Ryan Redwood returns with "The Back Room" | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: Such a great track. That is The back Room by

0:03 Speaker 1: Ryan Redwood and we're gonna be talking with Ryan in

0:06 Speaker 1: just a moment. Welcome everybody if you are listening live.

0:08 Speaker 1: On Saturday, October four, twenty twenty five, we have entered

0:12 Speaker 1: our number three new Marrow trace of Matt Connorton Unleashed,

0:15 Speaker 1: and we are live from the studios of w n

0:17 Speaker 1: H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New

0:20 Speaker 1: Hampshire and Ryan returns. We had Ryan on the show

0:23 Speaker 1: recently to talk about his first single Tomorrow that we

0:27 Speaker 1: premiered on the show, and then we played The back

0:29 Speaker 1: Room recently for the first time on American radio. Another

0:32 Speaker 1: great track, and I think Ryan is on the line

0:34 Speaker 1: with us to be a WhatsApp Hi Ryan.

0:37 Speaker 2: Hello, Matt, how you doing mate? You okay?

0:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, welcome back to the show. Thank you for

0:41 Speaker 1: being patient. I know we're running a little bit behind,

0:43 Speaker 1: but great to talk to you again. I love that

0:45 Speaker 1: song so catchy.

0:47 Speaker 2: Thank you very much mate, and thank you again for

0:49 Speaker 2: having me back home.

0:50 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely now that song. What can you tell us

0:54 Speaker 1: about that song? Because you know it sounds like it

0:58 Speaker 1: sounds like you know, a dude, a girl, you know

1:01 Speaker 1: that he's interested in and so forth. But I feel

1:03 Speaker 1: like there's some other there's some other things in there

1:05 Speaker 1: that you're kind of dealing with in the lyrics. So

1:07 Speaker 1: what can you tell us about that track? Yeah?

1:10 Speaker 3: Man, So it basically it started off it was going

1:12 Speaker 3: to be like a funny tune because me and my

1:15 Speaker 3: producer and best mate Asa, who I do everything with,

1:18 Speaker 3: write and record everything in the back room. So we

1:21 Speaker 3: like originally were like, let's write a funny sort of

1:23 Speaker 3: song about how we do everything in the back room

1:25 Speaker 3: and we never leave it and stuff. And then we

1:28 Speaker 3: sort of had the tune down, and then when I

1:30 Speaker 3: got to writing the lyrics, nothing funny came out. A

1:32 Speaker 3: lot of like things that I was probably dealing with

1:35 Speaker 3: internally sort of came out and just spilled onto the page,

1:38 Speaker 3: which I guess is what songwriting is all about, right, Yeah?

1:42 Speaker 1: Interesting? And what are some of those things that were

1:45 Speaker 1: you know, they come out in the song.

1:48 Speaker 3: I saw about like my ADHD and like how I

1:52 Speaker 3: feel like the anxiety of that sort of watches me

1:54 Speaker 3: as I'm sort of trying to make it with like

1:57 Speaker 3: music or whatever I'm doing at the time, and like

1:59 Speaker 3: how I can't really run away from it.

2:01 Speaker 2: If that makes sense.

2:02 Speaker 1: It does, it does. I think we talked about that

2:05 Speaker 1: the last time you were on the show with us too,

2:07 Speaker 1: about you know, how a lot of creative people have

2:09 Speaker 1: that ADHD and and and how it kind of uh

2:13 Speaker 1: informs what you do creatively, and how there are ways

2:18 Speaker 1: that you know it can actually be beneficial, it can

2:21 Speaker 1: it can help you to create. I think we we

2:24 Speaker 1: don't have to rehash all that because I think we

2:26 Speaker 1: talked about a lot of that last time. But it's

2:28 Speaker 1: interesting that that you kind of express that in the

2:31 Speaker 1: lyrics of the song. And again it's it's kind of like,

2:34 Speaker 1: you know, I listened to it and it's like okay,

2:36 Speaker 1: you know, and I went back and listened to it

2:38 Speaker 1: again and I was like, now there's something else going

2:40 Speaker 1: on here. It's interesting.

2:41 Speaker 2: Yeah.

2:42 Speaker 1: Yeah.

2:42 Speaker 3: I like to sort of give them sort of like

2:44 Speaker 3: it's like a double meaning, I guess, because it's cool

2:46 Speaker 3: to have other people say, oh, this feels like this

2:48 Speaker 3: to me or I think it means this sort of thing,

2:51 Speaker 3: and then to have that like conversation like someone like

2:53 Speaker 3: yourself as well, and be able to be like, well,

2:55 Speaker 3: I when I wrote it, I meant this, but obviously

2:57 Speaker 3: you can interpret how how interpret sorry, however you want to.

3:01 Speaker 3: Really like that's I think that's the best bit about

3:05 Speaker 3: music really is that lyrics can mean anything to anyone, right.

3:07 Speaker 1: Right, right? Absolutely. What's also kind of fun, right it's

3:11 Speaker 1: it's a it's an adventure when you when you have

3:14 Speaker 1: an idea for a song and you and you embark

3:17 Speaker 1: on creating that and then it ends up being something

3:20 Speaker 1: different than what you had originally in mind. I mean,

3:23 Speaker 1: that's that there's something kind of satisfying about that, right

3:26 Speaker 1: when you because when you are able to surprise yourself

3:30 Speaker 1: as a songwriter and you go, oh, I didn't I

3:32 Speaker 1: didn't know this was gonna happen, but this is cool.

3:35 Speaker 1: I like this.

3:35 Speaker 3: You know, well that's literally what happened, like when it happened.

3:39 Speaker 3: And I had all these lyrics sort of written down,

3:41 Speaker 3: so I sort sometimes I start from like a line,

3:43 Speaker 3: or i'd write like a paragraph how I'm feeling or whatever.

3:46 Speaker 3: But and then I sat there and sort of reflected

3:48 Speaker 3: once the song was finished, and was like, what are

3:51 Speaker 3: these lyrics actually about?

3:52 Speaker 1: Yeah?

3:52 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, it's actually about my mental health. Actually,

3:55 Speaker 3: I didn't really know what it was about when we

3:57 Speaker 3: recorded it and when I wrote the lyrics as such.

3:59 Speaker 3: It wasn't until a week later when when I've got

4:01 Speaker 3: the master's back and I was like, oh, yeah, it's

4:03 Speaker 3: about that.

4:05 Speaker 1: Well. It's interesting that when you when you're in a

4:08 Speaker 1: situation where you know, maybe you see someone who you

4:12 Speaker 1: find attractive and you're and you're contemplating. It's funny our

4:18 Speaker 1: our guests that we had on in the first hour

4:19 Speaker 1: of the show today, he had a he had a

4:21 Speaker 1: song that was kind of about that, and you're and

4:24 Speaker 1: you're you're contemplating on how you might be able to

4:26 Speaker 1: approach them. But at it's at that moment that so

4:28 Speaker 1: often all those things that go on in your head

4:31 Speaker 1: that might be hindering you in some way. That's that's

4:34 Speaker 1: really one of those moments where all that comes out

4:36 Speaker 1: right where you start, uh, you know, maybe doubting yourself

4:41 Speaker 1: or you know, should I do this, Should I approach

4:43 Speaker 1: this person, or should I just watch them? I suppose

4:46 Speaker 1: in this context from the back room, right, it's those

4:49 Speaker 1: moments where where you you start really questioning yourself and

4:53 Speaker 1: doubting yourself and and and all those those things about

4:56 Speaker 1: yourself that maybe are a little different.

4:59 Speaker 2: Well, one hundred.

5:00 Speaker 3: I'm quite I'm quite a confident person, like in general,

5:03 Speaker 3: and it isn't to like you say, until them sort

5:05 Speaker 3: of situations arise, whether it be talking to someone new

5:08 Speaker 3: or like a new job or something, or going for

5:10 Speaker 3: like an interview or whatever, then you're sort of like, oh, yeah,

5:13 Speaker 3: I do have some other things going on. There is

5:15 Speaker 3: there is something going on in my head that's not

5:17 Speaker 3: just look at me all the time, you know.

5:19 Speaker 1: Right now, what's a situation with as far as playing

5:23 Speaker 1: this live? Have you been able to play this out

5:25 Speaker 1: or you're doing I don't remember what your touring situation

5:28 Speaker 1: was the last time that we talked, but are you

5:30 Speaker 1: playing a lot of shows?

5:32 Speaker 2: So I haven't actually played this one live yet.

5:34 Speaker 3: I've got a run of shows coming up in November

5:36 Speaker 3: around the UK, so I'll be doing one in Liverpool, London,

5:40 Speaker 3: Norwige and hopefully Manchester.

5:42 Speaker 2: So should have quite a busy November.

5:44 Speaker 3: And that'll be the first time this one's been taken

5:46 Speaker 3: out on the road and given a given a live spin.

5:48 Speaker 1: Oh excellent. You must be excited about that because it's

5:50 Speaker 1: got a vibe, it's gotten an energy about it, you know.

5:52 Speaker 1: I imagine it'll go over really well with the live crowd.

5:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope so, Like it's kind of one of

5:57 Speaker 3: those when it gets to the chorus where it just

5:59 Speaker 3: sort of opens up and becomes this other beast like

6:02 Speaker 3: in the verse is quite intimate and quite like personal,

6:05 Speaker 3: I guess. And then when that chorus hits in and

6:07 Speaker 3: then drums start going a bit mad and frashing on

6:10 Speaker 3: the crash symbol it starts, so yeah, like say, open up,

6:12 Speaker 3: and I hope people are getting on shoulders, throwing arms

6:15 Speaker 3: about all that sort of stuff.

6:17 Speaker 1: I like how you put that too, how it opens

6:18 Speaker 1: up in the chorus, because so much of so much

6:21 Speaker 1: of writing a great song is you know, you build

6:24 Speaker 1: tension in the verses and then the chorus is kind

6:26 Speaker 1: of almost like a relief or you know, it opens

6:29 Speaker 1: up and and this song that really is very much present.

6:32 Speaker 1: I think that concept in this song because they like,

6:34 Speaker 1: you hear the bassline in the beginning, you know that

6:37 Speaker 1: first verse, and it's very you know, it kind of

6:39 Speaker 1: makes you a little anxious, or at least it did

6:41 Speaker 1: me the first time. It was like, you know, it

6:43 Speaker 1: just there's there's an anxiety there almost in that in

6:46 Speaker 1: that bass. It's really in the baseline. I feel like

6:48 Speaker 1: that's kind of the secret to it, you know, and

6:51 Speaker 1: then you get to the chorus and it's like, Okay,

6:53 Speaker 1: it's almost like a relief a little bit. But I

6:55 Speaker 1: like that, you know, you build the tension and then

6:56 Speaker 1: you get to the chorus and it's like, okay, here

6:58 Speaker 1: we are.

6:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I love doing that as well.

7:01 Speaker 3: I'm so glad you've picked up on that, And I

7:02 Speaker 3: think most people who have listened to it have said

7:04 Speaker 3: the same thing. They're sort of like, you're getting a

7:06 Speaker 3: bit moody in these verses, mate, and then when we

7:08 Speaker 3: get to the chorus, it's like, oh.

7:09 Speaker 1: Ryan's all right.

7:10 Speaker 3: I mean he's okay, like an uplifting sound in tune, right.

7:14 Speaker 3: But I'm glad we still sort of try to do

7:17 Speaker 3: that on purpose really because I like, like you said,

7:19 Speaker 3: I like the tension and then the release you get

7:21 Speaker 3: when when the chorus kicks in.

7:23 Speaker 2: For sure.

7:24 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now are you getting the airplay with this song

7:26 Speaker 1: over there yet or what's that situation?

7:28 Speaker 3: It's been going down really well, mate, good and I

7:31 Speaker 3: think it's probably gone down the best of any of

7:33 Speaker 3: my tunes ever have done, which is amazing. Yeah, a

7:37 Speaker 3: ton of radio stations have been picking up over here,

7:39 Speaker 3: like you guys as well, absolutely backing it and I

7:41 Speaker 3: love all that.

7:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been going down really well.

7:44 Speaker 1: Oh that's outstanding. That's outstanding. And then now are these

7:49 Speaker 1: are these songs gonna be part of a full album

7:52 Speaker 1: or do you have a full album or what? What's

7:53 Speaker 1: what's the situation there?

7:56 Speaker 2: So what we're doing?

7:57 Speaker 3: The plan is, we actually came up with this on Wenesday,

8:00 Speaker 3: so we had a we had a meeting on Wednesday

8:03 Speaker 3: just me and as Are, the guy who produces my tunes,

8:05 Speaker 3: and I was like, what should we do because I'm

8:07 Speaker 3: bored of just doing singles, like you say, I'd like

8:08 Speaker 3: to build up to like an album or something like that. Yeah,

8:11 Speaker 3: So that the next song will be another single, and

8:14 Speaker 3: then after that, I'm actually gonna be doing a five

8:15 Speaker 3: track EP. Okay, yeah, so that'd be exciting. Bit more

8:19 Speaker 3: I don't know. The next single is a little bit

8:21 Speaker 3: more less moody, little bit more less moody.

8:26 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, a little bit more uplifting.

8:29 Speaker 3: The lyrical content is still quite not dark, but still

8:32 Speaker 3: quite angry, a little bit of angst in there, okay.

8:35 Speaker 3: But the song itself is a little bit more happy,

8:38 Speaker 3: I guess. And then the EP is going to be

8:40 Speaker 3: a mixture of the two, hopefully gonna sort of bring

8:42 Speaker 3: some more riffy stuff in as well, which is going

8:45 Speaker 3: to be exciting because I've not done that in a

8:46 Speaker 3: long time. But yeah, I can't wait to get going.

8:50 Speaker 1: So does that mean, so will the EP be five

8:52 Speaker 1: news songs or will the EP include the songs that

8:55 Speaker 1: you've released already?

8:56 Speaker 3: There'll be five completely brand new tunes next year, hopefully

9:00 Speaker 3: I reckon about March time if I was to put

9:02 Speaker 3: a time on it. But yeah, five completely new tunes

9:05 Speaker 3: which I've already written. I was actually finishing off the

9:06 Speaker 3: lyrics to a couple before I got on and chatted

9:09 Speaker 3: with you.

9:10 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's exciting, man, It's exciting.

9:12 Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent. So the producer that you work with has

9:15 Speaker 1: he worked with you on everything that you've recorded.

9:18 Speaker 3: So he's worked with me on tomorrow and this one,

9:22 Speaker 3: the next one, and he will be the producer going forward.

9:24 Speaker 3: I used to work with another friend of mine called

9:26 Speaker 3: Sam Wilson on my older tracks. I'm very fortunate to

9:30 Speaker 3: have a lot of very very talented friends. Yeah, because

9:33 Speaker 3: we're all from like the same background and the same

9:35 Speaker 3: like music scene. So it's really cool to be able

9:36 Speaker 3: to pull on people like that and be like, oh,

9:38 Speaker 3: come on mate, let's go down the studio and sort

9:40 Speaker 3: of t I see what we can come up with,

9:42 Speaker 3: you know.

9:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fantastic. And then so now when you play live,

9:45 Speaker 1: are you playing with a full band?

9:47 Speaker 3: So I'm hoping to be doing a full band soon,

9:50 Speaker 3: but at the moment, I've sort of doing the like

9:52 Speaker 3: acoustically on my own. I will say, if anyone's listening

9:56 Speaker 3: to this and you want to book me, I'm not

9:57 Speaker 3: on a boring acoustic artist guy who's bands in the

10:00 Speaker 3: corner and plays his song, Yeah, I'm very I'm very

10:03 Speaker 3: larger than life. Come on, then let's pretend there's a

10:06 Speaker 3: band here and let's go for it sort of thing.

10:08 Speaker 2: Nice. So yet will we do it a variety of

10:11 Speaker 2: different ways?

10:12 Speaker 3: Really, Sometimes like the guy who's produced my tune now

10:14 Speaker 3: Aaron or as he comes up on stage, me does

10:17 Speaker 3: some tunes in a duo setting to do it on

10:20 Speaker 3: my own, and then hopefully next year I'll be getting

10:22 Speaker 3: a proper live band sort now, I reckon.

10:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, excellent. Yeah, it's a lot of work.

10:28 Speaker 2: Let's tell me about it, mate.

10:29 Speaker 1: It's a lot of work putting all that together. Well,

10:32 Speaker 1: very good. So in a moment, I think we're going

10:34 Speaker 1: to and I wish, I wish we had more time.

10:37 Speaker 1: Like I said, we're running a little bit behind today,

10:39 Speaker 1: but I do want to play Tomorrow again at the

10:42 Speaker 1: end of the segment to close out, because I also

10:44 Speaker 1: love that song and I know, thank you mate, and

10:46 Speaker 1: I know we talked about that song the last time

10:49 Speaker 1: you were on. But for newer listeners who might not

10:52 Speaker 1: have heard that conversation, So Tomorrow and this is another

10:55 Speaker 1: song that I really related to in a big way

10:58 Speaker 1: because we'll tell us refresh our memories about the message

11:02 Speaker 1: behind it.

11:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, So Tomorrow is a bit of a bit of

11:06 Speaker 3: a deep one. It's about like climate change and how

11:09 Speaker 3: we're a bit scared to talk about them sort of

11:11 Speaker 3: issues still, and how I think we should still be

11:13 Speaker 3: talking We should be talking about those issues that why

11:15 Speaker 3: are we scared to talk about it? And sometimes when

11:18 Speaker 3: you bring them sort of topics up, people shy away

11:20 Speaker 3: from it or probably just like disregard you straight away

11:23 Speaker 3: because they think you're wrong. When you know it's happened

11:25 Speaker 3: in front of our eyes man to me, we got right,

11:27 Speaker 3: we'll start talking about these things.

11:29 Speaker 1: Right right exactly, Yeah, and you express that in the

11:32 Speaker 1: song and uh, yeah, it's funny we're having right now

11:37 Speaker 1: here in New Hampshire where we are in the US.

11:41 Speaker 1: We're about to have some eighty degree weather. Uh and

11:44 Speaker 1: it's October and that's pretty unusual.

11:47 Speaker 3: We got we've got a storm going on at the moment,

11:50 Speaker 3: but it's still I was like walking home earlier and

11:52 Speaker 3: it's rain and it's windy, it's cold and it's warm

11:55 Speaker 3: all at once. How was that happening?

11:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, we're in a drought. We've

12:01 Speaker 1: got eighty degree weather in October. It's it's it's wild. Then.

12:06 Speaker 1: You know, the political climate in the US, I mean,

12:08 Speaker 1: I won't get into it, but I'll just say, you know,

12:10 Speaker 1: it's it's not going to get any better as far

12:13 Speaker 1: as addressing these issues, I'll just say.

12:15 Speaker 3: That I don't think it will overhear mate, So I

12:17 Speaker 3: think we're all in the same boat.

12:19 Speaker 1: I think we are. I think we very much are well, Ryan,

12:22 Speaker 1: So we will we will close out with that track

12:24 Speaker 1: before we let you go, though, Where should people know

12:27 Speaker 1: about where to find you online? To keep up with

12:29 Speaker 1: everything that you're doing and get access to your music

12:31 Speaker 1: and all that.

12:33 Speaker 2: I'm basically available everywhere.

12:34 Speaker 3: Any social media is just at Ryan Redwood fifty eight

12:37 Speaker 3: and then Spotify is to save just Ryan Redwood or

12:39 Speaker 3: Apple Music wherever you get your chunes.

12:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, just Ryan Redwood everywhere.

12:43 Speaker 1: Fantastic, fantastic Ryan. We will do this again when the

12:46 Speaker 1: next single is out. Please you know, let us know,

12:49 Speaker 1: let people know, and we'll well, we'd love to give

12:51 Speaker 1: it another premiere, probably have you back on to talk

12:54 Speaker 1: about it. And we love what you're doing. We're big fans,

12:56 Speaker 1: so keep up the great work.

12:58 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for the support. I really

13:00 Speaker 2: do appreciate it. And yes, definitely next single, we'll be back.

13:02 Speaker 2: Let's do it.

13:03 Speaker 1: Awesome sounds good to me. All right, Ryan, We'll let

13:05 Speaker 1: you go.

13:05 Speaker 2: Thank you, take care, cheers, mate, Thank you very much.

13:08 Speaker 1: You got it all right. That is the great Ryan

13:11 Speaker 1: Redwood and we're going to close out this segment with

13:14 Speaker 1: This is the first single that we spun of Ryan's

13:16 Speaker 1: and I really love this song a lot. Pay attention

13:19 Speaker 1: to the lyrics. It does matter. This is called Tomorrow