The Fods | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. The track is called the Ineffectuals

0:02 Speaker 1: and the band is the Fods, and uh oh, that

0:06 Speaker 1: is so good.

0:07 Speaker 2: That is so good.

0:08 Speaker 1: And we've got Rob Critchley from the Fods on the

0:11 Speaker 1: phone with us via WhatsApp.

0:13 Speaker 2: Rob, are you there, I'm him? Can you hear me?

0:16 Speaker 1: I can? Yes, yes, Hey, I love this. I love

0:19 Speaker 1: that song. And I've been I've been anxious to talk

0:21 Speaker 1: to you. You sent us a couple songs. We're gonna play

0:23 Speaker 1: the other one at the end of the segment. But

0:25 Speaker 1: I love the sound of the Fods. But now it's interesting, though,

0:28 Speaker 1: so the Fods tell tell me if I'm if my

0:31 Speaker 1: perception is correct. Is it not so much a band

0:33 Speaker 1: but more of a collective? Would collective be a better word,

0:36 Speaker 1: because it seems to it kind of changes in morphs,

0:39 Speaker 1: and and tell us about the Fods.

0:43 Speaker 3: It absolutely changes the morphs. So there's basically two of

0:48 Speaker 3: us who write songs. Okay, I write the lyrics and

0:52 Speaker 3: I write the lyrics and some of the music. And

0:54 Speaker 3: I'm not particularly good musicians. So I send voice notes,

1:00 Speaker 3: you know, tinkerings over WhatsApp, and I send it to

1:06 Speaker 3: my old school friend of thirty five years and I

1:12 Speaker 3: send it over to him who's still in Manchester in

1:14 Speaker 3: the UK, and he's he's been in the music business

1:18 Speaker 3: with various bands for all that time, and he does

1:23 Speaker 3: the majority of the music and putting it all together.

1:27 Speaker 3: And we've got a mixed guy who is incredible and

1:31 Speaker 3: he's also dirt.

1:32 Speaker 2: Cheap for us release because of hate and he does

1:36 Speaker 2: the mixing.

1:37 Speaker 3: So there's three of us, and there's also we sometimes

1:41 Speaker 3: use a guitarist out of old old band, and we

1:46 Speaker 3: sometimes use a vocalist guitarist out of our old band

1:51 Speaker 3: from when we were at school. So all and I

1:54 Speaker 3: go all the way back to like the I'm trying

1:58 Speaker 3: not to age myself here, late nineteen eighties, okay, and

2:04 Speaker 3: we were we were in like, uh, you know, a

2:07 Speaker 3: school band, and we tried really hard and we didn't

2:11 Speaker 3: We wrote a few decent songs and we won a

2:13 Speaker 3: Battle of the bands, and then we all disappeared off

2:15 Speaker 3: to university and he carried on in a different morphed

2:19 Speaker 3: into a different band and they did okay, and we.

2:23 Speaker 2: Sort of lost contact a little bit. Like I was

2:25 Speaker 2: always like sort.

2:26 Speaker 3: Of following him, and when I was at university in

2:28 Speaker 3: London and his band came down and played in London.

2:32 Speaker 3: So I went and watched it, and so I knew

2:34 Speaker 3: them all and they were good guys, and you know,

2:37 Speaker 3: as the two thousands went along, I think he got

2:42 Speaker 3: a little bit, you know, chewed up by the music

2:46 Speaker 3: industry like a lot of people have done.

2:47 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it happens, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:50 Speaker 3: So he he was writing really good songs and you know,

2:53 Speaker 3: playing half decent venues and you know, not getting any

2:57 Speaker 3: traction and not getting any you know, we've been promised

3:01 Speaker 3: deals by record companies and they've never come to fruition

3:04 Speaker 3: and all that sort of stuff.

3:04 Speaker 2: You know, a tailor's old as the time in the

3:08 Speaker 2: music industry. And during COVID.

3:13 Speaker 3: He he got hold of a couple of old bandmates

3:18 Speaker 3: and during COVID they just set up phones and started

3:22 Speaker 3: playing their old stuff and under the name of the

3:26 Speaker 3: good Stoff Project, they eventually released like six songs or something,

3:31 Speaker 3: and they were all done remotely, like in four different rooms,

3:34 Speaker 3: and they found a they found a singer who was

3:35 Speaker 3: really good.

3:37 Speaker 2: She did her part remotely. And this has gotten on

3:40 Speaker 2: to do with the Fogs, by the way, Yeah, yeah, no, I.

3:45 Speaker 1: Want to learn.

3:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, So during COVID.

3:49 Speaker 3: They did six songs all remotely, put it on an

3:52 Speaker 3: album six CP coord remote and released it. And one

3:57 Speaker 3: of the songs that's which they didn't do because was

4:01 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, they didn't want it on this EP

4:04 Speaker 3: and the new singer didn't like it or.

4:07 Speaker 2: Whatever it was.

4:08 Speaker 3: We're shopping, which you're presuming I think you're going to

4:10 Speaker 3: play later.

4:11 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so he said to me. He said to me,

4:15 Speaker 2: can can you you sort of rework.

4:17 Speaker 3: It and like change some of the lyrics which may

4:19 Speaker 3: be a bit outdated, and you know, we'll we'll re

4:23 Speaker 3: envision it and we'll, you know, see where it goes.

4:28 Speaker 2: So I'm like, yeah, I've always loved shopping. I think

4:29 Speaker 2: it's a great song.

4:31 Speaker 3: And while we were talking about this, we started talking

4:33 Speaker 3: about the old music we.

4:35 Speaker 2: Released and like the gigs that we played together and

4:37 Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff.

4:39 Speaker 3: So he goes, well, while we're doing this, why don't

4:41 Speaker 3: we go back and find the seven songs which we

4:43 Speaker 3: did together over a period of like two years in

4:45 Speaker 3: the late nineties and see what we can do with

4:48 Speaker 3: them as well. So that's what we did, and they

4:52 Speaker 3: don't argue. EP was the first thing in which we

4:55 Speaker 3: put out as the odds. And so there's the two

4:59 Speaker 3: of us and we used on that EP four different

5:02 Speaker 3: singers and so that's how we sort of developed into

5:06 Speaker 3: this collective. And so the four different singers like we

5:11 Speaker 3: sort of found because for the first one, we didn't

5:14 Speaker 3: have anyone. So we just said the first person who

5:17 Speaker 3: said yes, we were well, let's try it.

5:19 Speaker 2: Let's see it. And it went quite well.

5:21 Speaker 3: So he did a couple of mon and there's a

5:24 Speaker 3: few other people who got involved. And as as that album,

5:28 Speaker 3: all those songs off that album got a bit more momentum,

5:31 Speaker 3: it started to get easier to entice singers to actually

5:35 Speaker 3: come and do it for us. Right, So this is

5:40 Speaker 3: how we ended up with Joe Boo. As you can

5:43 Speaker 3: hear from his vocal performance in the Indefectuals, you can

5:46 Speaker 3: actually sing. You know, he's a real, real talent, and

5:50 Speaker 3: he liked he liked what we did in Dan Don't

5:54 Speaker 3: Argue EP, and we you know, we've chatted occasionally on

5:57 Speaker 3: other shows and you know, in a couple of Discord channels,

6:01 Speaker 3: and I've downloaded his songs and he's listened to ours.

6:04 Speaker 3: So I blindly sent a text to him, you know,

6:09 Speaker 3: a Facebook messenger or whatever and said, look, do you

6:12 Speaker 3: fancy having to.

6:13 Speaker 2: Go We've got a new song lined up, And he's like, yeah, yeah,

6:16 Speaker 2: give me, give me a couple of weeks and then

6:18 Speaker 2: I'll be in some of the other stuff.

6:19 Speaker 3: Over and when I've got time, I'll have a look.

6:22 Speaker 3: So we sent some other stuff over and literally been

6:25 Speaker 3: two weeks. It's sent back, you.

6:27 Speaker 2: Know, vocals for it.

6:28 Speaker 3: Wow, this is like he's so much better than we are.

6:34 Speaker 3: Like me and all are like, okay, we've got to

6:36 Speaker 3: like really sort of think about what we're going to

6:38 Speaker 3: do here, and we're going right, the lyrics needs changing

6:41 Speaker 3: and like it needs bumping up and like so we

6:45 Speaker 3: scrabbled around for a couple of weeks and send him

6:47 Speaker 3: back something and it's like, guys, this is brilliant, Like

6:50 Speaker 3: this is.

6:50 Speaker 2: Coming together really well. And he sent it back and

6:53 Speaker 2: we're like, wow, his vocals are even better on this

6:55 Speaker 2: first that's great.

6:57 Speaker 3: So so we did all this and all these things

7:00 Speaker 3: which we are doing are all remote. So Joe's in Florida,

7:04 Speaker 3: I'm in Joseph City, and Paul's in Manchester in the UK.

7:08 Speaker 3: You know, all these files and things are flying back

7:10 Speaker 3: and forth and uh yeah. So so eventually we got

7:14 Speaker 3: we got to a place where music was getting close

7:18 Speaker 3: to what Joe was was putting out. And you know,

7:21 Speaker 3: his his vocals are outstanding.

7:24 Speaker 2: He's done loads and loads, but stuff.

7:25 Speaker 3: Like he's constantly he I think that's what he does

7:30 Speaker 3: is collaborate. He's got like a couple of bands that

7:32 Speaker 3: he's getting a bit more serious with. Okay, but like

7:34 Speaker 3: he's a he's a collaborator and he's been on loads

7:36 Speaker 3: of people's and songs and yeah, people should check him

7:41 Speaker 3: out because he's outrageous.

7:43 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting because it's like something that comes

7:48 Speaker 1: up a lot on the show is you know, COVID

7:51 Speaker 1: and how COVID changed so much. And I feel like,

7:54 Speaker 1: obviously it was terrible, but we got to find those

7:57 Speaker 1: silver linings where we can. And I think one of

7:59 Speaker 1: the one of the few silver linings of the pandemic

8:02 Speaker 1: was it kind of forced people to think a little

8:04 Speaker 1: bit outside the box in terms of, you know, the

8:06 Speaker 1: technology already existed, you know, to share files back and forth,

8:11 Speaker 1: and and and and to collaborate via the Internet. But

8:14 Speaker 1: I think what the pandemic did it kind of forced

8:15 Speaker 1: a lot of people to really embrace it more. And

8:19 Speaker 1: so you see a lot more of these kinds of

8:21 Speaker 1: projects now where you know, people aren't even in this case,

8:25 Speaker 1: not even necessarily on the same continent, right, but you

8:28 Speaker 1: can you can collaborate that way, and you can send

8:31 Speaker 1: files back and forth, and people are more comfortable with

8:33 Speaker 1: it now. And I mean, and and you know, the

8:36 Speaker 1: FODS probably, I mean, without the Internet, I think it's

8:38 Speaker 1: safe to say the FODS would not exist as a project,

8:41 Speaker 1: right because you know, yeah, you wouldn't be able to

8:44 Speaker 1: connect all of this.

8:45 Speaker 3: So so if if you look at it like it

8:49 Speaker 3: used to be, like it used to have to get

8:50 Speaker 3: four or five people into a tiny little room, and

8:54 Speaker 3: that's how people used to make music.

8:56 Speaker 2: And it's not wrong with that. I'd love to do

8:58 Speaker 2: that again. Sure, you know, get get in a studio or.

9:02 Speaker 3: Get because we don't really see the end products. I

9:07 Speaker 3: send my bit off and I'm involved in the producing

9:11 Speaker 3: and all that sort of stuff, and then it goes

9:13 Speaker 3: to mix it and he does his stuff, and then

9:17 Speaker 3: it comes back to me and I go, I don't

9:20 Speaker 3: really know what more to add to that. It's outstanding, yeah,

9:23 Speaker 3: you know, And I could give him little tip bits

9:26 Speaker 3: and say oh, at one minute twenty three, can you

9:31 Speaker 3: do this instead of this? And he goes yeah, and

9:32 Speaker 3: it takes like seconds and and he's done. I'm like, Okay,

9:36 Speaker 3: that's good.

9:37 Speaker 2: And so the technology is so good these days. You know,

9:41 Speaker 2: he has a real job. He's not a real.

9:44 Speaker 3: Well he is a real mixer because he's incredible at it,

9:47 Speaker 3: but he also has a day job and you.

9:49 Speaker 2: Know this is his side hobby. Oh okay, yeah, and

9:54 Speaker 2: he's outstanding.

9:55 Speaker 3: And some of the stuff that we've got coming out.

9:58 Speaker 3: So these two songs, Ineffectuals and Shopping Like came out

10:02 Speaker 3: in January, and we've been we've had i think eight

10:08 Speaker 3: other songs in weird stages of like pre production and

10:14 Speaker 3: sitting with about another band or a singer or sitting somewhere.

10:19 Speaker 3: And there's there's one song that we've been waiting on

10:22 Speaker 3: a singer to do it for like six months and

10:25 Speaker 3: eventually we've just had to say to him, look, it's

10:28 Speaker 3: been far too long. We need to find someone else.

10:31 Speaker 3: Because and we found someone else and they did it

10:33 Speaker 3: in like two weeks. So this is this is one

10:38 Speaker 3: of the one of the pitfalls about doing it this way, because.

10:41 Speaker 2: Someone will with the best intentions. Yeah, we'll go.

10:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great song, like I think it will

10:46 Speaker 3: really fit my my voice on my tone, and and

10:50 Speaker 3: I'll get around to it, you know, I've got a

10:52 Speaker 3: couple of things to do, and then.

10:53 Speaker 2: You know, in three weeks, i'll be there. I'll be

10:55 Speaker 2: on it. So in a month later, I'll text him

10:58 Speaker 2: back and go, how's it going.

10:59 Speaker 3: I've not got around to it yet, you know, give me,

11:01 Speaker 3: give me a couple of weeks and I'll.

11:03 Speaker 2: So this little back and forth goes on, and it

11:05 Speaker 2: gets quite.

11:05 Speaker 1: Awkward, you know, yeah, no doubt and no doubt.

11:09 Speaker 3: And eventually I had to say to him, look, I

11:11 Speaker 3: know you really want to do this, but like you've

11:13 Speaker 3: had it for six months and pre want to try

11:16 Speaker 3: and get an album out in.

11:18 Speaker 2: January or February or March or sometime.

11:23 Speaker 3: I don't know whether you're going to get me any

11:25 Speaker 3: get me anything to to.

11:28 Speaker 2: Put on it. Yeah, yeah, I get it.

11:30 Speaker 3: And then we gave it to someone else who turned

11:32 Speaker 3: it around in three weeks. As much as you want

11:38 Speaker 3: a particular person, you think this song, I think will

11:41 Speaker 3: and you find a person who you know. I've trolled

11:44 Speaker 3: through all sorts of radio stations and streaming platforms just

11:50 Speaker 3: to find like someone who's got a sound which we

11:53 Speaker 3: think will be great for this particular song. And we've

11:59 Speaker 3: also done it right, just have it and give it

12:02 Speaker 3: a go and see what it comes up with. There

12:03 Speaker 3: was a there was a song on I'd Argue Epic

12:08 Speaker 3: which was never really meant to be like It turned

12:10 Speaker 3: out to be a bit of a shoot gaze indie

12:13 Speaker 3: song and it was never never meant to be like that.

12:16 Speaker 3: But the guy who we gave it to just gave

12:19 Speaker 3: it that vibe. Yeah, and it came back and we

12:22 Speaker 3: were like, well, we weren't expecting this, but this is different.

12:25 Speaker 2: Book great, you know.

12:27 Speaker 3: So one of the things that we really want to

12:29 Speaker 3: do is have these singers put their mark on our

12:32 Speaker 3: songs as well, because there's no point me's sending a

12:35 Speaker 3: settling something off and saying right, I mean this probably

12:39 Speaker 3: won't happen, but like we've got a sound, a song

12:41 Speaker 3: that sounds like europe m made this like Joey Tempest, right.

12:45 Speaker 2: Right, that's pointless.

12:48 Speaker 3: So we want them to put their own stamp, and

12:53 Speaker 3: we've got obviously Laura is a female, so we've we're

12:58 Speaker 3: looking to get female singers into it as well, which

13:01 Speaker 3: opens a whole new.

13:03 Speaker 2: Sort of sound for us.

13:06 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so you know we're not stuck with just

13:09 Speaker 3: like guys singing it like if we like, we've got

13:11 Speaker 3: two on the on the albums coming out that we've

13:14 Speaker 3: we're going to release them. We weren't going to even

13:16 Speaker 3: release this, but one of the songs sound came out

13:20 Speaker 3: sounding so good that we're right the middle of October

13:23 Speaker 3: we're going to release it and see what people think.

13:25 Speaker 3: And it's nothing, it's not I don't think it's even

13:28 Speaker 3: a rock song.

13:29 Speaker 2: Oh really, it's sort of a blues blues ballady type thing.

13:33 Speaker 3: Oh nice, you may fit on a James Bond theme,

13:37 Speaker 3: so we'll see.

13:38 Speaker 2: But like we love it, so yeah, see what people think.

13:42 Speaker 1: That must be exciting for you though, because as as

13:44 Speaker 1: you're coming up with these ideas for these songs and

13:46 Speaker 1: you're you're putting lyrics together and so forth, that you know,

13:48 Speaker 1: it sounds like it's it's kind of an adventure because

13:52 Speaker 1: you don't know once it leaves your hands, you don't

13:54 Speaker 1: know exactly what's going to happen to it, and obviously

13:58 Speaker 1: you know you've got to approve what I whatever happens

14:00 Speaker 1: to it. But with working with these different singers, you

14:04 Speaker 1: don't know until it happens what kind of a stamp

14:07 Speaker 1: they're going to put on it. And that just must

14:10 Speaker 1: be that must be very exciting. I would think, you

14:12 Speaker 1: know that.

14:13 Speaker 3: It's it's it's exciting, and it's also quite frightened as well.

14:19 Speaker 3: Like you say, you just don't know, so it's a

14:21 Speaker 3: huge step into the unknown. Yeah, so we're like, right,

14:25 Speaker 3: there's a song that I wrote and I was listening

14:29 Speaker 3: to a bit more dancy type of stuff and I'd

14:32 Speaker 3: love to love us to put out something because you know,

14:35 Speaker 3: we we don't tend to stick to one genre. Yeah,

14:38 Speaker 3: I'll just put out something a little bit more dancing,

14:41 Speaker 3: like with a bit of a boogie feel, you know,

14:42 Speaker 3: sort of like that. And I wrote these lyrics. It's

14:45 Speaker 3: a song called Fuel and hopefully we'll be out around

14:48 Speaker 3: Christmas all New York, okay. And I wrote it and

14:52 Speaker 3: it's called Fuel, and I was thinking about, like, you know,

14:56 Speaker 3: maybe a bit hedonistic and you know, dancing o'clock in

15:00 Speaker 3: the morning and all that sort of stuff. And the

15:03 Speaker 3: way it's turned out is like a I don't even

15:08 Speaker 3: know what the term for it. It's like sludge stone

15:11 Speaker 3: and metal, so it's gone into a totally different like

15:18 Speaker 3: genre and spectrum.

15:20 Speaker 2: I never thought it was, but it's brilliant. It's brilliant.

15:24 Speaker 3: And when we actually gave it to the band who

15:28 Speaker 3: did it, they were like, what you're expecting from this?

15:30 Speaker 3: And I explained this to them and they were like, right,

15:33 Speaker 3: just leave it with me.

15:34 Speaker 2: I've got this.

15:35 Speaker 3: And he came back and he's a vocal and he's

15:37 Speaker 3: also done a.

15:39 Speaker 2: Guitar solo for it.

15:41 Speaker 3: And if someone has said to me, I wrote it,

15:45 Speaker 3: you know, eighteen months ago, and someone said to me

15:47 Speaker 3: eighteen months ago, you'll have this.

15:49 Speaker 2: Five and a half minute long you know, goes on

15:55 Speaker 2: like that, and I'll be like, Okay, that's cool. But yeah,

16:00 Speaker 2: even writing the lyrics, you don't know where it's it's

16:02 Speaker 2: going to go, and you've always got something you know

16:05 Speaker 2: in your mind slightly yeah you know who knows?

16:09 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, No, that's uh, that's really cool. And so

16:13 Speaker 1: where should well actually a quick question, what does what

16:16 Speaker 1: does the name mean?

16:17 Speaker 2: Where?

16:18 Speaker 1: Where does the name? You probably get this question what

16:20 Speaker 1: is a far.

16:22 Speaker 2: Right?

16:23 Speaker 3: So if you listen to me, I've got a bit

16:27 Speaker 3: of an accent, right, yes, from a place called Warrington

16:30 Speaker 3: in Cheshire, which is just that side of Manchester in

16:32 Speaker 3: the UK, and we all sort of grew up there

16:35 Speaker 3: and Warrington is like one of these it isn't like

16:38 Speaker 3: an old mill town and the Euston mill wire in

16:43 Speaker 3: the in the in the factories in Warrington. Yeah, and everyone,

16:47 Speaker 3: my accent is not too bad because I say in

16:51 Speaker 3: a broad that's the right word.

16:53 Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, because.

16:54 Speaker 3: I went to University of London and then I was

16:58 Speaker 3: so down there for ten year is and then I've

17:00 Speaker 3: been over in the States for another ten years.

17:03 Speaker 2: So whatever accent, I had a sort of mellow Sure.

17:07 Speaker 3: Well, if you're from if you're from Warrington, you say

17:09 Speaker 3: things in a particular way, okay, And all our guitarist

17:12 Speaker 3: is a.

17:12 Speaker 2: Place called is from a place called Orford in Warrenton. Okay.

17:17 Speaker 2: And if you say Orthored in a Warrington accident, say orthored.

17:21 Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, see what I do, I do drop We've

17:28 Speaker 3: dropped the or off. And so basically, if you say

17:32 Speaker 3: it right, you would be the authors.

17:34 Speaker 1: Gotcha.

17:34 Speaker 2: Now we're just the fodds.

17:36 Speaker 1: Gotcha.

17:37 Speaker 2: Gotcha is Yeah, it's.

17:39 Speaker 3: It's a it's a shortened version of Orford said in

17:44 Speaker 3: a Warrington accent.

17:45 Speaker 1: That makes sense, That makes sense, well, Rob, Unfortunately, the

17:49 Speaker 1: time goes quickly and I want to make sure we

17:50 Speaker 1: get this last h this last single in shopping. But

17:54 Speaker 1: we'll have to have you back soon, definitely, when the

17:57 Speaker 1: next single is ready, we'll have you back, and we'll

17:59 Speaker 1: we'll book a longer block of time because i'd love

18:01 Speaker 1: to talk to you more.

18:02 Speaker 3: But no, that, yeah, that sounds great. The new single,

18:06 Speaker 3: I'll drop it over to you as well. Oh wonderful

18:09 Speaker 3: is very much enough and it's out on I think

18:13 Speaker 3: October seventeens.

18:14 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'll.

18:18 Speaker 3: Drop that over to you and you can have a

18:19 Speaker 3: little preview for for it and have a little listen

18:22 Speaker 3: and seeing.

18:24 Speaker 2: I would love to love to get on with you again, yeah,

18:28 Speaker 2: whenever it's good for you to be honest.

18:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, great, No, that'll give us an excuse to

18:31 Speaker 1: get you booked again quickly, because I do want to

18:33 Speaker 1: have a longer conversation with you. But well, we're gonna good,

18:37 Speaker 1: We're gonna spend this track shopping and this is with So,

18:40 Speaker 1: this is with Ora Davis on vocals.

18:43 Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, okay, she's yeah. I found her when we

18:47 Speaker 3: first started looking for people, and I never thought you'd

18:50 Speaker 3: give us a shot either.

18:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, but people, people are generous with their time and

18:56 Speaker 2: generous with their talents.

18:57 Speaker 3: And you know, we're grateful for for all the people

19:01 Speaker 3: that we've worked with, and we hope they've had a

19:02 Speaker 3: good experience with it as well, because you know, we've

19:05 Speaker 3: got something really good out of all this experience and

19:09 Speaker 3: everyone that we speak to it seems to well, you know,

19:12 Speaker 3: people are nice and may not tell us the truth.

19:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, gotcha. All right, Rob, we will let you go.

19:18 Speaker 1: We're gonna spin this track. But thank you so much

19:20 Speaker 1: for joining us. And yeah, well we'll have you back

19:22 Speaker 1: on soon for sure.

19:24 Speaker 2: Sounds good. I appreciate you, Thanks very much.

19:26 Speaker 1: All right, you got it, Rob, Thank you?

19:27 Speaker 2: Bybye, all right, sweet too, by bye bye bye.

19:30 Speaker 1: All right. That is that's Rob from the Fods. Let's

19:34 Speaker 1: give this a spin. I really love this too. I

19:35 Speaker 1: love their sound. Both of these songs are really good.

19:38 Speaker 1: But earlier we played the ineffectuals. We're gonna play this.

19:41 Speaker 1: This is Shopping by the Fods. And then after this,

19:44 Speaker 1: Jenny and I will be back for a quick minute

19:46 Speaker 1: before we run out of show. We'll tell you about

19:48 Speaker 1: what we're doing later today. If you want to join us.

19:50 Speaker 1: But here it is the Fods. The track is called

19:52 Speaker 1: Shopping