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3:57 Speaker 6: Cr welcome everybody, here we go. It is that time again.

4:28 Speaker 6: Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios

4:34 Speaker 6: of wm NH ninety five point three FM, Inglorious, Manchester,

4:39 Speaker 6: New Hampshire. Of course, you can stream the show from anywhere.

4:42 Speaker 6: Go to Matt connorton dot com slash live for all

4:45 Speaker 6: your live streaming options, social media links, contact info show archives,

4:48 Speaker 6: et cetera, et cetera. Today is a Saturday, October eleven,

4:53 Speaker 6: twenty twenty five. Welcome everybody. I am flying solo this morning,

4:57 Speaker 6: although I do see Jenny in the chat room, but

4:58 Speaker 6: she had a very very busy week. So if you

5:02 Speaker 6: don't follow Jenny online, you definitely should. She's been up

5:04 Speaker 6: to some good stuff, but a very busy and exhausting week.

5:08 Speaker 6: So so she's at home, but she is in the

5:09 Speaker 6: chat room. But check out our website Jencoffee dot com

5:12 Speaker 6: for more information on everything that she does. We won't

5:15 Speaker 6: get into it all here, but and follow her on

5:17 Speaker 6: social media. And there's some some really really cool stuff

5:21 Speaker 6: coming too. Actually, there's something big coming. I don't think

5:24 Speaker 6: she said anything about it publicly yet though, but anyway,

5:27 Speaker 6: just keep keep your eye on Jenny. She's doing some

5:29 Speaker 6: really good stuff. I also see Loud Entertainment in there,

5:32 Speaker 6: and Texas Mic is in there. Good morning, guys. In

5:35 Speaker 6: the in the chat room, let's see so oh, by

5:38 Speaker 6: the way, the song that I opened with that was

5:39 Speaker 6: Beautiful Nightmare by Chasing the Devil. So the reason I

5:42 Speaker 6: played that is so this morning I was picking out

5:45 Speaker 6: a shirt to wear. I always like to wear a

5:46 Speaker 6: shirt of one of the artists who has been on

5:48 Speaker 6: the show, supports the show, et cetera. And I was like, oh,

5:51 Speaker 6: I haven't worn the Chasing the Devil shirt in a while.

5:53 Speaker 6: And then on my way in, I was thinking, you know,

5:55 Speaker 6: Beautiful Nightmare, which was the first their first single that

5:57 Speaker 6: they put out. Then they've put out several, but I

6:02 Speaker 6: love that song.

6:03 Speaker 7: You know.

6:03 Speaker 6: They we did the world radio premiere that track right

6:05 Speaker 6: here on Matt connorton Unleashed here at WM and H

6:08 Speaker 6: and I listen to that now and I still love

6:11 Speaker 6: it as much as the first time I heard it.

6:12 Speaker 6: It's so good. So I was like, oh, why don't

6:14 Speaker 6: I open with that today? That'd be a good way

6:16 Speaker 6: to open, good higher energy song. I'm a little tired,

6:18 Speaker 6: so I had a busy week myself, so good do

6:21 Speaker 6: good to have something high energy to open with. But

6:23 Speaker 6: such a great song. And I think they're working on

6:25 Speaker 6: more stuff too, so Chasing the Devil check them out.

6:28 Speaker 6: And Jenny and I do run into Jay Bellow from

6:31 Speaker 6: Chasing the Devil occasionally at Market Basket in Bedford. We

6:35 Speaker 6: just happened to run into him there, so so that's

6:37 Speaker 6: kind of funny. So I figured i'd open with that,

6:40 Speaker 6: but we do have we do have some other music

6:42 Speaker 6: coming up today on the show. Of course, in just

6:44 Speaker 6: a few minutes, I'm gonna be talking with Jack Body

6:46 Speaker 6: from the band Pacific A's we had we did the

6:50 Speaker 6: world radio premiere, or it might have been the American

6:52 Speaker 6: radio premiere. I might have already been played in the UK.

6:54 Speaker 6: But another great UK artist at our friends from big

6:58 Speaker 6: gspr over there send us and the new single short Life,

7:03 Speaker 6: which is great. So we're gonna play that in just

7:05 Speaker 6: a couple of minutes, and then we're gonna have Jack

7:07 Speaker 6: on with us via WhatsApp to talk to him, and

7:10 Speaker 6: at the end of that segment, we're gonna play one

7:12 Speaker 6: of his earlier singles too that I really really like,

7:14 Speaker 6: called wander Lust, which is so good. So we're gonna

7:17 Speaker 6: be talking with Jack from Pacific Aays in just a

7:19 Speaker 6: couple of minutes at nine to fifteen am in the

7:21 Speaker 6: Eastern time zone depending on where you're listening from. And

7:24 Speaker 6: let's see then in the second hour, in the second hour,

7:29 Speaker 6: we have Kyle Gordon who has a great song called

7:34 Speaker 6: She Chose Me and we did the uh we did

7:36 Speaker 6: the world radio premiere for that here on Matt Connorton

7:39 Speaker 6: Unleashed and I love that song so much, so we're

7:42 Speaker 6: gonna play that again in the second hour, and then

7:44 Speaker 6: we're gonna talk to Kyle. Looking forward to that. And

7:46 Speaker 6: then in the third hour, the band Benthic Realm is

7:48 Speaker 6: gonna be joining us live in studio if you're not

7:51 Speaker 6: familiar with them, really really good and I think they're

7:55 Speaker 6: gonna play live, So I've got some extra microphones ready,

7:59 Speaker 6: so really looking forward to that. So we've got another

8:01 Speaker 6: busy show, an exciting show for you. Uh, let's see.

8:04 Speaker 6: So in just a couple of minutes, I'm gonna play

8:06 Speaker 6: that track short Life by Pacific Gays, and then we'll

8:09 Speaker 6: get Jack on the phone. Also, if you're a long

8:14 Speaker 6: time listener of the show, you probably know this, or

8:17 Speaker 6: if you know me, you know this about me. My

8:19 Speaker 6: favorite band is Kiss. And I'm getting a little nervous

8:22 Speaker 6: because just in the past week, so Ace Frehley, who

8:26 Speaker 6: has not been in the band for a long time,

8:27 Speaker 6: apparently has had a stroke. So that's, uh, that's disconcerting.

8:33 Speaker 6: And uh and Gene Simmons a couple of days ago,

8:35 Speaker 6: apparently he's fine. But Gene Simmons actually had an accident.

8:39 Speaker 6: I guess he lost consciousness while driving. So just uh,

8:45 Speaker 6: a couple of couple of very uh, very precarious things there.

8:50 Speaker 6: But let's see we have a call. Wow, let's see

8:53 Speaker 6: who's online. Hi, welcome to Matt Conerton on non leash

8:55 Speaker 6: do this, Oh.

8:57 Speaker 8: On map, this is Jane Simmons of Kiss.

9:01 Speaker 6: Gene Simmons of Kiss. Oh my goodness, I'm so relieved

9:04 Speaker 6: to hear from you. I've been worried about you. You

9:06 Speaker 6: had that terrible accident. You apparently lost consciousness and crashed

9:09 Speaker 6: into something. Uh are you okay?

9:13 Speaker 8: I don't know, Matt, you tell me, am I okay.

9:16 Speaker 6: Well you sound great. I mean you sound very normal,

9:18 Speaker 6: Gene Simmons of Kiss. You sound like you always do well,

9:23 Speaker 6: although then again I don't know much how you sound

9:25 Speaker 6: these days. You used to call the show all the

9:26 Speaker 6: time when we were on afternoons, and now I hardly

9:29 Speaker 6: ever hear from you.

9:31 Speaker 8: Well not, you know, I do sleep in on Saturday mornings.

9:34 Speaker 8: I'm a musician.

9:36 Speaker 6: I didn't think you ever slept, Gene Simmons of Kiss.

9:40 Speaker 8: Yes, it's a it's a good substitute. That's sleep for

9:43 Speaker 8: the bourbon that I don't drink anymore.

9:45 Speaker 6: That's right. Well you never you never were a drinker,

9:48 Speaker 6: which I commend you for that.

9:49 Speaker 8: Oh you say so, you say, well no, I.

9:51 Speaker 6: Mean that's more acist thing. But uh yeah, So how

9:54 Speaker 6: are you doing? Are you doing? You're doing okay?

9:56 Speaker 8: Uh.

9:57 Speaker 6: I was very concerned. I thought maybe a heart issue

9:59 Speaker 6: or something. I know you have apheb. I didn't know

10:01 Speaker 6: if that may be cause you to lose consciousness while driving.

10:05 Speaker 8: It's funny, I do have a feb mat. But the

10:07 Speaker 8: thing is is, whenever I turn on one of my

10:10 Speaker 8: Kiss albums, yes, my heart just beats right to the rhythm.

10:15 Speaker 6: No kidding, even the elder.

10:19 Speaker 8: That's right.

10:20 Speaker 6: Well that's amazing. Well that's exciting. Gene Simmons of Kiss.

10:25 Speaker 1: Very good.

10:25 Speaker 8: And I'm calling you this morning because I decided to

10:28 Speaker 8: get up early, whip up some pancakes and listening to

10:32 Speaker 8: my favorite radio show host ever.

10:35 Speaker 6: To think of, Gene Simmons of Kiss, listening to my

10:37 Speaker 6: show and making pancakes gives me a boundless joy. I

10:41 Speaker 6: must tell you.

10:43 Speaker 8: Yes, and one more thing, Matt, before I go and

10:45 Speaker 8: let you continue with your fabulous radio show.

10:48 Speaker 6: Thank you.

10:48 Speaker 8: Yes, Uh screw Ice, really forget him.

10:51 Speaker 4: Wow.

10:51 Speaker 6: Wow, I know you don't always get along, but all right, well,

10:55 Speaker 6: we hope that Ace recovers. I hope that Ace recovers

10:59 Speaker 6: y so.

11:00 Speaker 8: I do too, math, But if he doesn't, you know,

11:02 Speaker 8: that's just the way everything was meant to be.

11:07 Speaker 6: That's cold. Gene Simmons of Kiss. That's cold.

11:12 Speaker 8: And when the day finally happens, when people go to

11:15 Speaker 8: kiss dot com and order anything, uh huh, still get

11:20 Speaker 8: one third off the price? Wow, really, that's correct. We

11:25 Speaker 8: have to wait till he bites the big one.

11:27 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, all right, Well I do like to save money,

11:30 Speaker 6: but I but I do still hope the Ace.

11:32 Speaker 8: Recovers right new too.

11:38 Speaker 6: Hmmm, all right, Gene Simmons of Kiss.

11:41 Speaker 8: I have a good show man, all right, keep rocking

11:44 Speaker 8: and keep rolling.

11:45 Speaker 6: Thank you, right, and Gina, I would just remind you, oh,

11:49 Speaker 6: never mind, Gene Simmons of Kiss. That's amazing. We haven't

11:54 Speaker 6: heard from Gena in a long time. Well, very good,

11:56 Speaker 6: very good. Well, I do hope. Uh it sounds like

11:59 Speaker 6: he's doing great. And I hope Fraley recovers. Ace actually

12:01 Speaker 6: had to cancel the rest of his tour. He was

12:04 Speaker 6: on a tour that I think was supposed to go

12:06 Speaker 6: for the rest of the year, but he had to

12:07 Speaker 6: cancel the rest of his dates for twenty twenty five.

12:09 Speaker 6: So very very very concerned for mister Frailey. Well, here's

12:14 Speaker 6: what we're gonna do. We're gonna go ahead and hit

12:15 Speaker 6: this track. This is called short Life. This is Pacific

12:18 Speaker 6: A's and then when we come back, we're gonna have

12:20 Speaker 6: Jack from Pacific A's on the line with us. Really

12:23 Speaker 6: looking forward to talking with him. I love his sound check.

12:26 Speaker 6: This out Pacific A's and this is called short Life.

13:13 Speaker 5: Think and Fallen, move the sun. So my god, you

13:18 Speaker 5: see the sable man I look sor and super take

13:28 Speaker 5: it Innglish without regret.

13:42 Speaker 9: So loveter not see me.

13:51 Speaker 4: You've got along.

14:01 Speaker 2: You're sure.

14:31 Speaker 4: Something been letting in.

14:33 Speaker 5: The ships, just canding you comfort lists. She leads across

14:42 Speaker 5: the boat to come fad.

14:46 Speaker 10: That does nothing, no.

14:48 Speaker 4: No, the stress some lads long track comments. It's a

15:55 Speaker 4: long track.

16:32 Speaker 6: I love that that is specific as the track is

16:34 Speaker 6: called a short life. And I think we have Jack

16:36 Speaker 6: on the line via WhatsApp.

16:38 Speaker 3: Jack, are you there?

16:40 Speaker 11: You do you have Jack on the line? How's it

16:41 Speaker 11: go O?

16:42 Speaker 6: Wonderful? Wonderful? Hey, I love that song. Man, it's so

16:45 Speaker 6: it's kind of dreamy is my first word to describe it.

16:50 Speaker 6: But it's just such a great tune and it just

16:53 Speaker 6: I just love it. You kind of get kind of

16:55 Speaker 6: get lost in it when I listened to it, if

16:56 Speaker 6: you know what I mean.

16:58 Speaker 11: Yeah, because when our guitar hast brought the chords into

17:02 Speaker 11: the room, it just made it transported me to those holidays,

17:06 Speaker 11: you know, with your partner on the beach and you're

17:08 Speaker 11: in that little bubble of life and nothing can really

17:12 Speaker 11: pop that bubble. And that's the vibe that I wanted

17:14 Speaker 11: to give out. Yeah, as you partner against the world

17:17 Speaker 11: love and life.

17:18 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, I'd say you definitely accomplish. That's that's

17:22 Speaker 6: really good. So tell me Jack about Pacific is because

17:25 Speaker 6: I got the impression from reading a little bit about

17:27 Speaker 6: the band that did this start as a solo project

17:30 Speaker 6: and then kind of develop into a band? Is that

17:33 Speaker 6: what happened? Or can you kind of run through the

17:36 Speaker 6: history of the project.

17:38 Speaker 11: Yeah, sure, so super fast history. I've been playing piano

17:42 Speaker 11: since I was ten, so you know over twenty years now. Yeah,

17:46 Speaker 11: classically trained and all the piano stuff done me grades

17:49 Speaker 11: and then in my twenties, I started really getting into

17:51 Speaker 11: playing guitar, and like, I just had an affinity to

17:55 Speaker 11: safe rock and safe music. So around five or six

17:59 Speaker 11: year years ago with a side that you know, now's

18:01 Speaker 11: the time to actually get those ideas out your head

18:03 Speaker 11: and out of the voice memos and onto a page

18:06 Speaker 11: and into the studio. So that's what I've done. I

18:08 Speaker 11: reached out to a couple of people in America because

18:11 Speaker 11: that was always the goal for me, Like it always

18:13 Speaker 11: felt like American, the Californian beats music in a way,

18:18 Speaker 11: So I had a few producers out in LA who

18:21 Speaker 11: were helping me craft that sound. But that was me

18:23 Speaker 11: on my own. Fast forward a couple of years and

18:26 Speaker 11: now there's a full band of us, and we all

18:28 Speaker 11: have the same outlook on life. You know, there's more

18:30 Speaker 11: to life. We love music, we loved creating, and you

18:34 Speaker 11: know what, we're all generally nice guys.

18:38 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, is that I mean some of your music.

18:41 Speaker 6: So the song and we're gonna play it later. By

18:44 Speaker 6: the way, at the end of our conversation. A previous

18:45 Speaker 6: single that you had Wanderlust, which I really liked as well.

18:49 Speaker 6: That's another great song, but that one I feel like

18:51 Speaker 6: has a little bit of angst to it, which which

18:54 Speaker 6: is different from short Life. But again that might be

18:56 Speaker 6: my interpretation of it, because obviously, you know, music is art,

18:59 Speaker 6: and art is open to everyone's individual interpretation. But but

19:02 Speaker 6: I do feel like there's a little bit of there's

19:04 Speaker 6: a little bit of anngst in that one, right, or

19:06 Speaker 6: maybe I'm wrong, you tell.

19:07 Speaker 11: Me no, it's a it's a good, good assessment of

19:11 Speaker 11: the song. There's a lot of anks, to be honest,

19:13 Speaker 11: and it was I wrote that when I had all

19:15 Speaker 11: these ideas in me, had all these plans to you know,

19:18 Speaker 11: make a sound, create a band, but I didn't have

19:20 Speaker 11: any of the infrastructure. So all of the anngs there

19:23 Speaker 11: is true. Like the lyric twenty three one way take it,

19:27 Speaker 11: I've flow in the nest. So I moved to Australia.

19:29 Speaker 11: I thought, I need to leave, I need to leave time,

19:31 Speaker 11: I need to leave England, and then I ended up

19:33 Speaker 11: coming home a couple of years later and still being

19:36 Speaker 11: in the same place because you know, when you leave,

19:39 Speaker 11: I'm gonna make it, I'm gonna be a star whatever.

19:41 Speaker 11: A few years later, you sit down you think nothing's changed.

19:44 Speaker 11: So yeah, a lot of that angst is true, and

19:47 Speaker 11: you know, yeah, yeah.

19:49 Speaker 6: It's interesting. I've known a lot of people who they'll

19:52 Speaker 6: do something where they decide, you know, I'm not I'm

19:55 Speaker 6: not happy where I am, and so I'm just gonna

19:58 Speaker 6: move to a new place and everything will be great.

20:00 Speaker 6: And they don't necessarily realize. I mean, don't get me wrong,

20:03 Speaker 6: the scenery and sometimes can be very very healthy. But

20:07 Speaker 6: a lot of times it's just people trying to literally

20:09 Speaker 6: run away from their problems and they don't realize the

20:11 Speaker 6: problems are portable and they go with you and you know,

20:14 Speaker 6: you're still the same person no matter what continent you're on.

20:17 Speaker 6: But I'm really curious, now, why Australia when you moved,

20:20 Speaker 6: Why did you decide to go to Australia?

20:23 Speaker 11: Great question. So I initially went to Ibtha. I just

20:27 Speaker 11: sold all my stuff and bought it one way ticket

20:29 Speaker 11: to Wybtha.

20:30 Speaker 4: Wow.

20:31 Speaker 11: And so in England, we go, we go to a

20:33 Speaker 11: we go to Ibtha. It's like a little thing we

20:35 Speaker 11: do to do a season, to work the summer season.

20:38 Speaker 11: So I thought, I want to quit my job, leave

20:40 Speaker 11: Liverpool behind and you know, go live abroad for a while.

20:43 Speaker 11: And I met somebody who was like, oh, after the

20:46 Speaker 11: season's over, I'm moving to Australia. Do you want to

20:48 Speaker 11: come with me? Obviously? Yes, Well Australia was fantastic, but

20:54 Speaker 11: it wasn't as all as rosy as you would think

20:58 Speaker 11: because it's an unreal place, you know, the weather, the people.

21:02 Speaker 11: But it was like England but with like less friends.

21:05 Speaker 7: It was.

21:06 Speaker 11: It was strange.

21:07 Speaker 6: I we'll say, yeah, how long were you there?

21:11 Speaker 11: Six months? I was there, okay, six six months? And

21:14 Speaker 11: then I realized that, you know, the dream isn't always

21:18 Speaker 11: the dream, and then I, you know, moved along.

21:21 Speaker 8: Yeah.

21:21 Speaker 6: Yeah, did you when you moved back, did you move

21:23 Speaker 6: back to where you were the same area that you

21:26 Speaker 6: were before? Did you pick a different, different area geographically?

21:31 Speaker 11: No, I moved back to the same area. And I'll

21:32 Speaker 11: be honest, six months a year, you know, eighteen months

21:35 Speaker 11: away from your home. Everything looks so everything's the same.

21:39 Speaker 11: People moved on, but everything looks different, everything smells different.

21:42 Speaker 11: And that that's probably where the yank started for me.

21:45 Speaker 11: Was Okay, I left, I left, I've still got these ideas,

21:48 Speaker 11: still haven't got a band. What am I doing with

21:51 Speaker 11: my life?

21:52 Speaker 6: Right? Right? So when you when you put the band together,

21:58 Speaker 6: was that it with intention. Did you say I need

22:01 Speaker 6: I need a band or did that just kind of

22:03 Speaker 6: happen organically where you met people or maybe some people

22:05 Speaker 6: who you already knew, who who said hey, i'd like

22:08 Speaker 6: to be a part of what you're doing, or how

22:10 Speaker 6: did that come about?

22:12 Speaker 11: Yeah, good question. I'll be honest. I always yearned for

22:16 Speaker 11: a band from the age of like twenty two, when

22:18 Speaker 11: I really got into me music, yeah, you know, into

22:21 Speaker 11: pop and rock music. I yearned for a band. So

22:24 Speaker 11: a lot of the time I joined projects for a

22:26 Speaker 11: couple of years when I was the keyboard that though

22:28 Speaker 11: I was a singer, but it was never my band,

22:31 Speaker 11: and I always thought I want my own project, not

22:34 Speaker 11: to control like that. It's more I would like to

22:38 Speaker 11: bring my ideas into a room with people who were

22:42 Speaker 11: who were would like to hear them and would like

22:44 Speaker 11: to make them better. And I didn't have that for

22:47 Speaker 11: I don't even know seven years, eight years, I didn't

22:50 Speaker 11: have that far. And then slowly I started meeting people

22:53 Speaker 11: who were You know, once you start networking and getting

22:56 Speaker 11: out into the industry, you realize you meet like minded people.

23:00 Speaker 11: One thing I will say, which is really important is

23:03 Speaker 11: I didn't know who I was in the early twenties,

23:06 Speaker 11: and then I think as attended, you know, thirty, I

23:09 Speaker 11: realized who I was as a person. And once you

23:11 Speaker 11: accept and understand who you are, the people who you

23:14 Speaker 11: need in your life are naturally drawn to you and

23:17 Speaker 11: you're drawn to them. It's crazy.

23:18 Speaker 6: M hm, No, I think that makes a lot of sense.

23:21 Speaker 6: I think that's that's absolutely what happens. So then you

23:25 Speaker 6: started putting a band together, and then you also have

23:28 Speaker 6: a do you have a specific producer that you work with?

23:31 Speaker 8: Oh, you know what.

23:32 Speaker 11: I love that you've asked me that, because I've got

23:34 Speaker 11: an American producer who I love. He's told Lewis Peskov.

23:37 Speaker 11: He produced the first three songs and wonder, Lust, World

23:42 Speaker 11: and Magic.

23:42 Speaker 6: Okay.

23:44 Speaker 11: It was like a little I wanted to do. I

23:46 Speaker 11: wanted to do an EP with him because I've been

23:48 Speaker 11: following him for a while since you released Well. He

23:50 Speaker 11: produced Best Coast album, which I loved. Yeah, still wanted

23:53 Speaker 11: to top ten albums.

23:54 Speaker 8: Now.

23:55 Speaker 11: I really wanted to work with them, and I'll be honest,

23:57 Speaker 11: I wasn't disappointed. He brought. He brought the sound that

24:01 Speaker 11: had in me in my head alive, which then allowed

24:03 Speaker 11: me to cement that sound and then bring it back

24:06 Speaker 11: to because in England, say, frock isn't huge, and that's cool,

24:11 Speaker 11: you know. I like to be a bit of a

24:13 Speaker 11: not a trendsetter, but I'd like to do my own thing,

24:15 Speaker 11: my own way. It's good to stand out, definitely, you

24:19 Speaker 11: have to stand out because there's so much music being made, Like,

24:22 Speaker 11: how is anybody going to listen to it if it's

24:23 Speaker 11: the same as everything else?

24:24 Speaker 10: Right?

24:25 Speaker 11: But I just go off what I like. I just

24:27 Speaker 11: write songs that I want to hear, if that makes sense.

24:30 Speaker 11: But yeah, We've been friends with the producer for a

24:33 Speaker 11: while in England called John Oh. He's at a place

24:36 Speaker 11: called Alo Sounds, really good producer. He's been helping me,

24:39 Speaker 11: you know, through the years, helping me get me files

24:41 Speaker 11: together for like Lewis the Center America. And then we

24:44 Speaker 11: spoke and he said, listen, if you want me to

24:46 Speaker 11: produce your music, you're going to have to payot a

24:48 Speaker 11: touch because I can't make the low fi that you

24:50 Speaker 11: want to make, he said, But I can't help you.

24:52 Speaker 11: I thought, you know what, Let's try your expertise, my expertise.

24:56 Speaker 11: Let's put our heads together, Let's let's stop trying to

25:00 Speaker 11: be something that we're not, and that's see what we

25:02 Speaker 11: can make in the records. That Short Life is the

25:04 Speaker 11: first record we put out with John. Oh, We've got

25:07 Speaker 11: two or three more singles in the works that I

25:09 Speaker 11: would say better, Yeah, better and more defined.

25:16 Speaker 6: Yes, Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead.

25:20 Speaker 11: No, No, I was just gonna say, like collaborations key,

25:23 Speaker 11: isn't it's all about trial and error?

25:25 Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, Well for some people, I mean, some people

25:27 Speaker 6: are are are afraid to collaborate, you know what I mean,

25:30 Speaker 6: and they insist on doing everything themselves. But but it

25:33 Speaker 6: sounds like in your case, you've found the right people

25:36 Speaker 6: or the right people were drawn to you, as you

25:38 Speaker 6: talked about earlier, when you figure out who you are

25:40 Speaker 6: and you know people are people come into your life

25:43 Speaker 6: who are going to be drawn to you. It sounds

25:46 Speaker 6: like you found the right people to collaborate with. I

25:48 Speaker 6: think some people who are resistant to collaboration, because I

25:51 Speaker 6: talk guardists who are who just insist on doing everything themselves,

25:54 Speaker 6: they probably haven't found the right people to collaborate with,

25:56 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So I think I think

25:58 Speaker 6: that's great. And you mentioned so use the term lo

26:02 Speaker 6: fi and I that hadn't occurred to me. I mean,

26:06 Speaker 6: is that what you were going for with Short Life?

26:07 Speaker 6: Kind of a low fi vibe? Because it didn't occur

26:09 Speaker 6: to me while listening to it, Like I said a

26:12 Speaker 6: lot of things, did you know it's got a kind

26:13 Speaker 6: of a beach vibe and it's but it's it's dreamy,

26:16 Speaker 6: you know, That's that's my word for it. But I mean,

26:18 Speaker 6: is that what you're going for kind of a sort

26:20 Speaker 6: of a low vibe. I don't know if retro is

26:22 Speaker 6: the right word, but but I kind of associate that

26:25 Speaker 6: in my mind with low fis that was what you

26:27 Speaker 6: were trying to achieve with that, and that.

26:30 Speaker 11: Was what I was trying to achieve with the band

26:32 Speaker 11: in general. So I write a lot of music at

26:34 Speaker 11: home on logic. We have got all my guitars and

26:38 Speaker 11: me ams around me and yeah me, you know the

26:41 Speaker 11: stuff that I need to make music, and a lot

26:43 Speaker 11: of the stuff that I make at home is very

26:45 Speaker 11: low fi. And I think there's a tam called I

26:47 Speaker 11: don't know if you know what it's called. It's called

26:49 Speaker 11: demo isis it's when you get you get stuck in

26:52 Speaker 11: the mind set of the sound I've made the demo,

26:55 Speaker 11: this is what the song needs to sound like. But

26:57 Speaker 11: that's not actually conducive to making a great song because

27:00 Speaker 11: sometimes you have to go okay, good start, but let's improve.

27:04 Speaker 6: It, right.

27:06 Speaker 11: But yeah, short Life is the first creation between me,

27:10 Speaker 11: the lads you know, the group specifics, and the producer

27:13 Speaker 11: Johno because he brings a more British indie rock garage

27:17 Speaker 11: punk type vibes. So when we like, when we mash

27:21 Speaker 11: all our influencers together, that's a sound that came out.

27:25 Speaker 11: But that that was the conversation I think I mentioned

27:27 Speaker 11: a few minutes ago where he said, listen your way.

27:30 Speaker 11: I can't. I can't record and produce your way you

27:35 Speaker 11: know at my best. So I decided, okay, I'll bring

27:38 Speaker 11: my ideas, you bring your ideas and let's meet in

27:41 Speaker 11: the middle. And that's how we done that. So I

27:42 Speaker 11: think that's how we got that more modern sound with

27:45 Speaker 11: little bit of retro edge.

27:47 Speaker 8: Yeah.

27:47 Speaker 6: Yeah. Also something else I was reading, so can you

27:51 Speaker 6: tell me about the Rick Rubin principle that you you

27:53 Speaker 6: you'd rather have because I can relate to this. You

27:57 Speaker 6: you'd you like strong reactions, right even if something even

28:01 Speaker 6: if somebody doesn't like something, that you've done, you'd prefer

28:03 Speaker 6: that to sort of indifference. Is that correct? Do you

28:06 Speaker 6: understand that?

28:06 Speaker 8: Right?

28:08 Speaker 11: Yeah?

28:08 Speaker 8: I love it.

28:08 Speaker 11: I feel like in difference is the one thing you

28:10 Speaker 11: need to avoid. People don't realize it. It's a bit

28:13 Speaker 11: like it's one of those things indifference that it just

28:16 Speaker 11: passes you by. Was love and hate a visceral reactions.

28:20 Speaker 11: So I have a feeling and this is an assumption

28:23 Speaker 11: of course that you know, I've been playing for five

28:25 Speaker 11: years and we are at a certain stage of our

28:28 Speaker 11: career because I think people love us and hate us.

28:32 Speaker 11: So I'm able to play more shows to like, you know,

28:34 Speaker 11: bigger venues, to more people because we do get the

28:37 Speaker 11: visceral reactions because say a frock in England, it's not

28:41 Speaker 11: really that common. But I love playing it and I'll

28:43 Speaker 11: always play it because, like I said before, I make

28:46 Speaker 11: music for me. But yeah, Rick Rubin was it was

28:48 Speaker 11: such an inspiration to think, Oh I get it now,

28:52 Speaker 11: love or hates great indifference not so much.

28:54 Speaker 12: So.

28:55 Speaker 11: Someone came up with me after the show recently and said, oh,

28:57 Speaker 11: that song is terrible, and I said, oh, thank you.

29:00 Speaker 6: Right at liast I felt something, Yeah, look.

29:06 Speaker 11: It doesn't even offend me. I think it's great. I'm like,

29:08 Speaker 11: thank you because you've taken the time to speak to me.

29:10 Speaker 11: So I appreciate that.

29:11 Speaker 6: Yeah, And then how does someone react, like when you react,

29:15 Speaker 6: when you react to you know, they're they're putting down

29:17 Speaker 6: the song and then you react positively and say, you know,

29:20 Speaker 6: thank you. I mean, do they do they then in

29:22 Speaker 6: that moment seem to get it why you appreciate it?

29:25 Speaker 6: Or are they just kind of do they look at

29:27 Speaker 6: you like what really? You're you like what I said?

29:30 Speaker 6: Like what happens? Then?

29:32 Speaker 11: Do you know what? It's a mixture. You know, you

29:35 Speaker 11: have to remember we haven't met yet. But I'm six

29:37 Speaker 11: foot five.

29:38 Speaker 6: Oh my god, you're a tall guy.

29:40 Speaker 11: I'm six five, I've got long air and a beard.

29:43 Speaker 1: Yeah.

29:43 Speaker 11: So, like you ever know what reaction you're going to

29:45 Speaker 11: get from people? So I usually there's always somebody saying

29:49 Speaker 11: something to like try and chop you down. But it doesn't.

29:51 Speaker 11: It goes in one ear and goes out to the other.

29:53 Speaker 11: Like it doesn't phaze me. When it comes to music critique,

29:57 Speaker 11: there's you know, there's some truth in it, isn't if

29:59 Speaker 11: somebody is like brave and honest enough to say to you, Oh,

30:02 Speaker 11: I don't like that, I don't like this part, or

30:04 Speaker 11: I don't like this part of my performance. I'll listen

30:06 Speaker 11: and write it down, think, okay, is there some truth

30:09 Speaker 11: in that? And I'll investigate it and sometimes there is,

30:11 Speaker 11: you know, and it makes me improve as a performer.

30:14 Speaker 11: So feedback, you know, feedback on my art or on

30:17 Speaker 11: my music. I love feedback on myself. Not interested, don't care.

30:22 Speaker 6: Right right, Yeah, I've always said, I mean, that's kind

30:26 Speaker 6: of always been my approach to radio is I have

30:29 Speaker 6: an adage. I always say I'd rather be loved than hated,

30:32 Speaker 6: but I'd rather be hated than ignored, you know, because

30:35 Speaker 6: if if people are indifferent to what you're doing, then

30:37 Speaker 6: it's like, well what, you know, what's the point? You know?

30:39 Speaker 6: Or or it's kind of like in professional wrestling, right,

30:43 Speaker 6: like if you're a good guy, you want to be cheered.

30:45 Speaker 6: If you're a bad guy, you want to be booed.

30:47 Speaker 6: But the one thing you don't want is the crowd

30:49 Speaker 6: to be quiet when you walk out. You know, you

30:51 Speaker 6: want to get a reaction out of people and you

30:52 Speaker 6: want them to feel something. So but I think it's

30:56 Speaker 6: interesting too that and I commend you for this for

30:58 Speaker 6: taking the attitude that you do because you know, as

31:01 Speaker 6: you know, creative people, we tend to be you know,

31:07 Speaker 6: a lot of us tend to be kind of insecure

31:08 Speaker 6: in that way and and we don't and we don't

31:11 Speaker 6: react to any kind of criticism positively or you know

31:16 Speaker 6: what I mean. Like some people really get their feelings hurt.

31:19 Speaker 6: So I I like, have you always had that sort

31:21 Speaker 6: of emotional maturity? Is that something you you've always that's

31:25 Speaker 6: always been internal for you?

31:28 Speaker 8: No?

31:29 Speaker 11: I had to developed that, you know, really, because like

31:32 Speaker 11: I'm in me theirties now, So I think a lot

31:35 Speaker 11: of it's self development. And you know there's a thing,

31:38 Speaker 11: isn't it like? And it's a lot of creative to it.

31:41 Speaker 11: And you can say that I don't like you know,

31:43 Speaker 11: I can say I don't need to be liked. But

31:44 Speaker 11: when you put music out, you hope people like it, right,

31:47 Speaker 11: And a lot of is an extension of you. And

31:48 Speaker 11: so you think, if you don't like my music, you

31:51 Speaker 11: don't like me. So after a while you just kind

31:53 Speaker 11: of stop caring. But one thing I don't like is

31:56 Speaker 11: I don't like being ignored. You know, if you send

31:58 Speaker 11: an email to somebody that all listened to me song

32:00 Speaker 11: or check out my new record. I'd rather say this

32:04 Speaker 11: is terrible as opposed to you know, not the right

32:07 Speaker 11: A question for you because you mentioned professional wrestler. I

32:09 Speaker 11: noticed that you do wrestling podcasts, right, I do. Yes,

32:13 Speaker 11: I love that man because I used to be when

32:16 Speaker 11: I was left a kid, you know, in the nice

32:17 Speaker 11: I loved wrestler, loved wc W. Oh no, kiddy, So

32:22 Speaker 11: have you interviewed any any like cool wrestlers on there?

32:24 Speaker 11: Because I've only just noticed, like the past couple of days,

32:27 Speaker 11: you have a pod. I'm gonna listen to it. Oh

32:29 Speaker 11: if you do any great legendary wrestlers from those days.

32:32 Speaker 4: No.

32:33 Speaker 6: So the wrestling podcast that we do it is called

32:35 Speaker 6: Tough Bumps, and we're only up to I think we're

32:38 Speaker 6: an episode. I think we just did episode ten. Oh

32:41 Speaker 6: no wait, I'm sorry. No, we're up to episode I

32:43 Speaker 6: think we're almost up to episode twenty. So, but it's

32:45 Speaker 6: it's only been so, it's been about four months. We

32:47 Speaker 6: do it once a week, so it's relatively new. So

32:51 Speaker 6: we do have long term goals to start to get

32:54 Speaker 6: some of those guests, but right now it's just Eric

32:56 Speaker 6: and I my co host on the show, Eric Pilter,

32:58 Speaker 6: and we just you know, we we usually we call

33:01 Speaker 6: it the undercard. We talk about some of the wrestling

33:03 Speaker 6: news of the week, and then the main event is

33:04 Speaker 6: we pick a subject that you know that we want

33:07 Speaker 6: to explore really in depth. But we will you know,

33:11 Speaker 6: stay tuned, as we say, we will be doing some

33:14 Speaker 6: interviews in the future. Absolutely, yeah, they were good.

33:17 Speaker 11: They were in my eyes, they were the golden years

33:20 Speaker 11: of wrestling. But enough about wrestling, apologies, But how do

33:24 Speaker 11: you deal with rejection? You know, because you're a creative yourself,

33:27 Speaker 11: like you said, you the whole love hate, indifferent. How

33:31 Speaker 11: do you cope with it? Because like you said to me,

33:33 Speaker 11: I can handle it just bounces off me. How do

33:36 Speaker 11: you cope with it?

33:37 Speaker 6: So for me, as long as it's something I'm doing creatively,

33:40 Speaker 6: I take nothing personal. So if because I actually I'm

33:45 Speaker 6: a very sensitive person away from all of this, like

33:48 Speaker 6: if someone, if someone in my life says something to

33:51 Speaker 6: me that hurts my feelings, it won't just hurt a

33:53 Speaker 6: little little crush me, you know. I mean, I'll recover,

33:55 Speaker 6: I'll get past it. But I'm very sensitive that way.

33:57 Speaker 6: But when it comes to anything having to do with.

34:00 Speaker 6: I am a musician, but I don't play anymore. Mainly,

34:03 Speaker 6: I just focus on radio and podcasting now. But if

34:08 Speaker 6: if somebody says something mean, say online on the internet,

34:12 Speaker 6: I actually like it so, but I think that I

34:17 Speaker 6: kind of look at it from a couple of different perspectives. Again,

34:20 Speaker 6: I mean, part of it is I'd rather be I'd

34:23 Speaker 6: rather be loved than hated, but I'd rather be hated

34:24 Speaker 6: than ignored. So if they say something mean, well, at

34:27 Speaker 6: least they're paying attention to me, and it's good for

34:29 Speaker 6: It's good for what I do, right, you know, even

34:31 Speaker 6: if someone listens to the show but they hate listen

34:33 Speaker 6: to the show, at least they're listening. But there's also

34:36 Speaker 6: that part of me that wonders, though, is it really

34:39 Speaker 6: healthy or is it just this sort of narcissism that

34:42 Speaker 6: I carry where it's like I just want attention and

34:45 Speaker 6: I'll take whatever attention I can get, positive or negative.

34:48 Speaker 6: I just want the attention. So I don't know if

34:51 Speaker 6: it's healthy or not the way that I look at it,

34:54 Speaker 6: but I think it is, but sometimes I question it

34:57 Speaker 6: If that makes sense.

34:59 Speaker 11: No, definitely, But I love I love your approach as well,

35:02 Speaker 11: and I think it's it's a healthy approach because you know,

35:05 Speaker 11: it's hard to separate the art from the artist. But

35:08 Speaker 11: sometimes they're not. I always say this the people who

35:11 Speaker 11: work for In England, we have like people who work

35:13 Speaker 11: for charities and stuff, and they try and sign you

35:16 Speaker 11: up in the street to give you like ten pounds

35:17 Speaker 11: a month, and I always say to them, I always

35:19 Speaker 11: pull them aside and say, I love what you're doing.

35:21 Speaker 11: I don't have the time or you know, I'll sign

35:23 Speaker 11: up to your cause. But I understand that a lot

35:25 Speaker 11: of rejection is they're not rejecting you. They're rejecting your badge,

35:28 Speaker 11: the rejecting the company you work for. And sometimes you

35:30 Speaker 11: have to separate that they're not rejecting you, they're rejecting

35:33 Speaker 11: your art. And right, that's cool, man, you know that's

35:35 Speaker 11: just the way it is. But I'll the rejections that

35:38 Speaker 11: I get. I'll keep making art regardless because I make

35:40 Speaker 11: it for me.

35:41 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's uh. I think that's excellent.

35:44 Speaker 6: I think that's excellent. Now, what is what is kind

35:47 Speaker 6: of the future trajectory for you? You know, you've you've

35:50 Speaker 6: got some singles. I mean, do you do you have

35:52 Speaker 6: an album? Or in the works or are you gonna

35:55 Speaker 6: do an EP or you mentioned an EP earlier.

35:59 Speaker 11: Yes, we are looking to do anyp we are. We've

36:03 Speaker 11: got a couple of songs in the works that are

36:05 Speaker 11: actually I think we'll make a bit of a not

36:09 Speaker 11: a bit of a difference, make a big difference at

36:11 Speaker 11: our trajectory. I'm also of trying to get on the

36:16 Speaker 11: voting the board, the voting board for the Grammys. I'd

36:19 Speaker 11: really like to do that because I have the credits.

36:21 Speaker 11: I've been writing songs and producing songs for a while. Yeah,

36:23 Speaker 11: so that's only a list of to dos. I think

36:27 Speaker 11: we'd like to play a couple of big shows, a

36:29 Speaker 11: major festival because I played Glastonbury last year. I landed

36:32 Speaker 11: on opportunity to play Glastonbury, which was unreal. I can't

36:36 Speaker 11: even tell you, but I ended up playing solo. It

36:38 Speaker 11: was the last minute slot. I had like a month

36:40 Speaker 11: to prepare, so I thought, right, I'll take me piano

36:42 Speaker 11: and I'll just play solo. Yeah, it was surreal experience.

36:46 Speaker 6: Oh that's excellent. And any kind of festival too that

36:48 Speaker 6: you can get on. Those are such For one thing,

36:52 Speaker 6: it gets you in front of a big crowd and

36:55 Speaker 6: it exposes you to an audience that might not otherwise

36:58 Speaker 6: hear you, but also are the whatuld not otherwise. But

37:01 Speaker 6: also the networking opportunities that come at a festival are phenomenal.

37:05 Speaker 6: You know, you meet so many people and and I

37:09 Speaker 6: was reading something too about you that you like to

37:12 Speaker 6: and and again this also I think speaks to your

37:14 Speaker 6: emotional maturity and how you approach all this. You know,

37:17 Speaker 6: you don't get jealous of people who are or who

37:19 Speaker 6: are successful. You focus on learning from them. And I

37:23 Speaker 6: think that's great because that's you know, a lot of

37:26 Speaker 6: people think success in any kind of endeavor, whether it's

37:30 Speaker 6: the music industry or just life in general, people tend

37:32 Speaker 6: to think of it as a zero sum game. Well,

37:33 Speaker 6: if somebody else is more successful, that means I'm automatically

37:36 Speaker 6: less successful, you know, like there's only so much to

37:38 Speaker 6: go around. But the key is to learn from people

37:42 Speaker 6: who are more successful or who are older, maybe further

37:45 Speaker 6: along in their careers, and you know, and and to

37:49 Speaker 6: take that opportunity to learn from them. And also they've

37:52 Speaker 6: proven that you can do it, So if they can

37:53 Speaker 6: do it, then there's no reason why you can't do

37:55 Speaker 6: it too, right, So you know, there's validation that comes

37:58 Speaker 6: with that, So I commend you for that too.

38:01 Speaker 11: Thank you. It's funny you say that, and that's one

38:03 Speaker 11: of the reasons. That's probably the main reason why Pacific

38:05 Speaker 11: Keys is what it is today. So you know, I

38:08 Speaker 11: was I was playing all the parts, organizing everything, pretty

38:12 Speaker 11: much managing the show before, you know, a couple of

38:15 Speaker 11: years ago. But then I meet a guitarist who's better

38:17 Speaker 11: than me, and I'm like, please join me band. I

38:20 Speaker 11: meet a drummer who understands drums more than me, Please

38:23 Speaker 11: join the band. You know, That's what it was. So

38:25 Speaker 11: now I met four players who were far better than

38:28 Speaker 11: me on their own instruments. I think fantastic. I can

38:30 Speaker 11: now focus on what I'm strong at, which is you know, production, songwriting,

38:34 Speaker 11: and singing, and now I can trust them to do

38:37 Speaker 11: a great job. So you're right. I try not to

38:40 Speaker 11: get jealous because it's hard not to get jealous because

38:43 Speaker 11: you know, you want to be You want to be

38:45 Speaker 11: on stage, you want to be you think I should

38:46 Speaker 11: be that I deserve to be there. But at the

38:48 Speaker 11: same time, you got to wait your turn. Man, Your

38:50 Speaker 11: time will come because the last thing you want, let's say,

38:53 Speaker 11: I think oh, I should be at Glassmer, I should

38:55 Speaker 11: be at Leeds Festival, or you know, I should be

38:57 Speaker 11: playing at Cochella. They've spent ten fifteen years working to

39:01 Speaker 11: get towards that, for example, and I'm what I'd probably say,

39:04 Speaker 11: I'm seven years into this project, probably like you know,

39:09 Speaker 11: twenty five years of like a music career. But I

39:12 Speaker 11: would hate for me to get on stage and people

39:13 Speaker 11: say thinking, oh, whise, how does he deserve to be

39:16 Speaker 11: up there to make up work for ten fifteen years.

39:19 Speaker 11: So you have to accept that you've got to put

39:20 Speaker 11: the work in and you know what, you might fail,

39:23 Speaker 11: and that's okay because you know, Alicia doing certain that

39:26 Speaker 11: you love, that's all that matters.

39:28 Speaker 6: Absolutely, the word. You know, the scariest thing in life

39:31 Speaker 6: would be, you know, to get to get to the

39:34 Speaker 6: end of it and look back and say, you know

39:36 Speaker 6: what if I had tried, you know what if I

39:37 Speaker 6: had followed my passions. I mean that that would scare

39:40 Speaker 6: the hell out of me, you know, just just looking

39:43 Speaker 6: back with regret and saying, you know, maybe maybe I

39:46 Speaker 6: should have you know, gone for it. But so no,

39:48 Speaker 6: I agree with you. I mean, you know this is

39:50 Speaker 6: only well, you know, like the song says, you know,

39:52 Speaker 6: it's a short life.

39:54 Speaker 11: So you know what I fear most. I fear getting

39:57 Speaker 11: to the end of the journey, like being successful and

40:01 Speaker 11: feeling empty. So that makes me. I hear a lot

40:04 Speaker 11: about that, Like there's a lot about people who win

40:07 Speaker 11: awards and play stadiums. They do that they hit the

40:10 Speaker 11: goal and they're empty, and that's because they've spent the

40:13 Speaker 11: whole journey thinking about the goal. Whereas you have to

40:16 Speaker 11: just live in the journey, man, Yeah, live in the present.

40:19 Speaker 11: Nothing's guaranteed. The only thing's guaranteed now is I'm speaking

40:22 Speaker 11: to you. I might go down and make a cup

40:24 Speaker 11: of tea afterwards after we speak. That's all that's guaranteed. Man,

40:27 Speaker 11: nothing else. Live in the moment and just try and

40:30 Speaker 11: enjoy the journey because it's tough.

40:31 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to enjoy the ride. Or

40:34 Speaker 6: there's an expression in America. I don't know if they

40:35 Speaker 6: say it here, if they say it over there, but

40:38 Speaker 6: getting there is half the fun. But even that's not

40:41 Speaker 6: necessarily true. Sometimes I think probably getting there is all

40:44 Speaker 6: the fun. You know, and then you know, and then

40:46 Speaker 6: when you get there, you got to find a new

40:47 Speaker 6: mountain to climb or something, But yeah, you better enjoy

40:50 Speaker 6: getting there.

40:53 Speaker 11: It's so true because you've got all these scars and

40:55 Speaker 11: memories of getting there. If somebody said to you today

40:57 Speaker 11: are here's a button, if you press this, we'll give

40:59 Speaker 11: you a numbnumber one album. We'll give you a you know,

41:02 Speaker 11: a million pounds. I don't believe for a second that

41:05 Speaker 11: in six months you'll appreciate that. But I think all

41:08 Speaker 11: the graphs that you're doing with yourself as well with

41:10 Speaker 11: your radio show and your podcast, like you seem as

41:12 Speaker 11: a person like me, you know you want to go

41:14 Speaker 11: to the top of your game, and I think it's

41:17 Speaker 11: that it's the hard way you put in. You look back,

41:20 Speaker 11: you know, five years down the line, you look out

41:22 Speaker 11: onto like you know, your property or your money, your bank, whatever,

41:25 Speaker 11: and you think I deserve I not I deserve this,

41:28 Speaker 11: because nobody deserves anything. I earned this right. I worked

41:31 Speaker 11: hard for this, and I think that's the longevity of it.

41:33 Speaker 11: And you'll keep going. You think, Okay, I aint me

41:35 Speaker 11: number one record. I'm going to go get a second

41:37 Speaker 11: one because nobody give it to me. Nobody gives you

41:39 Speaker 11: anything in this life, right, you know, you're not entitled

41:42 Speaker 11: to anything.

41:43 Speaker 6: Go get it though exactly Yeah, very well said very well,

41:46 Speaker 6: said well, Jack, I really appreciate you joining us here today.

41:50 Speaker 6: Not only is it I've been excited to talk to

41:53 Speaker 6: you about your music, but also I think you've given

41:57 Speaker 6: because a lot of musicians listen to the show, a

41:59 Speaker 6: lot of industry people, I think you've given a lot

42:01 Speaker 6: of really good advice and insight today too, which is

42:03 Speaker 6: really cool. So I appreciate that, and and I enjoy

42:07 Speaker 6: I appreciate your outlook on everything. I think it's I

42:09 Speaker 6: think it's excellent. And in a moment, like I said,

42:12 Speaker 6: we'll close out the segment with this track Wanderlust, which

42:14 Speaker 6: I also think is great. Oh and I wanted to

42:17 Speaker 6: ask you too about the video for this. The video

42:20 Speaker 6: is really cool. The video for Wanderlust. I encouraged people

42:22 Speaker 6: go on YouTube check it out that like did you

42:27 Speaker 6: I mean, how much traveling did you do to make

42:29 Speaker 6: that video?

42:30 Speaker 11: And Nellie died, you know, I fell in the river

42:34 Speaker 11: and everything. But honestly, it was such a it was

42:37 Speaker 11: such an amazing slash traumatic video shoot. Like we were

42:41 Speaker 11: on top of the mountain and in the middle of

42:43 Speaker 11: the lake districts in England, like we'd walked two hours

42:46 Speaker 11: to get you know, the shot Wow fell in a

42:49 Speaker 11: river like I got wet. All my stuff, We've got

42:52 Speaker 11: all the gear was missing. Honestly, it was well we

42:56 Speaker 11: got the shot man and that's all that matters. Yeah,

42:58 Speaker 11: I will say, if you on a good video, you're

43:01 Speaker 11: gonna have to walk through hell for it. It doesn't

43:04 Speaker 11: come easy, man. But yeah, it was a good befriend

43:07 Speaker 11: Dylan Witty. He's an amazing, amazing video and it's a

43:10 Speaker 11: amazing director and he helped me, you know, put that

43:13 Speaker 11: vision together because that was the first piece of music

43:15 Speaker 11: that I put out, so I wanted to put something

43:18 Speaker 11: out with a bang. But I will say, any any

43:19 Speaker 11: musicians artists listening, Wanderlus had three or four mixes over

43:24 Speaker 11: like four years. For four years, I couldn't get I

43:26 Speaker 11: couldn't get the right sound that I wanted. It was

43:30 Speaker 11: tough and it was that whole you know, is it

43:33 Speaker 11: is it good enough?

43:33 Speaker 12: No?

43:34 Speaker 11: Okay, back to the drawing. But I spent thousands mates,

43:36 Speaker 11: but the result that I wanted, So you know, I

43:40 Speaker 11: maybe too much perfectionism is a bit too much. But

43:43 Speaker 11: for me, if you're going to make an impact, do

43:45 Speaker 11: it properly. Yes, I think.

43:47 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, well well done. It's a it's an excellent video.

43:50 Speaker 6: Like I said, I encourage people to go online and

43:51 Speaker 6: check it out and we will close out the segment

43:54 Speaker 6: with that song again, another great song. But Jack, we

43:57 Speaker 6: will definitely do this again in the future. When you

43:59 Speaker 6: were do you have any idea when your next single

44:02 Speaker 6: might be out? Any any any idea or not to

44:04 Speaker 6: put you on the spot, But.

44:06 Speaker 11: No, not to put you on spots at all. I'll

44:08 Speaker 11: be honest. I think maybe a couple of weeks. I'm

44:10 Speaker 11: just doing the finals. I'm looking for a strings and

44:13 Speaker 11: brass player to help me round out the sound, okay,

44:16 Speaker 11: And can I just give a shout out before to

44:18 Speaker 11: go if that's all right?

44:19 Speaker 6: Oh please? Yeah, absolutely.

44:20 Speaker 11: I just want to say thanks to Big GPR for

44:23 Speaker 11: getting me the interview. Thank you to you, Matt. I

44:24 Speaker 11: really appreciate you. And thanks to We Believe as well

44:29 Speaker 11: and my keys. You know, let's let's keep let's keep

44:32 Speaker 11: hitting those heights and who knows next year where we'll be.

44:35 Speaker 6: Absolutely, and everybody you mentioned such great people you know,

44:38 Speaker 6: and and and uh where they know how to find talent,

44:41 Speaker 6: that's for sure. Everybody, everybody they've sent us has been

44:46 Speaker 6: absolutely amazing, including you, So I'm really glad to talk

44:50 Speaker 6: to you today, Jack, and thank you so much for

44:52 Speaker 6: joining us. We're going to hit this track, so we'll

44:53 Speaker 6: let you go, but I look forward to the next

44:56 Speaker 6: single and we will definitely have to do this again

44:58 Speaker 6: in the near future. So thank you so much.

45:01 Speaker 11: Look forward it past to look man, and keep doing

45:02 Speaker 11: what you're doing you grace.

45:03 Speaker 6: Oh thanks Jack, I appreciate you, man. All right, take care,

45:07 Speaker 6: thank you, all right, bye bye, all right. That was

45:09 Speaker 6: Jack from Pacific A's and we're gonna play this track now.

45:13 Speaker 6: This is called one wander Lust and this is really good.

45:16 Speaker 6: And again check out the video not right now, stick

45:18 Speaker 6: with me for now, but later check out the video online.

45:20 Speaker 6: You'll like the video too. They put a lot of

45:22 Speaker 6: work into it, as Jack indicated, and a lot of

45:27 Speaker 6: some terrifying moments too. But check this out. This is

45:29 Speaker 6: called Wanderlust and this is Pacific A'sest.

45:58 Speaker 4: It's a meets on.

46:00 Speaker 13: Who Knows Me?

46:01 Speaker 14: Missed twenty three with me to get a flown and

46:05 Speaker 14: there's twenty eight back home all of life for the Fierce.

46:17 Speaker 14: One of my thoughts on the page thought to be

46:21 Speaker 14: happy and the say dreamer sy all.

46:26 Speaker 1: Every day.

46:28 Speaker 14: The feeling of my jesty will go.

46:30 Speaker 5: Oh wait, I got onelest and I don't know who trust.

46:38 Speaker 15: They say it's up to someone.

46:42 Speaker 4: So I'm telling you.

46:48 Speaker 3: Fierce cold.

46:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is so sad.

47:02 Speaker 3: Where the stones stone start.

47:06 Speaker 10: Such a.

47:10 Speaker 3: Fist like go.

47:18 Speaker 1: Feeling in my bones.

47:21 Speaker 11: To live the life I can let go, not there easily.

47:29 Speaker 15: The midnight Sky and the Lighter see Inspiration reveals the

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47:41 Speaker 4: With dead, then.

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47:51 Speaker 4: I don't know who trust.

47:54 Speaker 11: They say it's off.

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