Field Dispatch
Matt Connarton Unleashed 10-11-25 hour 2
Game Plan
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Speaker 10: That is she Chose Me by Kyle Gordon. I love
Speaker 10: everything about that song. That is a perfect song. I
Speaker 10: think we have Kyle on the line.
Speaker 11: Kyle are you there, can you hear me? Yes, Yes,
Speaker 11: welcome to the show, my friend. That is so good.
Speaker 11: I love that song so much. I love everything about
Speaker 11: it absolutely.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I haven't heard it in a whole it'sunding good.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you got a little bit of a like in
Speaker 10: the chorus there. You got a little bit of a
Speaker 10: motown thing there. I love the so that guitar solo
Speaker 10: is perfect. Everything about it. It's just it's a perfect
Speaker 10: song because there's nothing you could do to that to
Speaker 10: make it better. It's it's perfect.
Speaker 11: I love it well.
Speaker 8: It means a lot, thank you. I had very little
Speaker 8: to do with that solo. I was I was blissfully
Speaker 8: out of the room when that happened. Yeah, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 8: I'm not like a I'm not a great musician. I'm
Speaker 8: just more of a songwriter.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So when we were in the studio, that was this
Speaker 8: is this this album that this is the first song
Speaker 8: off the album. Is the first time that I ever
Speaker 8: got out of my own way to not do all
Speaker 8: the instrumentation on a song. All I'm doing on that
Speaker 8: song is the drums and the guitars. I'm sorry, the
Speaker 8: acoustic guitars. I'm doing all the singing, but my very
Speaker 8: good friend Nick Whitson is doing the bass and the guitar,
Speaker 8: and then Chris, my friend Chris Simpson, is also doing
Speaker 8: some bass. So a lot of that instrumentation is just
Speaker 8: so beautiful and I'm I'm proud of it because I
Speaker 8: had absolutely nothing to do with it. Yeah, man, I
Speaker 8: think that's that's when collaboration, you know, is at its finest.
Speaker 8: So yeah, thank you so much for playing it, and
Speaker 8: I haven't heard it in a little while, and I
Speaker 8: really enjoyed it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Good, it's really good. Do you uh do you perform
Speaker 11: that live? Do you play out?
Speaker 8: Yeah? I play out, but not as not as Kyle
Speaker 8: Bordon yet. My career has kind of been a weird. Yeah.
Speaker 8: As of right now, I'm playing under two names, Mama
Speaker 8: Bear and Anthems. This new Yeah, this new project Anthems
Speaker 8: is is it. It's fantastic. It's a rock project. But
Speaker 8: the Kyle Gordon stuff kind of represents songs that I
Speaker 8: write that that don't see the light of the day,
Speaker 8: my rock and roll projects. Okay, so because I write
Speaker 8: all kinds of music, man, so this to me what
Speaker 8: I like about the Kyle Gordon project. It's a lot
Speaker 8: slicker and a lot more refined than all my other projects.
Speaker 8: And a lot of that, again has to do with
Speaker 8: the fact that I'm not doing mostly instrumentation anymore. Okay,
Speaker 8: I just yeah, I come into a studio with a
Speaker 8: song idea, I record what I think is the song,
Speaker 8: and then when we're done with it, it's almost it's
Speaker 8: almost unrecognizable. And I know you and I have never
Speaker 8: really spoken. You don't really know anything about me, but
Speaker 8: I've been making music for twenty five years. I'm super yeah,
Speaker 8: and I'm super proud of this album because it represents
Speaker 8: something I've never done before. And the whole maximum is
Speaker 8: the only rule was we can't do what we've done
Speaker 8: in the past, right, you know, Like there's like no big, huge,
Speaker 8: booming electric guitars, you know, or so I'm not screaming
Speaker 8: every point. I have to make a lot more crooning
Speaker 8: and stuff like that, and just trying to flex muscles
Speaker 8: that I've never flexed on a studio before. So yeah, man,
Speaker 8: it's a I got a lot of really cool songs
Speaker 8: to show y'all. This is just the first one, and
Speaker 8: I'm so excited. It's nice to meet you. How's your day?
Speaker 9: One.
Speaker 11: Yeah, very well, very well, thank you.
Speaker 10: No, I've been looking forward to talking about them because,
Speaker 10: like I said, I love that song so much. Is
Speaker 10: it important to you to because you've got other projects too,
Speaker 10: Is it important to you to have multiple things where
Speaker 10: you can kind of explore different genres or different different
Speaker 10: approaches to creating music.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, I like to compartmentalize things, like Mama Bear
Speaker 8: is my little indie project. Okay, I'll always I'll stick
Speaker 8: like two artistic songs on it, but the rest of
Speaker 8: it's just like a very indie garage rock project. And
Speaker 8: then Anthems I'm creating with my very good friend Houston B,
Speaker 8: who was in a band called Heavy Mojo and they
Speaker 8: were very popular, kind of like this rap rock thing.
Speaker 8: And B is such a good songwriter, So he and
Speaker 8: I are doing stuff with Anthems, and it's like we
Speaker 8: call it industrial strength R and B interested kind of
Speaker 8: like punk and R and B mixed together. And so
Speaker 8: and I grew up in Atlanta.
Speaker 11: I'm sorry, Oh, I just said, Really that sounds interesting.
Speaker 11: I want to hear some of that. Definitely.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's really good. In the middle of finishing an
Speaker 8: album and an EP, we put out an EP last
Speaker 8: summer and we're torn around. We're going to go to
Speaker 8: England next year with it, and I'm super stoked about that.
Speaker 11: Excellent.
Speaker 8: But yeah, man, so I compartmentalize my music so that
Speaker 8: so the Kyle Gordon stuff is kind of like it's
Speaker 8: like an indie pop thing, I guess you could call it. Yeah,
Speaker 8: And I like, I like making pop music, you knew?
Speaker 10: Yeah, what's the music scene like? I mean, obviously, so
Speaker 10: you're in Atlanta? Now, did you grow up there?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, I did all my formative views here in Ato.
Speaker 10: Okay, Okay, what's the music scene like there? I would imagine.
Speaker 10: I would imagine it's a lot of different kinds of things,
Speaker 10: which which is probably why you're into, uh, you know,
Speaker 10: making different kinds of music and compartmentalizing it.
Speaker 11: I assume, yeah.
Speaker 8: Is that? Yeah, Well, growing up in Atlanta, you know,
Speaker 8: hip hop is very pervasive. I grew up in the
Speaker 8: early nineties, so I remember, I remember hip hop, I
Speaker 8: remember R and B, and then I remember Nirvana.
Speaker 11: Yep.
Speaker 8: My mom raised me with the Beatles, and so I
Speaker 8: think all those like the the aggressiveness and the accessibility
Speaker 8: of Nirvana coupled with the brilliance of the Beatles, and
Speaker 8: then like this, the rhythm, the rhythm heaviness of hip
Speaker 8: hop was a huge influence on me. I think if
Speaker 8: you're writing a song and people aren't moving around to it,
Speaker 8: then you did you did? You missed the point, right,
Speaker 8: you know, Like it's it's great to connect with people
Speaker 8: through lyrics, it's it's awesome to do all that, but
Speaker 8: if they're not moving their body like that's unless it's
Speaker 8: unless it's classical, or it's not just to do that. Sure,
Speaker 8: but you know, I think that's what's cool about music
Speaker 8: is it's it just gets inside you and you don't
Speaker 8: know why you're moving, but you're just moving and it
Speaker 8: feels city. I'm good to do it. So yeah, like Atlanta,
Speaker 8: the music scene in Atlanta has always been very vibrant,
Speaker 8: like you're talking about, and I'm sure every town could
Speaker 8: say the same thing. I don't think that Atlanta is
Speaker 8: better than the other town, but I do think Atlanta
Speaker 8: is very unique in the sense that when I was
Speaker 8: going up, like all kinds of bands blew up on
Speaker 8: a national level that I knew personally, you know, they
Speaker 8: were doing their thing. And so Atlanta has a very vibrant,
Speaker 8: rich scene. I'm currently I'm raising two little kids, so
Speaker 8: I'm kind of not in the scene anymore. Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm mainly just recording and playing shows these days. But
Speaker 8: I mean there's those kids are still there on there
Speaker 8: messing stuff up and breaking things in the right way. Yeah,
Speaker 8: you're supposed to, and God bless them, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 8: like you're only you're only in your in twenties, first
Speaker 8: short amount of times out there and find out who
Speaker 8: you are and make your name, you know, to find
Speaker 8: out who you are and do your thing. So yeah, man,
Speaker 8: music is in Atlanta. It's it's very important here. Yeah,
Speaker 8: and a lot of a lot of people in the
Speaker 8: world listen to Atlanta musicians. They may not even know it,
Speaker 8: but right, and Atlanta's cool because it sucks. It sucks
Speaker 8: everyone in from Ah. You know, you could say, there's
Speaker 8: a there's a cup around the map of Atlanta, and
Speaker 8: if you didn't move to Nashville, you came to Atlanta.
Speaker 8: You know. If you're in the Midwest, you go to
Speaker 8: Chicago or Nashville, but everyone in the South coalesces into Atlanta.
Speaker 8: I was the same way. I was a suburban kid.
Speaker 8: I didn't grow up in Atlanta. I moved down to
Speaker 8: Atlanta to be cool and be seen C and BC
Speaker 8: and et cetera.
Speaker 5: Know.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so yeah, Atlanta, Atlanta. Love Atlanta. Yeah, you're up
Speaker 8: in New Hampshire.
Speaker 11: We're in New Hampshire.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Manchester, New Hampshire where it's a little little chillier
Speaker 10: was by bear.
Speaker 8: In the White Mountains of New Hampshire when I was thirteen.
Speaker 11: Okay, please please sell it. Please yeah, please tell that
Speaker 11: story because I'm very, very interested to hear this. Yikes.
Speaker 8: My dad, My dad was like, I got a man,
Speaker 8: this boy up and was like he live in New
Speaker 8: Jersey my whole life. Yeah, He's like, man, this boy up,
Speaker 8: take him out of the mountains. So we go hiking.
Speaker 8: It's like six days and I'm like the most tenderfooted
Speaker 8: person you ever met. I'm so soft and so you know,
Speaker 8: I'm like a mess the whole time. We have a
Speaker 8: water filter, we've got this dry free food. We're like
Speaker 8: legit camping, right, yeah, and so on. Like the sixth
Speaker 8: day we land at this three walled cabin and I'll
Speaker 8: just never forget it was the White Mountains of New Hampshire.
Speaker 8: God knows where I guess that means something to you,
Speaker 8: yeah and or yeah. So anyway, this bear named Brutus.
Speaker 8: He was a black bear, and there was a little
Speaker 8: polaroid of him above this clipboard. And I'm imagine the
Speaker 8: clipboard was there just to kind of you could leave
Speaker 8: a note for someone that you saw. Oh hey, I remember,
Speaker 8: I remember specific like Jim, I beat you summer in
Speaker 8: ninety five. Oh yeah, you know whatever. And then I
Speaker 8: saw things there's no Brutus. Good.
Speaker 11: Oh.
Speaker 8: I was like, what does that mean? I look up,
Speaker 8: there's a picture of a black bear in this a
Speaker 8: little note saying this is Brutus. He's the predominant black
Speaker 8: bear in this area. He's never hurt anyone, don't see him. YadA, YadA, yadda.
Speaker 8: Later that day, he chased three campers up onto that
Speaker 8: three walled cabin I mentioned earlier. And then he came
Speaker 8: right into our campsite, ate our lemonade, chased me into
Speaker 8: a tent, almost collapsed the tent. My dad's trying to
Speaker 8: scare him off with these two little POTSI brought to
Speaker 8: boil water. And so I've never camped since, not once.
Speaker 11: Wow, that's intense.
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, it was really intense. And the way
Speaker 8: I look at it now is like the bears, like
Speaker 8: they live in the woods. That's there, Atlanta, Ya, they
Speaker 8: get that, Like I don't. I don't go there anymore.
Speaker 8: Like that's theirs. They they deserve it, they should have that,
Speaker 8: And I don't go there anymore. Exactly, I don't want
Speaker 8: to travel with a gun, right, I ain't gonna get.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 7: I like that.
Speaker 11: I can kind of relate.
Speaker 10: I mean, I've never had an intense experience like that,
Speaker 10: But the lack of interest in camping I can relate to.
Speaker 10: I grew up here, but I've never But people are
Speaker 10: surprised when I tell them this. I've never been camping
Speaker 10: in my life, and I'm never going to go. I
Speaker 10: don't want to go out. I don't want to be
Speaker 10: in the woods. I don't want to. I don't want
Speaker 10: to risk encountering something that could eat me.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 11: I'm terrified of deer ticks. Deer you know, deer ticks
Speaker 11: are very common.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, you don't want that. Lime disease, man, No way, exactly.
Speaker 11: Oh, I've not. I know so many.
Speaker 10: I've met so many people who have lime disease because
Speaker 10: they went out in the woods and came into contact
Speaker 10: with a deer.
Speaker 8: Tick.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so I'm with you on that.
Speaker 8: Yeah. No, I like hot showers and uh, you know,
Speaker 8: like take out food.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, concrete and steel, concrete and steel. That's right,
Speaker 10: that's the way to go.
Speaker 8: But I will say this, I do recall the White
Speaker 8: Mountain of New Hampshire and if I referred to it
Speaker 8: being gorgeous.
Speaker 11: Oh very much.
Speaker 8: So yeah, it was absolutely beautiful. But there's bears, so yeah, brutish.
Speaker 8: I wonder British is still alive. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 8: this is like like thirty years ago. Man, I don't
Speaker 8: know how long it was thirty years ago. It was
Speaker 8: nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 10: Man, oh, just be just be careful with the We're
Speaker 10: on FM terrestrial radio, so just be careful with what
Speaker 10: you say.
Speaker 11: Oh that's okay. We're on an eight second delay. So
Speaker 11: I caught it, no, no problem, but yeah, gotcha. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 11: but uh yeah, so I don't yeah, I don't go
Speaker 11: into the woods.
Speaker 10: But did you always did you always live in Atlanta
Speaker 10: or did you live anywhere else in the US at
Speaker 10: any point?
Speaker 8: Was born in Texas, Oh, in Texas. My mother and
Speaker 8: father split when I was one so my dad moved
Speaker 8: in Jersey, my mom moved to Atlanta where she had
Speaker 8: like a family.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So I was either in Atlanta or New Jersey my
Speaker 8: whole life, okay, but mainly Atlanta. I did all my
Speaker 8: schooling down here, So I consider myself with Georgia.
Speaker 11: Boy, gotcha? Gotcha?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 10: So what is you know, you've got multiple projects going.
Speaker 10: Is there one that's kind of the biggest priority for
Speaker 10: you right now? Is it the Kyle Gordon project? Or
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, because you've got Mama Bear and
Speaker 10: you've got Anthems, and I mean it sounds like you're
Speaker 10: doing a lot.
Speaker 11: Is there a hierarchy?
Speaker 8: Toth is the most important to me?
Speaker 11: Okay?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Anthems is the most important because it's a functioning band. Yeah,
Speaker 8: you know, there's four of us, were all writing for it,
Speaker 8: like we all creator in parts for it. Whereas like
Speaker 8: Mama Bear is Mama Bear. I created Mama Bear in
Speaker 8: twenty thirteen after yet another one of my bands, I
Speaker 8: believe in broke up right. Oh, and that back then
Speaker 8: there wasn't Internet radio, if you you know, if you
Speaker 8: didn't other than my Space in early Facebook, you know,
Speaker 8: so these bands I'd be in this band for two years,
Speaker 8: we'd make an album that we all really believed in.
Speaker 8: It was frankly really good because I have I like
Speaker 8: to think of myself as artistically integ like, and there's
Speaker 8: integrity in it, Like I'm not just banging out stuff
Speaker 8: to be heard, because that's not the point, like I
Speaker 8: want to. I want to enjoy it myself. So like,
Speaker 8: I'd make an album with these guys and then the
Speaker 8: band would break up and it was like it never happened.
Speaker 8: And so after a while, after like the third band
Speaker 8: breaking up, and this is like seven eight years of
Speaker 8: my life, I was like, you know what, I'm just
Speaker 8: going to make albums by myself the way I want
Speaker 8: because I can play every instrument to some degree already.
Speaker 8: So I formed Mama Bear to just be an outlet
Speaker 8: for my songs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And.
Speaker 8: The reason I chose Mama Bear was because it's it's
Speaker 8: a it's a it's a it's a word or a
Speaker 8: phrase in the lexicon of every Western speaking person. Everyone's
Speaker 8: heard the term mama bear. It was easy to remember.
Speaker 8: And then two, it was also kind of cheeky and
Speaker 8: sarcastic because I'm not making soft music, right, so I
Speaker 8: but I also think it was kind of it kind
Speaker 8: of worked against me too, because like even my father
Speaker 8: would be like, there's a terrible names, but like you
Speaker 8: just don't get it. But so anthems means the most
Speaker 8: to me because it's an the functioning living organism where
Speaker 8: Mama Bear. I haven't really recorded anything under the name
Speaker 8: Mama Bear since I got back from England in twenty
Speaker 8: three and so the Kyle Gordon project is kind of
Speaker 8: I'm just like, I've been sitting on these songs for
Speaker 8: a little while because I really liked them and I
Speaker 8: wanted to do it right. I wanted to promote them correctly,
Speaker 8: and I hooked up with some people in Wales, Ian
Speaker 8: and Ange of we believe they're a husband wife's team
Speaker 8: and they are just the salt of the earth's best people.
Speaker 8: Ian's Ian's one of my best friends in the whole world,
Speaker 8: and they're they're the one the reason you and I
Speaker 8: are talking is because of them.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So they They've been a huge Mama Bear fan. They've
Speaker 8: toured me around the UK twice wow. And then they
Speaker 8: hooked me up with Big pr which hook me up
Speaker 8: with you. So I'm just I'm just thankful, man Like
Speaker 8: I just I don't even remember your question. I think
Speaker 8: I've just been wandering off.
Speaker 11: No, no, that's my words. No, that's no.
Speaker 10: I was curious if there was a sort of a
Speaker 10: priority or a hierarchy in terms of what is most
Speaker 10: most important right now.
Speaker 8: But I just following the success if I see, you know,
Speaker 8: all the projects have something cool about them. Yeah, and
Speaker 8: I believe in all three of them. And the Kyle
Speaker 8: Gordon project is is the newest in terms of just
Speaker 8: like in my world, the sexy thing because it's new
Speaker 8: and outside of my wheelhouse. But one thing, I want
Speaker 8: to make a piano while I'm next. Oh really, I
Speaker 8: think that'd be really fun. Yeah, make like a piano
Speaker 8: like Sunday afternoon music. And then I met this guy
Speaker 8: that plays really awesome jazz in Atlanta and were kind
Speaker 8: of mess around, like, Okay, I got to make a
Speaker 8: good job. It's just while I'm alive, I want to
Speaker 8: make as much music as I can before I'm gone.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a good policy, definitely.
Speaker 8: Yeah. I get I get morbid like that. I'm like, no,
Speaker 8: I got this idea in my head. I got to
Speaker 8: get out. What if I die? You know, I just
Speaker 8: may not be the best idea in the world. But
Speaker 8: I believe, I believe in it's that. That's beautiful. I'll
Speaker 8: be done in that.
Speaker 11: Okay, Oh, that's okay, no worries.
Speaker 10: I'm curious what was your first instrument, because you mentioned,
Speaker 10: because obviously you play multiple instruments.
Speaker 11: What did you start with?
Speaker 8: I started with the trumpet in really sixth grade class,
Speaker 8: and I wasn't I wasn't inspired or very good. It's
Speaker 8: just it was what I started with. Yeah, I grew
Speaker 8: up listening to music with my mother, and I remember,
Speaker 8: like it's kinda step outside. I remember like listening to
Speaker 8: music with her, and you know, now we call it
Speaker 8: the hook or whatever that part of the song is
Speaker 8: they grab you. I remember as a little kid, I
Speaker 8: I couldn't wrap my head around music, and whenever the
Speaker 8: songs felt really good, I would I'd feel it really deep,
Speaker 8: and I asked my mom, like, what is that? Why
Speaker 8: does that feel so good? Yeah, and I thought that
Speaker 8: every song utilized the same thing. Oh, it's just that
Speaker 8: feel good art. So I think music just kind of
Speaker 8: struck me like it was intriguing. I couldn't wrap my
Speaker 8: head around it, and in particular, twelve spilverhammer when I
Speaker 8: would listen to that song as a kid, I was like,
Speaker 8: this sounds like a cartoon. It sounds like, you know,
Speaker 8: like Saturday morning cartoon music, right, And so you know,
Speaker 8: just this idea that something you can't hold, taste, feel
Speaker 8: or see it has such an impact on you, like
Speaker 8: never really left me. Yeah, And eventually, I guess I
Speaker 8: started playing trumpet just as an extracurricular thing from school.
Speaker 8: It wasn't like, oh, I'm going to be the neck
Speaker 8: where the big trumpet guy is at I'm showing my
Speaker 8: ignorance right now. It wasn't like that. It's more like
Speaker 8: something to do. But my real first instrument was a guitar,
Speaker 8: like every other jerk, just figuring it out. And I
Speaker 8: was terrible for a long time, and to this day
Speaker 8: I'm just I'm kind of okay at it. Okay, it's
Speaker 8: insane how I've been playing guitar for a million years now,
Speaker 8: and I'm I consider myself a very middle guitar player.
Speaker 8: I don't make it scream. That ain't my job. My
Speaker 8: job is to I was always really intrigued with the
Speaker 8: songwriter of the band. You know, it wasn't the it
Speaker 8: wasn't the front man or it wasn't the good looking
Speaker 8: girl that could sell it, which God bless her. We
Speaker 8: need her, we need him. But I was always intrigued,
Speaker 8: like I love Oasis, but I'm the no guy, Okay,
Speaker 8: who wrote the song that makes you that changed your world?
Speaker 8: Forget who sung it, but who wrote it? Right, I'm
Speaker 8: a big I'm a big fan of the writer at
Speaker 8: the bands.
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, that makes sense, that makes sense.
Speaker 10: And then so you also play it turns me on
Speaker 10: you mentioned too you played drums, and I assume.
Speaker 11: You play bass. Yeah, yeah, I play all I play
Speaker 11: all that and keyboard, I assume, right, yes I do.
Speaker 8: I bought it. I didn't buy I got a piano
Speaker 8: off Eggs list about three years ago. It's sending in
Speaker 8: my sun room. I sit around and I'm yeah, and
Speaker 8: I knew how to play, you know, first position, major
Speaker 8: and minor chords up and down the keyboards because it's
Speaker 8: just twelve notes, right, But now I'm learning second third position.
Speaker 8: I'm trying to get some separation between my right and
Speaker 8: my left hands. Yeah, while they had their hand and
Speaker 8: so I'm trying to learn all that, and it's a
Speaker 8: lot of fun. I love to just sit there and
Speaker 8: tinker on the piano. It is. It is very liberating.
Speaker 10: I've heard so many, uh so many music professors and
Speaker 10: instructors say that whether you're just starting out or whether
Speaker 10: you already play other instruments, you know, being at least
Speaker 10: somewhat proficient on the keyboard will help you with literally
Speaker 10: everything else that you play.
Speaker 8: Oh dude, Yeah, Well it's so linear, you know, Like
Speaker 8: with the guitar, it's slightly metaphorical. You've got half steps,
Speaker 8: a fret, whole steps, two frets. Okay, my mind's already
Speaker 8: kind of bobbled by that, and then the B string
Speaker 8: is step off, and then you got that wonky little string.
Speaker 8: Now the keyboard it's just abcdes all the way down
Speaker 8: the line, repeat, repeat, repeat. And so yeah, it's very linear.
Speaker 8: And when I play the piano, i play it much
Speaker 8: differently than I played the guitar. Yeah, and it's just
Speaker 8: because I've developed the style of the guitar and so
Speaker 8: now I'm trying to figure out what's my style on
Speaker 8: the piano. Yes, And it's intriguing and it's fun, and
Speaker 8: I wish I had learned twenty years ago. I had
Speaker 8: taken it way more seriously because I'm way more artistic
Speaker 8: on the piano than I won a guitar. Okay, So
Speaker 8: the good news is I hopefully I still got some
Speaker 8: life left in me and we'll get something out of
Speaker 8: it sooner or later. But I said I want to
Speaker 8: make a piano album. I'm just I got to learn
Speaker 8: how to play the piano.
Speaker 11: Right, right, of course, of course.
Speaker 8: I guess I got to learn to walk before I've run.
Speaker 11: Now, what is the So you mentioned an album.
Speaker 10: So you're going to do a full album of Kyle Gordon,
Speaker 10: of that project specifically.
Speaker 8: Okay, it's already made. It's done.
Speaker 11: Oh, it's done, I can oh, excellent done.
Speaker 8: Do you have any kind of a going to put
Speaker 8: out each song individually? I don't know if you're aware
Speaker 8: of this, but people don't buy music anymore. So I'm
Speaker 8: just going to put out singles and then eventually I'll
Speaker 8: just put them all out under the name, under a name,
Speaker 8: and the goal is to get back in the studio.
Speaker 8: I've already got a my Buddy, and I've already got
Speaker 8: a follow up song, a couple of follow up songs
Speaker 8: to the album. So it's mainly just like governing what
Speaker 8: project gets what very few finances I have at the time. Sure,
Speaker 8: and as of right now, Anthems is a functioning band.
Speaker 8: We just played a show last week that went really
Speaker 8: well and and uh we're recording that, so kind of
Speaker 8: like my my, what I have financially right now is
Speaker 8: going into Anthems.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, understood, understood, But uh, but I do look
Speaker 10: forward to hearing more of the well, I'll check out
Speaker 10: the other stuff too, but I'll look forward to hearing
Speaker 10: more of of the Kyle Gordon project.
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, it's it's I mean, I really believe in it, dude.
Speaker 8: I've been sitting on it for a few years because
Speaker 8: I've wanted to.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 8: I wanted to be in a mental place where I
Speaker 8: could just focus on it. And I guess that doesn't
Speaker 8: make much sense, But what I mean is, uh, like
Speaker 8: I just knew I had something kind of cool and different,
Speaker 8: and I'm not And to answer your question earlier, I'm
Speaker 8: not playing it live because I would need like eight people,
Speaker 8: you know, to reproduce that sound on stage. So I
Speaker 8: have done a few solo Kyle Gordon shows where I
Speaker 8: just show up with an electric guitar and I was
Speaker 8: saying and all that, Yeah, and it's cool it's cool.
Speaker 8: But I'm not like a I'm not like a super
Speaker 8: stellar solo guy. You know, I have a lot of
Speaker 8: respect for Ed Sheeran, for example. I don't like his music,
Speaker 8: but damn if I don't respect darn. If I don't
Speaker 8: respect him, I could say the D word. That was okay,
Speaker 8: so because yeah, he can sell it. I don't like
Speaker 8: what he's saying, but but man, I got respect because
Speaker 8: I've tried to do it and it ain't easy. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: it's not my bread and butter. I'm much better with
Speaker 8: an ensemble. I can lean into stronger musicians than myself.
Speaker 8: In fact, I have a maximum and so if I'm
Speaker 8: on stage, I have to be the least talented person.
Speaker 8: And if I'm the least talented person on stage, We're
Speaker 8: gonna have a great show.
Speaker 11: There you go.
Speaker 7: I like that.
Speaker 11: I like that a lot.
Speaker 10: And by the way, I agree with you on Ed
Speaker 10: Share and I feel the same way about him. You know,
Speaker 10: I respect him. I respect the hell out of him.
Speaker 10: You can say hell too, but but I don't.
Speaker 11: But I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't like what he says, but yeaham, if he's
Speaker 8: not really good at doing it, I don't buy and
Speaker 8: though the whole Oh he's not cool. I mean, screw
Speaker 8: that stuff like that. I don't I dipped out on
Speaker 8: that whole like cool scene a long time ago, because
Speaker 8: cool just means insecure, you know, it just means you're
Speaker 8: so insecure, you're gonna let everyone know how insecure you. So.
Speaker 8: Let Ed Sharon be Ed, whatever the hell's name is.
Speaker 8: Let him be him. He's not in your way, he's
Speaker 8: not hurting you. He's just crushing his short life. You
Speaker 8: have a problem with that because you a problem with yourself.
Speaker 11: Yeah whatever, yep, well said, I agree.
Speaker 8: I don't care about the cool stuff like that. To me,
Speaker 8: it's I've got two kids right now, and I'm and
Speaker 8: they're very young. They don't understand anything I say yet,
Speaker 8: but I'm teaching them that like cool is actually just
Speaker 8: understanding quiet, wisdom and acceptance. That's what makes you cool.
Speaker 8: Not saying a bad word because you think bad words
Speaker 8: are cool. Big kids say bad word. You know what
Speaker 8: I'm saying, Like, I know, I'm kind of breaking it down,
Speaker 8: But it's the same with music and the whole identity
Speaker 8: people put into music. I feel kind of diminishes the
Speaker 8: power of the music, Like forget your suit. You know.
Speaker 8: Oh you're a metal guy, so you Jessica metal guy? Okay, cool,
Speaker 8: I get it. What you only listen to metal or
Speaker 8: this or that? And right?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: And another reason I really don't like pop is because
Speaker 8: it's so unreal. No one's cool. Everyone, everyone smells bad,
Speaker 8: everyone wakes up feeling weird, Like, no one is cool, right.
Speaker 8: This image we're pushed on with pop music and the
Speaker 8: sleek side of music is so false and so fake.
Speaker 11: Sure, so yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm gonna get off my soapbox. I'm sorry.
Speaker 11: No, No, it's good though, No, No, it's good though.
Speaker 8: I like.
Speaker 11: I like what you're saying.
Speaker 10: Absolutely in terms of in terms of the Kyle Gordon project,
Speaker 10: I mean, are you does is there an image that
Speaker 10: will that will take shape with this or.
Speaker 8: Or or are you?
Speaker 10: Are you just completely not worried about that part and
Speaker 10: it's more just about just putting out the songs, putting
Speaker 10: out the music.
Speaker 8: Okay. When I heard your question, when I heard was I,
Speaker 8: I pictured like, am I gonna go full ziggy star?
Speaker 8: Does this or something like? I don't have any plans? Yeah,
Speaker 8: Like at this point, I'm very comfortable with who I am. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm a very flawed person, and I bring those flaws
Speaker 8: onto the stage. Yeah, and I think that's what makes
Speaker 8: me relatable.
Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 8: And so no, I don't really have any plans with
Speaker 8: the Kyle Gordon project because I'm not even sure it's
Speaker 8: ever anything that heard, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 8: at this point, like I stopped making music videos about
Speaker 8: five years ago, just for one, yeah, I for one,
Speaker 8: I hate making them. Two it's a lot of work,
Speaker 8: a lot of time. And then three, no one really cares.
Speaker 8: And that's fine, Like, you know, I get it. You know,
Speaker 8: they upload like seven million things a day on YouTube.
Speaker 8: We're just going to get lost in that. And if
Speaker 8: you're not willing to give a billionaire a few extra bucks,
Speaker 8: you're just going to get buried in the oar. And
Speaker 8: then so once I realized that there's a gatekeeper society
Speaker 8: with music, it's all been monetized to the point where
Speaker 8: you can't even do anything anymore. No, I don't have
Speaker 8: any projects and any idea on how I'm gonna sell
Speaker 8: this thing other than the fact that I'm just going
Speaker 8: to slap my face on it and be honest. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I've got a really good friend named Ben Underwood that
Speaker 8: lives in Asheville, North Carolina, and he's the most delicious
Speaker 8: creative collages. Like the stuff he comes up with is
Speaker 8: so cool, and he's been so nice to create two
Speaker 8: covers for me. Yeah, I just sent him a batch
Speaker 8: of like selfies I took oh my hair looks good
Speaker 8: today clip, So I send him that and he just
Speaker 8: laps my face onto one of his collages and that's
Speaker 8: what she chose me as one of his collages. And yeah,
Speaker 8: so in terms of the presentation, I'm gonna go with
Speaker 8: that kind of look. Yeah, man, no, no star on
Speaker 8: the eye. I'm not gonna stuff a stock in my pants.
Speaker 8: I'm just gonna go out and and I don't even
Speaker 8: have any plans to play it live. It's w want
Speaker 8: to and there's a demand, then I'll figure that out,
Speaker 8: you know. Like, uh, the like she chose me as
Speaker 8: actually getting more radio play than I've gotten in years.
Speaker 8: But my day to day hasn't changed in the least.
Speaker 8: I mean, like, yah, it's it's it's still just a
Speaker 8: wonderful It's Saturday, right, It's a wonderful Saturday, you know,
Speaker 8: And so if something comes of it, then yeah, I'll
Speaker 8: put a little more effort into it. But yeah, in
Speaker 8: terms of the way I look at it is I
Speaker 8: just I really want to make a follow up to it,
Speaker 8: to be honest with you. Yeah, So right now I'm
Speaker 8: just kind of like writing songs with anthems, coming up
Speaker 8: with ideas of my own and just kind of dreaming.
Speaker 8: You know, this is like the this is the part
Speaker 8: where things are slow and you're just kind of figuring
Speaker 8: out what's next. Sure, and then get in the studio,
Speaker 8: and then that's the real magic is just watching a
Speaker 8: song evolve in the studio. Is is an intoxicating feeling.
Speaker 8: I've never gotten tired of.
Speaker 10: It's cool that you like that, though, because not everyone does,
Speaker 10: you know. I mean a lot of musicians love being
Speaker 10: in the studio, but a lot of musicians too, as
Speaker 10: as you know, are like, oh, I just want to
Speaker 10: be on stage and they and they actually dread being
Speaker 10: in the studio, you know. So it's cool that you're
Speaker 10: able to embrace that, because not everyone can embrace.
Speaker 8: That kind of like well, that's that's that's your Sorry.
Speaker 11: I was just gonna say, it's kind of like camping,
Speaker 11: you know, not everyone can embrace it.
Speaker 10: And right you and I do not embrace that, and
Speaker 10: people probably think we're weird for not embracing that.
Speaker 8: But I've worked with a I worked with a really
Speaker 8: great guy down here Land. I mentioned him earlier. His
Speaker 8: name is Chris Sampson. Yeah, and he's worked with everyone
Speaker 8: from the be fifty two's to me.
Speaker 11: Oh and nice.
Speaker 8: He's very well known, he's extremely talented, and he's like,
Speaker 8: he's not gonna lie to you. And he and I
Speaker 8: have known each other for a long time, so we're
Speaker 8: very close friends as well. So yeah, when we're recording,
Speaker 8: he'll be like, that was terrible. You can do better,
Speaker 8: and just shoot it straight at me.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and.
Speaker 8: I really have learned to embrace like the vagueness of
Speaker 8: the studio.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 8: The songs I can't stand that I wrote the most
Speaker 8: are the ones that I had all planned out and
Speaker 8: then I executed them exactly how I planned and then
Speaker 8: I got exactly what I wanted and I hate it.
Speaker 11: Oh wow.
Speaker 8: So yeah, with the ording project again, we just came
Speaker 8: up with a few rules. In the beginning. It was like,
Speaker 8: for one, we're just gonna try it. We're not gonna
Speaker 8: do anything we've done in the past. Yes, and that's
Speaker 8: very liberating. That means I'm no longer tied to the
Speaker 8: things that I didn't enjoy the past, which opens up
Speaker 8: the door to all kinds of cool opportunities and new ideas. Sure,
Speaker 8: but they never even like, never even fathomed. So with
Speaker 8: his push that oh you can do better, you can
Speaker 8: do better or and then then the happiest one went
Speaker 8: is like oh yeah, and he starts getting real excited.
Speaker 8: I'm like, okay, now I'm cooking, you know, yeah, and
Speaker 8: we're going to focus on this thing now. So No,
Speaker 8: I love being in the studio. I love being on stage.
Speaker 8: The one the only thing I don't like about being
Speaker 8: a musician is hanging around at venue for like five
Speaker 8: hours way into play. I hate that stuff. I hate it.
Speaker 8: I hate it. I hate it. I get so bored
Speaker 8: and it's like the whole hurry up and wait thing.
Speaker 8: That's that's one of my least favorite. But but when
Speaker 8: you're on tour, it's a little different because at least
Speaker 8: I'm in a place I've never run out and often
Speaker 8: or revisiting. I can walk around the neighborhood. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 8: like that's great.
Speaker 11: I love that, But no, I can relate though, so
Speaker 11: I I don't play anymore, but I used to be.
Speaker 10: You know, I was in a bunch of bands and
Speaker 10: whatnot before I decided to focus more on the radio
Speaker 10: and podcasting part of what I do. But yeah, I
Speaker 10: always I used to really struggle with that when you're
Speaker 10: when you're waiting for a really long time to play,
Speaker 10: it's like it's.
Speaker 8: My least favorite thing, you know, absolutely, especially in my
Speaker 8: own hometown, you know, like, yeah, it's yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 8: that's that's that's that's to me, the least favorite part.
Speaker 8: But everything else is fun. I love the community, I
Speaker 8: love meeting people. I love the energy exchange between the
Speaker 8: crowd and the bands. And yeah, dude, it shows me.
Speaker 8: I didn't. I didn't. I had no idea this is
Speaker 8: gonna be my life. But as soon as I got
Speaker 8: into it, it's you know, it's the only thing I
Speaker 8: really stayed on too, you.
Speaker 11: Know, yeah, young so well, uh wow, the time goes quickly.
Speaker 10: We got to begin to wrap up, but before we do,
Speaker 10: and by the way, at the end of our conversation,
Speaker 10: I'm gonna play, I'm gonna cheat and play she shows
Speaker 10: me again because I love that song.
Speaker 8: Day.
Speaker 11: Like I said, it's perfect. It's just perfect.
Speaker 10: But before we do that, let's make sure that I
Speaker 10: want our listeners to know where's the best where are
Speaker 10: the best places to go online to keep up with
Speaker 10: everything that you're doing, not just the Kyle Gordon project
Speaker 10: of course, Anthems and Mama Bear and everything.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the only, the only, like social media. I really
Speaker 8: play with his Instagram, Okay, I don't you can find
Speaker 8: all the projects I think across the board you were
Speaker 8: streaming on Apple YouTube or all the things Spotify, all
Speaker 8: the things. Anthems is spelled A N, T H M
Speaker 8: Z okay. And then Mama Bear. I don't know if
Speaker 8: it's an Atlanta thing, but all my bands are spelled
Speaker 8: on purpose. Mama Bear is one word, M A M,
Speaker 8: m ad e A R. Okay there because Mama had
Speaker 8: two m's in it. I don't care who I'm Southern.
Speaker 8: I like to put in extra continents and sounds.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So, and then Kyle Gordon is just my name. So
Speaker 8: you can find me streaming down the musical rivers on
Speaker 8: the internet wherever you want to find me. And then
Speaker 8: if you want to stay hi or something, hit me
Speaker 8: up on Instagram. And I hope everyone has a great day,
Speaker 8: and I really appreciate your time. Thank you so much.
Speaker 8: Sorry for saying the word earlier.
Speaker 11: That's okay. Like I said, we're on a delay. It's
Speaker 11: not even a big deal. I caught it. It's no
Speaker 11: big trust me. You are not the first. It's all good,
Speaker 11: my friend.
Speaker 8: I didn't invent the word. That's cheers. Man.
Speaker 11: There you go, there you go.
Speaker 8: I really really appreciate your time, man, Yes, so much.
Speaker 11: Thank you, Kyle.
Speaker 10: We appreciate you joining us. We will definitely do this
Speaker 10: in the future. And I can't wait to hear I
Speaker 10: can't wait to hear the next uh, the next Kyle
Speaker 10: Gordon song. Absolutely, but uh.
Speaker 11: We'll let you go.
Speaker 8: We're gonna hit me later today.
Speaker 11: Okay, all right, you got it, my friend. All right, Kyle,
Speaker 11: take care.
Speaker 8: I have a nice day. Everybody take care.
Speaker 11: Ye bye bye. All right.
Speaker 10: That was the great Kyle Gory And we're gonna play
Speaker 10: this again if you missed it, and if you didn't
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Speaker 10: it's so good.
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