Matt Connarton Unleashed 1-18-25 hour 2

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0:16 Speaker 2: Fall. The women who have gone before not fine, and

0:21 Speaker 2: they went to arm.

0:23 Speaker 3: They paid away within their tears.

0:27 Speaker 2: They are hard and laughter Di's fight their tears yet

0:31 Speaker 2: to come full circle?

0:33 Speaker 4: Where we are?

0:35 Speaker 2: Why have we not come as far as our homes

0:40 Speaker 2: and dreams say?

0:42 Speaker 5: We can't o?

0:43 Speaker 3: Is it our fault? Do we explain?

0:46 Speaker 4: The man read along? When our grandparents built, we choose.

0:51 Speaker 3: To live without hiding gill. We admit when we're.

0:55 Speaker 2: Wrong, choosing love instead.

0:58 Speaker 6: We solve ours over.

1:01 Speaker 5: And we don't want one a pallors that they.

1:07 Speaker 3: Could do without getting car before you and you'll before me.

1:14 Speaker 6: It's the ballot that SAIDs free god something we don't

1:32 Speaker 6: see those raging.

1:34 Speaker 2: War on you vanity. It's not just women, it's not

1:40 Speaker 2: just man.

1:41 Speaker 3: It's free that leads.

1:43 Speaker 7: It's where we've been.

1:45 Speaker 8: We don't solve our prob Soon.

1:49 Speaker 6: It'll get worse far for before you lives are described

1:54 Speaker 6: by the wars.

1:55 Speaker 1: We wait windows in and can we turn the pit?

2:00 Speaker 3: We don't want what our grandparents built. We choose to

2:05 Speaker 3: live without hiding guilt.

2:08 Speaker 2: We admit when we're wrong, choosing love instead, solve our problems.

2:14 Speaker 9: Are friend of battle We don't.

2:17 Speaker 5: Want what our parents, but they could.

2:21 Speaker 3: Do without gang hotile before you and you before me.

2:27 Speaker 6: It's the belt that sad us freely.

2:49 Speaker 2: We don't want what our grandparents built. We choose to

2:54 Speaker 2: live without hiding guilt. We admit when we're wrong, choosing

2:59 Speaker 2: love and staff song.

3:01 Speaker 3: Problems are and we do along water piers, not they

3:09 Speaker 3: to do without getting car before you and you before me.

3:16 Speaker 2: It's the ballot that sadas free.

3:36 Speaker 4: That is setus free.

3:38 Speaker 10: Brand new from our friend Nancy Manette, who's been on

3:41 Speaker 10: the show a couple of times. She's skyping in from

3:44 Speaker 10: from Texas.

3:45 Speaker 4: Nancy, are you there?

3:46 Speaker 7: I am, good morning, you two.

3:49 Speaker 10: Good morning, It's it's only me. Jenny is at home.

3:53 Speaker 10: She's been she's been very very busy. I don't know

3:56 Speaker 10: if you follow her on social media, and I do.

4:00 Speaker 7: Do you've actually been chatting?

4:01 Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, all of her activism.

4:03 Speaker 10: She had a pretty intense, Uh, she had a pretty

4:05 Speaker 10: intense couple of days this week. And so she's home

4:08 Speaker 10: home getting so well earned, well deserved rest. But I'm

4:12 Speaker 10: so very proud of her.

4:14 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, she's yes, well, she she sent me

4:20 Speaker 7: a text and uh, the picture from her in front

4:25 Speaker 7: of you know, down in in the downtown Manhattan, in

4:31 Speaker 7: front of the Stock Exchange. And yes, you know, I

4:35 Speaker 7: got teary eyed when I saw her picture because part

4:39 Speaker 7: of the lyrics, instead of free, talks about greed. And

4:44 Speaker 7: you know, when when our friends and our family and

4:48 Speaker 7: our neighbors and even the strangers we've not met yet yet,

4:52 Speaker 7: but they're they're citizens of this country, do not have

4:55 Speaker 7: access to healthcare, but record profits are being recorded. I'm

5:00 Speaker 7: not sure. I'm not sure we're doing it right.

5:04 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm absolutely completely sure we're doing it wrong. I'm

5:15 Speaker 10: absolutely I have no no doubts whatsoever.

5:18 Speaker 4: We're doing it wrong.

5:20 Speaker 7: That's right.

5:21 Speaker 4: But no, I love the song set Us Free, and

5:25 Speaker 4: this is new right or this is relative brand new?

5:29 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I actually, uh, while recording the debut album,

5:36 Speaker 11: I was working on the next one, and so uh,

5:40 Speaker 11: this was written.

5:41 Speaker 7: This was it's a it's a I'm I love this

5:47 Speaker 7: song for a lot of reasons, but also like where

5:49 Speaker 7: it came. I was sitting at Criteria down in Miami.

5:52 Speaker 7: We wrapped early and I had time left over to

5:57 Speaker 7: just noodle around on the piano, and I had this concept.

6:01 Speaker 7: Actually when I flew home from London from recording at

6:04 Speaker 7: Abbey Road. I thought, I want to write a song

6:07 Speaker 7: about you know, women and what we've been through and

6:10 Speaker 7: you know whose fault, you know, we we point a

6:13 Speaker 7: lot of fingers, right.

6:14 Speaker 10: And and is it is it?

6:16 Speaker 7: You know, the man's fault? And and and I'm like,

6:21 Speaker 7: you know, it's it's not just women, and it's not

6:23 Speaker 7: just men, it's you know. I just started writing and

6:27 Speaker 7: then when I got to Criteria, I sat down on

6:28 Speaker 7: the piano and the melody came and it was slotted

6:32 Speaker 7: for the next album. So this is the first read.

6:35 Speaker 7: This is actually the first song on the upcoming album

6:39 Speaker 7: release that will be later this winter, I think early spring.

6:44 Speaker 4: Outstanding. Yes, what's the album called? Do you have a title?

6:49 Speaker 1: I do?

6:50 Speaker 7: Yeah, look look for Paths P A A P A

6:54 Speaker 7: T h S. Yeah, that'll be coming out. How many,

6:59 Speaker 7: of course singles will come after that, but yeah, after

7:02 Speaker 7: this one. But then the album will drop probably sometime

7:05 Speaker 7: in April.

7:06 Speaker 4: How many do you know how many songs are going

7:08 Speaker 4: to be on it?

7:10 Speaker 7: And that one is nine nine?

7:11 Speaker 10: Okay, so is the album? Is the album completely done?

7:14 Speaker 10: It's it's just uh, yes, excellent.

7:19 Speaker 7: Yes, it is, in fact, we're finishing number four right

7:23 Speaker 7: now in the studio.

7:24 Speaker 4: Okay, so yeah, wow, yeah, a little busy, Yeah, no kidding, huh.

7:32 Speaker 10: So, so since we last talked, according to Skype, it

7:35 Speaker 10: was oh, actually, according to Skype, it was ten months ago.

7:38 Speaker 10: But then there was also that time you were here

7:40 Speaker 10: in studio with us. But yeah, so that was obviously

7:43 Speaker 10: more recent, right, Yes.

7:46 Speaker 7: That was in May. It was in May at the

7:48 Speaker 7: launch of the debut album.

7:50 Speaker 4: Okay, it all becomes I love seeing you guys in person.

7:52 Speaker 7: I wish I could be there right now.

7:54 Speaker 10: Yeah, no, it was wonderful to have you here. It

7:56 Speaker 10: all becomes such a blur as far as time. I

7:58 Speaker 10: also say too, I feel like the pandemic messed up

8:02 Speaker 10: time for a lot of people because I absolutely so

8:07 Speaker 10: many of us perceived time differently now than we did

8:10 Speaker 10: a pre pandemic for whatever reason.

8:11 Speaker 4: But yeah, so this is so. Is there a theme

8:16 Speaker 4: with the the new album?

8:18 Speaker 10: I mean, obviously, you know, set Us Free has a

8:21 Speaker 10: you know, it's pretty pretty specific, and you know you

8:23 Speaker 10: can you can get a message out of those lyrics, certainly,

8:26 Speaker 10: But is there a theme running through the album with

8:29 Speaker 10: with paths.

8:31 Speaker 7: I would say the word pat that's actually where the

8:35 Speaker 7: you know we have, life takes us down different roads, right,

8:39 Speaker 7: and you know, depending on what we choose on a

8:45 Speaker 7: day to day and year to year, life just takes

8:49 Speaker 7: us in different directions. And and so it's an album

8:53 Speaker 7: that really focuses, you know, And I'm a you know,

8:57 Speaker 7: I'm a I'm a story teller, right, I'm you know

9:00 Speaker 7: a lot of ways. My my lyrics are folk driven,

9:03 Speaker 7: but my style is not folk, right, So I've got

9:05 Speaker 7: the stories that are constantly running through any of my lyrics,

9:09 Speaker 7: and and you'll find that on this upcoming album as well.

9:13 Speaker 7: I you know, just address different topics. I addressed topics

9:17 Speaker 7: of pain, I address topics of you know, a woman

9:21 Speaker 7: getting out on her own, address topics of you know,

9:25 Speaker 7: we need each other as a community to jump off together,

9:28 Speaker 7: so we're each other's cheerleaders and and and set us free.

9:33 Speaker 7: You know, I'm addressing we don't want, you know, what

9:39 Speaker 7: our parents thought they could do without getting caught. You know,

9:43 Speaker 7: you know a lot of us have parents, And I

9:44 Speaker 7: was speaking from myself my you know, my dad has

9:48 Speaker 7: been gone many years, but I still have a parent

9:50 Speaker 7: in her mid to late eighties, and and even our grandparents. Man.

9:56 Speaker 7: You know, my my grandmother U. She was not a

10:00 Speaker 7: not a not rest her soul, She was not a

10:04 Speaker 7: nice human, you know. And a lot of the problems

10:07 Speaker 7: that are still systemic today point back to this dishonesty

10:11 Speaker 7: and this greed that we built and then said we

10:15 Speaker 7: should be okay with. And it was my daughter who

10:18 Speaker 7: pointed it out, you know, as as she was looking

10:22 Speaker 7: at even my own career, and how we go out

10:25 Speaker 7: and build, build, build, build, build and collect and you know, stuff,

10:31 Speaker 7: and at the expense of other people. And so you know,

10:36 Speaker 7: just what like what Gen's facing, you know, just basic

10:40 Speaker 7: health cares and and and shots that are that are

10:44 Speaker 7: needed for people's well being and not having access is

10:51 Speaker 7: it's heartbreaking.

10:52 Speaker 10: Actually now when you talk, when you talk in the

10:56 Speaker 10: song about what what they thought, you know, they could

10:59 Speaker 10: do and and sort of get away with are you

11:02 Speaker 10: are you speaking broadly or are you speaking about specific

11:06 Speaker 10: things that happened to you growing up?

11:09 Speaker 7: This one is actually a much broader Yes, it could

11:14 Speaker 7: be let me let me back up. It could be

11:15 Speaker 7: applicable to my life for sure, right, things that happened

11:19 Speaker 7: to me as a child, things that have happened in

11:23 Speaker 7: my adult life that people have chosen to lie about,

11:27 Speaker 7: right for sure. But actually the underlying tone for this

11:33 Speaker 7: song was really based on a conversation I had with

11:36 Speaker 7: my daughter and looking at the state of the world

11:40 Speaker 7: in present day and how you know people can just

11:45 Speaker 7: get away with criminal behavior. Yes, and as long as

11:51 Speaker 7: the dollar is lining our pockets. You know, this is

11:56 Speaker 7: a worldwide problem. You know, I could just focus it

12:01 Speaker 7: right here in the US, but this is something that

12:03 Speaker 7: has to be corrected across the world. And there are

12:06 Speaker 7: some places that are doing some things very well, so

12:10 Speaker 7: shout out to to those countries. But I it is

12:16 Speaker 7: it's a direct you know, it's a direct response to

12:19 Speaker 7: where we're finding ourselves as humans on this planet. And

12:25 Speaker 7: I believe we have a responsibility to take care of

12:27 Speaker 7: each other. Yes, it's not just what's in my retirement plan, right.

12:36 Speaker 12: Right.

12:39 Speaker 7: Yeah, But also you know, for sure, when I was

12:41 Speaker 7: young or even present day, you know, I live under

12:45 Speaker 7: I live under the threat of lives. And you know,

12:52 Speaker 7: if just to share a song as simple as set

12:54 Speaker 7: us free, yeah, do.

12:58 Speaker 10: You do you have a relationship with and obviously some

13:01 Speaker 10: of these things we've talked about in previous conversations, but

13:04 Speaker 10: for people who are hearing me speak with you for

13:07 Speaker 10: the first time on the show. For newer listeners, I

13:13 Speaker 10: can't recall exactly what you've said about this, But do

13:15 Speaker 10: you have a relationship with anyone from your your family

13:19 Speaker 10: growing up or is.

13:21 Speaker 2: I do not?

13:21 Speaker 4: Okay and not well?

13:24 Speaker 7: And let me back that up. I do with an

13:27 Speaker 7: aunt who really just pioneered the way as a single woman,

13:33 Speaker 7: was single, has been single her whole life, you know,

13:36 Speaker 7: started as an airline attendant way back in the early sixties,

13:42 Speaker 7: and so she has lived her whole life as a

13:44 Speaker 7: single woman and has really paved the way for a

13:48 Speaker 7: lot of us women. But other than my aunt, I

13:53 Speaker 7: do not, and not without trying. And I'll tell you

13:58 Speaker 7: I went last Christmas. I went to share a Christmas

14:04 Speaker 7: song that I had written with my adoptive mother, and

14:09 Speaker 7: I was greeted in the driveway by my adoptive brother

14:12 Speaker 7: who just lit me up, just screaming, yelling, you know

14:19 Speaker 7: you won't sing about it. I'm like sing about what.

14:21 Speaker 7: I'm literally here to share a song about Christmas in

14:25 Speaker 7: our hearts all year long, you know, And and I

14:32 Speaker 7: have you know, I lean towards empathy and compassion, especially

14:35 Speaker 7: you know, well, I just lean towards empathy and compassion

14:38 Speaker 7: in general. But you know, we a lot of us

14:40 Speaker 7: have parents siblings that are that are mentally ill, and

14:46 Speaker 7: that mental illness while they don't get access, right, there

14:49 Speaker 7: has to be boundaries they you know, they deserve compassion.

14:54 Speaker 7: Somebody who suffers from any mental illness, it's it's torturess

14:59 Speaker 7: for them. But the havoc they reak, you know, is real,

15:03 Speaker 7: and boundaries have to be in place. And I tend

15:07 Speaker 7: to lean towards the hopeful, right, Yes, that I went

15:10 Speaker 7: and shared and the debut album was coming out, and

15:14 Speaker 7: and it was a firestorm and threats. You talk about anything,

15:20 Speaker 7: we'll sue you. It's like, well, Merry Christmas. I was

15:26 Speaker 7: shocked and I thought, where on earth are they getting

15:31 Speaker 7: this narrative about, like what they're screaming about? And then

15:39 Speaker 7: I realized it wasn't you know, until probably days later,

15:42 Speaker 7: because in full you know, vulnerability, Matt, I left. I

15:48 Speaker 7: left and just burst into tears. And they live in

15:52 Speaker 7: southern California. So I left, you know, and drove and

15:56 Speaker 7: I was way down, you know, driving through Camp Pendleton,

16:00 Speaker 7: heading to San Diego. And I drove until I got

16:04 Speaker 7: to that rest stop that there's a break there on

16:06 Speaker 7: the coast, and I just I just bawled, and I

16:10 Speaker 7: just thought, wow, you know, I'm hopeful. I believe that

16:13 Speaker 7: people can grow and change. And then WHOA, there, I

16:18 Speaker 7: did it. I walked right into it. Didn't see it

16:21 Speaker 7: coming at all, because I truly went to share a

16:23 Speaker 7: song of hope, and part of the Christmas song I wrote,

16:26 Speaker 7: Spirit of Christmas focuses on, you know, an older person

16:30 Speaker 7: being alone on the holidays. Kids are grown, you know,

16:33 Speaker 7: spouses you know are gone for whatever reason, and it

16:39 Speaker 7: identifies with my mom. And yet that that wasn't the focus.

16:46 Speaker 7: So I figured it out. I figured out why they

16:49 Speaker 7: were so upset because I had a promo video that

16:56 Speaker 7: talked about being pinned up against a piano at my cabin.

16:59 Speaker 7: Would I'm referring to my abusive ex husband and my

17:06 Speaker 7: brother literally thought it was him.

17:08 Speaker 4: Oh right right. I remember now when you heard the

17:10 Speaker 4: story before it as.

17:12 Speaker 7: We had a cabin in the local Big Bear Mountains

17:15 Speaker 7: growing up that had a piano in it, and he Matt,

17:17 Speaker 7: he had actually done that, and I had forgotten, and

17:20 Speaker 7: so you know, as it's all coming back, and of course,

17:23 Speaker 7: you know now I'm calling my my counselor. And I

17:26 Speaker 7: was like, wow, okay, you guys are threatening to assue

17:29 Speaker 7: me if I continue to sing and share stories and

17:34 Speaker 7: bring hope and there's forgiveness for the past. It's the past.

17:41 Speaker 7: I can't be doing what I'm doing now. If I

17:43 Speaker 7: can't embrace forgiveness and wholeness, I'd be writing a lot

17:47 Speaker 7: angrier music. Trust me.

17:50 Speaker 10: You know what's kind of wild is so you have

17:52 Speaker 10: something very much in common with another recent guest who

17:56 Speaker 10: we had an author, Natalie Moseley Klanad, who was actually

18:01 Speaker 10: on last week. So she's an author, and we had

18:03 Speaker 10: her on because she had written a book about her

18:05 Speaker 10: son has a CRPS complex Regional pain syndrome and which

18:10 Speaker 10: is what Jenny has. So you know, that's that's how

18:12 Speaker 10: we met Natalie. But she's written several books and one

18:15 Speaker 10: of the books she wrote and forgive me, I can't

18:18 Speaker 10: remember the exact title, but it has to do with

18:21 Speaker 10: her family and the term and I had never heard

18:24 Speaker 10: this term before narc attack because I guess I guess her.

18:29 Speaker 10: I think it was her mother was was a narcissist,

18:32 Speaker 10: and and and and Natalie for you know, for reasons

18:38 Speaker 10: not unlike your reasons. Natalie has no relationship with her

18:44 Speaker 10: family who she grew up with, and and so narc

18:47 Speaker 10: attack refers to, you know, the narcissism that she had

18:50 Speaker 10: to endure from her family. And I had never even

18:54 Speaker 10: heard that term before, narc attack. I mean, I think

18:57 Speaker 10: I think we might have called that when I was

18:59 Speaker 10: when I was in high school. You know, if if

19:02 Speaker 10: you know, hey, that that kid narked us out, you know,

19:04 Speaker 10: we should give him an arc attack for doing that,

19:06 Speaker 10: you know, But I'm kidding, uh sort of.

19:09 Speaker 7: But but I think we're in the same age. I

19:12 Speaker 7: think it had a very different meaning.

19:15 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, well I hear the term narc I I

19:18 Speaker 10: think of something different but abs but but but some

19:22 Speaker 10: of the things And I remember thinking this too as

19:24 Speaker 10: Natalie was speaking on the show about her experience. There

19:29 Speaker 10: are similarities to to your experience with your family, and

19:34 Speaker 10: and I think, if I remember from what she said,

19:36 Speaker 10: she has no, no Jesus not able to have any

19:39 Speaker 10: relationship with the family that she had growing up.

19:41 Speaker 7: So yeah, you can't because it's it's debilitating and and

19:47 Speaker 7: for those of us who've experienced it and then uh

19:53 Speaker 7: have grown and healed and we even offer forgiveness. It's

19:58 Speaker 7: still extraordinarily pain and debilitating when when you have to

20:03 Speaker 7: step back into that and you know, I would absolutely

20:09 Speaker 7: put my adoptive brother in the narcissist category. It was

20:13 Speaker 7: a huge eye opener for me because I really have

20:17 Speaker 7: had no relationship with him since we left the home

20:21 Speaker 7: and left high school and we all went out on

20:23 Speaker 7: our own. Yea, he actually was very troubled in his

20:26 Speaker 7: teens and he should have had narcs called on him.

20:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was.

20:33 Speaker 7: He was, you know, just really in the thick of

20:37 Speaker 7: drugs and alcohol and and just really struggled for the

20:43 Speaker 7: rest of his life. But you know, my adoptive mother

20:47 Speaker 7: has borderline personality disorder, and so that's on the spectrum

20:50 Speaker 7: of narcissism. And so you know, somebody's always the bad

20:56 Speaker 7: child in that scenario. And you know, it doesn't matter

21:00 Speaker 7: how good somebody is as a child or an adult,

21:06 Speaker 7: if that is you know, what they're facing with parents

21:11 Speaker 7: or siblings, you'll never There's nothing you'll ever do that's

21:14 Speaker 7: good enough.

21:15 Speaker 4: You can't win. It's it's an absolutely.

21:19 Speaker 7: There isn't. And so you know, there's a there's a

21:22 Speaker 7: very popular belief and it's difficult, Matt, because we want

21:27 Speaker 7: to be close to our family, and you know that

21:31 Speaker 7: that blood is everything and that you never and I'm like,

21:34 Speaker 7: you know what, it's it's not. We deserve to be

21:37 Speaker 7: treated with respect, and we deserve to be treated with

21:42 Speaker 7: love and kindness and understanding and for how we show

21:45 Speaker 7: up in the world. And if our families do not

21:51 Speaker 7: give us that and we're under attack or we walk

21:54 Speaker 7: into abusive situations even as adults, we don't have to

21:59 Speaker 7: stay and we don't have to have relationship.

22:01 Speaker 1: Right.

22:02 Speaker 10: It's very very and and you talked about it a

22:05 Speaker 10: little bit, it's very difficult when you know they're mentally

22:12 Speaker 10: ill and you so obviously it's in a sense it's well,

22:17 Speaker 10: I shouldn't say in a sense it's not. It's not

22:18 Speaker 10: their fault that they're you know that they're mentally ill.

22:21 Speaker 10: But so of course you want to have love and compassion,

22:23 Speaker 10: especially when it's a family member. But that doesn't mean

22:26 Speaker 10: you're obligated to let them drag you down. And it

22:29 Speaker 10: also doesn't mean that you know, I mean, you have

22:33 Speaker 10: to you have to protect yourself ultimately, and and they

22:39 Speaker 10: they may not understand that, especially if there's narcissism involved.

22:43 Speaker 10: They won't understand that they're not capable of feeling that

22:48 Speaker 10: that empathy. And again it's not their fault, it's how

22:51 Speaker 10: their brain is wired. But ultimately, you have to do

22:55 Speaker 10: what you have to do.

22:55 Speaker 7: You have to do.

22:57 Speaker 4: You have to protect yourself, you have to protect you know,

22:59 Speaker 4: in your case, you have to protect your daughter. You know, yes,

23:03 Speaker 4: so uh so, so it's very very tricky. I I

23:07 Speaker 4: I don't.

23:07 Speaker 1: I don't.

23:08 Speaker 10: I'm not even sure how I would handle that if

23:10 Speaker 10: I were in that situation. I mean, unfortunately, I you know,

23:13 Speaker 10: I I have a good relationships with my family. I

23:17 Speaker 10: didn't I had, I did have a step parent. I'll

23:21 Speaker 10: keep it vague in case they not that I think

23:24 Speaker 10: they are listening or care about anything that I do.

23:26 Speaker 10: This particular individual I'm thinking of, But I did have

23:29 Speaker 10: a step parent growing up who exhibited a lot of

23:33 Speaker 10: strange behavior and and in some instances I think, uh

23:37 Speaker 10: definitely was unreasonable to deal with shall we say, but

23:42 Speaker 10: but but but that individual also was mentally ill. They

23:48 Speaker 10: had had a multiple nervous breakdowns and so forth. So

23:51 Speaker 10: I try to keep that in mind when I think about,

23:56 Speaker 10: you know, certain interactions that I had with that person

23:58 Speaker 10: when I look back as an adult or when I

24:00 Speaker 10: was growing up, and I would think, well, that's kind

24:02 Speaker 10: of messed up, you know, and I don't think I

24:06 Speaker 10: deserve it, and I don't think I deserve the way

24:08 Speaker 10: I was just spoken to. And you know, I think

24:11 Speaker 10: I was being the mature one in the relationship, whereas

24:13 Speaker 10: they're the adult. But you know, but but again, I

24:16 Speaker 10: try to look back at that with well, I don't

24:19 Speaker 10: know what was going on in their head and exactly,

24:24 Speaker 10: and I'll probably never understand it. And it's not like

24:26 Speaker 10: I have any contact with that person today. I don't

24:29 Speaker 10: and haven't for decades, not because of any sort of

24:33 Speaker 10: intentional separation.

24:35 Speaker 4: But because just they moved away, and I don't.

24:40 Speaker 10: You know, I'm one of those people who I don't

24:45 Speaker 10: I'm not the guy who's going to reach out and say, hey,

24:48 Speaker 10: we haven't talked in a long time, just seeing how

24:49 Speaker 10: you're doing. Not because I don't care, but because I

24:53 Speaker 10: just I'm just not the person who does that, you know.

24:57 Speaker 10: So if they reached out to me, I would talk

24:59 Speaker 10: to them.

24:59 Speaker 4: Certainly. I don't have any anger or resentment.

25:02 Speaker 7: But but well, you know, Matt, that's I love that

25:05 Speaker 7: you said that, because even now, if certain boundaries were respected,

25:13 Speaker 7: I would have you know, my door is still open.

25:17 Speaker 7: It's it's you know, my one of my one of

25:20 Speaker 7: my counselors said to me, uh, somebody that I you know,

25:25 Speaker 7: you know I've moved and somebody from Washington State that

25:28 Speaker 7: I used to see. She said something about, you know,

25:30 Speaker 7: as we were working through how to have a relationship

25:34 Speaker 7: or what what does it look like in a relationship

25:37 Speaker 7: with a family member that's a narcissist, a parent, you know,

25:39 Speaker 7: for instance, or borderline personality disorder, And one of the

25:43 Speaker 7: things she said was, you know, you have to look

25:46 Speaker 7: at yourself like your body or who you are is

25:51 Speaker 7: like a castle, right, and you've got this moat around you,

25:55 Speaker 7: so this body of water that circles us, right, and

25:58 Speaker 7: then you have a drawbridge, and the drawbridge for access

26:02 Speaker 7: to you is are those boundaries whatever you need for

26:06 Speaker 7: yourself to feel safe emotionally and physically, because you know,

26:11 Speaker 7: many of us I have been the subject of not

26:14 Speaker 7: just extreme emotional abuse, I have been the subject of

26:18 Speaker 7: extreme physical abuse. And so now do I fear physical

26:24 Speaker 7: abuse from my eighty five year old mother today? No,

26:28 Speaker 7: of course, not the emotional absolutely, do I physically you know,

26:33 Speaker 7: when I was in the presence of my adoptive brother,

26:36 Speaker 7: did I absolutely fear for my life physically? Yes, he

26:42 Speaker 7: was off the chart, like just crazy and angry. I

26:47 Speaker 7: was like, wow, I felt like I was, you know,

26:50 Speaker 7: thirteen years old again. But there's access for relation ship

27:00 Speaker 7: if these boundaries are kept, and if you do not

27:05 Speaker 7: keep these boundaries, the drawbridges up and you do not

27:07 Speaker 7: have access to me. So I have lowered my drawbridge

27:11 Speaker 7: many times and said, hey, here is how you have

27:14 Speaker 7: access to a relationship with me. And they are constantly violated. Yeah,

27:20 Speaker 7: and so like even this year, Matt I got a

27:23 Speaker 7: Christmas card and I kind of joke. I'm like, gosh, Mom,

27:25 Speaker 7: could you just leave it to Hallmark? Just leave the

27:30 Speaker 7: sentiment to Hallmark. We do not need to add this

27:33 Speaker 7: is the second year in a row nastiness, right, And

27:37 Speaker 7: I keep thinking of like, but I wrote Spirit of

27:39 Speaker 7: Christmas for you. Oh, I'm like, okay, let's move on.

27:46 Speaker 7: And but yeah, I think that that's you know, where

27:51 Speaker 7: I land on it. You know, I know and I

27:54 Speaker 7: respect some of my friends who have like zero we

27:56 Speaker 7: have no contact with Okay, you know, we all have

27:59 Speaker 7: to do what we need to do to feel safe

28:02 Speaker 7: for ourselves and for the loved ones around us that

28:05 Speaker 7: you know, whether they you know, my kids are grown

28:08 Speaker 7: and gone, but I'm still a mom. Yeah, I'm still

28:13 Speaker 7: very protective of and they can fight their own battles.

28:16 Speaker 7: But you know, I think all of us who have kids,

28:21 Speaker 7: you know, it doesn't matter if they're thirty plus. Touched

28:24 Speaker 7: my kid and you're going to see a.

28:25 Speaker 4: Whole different person, right of course. Of course?

28:28 Speaker 13: Yeah.

28:28 Speaker 7: Absolutely.

28:29 Speaker 10: Do you hear as you've released because you've released how

28:33 Speaker 10: many albums do you have at this point? You've released

28:35 Speaker 10: a few, right, So I have.

28:37 Speaker 7: Only released the debut, but I've got you know them

28:42 Speaker 7: in Q.

28:42 Speaker 4: Oh okay, gotcha?

28:44 Speaker 10: Yeah, So since the debut and by the way, one

28:47 Speaker 10: of them was considered for a Grammy nomination.

28:50 Speaker 4: Is that correct?

28:52 Speaker 7: The or a Grammy consideration. So the Nancy it's it's

28:56 Speaker 7: self titled, so it's Nancy Manet and it's my debut album,

28:59 Speaker 7: the one that I came in and chatted with you

29:01 Speaker 7: about those couple of times that did receive Grammy consideration

29:06 Speaker 7: this year and for Best Rock Album and Best Engineering

29:11 Speaker 7: Non Classical, And I would be I would not be

29:18 Speaker 7: honest with you, Matt if I wasn't surprised, and you know,

29:20 Speaker 7: my producer laughs, he goes, you shouldn't be so surprised, Aunty.

29:23 Speaker 7: It was good stuff, and I was like, yeah, but

29:26 Speaker 7: you know, I mean, I'm in a sea of genius

29:29 Speaker 7: and I've just and I love artists, and I'm cheerleading

29:33 Speaker 7: all of us on, you know, in our art and

29:37 Speaker 7: to receive that so early on in releasing what I'm writing, right,

29:44 Speaker 7: I'm not early on in my musical performance or even career.

29:50 Speaker 7: I've been playing for years, you know, you and I've talked.

29:53 Speaker 7: I mean, that was part of that's part of my story.

29:55 Speaker 7: I played, you know, under the threat of vice lens

30:01 Speaker 7: in my home growing up, after my dad died, I

30:04 Speaker 7: could not play piano when anyone was home. It was

30:07 Speaker 7: never going to happen. And then I picked up a small,

30:11 Speaker 7: little acoustic guitar from a garage sale for five bucks

30:14 Speaker 7: with the pitch pipe and learned to play guitar at

30:17 Speaker 7: two in the morning, you know, as a teenager having

30:20 Speaker 7: to go to school at seven am. I think I

30:24 Speaker 7: slept through my first three periods every day my junior

30:27 Speaker 7: and senior year of high school because I was up

30:29 Speaker 7: playing guitar and so I'm not new to the world

30:34 Speaker 7: of music, but I'm new to writing and releasing my

30:38 Speaker 7: own music, and so it was an extraordinary honor and

30:45 Speaker 7: just to be considered with a group of amazing artists.

30:50 Speaker 4: So no, that's remarkable. Do you hear from people who

30:56 Speaker 4: identify with the themes of your songs?

31:00 Speaker 7: Yes? In fact, I hear from women on about the

31:08 Speaker 7: song that I wrote called Wanted and how I got

31:11 Speaker 7: free of an abusive relationship and I really just kind

31:15 Speaker 7: of hit it straight on. And I hear from a

31:20 Speaker 7: lot of men about don't let her ruin you. Yeah, crying,

31:26 Speaker 7: thank you, Oh my gosh, how did you know? You

31:30 Speaker 7: wrote a song about our life? And that means more

31:35 Speaker 7: to me than anything, you know, because that's what it's for.

31:38 Speaker 7: It's to relate and hopefully other people identify and find

31:42 Speaker 7: their own path right to what makes them whole, right

31:49 Speaker 7: and the freedom within that. Yeah. I also heard from

31:54 Speaker 7: actually belonged to a group called Serendipity Doudan. It's a

31:58 Speaker 7: Mama Bears group for uh mamas that are the parents

32:03 Speaker 7: of lgbt q i A children and even adult children,

32:08 Speaker 7: and and they were very excited about the song My Expansion,

32:15 Speaker 7: which was about my daughter coming out as queer and

32:18 Speaker 7: changing me early in her in her life.

32:21 Speaker 10: So yeah, that's probably relatable for for so many people.

32:28 Speaker 10: So that makes sense. I'm not surprised that you've heard

32:32 Speaker 10: from people about that.

32:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was when you say that changed to you?

32:38 Speaker 4: How did did it?

32:39 Speaker 10: Did it just kind of give you a different perspective

32:41 Speaker 10: on uh, because you'll often hear people say, you know,

32:45 Speaker 10: I had certain ideas about what, you know, what it

32:48 Speaker 10: was like to be lgbt Q plus or whatever, and

32:50 Speaker 10: then and then a family member comes out and it

32:53 Speaker 10: and you kind of go, I think for a lot

32:55 Speaker 10: this is my perception is I think for a lot

32:57 Speaker 10: of people it.

32:58 Speaker 4: Kind of.

32:59 Speaker 10: I'm thinking, I mean, we don't we don't really get

33:01 Speaker 10: into politics on this iteration of the show, but I'm

33:04 Speaker 10: thinking of a couple of so I'll be a little

33:06 Speaker 10: bit vague, but there are a couple of well known,

33:10 Speaker 10: very conservative politicians who have at various points come out

33:17 Speaker 10: as being pro marriage equality because they had children who

33:22 Speaker 10: were gay and it so on that one issue they

33:25 Speaker 10: departed from their conservatism because having a family member who's

33:29 Speaker 10: gay kind of makes you go, oh, okay, so real

33:34 Speaker 10: human beings can be this way, and I love this person.

33:38 Speaker 10: And because I love this person and they are this way,

33:41 Speaker 10: I guess being this way is okay, you know, for

33:45 Speaker 10: lack of a better way of putting it. So, I mean,

33:47 Speaker 10: I'm curious how it changed you when your daughter came out.

33:50 Speaker 7: So so I love what you just everything you just said, Matt,

33:53 Speaker 7: even that this is not a political show, right, I'm

33:56 Speaker 7: I'm not a for I got. I would describe myself

34:02 Speaker 7: as I am not a political activist. I look at

34:06 Speaker 7: myself and what I mean by that, I mean, while

34:08 Speaker 7: I have my belief systems, and I absolutely support my

34:11 Speaker 7: friends like Jen right absolutely stand there for your healthcare rights.

34:17 Speaker 7: But I'm a writer and I'm a bridge builder, and

34:20 Speaker 7: you know, we all have our places. What I stand

34:23 Speaker 7: next to Jen for her fight, you bet you you know.

34:26 Speaker 7: But there's a different level of I think when people

34:30 Speaker 7: like that's their purpose in life is that they are

34:32 Speaker 7: on the front lines in some of these fights. For me,

34:36 Speaker 7: I'm I if anything that I write just get people

34:41 Speaker 7: to think, being able to have conversations, whether or not

34:47 Speaker 7: we one hundred percent agree with each other, That's not

34:49 Speaker 7: what this is about We were never even I mean,

34:52 Speaker 7: humans were never intended to one hundred percent agree. We

34:56 Speaker 7: were intended to figure things out and come to solution

35:00 Speaker 7: that work. Right. So if whatever I write can create

35:04 Speaker 7: a people that maybe are thinking about it, but then

35:08 Speaker 7: oh okay, well let's have a discussion about these topics

35:13 Speaker 7: like this one. We don't have to make it extremely political,

35:17 Speaker 7: even though it can divide us politically.

35:19 Speaker 10: Right.

35:21 Speaker 7: But I was raised very conservative, very rigid, right, wrong,

35:30 Speaker 7: black white. I mean it was intense and very I

35:34 Speaker 7: mean rigid, religious conservative, And so I entered the world

35:44 Speaker 7: as an adult with this. That's all I knew was

35:49 Speaker 7: that was the way. There's one and it's this one, right,

35:54 Speaker 7: And then I have this beautiful baby girl who just

36:00 Speaker 7: from the day of birth, she just wrote her own way.

36:04 Speaker 7: I mean it was like and as she got older,

36:08 Speaker 7: I watched other friends who were rigid and conservative and

36:12 Speaker 7: ultra I call it like a damaging religion, religious religiosity right, uh,

36:20 Speaker 7: where it's an US versus them and there's very little inclusivity.

36:24 Speaker 7: And whether listeners or you know, anybody that I talked

36:27 Speaker 7: to lean towards religion at all, I would say the

36:30 Speaker 7: overarching message in healthy religions.

36:32 Speaker 4: Is love, right, Yeah, that's.

36:35 Speaker 7: Love one another.

36:37 Speaker 10: I think, I think, uh, I think Jesus might have

36:39 Speaker 10: even said something about that.

36:41 Speaker 4: Possibly correct, he might have. I don't know, perhaps so.

36:50 Speaker 7: And so here is this young girl five years old,

36:55 Speaker 7: and she's already challenging me on my belief systems. And

36:59 Speaker 7: I'm watching friends who had the same upbringing, conservative, rigid

37:03 Speaker 7: religious ultra, you know, the unhealthy sides of religion, and

37:09 Speaker 7: they're losing their kids, and the kids are getting older

37:13 Speaker 7: and kids are starting to rebel. And I thought, you know,

37:17 Speaker 7: Hannah really challenged just from the time she was little.

37:23 Speaker 7: Why why why? Why why do you think that way?

37:29 Speaker 7: Because you know, and then as parents, because that's what

37:32 Speaker 7: I was taught, therefore we teach that to you. And

37:35 Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, I don't know if I like

37:36 Speaker 7: that answer, right, And then we also are the famous

37:40 Speaker 7: line of parents because I said.

37:42 Speaker 4: So, why well, well, uh?

37:47 Speaker 7: And I taught her early on, I said, look, if

37:50 Speaker 7: you disagree with me, we have just a few ground rules,

37:54 Speaker 7: and you can always come and talk to me about

37:57 Speaker 7: a decision I made, or even a thought process. It's

38:00 Speaker 7: you know, a decision based upon a thinking way of thinking.

38:03 Speaker 7: You can come and talk to me about it. And

38:05 Speaker 7: if you present your case respectfully, articulately, with no with

38:14 Speaker 7: no temper tantrum, I promise you, excuse me, I promise

38:21 Speaker 7: you I will consider and change my mind. If I

38:25 Speaker 7: said notice something, I will I will absolutely consider and

38:29 Speaker 7: change it to yes. However, if you come and screaming,

38:34 Speaker 7: the answer is a hard no, and you will not

38:35 Speaker 7: even we will not even talk.

38:37 Speaker 4: Yeah.

38:38 Speaker 7: So I'm serious, Matt five years old on. I think

38:42 Speaker 7: I raised the greatest debater of all times.

38:45 Speaker 2: Yeah.

38:47 Speaker 7: And so so when she challenged, let's go bring that

38:49 Speaker 7: back to a circle. So when she challenged me, why mom?

38:53 Speaker 7: As she got older and she came out as queer,

38:57 Speaker 7: I was like, oh, okay, And I had already been

39:00 Speaker 7: evolving and changing, and I've been asking questions of like

39:02 Speaker 7: and I'd have to be quiet if I was, you know,

39:06 Speaker 7: in a group of people who did not accept LGBTQ

39:11 Speaker 7: I a right. I actually had to be quiet because

39:17 Speaker 7: if I stood up for my daughter or that community

39:20 Speaker 7: at the time, I was subject to judgment and right.

39:26 Speaker 7: And so that took a long time for me to

39:29 Speaker 7: really kind of walk through. And I watched and then

39:32 Speaker 7: had continual conversations with my daughter, and I grew I

39:36 Speaker 7: just that's you know. So No, I didn't actually have

39:38 Speaker 7: a really open understanding of how parents could change their

39:45 Speaker 7: belief systems until my daughter really just kept asking why.

39:52 Speaker 7: And then I thought, well, because that's the way it

39:54 Speaker 7: was at my family table growing up. So let me

39:56 Speaker 7: think about do I believe what they taught?

40:01 Speaker 3: Uh?

40:02 Speaker 7: Maybe I don't. What other belief systems are out there?

40:04 Speaker 7: And what are other you know, sides of the political

40:09 Speaker 7: spectrum even saying, let me listen to what they have

40:12 Speaker 7: to say. Yeah, And all of a sudden, I entered

40:15 Speaker 7: a very different phase of my life. And I call

40:17 Speaker 7: it balanced, I suppose now. Of course I lean way.

40:22 Speaker 7: Of course I lean more liberal than I ever did.

40:25 Speaker 7: Do I have some conservative thought processes? Still? Sure, you know,

40:29 Speaker 7: born and raised in it, you you have thoughts and ideas.

40:33 Speaker 7: But I look at it very differently today, and and

40:37 Speaker 7: I'm curious to see how any side of the political

40:41 Speaker 7: spectrum is going to help solve what we're facing in

40:44 Speaker 7: our country and as on a world stage, we have

40:48 Speaker 7: to solve it. People are starving, people need medical care,

40:53 Speaker 7: people need housing, three basic needs. And I don't I

40:58 Speaker 7: don't think it's just because you know, there are varying

41:03 Speaker 7: degrees of how people can earn and how people can

41:05 Speaker 7: make a living. And I don't think that if you

41:09 Speaker 7: can't make a living the way I do, you shouldn't

41:11 Speaker 7: have a roof over your head. Do I have the answers?

41:14 Speaker 7: I don't. But you know, bring this back full circle. This,

41:18 Speaker 7: you know, young adult still has very challenging conversations. And

41:24 Speaker 7: one of the conversations we had that led me into

41:27 Speaker 7: writing Set Us Free was, Mom, we don't want what

41:33 Speaker 7: you built. Well, I don't understand what that means. Look

41:35 Speaker 7: at your life, mom, because I've been in business my

41:37 Speaker 7: whole life for myself. Yeah, since you've spent your whole

41:41 Speaker 7: life grinding, grind, grind, grind, and you've built, and you've

41:44 Speaker 7: built and you've built. You know, we always upgrade our

41:47 Speaker 7: homes and then we buy investment homes or we have

41:49 Speaker 7: investment you know, retirement. Since she said, we don't want that.

41:52 Speaker 7: We want to live in community, We want to take

41:55 Speaker 7: care of each other. We don't want to be what

41:58 Speaker 7: you guys have built. I don't know if you understand that.

42:01 Speaker 7: It's like, oh, and I tell you, Matt, it actually

42:05 Speaker 7: caused me to think about what I build and even

42:11 Speaker 7: present day, Like as early as this setis Free song

42:14 Speaker 7: was written last year. It's like, huh, I could go

42:18 Speaker 7: about life that's without the grind. I don't have to grind, grind,

42:22 Speaker 7: grind rite. Whoa. So here's this thirty two year old,

42:27 Speaker 7: you know, beautiful human, still challenging her mom, you know.

42:33 Speaker 7: And then and then you know, I don't know if

42:35 Speaker 7: I told you this when I saw you last, but

42:38 Speaker 7: I got hit really hard by Hurricane Beryl, and I

42:42 Speaker 7: had to come home from tour and really adjust the

42:45 Speaker 7: latter half of my last year. And I sat my

42:48 Speaker 7: kids down and I said, how do you feel about

42:50 Speaker 7: me downsizing and moving and making life a lot simpler?

42:54 Speaker 7: And they're like, we're all for it.

42:55 Speaker 9: Mom.

42:56 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, because because you know, I would like to

42:59 Speaker 7: be to be on the road for months on end

43:02 Speaker 7: and not have to worry about the thing that you know,

43:05 Speaker 7: we all want to hang on to, and and for me,

43:07 Speaker 7: it was just too much. And I thought, but that's

43:10 Speaker 7: a conversation with my kid that because I'm open to

43:15 Speaker 7: thinking about things differently, well, I agree with everything. No,

43:19 Speaker 7: do I even understand it. She's discussed economics with me,

43:22 Speaker 7: and it's gone over my head. In fact, i've not

43:23 Speaker 7: because I economics go over my head.

43:26 Speaker 14: Her economics go over my head, right right, I understand

43:30 Speaker 14: current economics macro and micro, you know, but as she

43:35 Speaker 14: described how economics could could change, I actually did say

43:40 Speaker 14: to her, I said, okay, you know when we had

43:42 Speaker 14: the you know, the gay and queer conversation early on

43:45 Speaker 14: in life, and I asked you lots of questions, I said,

43:49 Speaker 14: now I want to even ask you more because this

43:51 Speaker 14: is like speaking Greek to me.

43:53 Speaker 7: You can think about how we go about our economy

43:56 Speaker 7: totally different, and people can take care of each other

44:00 Speaker 7: in a way that's sustainable. My mind was just blown

44:04 Speaker 7: when we initially started having those conversations. So I've made

44:08 Speaker 7: her promise. I said, you know, as many times as

44:10 Speaker 7: I ask you questions, please stay patient. Right. You know,

44:15 Speaker 7: we have these roadmaps in our brain, right. I think

44:17 Speaker 7: anybody that has done any kind of therapy we get

44:22 Speaker 7: you know, this even is how we see the world.

44:24 Speaker 7: We have a roadmap. And if we were raised to

44:27 Speaker 7: see the roadmap in a certain way, you know, especially

44:30 Speaker 7: about how economy is built or world power is built,

44:34 Speaker 7: and it's a very difficult mindset to change. Yes, but

44:38 Speaker 7: it's possible to rewrite those roadmaps if we slow down

44:45 Speaker 7: and listen and are open to having these conversations and bosh,

44:50 Speaker 7: if I can create those in the music that I

44:54 Speaker 7: write and then also bring hope. I think most of

44:58 Speaker 7: what I write, if not all, of what I write,

45:01 Speaker 7: ultimately ends with some type of hope statement within it.

45:08 Speaker 10: Yes, yes, I have noticed that. Absolutely, Absolutely, Nancy, we're

45:13 Speaker 10: gonna have to start. The time goes so quickly, we're

45:16 Speaker 10: gonna have to start to wrap up. Unfortunately, I wish,

45:18 Speaker 10: I wish we had more time. It's it's always such

45:20 Speaker 10: a great conversation with you, and I think, if you

45:23 Speaker 10: don't mind, I'm going to close the segment with because

45:26 Speaker 10: we were talking about this song my expansion. I think

45:30 Speaker 10: that would be I think that would be a great

45:32 Speaker 10: way to close. And of course we opened with the

45:33 Speaker 10: new single set us Free and absolutely, and we should

45:38 Speaker 10: remind people too before you go where they should go

45:42 Speaker 10: online to keep up with everything that you're doing.

45:44 Speaker 4: And of course Matt, that's very kind of course.

45:47 Speaker 7: Yes, So please find me on social media. I am

45:53 Speaker 7: very active on Facebook. So if you find Nancy MiNet,

45:57 Speaker 7: m a n e T. I have a verified check mark.

46:01 Speaker 7: You'll see me sitting at a piano. Please follow, Please

46:05 Speaker 7: send me a direct message. I respond to all of them.

46:08 Speaker 7: Just let me know that you you know, heard me here.

46:12 Speaker 7: And then my website as well. We're in the process

46:15 Speaker 7: of updating, so if you fill out information with an email,

46:19 Speaker 7: but in the next couple of weeks, a refreshed websitees

46:22 Speaker 7: going up with the new material and a new traveling schedule,

46:26 Speaker 7: things like that. So that's at Nancymanet dot com. I'm

46:31 Speaker 7: also on Instagram, but I'm newer to Instagram. I joke

46:34 Speaker 7: about it. It's because my age my age group was

46:37 Speaker 7: heavily invested in Facebook. Yes, so I try to cross

46:42 Speaker 7: post and do all that. And then you know, also

46:45 Speaker 7: I'm uploading things to YouTube. You know, I'm not a

46:48 Speaker 7: I'm not a millennial or a gen z. So we're

46:51 Speaker 7: we're I'm figuring out that other side of communications, you know,

46:56 Speaker 7: every day.

46:56 Speaker 4: So yeah, I just got to be as many as

46:59 Speaker 4: many places as possible.

47:00 Speaker 6: You know.

47:00 Speaker 10: Absolutely, I've been thinking about doing more with TikTok. No

47:03 Speaker 10: I'm kidding, obviously, it's about it's about to go dark.

47:07 Speaker 10: For anyone who doesn't know you want to know.

47:08 Speaker 7: It's funny, Matt is. I tried so hard to share

47:12 Speaker 7: on the TikTok, but every single time I upload stuff

47:15 Speaker 7: that's not your music, you can't. I'm like, I even

47:17 Speaker 7: had to send information into their legal department all that

47:20 Speaker 7: you're not that's not yours. I'm like, I'm the copyright owner.

47:23 Speaker 7: Please let me, please let me upload.

47:25 Speaker 4: My music exactly I have.

47:28 Speaker 7: It's like, really, yeah, unused TikTok account. But yes, that

47:33 Speaker 7: is actually funny, Matt. Yeah, well or not, I mean,

47:36 Speaker 7: however we want to see it.

47:37 Speaker 10: Yeah, I know, I actually feel badly for a lot

47:39 Speaker 10: of people, but yeah, but uh no, it'll be it'll

47:44 Speaker 10: be interesting to see what happens next with that.

47:46 Speaker 4: But Nancy Manet, thank you so much. Always such a

47:49 Speaker 4: pleasure to have you on.

47:50 Speaker 10: I always enjoy the discussion, and thank you absolutely and

47:54 Speaker 10: congratulations on everything. And uh, we'll let you go, and

47:56 Speaker 10: we'll close out, uh with this song my expansion. And

47:59 Speaker 10: then for those of you listening live on Saturday, Quincy

48:02 Speaker 10: Raymond is coming up next. He's going to play live

48:04 Speaker 10: in studio for us.

48:05 Speaker 4: But we'll let you go. Nancy, thank you again so much.

48:08 Speaker 7: Yes, Thank you Matt, and much love to Jen.

48:10 Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you you both. Okay, thank you, bye bye,

48:13 Speaker 4: all right, the great Nancy Manet. And here it is.

48:16 Speaker 4: This is called my expansion. This is a this is

48:18 Speaker 4: a really good song.

48:35 Speaker 2: You to the world. Okayver except status quod today, blaze

48:54 Speaker 2: the trail that was all your old even though being queer,

49:04 Speaker 2: it's not well known when on those are wearing Hollo

49:15 Speaker 2: shirts you are tattooed.

49:21 Speaker 7: On under your skirt.

49:25 Speaker 2: Being like that, okay, you'll begs to proceed.

49:37 Speaker 4: In your special way. O Harbie Hicks Band.

49:48 Speaker 5: Dry Harby.

50:02 Speaker 3: It's bad.

50:23 Speaker 5: You taught me to think.

50:27 Speaker 2: That the world was not ass rigid ass I show

50:35 Speaker 2: it to be.

50:39 Speaker 3: You have been my eyes. There is so much more to.

50:48 Speaker 2: Conceiveer than allys before.

50:56 Speaker 7: You don't believe.

51:00 Speaker 2: Exactly what I do has engage no world. It's the

51:10 Speaker 2: authentic you.

51:13 Speaker 6: Your path is your path.

51:16 Speaker 2: It's not.

51:18 Speaker 7: Might judge.

51:20 Speaker 5: My job is to love you, love run about harmy

51:33 Speaker 5: expert job harm I expand jump.

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