards. We ran into industry standards a few months ago and I'm still I would like to break the status quo where the headliner comes in and they're the only people that get paid and they're the only people that matter, even though they only came in ten minutes before they're set, and they never supported the show and they never advertised, and everybody else worked so hard and they got screwed am I allowed to say that, Yes you are because someone got greedy and we're not going to do that.

47:48 Speaker 1: I'm never going to do that to anyone. I'm never going to just you know, capitalize on something that should be shared wealth.

47:55 Speaker 7: Yeah, excellent, right guys, right, No, that's that's outstanding.

48:01 Speaker 1: Can stand it. I mean, I feel like sometimes the mother of dragons, and I've gotten called recently. I'm like Lady Red Queen. I'm like, I'm gonna be the mother of dragons. I'm going to get on my dragon. I'm going to flame this industry down and I'm not going to stop until I change the status quo.

48:18 Speaker 7: There you go, there you go. Very good. Oh, by the way, hello to Aaron Milladough who I see in the Facebook chat. Excellent. Well, we gotta we gotta wrap up the segment. I'm thinking I'm actually gonna play I'm gonna play a Dead Harrison song. I'm thinking about actually playing Monolith Lord. Oh there you go.

48:32 Speaker 1: Yeah that's the best song. I love that song.

48:34 Speaker 7: Do yeah. Yeah, I think we'll I think we'll go with that. But thank you both so much of course. Uh. New Hampshire Underground very excited for twenty twenty five.

48:41 Speaker 1: And yeah, come on down John thirty four Haynes Street.

48:45 Speaker 7: Jenny and I will be there Tuesday night. Really looking forward to that. So in New Hampshire. Underground dot org is the new website. Check that out, eleanor Andre. Thank you both so much. Thank you for having us here, absolutely and we will.

48:58 Speaker 1: Everybody for watching.

48:59 Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, and if you're listening live on Saturday, stick around. We have Nancy Manet coming up. She's gonna be stapping in from Texas at the top of the hour. But we will end this segment with this is Monolith Lord and this is Daed Harrison.

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