The Grey Curtain (Dennis and Troy) | Matt Connarton Unleashed

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Speaker 8: That is it's pretty intense. That's short term solution. The band is the Gray Curtain, and we've got Dennis and Troy. We're gonna speak with them in just a moment. Welcome everybody, if you are listening live on Saturday, we have entered our number two New Marrow dose of Matt Connorton Unleashed, and we are live from the studios of WMNH ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Today is Saturday October four, twenty twenty five. Jenny is here, of course at the news table, present and accounted for, and let's talk with these guys.

Speaker 8: Dennis, you've been on the show before, of course, you've been on a couple of times now, right.

Speaker 9: I've been on the show with you guys twice, one in person, one over the phone.

Speaker 8: Oh that's right, that's right, yes, And Troy, this is your first time, you're right.

Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, thanks for having me. It's great to be here. This is actually the first time on the radio.

Speaker 7: It's oh no kidding, yeah, yeah, really cool to you know, be here.

Speaker 11: And oh well a lot of film experience. Thank you.

Speaker 7: What do you do in the band?

Speaker 11: I play guitar?

Speaker 8: Okay, okay, excellent, excellent. So the song we just heard, short term Solution, is that new? Is that a new single or no?

Speaker 9: No? Short term is part of the first album, Shadow of a Man. Okay, came out around fourteen fifteen sixteen, and yeah, it's it's one of the older tracks.

Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, Now what is the meaning of that song? Because obviously, I mean there must be a reason that you chose that for today. That was one of the one of the ones you sent us.

Speaker 1: Well, we talked a bit off air about this, but.

Speaker 9: During twenty twelve, I was going at twenty eleven twenty twelve, I was going through like award spiral where I was kind of alienating everybody around me and going through a very dark period of time my life and basically drinking myself into an early grave. The entire album Shadow of a Man is based on that time, where I would get up in the morning, drunk, start drinking, go over to the bar, spend most of my money at one bar until they told me to leave, go to the next bar in my hometown, drink until they told me to leave, go home, pass out, wake up, do it all over again.

Speaker 2: And I.

Speaker 9: Remember a quote at a show at a benefit that we were playing that suicide is a uh was a permanent solution to a short term problem. And uh, that's kind of what kind of jolted that song into into existence, because drinking was always my short term solution to getting through the day, because the moment I would sober up, I'd have to face reality and I didn't want.

Speaker 7: To do that right But.

Speaker 9: Luckily this album this project as has helped me in a lot of ways get through a lot of my demons. I still suffer a lot of days, and unfortunately people around me thankfully have a lot of tolerance for that.

Speaker 7: Yeah.

Speaker 9: I I guess that's the word. I'm tolerated by h by a lot of people in my life.

Speaker 8: I was gonna say, you're obviously, you know, valued and loved, you know, I mean, you know, it's it's it's not it's not tolerating you. It's you know, obviously these people care for you a great deal.

Speaker 10: And it's it's definitely like that album in particular, it's like it gives a voice to, like, you know, all these problems that a lot of people have in their lives, and it's that that the throes of addiction and and just getting through it like that.

Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely do Do people come up to you at shows or contact you online who've who've listened to this music and and kind of reach out and say, hey, I I can relate.

Speaker 7: To this, or this has helped me in some.

Speaker 1: Way or yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9: I when it first came out, it not so much. I don't know what happened. Maybe the uh, maybe the environment has changed over the last few years, where like talking about mental health has become okay.

Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think it's much less stigmatized.

Speaker 10: A yeah, definitely, I feel like has had and even more so like post like pandemic, that's like everybody's coming out of their houses and it's like, you know what's going on with you and you just kind of spill your whole life out to you to your your friends that you haven't seen in a while.

Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I remember. I won't say names obviously, but there was a young woman. We played out in uh In, Maine at a place called Charlie's Hill.

Speaker 8: That venue, the name of that venue comes up a lot on the show. Apparently it's pretty cool. Oh really, it's great. We played there once. We can't wait to go back. They treat local bands like their nationals over there. Yeah, and I remember this one woman came up to me. Couldn't have been twenty one yet. And when I'm on stage, I like to let people in the crowd, whether they whether they need it or not.

Speaker 1: I just want them to know that.

Speaker 9: If they feel isolated, if they feel alone, you know, come to me, you know, because I know what that feeling. Feels like I know what it feels like to isolate yourself, whether it's on purpose or because you know, you just don't have anyone to talk to. And I've I had the chance to talk to her, and she told me how she was having suicidal ideations and she couldn't escape it no matter how hard she tried. And we talked for a good three hours. And when I just I just remember her face when she approached me, mascara coming down her face.

Speaker 9: And after she walked away, I noticed there's were you still there, Troy?

Speaker 11: I might have left you.

Speaker 9: There was a line of like probably five six nine people wanting to like talk. Three o'clock in the morning, I'm still out in Maine talking to people. Friend John who came with me, John Foley to John, Yeah, he came with me, and I think it was like eight o'clock in the morning. We finally got back to the Wister area where we're from, and I, I don't know what, I don't know, I don't know how to explain it. But I felt so much lighter, you know, And I felt like I had actually done some good, not just for myself, not just to spread message of self awareness and and making it okay to talk about these things.

Speaker 9: But I have always in my heart, I just I always want to help people. I always want to let people know that it's okay to not be okay. As cliche as that's saying has become, it's it's true. And it's the reason why it's become cliche is because you know it's important to have that in your head. And that's really where our music stems from. I talked to you about this the last time I was here. All of our music is based around a town called the Town of Apathy, and I created that after reading or it's not even reading, listening to a quote from Henry Miller said the best way to get over a woman is to turn her into literature.

Speaker 9: So I created this town with all of my hurts, habits, hang ups, all of my bullies, every bad memory I've ever had, and created characters and put them in a town that they can't escape. The first album, it's a fictional character by the name of Nathan Knopf loses the love of his life and the album takes place the last day and half of his life. Second album is about a different character going through a different thing. Third album is going to be about different characters going through a different thing, but they're all going to be based around how people can relate to some form of mental illness.

Speaker 9: And like, more than anything, I want these songs, these albums, the script that we're writing to go along with the graphic novel that I've been working on. I want everything that we do to help people and let them know that they're not alone.

Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's excellent. Yeah, we're starting to say some of the truck.

Speaker 10: Uh, well, I guess to piggyback off of that, like with the the songwriting process in particular, uh, with with like the script that he's writing. It's it's cool to like have a feeling to attach to like the music that we're writing rather than like here's this cool song.

Speaker 11: That I wrote.

Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, this whole story that we're trying to tell with with you know, the script and the trying to fit the music into the it's very interesting. And uh, especially also with the shows that like I feel that like it's like after we play the show, it's like that that weight has come off, and it's like, especially with these songs, it's it's almost like therapy. Really, It's like, you know, it's you just kind of let it all out.

Speaker 7: Yeah.

Speaker 9: Yeah, That's why we call our shows. That's why we call our shows sermons rather than performances. That's why we call our fan based the congregation rather than an army, or you know something like that. It's like, you know, you come to our shows to feel something, you know, and that's not a knock on any other band that we play with. We love this scene. I can go back and forth with you all day. It's like, you know, with some of the bands that we have played with that deserve a lot more recognition than what they're getting.

Speaker 9: But you know, time after time we play a show and we're usually middle or the beginning of the lineup, and someone will always approach us and say, you guys are a breath of fresh air. No one's doing what you're doing. And I think that's kind of sad because there are bands that are doing what we're doing. You know, they're just not getting the opportunities that we're getting. And don't get me wrong, I appreciate every opportunity, of course, you know, but you know, like just off the cuff, the Big Son, we were talking about those guys on the way here, you know, a great group of kids.

Speaker 9: You know, they sound like Tool before they got rich, you know, they you know, before they lost the hunger, you know, Scarecrow Hill. Yeah, I love them. We had them on yeah, and I listened to that interview. Was the first time I had ever been name dropped.

Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's cool.

Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, but uh, you know Tyler lead singer Scarecrow is now our drummer, you know he is.

Speaker 10: Yeah, he loved us a bunch, Like we we kind of built this friendship with him and he's like, I love you guys, So that's awesome.

Speaker 7: Yeah.

Speaker 10: I was kind of surprised to find out when he you know, played drums and like he like we were having issues finding drummers, and he's like, I mean I'm down.

Speaker 11: To fill in with you guys.

Speaker 10: And then we just kind of like begged him to be like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9: Yeah, practically on our knees, like please Tyler, Oh wow yeah, oh damn, that's cool.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 9: Uh but yeah, we've had such a connection with those guys since uh uh summer last year when we played uh Electric CA's and I think we played like twelve or thirteen shows with them since uh, I've been on stage with them my handful of times, just doing a couple of tracks here and there.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 9: Yeah, I can't say enough about how much I love Scarecrow Hill. Yeah, Fear of the Masses, Love those guys, Anaria. You know what a voice Jessica has, you know, it's just you know, my point being is this scene is so it's filled with so much talent.

Speaker 7: Oh absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 11: Yeah.

Speaker 9: So when when we get the opportunities that we get, we like to share as much as we possibly can. But like we're hungry, we want to we want to venture out and you know, play around this country, around this world, you know, just spread a message that it's okay to not be okay, right. But I can't you know, I can't thank Troy enough to you know, with being in this band. Everybody that has been part of the Gray Curtain over the last stuff god since twenty fourteen.

Speaker 11: Oh wow, over ten years?

Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, over ten years. You know, great group of musicians. You know obviously parted ways for one reason or another. Sure, but I can't say enough good things about everyone who has taken part of this journey with me over the last eleven years.

Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, just now, did you how did you guys come to work together? Oh?

Speaker 1: You want to take this?

Speaker 10: Yeah?

Speaker 7: So I.

Speaker 11: Oh my god? How far back do I go with this?

Speaker 4: Uh?

Speaker 11: Okay?

Speaker 10: So a band that was in a long time ago, Fatal Defiance. We had actually played at the Bungalow before it closed out and happy that that's actually coming back. But I'd played a couple of shows with our bass player, Sean his band in Man Okay, So we kind of got to know each other through that. And then a few years later, like we started, you know, like hey, do you want to try to get something together here and work on some stuff. And then a few months after that, he makes a post on Facebook like Hey, any of my friends that play guitar are interested in joining a band?

Speaker 10: So I was like hi me, and he's like, yeah, check out Great Curtain. We were looking for guitar players. I guess he was gonna play guitar before but wanted to play bass.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker 10: So yeah, I checked it out and it's I like fell in love with the music instantly. Yeah, It's like that there was something very special about this band that I just really wanted to be part of and really happy to be part of it.

Speaker 11: Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 7: Dennis for that, Were you there from the beginning? That's are you an original member or no?

Speaker 9: No, no?

Speaker 11: I joined God probably two years ago.

Speaker 7: Oh okay, so you're so you're relatively new then.

Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm the only original member left.

Speaker 7: Okay, okay, yeah? Is it is it challenge?

Speaker 8: Has it been challenging it all over the years with you know, like you said, you know, people come and they go. I mean, has that been Has that been a challenge for you? Or is it has been relatively easy to find people who fit the project?

Speaker 9: Or honestly, in this area, it's very tough. And again, I'm an eclectic music lover, so this is like, but this scene is mostly metal and at least what I've seen, and our friends in the metal community like to make it very known to us we are not a metal band, right, It's like that.

Speaker 1: I know, I know we're not.

Speaker 9: But so it's it's difficult when it's like, Okay, I need my eclectic musician friends to come and do this project with me that already has two albums worth of music, and some some musicians, you know, they don't want to do the whole theme album, right, the whole concept album thing.

Speaker 1: So they bow out as well.

Speaker 9: Some musicians like Tyler are in multiple bands, you know, so it's a it's tough, and especially after someone leaves. Like so I started this band with Jim Miller and when like when I got the opportunity to play at Foxwood's it was our first show. He was the first person I called. I became very close with him over the past like the next almost decade, and it it really, it really broke my heart when he, his brother, and our drummer at the time, Sean Different Sean all left because wait, they all left it once.

Speaker 1: They all left it once. Oh my god. Yeah.

Speaker 9: So it took me a while, not just to find people, but you know, I I basically sat around writing, doing the comic, doing the stories, and really contemplating if I was even going to continue with this. Yeah, and I'm not gonna lie, you know, certain mental illnesses started creeping in and I was having a pretty difficult time at the time because it wasn't exactly one of those kind of separations where it was mutual. Oh okay, I would have gladly gone another ten twenty years with those guys. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I just decided that if I couldn't do the Gray Curtain.

Speaker 9: I wasn't going to do anything at all, because for me, it's a lot more than just playing music. It's the message. It's trying, like like I mentioned before, trying to help people. And I luckily found well, it didn't fine. I was handed in so many words, Joe Saferano for a drummer. Joe plays for the Nagans, Ragged the Stitches, he's I think he's in twenty two bands.

Speaker 9: I'm over exaggerating, but not by.

Speaker 1: Much, not by much. No great guy.

Speaker 9: And through Joe, I was able to get a hold of Sean, who much like Troy, I knew from when he was in Inman, when he was fronting Inman, and I was able to get him on board. Through Sean, I was able to get Troy. Joe left because as I mentioned, he's in one hundred and twenty seven band. And so we we struggled for a little while getting a permanent drummer, but Tyler kept filling in and finally Tyler, you know, gave into our begging and now we have Tyler. Yeah, we are currently searching for a synth keyboard player.

Speaker 9: Okay, and uh, I don't I'm I'm open to all instruments to play in this band. Yeah, but to to rope back into your original question, it gets difficult, It gets it gets trying, it gets uh mortifying. It sometimes where you're you're just messaging people that you know over and over again. It's like, hey, you know, what do you think?

Speaker 1: What do you think?

Speaker 9: And they're like, I don't know, man, you know, music's not really my thing. I don't know, man. You know, I got this other band that I'm working for. I don't know, man, you know, I'm you know, I kind of just look at it like like a hobby. That's the worst thing.

Speaker 11: Oh yeah, yeah, that response, that's the funny.

Speaker 10: There was the one guy that was like, you know, he was all on board, all about it, and then like what was it, like a day or two before we bring him in. It's like he actually listened to the songs and he's like, oh, I had actually not that into the music.

Speaker 4: Wow.

Speaker 9: He said he was a big fan and everything I was come on down. And then like two days before his try out, he's like, oh, actually, uh after listening to the music, it's a little too sad for me.

Speaker 4: Wow.

Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's the point.

Speaker 4: Oh wow.

Speaker 9: Yeah, So it gets difficult because we are we are kind of like right in the middle there where where this group's cup of tea by like a mile, and then we're not this group's cup of tea by by a mile. Right, So it gets it gets difficult, very very difficult sometimes.

Speaker 8: Especially with drummers, right, because that's that's been a running theme on the show over the years, like every drummers in multiple bands because there's so few drummers.

Speaker 1: So few, so few.

Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I I I have nothing but love for the bands that have a drummer that only drums for them. I wish I had their magic. Just make a drummer up here like that, like like Scarecrow's drummer, Brendan.

Speaker 1: I don't.

Speaker 9: I cannot stress enough how amazing Brendan is. It's like before Tyler said that he would play with us, I was just like what I And it's the same thing with the drummer for the Big son Nicks. Just unreal, unreal talent. So like there have been a couple of times where I've been like, hey, let me let me talk to you. You know, serious are you with this band?

Speaker 9: But I wouldn't have actually done that right, right, But uh, you know, I have like approached a couple of drummers just to be like, hey, do you have the time to maybe put another project in, But the answers usually nose these like the drummers that I mentioned, Brennan and Nick, like they are so passionate about this one project that they're in, and rightfully so. Scarecrow's amazing, big Son's amazing. Yeah, but yeah, they would never be like, yeah, I gotta split my time between you guys who are doing like all of this stuff has nothing to do with music, right, you know, It's like we were a multimedia type of project where you know a lot of bands are just strictly about the music, strictly about enforcing what their message is.

Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like, I completely.

Speaker 9: Understand their their point of view where it's like you don't want to overload yourself. But like you said, the scene is just deprived of it's a it's a desert trying to find a drummer that isn't in twelve bands.

Speaker 1: Shout up to Joe.

Speaker 7: If you're just joining us, we're talking.

Speaker 8: With We have Dennis and Troy here from the band The Gray Curtain, and uh, so have you guys not been so with the current situation. So you're looking for for a synth player. So are you guys not playing shows currently or are you oh, no shows? So what are you just doing it without the keyboard?

Speaker 7: Yeah?

Speaker 9: Yeah, we we have a show at Ralph's Rock Diner and Worcester on the tenth we have nice We have a show at Terminus on the eleventh.

Speaker 7: Oh excellent with all of our friends.

Speaker 9: That show a Terminus on the eleventh is just family, It's Scarecrow Hill, it's Devil inside Us, it's Fear of the Masses and it's us.

Speaker 7: Yeah.

Speaker 1: That show is just going to be fun. Yeah.

Speaker 9: And then the twenty fifth we're playing at the Spectacular with Scarecrow Bands and Double Side, Joe Solaperano a gay. I didn't know they run though, Oh the Nigans and Rag the Stitches. Joe's playing double duty on that shus.

Speaker 7: Oh excellent, excellent.

Speaker 9: Yeah, uh but yeah we're uh, we're still playing because you know, you got to get the message out there. You gotta keep uh keep you fresh in people's minds. Yeah, or else you got forgotten. I mean bottom line, well I.

Speaker 7: Would imagine too, I mean it must be.

Speaker 8: It must be kind of interesting, right if you're if you're playing, you know, because you've had to play with these different configurations over the years. So if you have if you have something that you know, maybe you want a synth player, but you don't have a synth player, so you.

Speaker 7: Got to do without.

Speaker 8: But that must be kind of that must be kind of fun thoughing away, right, because isn't it doesn't it make it a kind of more of a challenge, It's like, and it kind of it makes it gives the songs a little bit of a different different flavor, a different texture.

Speaker 11: Right, definitely.

Speaker 10: Yeah, it's like the the you know, having the limitations kind of opens up the creativity kind of like you can find like a cool effect on your pedal, Yeah, to kind of fill in that space.

Speaker 8: And yeah, yeah, I was in a band years ago, long time ago. I was in a band called First Shove and First Shove, you know, hardcore metal. We'd always been a five piece and because we had two guitar players and we had a guitar player leave and just Rich Burke who was kind of he was the only original member of the band at that point, so he was kind of the de facto leader. So we all kind of looked at him and he said, you know what, I don't think we need to replace Dave. Let's just be a four piece. So we just tried it and first Shove had never been a four piece, and it was kind of fun.

Speaker 8: Actually, yeah, you know, I mean it kind of changed the songs a little bit because he didn't have the two guitars, right, Yeah, but this sounded a little stripped down.

Speaker 7: I don't know, we all kind of liked it. We played it show and it was like, oh, this is okay, we can do it this way for a while.

Speaker 10: Yeah, there's particularly a few songs, especially like we kind of take the keyboard out of it. It definitely, like you said, strips it down and kind of gives it more of like a raw kind of feeling, and it brings it to a whole other place.

Speaker 7: Yeah.

Speaker 9: Yeah, there are a few songs actually that Troy and Sean have kind of modified so that part of what the synth player would be playing is part of what they're doing.

Speaker 7: There you go.

Speaker 9: But it's, uh, it's definitely a lot of fun now that it's like, you know, they're learning the old material, but we're also moving towards writing new material, you know, recording new material. It's uh, it's honestly, I I can't. I know, I'm gonna sound redundant here. I cannot thank the people that are involved in keeping this thing going enough, like even right down to like Eleanor from Terminus, you know who hooked us up with you guys a year ago. You know, like people that just it's like, you know, these guys need or you know, dare I say, deserve an opportunity.

Speaker 1: It's like, you know, check these guys out.

Speaker 9: I cannot stress enough, Like how thankful I am for him, for Sean, for everybody, everybody down the tone pole, John fully for giving us a place to play. Yeah, my script writing partner, April, you know, right down to my kid, yeah, you know, my kid killing you know, all these people just keeping me going, keeping me afloat, keeping me above ground as it.

Speaker 7: Were there you go.

Speaker 8: Yeah, so yeah, so your script writing. So tell us more about that. Is that the graphic novel you're talking about or.

Speaker 1: No, they're two separate things.

Speaker 9: The graphic novel is going to be a comic book based on the the Town of Apathy, which is the storyline that the albums are based on. But the script is basically almost like an episodic thing where I mean pipe dreams. You know, it becomes a show all about the town of Apathy, and you know, will include not just our music, but we want to include like other musicians from this area, like some of the bands that we mentioned.

Speaker 12: Uh.

Speaker 9: But yeah, the script is basically, if if my wildest dreams come true, it'll be a TV show.

Speaker 8: Okay, okay, excellent, outstanding. Why don't we let's play a let's play a track. I wanted to sneak this in. This is my okay, so selfishly, this is my personal favorite of all the great and I've listened to everything. I've listened everything that's available online. This is my personal favorite. Burn that bridge. What can you what can you tell us about this?

Speaker 7: Well?

Speaker 1: Actually, uh, this song was written by.

Speaker 9: The Miller Brothers and Sean Donnellan long before they met me.

Speaker 7: I wrote the lyrics.

Speaker 1: I wrote the lyrics, yeah, but the.

Speaker 9: They basically had like the whole foundation and when they told me what the title was, I was like, well, this is going to be perfect for the Florist yeah album. Yeah, and uh, you know, we just took it from there.

Speaker 8: All right, all right, let's give this a spin. This is this is such a great song. So it's called burn that Bridge. It's from the album The Florist and this is the Gray Curtains.

Speaker 2: I condone.

Speaker 3: Stop me romy blinking about it pregnantly, I could never please.

Speaker 4: It's the ways what you do in the end, Oh my red, I wanna read.

Speaker 5: What makes.

Speaker 4: The rock?

Speaker 5: The trap slaves a feeling a lot, God sat up a bolder, the.

Speaker 4: Want Way, the raying from We Got Me.

Speaker 5: Say, I Got Ramy for fifty I.

Speaker 4: Don't want to.

Speaker 7: Love it?

Speaker 8: That has Burned that Bridge. The band is the Gray Curtain, and we have Dennis and Troy here with us live in studio, and uh yeah, that's that's my favorite Gray Curtain track. So what's but we should talk out? So I don't know how much you want to say about the future, what the next project is as far as music, but you want to you want to talk about that well as it goes.

Speaker 10: Right now, we got two songs that we're going to be tracking out for as singles, and we do we want to.

Speaker 11: I think we've talked about it before.

Speaker 10: If we just kind of want to do it kind of a double album kind of thing. We've got seven songs for each one so far, and we kind of want to push a few more on each one, but it's we we we got some ambitious things coming.

Speaker 9: Yeah, and again, what I absolutely love is anyone that's in this band always seems to have like this jolt of energy to you know, do these stories with me. This next story is going to be about two assassins, essentially, and each story kind of interweaves as they're given.

Speaker 12: Uh.

Speaker 9: The main antagonist of the town of Apathy is this demi god vengeful spirit from purgatory named shol and he's very bored in this town because he's all powerful and everybody else is weak underneath him. So he starts playing these little games with his pets, and he hands one ten a name of excuse me, a list of ten names, and he gave another a list of ten names and says, the first to kill every person on your list of ten gets to leave this town. No strings attached the albums. I was hoping to do one for one killer and one for the other killer.

Speaker 9: And there was like a good couple of months there where I was afraid to say anything without it because I was like, I don't know, these guys are new. I'm gonna come at them with this double album idea and they're gonna be like, yeah, I'm all about it. Yeah, as soon as I told it's like sweets is good, good, yeah, outstanding? Any kind of an ETA off air you said twenty thirty Yeah, yeah, twenty thirty three, twenty forty Yeah, I should right around the time I get an AARP card. But you know, I'm I don't know, I'm I'm always pushing for the next thing, which is another reason why I use the word tolerate.

Speaker 9: You know, people tolerate me for an extended amount of time. Uh, you know, because I'm always like, hey, you know, we got to keep going, we got to keep pushing forward. We got to you know, where are you at with this? You know, where are you at with that? I you know, I need to work on this. So I'm gonna, you know, work on this until you know, Saturday when we all get together and I'm going to have like all this ready for you guys, so be ready.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a handful. Yeah yeah, So that's what.

Speaker 9: It takes, so right, it is, but it gets it gets tiring for people that are not on that level.

Speaker 1: We just want to have fun with it. Yeah, yeah, you know, and I get that.

Speaker 9: So what I'm hoping for is a twenty early twenty twenty seven release, but you know, if if I can twenty twenty six, but I think that's pushing it.

Speaker 10: Yeah, I definitely want to like have all the songs, you know, written it together by the end of twenty twenty six.

Speaker 11: But yeah, yeah, I think I think that's pretty achievable.

Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right, you know, have all the songs ready by the end of twenty twenty six and then record and get everything out, hopefully have the graphic novel to go along with it. I've I've said that for the last two albums, and none of them have come out yet because it's just me. Yeah, yeah, you know, I would love to have a team of artists helping me out with this. Even with the script I didn't have, like I had like a couple of pages here, a couple of pages there. But my brain is my worst enemy, as we've talked about, so a lot of times I would get like a couple of pages in and just shut down.

Speaker 9: All it took was one person to be like, all right, tell me the story campfire style go and we're nearing a thousand.

Speaker 7: Pages, no kidding, Wow, okay, excellent.

Speaker 9: I'm hoping to do that with the graphic novel and you know, the next album, the next I mean, there's twenty chapters to this Town of Town of Apathy storyline. So I'm hoping, yeah, before I before the cancer takes over and I can't do this anymore, I'm hoping to.

Speaker 1: Get it all out.

Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, yeah, so, and I guess that's another reason why I push so hard, you know, for like the timeline.

Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense, that makes sense. Well, speaking of time, the time does go quickly. So before we are going to play, we're gonna play one more song, going to finish out the segment. But I want to make sure remind us when the next show is or the next couple of shows. And also where is the best place for people to go online to keep up with everything that the Great Curtain is doing? Yeah?

Speaker 10: Yeah, we got a Ralph's Rock Diner and Worcester on the and then Terminus on the eleventh, excellent, excellent, Codo Lowell on the twenty fifth.

Speaker 9: Okay yeah, and then yeah, selfish plug I have an art show at Terminus on the seventeenth. Yeah, oh yeah, Eleanor is allowing me to, for the first time ever, put my art up for display.

Speaker 7: Oh congratulations.

Speaker 9: And it's gonna be another reason why I love this show at Terminus, you know, along with playing with Scarecrow and even that show at Ralse, we're playing with mary An Toilette and the Runs. Yeah I love them, Zombie you know. But but yeah, we're going to be playing with Scarecrow Hill and Fear of the Masses and and Excuse Me and Devil inside Us and my art is going to be down the hall hanging on the wall.

Speaker 7: Fantastic.

Speaker 9: So yeah, the seventeenth will be a uh, just a strict art show.

Speaker 11: And but you have the art hanging up all month long.

Speaker 7: Yeap.

Speaker 1: The art will be hanging up all month long.

Speaker 7: Outstanding.

Speaker 9: Yeah, thirty one pieces. But the best way to uh listen to us. We have a Spotify page, Apple Music, band Camp. We're we're on all streaming platforms Okay except Amazon, I noticed that we're not on it, but yeah, every other streaming platform we're on it.

Speaker 8: Yeah.

Speaker 7: Yeah, we should tell people how to spelled gray because.

Speaker 9: Spell Yes, we talked about this at the Goat before we came in here.

Speaker 1: Yeah, it's g r e y. It's the old English spelling.

Speaker 9: A lot of people will spell it with an A, and you know, the search comes up with just a bunch of physical gray curtains.

Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Fred you guys anywhere.

Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8: That's one of the few words in the English language you can spell it either way and it's considered correct in American English.

Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, very good, guys, Thank you so much.

Speaker 8: And we're going to close out the segment with So we're gonna call this p Drunk outside of bars leaving voicemails. That's not the act, not quite the actual title.

Speaker 1: I can't apologize enough for that.

Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, no, nothing to apologize for. But people can figure out what the p where it actually is. But it's anything we should know about this before we hear.

Speaker 9: It or basically, in real life, I lost the love of my life because I was a very difficult person, uh suffering from addiction. And in the story and in real life, this is about a particular incident where I was outside of one of my favorite bars, leaving voicemails in a particularly inebriated state.

Speaker 8: Okay, okay, So we're going to close out with this and if you are listening live on Saturday, coming up in the next hour, we've got Ryan Redwood. He's going to be joining us via WhatsApp from the UK talking about his new single. And then in the final segment of the show, we have the Fods I think I think they're from New York, but they're going to be joining us online as well. So we do have a lot left to go, but we're going to close out this hour with this p drunk outside of bars, leaving voicemails from the Gray Curtain and Dennison Troy thank you again so much.

Speaker 11: Thank you for having us.

Speaker 7: Thank you Jen Absolute.

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