Ryan Redwood returns with "The Back Room" | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: Such a great track. That is The back Room by Ryan Redwood and we're gonna be talking with Ryan in just a moment. Welcome everybody if you are listening live. On Saturday, October four, twenty twenty five, we have entered our number three new Marrow trace of Matt Connorton Unleashed, and we are live from the studios of w n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire and Ryan returns. We had Ryan on the show recently to talk about his first single Tomorrow that we premiered on the show, and then we played The back Room recently for the first time on American radio.

0:31 Speaker 1: Another great track, and I think Ryan is on the line with us to be a WhatsApp Hi Ryan.

0:37 Speaker 2: Hello, Matt, how you doing mate? You okay?

0:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, welcome back to the show. Thank you for being patient. I know we're running a little bit behind, but great to talk to you again. I love that song so catchy.

0:47 Speaker 2: Thank you very much mate, and thank you again for having me back home.

0:50 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely now that song. What can you tell us about that song? Because you know it sounds like it sounds like you know, a dude, a girl, you know that he's interested in and so forth. But I feel like there's some other there's some other things in there that you're kind of dealing with in the lyrics. So what can you tell us about that track? Yeah?

1:10 Speaker 3: Man, So it basically it started off it was going to be like a funny tune because me and my producer and best mate Asa, who I do everything with, write and record everything in the back room. So we like originally were like, let's write a funny sort of song about how we do everything in the back room and we never leave it and stuff. And then we sort of had the tune down, and then when I got to writing the lyrics, nothing funny came out. A lot of like things that I was probably dealing with internally sort of came out and just spilled onto the page, which I guess is what songwriting is all about, right, Yeah?

1:42 Speaker 1: Interesting? And what are some of those things that were you know, they come out in the song.

1:48 Speaker 3: I saw about like my ADHD and like how I feel like the anxiety of that sort of watches me as I'm sort of trying to make it with like music or whatever I'm doing at the time, and like how I can't really run away from it.

2:01 Speaker 2: If that makes sense.

2:02 Speaker 1: It does, it does. I think we talked about that the last time you were on the show with us too, about you know, how a lot of creative people have that ADHD and and and how it kind of uh informs what you do creatively, and how there are ways that you know it can actually be beneficial, it can it can help you to create. I think we we don't have to rehash all that because I think we talked about a lot of that last time. But it's interesting that that you kind of express that in the lyrics of the song.

2:32 Speaker 1: And again it's it's kind of like, you know, I listened to it and it's like okay, you know, and I went back and listened to it again and I was like, now there's something else going on here. It's interesting.

2:41 Speaker 2: Yeah.

2:42 Speaker 1: Yeah.

2:42 Speaker 3: I like to sort of give them sort of like it's like a double meaning, I guess, because it's cool to have other people say, oh, this feels like this to me or I think it means this sort of thing, and then to have that like conversation like someone like yourself as well, and be able to be like, well, I when I wrote it, I meant this, but obviously you can interpret how how interpret sorry, however you want to. Really like that's I think that's the best bit about music really is that lyrics can mean anything to anyone, right.

3:07 Speaker 1: Right, right? Absolutely. What's also kind of fun, right it's it's a it's an adventure when you when you have an idea for a song and you and you embark on creating that and then it ends up being something different than what you had originally in mind. I mean, that's that there's something kind of satisfying about that, right when you because when you are able to surprise yourself as a songwriter and you go, oh, I didn't I didn't know this was gonna happen, but this is cool. I like this.

3:35 Speaker 3: You know, well that's literally what happened, like when it happened. And I had all these lyrics sort of written down, so I sort sometimes I start from like a line, or i'd write like a paragraph how I'm feeling or whatever. But and then I sat there and sort of reflected once the song was finished, and was like, what are these lyrics actually about?

3:52 Speaker 1: Yeah?

3:52 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, it's actually about my mental health. Actually, I didn't really know what it was about when we recorded it and when I wrote the lyrics as such. It wasn't until a week later when when I've got the master's back and I was like, oh, yeah, it's about that.

4:05 Speaker 1: Well. It's interesting that when you when you're in a situation where you know, maybe you see someone who you find attractive and you're and you're contemplating. It's funny our our guests that we had on in the first hour of the show today, he had a he had a song that was kind of about that, and you're and you're you're contemplating on how you might be able to approach them. But at it's at that moment that so often all those things that go on in your head that might be hindering you in some way.

4:33 Speaker 1: That's that's really one of those moments where all that comes out right where you start, uh, you know, maybe doubting yourself or you know, should I do this, Should I approach this person, or should I just watch them? I suppose in this context from the back room, right, it's those moments where where you you start really questioning yourself and doubting yourself and and and all those those things about yourself that maybe are a little different.

4:59 Speaker 2: Well, one hundred.

5:00 Speaker 3: I'm quite I'm quite a confident person, like in general, and it isn't to like you say, until them sort of situations arise, whether it be talking to someone new or like a new job or something, or going for like an interview or whatever, then you're sort of like, oh, yeah, I do have some other things going on. There is there is something going on in my head that's not just look at me all the time, you know.

5:19 Speaker 1: Right now, what's a situation with as far as playing this live? Have you been able to play this out or you're doing I don't remember what your touring situation was the last time that we talked, but are you playing a lot of shows?

5:32 Speaker 2: So I haven't actually played this one live yet.

5:34 Speaker 3: I've got a run of shows coming up in November around the UK, so I'll be doing one in Liverpool, London, Norwige and hopefully Manchester.

5:42 Speaker 2: So should have quite a busy November.

5:44 Speaker 3: And that'll be the first time this one's been taken out on the road and given a given a live spin.

5:48 Speaker 1: Oh excellent. You must be excited about that because it's got a vibe, it's gotten an energy about it, you know. I imagine it'll go over really well with the live crowd.

5:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope so, Like it's kind of one of those when it gets to the chorus where it just sort of opens up and becomes this other beast like in the verse is quite intimate and quite like personal, I guess. And then when that chorus hits in and then drums start going a bit mad and frashing on the crash symbol it starts, so yeah, like say, open up, and I hope people are getting on shoulders, throwing arms about all that sort of stuff.

6:17 Speaker 1: I like how you put that too, how it opens up in the chorus, because so much of so much of writing a great song is you know, you build tension in the verses and then the chorus is kind of almost like a relief or you know, it opens up and and this song that really is very much present. I think that concept in this song because they like, you hear the bassline in the beginning, you know that first verse, and it's very you know, it kind of makes you a little anxious, or at least it did me the first time.

6:42 Speaker 1: It was like, you know, it just there's there's an anxiety there almost in that in that bass. It's really in the baseline. I feel like that's kind of the secret to it, you know, and then you get to the chorus and it's like, Okay, it's almost like a relief a little bit. But I like that, you know, you build the tension and then you get to the chorus and it's like, okay, here we are.

6:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I love doing that as well.

7:01 Speaker 3: I'm so glad you've picked up on that, And I think most people who have listened to it have said the same thing. They're sort of like, you're getting a bit moody in these verses, mate, and then when we get to the chorus, it's like, oh.

7:09 Speaker 1: Ryan's all right.

7:10 Speaker 3: I mean he's okay, like an uplifting sound in tune, right. But I'm glad we still sort of try to do that on purpose really because I like, like you said, I like the tension and then the release you get when when the chorus kicks in.

7:23 Speaker 2: For sure.

7:24 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now are you getting the airplay with this song over there yet or what's that situation?

7:28 Speaker 3: It's been going down really well, mate, good and I think it's probably gone down the best of any of my tunes ever have done, which is amazing. Yeah, a ton of radio stations have been picking up over here, like you guys as well, absolutely backing it and I love all that.

7:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been going down really well.

7:44 Speaker 1: Oh that's outstanding. That's outstanding. And then now are these are these songs gonna be part of a full album or do you have a full album or what? What's what's the situation there?

7:56 Speaker 2: So what we're doing?

7:57 Speaker 3: The plan is, we actually came up with this on Wenesday, so we had a we had a meeting on Wednesday just me and as Are, the guy who produces my tunes, and I was like, what should we do because I'm bored of just doing singles, like you say, I'd like to build up to like an album or something like that. Yeah, So that the next song will be another single, and then after that, I'm actually gonna be doing a five track EP. Okay, yeah, so that'd be exciting. Bit more I don't know. The next single is a little bit more less moody, little bit more less moody.

8:26 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, a little bit more uplifting.

8:29 Speaker 3: The lyrical content is still quite not dark, but still quite angry, a little bit of angst in there, okay. But the song itself is a little bit more happy, I guess. And then the EP is going to be a mixture of the two, hopefully gonna sort of bring some more riffy stuff in as well, which is going to be exciting because I've not done that in a long time. But yeah, I can't wait to get going.

8:50 Speaker 1: So does that mean, so will the EP be five news songs or will the EP include the songs that you've released already?

8:56 Speaker 3: There'll be five completely brand new tunes next year, hopefully I reckon about March time if I was to put a time on it. But yeah, five completely new tunes which I've already written. I was actually finishing off the lyrics to a couple before I got on and chatted with you.

9:10 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's exciting, man, It's exciting.

9:12 Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent. So the producer that you work with has he worked with you on everything that you've recorded.

9:18 Speaker 3: So he's worked with me on tomorrow and this one, the next one, and he will be the producer going forward. I used to work with another friend of mine called Sam Wilson on my older tracks. I'm very fortunate to have a lot of very very talented friends. Yeah, because we're all from like the same background and the same like music scene. So it's really cool to be able to pull on people like that and be like, oh, come on mate, let's go down the studio and sort of t I see what we can come up with, you know.

9:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fantastic. And then so now when you play live, are you playing with a full band?

9:47 Speaker 3: So I'm hoping to be doing a full band soon, but at the moment, I've sort of doing the like acoustically on my own. I will say, if anyone's listening to this and you want to book me, I'm not on a boring acoustic artist guy who's bands in the corner and plays his song, Yeah, I'm very I'm very larger than life. Come on, then let's pretend there's a band here and let's go for it sort of thing.

10:08 Speaker 2: Nice. So yet will we do it a variety of different ways?

10:12 Speaker 3: Really, Sometimes like the guy who's produced my tune now Aaron or as he comes up on stage, me does some tunes in a duo setting to do it on my own, and then hopefully next year I'll be getting a proper live band sort now, I reckon.

10:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, excellent. Yeah, it's a lot of work.

10:28 Speaker 2: Let's tell me about it, mate.

10:29 Speaker 1: It's a lot of work putting all that together. Well, very good. So in a moment, I think we're going to and I wish, I wish we had more time. Like I said, we're running a little bit behind today, but I do want to play Tomorrow again at the end of the segment to close out, because I also love that song and I know, thank you mate, and I know we talked about that song the last time you were on. But for newer listeners who might not have heard that conversation, So Tomorrow and this is another song that I really related to in a big way because we'll tell us refresh our memories about the message behind it.

11:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, So Tomorrow is a bit of a bit of a deep one. It's about like climate change and how we're a bit scared to talk about them sort of issues still, and how I think we should still be talking We should be talking about those issues that why are we scared to talk about it? And sometimes when you bring them sort of topics up, people shy away from it or probably just like disregard you straight away because they think you're wrong. When you know it's happened in front of our eyes man to me, we got right, we'll start talking about these things.

11:29 Speaker 1: Right right exactly, Yeah, and you express that in the song and uh, yeah, it's funny we're having right now here in New Hampshire where we are in the US. We're about to have some eighty degree weather. Uh and it's October and that's pretty unusual.

11:47 Speaker 3: We got we've got a storm going on at the moment, but it's still I was like walking home earlier and it's rain and it's windy, it's cold and it's warm all at once. How was that happening?

11:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, we're in a drought. We've got eighty degree weather in October. It's it's it's wild. Then. You know, the political climate in the US, I mean, I won't get into it, but I'll just say, you know, it's it's not going to get any better as far as addressing these issues, I'll just say.

12:15 Speaker 3: That I don't think it will overhear mate, So I think we're all in the same boat.

12:19 Speaker 1: I think we are. I think we very much are well, Ryan, So we will we will close out with that track before we let you go, though, Where should people know about where to find you online? To keep up with everything that you're doing and get access to your music and all that.

12:33 Speaker 2: I'm basically available everywhere.

12:34 Speaker 3: Any social media is just at Ryan Redwood fifty eight and then Spotify is to save just Ryan Redwood or Apple Music wherever you get your chunes.

12:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, just Ryan Redwood everywhere.

12:43 Speaker 1: Fantastic, fantastic Ryan. We will do this again when the next single is out. Please you know, let us know, let people know, and we'll well, we'd love to give it another premiere, probably have you back on to talk about it. And we love what you're doing. We're big fans, so keep up the great work.

12:58 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for the support. I really do appreciate it. And yes, definitely next single, we'll be back. Let's do it.

13:03 Speaker 1: Awesome sounds good to me. All right, Ryan, We'll let you go.

13:05 Speaker 2: Thank you, take care, cheers, mate, Thank you very much.

13:08 Speaker 1: You got it all right. That is the great Ryan Redwood and we're going to close out this segment with This is the first single that we spun of Ryan's and I really love this song a lot. Pay attention to the lyrics. It does matter. This is called Tomorrow