Matt Connarton Unleashed 10-19-24 hour 2

0:00 Speaker 1: Wm h rips, the normals, the prettiest guys I've ever seen.

0:16 Speaker 2: Oh, your lips don't move it when you blink, you

0:20 Speaker 2: show me what you mean. And I would do anything

0:30 Speaker 2: to just say it's true. So it's breathed. Look at me,

0:37 Speaker 2: I love you. Had a dream we went dancing all night.

0:50 Speaker 3: Oh I never.

0:51 Speaker 2: Danced do once before, but you My feet move right,

0:59 Speaker 2: and I would do anything to just say it's true.

1:06 Speaker 3: So it's breathe.

1:08 Speaker 2: Look at me, I love you, and that you fall asleep.

1:17 Speaker 3: I count the sheep.

1:19 Speaker 2: That's playing for your mind, and I watch your flaws

1:26 Speaker 2: hanging off your jaws, the feelings that you hide.

1:32 Speaker 3: Or your golden hair swinging inny.

1:36 Speaker 2: It's the quiet winds, subsides and your loneliness and your

1:43 Speaker 2: only and your mind.

2:24 Speaker 3: Now I see why I say you and I.

2:31 Speaker 4: On the bellies I wrote before, have you between the lines,

2:41 Speaker 4: and I would do anything.

2:45 Speaker 3: To just say I.

2:46 Speaker 2: Do so, Spree, look at me, I love you so Sprey,

2:59 Speaker 2: look at me.

3:09 Speaker 5: What a beautiful song that is called Stacy. And we

3:14 Speaker 5: have the writer and composer and singer and guitarist and

3:18 Speaker 5: from Temple Mountain is here with us live in studio.

3:22 Speaker 5: And we get that mic up. Hello, Eric, Hey, how

3:24 Speaker 5: are we doing? Let's see?

3:26 Speaker 6: How do I sound good?

3:27 Speaker 5: I'm just gonna boosome that volume a little bit.

3:32 Speaker 6: Heard.

3:32 Speaker 5: Eric's gonna play live for us this morning, so I

3:35 Speaker 5: want to make sure we can hear you. Okay, I

3:39 Speaker 5: think we're I think we're good. Yeah, congratulations that just

3:42 Speaker 5: came out. Stacy.

3:43 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's Stacy's song has been out since today, and yeah,

3:49 Speaker 7: it's the series of probably several singles that are gonna

3:51 Speaker 7: be coming in in the near future. So I have

3:54 Speaker 7: like at least seven or eight more.

3:56 Speaker 5: Okay, So has this been played on the radio before today?

4:01 Speaker 5: World Radio premiere?

4:02 Speaker 3: We love it?

4:03 Speaker 5: Excellent? Excellent? Uh so when you say it's out today,

4:06 Speaker 5: so it's on all the streaming play platforms.

4:09 Speaker 7: Yeah, and then I have a video and official video

4:12 Speaker 7: that uh I handa B photography and I filmed together

4:15 Speaker 7: that I'm going to be releasing soon too.

4:18 Speaker 5: Very good. Like how so like within the next couple

4:23 Speaker 5: of weeks.

4:23 Speaker 7: You would think with someone who's passionate, they would have

4:27 Speaker 7: a date set, but I haven't put it. We we

4:30 Speaker 7: kind of created that video so extemporaneously and very last minute.

4:33 Speaker 7: So it's done and it's ready.

4:35 Speaker 6: I could release it now, but I don't know when

4:37 Speaker 6: I want to do it.

4:38 Speaker 5: Right right, No, it makes sense. Yeah, you want to

4:40 Speaker 5: wait till the time is right. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. And

4:43 Speaker 5: so you said, so you're releasing a series of singles.

4:46 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm doing you you ever heard the Waterfall Effect?

4:49 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I've heard.

4:51 Speaker 7: I don't really want to do it because I don't

4:53 Speaker 7: like the idea of it, but it seems to everyone's

4:56 Speaker 7: just telling me to do it. So I'm like, why

4:58 Speaker 7: don't I do it this time around and then the next I.

5:00 Speaker 6: Can do with the way I want to do it.

5:01 Speaker 3: Yeah.

5:03 Speaker 7: So, yeah, I'm releasing probably every other month, I'm going

5:06 Speaker 7: to release a song.

5:07 Speaker 5: Actually, I'm going to ask you to get a little

5:08 Speaker 5: closer to that, mic. I thought it was a good distance.

5:10 Speaker 5: But yeah, So, uh, you're a previous because you have

5:15 Speaker 5: the album Schema, which we've played songs from before. So

5:20 Speaker 5: but this time, so will the singles that you're releasing

5:22 Speaker 5: will they eventually call a.

5:24 Speaker 7: Yeah, actually it's going to release. The album is going

5:26 Speaker 7: to be called Case Studies. And you had the artists

5:30 Speaker 7: who did the artwork for it on the show.

5:31 Speaker 6: Kira Curtis Oh yes, that's why we talked about that.

5:34 Speaker 7: Yeah, she did the final album artwork, and then for

5:37 Speaker 7: all the singles, I want to get local artists to

5:40 Speaker 7: kind of create the what what would you call it,

5:43 Speaker 7: the Spotify single template for it.

5:45 Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh that's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, very cool,

5:48 Speaker 5: very cool? Are these? Uh So Schema obviously kind of

5:53 Speaker 5: has a theme.

5:54 Speaker 6: Yeah, now I took that out this time.

5:56 Speaker 5: Okay.

5:57 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sure.

5:58 Speaker 7: It's in there because I think in that kind of way,

6:02 Speaker 7: but in terms of titles and overall concept, I just

6:07 Speaker 7: wanted to kind of rein free. There was I put

6:10 Speaker 7: a lot of restrictions on Schema, like there's only you know,

6:15 Speaker 7: you play guitar or correct yea, so there's only like

6:17 Speaker 7: certain shapes that I restricted myself to to create songs with.

6:21 Speaker 7: For this time around, I was like, let me experiment

6:23 Speaker 7: more of harmony and let me experiment more with just

6:27 Speaker 7: I just wanted it to be completely And I even

6:32 Speaker 7: went to like a studio this time around to like

6:34 Speaker 7: record them and act in Massachusetts.

6:37 Speaker 6: So I just wanted to try something new.

6:39 Speaker 5: Okay. So that's where Stacy was recorded.

6:41 Speaker 6: Yeah, and well Spring sounds okay. Josh is awesome. I

6:45 Speaker 6: love the guy.

6:45 Speaker 5: Now, how did you connect with him and why did

6:47 Speaker 5: you decide to work with him?

6:49 Speaker 7: I was looking at places that offered tape recording because

6:53 Speaker 7: I was because you know, why not and they don't

6:57 Speaker 7: do that. But they came up and I saw their

6:59 Speaker 7: rates and I was like, that's affordable.

7:01 Speaker 5: So so you were looking for so when you say

7:04 Speaker 5: tape recording, so you were looking for that, I.

7:06 Speaker 6: Was looking for like real to reel that.

7:09 Speaker 7: Wow, and it's it's possible. It's just then I started

7:14 Speaker 7: I get really in my head about these things. It's

7:16 Speaker 7: like would that be a cliche? Would that be a

7:18 Speaker 7: little bit of a gimmick? And so then I found

7:21 Speaker 7: them and I was like, why don't I just give

7:22 Speaker 7: this a try? And Josh, what's cool is I'm a

7:25 Speaker 7: big Elliott Smith fan. And they have the original microphones

7:30 Speaker 7: that Elliott Smith used on his Lucky three documentary, which

7:33 Speaker 7: is like the mike, it's a Newman something. I forget

7:36 Speaker 7: what they're called, but uh, okay, so just I got

7:38 Speaker 7: to record the whole album with those microphones.

7:40 Speaker 5: So kidding, Oh very cool. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

7:44 Speaker 6: I mean it meant a lot to me.

7:45 Speaker 5: That's awesome. Yeah, I am curious. Were you able to

7:49 Speaker 5: find I assume not in the area. Were you able

7:51 Speaker 5: to find a studio that does real to real when

7:54 Speaker 5: you were looking online? Yeah?

7:55 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah absolutely. And I had a friend, uh, my

7:58 Speaker 7: friend Josh. He actually has a four track set recorder,

8:02 Speaker 7: and I was thinking about doing something like that.

8:04 Speaker 6: But I don't know, it's so funny you because I

8:07 Speaker 6: was just thinking about this.

8:08 Speaker 7: I kind of want to make an album and I

8:10 Speaker 7: know saying this live on the air, like it's silly,

8:14 Speaker 7: but I want to create an album where I just

8:16 Speaker 7: record right on my iPhone because to me, the iPhone

8:19 Speaker 7: voicemail app seems to be like the new Lo Fi

8:22 Speaker 7: And I would like, what can.

8:24 Speaker 6: I do with that?

8:24 Speaker 7: And maybe I could do something kind of Nick Drake

8:27 Speaker 7: like and like do a live fingerpicking and vocal intimate

8:30 Speaker 7: stuff and like it won't sound like high professional, but

8:33 Speaker 7: that's like that's the point.

8:34 Speaker 5: Right right. Yeah.

8:37 Speaker 7: I love I love when it sounds like you're there,

8:42 Speaker 7: you know why. It's not like I love.

8:44 Speaker 6: The room noise. I love everything about that. Yeah, I

8:47 Speaker 6: love the mistakes.

8:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, how did I know? We talked about this before?

8:52 Speaker 5: But how how was schema recorded?

8:54 Speaker 7: In my in my farmhouse, just with like a simple

8:59 Speaker 7: microphone and and uh a Logic Pro and a laptop

9:04 Speaker 7: that couldn't handle Logic Pro. And then I just kind

9:08 Speaker 7: of figured it out. I mixed in myself, so I

9:10 Speaker 7: just did it by ear. I don't really know how

9:12 Speaker 7: to do compression or make uh you know EQ and

9:17 Speaker 7: you know it shows. But I'm really happy. I'm really

9:20 Speaker 7: proud of that album. Every time I listen to it,

9:21 Speaker 7: I'm always.

9:22 Speaker 6: Like, oh I still like this, Yeah, which that good?

9:25 Speaker 6: That hasn't happened before.

9:27 Speaker 8: Yeah?

9:27 Speaker 5: Really?

9:27 Speaker 3: Yeah?

9:28 Speaker 5: Have you been self critical in the past of some of.

9:30 Speaker 6: Your pre prozac Yeah?

9:32 Speaker 5: That makes sense. That makes sense. You want to play

9:37 Speaker 5: something a lot for sure?

9:40 Speaker 6: Could I play an Elliot Smith song?

9:41 Speaker 5: You can play anything you'd like?

9:43 Speaker 7: All right, this is an Elliot Smith song. It's called Angelus.

10:20 Speaker 2: Someone's always coming around here trailing some nucule said, I

10:29 Speaker 2: see in your picture on a hundred dollars bill.

10:35 Speaker 3: Taking of chance to you in the swan of real skill.

10:44 Speaker 3: So glad to meet you and just pick it up.

10:53 Speaker 2: The ticket showstairs, money to be me, go on loose

11:01 Speaker 2: that gamble that stuff history you have the trade?

11:07 Speaker 3: Did you add up all the cards left to play

11:15 Speaker 3: to zero, sign up with evil and less.

11:23 Speaker 2: Don't start me dry now, uh huh uh huh uh

11:31 Speaker 2: huh uh uh.

11:36 Speaker 3: Because I'm born over it and.

11:45 Speaker 2: I can make you satisfied with everything you do. All

11:53 Speaker 2: your secret wishes could right now home back to you.

11:59 Speaker 3: Be for with Mad Poyson around you.

12:09 Speaker 2: No one's gone fool round first, no one's gone the fool.

12:16 Speaker 3: First song that meets you angeless?

12:33 Speaker 5: Very cool? I like it. I like it.

12:36 Speaker 6: What's that called Angelus by Elliott Smith?

12:39 Speaker 5: Yeah? I like it. I don't think I've ever heard

12:41 Speaker 5: that before.

12:42 Speaker 3: That's beautiful.

12:43 Speaker 5: I mean, I've always been aware of Elliott Smith and

12:44 Speaker 5: and somewhat familiar, but I don't Uh yeah, I don't

12:47 Speaker 5: know that song. But no, I really like it.

12:49 Speaker 6: He's my hero, yea.

12:51 Speaker 5: What is it about him? Is it is? That's a

12:53 Speaker 5: great song? Is it a songwriting?

12:55 Speaker 6: Yes, it's definitely the songwriting. When I was in my

12:58 Speaker 6: senior year of high school, this really cool guy did

13:02 Speaker 6: a English project and we had to choose a song

13:05 Speaker 6: and like talk about how it has symbolic meaning. And

13:07 Speaker 6: he did a song called Between.

13:08 Speaker 7: The Bars and I just watched it and it was

13:10 Speaker 7: like everything I wanted to be. Yeah, and then that

13:15 Speaker 7: night It's so funny because it was just coincidence. I

13:18 Speaker 7: watched Goodwill Hunting and he did the music for Goodwill Hunting.

13:20 Speaker 5: Oh okay, and I was.

13:22 Speaker 6: Watching, I was listening to it. I was like, wow,

13:23 Speaker 6: this is really good.

13:24 Speaker 3: Who is it?

13:24 Speaker 7: And I looked it up at was Elliot Smith And

13:26 Speaker 7: actually is the reason I got into psychology that movie.

13:28 Speaker 6: So really yeah, so he just I don't know, his

13:32 Speaker 6: playing blows my mind, his songwriting, his voice blows mine

13:37 Speaker 6: and I love it.

13:38 Speaker 2: Yeah.

13:39 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't remember if we talked about this before,

13:42 Speaker 5: but so Goodwill Hunting is what inspired you to get

13:44 Speaker 5: into psychology.

13:45 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's this.

13:46 Speaker 7: There's a great scene in that movie where Robin Williams

13:49 Speaker 7: is talking to Matt Damon about laying bricks, and Matt

13:52 Speaker 7: Damon's like making the argument like why are we looking

13:55 Speaker 7: at laying bricks like it's a bad job.

13:57 Speaker 6: That's a noble job.

13:58 Speaker 7: There's honor in that, And it like blew my mind

14:01 Speaker 7: hearing that for the first time and seeing then Matt

14:04 Speaker 7: have a kind of breakthrough.

14:06 Speaker 6: It was like, I want to I want to experience

14:08 Speaker 6: that in my lifetime.

14:09 Speaker 4: Oh.

14:09 Speaker 5: Interesting, yeah. The Uh if this sounds familiar to you,

14:14 Speaker 5: then we did talk about this before. But your friend

14:17 Speaker 5: my dad has told me that people have told him

14:21 Speaker 5: that the Robin Williams character reminds that reminds them of him.

14:25 Speaker 6: Oh really, yeah, I know. Yeah, but you're a hypnotist, correct, Yes?

14:29 Speaker 6: Have you do you find that?

14:31 Speaker 7: Because hypnotism can create incredible change in a person, is

14:35 Speaker 7: there like a breakthrough moment? Would you say, like, can

14:38 Speaker 7: a person realize there I don't like using the word cured,

14:41 Speaker 7: but when they realized that a problem can maybe get

14:44 Speaker 7: diminished or fixed.

14:45 Speaker 5: Yeah.

14:46 Speaker 7: Do you experience that yourself or is it more outside

14:49 Speaker 7: the office where they notice that.

14:51 Speaker 5: I'll well, I'll tell you this. It's a great question

14:54 Speaker 5: because sometimes during a session, at the end of it,

14:58 Speaker 5: they're different, Like, not everybody, but sometimes they are, Like

15:03 Speaker 5: I can see the subtle differences even in just how

15:06 Speaker 5: they like their facial expressions, Like they exude a confidence

15:11 Speaker 5: and a sense of empowerment that clearly was not there

15:14 Speaker 5: before the sex. Cool. Yeah, and it is. I do

15:17 Speaker 5: love that. I guess such a rush for that's you know.

15:20 Speaker 5: I like to think I have certain skill sets, I'm

15:22 Speaker 5: good at something, I think I'm okay at hosting a

15:23 Speaker 5: talk show. I'm good for some good at that. But

15:25 Speaker 5: the one thing I really love is hypnotherapy.

15:27 Speaker 3: Really.

15:28 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what's cool about hitting the therapy too

15:29 Speaker 7: is and people don't talk about this, but hypnotherapy is

15:32 Speaker 7: the reason why psychoanalysis and therapy exists because Freud saw

15:35 Speaker 7: hypnotherapy and was fascinated by it.

15:37 Speaker 5: Yeah.

15:38 Speaker 7: So, like it's such an important part of mental health

15:42 Speaker 7: that we don't talk about a lot. It's diminished a

15:45 Speaker 7: little bit, it's coming back and its diminished, it goes

15:46 Speaker 7: in waves. Sometimes it's used as a party trick, and

15:48 Speaker 7: it's like it's not just that it's it's a form

15:52 Speaker 7: of behavioral therapy.

15:54 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, oh absolutely absolutely, No, I love I love

15:57 Speaker 5: helping people with it. I do uh, I do a

16:00 Speaker 5: visualization while they're in a state of hypnosis where I

16:02 Speaker 5: have them imagine they're the ideal version of themselves, the

16:06 Speaker 5: version of themselves that they most want to be. Oh wow,

16:08 Speaker 5: And yeah, people seem to really get a lot out

16:11 Speaker 5: of that, you know. But yeah, and so you now

16:15 Speaker 5: are you where are you in your career with with

16:19 Speaker 5: psycho psychology.

16:20 Speaker 6: Ye, I'm in my third semester of grad school.

16:23 Speaker 5: Excellent.

16:23 Speaker 7: I'm actually in my counseling skills class that I adore.

16:26 Speaker 6: I've been a.

16:27 Speaker 7: Case manager since the beginning, but I'm really looking forward

16:31 Speaker 7: to internship. I love case management, but I'm really looking

16:35 Speaker 7: forward to internship because i want to be in the

16:37 Speaker 7: office and you know, just reading up on Yalam and

16:40 Speaker 7: reading up on.

16:43 Speaker 6: Carl Rogers.

16:44 Speaker 7: I think the therapy that I'm interested in the most

16:46 Speaker 7: is Rogarian therapy and like existential therapy.

16:50 Speaker 6: So I'm still trying and a little bit of solution focused.

16:52 Speaker 6: There's some that's in there.

16:53 Speaker 7: But yeah, I just I'm I got about another year

16:57 Speaker 7: and a half until i am.

17:00 Speaker 6: That's like part of my life.

17:02 Speaker 7: Yeah, cool, very exciting, cant and done days.

17:06 Speaker 5: That's that's excellent. Do you think do you think your

17:08 Speaker 5: music will change when you when you get to that point?

17:11 Speaker 6: How so, like I don't know, like do you.

17:12 Speaker 5: Think because obviously you know you have these things in mind,

17:16 Speaker 5: like with schema, you have these things in mind as

17:18 Speaker 5: you're writing these songs. I mean, do you think it'll

17:20 Speaker 5: do you think it will change your perspective at all

17:22 Speaker 5: in terms of how you actually approach your music.

17:24 Speaker 7: I think where I get my most happiness from is

17:26 Speaker 7: playing live. And I mean I've been busy with the

17:30 Speaker 7: music stuff and it's been like two three hour shows

17:33 Speaker 7: playing at bars, playing like you know, can't help falling

17:36 Speaker 7: in love with Elves or hate Jude by the Beatles,

17:39 Speaker 7: And I find a lack of arcists in that, and.

17:43 Speaker 6: I don't. I think the image.

17:46 Speaker 7: That I'm kind of portraying right in front of you

17:48 Speaker 7: right now is kind of what I want to continue doing.

17:50 Speaker 2: Yeah.

17:50 Speaker 7: See, at one point I was singing about do I

17:52 Speaker 7: want a band or nine? That's like that sounds so expensive?

17:55 Speaker 9: So right right, So in a lot of ways, yeah, yeah,

18:00 Speaker 9: I think I want to find a healthy balance like

18:03 Speaker 9: and sounds silly, but almost like the Batman thing, you know.

18:05 Speaker 7: By day I do I see patients and I see

18:09 Speaker 7: clients and I help the best I can, and I

18:12 Speaker 7: grow and build relationships. And at night I play music

18:16 Speaker 7: and I grow and build relationships. So yeah, that's and

18:18 Speaker 7: then you know, somewhere in between that also, I'm I'm

18:21 Speaker 7: a happy husband and father, So to me, that sounds

18:26 Speaker 7: like the ideal life for me.

18:28 Speaker 5: Yeah.

18:28 Speaker 6: Yeah.

18:29 Speaker 5: Do you think people overlook the benefit the psychological benefits

18:35 Speaker 5: of music, like do you think the It's funny because

18:39 Speaker 5: I've never really thought about it before from this angle,

18:41 Speaker 5: but as we're talking to a personally, like, you know,

18:44 Speaker 5: music in and of itself is such great therapy, even

18:46 Speaker 5: just listening to it, you know, it can really affect

18:48 Speaker 5: how you feel. And but sometimes I wonder if people don't.

18:54 Speaker 5: I mean a lot of people do, even if they

18:55 Speaker 5: just don't realize it necessarily consciously. But I think music

19:00 Speaker 5: itself is kind of overlooked in that it can so

19:04 Speaker 5: so much influence how we feel, how we feel about ourselves,

19:09 Speaker 5: and and but it can also be sabotaging, and I

19:11 Speaker 5: feel too exactly. Yeah, something I've never understood about people

19:16 Speaker 5: is why. I mean, I I do get it, but

19:20 Speaker 5: I but I it's not my instinct to do this

19:23 Speaker 5: when someone is sad and they want to listen to

19:26 Speaker 5: sad songs because they feel sad. And I've always been

19:30 Speaker 5: from my entire from when I was a kid, when

19:32 Speaker 5: I was a little kid. If I'm sad, the last

19:35 Speaker 5: thing I want to do is listen to sad music.

19:37 Speaker 5: I want to listen to something that's going to change

19:39 Speaker 5: my state of mind.

19:41 Speaker 6: I think the thing that is actually maybe maybe not

19:45 Speaker 6: maybe I'm getting a tangential. But the thing that's more

19:47 Speaker 6: interesting to me is.

19:48 Speaker 7: Music you can develop an identity with. You know, if

19:52 Speaker 7: there's a banana across the room, I'm not going to

19:54 Speaker 7: have an identity with that banana. I'm not gonna go like, oh, yeah,

19:57 Speaker 7: that's my favorite type of banana. It's from New Zealand

19:59 Speaker 7: or something like that. You know, I don't know if

20:01 Speaker 7: New Zealand grows bananas, but yeah, you know, with music,

20:06 Speaker 7: it can get really idiolating because there can be times

20:09 Speaker 7: where I've had moments where music is my best friend

20:13 Speaker 7: on certain days, and there's certain days where it's just like,

20:15 Speaker 7: oh my god, I've listened to Room for Squares by

20:18 Speaker 7: John Mayer NonStop for a week and then I have

20:21 Speaker 7: an identity crisis. Yeah, so that part doesn't get taught

20:25 Speaker 7: bad enough, where, especially if you're into the arts and

20:27 Speaker 7: you pursue the arts, you have moments of imposter syndrome

20:31 Speaker 7: and identity crisis. And yes, music can be your best

20:35 Speaker 7: friend at the end of the day. And I think

20:37 Speaker 7: Smells Like Teen Spirit is one of the greatest songs

20:39 Speaker 7: of all time, but after listening to it two thousand times,

20:43 Speaker 7: when I listen to it now, it's like, I know

20:45 Speaker 7: what happens on second forty five.

20:46 Speaker 6: I can't listen to that song anymore, you know.

20:49 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's a it's a balance, and

20:52 Speaker 7: I'm always trying. The other hard thing I want to

20:55 Speaker 7: say is discovering new music for me is really difficult.

20:59 Speaker 6: I try really hard.

21:00 Speaker 7: I look for stuff, and it's just there's something going

21:03 Speaker 7: on where my brain's like, nah, keep going. And when

21:07 Speaker 7: I do find somebody, like right now it's been hip hop,

21:09 Speaker 7: I'm like obsessed with just like we were talking about

21:12 Speaker 7: before the show, making, like beat making and stuff like that. Yeah,

21:16 Speaker 7: that's fine. It's like, finally here's that energetic high I've

21:20 Speaker 7: been looking for.

21:21 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. So but so you so you

21:27 Speaker 5: have a hard time though, finding new music that you like.

21:30 Speaker 7: Especially with acoustic music, because usually when people recommend me

21:34 Speaker 7: acoustic stuff that it would make sense that I should

21:37 Speaker 7: like it, but it just doesn't hit me. Like A

21:39 Speaker 7: good example is Bonaver, very talented musician. People who love Boneaver.

21:43 Speaker 7: You have great taste. I'm not here to try and

21:45 Speaker 7: question that. And then when it comes to my ears

21:47 Speaker 7: and I process it, it's like this isn't for me.

21:49 Speaker 7: It's just not hitting it. I've I don't Maybe the

21:53 Speaker 7: maybe the problem is.

21:55 Speaker 6: I don't actually know what I want.

21:57 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I don't actually have my taste well defined

22:00 Speaker 7: yet in my head?

22:02 Speaker 5: Well does it? Is it also possible that the production

22:04 Speaker 5: is bothering you because because yeah, because you know, you're

22:09 Speaker 5: a low fi guy.

22:10 Speaker 7: But I love again, I love smells like teen Spirit,

22:12 Speaker 7: which is the exact opposite of that. So it's like

22:14 Speaker 7: it depends on the context of the music itself.

22:17 Speaker 5: But even smells like teen Spirit, the production is different

22:20 Speaker 5: than what like now, everything is so compressed.

22:22 Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, the only.

22:24 Speaker 5: People I feel really get it right is uh. I'm

22:28 Speaker 5: not a big country guy, but I gotta say, from

22:30 Speaker 5: a production standpoint, Nashville has it down.

22:33 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah.

22:34 Speaker 5: The drums always sound great.

22:36 Speaker 7: You know, this is where it sounds like I almost

22:38 Speaker 7: don't want to come across as like a double like

22:40 Speaker 7: I'm here I making double standards. But like, for example,

22:43 Speaker 7: like my friend sent me a song by an artist

22:46 Speaker 7: called Dare the songs called Girls Don't Play. It's very raunchy.

22:50 Speaker 7: I love that song. Yeah, it's awesome. I love I

22:53 Speaker 7: love when that stuff is incorporated into like dance music

22:55 Speaker 7: and stuff like that, it's like yes, but when it's incorporated,

22:59 Speaker 7: it's like the acoustic guitar.

23:00 Speaker 6: And I hear an acoustic guitar, especially.

23:02 Speaker 7: Like like maybe controversible, and I hear guitar that has

23:05 Speaker 7: like Elixir strings on it. For those who know what

23:07 Speaker 7: Elexa strings are, they're coded strings. It's like an immediate

23:11 Speaker 7: turnoff from my ears.

23:12 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like it. It sounds too clean.

23:14 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I want to make it clear, like I

23:17 Speaker 7: don't think that this should be the standard for anyone

23:20 Speaker 7: by any means, like because I'm not the best guitar

23:23 Speaker 7: player of all time.

23:23 Speaker 6: I'm not the best songwriter of all time.

23:24 Speaker 3: I'm not.

23:25 Speaker 7: It's nothing like that. It's just for what I look

23:27 Speaker 7: for to help me grow as a musician. I put

23:30 Speaker 7: these kind of things on a pedestal.

23:32 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense. If

23:35 Speaker 5: you are just joining us, Temple Mountain is here with

23:37 Speaker 5: us alive in studio, and you want.

23:39 Speaker 6: To play another one, Sure, I'll actually play.

23:42 Speaker 7: Because you played Stacy song earlier, I'll played the next

23:44 Speaker 7: single I'm probably gonna release after that. Oh cool, And

23:47 Speaker 7: I'm probably gonna mess it.

23:48 Speaker 5: Up, So that's okay.

23:49 Speaker 6: Ever, only live.

23:50 Speaker 5: It's an original and we won't know very good.

23:53 Speaker 6: It's called grateful, all right.

24:14 Speaker 2: Choice of girl is so profound, different shades of black

24:20 Speaker 2: and gray. And you're say in the world is round,

24:27 Speaker 2: but I'd seen in different ways, and I've noticed you're

24:32 Speaker 2: holding my soul. Good, say with a breadth, Fay, it's

24:36 Speaker 2: only one way. Oh, it's all right, say that I

24:42 Speaker 2: need you so grateful, that meant you this way, waiting

24:54 Speaker 2: for the moon to bloom.

24:58 Speaker 3: I watch the way it starts. My heart is only

25:03 Speaker 3: sat on you. So now I thank you for today.

25:10 Speaker 2: And remember you told me the whole day the world

25:15 Speaker 2: can be the friend each day. Oh, it's all right

25:20 Speaker 2: to say that I need you so grateful to met.

25:24 Speaker 3: You sway stand behind again, backs our face and then.

25:35 Speaker 2: With voices all around, but we never made a sound.

25:43 Speaker 2: All Your story is so profound. Now you choose to

25:48 Speaker 2: live each day and it's never up or down.

25:56 Speaker 3: It's not a side that leans your way.

26:00 Speaker 2: Member, you told me to say for the world, as

26:05 Speaker 2: asked you this say. Oh it's all right to say

26:10 Speaker 2: that I needs you so grateful the mech you its way.

26:17 Speaker 3: Oh, it's all al.

26:19 Speaker 2: Right to say that I need you so grateful the

26:23 Speaker 2: met you today.

26:30 Speaker 5: Beautiful beautiful Temple Mountain Live and studio. Well that's so

26:35 Speaker 5: that's gonna be the next single.

26:36 Speaker 6: Yeah I think so. Yeah, yeah, probably in December.

26:40 Speaker 5: Very good, very good? Is it? Is it difficult to

26:43 Speaker 5: choose what to what to go with next because obviously

26:45 Speaker 5: you've written a lot of songs.

26:47 Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, and no, I just kind of do it,

26:52 Speaker 7: but yeah, I don't put too much thought into it,

26:55 Speaker 7: Like the this sounds silly, but like I'm just so

27:00 Speaker 7: I know social media is important. ID even think you

27:01 Speaker 7: were just talking about that with the last artist, how

27:03 Speaker 7: important it is on so or maybe that was yesterday.

27:05 Speaker 7: The social media is just so important to do as

27:07 Speaker 7: an artist. But I just don't see it as important.

27:12 Speaker 7: You know, if I wanted to, I can pay twenty

27:14 Speaker 7: bucks and get like fifty fake likes on my Facebook account, right,

27:19 Speaker 7: So like it's artificial, like it's all controlled. Like it's

27:24 Speaker 7: not the same as when I go live and I

27:25 Speaker 7: play a song with someone and connect with them and

27:28 Speaker 7: they come up to me after the show and say, hey,

27:29 Speaker 7: that was really cool. Even if it's just one person,

27:32 Speaker 7: that means way more to me, so.

27:34 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't put too much thought. I do allow

27:36 Speaker 6: the releasing and stuff like that just so I can

27:38 Speaker 6: get gigs.

27:39 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Jenny was just reminding me

27:42 Speaker 5: too online.

27:43 Speaker 6: Do you teach now, Oh, you don't teach music.

27:46 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's what she meant.

27:48 Speaker 6: No, no, okay, I'm not much of a teacher.

27:50 Speaker 5: It's unfortunately thinking of somebody else. Yeah, now you uh,

27:55 Speaker 5: you did mention earlier. Sometimes you think about, you know,

27:58 Speaker 5: playing in a band or getting a band together. I mean,

28:01 Speaker 5: how how how seriously do you do you think about that?

28:04 Speaker 5: Is it possible in the future or is it something

28:05 Speaker 5: that you kind of dismissed when it pops into your head?

28:08 Speaker 7: Or I got a telecaster recently, so oh yeah, telecasts

28:12 Speaker 7: and a jazz chort Sam. Because I really like the

28:13 Speaker 7: sound of it, I think about it. It's just I

28:18 Speaker 7: don't know. I don't know how to do it. If

28:20 Speaker 7: if I don't think, I would want to search for

28:23 Speaker 7: it like I would if it happens naturally. That's how

28:26 Speaker 7: I'd be down for it, because I don't want to

28:28 Speaker 7: have like Temple Mountain, then I control the music and

28:31 Speaker 7: everything like that. I want it would be cool if

28:34 Speaker 7: it was something like Queen, where it's like I write songs,

28:36 Speaker 7: bass player write songs, and drummer writes songs and we

28:39 Speaker 7: just appreciate each.

28:40 Speaker 6: Other's songwriting together and we could all sing. That would

28:43 Speaker 6: be awesome.

28:44 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, were you in a band before?

28:47 Speaker 6: Growing up?

28:48 Speaker 7: I was in a death metal band, Oh you were, yeah,

28:51 Speaker 7: called The Story of Anatomy in New York, but we

28:55 Speaker 7: didn't do anything. Yeah, and then I played I was

28:58 Speaker 7: Eric Phillip in New York City.

29:00 Speaker 6: And then because that's.

29:01 Speaker 7: My middle name, okay, and that just didn't go very well.

29:05 Speaker 7: And then this this has been really taking off. It's

29:07 Speaker 7: been crazy.

29:08 Speaker 5: And tell us again, how did you become Temple Mountain?

29:11 Speaker 7: Well, I live in Peterborough, which is right off and

29:14 Speaker 7: I live off a temple mountain.

29:15 Speaker 6: And then, you know, when you're starting to.

29:18 Speaker 7: Be a licensed therapist, you you learn a lot about

29:20 Speaker 7: both boundaries and confidentiality, and I think it's important that

29:25 Speaker 7: you know, I want to keep this life separate.

29:27 Speaker 6: So it's it's like I said earlier, it's kind of

29:29 Speaker 6: like my batman.

29:30 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, that makes sense. And uh,

29:34 Speaker 5: by the way, are you married now?

29:35 Speaker 3: No?

29:36 Speaker 5: Not yet? Oh not yeah, no, there. Okay, yeah, very good?

29:42 Speaker 6: Wait, very good?

29:42 Speaker 5: Is Stacy's song? Is that about your It is early?

29:46 Speaker 7: Yeah?

29:47 Speaker 5: Excellent. Yeah. I think I think she was in the

29:49 Speaker 5: chat room last time you were on with Yeah.

29:51 Speaker 6: She she works for Kobe Sawyer and today is homecoming,

29:56 Speaker 6: so she had to leave work for work today at

29:59 Speaker 6: like six am.

29:59 Speaker 7: She just doing a lot of stuff. So yeah, we're

30:01 Speaker 7: not going to be seeing each other until tomorrow. Probably

30:04 Speaker 7: not in the chat room today, gotcha. And if she is,

30:07 Speaker 7: then Kobe Sawyer should think about that because she's not

30:09 Speaker 7: doing her job.

30:13 Speaker 5: Well do you want to uh? Oh yeah, we got time.

30:15 Speaker 5: You want to play another one?

30:16 Speaker 6: For sure?

30:17 Speaker 8: Sure?

30:17 Speaker 5: If you are just joining us, A Temple Mountain is

30:19 Speaker 5: here with us live in studio, and we should tell

30:22 Speaker 5: people to Last night you were on Granded State of

30:24 Speaker 5: Mind with Rob as a veto. Yeah, so if you

30:26 Speaker 5: want to check that out too, that is of course

30:28 Speaker 5: up on the site WM Andhradio dot Org.

30:32 Speaker 6: Shout to Rob.

30:33 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Rob doing amazing things. You've you've played at

30:36 Speaker 5: Pembroke City Limits.

30:37 Speaker 6: So yeah, I played the Nirvana night there?

30:39 Speaker 5: Oh did you Yeah?

30:39 Speaker 6: It was incredible?

30:40 Speaker 5: What song did you do?

30:42 Speaker 3: Oh?

30:43 Speaker 6: Uh? I think I played on I'm on a Plane.

30:48 Speaker 5: Oh okay, yeah that's yeah.

30:50 Speaker 7: Yeah, I did that, and then I played something in

30:51 Speaker 7: the way I meant. So what happened was I went

30:53 Speaker 7: in there going to play something in the way, and

30:55 Speaker 7: then like the day before, he asked.

30:57 Speaker 6: Me if I could play I think it was I'm

30:59 Speaker 6: on a Plane. Oh.

31:01 Speaker 7: I was just like yeah, okay, and so I had

31:04 Speaker 7: to kind of figure it out. And I remember I

31:08 Speaker 7: drove there like two hours earlier. I learned the song

31:10 Speaker 7: like two hours before the show, and no kidding, Yeah,

31:12 Speaker 7: I was so nervous and like it kept blanking because

31:14 Speaker 7: I kept going through the lyrics in my head. And

31:15 Speaker 7: then once you're on stage, something just kind of happens, yeah,

31:18 Speaker 7: and it all comes back to you.

31:19 Speaker 5: Yeah.

31:19 Speaker 7: So I got lucky. It was a good shime and

31:22 Speaker 7: I met so many cool people that night. That was

31:24 Speaker 7: the best part about that show, kid, Yeah, because here

31:26 Speaker 7: you just playing bar gigs, you're always by yourself. You

31:28 Speaker 7: don't get to really see other artist because you're always overlapping.

31:31 Speaker 7: Rob did something gray where he got all these people

31:33 Speaker 7: coming together.

31:34 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, for those who don't know what we're talking about.

31:36 Speaker 5: So it was a show where everybody everybody played just

31:40 Speaker 5: just one right, just one Nirvana song?

31:42 Speaker 2: Yeah?

31:42 Speaker 5: Two? Yeah, yeah. Do you know how many performers there

31:47 Speaker 5: were that night?

31:47 Speaker 6: Total must have been close to seven or eight, no kidding. Yeah,

31:51 Speaker 6: I met Ben. Do you know Ben Harris?

31:53 Speaker 3: No?

31:55 Speaker 5: I heard him on Rob's show a couple of weeks ago.

31:57 Speaker 6: Yeah, saw such a nice guy. So we met.

32:00 Speaker 7: We were speaking online already, and then we met from

32:02 Speaker 7: the show, and then he invited me to play at

32:04 Speaker 7: Panucci's Conquered, So like, we need more shows like that. Yeah,

32:08 Speaker 7: it's a great artist like to help artists. So yes,

32:11 Speaker 7: I really appreciate Rob.

32:13 Speaker 3: For doing that.

32:13 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, that's awesome. Yeah. Check out Pembroke City

32:16 Speaker 5: Limits if you haven't been there, it's a it's a

32:18 Speaker 5: great place. Rob's doing great things there. And uh, all right,

32:22 Speaker 5: you were gonna play and I totally derailed you.

32:24 Speaker 6: No, you're fine, But.

32:26 Speaker 5: Devile Mountain is here with us live in studio, and

32:28 Speaker 5: what are you gonna play for us?

32:30 Speaker 6: This is a song off Schema.

32:32 Speaker 7: It's called Stages of Attachment and with a name like that,

32:35 Speaker 7: you would never guess, but it's about my cat.

32:37 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, all right, very good.

32:40 Speaker 8: So let's see you try to wake me up, assuming

32:59 Speaker 8: I should rise, So pull my.

33:03 Speaker 3: Blanket up and stay here for a while. All just

33:09 Speaker 3: fell for.

33:10 Speaker 2: You and simple life you like you could break off

33:17 Speaker 2: the rules. Love you all the time. You're just a

33:23 Speaker 2: little thing sheltered by these walls.

33:29 Speaker 3: See his life for gaunt eyes, little ginger parts. It's

33:36 Speaker 3: just a little thing. Your heart is.

33:40 Speaker 2: Pure and true, bringing love to you all. You mean

33:46 Speaker 2: everything you do. I remember the day, all the morning drive,

33:56 Speaker 2: seven are in the room and you with us, a guy, how.

34:02 Speaker 3: Your wells just came to me and family did rise.

34:09 Speaker 2: And home you fell asleep, pouder powder cry. It's just

34:17 Speaker 2: a little thing sheltered by these walls.

34:23 Speaker 3: Seems like through gold and eyes, a little ginger pards.

34:30 Speaker 3: You're just a little thing. Your heart is pure and true.

34:36 Speaker 3: Bring in love to you all.

34:38 Speaker 2: You mean everything you do. When I get home, it's hello,

34:46 Speaker 2: not goodbye. And when I leave tomorrow you'll always try

34:53 Speaker 2: and cry. You walk your sister up zooming, she play,

35:02 Speaker 2: but you know when she's fed up with all your

35:06 Speaker 2: silling games.

35:09 Speaker 3: And the world around you know.

35:11 Speaker 2: How it makes me want to cry, But you know

35:16 Speaker 2: I'll never frown. As you lay by my side, You're

35:23 Speaker 2: just a little thing. You sto bout these walls.

35:30 Speaker 3: He see his life through gold eyes, Little Ginger Paus,

35:36 Speaker 3: You're just a little thing.

35:39 Speaker 2: Your heart is pure and true, bringing love to you all.

35:44 Speaker 3: You mean and everything you do.

35:49 Speaker 2: Bringing love to you all you mean and everything you do.

36:06 Speaker 5: Very cool, Thank you.

36:08 Speaker 6: What's that called stages of attachment?

36:09 Speaker 5: Stages of attachment? Yes, yes, Jenny and I have two

36:12 Speaker 5: cats and we love them very much. So I find

36:15 Speaker 5: that song very relatable.

36:16 Speaker 6: Oh I appreciate that.

36:17 Speaker 7: Yeah you don't, do you know Dylan Patrick Ward? Does

36:20 Speaker 7: that name sound familiar?

36:21 Speaker 5: Sounds familiar.

36:22 Speaker 6: It's a local songwriter from Vermont.

36:23 Speaker 7: He has a song called the Cat's Song, and when

36:25 Speaker 7: I heard it, I was like, oh, you can write

36:27 Speaker 7: about your cats.

36:30 Speaker 6: That was the inspiration.

36:31 Speaker 5: We had a recently, well a couple months ago, we

36:34 Speaker 5: had the band Turbo Cats. I played with them.

36:35 Speaker 6: Oh okay, yeah, I played with that show at Terminus.

36:38 Speaker 7: Oh right, so funny, Oh yeah, yeah, god they cracked

36:42 Speaker 7: like in a great way. Yeah awesome, And it was

36:44 Speaker 7: just like they were so seriously like this next song

36:47 Speaker 7: is called licking your Leg.

36:49 Speaker 6: Or something like that. It was brilliant.

36:52 Speaker 5: They have that song. My senior lady cat, which because

36:55 Speaker 5: we have a female cat that's you know, getting up there,

36:58 Speaker 5: so we could relate to that.

37:00 Speaker 6: It's really trendy right now to sing about your cat.

37:02 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think it's a great thing. Some people

37:05 Speaker 5: really don't like cats, and uh yeah, I don't get that.

37:08 Speaker 5: I think I think those people have some sort of

37:10 Speaker 5: psychological issue. Yet you could not love cats?

37:14 Speaker 7: Well, just how can you not love any animal? Right,

37:16 Speaker 7: besides a wasp because they hurt?

37:19 Speaker 5: Well, it's not an animal, right, that's an insect.

37:21 Speaker 6: Is an insect not an animal?

37:22 Speaker 5: Or I don't think so. But then but then, uh

37:26 Speaker 5: we were talking about.

37:27 Speaker 6: This on a on a Friday night on a Cereal

37:29 Speaker 6: of Soup.

37:30 Speaker 5: I'm a co host on Retrospect Radio with poly C

37:32 Speaker 5: and Paul was saying that ants actually technically are animals,

37:35 Speaker 5: not insects. And it freaked me out because when I

37:38 Speaker 5: was a kid, my friends and I would light ants

37:40 Speaker 5: on fire in the summertime with a lighter and uh,

37:44 Speaker 5: now I feel terrible about it. I didn't care when

37:46 Speaker 5: I thought they were insects.

37:47 Speaker 6: You know, they're pre their their pre the size of their.

37:52 Speaker 7: Brains alone, for the for who what the size of

37:55 Speaker 7: them as an animal is alone like enough to be like, wow,

37:58 Speaker 7: these are very impressive creatures.

38:00 Speaker 6: Cats are Yeah, pre frontal cortexes are he really?

38:03 Speaker 5: Is that true?

38:04 Speaker 2: Yeah?

38:04 Speaker 5: See now I feel really bad?

38:05 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah yeah. Wow how old are you?

38:08 Speaker 5: Oh? I was probably like ten oh yeah times past

38:11 Speaker 5: yeah yeah, I mean I would.

38:12 Speaker 6: Probably done way worse since then.

38:14 Speaker 5: Oh definitely. Oh yeah, you have no idea of course

38:19 Speaker 5: if you are just joining us on this Saturday morning,

38:21 Speaker 5: Temple Mountain is here with us live in studio. Are

38:25 Speaker 5: you playing a lot? You're playing pretty consistently.

38:27 Speaker 7: Yeah, I have a show later today, and then this

38:30 Speaker 7: month I was playing a lot. September I played probably

38:33 Speaker 7: like close to twenty shows. Oh kidding, yeah, next month

38:36 Speaker 7: I have probably I think I'm at fifteen right now.

38:39 Speaker 7: I'm trying to get more. So yeah, it's gonna taper

38:43 Speaker 7: down by the new year, but it's slowly growing back.

38:45 Speaker 6: And yeah, I love I have. Two weeks ago, I

38:49 Speaker 6: played three three hour shows.

38:52 Speaker 7: In one day and wow, that was an incredible accomplishment

38:55 Speaker 7: on my end that I was really proud of and

38:57 Speaker 7: I always wanted to because Billy Shean of the ban

39:00 Speaker 7: Talis said that he once did three shows and one day,

39:02 Speaker 7: I was like, I could do that.

39:04 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I was. It was a nice kind of

39:08 Speaker 6: yeah farces.

39:08 Speaker 5: Three three hour shows.

39:10 Speaker 7: Yeah, I couldn't sing for a little bit after that one.

39:12 Speaker 7: It was had a great time.

39:13 Speaker 5: How did that even happen?

39:15 Speaker 6: Like how do you my own it's my own stupidity.

39:18 Speaker 7: I just keep saying yes, yeah, yes, and then I'll

39:21 Speaker 7: be like so that. That was a crazy day too,

39:23 Speaker 7: because I had to go my first gig was in

39:25 Speaker 7: Where's Beach and then I had to drive to Manchester

39:28 Speaker 7: to play at Great North, and then I had to

39:30 Speaker 7: go to Foundry and play the Foundry. So and Great

39:33 Speaker 7: North was such a shout out to Jesse by the

39:36 Speaker 7: way for that gig. Yes, And I'm glad I brought

39:39 Speaker 7: that up because I want to apologize to Jesse because

39:41 Speaker 7: Jesse asked me to like check if my songs were

39:45 Speaker 7: gonna be a part of B M I or something

39:47 Speaker 7: like that and just didn't have time.

39:48 Speaker 6: He did it for me.

39:49 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was very nice of him, but like I

39:51 Speaker 7: had to change my whole setlist around.

39:53 Speaker 6: And it turned out it was a great show, but

39:54 Speaker 6: it was it was so funny.

39:56 Speaker 7: I was like, so can I I was gonna play

39:57 Speaker 7: like Dave Matthews, Like you can't play Dave Matthews.

40:01 Speaker 6: That was such a great gig though I had. I

40:03 Speaker 6: loved that place.

40:04 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and the beer was amazing, yes, yes, yeah.

40:08 Speaker 5: Jenny and I stopped in there recently because it was

40:10 Speaker 5: Jesse's birthday and she's a she's a proud mama. Yeah yeah,

40:14 Speaker 5: so yeah, and he you know, he's been on the

40:16 Speaker 5: show a bunch of times too. Oh yeah, sounding really good, wicked, talented,

40:20 Speaker 5: really good. Absolutely, but that that's not something usually run

40:24 Speaker 5: into though, right at a venue where they you know,

40:26 Speaker 5: because of the music rights, where that kind of gets something.

40:28 Speaker 5: I mean, if you run into that before.

40:31 Speaker 7: I did at not when I was playing music. I

40:34 Speaker 7: used to be a butcher, and they took the music

40:36 Speaker 7: there very seriously because they were worried.

40:39 Speaker 6: I get it. Yeah, like it is. It's it's not

40:42 Speaker 6: the venue's fault or anything like that.

40:44 Speaker 5: It's right.

40:44 Speaker 6: The way the music industry works is you gotta be careful.

40:46 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

40:48 Speaker 6: I kind of like when stuff like that happens, Like

40:50 Speaker 6: if you.

40:51 Speaker 7: Have like a two hour set or three hour set

40:53 Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden you have to remove

40:55 Speaker 7: twenty songs and figure it out.

40:56 Speaker 6: Like it's kind of fun.

40:58 Speaker 5: It's a challenge.

40:59 Speaker 6: I love it.

40:59 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good. Good, good attitude to

41:02 Speaker 5: have about it, certainly. Yeah. Yeah. I've just over the years,

41:06 Speaker 5: I've heard stories of like BMI and ASCAP, like actually

41:11 Speaker 5: it's it sounds like you wouldn't think it would really happen,

41:16 Speaker 5: but like sending undercover agents, yeah, into places to see.

41:20 Speaker 7: If they're I remember when piracy was big, and like

41:23 Speaker 7: there was like those stories of kids getting like sued

41:26 Speaker 7: because they downloaded the Titanic, and that actually happened.

41:28 Speaker 6: Yeah, it sued for lots of money. It's like these

41:30 Speaker 6: are kids, oh.

41:31 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's wild. It's wild. Yeah. And there

41:36 Speaker 5: used to be uh years ago, there was a place

41:38 Speaker 5: in Conquered called the Cafe Eclipse, and they got into

41:41 Speaker 5: some kind of trouble and they.

41:42 Speaker 6: Just that's a great name.

41:43 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, it was a cool place. I played there

41:47 Speaker 5: a lot back in the day. But they had to

41:49 Speaker 5: make a rule just no covers because they had gotten

41:51 Speaker 5: in trouble and they'd been threatened by I don't know

41:53 Speaker 5: if it was ASCAP, BMI, or it might have been

41:56 Speaker 5: Sea Sack, because I remember the guy telling me, and

41:58 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, that's what I'm not familiar with.

42:00 Speaker 7: I believe I'm playing a gig in March. It's a

42:03 Speaker 7: place that I've been wanting to get. It's hard to

42:05 Speaker 7: get the gig. It's like a two year out gig.

42:06 Speaker 7: It's called Stage thirty three. It's in Bellow Falls, Vermont. Yeah,

42:09 Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure. That's part of the rules is I

42:11 Speaker 7: can't play any covers because they don't have any licensing agreements,

42:14 Speaker 7: so it's all gonna be originals. For like, it's like

42:16 Speaker 7: a forty minute set of original which is fine, hayahy

42:18 Speaker 7: to do that. Yeah, if anything, it's refreshing. Yeah, there's

42:22 Speaker 7: not many listening rooms. That's the It's not a fault

42:24 Speaker 7: of New Hampshire, but it's the hardest thing in New

42:26 Speaker 7: Hampshire is there's not many listening rooms.

42:28 Speaker 5: Right, yeah, right, no, I agree. When you when you

42:33 Speaker 5: play covers, do you mix in any originals?

42:35 Speaker 3: Yeah?

42:36 Speaker 7: Always, yeah, yeah, you gotta and they usually, you know,

42:40 Speaker 7: usually people want to hear it too. And my covers vary,

42:45 Speaker 7: Like I play John Mayor Dave Matthews Shehr, but I

42:47 Speaker 7: also play Britney Spears.

42:49 Speaker 6: I play I do. I do.

42:52 Speaker 7: Wow, that was almost very uh braggadocios. I do a

42:56 Speaker 7: cover of Cake by the Ocean that I really like.

43:00 Speaker 7: I just I do things that I want to hear. Yeah,

43:03 Speaker 7: I want to listen to you know what I mean?

43:05 Speaker 7: And it's yeah, it's just so. Then if you incorporate

43:08 Speaker 7: those and I base my set lists on where I

43:10 Speaker 7: have to place the capo.

43:11 Speaker 6: Oh that makes sense.

43:12 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, like if I do all my like second

43:16 Speaker 7: fret capo songs together, so it helps with tuning stability and.

43:22 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I incorporate my originals conclusion.

43:26 Speaker 5: Yeah, well i'd imagine too. Some of the covers you do,

43:29 Speaker 5: like that Elliott Smith song I didn't recognize. I'm sure.

43:31 Speaker 5: I'm sure if you ever had anyone come up to

43:33 Speaker 5: you and say, hey, I really like that song and

43:36 Speaker 5: they have no idea that it's not an original, does

43:38 Speaker 5: that happen?

43:39 Speaker 7: The only covers I would say that I do that

43:42 Speaker 7: people don't recognize are Elliott Smith and I Have so

43:46 Speaker 7: and which sends me. But I do them just I

43:50 Speaker 7: do them as like a kind of way of saying

43:52 Speaker 7: thank you to Elliott. Yeah, but yeah, usually people like

43:57 Speaker 7: people pick up on things like it's crazy. You know,

44:01 Speaker 7: you play you, people wonder why, Like somebody will be like,

44:05 Speaker 7: I'll never.

44:05 Speaker 6: Play Hate Jude because it's such a cliche. But you

44:08 Speaker 6: play it at a bar, you're gonna get a reaction

44:11 Speaker 6: that's gonna give you such an endorphin rush. That's it's incredible,

44:15 Speaker 6: the dopamine high you get from playing Hate You Live.

44:18 Speaker 6: I can't I recollect it to everyone. Play Hay Jude.

44:20 Speaker 5: Live, no kidding?

44:21 Speaker 6: Yeah, and play The Boxer by Paul by something. Oh yeah,

44:24 Speaker 6: that's a great one.

44:25 Speaker 2: Yeah.

44:26 Speaker 6: Yeah.

44:26 Speaker 5: Are do you have a favorite cover? Is there is

44:29 Speaker 5: there one that you especially.

44:31 Speaker 6: That like I look forward to? Yeah, I can. I

44:34 Speaker 6: play Neon by John Mayer, and that's a bit of

44:37 Speaker 6: a flex and that seems to be giving me some attention.

44:41 Speaker 7: So I like playing that one. Yea, yeah, yeah, that's

44:44 Speaker 7: it's been fun. I also like playing Your Body as

44:46 Speaker 7: a Wonderland.

44:47 Speaker 5: Yeah.

44:47 Speaker 6: I love that song. Yeah yeah yeah uh. And I

44:49 Speaker 6: also love playing I Can't help falling in Love with You. Yeah,

44:54 Speaker 6: play Elvis a lot. That's a great song.

44:56 Speaker 4: Yeah.

44:56 Speaker 5: I would imagine that goes over pretty well.

44:58 Speaker 7: I can I can see how just watch I've seen

45:00 Speaker 7: like moms bring their little kids on stage up the

45:03 Speaker 7: front to dance.

45:05 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that's very cool, very cool.

45:08 Speaker 5: Have you ever if you ever played any covers that

45:10 Speaker 5: you had to ditch because you they weren't going over

45:13 Speaker 5: well or.

45:15 Speaker 7: That's a good question. Yeah, definitely. I tried doing party

45:21 Speaker 7: rock by l MFAO.

45:23 Speaker 6: That didn't work. I still do it sometimes, but there's

45:26 Speaker 6: a line in.

45:26 Speaker 7: It it's like half half black, half white Domino and like,

45:30 Speaker 7: once I sung it out loud.

45:31 Speaker 3: Was like, oh yeah, I'm as.

45:33 Speaker 6: Just white male. So there was that, and then there

45:37 Speaker 6: was also.

45:40 Speaker 7: There's a song called issues like I Got I Got Issues,

45:43 Speaker 7: you got too. I don't know who actually does a song,

45:46 Speaker 7: but it just didn't translate well to acoustic. But I'm

45:49 Speaker 7: working on a version, you know, the song I Will Survive.

45:52 Speaker 7: I'm working on that at the moment. That's like my

45:54 Speaker 7: latest thing. I'm really excited. I think I want to

45:56 Speaker 7: actually like put it on the album. I always wanted

45:58 Speaker 7: to have a song like a cover so on the album.

46:00 Speaker 5: Oh okay, so I might do that.

46:02 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, spoiler alert, Yeah.

46:04 Speaker 5: I know I think that would that would be pretty cool.

46:08 Speaker 5: Now the singles that you're releasing, are these all being

46:10 Speaker 5: recorded at the same studio or yeah, yeah.

46:12 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Well I'll go in there and we'll spend

46:15 Speaker 6: like three hours record like three songs because they're just

46:17 Speaker 6: double tracked. They're very simple. It's still I like. What

46:21 Speaker 6: I like is it's not it's not low fi, but

46:23 Speaker 6: it's like just the next step up. Yeah, and I

46:25 Speaker 6: just want.

46:26 Speaker 7: To keep polishing it up, you know, keep polishing the

46:28 Speaker 7: turd if you will, until it's maybe where people would

46:34 Speaker 7: consider it acceptable or something like that.

46:38 Speaker 5: Well, I'll look forward to hearing the next one when

46:39 Speaker 5: it's ready.

46:40 Speaker 6: That's for sure.

46:41 Speaker 5: That's for sure. Let's see you want to play one more? Sure? Sure, sure,

46:46 Speaker 5: if you're just joining us, We have Temple Mountain here

46:48 Speaker 5: with us alive in studio on this Saturday morning. We

46:52 Speaker 5: do have a dead by Wednesday in the third hour,

46:54 Speaker 5: although they might be a little late. We were talking,

46:56 Speaker 5: we were I think it was off air. We were

46:58 Speaker 5: talking about how they're coming up from Connecticut, and apparently

47:01 Speaker 5: Jenny messaged me and said they had a little bit

47:03 Speaker 5: of a delay because of the Hartford Marathon, which I

47:05 Speaker 5: didn't know what's happening today, but I can see how

47:07 Speaker 5: that would happen.

47:08 Speaker 6: Here's a random question. What are your thoughts on do

47:10 Speaker 6: you know about New Haven's clam pizza?

47:13 Speaker 5: No, but I'm horrified.

47:15 Speaker 7: Yeah right, yeah, it's someone from New York. It's just like,

47:18 Speaker 7: there's no way that.

47:18 Speaker 5: Works clam pizza. I have a rule because you know,

47:23 Speaker 5: pizza is my favorite food. And uh oh really and

47:26 Speaker 5: and if somebody asked me, you know, Matt, why you

47:29 Speaker 5: know you say certain types of pizza are gross and

47:31 Speaker 5: other types are good. Here's here's how. This is what

47:34 Speaker 5: I tell people. If you want your pizza to be delicious,

47:38 Speaker 5: you should only choose delicious toppings. If you choose disgusting toppings,

47:42 Speaker 5: your pizza will be disgusting. And that's all you have

47:44 Speaker 5: to know.

47:45 Speaker 2: Now.

47:45 Speaker 7: With that said, you know pizza is hard to find.

47:47 Speaker 7: Come around here there's good pizza and there's Sorry New Hampshire,

47:51 Speaker 7: there's not. If you're from New York, you're not gonna

47:53 Speaker 7: love the pizza.

47:54 Speaker 2: Right.

47:54 Speaker 6: Have you been Tollis in Peterborough?

47:57 Speaker 5: No?

47:57 Speaker 7: No, they're good, really Yeapelli's only getting better too.

48:01 Speaker 6: Yeah.

48:01 Speaker 7: They are very traditional in like New York style slices

48:04 Speaker 7: and they still slices by the singles Monday through Friday,

48:08 Speaker 7: eleven am to four pm.

48:11 Speaker 5: You being from New York, you you, I mean, you

48:13 Speaker 5: wouldn't say that if it wasn't true.

48:15 Speaker 7: So it's now is it New York Pizza? No, but

48:18 Speaker 7: but there's something in the water, so.

48:20 Speaker 5: It's the clos probably so far.

48:23 Speaker 7: Yeah, I've heard think that people have told me about

48:25 Speaker 7: Tilton's House of Pizza, and I need to check out.

48:27 Speaker 7: Apparently I've had good pizza. I kind of like bad

48:30 Speaker 7: pizza too. I just love pizza.

48:31 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm the same way.

48:33 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't have to be great exactly. I

48:35 Speaker 7: love you know, cumber Comby's Farms pizza makes me happy.

48:39 Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, I'm gonna get out of I hate for that.

48:40 Speaker 5: But yeah, seven eleven pizza isn't bad if like when

48:44 Speaker 5: it's fresh. But it has to be fresh because once

48:48 Speaker 5: it turns, it turns. Oh yeah, I fell into a

48:51 Speaker 5: habit of I don't need seven eleven pizza anymore, but

48:53 Speaker 5: I felt of eating it. But it had to be

48:55 Speaker 5: like like, I mean, like within the last five minutes.

48:58 Speaker 5: It had to have been put.

48:58 Speaker 6: Yeah, otherwise something happens to cheese at.

49:00 Speaker 5: Minute six it turns into something horrible.

49:03 Speaker 6: And you know, I'm not stupid. I know it's not real.

49:05 Speaker 7: I know it's yeah, yeah, I know that's not that's

49:07 Speaker 7: not all right, that's not tomato right.

49:10 Speaker 5: Right, making me hungry? All right, Temple Mountain is here

49:16 Speaker 5: with us, live in studio, and what are you gonna

49:18 Speaker 5: play for us?

49:18 Speaker 7: I'm gonna play a John Mayer song if that's okay, Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

49:22 Speaker 6: I'll play your Body's of Wonderland?

49:24 Speaker 5: Right, happy, all right, very good.

49:46 Speaker 2: We got the afternoon. You got this room too. One

49:56 Speaker 2: thing that's left to do government discovering you, one mind

50:06 Speaker 2: to avery and Jeff, your skin like Parson, one pair

50:15 Speaker 2: of cantie lips, and your bubble gum too.

50:23 Speaker 10: And if you want love making swimming a deep sea

50:30 Speaker 10: of blankets, take your big plants and break up.

50:36 Speaker 2: This is bound to be a wild Your body is

50:42 Speaker 2: wanting land. Your body is a wonder I'll use my hands.

50:50 Speaker 2: Your body is wanton land. Something about wid half falls

50:59 Speaker 2: in your face. I love the shape you take.

51:03 Speaker 10: One crownto Honts billowcas you tell me where to go,

51:08 Speaker 10: and the one I lead found it and never let

51:11 Speaker 10: your head hits bad.

51:13 Speaker 3: Found my hand behind it. One off, make it swim

51:19 Speaker 3: in the deep sea. Plants.

51:23 Speaker 2: Take all your big plants and break them.

51:28 Speaker 5: This is bound to be a wow.

51:32 Speaker 2: Your body is wander Lands.

51:37 Speaker 3: Your body is wander Well you use my hands, your

51:42 Speaker 3: body is wander lands.

51:51 Speaker 2: Damn, baby, man, you rest your may.

51:58 Speaker 3: I know your mind.

52:00 Speaker 2: Oh man o man, But she looks so good it hurts.

52:05 Speaker 3: Sometimes.

52:14 Speaker 6: Bad is want lands.

52:18 Speaker 3: Bad is wander all use mans, bad is want.

52:45 Speaker 5: That's a long fade. Well, you know what's funny. I

52:48 Speaker 5: was thinking about this as you were playing it. I

52:51 Speaker 5: haven't heard you know, his version, the original version of

52:53 Speaker 5: a long time. But speaking of phades, there's I always

52:58 Speaker 5: thought it was kind of funny how the song kind

53:00 Speaker 5: of tricks you a little bit in that it sounds

53:03 Speaker 5: like it's over. There's a point where the song sounds

53:05 Speaker 5: like it's over where you know what I mean, and

53:07 Speaker 5: it goes to that like you know exactly what I mean,

53:11 Speaker 5: which is not because I've said this to other people

53:13 Speaker 5: and they don't know what I'm talking about. Yeah, there's

53:15 Speaker 5: a point in the song where it's like, if you

53:17 Speaker 5: haven't heard it before, you're sure the fade out is

53:20 Speaker 5: right there, and then it doesn't happen.

53:22 Speaker 6: He does that actually a lot on M squares.

53:24 Speaker 7: This is a song called my stupid mouth and there's

53:27 Speaker 7: a part where it just ends and then he goes

53:29 Speaker 7: one more thing.

53:30 Speaker 5: Oh yea yeah yeah. I was like, Clarity, that's a

53:35 Speaker 5: down Mary's song that I really like. Yeah, yeah, that's

53:37 Speaker 5: a good one. What uh so we are approaching the

53:43 Speaker 5: top of the hour. What do you are you playing

53:45 Speaker 5: this weekend anywhere?

53:47 Speaker 7: I'm going to Campton, New Hampshire today to play at

53:49 Speaker 7: mad River Coffee House, okay, and then I'm playing this Thursday.

53:52 Speaker 7: I play at kill Kenny's in New Hampshire, and then

53:55 Speaker 7: i play in Francis Town. The following week I play

53:58 Speaker 7: I don't know my whole schedule, but I'm all over

54:00 Speaker 7: the place if you want to find out. Www dot

54:03 Speaker 7: Temple Mats and music dot com. I just updated the

54:05 Speaker 7: website too, so.

54:07 Speaker 5: Oh very good, very good. You do all that yourself,

54:09 Speaker 5: the yeah web web stuff, Yeah, yeah, excellent. Yeah, no,

54:11 Speaker 5: it's a nice website. Thank you. I'm kind of a

54:13 Speaker 5: website nerd. I look at websites and judge them.

54:16 Speaker 6: That's I don't know what I'm doing, so that means

54:18 Speaker 6: a lot to me.

54:19 Speaker 5: Well, because a lot of a lot of our guests

54:21 Speaker 5: I look at their websites and it's like, oh they're

54:24 Speaker 5: so like, you know, I'll have a band on It's like, oh,

54:27 Speaker 5: there's such a great band and their website. It's horrible.

54:30 Speaker 7: You know, invest put if you make money at gigs,

54:33 Speaker 7: put money back into things.

54:35 Speaker 5: You know.

54:35 Speaker 7: I paid for a graphic designer. Shout to Emily Perry

54:38 Speaker 7: for designing my logo and ever since that, that was

54:41 Speaker 7: like a game changer, Like I don't got so many

54:43 Speaker 7: gigs from.

54:44 Speaker 5: That logo, don't kidding? Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, it's great

54:47 Speaker 5: that you say that, though, because that demonstrates that sometimes,

54:50 Speaker 5: you know, even just tweaking one thing, oh yeah, that

54:53 Speaker 5: that most people might not think would make a difference

54:56 Speaker 5: sometimes just everything.

54:58 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And learning how to talk to people is

55:00 Speaker 7: so important, yes, you know, don't Yeah, I have a

55:05 Speaker 7: real pet peeve when I hear like, I know, we

55:07 Speaker 7: gotta go. But when I hear an artist like almost

55:09 Speaker 7: like say something condescending to like a person.

55:11 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, just be nice, right right, just do it? Yeah. Yeah,

55:15 Speaker 5: it's not hard, it's not hard. It doesn't cost anything.

55:17 Speaker 6: Now, it's not easy either, sometimes, but yeah, make it easy,

55:20 Speaker 6: find a way.

55:21 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly exactly, And that's how you build relationships exactly. Yeah, absolutely,

55:26 Speaker 5: and uh so you've got uh and then you're are

55:30 Speaker 5: you pretty busy for the rest of the month too?

55:32 Speaker 5: When when does Because I know you said you're starting

55:34 Speaker 5: to slow down, but that's is that in November.

55:36 Speaker 6: I'm slowing down.

55:37 Speaker 7: I'm taking a little bit of a break just to

55:39 Speaker 7: focus on grad school. So I have two gigs left

55:41 Speaker 7: for October.

55:42 Speaker 5: Oh okay, yeah, and.

55:43 Speaker 7: Then I go into a studio on the thirtieth, okay,

55:46 Speaker 7: and then November I start again. I'll have I think

55:48 Speaker 7: I have like ten to fifteen gigs or something like that.

55:50 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, oh wow, okay, and then uh and Stacey

55:54 Speaker 5: the new single, which we'll we'll play again to close

55:56 Speaker 5: out to a segment two of you because this is

55:57 Speaker 5: out today on all the streaming platforms, and there's a

56:00 Speaker 5: video coming soon.

56:01 Speaker 6: Make a week okay, yeah it might. Yeah, I'll probably

56:04 Speaker 6: release it in a week.

56:05 Speaker 5: All right, all right, excellent, excellent, Well, thank you, my friend.

56:08 Speaker 5: This is always wonderful to see you. I think this

56:10 Speaker 5: is your Is this your third time on the show.

56:12 Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you for always having me. You guys, that's

56:14 Speaker 6: really sweet.

56:15 Speaker 5: Absolutely, no, we we love to have you on and

56:17 Speaker 5: I'll remind people too. Eric was also on Rob's show

56:20 Speaker 5: Granted State of Mind, so you can find that in

56:22 Speaker 5: the archive as well. And we will close out the

56:25 Speaker 5: segment once again with the brand new single out today.

56:29 Speaker 5: It is called Stacy by Temple Mountain. Thanks again.

56:38 Speaker 2: The prettiest us I've seen. Oh your lips, so that's

56:48 Speaker 2: when you link. You show me what you mean, and

56:55 Speaker 2: I would do anything just say it's true. So it's breathe.

57:04 Speaker 2: Look at me.

57:06 Speaker 3: I love you.

57:12 Speaker 2: Had a dream we would dancing all night.

57:19 Speaker 3: Oh I never.

57:21 Speaker 2: Danced uf once before, but you My feet move right.

57:29 Speaker 3: And I would do.

57:30 Speaker 2: Anything to just say it's true.

57:36 Speaker 3: So it's breathe. Look at me.

57:40 Speaker 2: I love you, And that.

57:45 Speaker 3: You fall asleep. I count the sheep that's.

57:49 Speaker 2: Playing through your minds, and I watch your flaws hanging

57:56 Speaker 2: off your jaws, the feelings that you high.

58:01 Speaker 3: Or you're cold, and hair swinging in the.

58:06 Speaker 2: Quiet winds subsides, and your loneliness and your only and

58:14 Speaker 2: your mind. Now I see why I say you and I.

58:59 Speaker 4: M hmm on the bellies I wrote before, have you

59:06 Speaker 4: between the lines, And I would do anything.

59:15 Speaker 2: To just say I do so expreas look at me

59:22 Speaker 2: I love you.

59:26 Speaker 3: So Sprea, look at me.

59:30 Speaker 2: I love you.