The Grey Curtain (Dennis and Troy) | Matt Connarton Unleashed

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3:33 Speaker 4: So so Chise just chose to sit back the show.

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5:36 Speaker 7: Wo, I just wanted to let that fade out.

6:19 Speaker 1: That's so cool.

6:20 Speaker 8: That is it's pretty intense. That's short term solution. The

6:23 Speaker 8: band is the Gray Curtain, and we've got Dennis and Troy.

6:26 Speaker 8: We're gonna speak with them in just a moment. Welcome everybody,

6:28 Speaker 8: if you are listening live on Saturday, we have entered

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6:34 Speaker 8: and we are live from the studios of WMNH ninety

6:37 Speaker 8: five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Today

6:41 Speaker 8: is Saturday October four, twenty twenty five. Jenny is here,

6:45 Speaker 8: of course at the news table, present and accounted for,

6:48 Speaker 8: and let's talk with these guys. Dennis, you've been on

6:51 Speaker 8: the show before, of course, you've been on a couple

6:53 Speaker 8: of times now, right.

6:54 Speaker 9: I've been on the show with you guys twice, one

6:58 Speaker 9: in person, one over the phone.

7:00 Speaker 8: Oh that's right, that's right, yes, And Troy, this is

7:03 Speaker 8: your first time, you're right.

7:04 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, thanks for having me. It's great to be here.

7:06 Speaker 10: This is actually the first time on the radio.

7:08 Speaker 7: It's oh no kidding, yeah, yeah, really cool to you know,

7:10 Speaker 7: be here.

7:11 Speaker 11: And oh well a lot of film experience. Thank you.

7:14 Speaker 7: What do you do in the band?

7:15 Speaker 11: I play guitar?

7:16 Speaker 8: Okay, okay, excellent, excellent. So the song we just heard,

7:19 Speaker 8: short term Solution, is that new? Is that a new

7:21 Speaker 8: single or no?

7:22 Speaker 9: No? Short term is part of the first album, Shadow

7:26 Speaker 9: of a Man. Okay, came out around fourteen fifteen sixteen,

7:32 Speaker 9: and yeah, it's it's one of the older tracks.

7:38 Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, Now what is the meaning of that song?

7:40 Speaker 8: Because obviously, I mean there must be a reason that

7:42 Speaker 8: you chose that for today. That was one of the

7:44 Speaker 8: one of the ones you sent us.

7:45 Speaker 1: Well, we talked a bit off air about this, but.

7:52 Speaker 9: During twenty twelve, I was going at twenty eleven twenty twelve,

7:58 Speaker 9: I was going through like award spiral where I was

8:04 Speaker 9: kind of alienating everybody around me and going through a

8:10 Speaker 9: very dark period of time my life and basically drinking

8:18 Speaker 9: myself into an early grave. The entire album Shadow of

8:22 Speaker 9: a Man is based on that time, where I would

8:28 Speaker 9: get up in the morning, drunk, start drinking, go over

8:33 Speaker 9: to the bar, spend most of my money at one

8:35 Speaker 9: bar until they told me to leave, go to the

8:38 Speaker 9: next bar in my hometown, drink until they told me

8:41 Speaker 9: to leave, go home, pass out, wake up, do it

8:43 Speaker 9: all over again.

8:45 Speaker 2: And I.

8:51 Speaker 9: Remember a quote at a show at a benefit that

8:55 Speaker 9: we were playing that suicide is a uh was a

9:01 Speaker 9: permanent solution to a short term problem. And uh, that's

9:07 Speaker 9: kind of what kind of jolted that song into into existence,

9:15 Speaker 9: because drinking was always my short term solution to getting

9:20 Speaker 9: through the day, because the moment I would sober up,

9:23 Speaker 9: I'd have to face reality and I didn't want.

9:25 Speaker 7: To do that right But.

9:29 Speaker 9: Luckily this album this project as has helped me in

9:35 Speaker 9: a lot of ways get through a lot of my demons.

9:37 Speaker 9: I still suffer a lot of days, and unfortunately people

9:41 Speaker 9: around me thankfully have a lot of tolerance for that.

9:46 Speaker 7: Yeah.

9:48 Speaker 9: I I guess that's the word. I'm tolerated by h

9:52 Speaker 9: by a lot of people in my life.

9:55 Speaker 8: I was gonna say, you're obviously, you know, valued and loved,

9:58 Speaker 8: you know, I mean, you know, it's it's it's not

10:01 Speaker 8: it's not tolerating you. It's you know, obviously these people

10:04 Speaker 8: care for you a great deal.

10:05 Speaker 10: And it's it's definitely like that album in particular, it's

10:08 Speaker 10: like it gives a voice to, like, you know, all

10:11 Speaker 10: these problems that a lot of people have in their lives,

10:13 Speaker 10: and it's that that the throes of addiction and and

10:17 Speaker 10: just getting through it like that.

10:19 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely do Do people come up to

10:23 Speaker 8: you at shows or contact you online who've who've listened

10:26 Speaker 8: to this music and and kind of reach out and say, hey,

10:30 Speaker 8: I I can relate.

10:30 Speaker 7: To this, or this has helped me in some.

10:32 Speaker 1: Way or yeah, yeah.

10:33 Speaker 9: I when it first came out, it not so much.

10:39 Speaker 9: I don't know what happened. Maybe the uh, maybe the

10:44 Speaker 9: environment has changed over the last few years, where like

10:47 Speaker 9: talking about mental health has become okay.

10:53 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think it's much less stigmatized.

10:55 Speaker 10: A yeah, definitely, I feel like has had and even

11:00 Speaker 10: more so like post like pandemic, that's like everybody's coming

11:03 Speaker 10: out of their houses and it's like, you know what's

11:06 Speaker 10: going on with you and you just kind of spill

11:07 Speaker 10: your whole life out to you to your your friends

11:10 Speaker 10: that you haven't seen in a while.

11:11 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I remember. I won't say names obviously, but

11:17 Speaker 9: there was a young woman. We played out in uh In,

11:20 Speaker 9: Maine at a place called Charlie's Hill.

11:23 Speaker 8: That venue, the name of that venue comes up a

11:25 Speaker 8: lot on the show. Apparently it's pretty cool. Oh really,

11:28 Speaker 8: it's great. We played there once. We can't wait to

11:30 Speaker 8: go back. They treat local bands like their nationals over there. Yeah,

11:34 Speaker 8: and I remember this one woman came up to me.

11:41 Speaker 8: Couldn't have been twenty one yet. And when I'm on stage,

11:46 Speaker 8: I like to let people in the crowd, whether they

11:49 Speaker 8: whether they need it or not.

11:51 Speaker 1: I just want them to know that.

11:52 Speaker 9: If they feel isolated, if they feel alone, you know,

11:56 Speaker 9: come to me, you know, because I know what that feeling.

11:59 Speaker 9: Feels like I know what it feels like to isolate yourself,

12:03 Speaker 9: whether it's on purpose or because you know, you just

12:07 Speaker 9: don't have anyone to talk to. And I've I had

12:13 Speaker 9: the chance to talk to her, and she told me

12:18 Speaker 9: how she was having suicidal ideations and she couldn't escape

12:21 Speaker 9: it no matter how hard she tried. And we talked

12:24 Speaker 9: for a good three hours. And when I just I

12:31 Speaker 9: just remember her face when she approached me, mascara coming

12:35 Speaker 9: down her face. And after she walked away, I noticed

12:42 Speaker 9: there's were you still there, Troy?

12:44 Speaker 11: I might have left you.

12:46 Speaker 9: There was a line of like probably five six nine

12:51 Speaker 9: people wanting to like talk. Three o'clock in the morning,

12:57 Speaker 9: I'm still out in Maine talking to people. Friend John

13:01 Speaker 9: who came with me, John Foley to John, Yeah, he

13:07 Speaker 9: came with me, and I think it was like eight

13:10 Speaker 9: o'clock in the morning. We finally got back to the

13:14 Speaker 9: Wister area where we're from, and I, I don't know what,

13:22 Speaker 9: I don't know, I don't know how to explain it.

13:23 Speaker 9: But I felt so much lighter, you know, And I

13:29 Speaker 9: felt like I had actually done some good, not just

13:34 Speaker 9: for myself, not just to spread message of self awareness

13:38 Speaker 9: and and making it okay to talk about these things.

13:44 Speaker 9: But I have always in my heart, I just I

13:48 Speaker 9: always want to help people. I always want to let

13:52 Speaker 9: people know that it's okay to not be okay. As

13:56 Speaker 9: cliche as that's saying has become, it's it's true. And

14:01 Speaker 9: it's the reason why it's become cliche is because you

14:04 Speaker 9: know it's important to have that in your head. And

14:09 Speaker 9: that's really where our music stems from. I talked to

14:12 Speaker 9: you about this the last time I was here. All

14:14 Speaker 9: of our music is based around a town called the

14:19 Speaker 9: Town of Apathy, and I created that after reading or

14:24 Speaker 9: it's not even reading, listening to a quote from Henry

14:28 Speaker 9: Miller said the best way to get over a woman

14:30 Speaker 9: is to turn her into literature. So I created this

14:34 Speaker 9: town with all of my hurts, habits, hang ups, all

14:36 Speaker 9: of my bullies, every bad memory I've ever had, and

14:40 Speaker 9: created characters and put them in a town that they

14:43 Speaker 9: can't escape. The first album, it's a fictional character by

14:50 Speaker 9: the name of Nathan Knopf loses the love of his

14:53 Speaker 9: life and the album takes place the last day and

14:56 Speaker 9: half of his life. Second album is about a different

15:00 Speaker 9: character going through a different thing. Third album is going

15:04 Speaker 9: to be about different characters going through a different thing,

15:07 Speaker 9: but they're all going to be based around how people

15:12 Speaker 9: can relate to some form of mental illness. And like,

15:19 Speaker 9: more than anything, I want these songs, these albums, the

15:23 Speaker 9: script that we're writing to go along with the graphic

15:28 Speaker 9: novel that I've been working on. I want everything that

15:31 Speaker 9: we do to help people and let them know that

15:35 Speaker 9: they're not alone.

15:36 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's excellent. Yeah, we're starting to say some

15:41 Speaker 7: of the truck.

15:42 Speaker 10: Uh, well, I guess to piggyback off of that, like

15:47 Speaker 10: with the the songwriting process in particular, uh, with with

15:52 Speaker 10: like the script that he's writing. It's it's cool to

15:56 Speaker 10: like have a feeling to attach to like the music

15:59 Speaker 10: that we're writing rather than like here's this cool song.

16:01 Speaker 11: That I wrote.

16:02 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, this whole story that we're trying to tell

16:05 Speaker 10: with with you know, the script and the trying to

16:09 Speaker 10: fit the music into the it's very interesting. And uh,

16:14 Speaker 10: especially also with the shows that like I feel that

16:18 Speaker 10: like it's like after we play the show, it's like

16:22 Speaker 10: that that weight has come off, and it's like, especially

16:25 Speaker 10: with these songs, it's it's almost like therapy. Really, It's like,

16:29 Speaker 10: you know, it's you just kind of let it all out.

16:33 Speaker 7: Yeah.

16:33 Speaker 9: Yeah, That's why we call our shows. That's why we

16:36 Speaker 9: call our shows sermons rather than performances. That's why we

16:39 Speaker 9: call our fan based the congregation rather than an army,

16:43 Speaker 9: or you know something like that. It's like, you know,

16:46 Speaker 9: you come to our shows to feel something, you know,

16:51 Speaker 9: and that's not a knock on any other band that

16:54 Speaker 9: we play with. We love this scene. I can go

16:58 Speaker 9: back and forth with you all day. It's like, you know,

17:02 Speaker 9: with some of the bands that we have played with

17:05 Speaker 9: that deserve a lot more recognition than what they're getting.

17:10 Speaker 9: But you know, time after time we play a show

17:15 Speaker 9: and we're usually middle or the beginning of the lineup,

17:18 Speaker 9: and someone will always approach us and say, you guys

17:21 Speaker 9: are a breath of fresh air. No one's doing what

17:24 Speaker 9: you're doing. And I think that's kind of sad because

17:26 Speaker 9: there are bands that are doing what we're doing. You know,

17:29 Speaker 9: they're just not getting the opportunities that we're getting. And

17:34 Speaker 9: don't get me wrong, I appreciate every opportunity, of course,

17:37 Speaker 9: you know, but you know, like just off the cuff,

17:41 Speaker 9: the Big Son, we were talking about those guys on

17:44 Speaker 9: the way here, you know, a great group of kids.

17:46 Speaker 9: You know, they sound like Tool before they got rich,

17:50 Speaker 9: you know, they you know, before they lost the hunger,

17:53 Speaker 9: you know, Scarecrow Hill. Yeah, I love them. We had

17:56 Speaker 9: them on yeah, and I listened to that interview. Was

17:59 Speaker 9: the first time I had ever been name dropped.

18:02 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's cool.

18:04 Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, but uh, you know Tyler lead singer

18:07 Speaker 9: Scarecrow is now our drummer, you know he is.

18:10 Speaker 10: Yeah, he loved us a bunch, Like we we kind

18:12 Speaker 10: of built this friendship with him and he's like, I

18:16 Speaker 10: love you guys, So that's awesome.

18:17 Speaker 7: Yeah.

18:19 Speaker 10: I was kind of surprised to find out when he

18:20 Speaker 10: you know, played drums and like he like we were

18:23 Speaker 10: having issues finding drummers, and he's like, I mean I'm down.

18:26 Speaker 11: To fill in with you guys.

18:27 Speaker 10: And then we just kind of like begged him to

18:28 Speaker 10: be like yeah, yeah.

18:31 Speaker 9: Yeah, practically on our knees, like please Tyler, Oh wow yeah,

18:35 Speaker 9: oh damn, that's cool.

18:37 Speaker 1: Yeah.

18:38 Speaker 9: Uh but yeah, we've had such a connection with those

18:40 Speaker 9: guys since uh uh summer last year when we played

18:45 Speaker 9: uh Electric CA's and I think we played like twelve

18:49 Speaker 9: or thirteen shows with them since uh, I've been on

18:54 Speaker 9: stage with them my handful of times, just doing a

18:57 Speaker 9: couple of tracks here and there.

18:58 Speaker 1: Yeah.

19:00 Speaker 9: Yeah, I can't say enough about how much I love

19:04 Speaker 9: Scarecrow Hill. Yeah, Fear of the Masses, Love those guys, Anaria.

19:10 Speaker 9: You know what a voice Jessica has, you know, it's

19:15 Speaker 9: just you know, my point being is this scene is

19:19 Speaker 9: so it's filled with so much talent.

19:23 Speaker 7: Oh absolutely, absolutely.

19:24 Speaker 11: Yeah.

19:25 Speaker 9: So when when we get the opportunities that we get,

19:28 Speaker 9: we like to share as much as we possibly can.

19:31 Speaker 9: But like we're hungry, we want to we want to

19:34 Speaker 9: venture out and you know, play around this country, around

19:38 Speaker 9: this world, you know, just spread a message that it's

19:42 Speaker 9: okay to not be okay, right. But I can't you know,

19:48 Speaker 9: I can't thank Troy enough to you know, with being

19:51 Speaker 9: in this band. Everybody that has been part of the

19:54 Speaker 9: Gray Curtain over the last stuff god since twenty fourteen.

20:00 Speaker 11: Oh wow, over ten years?

20:01 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, over ten years. You know, great group of musicians.

20:09 Speaker 9: You know obviously parted ways for one reason or another. Sure,

20:13 Speaker 9: but I can't say enough good things about everyone who

20:18 Speaker 9: has taken part of this journey with me over the

20:21 Speaker 9: last eleven years.

20:23 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, just now, did you how did you

20:25 Speaker 7: guys come to work together? Oh?

20:27 Speaker 1: You want to take this?

20:28 Speaker 10: Yeah?

20:29 Speaker 7: So I.

20:31 Speaker 11: Oh my god? How far back do I go with this?

20:34 Speaker 4: Uh?

20:34 Speaker 11: Okay?

20:35 Speaker 10: So a band that was in a long time ago,

20:38 Speaker 10: Fatal Defiance. We had actually played at the Bungalow before

20:41 Speaker 10: it closed out and happy that that's actually coming back.

20:43 Speaker 10: But I'd played a couple of shows with our bass player,

20:49 Speaker 10: Sean his band in Man Okay, So we kind of

20:53 Speaker 10: got to know each other through that. And then a

20:54 Speaker 10: few years later, like we started, you know, like hey,

20:58 Speaker 10: do you want to try to get something together here

21:00 Speaker 10: and work on some stuff. And then a few months

21:02 Speaker 10: after that, he makes a post on Facebook like Hey,

21:08 Speaker 10: any of my friends that play guitar are interested in

21:10 Speaker 10: joining a band? So I was like hi me, and

21:14 Speaker 10: he's like, yeah, check out Great Curtain. We were looking

21:17 Speaker 10: for guitar players. I guess he was gonna play guitar

21:19 Speaker 10: before but wanted to play bass.

21:20 Speaker 4: Yeah.

21:21 Speaker 10: So yeah, I checked it out and it's I like

21:23 Speaker 10: fell in love with the music instantly. Yeah, It's like

21:25 Speaker 10: that there was something very special about this band that

21:28 Speaker 10: I just really wanted to be part of and really

21:30 Speaker 10: happy to be part of it.

21:32 Speaker 11: Yeah, thank you.

21:32 Speaker 7: Dennis for that, Were you there from the beginning? That's

21:36 Speaker 7: are you an original member or no?

21:37 Speaker 9: No, no?

21:38 Speaker 11: I joined God probably two years ago.

21:43 Speaker 7: Oh okay, so you're so you're relatively new then.

21:46 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm the only original member left.

21:48 Speaker 7: Okay, okay, yeah? Is it is it challenge?

21:52 Speaker 8: Has it been challenging it all over the years with

21:54 Speaker 8: you know, like you said, you know, people come and

21:56 Speaker 8: they go. I mean, has that been Has that been

21:58 Speaker 8: a challenge for you? Or is it has been relatively

22:01 Speaker 8: easy to find people who fit the project?

22:03 Speaker 9: Or honestly, in this area, it's very tough. And again,

22:08 Speaker 9: I'm an eclectic music lover, so this is like, but

22:15 Speaker 9: this scene is mostly metal and at least what I've seen,

22:23 Speaker 9: and our friends in the metal community like to make

22:27 Speaker 9: it very known to us we are not a metal band, right,

22:31 Speaker 9: It's like that.

22:32 Speaker 1: I know, I know we're not.

22:34 Speaker 9: But so it's it's difficult when it's like, Okay, I

22:39 Speaker 9: need my eclectic musician friends to come and do this

22:44 Speaker 9: project with me that already has two albums worth of music,

22:49 Speaker 9: and some some musicians, you know, they don't want to

22:53 Speaker 9: do the whole theme album, right, the whole concept album thing.

22:58 Speaker 1: So they bow out as well.

23:00 Speaker 9: Some musicians like Tyler are in multiple bands, you know,

23:07 Speaker 9: so it's a it's tough, and especially after someone leaves.

23:11 Speaker 9: Like so I started this band with Jim Miller and

23:18 Speaker 9: when like when I got the opportunity to play at

23:20 Speaker 9: Foxwood's it was our first show. He was the first

23:25 Speaker 9: person I called. I became very close with him over

23:30 Speaker 9: the past like the next almost decade, and it it really,

23:38 Speaker 9: it really broke my heart when he, his brother, and

23:41 Speaker 9: our drummer at the time, Sean Different Sean all left

23:47 Speaker 9: because wait, they all left it once.

23:49 Speaker 1: They all left it once. Oh my god. Yeah.

23:51 Speaker 9: So it took me a while, not just to find people,

23:55 Speaker 9: but you know, I I basically sat around writing, doing

24:01 Speaker 9: the comic, doing the stories, and really contemplating if I

24:08 Speaker 9: was even going to continue with this. Yeah, and I'm

24:12 Speaker 9: not gonna lie, you know, certain mental illnesses started creeping

24:17 Speaker 9: in and I was having a pretty difficult time at

24:23 Speaker 9: the time because it wasn't exactly one of those kind

24:30 Speaker 9: of separations where it was mutual. Oh okay, I would

24:35 Speaker 9: have gladly gone another ten twenty years with those guys. Yeah, yeah,

24:41 Speaker 9: but yeah, I just decided that if I couldn't do

24:51 Speaker 9: the Gray Curtain. I wasn't going to do anything at all,

24:54 Speaker 9: because for me, it's a lot more than just playing music.

24:56 Speaker 9: It's the message. It's trying, like like I mentioned before,

25:00 Speaker 9: trying to help people. And I luckily found well, it

25:06 Speaker 9: didn't fine. I was handed in so many words, Joe

25:11 Speaker 9: Saferano for a drummer. Joe plays for the Nagans, Ragged

25:17 Speaker 9: the Stitches, he's I think he's in twenty two bands.

25:24 Speaker 9: I'm over exaggerating, but not by.

25:27 Speaker 1: Much, not by much. No great guy.

25:31 Speaker 9: And through Joe, I was able to get a hold

25:34 Speaker 9: of Sean, who much like Troy, I knew from when

25:38 Speaker 9: he was in Inman, when he was fronting Inman, and

25:42 Speaker 9: I was able to get him on board. Through Sean,

25:45 Speaker 9: I was able to get Troy. Joe left because as

25:49 Speaker 9: I mentioned, he's in one hundred and twenty seven band.

25:52 Speaker 9: And so we we struggled for a little while getting

25:56 Speaker 9: a permanent drummer, but Tyler kept filling in and finally Tyler,

26:01 Speaker 9: you know, gave into our begging and now we have Tyler. Yeah,

26:05 Speaker 9: we are currently searching for a synth keyboard player. Okay,

26:11 Speaker 9: and uh, I don't I'm I'm open to all instruments

26:15 Speaker 9: to play in this band. Yeah, but to to rope

26:20 Speaker 9: back into your original question, it gets difficult, It gets

26:24 Speaker 9: it gets trying, it gets uh mortifying. It sometimes where

26:30 Speaker 9: you're you're just messaging people that you know over and

26:33 Speaker 9: over again. It's like, hey, you know, what do you think?

26:35 Speaker 1: What do you think?

26:36 Speaker 9: And they're like, I don't know, man, you know, music's

26:39 Speaker 9: not really my thing. I don't know, man. You know,

26:43 Speaker 9: I got this other band that I'm working for. I

26:45 Speaker 9: don't know, man, you know, I'm you know, I kind

26:48 Speaker 9: of just look at it like like a hobby. That's

26:52 Speaker 9: the worst thing.

26:53 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, yeah, that response, that's the funny.

26:56 Speaker 10: There was the one guy that was like, you know,

26:58 Speaker 10: he was all on board, all about it, and then

27:00 Speaker 10: like what was it, like a day or two before

27:02 Speaker 10: we bring him in. It's like he actually listened to

27:05 Speaker 10: the songs and he's like, oh, I had actually not

27:07 Speaker 10: that into the music.

27:10 Speaker 4: Wow.

27:12 Speaker 9: He said he was a big fan and everything I

27:14 Speaker 9: was come on down. And then like two days before

27:16 Speaker 9: his try out, he's like, oh, actually, uh after listening

27:19 Speaker 9: to the music, it's a little too sad for me.

27:23 Speaker 4: Wow.

27:23 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's the point.

27:29 Speaker 4: Oh wow.

27:30 Speaker 9: Yeah, So it gets difficult because we are we are

27:35 Speaker 9: kind of like right in the middle there where where

27:38 Speaker 9: this group's cup of tea by like a mile, and

27:42 Speaker 9: then we're not this group's cup of tea by by

27:46 Speaker 9: a mile. Right, So it gets it gets difficult, very

27:50 Speaker 9: very difficult sometimes.

27:51 Speaker 8: Especially with drummers, right, because that's that's been a running

27:54 Speaker 8: theme on the show over the years, like every drummers

27:56 Speaker 8: in multiple bands because there's so few drummers.

27:58 Speaker 1: So few, so few.

28:00 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I I I have nothing but love for

28:04 Speaker 9: the bands that have a drummer that only drums for them.

28:08 Speaker 9: I wish I had their magic. Just make a drummer

28:11 Speaker 9: up here like that, like like Scarecrow's drummer, Brendan.

28:17 Speaker 1: I don't.

28:18 Speaker 9: I cannot stress enough how amazing Brendan is. It's like

28:24 Speaker 9: before Tyler said that he would play with us, I

28:27 Speaker 9: was just like what I And it's the same thing

28:34 Speaker 9: with the drummer for the Big son Nicks. Just unreal,

28:39 Speaker 9: unreal talent. So like there have been a couple of

28:42 Speaker 9: times where I've been like, hey, let me let me

28:44 Speaker 9: talk to you. You know, serious are you with this band?

28:52 Speaker 9: But I wouldn't have actually done that right, right, But uh,

28:56 Speaker 9: you know, I have like approached a couple of drummers

28:59 Speaker 9: just to be like, hey, do you have the time

29:01 Speaker 9: to maybe put another project in, But the answers usually

29:05 Speaker 9: nose these like the drummers that I mentioned, Brennan and Nick,

29:10 Speaker 9: like they are so passionate about this one project that

29:13 Speaker 9: they're in, and rightfully so. Scarecrow's amazing, big Son's amazing. Yeah,

29:18 Speaker 9: but yeah, they would never be like, yeah, I gotta

29:22 Speaker 9: split my time between you guys who are doing like

29:25 Speaker 9: all of this stuff has nothing to do with music, right,

29:30 Speaker 9: you know, It's like we were a multimedia type of

29:35 Speaker 9: project where you know a lot of bands are just

29:38 Speaker 9: strictly about the music, strictly about enforcing what their message is.

29:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like, I completely.

29:47 Speaker 9: Understand their their point of view where it's like you

29:49 Speaker 9: don't want to overload yourself. But like you said, the

29:53 Speaker 9: scene is just deprived of it's a it's a desert

29:59 Speaker 9: trying to find a drummer that isn't in twelve bands.

30:02 Speaker 1: Shout up to Joe.

30:06 Speaker 7: If you're just joining us, we're talking.

30:07 Speaker 8: With We have Dennis and Troy here from the band

30:10 Speaker 8: The Gray Curtain, and uh, so have you guys not

30:13 Speaker 8: been so with the current situation. So you're looking for

30:16 Speaker 8: for a synth player. So are you guys not playing

30:18 Speaker 8: shows currently or are you oh, no shows? So what

30:21 Speaker 8: are you just doing it without the keyboard?

30:24 Speaker 7: Yeah?

30:24 Speaker 9: Yeah, we we have a show at Ralph's Rock Diner

30:28 Speaker 9: and Worcester on the tenth we have nice We have

30:32 Speaker 9: a show at Terminus on the eleventh.

30:34 Speaker 7: Oh excellent with all of our friends.

30:38 Speaker 9: That show a Terminus on the eleventh is just family,

30:41 Speaker 9: It's Scarecrow Hill, it's Devil inside Us, it's Fear of

30:45 Speaker 9: the Masses and it's us.

30:46 Speaker 7: Yeah.

30:47 Speaker 1: That show is just going to be fun. Yeah.

30:49 Speaker 9: And then the twenty fifth we're playing at the Spectacular

30:55 Speaker 9: with Scarecrow Bands and Double Side, Joe Solaperano a gay.

31:01 Speaker 9: I didn't know they run though, Oh the Nigans and

31:03 Speaker 9: Rag the Stitches. Joe's playing double duty on that shus.

31:05 Speaker 7: Oh excellent, excellent.

31:07 Speaker 9: Yeah, uh but yeah we're uh, we're still playing because

31:10 Speaker 9: you know, you got to get the message out there.

31:12 Speaker 9: You gotta keep uh keep you fresh in people's minds. Yeah,

31:17 Speaker 9: or else you got forgotten. I mean bottom line, well I.

31:21 Speaker 7: Would imagine too, I mean it must be.

31:22 Speaker 8: It must be kind of interesting, right if you're if

31:25 Speaker 8: you're playing, you know, because you've had to play with

31:28 Speaker 8: these different configurations over the years. So if you have

31:33 Speaker 8: if you have something that you know, maybe you want

31:34 Speaker 8: a synth player, but you don't have a synth player,

31:37 Speaker 8: so you.

31:37 Speaker 7: Got to do without.

31:38 Speaker 8: But that must be kind of that must be kind

31:40 Speaker 8: of fun thoughing away, right, because isn't it doesn't it

31:42 Speaker 8: make it a kind of more of a challenge, It's like,

31:44 Speaker 8: and it kind of it makes it gives the songs

31:47 Speaker 8: a little bit of a different different flavor, a different texture.

31:50 Speaker 11: Right, definitely.

31:50 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's like the the you know, having the limitations

31:53 Speaker 10: kind of opens up the creativity kind of like you

31:56 Speaker 10: can find like a cool effect on your pedal, Yeah,

31:58 Speaker 10: to kind of fill in that space.

32:00 Speaker 8: And yeah, yeah, I was in a band years ago,

32:03 Speaker 8: long time ago. I was in a band called First

32:04 Speaker 8: Shove and First Shove, you know, hardcore metal. We'd always

32:08 Speaker 8: been a five piece and because we had two guitar

32:11 Speaker 8: players and we had a guitar player leave and just

32:16 Speaker 8: Rich Burke who was kind of he was the only

32:18 Speaker 8: original member of the band at that point, so he

32:19 Speaker 8: was kind of the de facto leader. So we all

32:21 Speaker 8: kind of looked at him and he said, you know what,

32:22 Speaker 8: I don't think we need to replace Dave. Let's just

32:24 Speaker 8: be a four piece. So we just tried it and

32:26 Speaker 8: first Shove had never been a four piece, and it

32:29 Speaker 8: was kind of fun. Actually, yeah, you know, I mean

32:31 Speaker 8: it kind of changed the songs a little bit because

32:32 Speaker 8: he didn't have the two guitars, right, Yeah, but this

32:35 Speaker 8: sounded a little stripped down.

32:37 Speaker 7: I don't know, we all kind of liked it. We

32:38 Speaker 7: played it show and it was like, oh, this is okay,

32:39 Speaker 7: we can do it this way for a while.

32:41 Speaker 10: Yeah, there's particularly a few songs, especially like we kind

32:44 Speaker 10: of take the keyboard out of it. It definitely, like

32:46 Speaker 10: you said, strips it down and kind of gives it

32:48 Speaker 10: more of like a raw kind of feeling, and it

32:51 Speaker 10: brings it to a whole other place.

32:53 Speaker 7: Yeah.

32:53 Speaker 9: Yeah, there are a few songs actually that Troy and

32:57 Speaker 9: Sean have kind of modified so that part of what

33:01 Speaker 9: the synth player would be playing is part of what

33:04 Speaker 9: they're doing.

33:05 Speaker 7: There you go.

33:06 Speaker 9: But it's, uh, it's definitely a lot of fun now

33:11 Speaker 9: that it's like, you know, they're learning the old material,

33:14 Speaker 9: but we're also moving towards writing new material, you know,

33:18 Speaker 9: recording new material. It's uh, it's honestly, I I can't.

33:23 Speaker 9: I know, I'm gonna sound redundant here. I cannot thank

33:27 Speaker 9: the people that are involved in keeping this thing going enough,

33:31 Speaker 9: like even right down to like Eleanor from Terminus, you

33:34 Speaker 9: know who hooked us up with you guys a year ago.

33:38 Speaker 9: You know, like people that just it's like, you know,

33:42 Speaker 9: these guys need or you know, dare I say, deserve

33:45 Speaker 9: an opportunity.

33:46 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, check these guys out.

33:50 Speaker 9: I cannot stress enough, Like how thankful I am for him,

33:53 Speaker 9: for Sean, for everybody, everybody down the tone pole, John

33:57 Speaker 9: fully for giving us a place to play. Yeah, my

34:02 Speaker 9: script writing partner, April, you know, right down to my kid, yeah,

34:07 Speaker 9: you know, my kid killing you know, all these people

34:10 Speaker 9: just keeping me going, keeping me afloat, keeping me above

34:13 Speaker 9: ground as it.

34:14 Speaker 7: Were there you go.

34:15 Speaker 8: Yeah, so yeah, so your script writing. So tell us

34:20 Speaker 8: more about that. Is that the graphic novel you're talking

34:22 Speaker 8: about or.

34:23 Speaker 1: No, they're two separate things.

34:24 Speaker 9: The graphic novel is going to be a comic book

34:27 Speaker 9: based on the the Town of Apathy, which is the

34:31 Speaker 9: storyline that the albums are based on. But the script

34:36 Speaker 9: is basically almost like an episodic thing where I mean

34:43 Speaker 9: pipe dreams. You know, it becomes a show all about

34:46 Speaker 9: the town of Apathy, and you know, will include not

34:51 Speaker 9: just our music, but we want to include like other

34:54 Speaker 9: musicians from this area, like some of the bands that

34:56 Speaker 9: we mentioned.

34:57 Speaker 12: Uh.

34:58 Speaker 9: But yeah, the script is basically, if if my wildest

35:05 Speaker 9: dreams come true, it'll be a TV show.

35:07 Speaker 8: Okay, okay, excellent, outstanding. Why don't we let's play a

35:14 Speaker 8: let's play a track. I wanted to sneak this in.

35:16 Speaker 8: This is my okay, so selfishly, this is my personal

35:20 Speaker 8: favorite of all the great and I've listened to everything.

35:22 Speaker 8: I've listened everything that's available online. This is my personal favorite.

35:25 Speaker 8: Burn that bridge. What can you what can you tell

35:28 Speaker 8: us about this?

35:28 Speaker 7: Well?

35:29 Speaker 1: Actually, uh, this song was written by.

35:35 Speaker 9: The Miller Brothers and Sean Donnellan long before they met me.

35:40 Speaker 7: I wrote the lyrics.

35:41 Speaker 1: I wrote the lyrics, yeah, but the.

35:47 Speaker 9: They basically had like the whole foundation and when they

35:50 Speaker 9: told me what the title was, I was like, well,

35:52 Speaker 9: this is going to be perfect for the Florist yeah album. Yeah,

35:56 Speaker 9: and uh, you know, we just took it from there.

35:59 Speaker 8: All right, all right, let's give this a spin. This

36:01 Speaker 8: is this is such a great song. So it's called

36:04 Speaker 8: burn that Bridge. It's from the album The Florist and

36:06 Speaker 8: this is the Gray Curtains.

36:25 Speaker 2: I condone.

36:29 Speaker 3: Stop me romy blinking about it pregnantly, I could never please.

36:36 Speaker 4: It's the ways what you do in the end, Oh

36:44 Speaker 4: my red, I wanna read.

37:01 Speaker 5: What makes.

37:15 Speaker 4: The rock?

37:16 Speaker 5: The trap slaves a feeling a lot, God sat up

37:25 Speaker 5: a bolder, the.

37:27 Speaker 4: Want Way, the raying from We Got Me.

37:35 Speaker 5: Say, I Got Ramy for fifty I.

37:43 Speaker 4: Don't want to.

39:48 Speaker 7: Love it?

39:48 Speaker 8: That has Burned that Bridge. The band is the Gray Curtain,

39:51 Speaker 8: and we have Dennis and Troy here with us live

39:54 Speaker 8: in studio, and uh yeah, that's that's my favorite Gray

39:58 Speaker 8: Curtain track. So what's but we should talk out? So

40:00 Speaker 8: I don't know how much you want to say about

40:02 Speaker 8: the future, what the next project is as far as music,

40:05 Speaker 8: but you want to you want to talk about that

40:08 Speaker 8: well as it goes.

40:09 Speaker 10: Right now, we got two songs that we're going to

40:13 Speaker 10: be tracking out for as singles, and we do we

40:17 Speaker 10: want to.

40:18 Speaker 11: I think we've talked about it before.

40:19 Speaker 10: If we just kind of want to do it kind

40:21 Speaker 10: of a double album kind of thing. We've got seven

40:23 Speaker 10: songs for each one so far, and we kind of

40:25 Speaker 10: want to push a few more on each one, but

40:27 Speaker 10: it's we we we got some ambitious things coming.

40:31 Speaker 9: Yeah, and again, what I absolutely love is anyone that's

40:37 Speaker 9: in this band always seems to have like this jolt

40:40 Speaker 9: of energy to you know, do these stories with me.

40:43 Speaker 9: This next story is going to be about two assassins, essentially,

40:51 Speaker 9: and each story kind of interweaves as they're given.

40:55 Speaker 12: Uh.

40:55 Speaker 9: The main antagonist of the town of Apathy is this

40:58 Speaker 9: demi god vengeful spirit from purgatory named shol and he's

41:06 Speaker 9: very bored in this town because he's all powerful and

41:09 Speaker 9: everybody else is weak underneath him. So he starts playing

41:13 Speaker 9: these little games with his pets, and he hands one

41:17 Speaker 9: ten a name of excuse me, a list of ten names,

41:20 Speaker 9: and he gave another a list of ten names and says,

41:25 Speaker 9: the first to kill every person on your list of

41:30 Speaker 9: ten gets to leave this town. No strings attached the albums.

41:36 Speaker 9: I was hoping to do one for one killer and

41:41 Speaker 9: one for the other killer. And there was like a

41:46 Speaker 9: good couple of months there where I was afraid to

41:49 Speaker 9: say anything without it because I was like, I don't know,

41:52 Speaker 9: these guys are new. I'm gonna come at them with

41:54 Speaker 9: this double album idea and they're gonna be like, yeah,

41:57 Speaker 9: I'm all about it. Yeah, as soon as I told

41:59 Speaker 9: it's like sweets is good, good, yeah, outstanding? Any kind

42:05 Speaker 9: of an ETA off air you said twenty thirty Yeah, yeah,

42:09 Speaker 9: twenty thirty three, twenty forty Yeah, I should right around

42:13 Speaker 9: the time I get an AARP card. But you know,

42:18 Speaker 9: I'm I don't know, I'm I'm always pushing for the

42:22 Speaker 9: next thing, which is another reason why I use the

42:24 Speaker 9: word tolerate. You know, people tolerate me for an extended

42:28 Speaker 9: amount of time. Uh, you know, because I'm always like, hey,

42:32 Speaker 9: you know, we got to keep going, we got to

42:33 Speaker 9: keep pushing forward. We got to you know, where are

42:35 Speaker 9: you at with this? You know, where are you at

42:37 Speaker 9: with that? I you know, I need to work on this.

42:39 Speaker 9: So I'm gonna, you know, work on this until you know,

42:41 Speaker 9: Saturday when we all get together and I'm going to

42:43 Speaker 9: have like all this ready for you guys, so be ready.

42:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a handful. Yeah yeah, So that's what.

42:50 Speaker 9: It takes, so right, it is, but it gets it

42:53 Speaker 9: gets tiring for people that are not on that level.

42:56 Speaker 1: We just want to have fun with it. Yeah, yeah,

42:58 Speaker 1: you know, and I get that.

43:01 Speaker 9: So what I'm hoping for is a twenty early twenty

43:07 Speaker 9: twenty seven release, but you know, if if I can

43:13 Speaker 9: twenty twenty six, but I think that's pushing it.

43:16 Speaker 10: Yeah, I definitely want to like have all the songs,

43:19 Speaker 10: you know, written it together by the end of twenty

43:21 Speaker 10: twenty six.

43:21 Speaker 11: But yeah, yeah, I think I think that's pretty achievable.

43:24 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right, you know, have all

43:27 Speaker 9: the songs ready by the end of twenty twenty six

43:30 Speaker 9: and then record and get everything out, hopefully have the

43:33 Speaker 9: graphic novel to go along with it. I've I've said

43:37 Speaker 9: that for the last two albums, and none of them

43:40 Speaker 9: have come out yet because it's just me. Yeah, yeah,

43:42 Speaker 9: you know, I would love to have a team of

43:44 Speaker 9: artists helping me out with this. Even with the script

43:47 Speaker 9: I didn't have, like I had like a couple of

43:51 Speaker 9: pages here, a couple of pages there. But my brain

43:53 Speaker 9: is my worst enemy, as we've talked about, so a

43:57 Speaker 9: lot of times I would get like a couple of

43:59 Speaker 9: pages in and just shut down. All it took was

44:03 Speaker 9: one person to be like, all right, tell me the

44:06 Speaker 9: story campfire style go and we're nearing a thousand.

44:11 Speaker 7: Pages, no kidding, Wow, okay, excellent.

44:13 Speaker 9: I'm hoping to do that with the graphic novel and

44:16 Speaker 9: you know, the next album, the next I mean, there's

44:19 Speaker 9: twenty chapters to this Town of Town of Apathy storyline.

44:23 Speaker 9: So I'm hoping, yeah, before I before the cancer takes

44:26 Speaker 9: over and I can't do this anymore, I'm hoping to.

44:29 Speaker 1: Get it all out.

44:29 Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, yeah, so, and I guess that's another reason

44:32 Speaker 9: why I push so hard, you know, for like the timeline.

44:35 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense, that makes sense. Well,

44:38 Speaker 8: speaking of time, the time does go quickly. So before

44:42 Speaker 8: we are going to play, we're gonna play one more song,

44:44 Speaker 8: going to finish out the segment. But I want to

44:46 Speaker 8: make sure remind us when the next show is or

44:49 Speaker 8: the next couple of shows. And also where is the

44:52 Speaker 8: best place for people to go online to keep up

44:54 Speaker 8: with everything that the Great Curtain is doing? Yeah?

44:56 Speaker 10: Yeah, we got a Ralph's Rock Diner and Worcester on

44:59 Speaker 10: the and then Terminus on the eleventh, excellent, excellent, Codo

45:05 Speaker 10: Lowell on the twenty fifth.

45:06 Speaker 9: Okay yeah, and then yeah, selfish plug I have an

45:11 Speaker 9: art show at Terminus on the seventeenth. Yeah, oh yeah,

45:15 Speaker 9: Eleanor is allowing me to, for the first time ever,

45:18 Speaker 9: put my art up for display.

45:22 Speaker 7: Oh congratulations.

45:23 Speaker 9: And it's gonna be another reason why I love this

45:26 Speaker 9: show at Terminus, you know, along with playing with Scarecrow

45:30 Speaker 9: and even that show at Ralse, we're playing with mary

45:33 Speaker 9: An Toilette and the Runs. Yeah I love them, Zombie

45:36 Speaker 9: you know. But but yeah, we're going to be playing

45:39 Speaker 9: with Scarecrow Hill and Fear of the Masses and and

45:44 Speaker 9: Excuse Me and Devil inside Us and my art is

45:47 Speaker 9: going to be down the hall hanging on the wall.

45:49 Speaker 7: Fantastic.

45:51 Speaker 9: So yeah, the seventeenth will be a uh, just a

45:54 Speaker 9: strict art show.

45:55 Speaker 11: And but you have the art hanging up all month long.

45:58 Speaker 7: Yeap.

45:59 Speaker 1: The art will be hanging up all month long.

46:00 Speaker 7: Outstanding.

46:01 Speaker 9: Yeah, thirty one pieces. But the best way to uh

46:05 Speaker 9: listen to us. We have a Spotify page, Apple Music,

46:09 Speaker 9: band Camp. We're we're on all streaming platforms Okay except Amazon,

46:14 Speaker 9: I noticed that we're not on it, but yeah, every

46:17 Speaker 9: other streaming platform we're on it.

46:18 Speaker 8: Yeah.

46:19 Speaker 7: Yeah, we should tell people how to spelled gray because.

46:21 Speaker 9: Spell Yes, we talked about this at the Goat before

46:25 Speaker 9: we came in here.

46:26 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's g r e y. It's the old English spelling.

46:30 Speaker 9: A lot of people will spell it with an A,

46:31 Speaker 9: and you know, the search comes up with just a

46:34 Speaker 9: bunch of physical gray curtains.

46:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Fred you guys anywhere.

46:37 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

46:38 Speaker 8: That's one of the few words in the English language

46:40 Speaker 8: you can spell it either way and it's considered correct

46:42 Speaker 8: in American English.

46:43 Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, very good, guys, Thank you so much.

46:45 Speaker 8: And we're going to close out the segment with So

46:48 Speaker 8: we're gonna call this p Drunk outside of bars leaving voicemails.

46:52 Speaker 8: That's not the act, not quite the actual title.

46:54 Speaker 1: I can't apologize enough for that.

46:55 Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, no, nothing to apologize for. But

46:58 Speaker 8: people can figure out what the p where it actually is.

47:00 Speaker 8: But it's anything we should know about this before we hear.

47:03 Speaker 9: It or basically, in real life, I lost the love

47:09 Speaker 9: of my life because I was a very difficult person,

47:12 Speaker 9: uh suffering from addiction. And in the story and in

47:16 Speaker 9: real life, this is about a particular incident where I

47:21 Speaker 9: was outside of one of my favorite bars, leaving voicemails

47:24 Speaker 9: in a particularly inebriated state.

47:27 Speaker 8: Okay, okay, So we're going to close out with this

47:30 Speaker 8: and if you are listening live on Saturday, coming up

47:33 Speaker 8: in the next hour, we've got Ryan Redwood. He's going

47:36 Speaker 8: to be joining us via WhatsApp from the UK talking

47:38 Speaker 8: about his new single. And then in the final segment

47:42 Speaker 8: of the show, we have the Fods I think I

47:44 Speaker 8: think they're from New York, but they're going to be

47:46 Speaker 8: joining us online as well. So we do have a

47:48 Speaker 8: lot left to go, but we're going to close out

47:50 Speaker 8: this hour with this p drunk outside of bars, leaving

47:54 Speaker 8: voicemails from the Gray Curtain and Dennison Troy thank you

47:57 Speaker 8: again so much.

47:58 Speaker 11: Thank you for having us.

47:59 Speaker 7: Thank you Jen Absolute.

48:00 Speaker 12: It like.

48:27 Speaker 13: The moments are virtue and it's all gone now you sick,

48:34 Speaker 13: good bye.

48:39 Speaker 12: The fall mines are hurt you. The moment that I

48:44 Speaker 12: love my mom, You're.

48:51 Speaker 4: Like said man, I'm a summer man. We clash one

48:59 Speaker 4: more together in this support.

49:07 Speaker 12: Just stand.

49:09 Speaker 4: He fails for every temper world, needle call, need the

49:21 Speaker 4: bot on.

49:24 Speaker 12: The tried, the pond of you, all of my the

49:57 Speaker 12: least chance, Redemptionhot which he's a bull, and one.

50:02 Speaker 4: Time will make.

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50:24 Speaker 4: The sound.

50:27 Speaker 6: Weekly to.

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50:54 Speaker 12: Me tr.

50:57 Speaker 4: Neidhood on me down the call Oman, the track the

51:12 Speaker 4: pod of ne owd.

51:15 Speaker 5: But we clash. When to get.

52:15 Speaker 4: Still? Monta call me down the bottle and met.

52:39 Speaker 12: Me.

52:41 Speaker 4: Call me to the bottle and a trick.

52:53 Speaker 5: Call me to.

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53:00 Speaker 5: A matrix, the pawn of you, Old of Pine bo