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10:10 Speaker 14: I will be hearing those sounds in my nightmares. That's

10:14 Speaker 14: pretty epic though. I love that that track is called

10:17 Speaker 14: Fates Mirrored, and that is from the band Questing Beast

10:21 Speaker 14: and we had Questing Beast on in the first hour

10:23 Speaker 14: today we played some of their music and had a

10:26 Speaker 14: great conversation with Shane and Jane, and of course in

10:30 Speaker 14: the second hour we had Temple Mountain here with us

10:32 Speaker 14: live in studio. Great conversation with him and he played

10:35 Speaker 14: a bunch of songs live for us. This is Matt

10:38 Speaker 14: Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of

10:41 Speaker 14: WMNH ninety five point three FM, Inglorious, Manchester, New Hampshire.

10:45 Speaker 14: Today is Saturday, October nineteen, twenty twenty four. Welcome if

10:51 Speaker 14: you are listening live on Saturday. So here's what's going on.

10:55 Speaker 14: We are supposed to have guests in the third hour,

10:58 Speaker 14: a couple of guys from the band Dead by Wednesday.

11:01 Speaker 14: They've got a brand new single and I don't know

11:06 Speaker 14: exactly where they are in their trip here. My understanding

11:11 Speaker 14: is Jenny messaged me they are on their way. The

11:13 Speaker 14: problem is they got stuck in the I didn't know

11:16 Speaker 14: it was today, but the Hartford You know, they're from

11:18 Speaker 14: Connecticut and apparently today is the Hartford Marathon and that

11:24 Speaker 14: delayed them and set them back time wise. So hopefully

11:26 Speaker 14: they're able to still get here. Jenny had said they're

11:29 Speaker 14: running thirty minutes behind, so that would put them here

11:32 Speaker 14: by eleven thirty if that, If that holds up, so

11:36 Speaker 14: hopefully we'll still be able to have them. Really looking

11:39 Speaker 14: forward to talking to these guys. I haven't seen any

11:42 Speaker 14: of the members of Dead by Wednesday in probably fifteen years.

11:46 Speaker 14: It's been a long time. So we'll see what happens.

11:50 Speaker 14: I do want to and you know, whether they make

11:52 Speaker 14: it here or not. I will play the new single.

11:56 Speaker 14: It's not a world radio premiere. It has been on

11:58 Speaker 14: the radio apparently, but but they they did a cover

12:03 Speaker 14: of No Easy Way Out by Robert Tepper. I think

12:06 Speaker 14: that's the original artist, same Robert Tepper from Oh geez,

12:12 Speaker 14: what movie is that from? It's It's It's one of

12:13 Speaker 14: the Rocky movies. It's not the first Rocky movie, though,

12:17 Speaker 14: I forget which one it's from. Anyway, they did a

12:20 Speaker 14: cover of that Ain't No Easy Way that song, and

12:24 Speaker 14: it's really good. I listened to it. They sent it

12:26 Speaker 14: to me to play on the show today and I

12:29 Speaker 14: listened to it like five times in a row. I

12:31 Speaker 14: loved it so much, so very very cool. So we'll

12:34 Speaker 14: see what happens. Hopefully they're able to get here, uh,

12:37 Speaker 14: and we'll we'll love to talk with them. We might

12:39 Speaker 14: only have a diminished segment with them. Unfortunately it is

12:43 Speaker 14: a live show and we end promptly at noon. But

12:48 Speaker 14: we'll see, we'll see. But uh yeah, but I'll play

12:52 Speaker 14: the track regardless. I mean, even if it looks like,

12:53 Speaker 14: you know, if it's close to the end of the

12:55 Speaker 14: show and they're not here, I'll go ahead and play

12:57 Speaker 14: it because I do want to share it with you.

12:58 Speaker 14: And like I said, I know they're trying to get here.

13:01 Speaker 14: But yeah, so here we are on this Saturday morning.

13:05 Speaker 14: Let me circle back to talking about Questing Beast though

13:08 Speaker 14: for a moment, and then I do have another subject.

13:11 Speaker 14: We can use a music industry topic, which is what

13:14 Speaker 14: we end up doing when you know, if something happens

13:17 Speaker 14: with the guests, if they're not able to get here,

13:19 Speaker 14: or if there's a delay, we'll talk about something going

13:22 Speaker 14: on in the music industry, because we know a lot

13:23 Speaker 14: of people in the industry listen to the show, and

13:25 Speaker 14: a lot of our listeners are musicians, and there's always

13:29 Speaker 14: interesting things happening in the music industry, that's for sure.

13:31 Speaker 14: But let me mention again. So big show tonight, Big

13:36 Speaker 14: Halloween show at Terminus in Nashua, Terminus Underground in Nashua,

13:42 Speaker 14: New Hampshire, Questing Beast. Let's see if I can do

13:45 Speaker 14: this for memory. Because it's a big show. There's a

13:46 Speaker 14: lot of bands, Questing Beast, Able Blood, the Gray Curtain,

13:52 Speaker 14: the Nagans, Dead, Harrison of course, and who am I forgetting?

13:58 Speaker 14: I think I'm leaving somebody out Horror. That's it. Yeah,

14:03 Speaker 14: because last week it was last week, right, it becomes

14:05 Speaker 14: a blur. Last week we had three of the bands

14:07 Speaker 14: that are playing tonight on the show. It was fantastic.

14:10 Speaker 14: We had a Horror and Able Blood love those guys

14:13 Speaker 14: and the Gray Curtain. And so this week we had

14:20 Speaker 14: a Questing Beasts. But they're going to be opening the

14:23 Speaker 14: show tonight. Doors open at five pm. It's a long

14:26 Speaker 14: show because it's a big show, lots of bands. I

14:28 Speaker 14: believe it's a twenty dollars admission, So get there. One

14:32 Speaker 14: thirty four Haines Street in Nashua, New Hampshire, Terminus Underground.

14:35 Speaker 14: It's an amazing place. You should definitely check it out.

14:38 Speaker 14: By the way, as long as I'm talking about it,

14:40 Speaker 14: I'll just forgive me if this is a little self indulgent,

14:45 Speaker 14: but Terminus Underground is of course part of the Midnight

14:49 Speaker 14: Creatives Collective in Nashua, the Great Place, and actually Eleanor

14:53 Speaker 14: and Spelfe I know are going to be They're booked

14:55 Speaker 14: to make a return appearance here on Matt Connorton Unleashed

14:58 Speaker 14: very soon. Last time they were here, Andre Dumont of

15:01 Speaker 14: course was with them as well. They're all from the

15:03 Speaker 14: Midnight Creatives Collective and of course Andre plays in the

15:07 Speaker 14: band Dead Harrison. But they also have a business bar

15:10 Speaker 14: there and for listeners who might not know this, I'm

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15:19 Speaker 14: business bar at the Midnight Creatives Collective is now one

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15:25 Speaker 14: actually book a session with me only on Mondays and

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15:47 Speaker 14: so there are many options. You can go to Matt

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15:52 Speaker 14: interested in that. But I'm very happy to be a

15:54 Speaker 14: part of the Midnight Creatives collective at the Business Bar

15:56 Speaker 14: every Monday and Tuesday. Like I said, book a session

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16:03 Speaker 14: All the information is there. All the information is there

16:05 Speaker 14: at Matt Connerson dot com. Okay, shameless plug but no.

16:08 Speaker 14: But it is a great place and they're they're doing

16:10 Speaker 14: great things there and great for the community, not just

16:13 Speaker 14: not just the local community and the city of Nashua,

16:15 Speaker 14: but of course for the music scene. A lot of

16:18 Speaker 14: local talent there also national touring acts. You know, when

16:23 Speaker 14: we had Green Jello or Green Jelly, I never know

16:26 Speaker 14: which to call them on the show, Uh not too

16:29 Speaker 14: too long ago. Jenny helped get that in motion, getting

16:32 Speaker 14: them booked at UH at Terminus, so that was fantastic.

16:36 Speaker 14: So so they're doing a lot of great things there.

16:39 Speaker 14: Let's see. So if you are just joining us, if

16:41 Speaker 14: you're looking for dead by Wednesday, they have been delayed

16:43 Speaker 14: in traffic because of the Hartford Marathon. I'd say, I'd

16:49 Speaker 14: say damn you Hartford, but I can't because it's the

16:52 Speaker 14: city of my birth. I was actually born in Hartford, Connecticut.

16:54 Speaker 14: So anyway, uh, let's do this. So I mentioned, you know,

17:03 Speaker 14: there's always things going on in the music industry that

17:05 Speaker 14: we can talk about, and I just realized where that

17:10 Speaker 14: buzzing was coming from.

17:11 Speaker 5: I apologize.

17:12 Speaker 14: There's always things, interesting things going on that we can

17:14 Speaker 14: talk about, and we always have something we I'd like

17:16 Speaker 14: to keep something kind of in my back pocket in

17:18 Speaker 14: case something like this happens with a guests, especially as

17:20 Speaker 14: we move into cold and flu season, these things will happen.

17:25 Speaker 14: There's a story involving the Pretenders rock legends. The Pretenders.

17:31 Speaker 14: They've been around for decades and decades, of course, and

17:35 Speaker 14: there's a little bit of controversy around the band now,

17:38 Speaker 14: and it's by the way, it seems like these days

17:41 Speaker 14: controversy in the music industry. It stems from well, either

17:45 Speaker 14: either AI related issues, which is what we talk about

17:47 Speaker 14: a lot, or issues in terms of the live touring business.

17:50 Speaker 14: We've done a couple of segments on the Oasis tour

17:53 Speaker 14: and some of the issues around that, and then of

17:55 Speaker 14: course there's the limp biscuit lawsuit for two hundred million

17:58 Speaker 14: dollars against UMG Universal Music Group, and I thought about

18:04 Speaker 14: maybe talking about that today and maybe, you know, maybe

18:07 Speaker 14: we will if the guys from Dead by Wednesday don't

18:10 Speaker 14: get here, you know, maybe we'll go to that after

18:11 Speaker 14: we finished talking about this. But so the Pretenders, they

18:17 Speaker 14: they have done something controversial, but it has nothing to

18:21 Speaker 14: do with ticket prices or the availability of tickets and

18:25 Speaker 14: all that goes wrong there. This is what's going on

18:28 Speaker 14: with the Pretenders. And I think this is interesting, and

18:31 Speaker 14: this is from what website is this americansongwriter dot com.

18:35 Speaker 14: And I don't know how far we'll get into this

18:37 Speaker 14: because the guys could arrive at any time, but the

18:39 Speaker 14: Pretenders are dividing fans over new live music policy. So

18:45 Speaker 14: here's what it says. With decades long career, With a

18:50 Speaker 14: decades long career under their belt, the Pretenders are no

18:53 Speaker 14: strangers to the dynamics of live performances. But in October

18:57 Speaker 14: twenty twenty four, shakeup prompted by frontwoman Chris has left

19:01 Speaker 14: many wondering if she's lost touch with the proper relationship

19:04 Speaker 14: between fans and musicians. Hind made her announcement ahead of

19:08 Speaker 14: The Pretender's October sixteen performance at Usher Hall in Edinburgh, Scotland,

19:16 Speaker 14: and in true online fashion, the Internet seems wholly divided

19:18 Speaker 14: over whether Hine's comments were just or unfounded by the way,

19:22 Speaker 14: I intentionally avoided pre reading this, So I'm learning about

19:26 Speaker 14: this with you if you're not already aware of it,

19:28 Speaker 14: because I want to give you my unvarnished, shall we say,

19:32 Speaker 14: gut reaction to this. So it says here. The Pretender's

19:36 Speaker 14: embarked on an almost exclusively sold out tour of the

19:39 Speaker 14: UK in October. Stops include Oxford, Bristol, Portsmouth in London,

19:44 Speaker 14: among other large cities cities. But just before the band

19:47 Speaker 14: made their way to Scotland's capital to perform at Usher Hall,

19:53 Speaker 14: Chrissy Hind shared a message on social media that angered

19:56 Speaker 14: many fans, and here's what she said. Quote. First of all,

20:00 Speaker 14: everyone who's come to see our shows, we're in the

20:02 Speaker 14: home stretch of this year's tour and it's been a

20:05 Speaker 14: real pleasure. Fantastic cities and fantastic audiences. We've had a

20:09 Speaker 14: great time playing for you. One thing we feel obliged

20:12 Speaker 14: to explain when we go on tour. The whole point

20:14 Speaker 14: is for the band. The whole point of it for

20:17 Speaker 14: the band is that we are playing to a different

20:19 Speaker 14: audience every night. That's why we go on tour. So

20:22 Speaker 14: if we're in Edinburgh like we are tonight, we look

20:25 Speaker 14: forward to seeing local faces. This is what makes it

20:28 Speaker 14: new for us every night. We appreciate those of you

20:30 Speaker 14: who follow us and buy tickets for multiple nights, So

20:33 Speaker 14: please don't be offended if we request you to move

20:35 Speaker 14: out of the front row. All we are asking is

20:38 Speaker 14: that you give the local fans a chance. This is

20:42 Speaker 14: what keeps it new for us, especially after being on

20:45 Speaker 14: tour for so many months. Unquote. Okay again, I did

20:50 Speaker 14: not pre read this. I didn't know this is what

20:52 Speaker 14: this was about. My gut reaction. And by the way,

20:58 Speaker 14: I'll open the phone line too if you reaction to

21:00 Speaker 14: this six oh three two five six seven, if you'd

21:03 Speaker 14: like to chime in, or of course you can chime

21:05 Speaker 14: in in the chat room, but uh, the studio line

21:07 Speaker 14: is open six oh three two five six seven. My

21:11 Speaker 14: gut reaction to this is what are you doing? Why

21:14 Speaker 14: would you? This is weird to me for a couple

21:16 Speaker 14: of reasons. Number one, why would you go out of

21:19 Speaker 14: your way to alienate your your fans that way, your

21:24 Speaker 14: die hard fans, Because obviously, if anybody is actually going

21:29 Speaker 14: and following the band around buying tickets to multiple shows,

21:33 Speaker 14: you're only doing that unless you're a scalper. You're only

21:35 Speaker 14: doing that if you're a die hard fan. So why

21:39 Speaker 14: would you want to alienate your most dedicated fans like that.

21:43 Speaker 14: That's bizarre and I think really self sabotaging. It's really strange.

21:51 Speaker 14: Another thing that I find very odd about this is

21:54 Speaker 14: are you trying to tell me that when you're on

21:58 Speaker 14: stage and you look out at the crowd. First of all,

22:00 Speaker 14: I mean, you know the pretenders, they're I mean they've

22:02 Speaker 14: they've got to be in their seventies at least, right, Well,

22:05 Speaker 14: I shouldn't say at least. I'm sure they're not in

22:06 Speaker 14: their eighties, but they have to be in their seventies,

22:09 Speaker 14: if not late sixties. I mean, are they actually able?

22:14 Speaker 14: Like is Chrissy Hind Maybe she wears contact lenses in

22:18 Speaker 14: a correct or vision in twenty twenty. I have no idea,

22:20 Speaker 14: but I'm just saying, is she able? To actually look

22:24 Speaker 14: out at the crowd and see as she's performing, look

22:28 Speaker 14: at the faces, look at the people she sees in

22:30 Speaker 14: the front row, and look at them, see their faces

22:35 Speaker 14: clearly enough to identify, Hey, these are all the same

22:38 Speaker 14: people I saw at the previous show. And even if

22:44 Speaker 14: she can do that, I find it really hard to believe. Look,

22:48 Speaker 14: I know they're a legendary band, but is this really

22:53 Speaker 14: a problem, Like, is it actually all the same people

22:58 Speaker 14: in the front row of every show? I just find

23:01 Speaker 14: that hard to believe. Yes, there are people who will

23:05 Speaker 14: if they really love a band, if they're a die hard,

23:07 Speaker 14: if they're a super fan, they'll buy tickets and try

23:11 Speaker 14: to go to as many different shows as they can.

23:13 Speaker 14: I mean, you know, look, I'm a Kiss fan. Kiss

23:15 Speaker 14: is my favorite band of all time. I know plenty

23:17 Speaker 14: of I never did it, but I know plenty of

23:18 Speaker 14: Kiss fans who you know, when Kiss would go on tour,

23:22 Speaker 14: especially the Farewell tour, because it was in theory the

23:25 Speaker 14: last time you'd see them, right at the end of

23:26 Speaker 14: the road tour, you know, people would, people who had

23:31 Speaker 14: the money because it's expensive. You know, people would buy

23:35 Speaker 14: tickets for multiple shows and kind of follow the band

23:38 Speaker 14: you know, and of course as bands that are legendary

23:43 Speaker 14: for having those kinds of fans that would do that

23:46 Speaker 14: kind of thing, like The Grateful Dead is probably the

23:49 Speaker 14: epitome of that, right, the classic example of you know,

23:51 Speaker 14: you had all these dead heads who would actually sort

23:55 Speaker 14: of go on tour with the band, and that they

23:57 Speaker 14: would follow, and the band would go on tour, these

23:59 Speaker 14: people would follow. I don't know how anyone affords it,

24:02 Speaker 14: but how you know, would follow the band on tour

24:05 Speaker 14: and and go to all the shows and and you know,

24:08 Speaker 14: it gets to a point where the band gets to

24:10 Speaker 14: know the fans, gets to know these super fans by

24:14 Speaker 14: knows them by name, develops relationships with them because they

24:17 Speaker 14: see them so much.

24:18 Speaker 5: You know, But.

24:22 Speaker 14: Do the pretenders as they're doing these shows? Is it

24:25 Speaker 14: literally the same people in the front row. I just

24:28 Speaker 14: find that hard to believe. Isn't that a little that

24:31 Speaker 14: seems like a stretch. Again, I'm not knocking the band

24:34 Speaker 14: in terms of, you know, their place in music history

24:37 Speaker 14: and their fan base I'm sure is even in twenty

24:40 Speaker 14: twenty four. Obviously these shows are selling out, so obviously

24:43 Speaker 14: their fan base is enormous. But I find it, I

24:47 Speaker 14: just find it hard to believe that Chrissy hind is

24:51 Speaker 14: actually looking at the front row and seeing the exact

24:53 Speaker 14: same set of people every night. And even if she is,

24:56 Speaker 14: why do you wanna why do you want to do

24:58 Speaker 14: this to those people? Why do you want to talk

24:59 Speaker 14: to them that way? Why do you want to alienate them?

25:03 Speaker 14: You know, It's it's bizarre to me, And and what

25:10 Speaker 14: in her mind would make her think that this was

25:13 Speaker 14: a good idea to say this publicly and to I mean,

25:18 Speaker 14: you're chastising people. Really, it's very I mean not to

25:22 Speaker 14: sound cliche, but if this even still means anything in

25:25 Speaker 14: twenty twenty four, but it's very un rock and roll.

25:29 Speaker 14: I would say, you know, telling telling people, well, you know,

25:34 Speaker 14: if you buy a ticket, you know, I don't want

25:36 Speaker 14: I don't want to see you in the front row

25:37 Speaker 14: more than once. I mean, it's just I find this

25:41 Speaker 14: very bizarre. I find this whole thing very strange. Let's see.

25:49 Speaker 14: So here's the next part of the article. This ought

25:51 Speaker 14: to be good fans react to the band's request.

25:55 Speaker 5: Uh uh.

25:56 Speaker 14: Now, I again I did not preread this. So I'm

25:58 Speaker 14: going to make a prediction, and I'm going to predict

26:02 Speaker 14: that the reaction was not positive. But let's see, well again,

26:08 Speaker 14: if you're if you're just learning about this as I am,

26:10 Speaker 14: will learn together. But so it's not a spoiler. But

26:14 Speaker 14: I'm guessing that the that there was a bit of

26:16 Speaker 14: a negative pushback on this, okay, it says Chrissy Ian's

26:20 Speaker 14: announcement divided fans across several social media platforms. While some

26:25 Speaker 14: praised the singer and guitarists for her thoughtfulness and willingness

26:29 Speaker 14: to prioritize local crowds, others condemned the message, saying it

26:33 Speaker 14: was disrespectful to her most devoted fans. These fans, the

26:38 Speaker 14: dissentered argues, deserved top priority. By the way, let me

26:43 Speaker 14: stop there for a moment. I don't even think of

26:45 Speaker 14: it in those terms. I don't think of it in

26:46 Speaker 14: terms of who deserves Nobody deserves top priority.

26:53 Speaker 5: This is uh.

26:55 Speaker 14: You know, touring is a business operating in a free market.

26:59 Speaker 14: You know, whoever buys the tickets buys the tickets. Whoever's

27:02 Speaker 14: going to the show is going to the show. If

27:03 Speaker 14: you buy a front row ticket, you get your front

27:05 Speaker 14: row seat. That's it.

27:08 Speaker 5: There's there's no.

27:11 Speaker 14: It's not a matter of priority. It's a matter of

27:14 Speaker 14: first come, first serve. Now, I know that it's not

27:18 Speaker 14: a perfect system, and we've talked a lot on the

27:20 Speaker 14: show again with the Oasis debacle, with the tickets and

27:22 Speaker 14: the dynamic pricing, which is very controversial. I don't want

27:26 Speaker 14: to take that side street right now, but I get it.

27:29 Speaker 14: But look, it's not a matter of I mean, if

27:34 Speaker 14: you really, if you really want to quote unquote prioritize

27:39 Speaker 14: local crowds, then maybe maybe if you can, maybe you

27:45 Speaker 14: devise something. This might be too convoluted and complex, but

27:49 Speaker 14: you could do it. Devise a system where when you

27:52 Speaker 14: buy a ticket, if you show residency. Sounds like I'm

27:56 Speaker 14: talking about voting, but we don't. We don't do politics here.

27:59 Speaker 14: But if you show residency, maybe if you're buying a

28:03 Speaker 14: ticket to that local show, then you get a free

28:07 Speaker 14: meet and greet. Right, that's part of the you know,

28:11 Speaker 14: because that's a big thing now with these and I

28:13 Speaker 14: don't know if the Pretenders is doing anything like that,

28:15 Speaker 14: but you can, you know, on a lot of big

28:19 Speaker 14: tours you can buy a meet and greet package and

28:21 Speaker 14: you get to meet the band and have them sign

28:23 Speaker 14: things and say a few words to you. I don't know,

28:28 Speaker 14: I mean, you could do something like that. You could

28:30 Speaker 14: do something special. If somebody proves their local residency, they

28:33 Speaker 14: get to meet you. I don't know. I mean, if

28:34 Speaker 14: you're really that serious about this. But this is just strange.

28:37 Speaker 14: This is just strange. Okay, So here's an example. Here's

28:40 Speaker 14: some examples of some of the reactions. One angry fan

28:44 Speaker 14: posted on Facebook. Quote talk about how to kick your

28:47 Speaker 14: biggest supporters in the teeth, and I suppose you don't

28:51 Speaker 14: want your photo taken either. Get off the stage if

28:54 Speaker 14: you can't appreciate the people who have kept you there.

28:58 Speaker 14: I just found this statement really insulting. Talk about taking

29:04 Speaker 14: your biggest supporters for granted. Sorry, we're bored of your quote. Sorry,

29:09 Speaker 14: we're bored of your faces unquote Yeah, I mean again,

29:16 Speaker 14: Chrissy hind is not clearly it is not her intention

29:20 Speaker 14: to kick pretenders fans in the teeth. But she just

29:25 Speaker 14: doesn't want to have to see your teeth. You know,

29:27 Speaker 14: she doesn't want you close enough. She doesn't want to

29:29 Speaker 14: have to see your teeth on more than one night.

29:31 Speaker 14: I guess other self described uber fans stood by Heine's request. Okay,

29:37 Speaker 14: so there's an example of a supporter. One comment or

29:41 Speaker 14: said quote, It's not always about you at this point

29:45 Speaker 14: in time. It's about the band who wants to keep

29:47 Speaker 14: things fresh at the end of a long tour for

29:51 Speaker 14: the benefit of all those who attend, and for local fans,

29:55 Speaker 14: ninety nine percent of whom this is their only and

29:58 Speaker 14: maybe last chance to see the band. You don't own

30:01 Speaker 14: the band and shouldn't own the front row experience, and

30:04 Speaker 14: well done Chrissy grabbing the guts to courteously point that out. Unquote,

30:16 Speaker 14: But the commenter says here, this commenter is saying, well,

30:21 Speaker 14: you know, ninety nine percent of these people this will

30:23 Speaker 14: be their only chance to see the band, So that

30:28 Speaker 14: kind of undercuts the point, doesn't it. Okay, Dead by

30:32 Speaker 14: Wednesday is here, so I'm gonna go let them in

30:37 Speaker 14: and I'm gonna play this the new single, their cover

30:41 Speaker 14: of No Easy Way Out.

30:42 Speaker 5: Check this out.

30:43 Speaker 14: This is really good.

31:18 Speaker 10: We're out in the struggle.

31:19 Speaker 6: Boom Baby, better get that stream.

31:25 Speaker 10: I think it's a bedive her boat.

31:28 Speaker 15: How you get into the hands of beets and something

31:33 Speaker 15: going fad about some feelings never time. I'm not asking

31:40 Speaker 15: about now the jeez, I just want to know how.

31:47 Speaker 13: There's a wisy way out there's no short time out.

31:55 Speaker 13: There's a rasy way out.

31:58 Speaker 15: Jimmy, I don't wanna passify you. I don't wanna track

32:17 Speaker 15: you down.

32:19 Speaker 13: Let him being like a friend.

32:23 Speaker 5: That's a stranger, you know.

32:27 Speaker 16: B Why by y'all, Why y'all whys I house my

32:31 Speaker 16: bright I y'all by y'all wild, B's like y'all out

32:34 Speaker 16: wi wild? Why y'all bide like God?

32:38 Speaker 6: All Wow?

32:38 Speaker 11: Why y'all all?

32:42 Speaker 13: There is a way se way out. There's no show talking.

32:49 Speaker 6: There's some ways be way out.

32:53 Speaker 11: Kimmy, kid, that's.

32:57 Speaker 13: So easy, way I say, all white sky, Why I

33:01 Speaker 13: so shot down?

33:03 Speaker 6: God?

33:04 Speaker 13: So easy anyway else?

33:08 Speaker 10: Givenything can be, maybe maybe a wee can ship.

33:24 Speaker 11: We can say out we.

33:28 Speaker 10: Sn't doing doing?

33:30 Speaker 13: Then it is true.

33:33 Speaker 15: Any ford.

33:36 Speaker 10: It's something's doing a bay a bone.

33:39 Speaker 15: It's a basic time about I ask him about that change.

33:47 Speaker 11: I just want to know why.

33:51 Speaker 13: This is no easy ways out? Why I why I

33:55 Speaker 13: shot time? Toddise not wise?

34:09 Speaker 11: I why out.

34:12 Speaker 17: I go.

34:15 Speaker 6: Not wise?

34:16 Speaker 7: I not wise?

34:17 Speaker 8: I not wise?

34:18 Speaker 6: I w.

35:24 Speaker 14: Oh so good? No easy way out. You might have

35:27 Speaker 14: heard that song before. A gentleman named Robert Tepper had

35:30 Speaker 14: a hit with that in the in the eighties. But

35:33 Speaker 14: that is Dead by Wednesday and that is a brand

35:35 Speaker 14: new single and we're spinning it here. And we have

35:38 Speaker 14: two of the members from Dead by Wednesday here with

35:40 Speaker 14: us live in studio. We've got Mike and Esteban here.

35:43 Speaker 14: How are you guys?

35:44 Speaker 5: Hey An, That.

35:46 Speaker 14: Damn Hartford Marathon delayed you guys, but I'm glad.

35:48 Speaker 11: You made it.

35:49 Speaker 5: Excuse me. At the highway, I was like, oh my god,

35:53 Speaker 5: I was.

35:53 Speaker 14: Gonna I was gonna play the song regardless, like if

35:56 Speaker 14: if you if for some reason you didn't get here

35:57 Speaker 14: I was just gonna play it anyway at the end

35:58 Speaker 14: of the day. But no, that's that's really really good now. Mike,

36:02 Speaker 14: So we were talking when you were in the other

36:04 Speaker 14: So you're an original member, you've you've been here the

36:06 Speaker 14: whole time. How long when did that By Wednesday start?

36:09 Speaker 5: Probably?

36:10 Speaker 14: Oh, pull up, pull that mic up. I'm sorry, sorry,

36:13 Speaker 14: those mics are probably there, you go.

36:15 Speaker 7: Okay, So wow. I think Opus and I met probably

36:25 Speaker 7: late three. The idea conjured up around oh four and

36:30 Speaker 7: made it official two thousand and five.

36:32 Speaker 14: Okay, yeah, I thought it had been about twenty years. Yeah,

36:35 Speaker 14: wow wow, yeah, gone in the blink. Of an eye. Right,

36:38 Speaker 14: it goes, it goes quicker than we then we know

36:42 Speaker 14: that is true, and asked abound, how long have you

36:44 Speaker 14: been in the band?

36:44 Speaker 5: Now? This January will be five years, five years, five

36:47 Speaker 5: years already Mike, Yeah, I know. Wow.

36:49 Speaker 14: Does it seem longer to you or does it seem

36:51 Speaker 14: quicker like that?

36:52 Speaker 9: Yeah?

36:53 Speaker 5: Yeah, in a way, it seems longer, but then when

36:55 Speaker 5: you think back at it, you're just like it went

36:57 Speaker 5: by super fast.

36:59 Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. What went into the decision to

37:03 Speaker 14: cover this song? It's it's not I don't think I've

37:05 Speaker 14: ever heard anyone cover No Easy Way Out, but it's

37:08 Speaker 14: but I was, I always like the song as catchy

37:10 Speaker 14: as hell, and it's it sounds great, like why did

37:13 Speaker 14: you guys pick that song?

37:15 Speaker 7: You want to ticket?

37:16 Speaker 8: Uh?

37:17 Speaker 5: So Opus is a big like uh karate kid and

37:21 Speaker 5: Rocky fan, and I mean who doesn't like Rocky right right?

37:24 Speaker 11: Right?

37:25 Speaker 16: Yeah?

37:25 Speaker 5: So yeah, it was. I think it originated with Opus

37:30 Speaker 5: and Dave. Well how did how did it come about?

37:34 Speaker 7: It was Opus presented the idea and usually I say that,

37:43 Speaker 7: but I do recall when I when I watched Rocky

37:47 Speaker 7: four as a kid, I heard that song and I

37:50 Speaker 7: was like, Wow, I bet this song could take off

37:55 Speaker 7: like the previous, like Iya the Tiger, the previous, like

38:00 Speaker 7: the Rocky series, always had a hit single.

38:03 Speaker 14: Yes, yep.

38:04 Speaker 7: So I was like, Okay, this will probably it, and

38:07 Speaker 7: it never It just kind of fizzled out. So when

38:11 Speaker 7: he presented the idea, I was like possibly, yeah, and

38:15 Speaker 7: then we just kind of toyed around with it and

38:18 Speaker 7: he kept pushing it. It's like, hey, you know, try it,

38:22 Speaker 7: listen to it. Yeah, So he kept pushing it and

38:24 Speaker 7: it just morphed, you know.

38:26 Speaker 5: Well, then we jammed it that one time in the

38:29 Speaker 5: space and then we were just like, oh, it kind

38:31 Speaker 5: of really good.

38:32 Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's excellent, and it's already getting played

38:36 Speaker 14: like on serious.

38:38 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's actually been playing there I think since uh

38:42 Speaker 5: it's been a week, third or seventh, I know it's

38:46 Speaker 5: been a week. Yeah, at least a week.

38:48 Speaker 14: Yeah, excellent. I assume this is part of the live set.

38:50 Speaker 14: Now you guys playing this live.

38:52 Speaker 7: We are going to introduce it into the set in

38:55 Speaker 7: two weeks.

38:56 Speaker 14: Nice Swarmy Fast Yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent. Yeah, looking forward

39:00 Speaker 14: to Swarmy Fast and seeing you guys. It's been a

39:02 Speaker 14: long time since I've seen you guys live, so really

39:05 Speaker 14: looking forward to this.

39:06 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's we what we The last time we were

39:08 Speaker 7: on stage was May.

39:10 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, June. June, yeah, June too, June.

39:14 Speaker 7: Yeah.

39:15 Speaker 10: Yeah.

39:15 Speaker 7: So yeah, it's been a minute for us.

39:17 Speaker 15: Yeah. Yeah.

39:18 Speaker 14: And then now you've got a big in uh well

39:21 Speaker 14: next year, right, there's a big tour.

39:23 Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a tour that's happening in January, starting

39:27 Speaker 5: January seventh in Brooklyn and then ending January twelfth, I

39:32 Speaker 5: believe in Albany. And we're running with Skin Lab.

39:35 Speaker 14: Oh very good, Yeah, very good. Have you toured with

39:37 Speaker 14: them before?

39:38 Speaker 5: No, No, it's exciting. It's the first time. I mean

39:40 Speaker 5: we we've hung out with some of those dudes, like

39:42 Speaker 5: out in California, Yeah, out in Nam, but this is

39:45 Speaker 5: our first time actually jamming with him. So yeah, pretty excited.

39:48 Speaker 14: Yeah.

39:49 Speaker 7: So then we've got another run in March with Category seven. Okay,

39:54 Speaker 7: that is the new supergroup. I know John Bush is

39:59 Speaker 7: the vocalist. Oh, it's like who's who of I'm trying

40:04 Speaker 7: to pull up the members, but Jason Bittner is on drum,

40:09 Speaker 7: John Bush on vocals, and then.

40:12 Speaker 5: Uh a former member of Exodus. I believe.

40:14 Speaker 7: So, yeah, it's a it's a great lineup.

40:17 Speaker 14: I'll still look that up.

40:18 Speaker 7: We're doing a few shows in March supporting their tour.

40:22 Speaker 7: Yeah with them and ex order exorder okay, someone who else?

40:27 Speaker 7: Ex order hand of the Tribe, had of the Tribe

40:30 Speaker 7: category seven?

40:31 Speaker 14: Yeah, Oh, very good, very good. I'm curious, Mike, because

40:35 Speaker 14: you've been you've been there with Opus from the beginning.

40:38 Speaker 14: Has the has the approach changed it all over the

40:40 Speaker 14: years in terms of the of the live show or

40:43 Speaker 14: even even recording?

40:44 Speaker 5: Uh?

40:45 Speaker 14: Like you like you said, you know, with no easy

40:47 Speaker 14: way out. He had to kind of talk you into it.

40:49 Speaker 14: Like has that has that process changed over the years

40:51 Speaker 14: over twenty years.

40:51 Speaker 7: Or not really? I mean you're going to have some

40:56 Speaker 7: you know, as members change, you're I don't know, ideology,

41:01 Speaker 7: your approach to writing and performing changes, but again it

41:07 Speaker 7: kind of evolves. So you know, at the end of

41:11 Speaker 7: the day, you're three guys, four guys working together. So

41:16 Speaker 7: once you can gel, once you can communicate and get along.

41:20 Speaker 7: The music part, the composition and the creativity isn't all

41:24 Speaker 7: that It's not that.

41:25 Speaker 5: Hard, right, right?

41:28 Speaker 4: Is it?

41:28 Speaker 14: Is it challenging? When you know, because you and Opus

41:32 Speaker 14: have been, like I said, from there from the beginning,

41:35 Speaker 14: the core of it, like having all these changes over

41:37 Speaker 14: the years, is there ever a point where you go, well,

41:40 Speaker 14: you know, we've we've had we've had a lot of changes,

41:42 Speaker 14: and you know, I don't know if we can keep

41:44 Speaker 14: doing this. I mean, do you ever kind of second

41:46 Speaker 14: guess at or are you just so committed to it?

41:49 Speaker 7: The maybe the last two we're like, oh man, because

41:56 Speaker 7: we had written material, we had another album, like we

42:03 Speaker 7: had we had the timeline laid out for a year.

42:06 Speaker 7: We had like six songs in the camp like we

42:09 Speaker 7: were on a roll. And then when you have these

42:11 Speaker 7: lineup changes, then it's like, okay, well you can't use

42:15 Speaker 7: this song because you know, once you throw all that

42:19 Speaker 7: stuff into the mix, then it's like turmoil and then

42:21 Speaker 7: you gotta So the last one of those, I was like, man,

42:25 Speaker 7: you know that's tough because but again, when the right

42:29 Speaker 7: personnel is in play, then you know it you rebound quicker.

42:35 Speaker 7: But yeah, it can be you know, you're building something

42:39 Speaker 7: then all of a sudden just rpe sorry.

42:43 Speaker 14: Yeah, and then it's like again again, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah.

42:49 Speaker 14: So Estemon, how did you come to be in the band?

42:51 Speaker 14: How did you become the singer.

42:53 Speaker 5: So it was right before Covid, I believe January of

42:58 Speaker 5: twenty twenty. The band had gotten a call we were

43:02 Speaker 5: going to go on a thirty day tour and yeah,

43:05 Speaker 5: it was like four. It was a four or six weeks.

43:08 Speaker 4: It was.

43:09 Speaker 7: I think it was slated for six, but realistically there

43:13 Speaker 7: was no way it was going to be six. I

43:15 Speaker 7: didn't buy into that, but I think we had at

43:18 Speaker 7: least a solid at least three or four.

43:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was, it was, it was long. I knew

43:23 Speaker 5: we had to take like a week and a half

43:25 Speaker 5: off because they had to break into Canada and another

43:28 Speaker 5: band was going to hook up, but it was the

43:33 Speaker 5: band had gotten Slater for that and the vocalist before

43:36 Speaker 5: me had just picked up a new career.

43:39 Speaker 9: Oh.

43:40 Speaker 5: So it was like one of those things of like

43:43 Speaker 5: what do I do? Do I go on tour? Pass

43:45 Speaker 5: up the opportunity? So I mean, no, hey, I mean

43:47 Speaker 5: anybody would have taken the opportunity he did. So Yeah,

43:50 Speaker 5: and at that point I was with another band, a

43:53 Speaker 5: smaller local band, and Opus had given me a call

43:57 Speaker 5: and he was just like, hey, come down an audition,

44:00 Speaker 5: and uh, I think, what was it like? Two three

44:02 Speaker 5: days later I came down and auditioned, and then like uh,

44:07 Speaker 5: three days after that, I got the call and they

44:09 Speaker 5: were just like, hey, come aboard, Yeah, if you want

44:11 Speaker 5: to come on this tour. I'm like sweet, request the

44:14 Speaker 5: time off of work and everything. And then dune dun dub.

44:18 Speaker 4: Yeah.

44:20 Speaker 14: When you auditioned, did you know, like did you get

44:23 Speaker 14: because sometimes you know, guys will say, you know, I

44:24 Speaker 14: auditioned for the span and I just knew it felt right,

44:27 Speaker 14: like did you did you know it?

44:29 Speaker 5: Or for me if it felt really good as soon

44:32 Speaker 5: as I got there, like just the energy when we

44:35 Speaker 5: when we jammed and everything it was it felt right, yeah,

44:39 Speaker 5: fuck good.

44:40 Speaker 14: Yeah. Did you know Mike right off the bat that

44:42 Speaker 14: he was the guy?

44:43 Speaker 7: Yeah?

44:44 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I know he's sitting right next to.

44:47 Speaker 7: Put it on the spot. No I remember, I don't remember.

44:52 Speaker 7: I remember feeling like, all right, this is like a

44:54 Speaker 7: seamless transition. Yeah, like I don't remember any like I

44:59 Speaker 7: don't know. Yeah, like we clicked like that.

45:02 Speaker 14: Yeah. Yeah, And that's nice when that happens too, when

45:05 Speaker 14: you can have a scene. You know, because I've been

45:07 Speaker 14: in bands, not at the level that you guys are at,

45:09 Speaker 14: but I know, like when there's changes and it's like

45:11 Speaker 14: you know, when someone new comes in and they're just

45:13 Speaker 14: the right person right away, it's like, oh, thank god,

45:16 Speaker 14: you know this is gonna be easier then.

45:18 Speaker 7: And prior to him, we had a couple auditions. We

45:22 Speaker 7: had some you know, and like you knew within the

45:25 Speaker 7: first two minutes they're like, all right, I'll give the

45:27 Speaker 7: guy the benefit of the doubt, and then five minutes later.

45:30 Speaker 14: You're like all right, no, yeah, yeah, what like like

45:34 Speaker 14: when others would audition, like what would be the prop?

45:36 Speaker 7: Like were they just not up to the the material

45:39 Speaker 7: or we had well, we had one dude, Like I

45:44 Speaker 7: want to say, I didn't hear I didn't hear what

45:48 Speaker 7: he had done before. I think I knew he was

45:51 Speaker 7: in a band. They told me, l right, he's singing

45:52 Speaker 7: in this band, and I think I heard a song.

45:54 Speaker 7: I was like, Okay, sounds great. He comes in and

45:58 Speaker 7: I don't know, maybe he just doesn't audition well. But

46:02 Speaker 7: he was nervous. Is I don't know if I can

46:06 Speaker 7: on this. He was nervous is anything, And he to

46:13 Speaker 7: compensate for that, he had been drinking, So he shows

46:17 Speaker 7: up like freaking about alcohol nervous. Now that combination you

46:23 Speaker 7: can't sing, you know, and then it was like, look,

46:26 Speaker 7: guys like so we said, look go home, let's try

46:32 Speaker 7: this again.

46:33 Speaker 14: You to say, let's yeah, pretty generous.

46:37 Speaker 7: He came back still you know better, but no, you know,

46:43 Speaker 7: so we had like stuff like that, or people who

46:45 Speaker 7: tell you they're going to come down and then they don't,

46:49 Speaker 7: you know, stuff like that. Usually the best I found

46:51 Speaker 7: is through word of mouth or like bands who know

46:55 Speaker 7: other bands or approach other people. The way I met

46:58 Speaker 7: Opus site ipproached him and I was like, look, dude,

47:03 Speaker 7: you and I should start a band. I never met him,

47:05 Speaker 7: no kidding, Yeah, I was like, I'm a better bass

47:09 Speaker 7: player than the guy that you're playing with right now,

47:11 Speaker 7: and we need to start a band. Yeah, you know,

47:14 Speaker 7: so sometimes you gotta just like, you know, talk to people.

47:18 Speaker 14: Yeah exactly exactly. Was that intimidating because he's an intense guy,

47:23 Speaker 14: I think, I mean, from when I've met.

47:25 Speaker 7: Him, he's I was at a point, Yes, you're right,

47:29 Speaker 7: and it was. But I was at a point at

47:32 Speaker 7: the time where I was looking for something serious and

47:37 Speaker 7: all the bands that I auditioned for at the time

47:40 Speaker 7: they were not They weren't serious, they weren't on it,

47:43 Speaker 7: and he was yeah. So I was like, you know,

47:48 Speaker 7: I've got I've got nothing to lose exactly exactly. Yeah, yeah,

47:52 Speaker 7: to take it. But yeah, you're right, yeah, it's you know,

47:55 Speaker 7: he had a big mohawk, he said, so you know

48:00 Speaker 7: he you know, you know everyone. Yeah, so yeah, it

48:04 Speaker 7: was like this, who is this guy? Larger than life

48:07 Speaker 7: like personality? But you know, but yeah, you're you're.

48:15 Speaker 14: Did you saband like other bands that you've played in

48:18 Speaker 14: were they similar in terms of the you know, your

48:20 Speaker 14: vocal approach. You know, obviously it's it's intense, and did

48:26 Speaker 14: you sing that way and other bands prior to this

48:28 Speaker 14: or oh yeah, I mean my.

48:33 Speaker 6: It was.

48:33 Speaker 5: I think that was probably the I mean, it was

48:37 Speaker 5: still difficult to transition, but the easiest point of the

48:40 Speaker 5: transition was the vocal style was still the same way.

48:43 Speaker 5: I went from you know, scream singing to scream singing. Yeah,

48:46 Speaker 5: so it was pretty accommodating in those terms.

48:50 Speaker 14: Yeah. Oh, it's fascinated by that by singers who can

48:53 Speaker 14: do that. Do you do you have to do anything

48:54 Speaker 14: to kind of protect your throat? Like, do you do

48:57 Speaker 14: you have any kind of a regimen.

48:58 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, just like any other vocal list, you

49:00 Speaker 5: have to you have to watch what you do, you know,

49:04 Speaker 5: prior and post, you know, performances. You have to make

49:07 Speaker 5: sure you're hydrated, you know, tease things like that. I

49:11 Speaker 5: normally steam my face and my I take like the

49:15 Speaker 5: normal vapo steamerly use like when you're sick. So I

49:20 Speaker 5: use that and it's like an instant hydrated or my

49:23 Speaker 5: voice and like nasal passages and stuff. So I do that,

49:26 Speaker 5: and I normally drink some tea beforehand, I do some

49:29 Speaker 5: warm ups and then get into it, and then afterwards,

49:32 Speaker 5: I normally try to steam my voice, like when we're

49:34 Speaker 5: on tour especially, I try to steam my face before

49:37 Speaker 5: I go to sleep.

49:38 Speaker 14: Oh okay, sure, so if you do that before you

49:40 Speaker 14: go to sleep, when you wake up your.

49:42 Speaker 5: Yeah, a little little bit, because I mean it all

49:44 Speaker 5: depends on the the atmosphere of the club too, because

49:47 Speaker 5: they may be using steam machine fog machines. Like when

49:50 Speaker 5: we were in Europe, smoking was allowed in clubs.

49:52 Speaker 14: So that was really that was that was rough, I

49:56 Speaker 14: can imagine. Yeah.

49:57 Speaker 5: The thing is we haven't been used to it here

49:59 Speaker 5: in the twenty plus years, right, going over there, just like, oh,

50:03 Speaker 5: I forgot about that.

50:04 Speaker 7: They stuck us in the back the smoking room as

50:09 Speaker 7: our keep your gear and all your cases and everything,

50:12 Speaker 7: and you can hang out here in the smoking room.

50:16 Speaker 7: Yeah maybe a window. Horrendous rut.

50:22 Speaker 5: I mean, no fault to them, surely the.

50:25 Speaker 7: Culture we weren't prepared.

50:27 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, oh my god, I'm gonna die.

50:33 Speaker 14: By the way, where do you guys record? Does Opus?

50:36 Speaker 14: Does he have a recording studio or so he did.

50:40 Speaker 5: Or depending Like during COVID we were we were all

50:43 Speaker 5: able to individually record on our own. Yeah, so we

50:46 Speaker 5: can be able to record tracks like at home. But

50:50 Speaker 5: during COVID we did that, and then we still went

50:53 Speaker 5: in a little bit and did some in studio stuff

50:56 Speaker 5: with Nicky Belmore with Dexter's lab down in Milford, Connecticut.

51:00 Speaker 5: Oh okay, yeah, and we worked with him and most

51:03 Speaker 5: of the time we cut our tracks at home.

51:05 Speaker 11: Okay.

51:06 Speaker 7: COVID it forced us to, you know, utilize this technology

51:11 Speaker 7: that was already there. But a lot of the tracks

51:14 Speaker 7: on our last album were done like I would record

51:19 Speaker 7: my bass tracks on my computer, like while I was

51:23 Speaker 7: on vacation with my family or something, and I'd send

51:26 Speaker 7: in bass tracks for a couple songs. Did you record yours?

51:32 Speaker 5: Yeah? No, No, I mean I only recorded a few live,

51:35 Speaker 5: but most of the time I recorded them at home.

51:37 Speaker 7: Dave did some tracks at home. Yeah, so we just

51:41 Speaker 7: sent him sent the stems to Nikki. He'd mixed them

51:44 Speaker 7: together and that would be the track. But this last

51:48 Speaker 7: one no easy weigh out. He and I recorded the

51:52 Speaker 7: bass like I recorded at his place, okay, okay, and

51:56 Speaker 7: then we sent at least for the bass, and then

51:58 Speaker 7: we sent that in.

51:59 Speaker 14: Yeah.

52:00 Speaker 7: So yeah, we've been It's like, I don't know, there

52:04 Speaker 7: isn't really a There doesn't need to be a central

52:06 Speaker 7: location for everything, you know.

52:09 Speaker 14: So it's amazing, doesn't it to live in a time

52:11 Speaker 14: where we have all these technology, we can do all

52:13 Speaker 14: this stuff easy.

52:15 Speaker 2: You know.

52:15 Speaker 14: It comes up a lot on the show too, about

52:17 Speaker 14: how you know, the pandemic was terrible, but you have

52:19 Speaker 14: to find these silver linings where you can. And once

52:22 Speaker 14: big silver lining is it did kind of force people

52:24 Speaker 14: to be creative in terms of how they do things

52:28 Speaker 14: and find ways to be creative they maybe hadn't considered before.

52:31 Speaker 7: It created a new industry.

52:33 Speaker 4: You know.

52:34 Speaker 7: It's amazing, Like and people unless you grew up in

52:37 Speaker 7: an era where that was not possible. It's just to me,

52:42 Speaker 7: it's it's crazy that I can record a track that

52:45 Speaker 7: can literally like no easy way out. Like when I

52:49 Speaker 7: was recording it and when I was coming up with

52:52 Speaker 7: my base parts, you're not thinking of that. You're thinking

52:56 Speaker 7: an end process, but you're not thinking of But it's

52:58 Speaker 7: just crazy to me to record this in a house

53:02 Speaker 7: or a basement.

53:03 Speaker 16: Yeah.

53:03 Speaker 7: Have it broadcast globally, Yeah, and sound pristine.

53:07 Speaker 10: I know.

53:08 Speaker 5: Mike and I have talked about that many times, Like

53:10 Speaker 5: on tour.

53:10 Speaker 7: It's like, I love it.

53:11 Speaker 5: We have the ability to be able to record anywhere

53:14 Speaker 5: we want. Back in the day bands the lock that

53:17 Speaker 5: solves away for.

53:20 Speaker 7: Big, big artists that could afford the equipment, you.

53:23 Speaker 5: Know, yeah, exactly having an in home studio was like

53:27 Speaker 5: a super privilege at that point.

53:28 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, available to anyone.

53:30 Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, absolutely. Oh time goes quick. I wish we

53:34 Speaker 14: had more, but I want to make sure. So uh

53:39 Speaker 14: November two, it's the event is at Tafada and Lowell.

53:43 Speaker 14: It was originally supposed to be a Jewel but for

53:45 Speaker 14: anyone who doesn't know, it's at Tafia and Lowell Swarmy

53:47 Speaker 14: Fest Jenny and I will be there. Really looking forward

53:51 Speaker 14: to seeing you guys.

53:51 Speaker 5: I am so excited, Yeah, super excited, Thank you.

53:54 Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, The's gonna be a bunch of great bands there.

53:58 Speaker 14: What should people anything you want people to know about?

54:00 Speaker 14: Obviously you want them to know that the new single

54:02 Speaker 14: is out, your cover of No Easy Way Out? And

54:06 Speaker 14: what should people know else about? About what you guys

54:10 Speaker 14: are doing?

54:11 Speaker 7: Wow? Check us out on our social media feeds. We've

54:16 Speaker 7: got some shows coming up that what the uh.

54:20 Speaker 18: You got a couple of tours coming yeah, yeah, the

54:22 Speaker 18: tours with skin Lab, the skin Lab Tour, Yeah yeah,

54:25 Speaker 18: that's going to be Northeast show January seventh, Northeast Region,

54:31 Speaker 18: and our final date is January twelfth.

54:34 Speaker 5: Is that the one in Albany. That's all one in Albany.

54:37 Speaker 5: We start in Brooklyn on the seventh. We go Brooklyn,

54:42 Speaker 5: New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and then back up to Albany.

54:48 Speaker 5: So hopefully listeners out there can be able to link

54:50 Speaker 5: up with us at some point in one of those

54:52 Speaker 5: shows that I'd love to have you guys come out.

54:54 Speaker 14: Yeah, excellent, excellent, and well we'll close out with Wasteland

54:58 Speaker 14: and this you say you're an offer too. This was

55:01 Speaker 14: this one an Awarder was nominated for.

55:02 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we we were Actually we got nominated for

55:05 Speaker 5: two categories. We got nominated for New England Best Metal

55:07 Speaker 5: Band and also Best Music Video in Wasteland. This is

55:12 Speaker 5: the one we filmed out in the Mojave Desert, California

55:15 Speaker 5: for Wasteland Weekend.

55:16 Speaker 14: Oh the video is wild.

55:18 Speaker 5: It looks like that was it.

55:19 Speaker 14: I mean, was that as big a production as it

55:21 Speaker 14: looks like. I mean, it's like it's like watching a

55:23 Speaker 14: mini movie.

55:24 Speaker 5: We were we had hooked up with another festival that

55:27 Speaker 5: was happening. We're playing, yeah, and uh yeah, our videographer

55:32 Speaker 5: she you know, happened to be there. We got the

55:35 Speaker 5: permissions and the rights to be able to film and wow,

55:37 Speaker 5: everybody was with it. And it was kind of like

55:40 Speaker 5: it was the last minute, spur of the moment thing

55:42 Speaker 5: and everybody was on board. So we just ran with

55:45 Speaker 5: it and oh that's good. It just it was a

55:47 Speaker 5: per It was a happy accident. Yeah.

55:49 Speaker 14: Yeah, that's that's that's amazing. That's amazing, great job. Yeah,

55:53 Speaker 14: I recommend people check it out. The video for Wasteland.

55:55 Speaker 14: All right, we gotta go, guys, thank you so much, Thanks.

55:58 Speaker 5: So much again. Sorry for being in the little bit late,

56:00 Speaker 5: but we love you guys, and check us out and we.

56:03 Speaker 14: Will see you on November at HAFA and lolat Swarmy Fest.

56:07 Speaker 14: All right, very good, and uh if you missed any

56:09 Speaker 14: part of today's show, it'll be up in just a

56:10 Speaker 14: little bit. But we will leave you with this. Check

56:13 Speaker 14: this out. This is wasteland.

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56:35 Speaker 19: food and rising me the.

56:38 Speaker 20: Flows Simons come to really yucky.

56:48 Speaker 10: Along the lady, I'm down dog.

56:57 Speaker 20: John's way.

57:18 Speaker 5: I don't care what you're saying.

57:22 Speaker 10: That he said to me, wats on because I don't

57:30 Speaker 10: care about stuff.

57:32 Speaker 6: I s's on time that waycut sometimes.

57:34 Speaker 10: Just side that time.

57:36 Speaker 11: All this time the.

57:37 Speaker 10: Bupp set on like that.

57:39 Speaker 5: Time, best that time.

57:41 Speaker 10: That's a lot.

57:41 Speaker 1: I was washed.

57:42 Speaker 16: I had all white that right time, John, So.

57:47 Speaker 11: Why my father bah?

57:48 Speaker 6: All right?

57:49 Speaker 16: That's after five times on because I can't worry aback,

57:52 Speaker 16: wear your go right up all right now.

57:55 Speaker 10: That's all I can. I I worried about a bottle.

58:01 Speaker 6: Right now.

58:11 Speaker 17: Wave over three miles of us and shoots to the

58:20 Speaker 17: show from the returned to the Lands to us the.

58:25 Speaker 7: Land of about a beauty sounds, a few.

58:28 Speaker 10: Of the one where one together dream like that.

58:33 Speaker 5: This is not real.

58:34 Speaker 7: Fighting for.

58:37 Speaker 10: The fee, to fence.

58:40 Speaker 17: The fams, for other tod.

58:43 Speaker 6: For long

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