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Matt Connarton Unleashed 10-4-25 hour 2
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Speaker 3: I just wanted to let that fade out. That's so cool.
Speaker 3: That is it's pretty intense. That's short term solution. The
Speaker 3: band is the Gray Curtain and we've got Dennis and Troy.
Speaker 3: We're gonna speak with them in just a moment. Welcome everybody,
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Speaker 3: New Hampshire. Today is Saturday, October four, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Jenny is here, of course, at the news tablet for
Speaker 3: and let's talk with these guys. Dennis, you've been on
Speaker 3: the show before. Of course, you've been on a couple
Speaker 3: of times now, right.
Speaker 13: I've been on the show with you guys twice, one
Speaker 13: in person, one over the phone.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, that's right. Yes, And Troy, this is
Speaker 3: your first time, you're right.
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, thanks for having me. It's it's great to
Speaker 14: be here. This is actually the first time on the radio.
Speaker 3: It's oh no kidding, yeah yeah, really cool to you know,
Speaker 3: be here.
Speaker 14: And oh well, welcome experience.
Speaker 13: Thank you.
Speaker 3: What do you do in the band?
Speaker 13: I play guitar?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, excellent, excellent. So the song we just heard,
Speaker 3: short term Solution, is that new? Is that a new
Speaker 3: single or no?
Speaker 15: No?
Speaker 13: Short term is part of the first album Shadow of
Speaker 13: a Man. Okay, came out around fourteen fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 10: And.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's one of the older tracks.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Now what is the meaning of that song
Speaker 3: because obviously, I mean there must be a reason that
Speaker 3: you chose that for today. That was one of the
Speaker 3: one of the ones you sent us.
Speaker 13: Well, we talked a bit off air about this. But
Speaker 13: during twenty twelve, I was going At twenty eleven twenty twelve,
Speaker 13: I was going through a like a downward spiral where
Speaker 13: I was kind of alienating everybody around me and going
Speaker 13: through a very dark period of my time, my life,
Speaker 13: and basically drinking myself into an early grave. The entire
Speaker 13: album Shadow of a Man is based on that time,
Speaker 13: where I would get up in the morning, drunk, start drinking,
Speaker 13: go over to the bar, spend most of my money
Speaker 13: at one bar until they told me to leave, Go
Speaker 13: to the next bar in my hometown, drink until they
Speaker 13: told me to leave, go home, pass out, wake up,
Speaker 13: do it all over again.
Speaker 1: And I.
Speaker 13: I remember a quote at a show at a benefit
Speaker 13: that we were playing that suicide is a a permanent
Speaker 13: solution to a short term problem. And that's kind of
Speaker 13: what kind of jolted that song into into existence, because
Speaker 13: drinking was always my short term solution to getting through
Speaker 13: the day, because the moment I would sober up, I'd
Speaker 13: have to face reality and I didn't want to do that.
Speaker 13: But luckily, this album, this project, as UH has helped
Speaker 13: me and in a lot of ways, get through a
Speaker 13: lot of my demons. I still suffer a lot of days,
Speaker 13: and unfortunately people around me thankfully have a lot of
Speaker 13: tolerance for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 13: I I guess that's the word. I'm tolerated by by
Speaker 13: a lot of people in my life. You, Dennis, thanks man.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you're obviously you know, valued and loved,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, you know, it's it's it's not
Speaker 3: it's not tolerating you. It's you know, obviously these people
Speaker 3: care for you a great deal.
Speaker 14: It's it's definitely like that album in particular, it's like
Speaker 14: it gives a voice to, like, you know, all these
Speaker 14: problems that a lot of people have in their lives,
Speaker 14: and it's that that the throes of addiction and and
Speaker 14: just getting through it like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely do Do people come up to
Speaker 3: you at shows or contact you online who've who've listened
Speaker 3: to this music and and kind of reach out and say, hey,
Speaker 3: I I can relate to this ors helped me in
Speaker 3: some way?
Speaker 13: Or yeah, yeah I when it first came out, it
Speaker 13: not so much. I don't know what happened. Maybe the
Speaker 13: maybe the environment has changed over the last few years,
Speaker 13: where like talking about mental health has become okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it's much less stigmatized any.
Speaker 14: Yeah, definitely, I feel like has happened even more so
Speaker 14: like post like pandemic. That's like everybody's coming out of
Speaker 14: their houses and it's like you know what's going out
Speaker 14: with you and just kind of spill your whole life
Speaker 14: out to your your friends that you haven't seen in
Speaker 14: a while.
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, I remember. I won't say names obviously, but
Speaker 13: there was a young woman. We played out in uh
Speaker 13: in Maine at a place called Charlie's Hill.
Speaker 3: That venue. The name of that venue comes up a
Speaker 3: lot on the show. Apparently it's pretty cool.
Speaker 13: It's great. We played there once. We can't wait to
Speaker 13: go back. They treat local bands like their nationals over there.
Speaker 13: And I remember this one woman came up to me,
Speaker 13: couldn't have been twenty one yet. And when I'm on stage,
Speaker 13: I like to let people in the crowd, whether they
Speaker 13: whether they need it or not, I just want them
Speaker 13: to know that if they feel isolated, if they feel alone,
Speaker 13: you know, come to me, you know, because I know
Speaker 13: what that feeling feels like. I know what it feels
Speaker 13: like to isolate yourself, whether it's on purpose or because
Speaker 13: you know, you just don't have anyone to talk to,
Speaker 13: and I've I had the chance to talk to her.
Speaker 13: And she told me how she was having suicidal ideations
Speaker 13: and she couldn't escape it no matter how hard she tried.
Speaker 13: And we talked for a good three hours. And when
Speaker 13: I just I just remember her face when she approached me,
Speaker 13: mascara coming down her face. And after she walked away,
Speaker 13: I noticed there's were you still there, Troy? I might
Speaker 13: have left me. There was a line of like probably
Speaker 13: five six nine people wanting to like talk. Three o'clock
Speaker 13: in the morning, I'm still out in Maine talking to people.
Speaker 13: My friend John who came with me, John Foley to John, Yeah,
Speaker 13: he came with me, and I think it was like
Speaker 13: eight o'clock in the morning. We finally got back to
Speaker 13: the Wister area where we're from, and I, I don't
Speaker 13: know what, I don't know. I don't know how to
Speaker 13: explain it. But I felt so much lighter, you know,
Speaker 13: And I felt like I had actually done some good,
Speaker 13: not just for myself, not just to spread message of
Speaker 13: self awareness and making it okay to talk about these things.
Speaker 13: But I have always in my heart, I just I
Speaker 13: always want to help people. I always want to let
Speaker 13: people know that it's okay to not be okay. As
Speaker 13: cliche as that's saying has become, it's it's true, and
Speaker 13: it's the reason why it's become cliche is because you
Speaker 13: know it's important to have that in your head. And
Speaker 13: that's really where where our music stems from. I talked
Speaker 13: to you about this the last time I was here.
Speaker 13: All of our music is based around a town called
Speaker 13: the Town of Apathy, and I created that after reading
Speaker 13: or it's not even reading, listening to a quote from
Speaker 13: Miller said the best way to get over a woman
Speaker 13: is to turn her into literature. So I created this
Speaker 13: town with all of my hurts, habits, hang ups, all
Speaker 13: of my bullies, every bad memory I've ever had, and
Speaker 13: created characters and put them in a town that they
Speaker 13: can't escape. The first album, it's a fictional character by
Speaker 13: the name of Nathan Knopf loses the love of his
Speaker 13: life and the album takes place the last day and
Speaker 13: half of his life. Second album is about a different
Speaker 13: character going through a different thing. Third album is going
Speaker 13: to be about different characters going through a different thing,
Speaker 13: but they're all going to be based around how people
Speaker 13: can relate to some form of mental illness. And more
Speaker 13: than anything, I want these songs, these albums, the script
Speaker 13: that we're writing to go along with it, the novel
Speaker 13: that I've been working on. I want everything that we
Speaker 13: do to help people and let them know that they're
Speaker 13: not alone. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's excellent. Yeah, we're starting to say some.
Speaker 14: Of the try Uh well, I guess to to piggyback
Speaker 14: off of that, like with the the songwriting process in
Speaker 14: particular with with like the script that he's writing. It's
Speaker 14: it's cool to like have a feeling to attach to
Speaker 14: like the music that we're writing, rather than like, here's.
Speaker 13: This cool song that I wrote.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this whole story.
Speaker 14: That we're trying to tell with with you know, the
Speaker 14: script and the trying to fit the music into the
Speaker 14: it's it's very interesting. And uh, especially also with the
Speaker 14: shows that like I feel that like it's like after
Speaker 14: we play the show, it's like that that weight has
Speaker 14: come off, Like especially with these songs, it's it's almost
Speaker 14: like therapy. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's you just kind
Speaker 14: of let it all out.
Speaker 13: Yeah. Yeah, that's why we call our shows. That's why
Speaker 13: we call our shows sermons rather than performances. That's why
Speaker 13: we call our fan base the congregation rather than an
Speaker 13: army or you know something like that. It's like, you know,
Speaker 13: you come to our shows to feel something, you know,
Speaker 13: and that's not a knock on any other band that
Speaker 13: we play with. We love this scene. I can go
Speaker 13: back and forth with you all day. It's like, you know,
Speaker 13: with some of the bands that we have played with
Speaker 13: that deserve a lot more recognition than what they're getting.
Speaker 13: But you know, time after time we play a show
Speaker 13: and we're usually middle or the beginning of the lineup,
Speaker 13: and someone will always approach us and say, you guys
Speaker 13: are a breath of fresh air. No one's doing what
Speaker 13: you're doing. And I think that's kind of sad because
Speaker 13: there are bands that are doing what we're doing. You know,
Speaker 13: they're just not getting the opportunities that we're getting, right
Speaker 13: And uh, don't get me wrong, I appreciate every opportunity,
Speaker 13: of course, you know, but yeah, like just off the cuff,
Speaker 13: the Big Son, we were talking about those guys on
Speaker 13: the way here. You know, a great group of kids.
Speaker 13: You know, they sound like tool before they got rich,
Speaker 13: they you know, before they lost the hunger, you know,
Speaker 13: Scarecrow Hill. Oh yeah, I love them. We had them
Speaker 13: on yeah, and I listened to that interview. Was the
Speaker 13: first time that I had ever been name dropped. I
Speaker 13: was like, oh, that's cool, you know, but you know,
Speaker 13: Tyler lead singer Scarecrow is now our drummer, you.
Speaker 3: Know he is.
Speaker 14: He loved us a batch, like we we kind of
Speaker 14: built this friendship.
Speaker 13: With him, and he's like, I love you guys.
Speaker 16: That's awesome.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 14: I was kind of surprised to find out when he
Speaker 14: you know, played drums and like he like we were
Speaker 14: having issues finding drummers and yeah, like I mean, I'm
Speaker 14: down to fill in with you guys. And then we
Speaker 14: just kind of like begged him to be like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 13: Yeah, practically on our knees, like please Tyler, Oh wow, yeah,
Speaker 13: oh that's cool. Yeah. Uh but yeah, we've had such
Speaker 13: a connection with those guys since uh uh summer last
Speaker 13: year when we played uh Electric CA's, and I think
Speaker 13: we played like twelve or thirteen shows with them since uh.
Speaker 13: I've been on stage with them my handful of times,
Speaker 13: just doing a couple of tracks here and there.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I can't say enough about how much I love
Speaker 13: Scarecrow Hill. Yeah, fear of the masses. Love those guys, Anaria.
Speaker 13: You know what a voice Jessica has, you know, it's
Speaker 13: just uh yeah, My point being is this scene is
Speaker 13: so it's filled with so much talent.
Speaker 16: Oh absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 13: Yeah. So when uh, when we get the opportunities that
Speaker 13: we get, we like to share as much as we
Speaker 13: possibly caneah, but like we're hungry, we want to we
Speaker 13: want to venture out and you know, play around this country,
Speaker 13: around this world, you know, just spread a message that
Speaker 13: it's okay to not be okay, right. But I can't
Speaker 13: you know, I can't thank Troy enough to you know,
Speaker 13: with being in this band. Everybody that has been part
Speaker 13: of the Great Curtain over the last stuff God since
Speaker 13: twenty fourteen, oh wow, yeah, over ten years. You know,
Speaker 13: great group of musicians. You know obviously parted ways for
Speaker 13: one reason or another. Sure, but I can't say enough
Speaker 13: good things about everyone who has taken part of this
Speaker 13: journey with me over the last eleven years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, just now, did you how did you
Speaker 3: guys come to work together?
Speaker 13: Take this?
Speaker 17: Yeah?
Speaker 14: So I, oh my god, how far back do I
Speaker 14: go with this?
Speaker 13: Okay?
Speaker 14: So a band that was in a long time ago
Speaker 14: Fatal Defiance. We'd actually played at the Bungalow before it
Speaker 14: closed out and happy that that's actually coming back. But
Speaker 14: I'd played a couple of shows with our bass player,
Speaker 14: Sean his band in Many, so we kind of got
Speaker 14: to know each other through that. And then a few
Speaker 14: years later, like we started, you know, like, hey, do
Speaker 14: you want to try to get something together here and
Speaker 14: work on some stuff. And then a few months after that,
Speaker 14: he makes a post on Facebook like, Hey, any of
Speaker 14: my friends that played guitar are interested enjoining a band?
Speaker 14: So I was like hi, me hi, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 14: check out Great Curtain. We were looking for guitar players.
Speaker 14: I guess he was gonna play guitar before but wanted
Speaker 14: to play bass. Yeah, so yeah I checked it out
Speaker 14: and it's I like fell in love with the music instantly. Yeah,
Speaker 14: It's like that there was something very special about this
Speaker 14: band that I I just really wanted to be part
Speaker 14: of and really happy to be part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 14: thank you Dennis for that.
Speaker 3: Were you there from the beginning? That's are you an
Speaker 3: original member or no?
Speaker 8: No no.
Speaker 10: I joined.
Speaker 14: God probably two years ago.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you're so you're relatively new then.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I'm the only original member left.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, is it is it challenge? Has it
Speaker 3: been challenging it all over the years with you know,
Speaker 3: like you said, you know, people come and they go.
Speaker 3: I mean, has that been Has that been a challenge
Speaker 3: for you? Or is it has been relatively easy to
Speaker 3: find people who fit the project.
Speaker 13: Or honestly, in this area, it's very tough.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 13: And again I'm an eclectic music lover. Yeah, so this
Speaker 13: is like, but this scene, it is mostly metal and
Speaker 13: at least what I've seen, and our friends in the
Speaker 13: metal community like to make it very known to us
Speaker 13: we are not a metal band.
Speaker 3: It's like that.
Speaker 13: I know, I know we're not, but so it's it's
Speaker 13: difficult when it's like, Okay, I need my eclectic musician
Speaker 13: friends to come and do this project with me that
Speaker 13: already has two albums worth of music, and some some musicians,
Speaker 13: you know, they don't want to do the whole theme album, right,
Speaker 13: the whole concept album thing, so they bow out as well.
Speaker 13: Some musicians like Tyler are in multiple bands, you know,
Speaker 13: so it's a it's tough and especially after someone leaves,
Speaker 13: like so I started this band with Jim Miller and uh,
Speaker 13: when like when I got the opportunity to play at
Speaker 13: Foxwood's it was our first show. He was the first
Speaker 13: person I called. I became very close with him over
Speaker 13: the past like the next almost decade, and it it really,
Speaker 13: it really broke my heart when he, his brother, and
Speaker 13: our drummer at the time, Sean Different Sean all left because.
Speaker 3: Wait, they all left it once. They all left it once.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 13: Yeah, So it took me a while, not just to
Speaker 13: find people, but you know, I I basically sat around writing,
Speaker 13: doing the comic, doing the stories, and really contemplating if
Speaker 13: I was even going to continue with this. Yeah, and
Speaker 13: I'm not gonna lie, you know, certain mental illnesses started
Speaker 13: creeping in and I I was having a pretty difficult
Speaker 13: time at the time because, uh, it wasn't exactly one
Speaker 13: of those kind of separations where it was mutual. Oh okay,
Speaker 13: I would have gladly gone another ten twenty years with
Speaker 13: those guys. Yeah, but yeah, I just decided that if
Speaker 13: I couldn't do the Gray Curtain, I wasn't going to
Speaker 13: do anything at all, because for me, it's a lot
Speaker 13: more than just playing music. It's the message. It's trying
Speaker 13: like like I mentioned before, it's trying to help people,
Speaker 13: and I luckily found well then fine, I was handed
Speaker 13: in so many words, Joe Saferano for a drummer. Joe
Speaker 13: plays for the Nagans, Raged the Stitches. He's I think
Speaker 13: he's in twenty two bands. I'm over exaggerating, but not
Speaker 13: by much, not much. No great guy. And through Joe,
Speaker 13: I was able to get a hold of Sean, who
Speaker 13: much like Troy, I knew from when he was in Inman,
Speaker 13: when he was fronting Inman, and I was able to
Speaker 13: get him on board. Through Sean, I was able to
Speaker 13: get Troy. Joe left because as I mentioned, he's in
Speaker 13: one hundred and twenty seven band. And so we we
Speaker 13: struggled for a little while getting a permanent drummer, but
Speaker 13: Tyler kept filling in, and finally Tyler, you know, gave
Speaker 13: into our begging and now we have Tyler.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 13: We are currently searching for a synth keyboard player, okay,
Speaker 13: and I don't know. I'm I'm open to all instruments
Speaker 13: to play in this band. Yeah. But to to wrote
Speaker 13: back into your original question, it gets difficult, it gets
Speaker 13: it gets trying, it gets more to find it sometimes
Speaker 13: where you're You're just messaging people that you know over
Speaker 13: and over again. It's like, hey, you know, what do
Speaker 13: you think? What do you think? And they're like, I
Speaker 13: don't know, man, you know, music is not really my thing.
Speaker 13: I don't know, man. You know, I got this other
Speaker 13: band that I'm working for. I don't know. Man, you know,
Speaker 13: I'm you know, I kind of just look at it
Speaker 13: like like a hobby. That's the worst.
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, yeah, I hate that response. That's the funny.
Speaker 14: There was the one guy that was like, you know,
Speaker 14: he was all on board, all about it, and then
Speaker 14: like what was it, like a day or two before
Speaker 14: we bring him in. It's like he actually listened to
Speaker 14: the songs and he's like, oh I had actually not
Speaker 14: that into the music.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 13: He said he was a big fan and everything I
Speaker 13: was come on down. And then like two days before
Speaker 13: his tryout, he's like, oh, actually, uh after listening to
Speaker 13: the music, it's a little too sad for me.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 13: I'm like, yeah, that's the point.
Speaker 16: Oh wow.
Speaker 13: Yeah. So it gets difficult because.
Speaker 7: We are.
Speaker 13: We are kind of like right in the middle there
Speaker 13: where where this group's cup of tea by like a mile,
Speaker 13: and then we're not this groups cup of tea by
Speaker 13: by a mile, right, So it gets it gets difficult,
Speaker 13: very very difficult sometimes.
Speaker 3: Especially with drummers, right, because that's that's been a running
Speaker 3: theme on the show over the years, like every drummers
Speaker 3: in multiple bands because there's so few drummers.
Speaker 13: So few, so few.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 13: Have nothing but love for the bands that have a
Speaker 13: drummer that only drums for them. I wish I had
Speaker 13: their magic. Just make a drummer up here like that,
Speaker 13: like like Scarecrow's drummer, Brendan. I don't. I cannot stress
Speaker 13: enough how amazing Brendan is. It's like before Tyler said
Speaker 13: that he would play with us, I was just like
Speaker 13: what I And it's the same thing with the drummer
Speaker 13: for the Big Son, Nick is just unreal, unreal talent.
Speaker 13: So like there have been a couple of times where
Speaker 13: I've been like, hey, let me let me talk to you.
Speaker 13: How you know serious? Are you with this band?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 13: But I wouldn't actually done that, right right, but uh,
Speaker 13: you know I have like approached a couple of drummers
Speaker 13: just to be like, hey, do you have the time
Speaker 13: to maybe put another project in? But the answers usually no,
Speaker 13: these like the drummers that I mentioned, Brendan and Nick,
Speaker 13: like they are so passionate about this one project that
Speaker 13: they're in and rightfully so. Scarecrow's amazing, big sons amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 13: but uh yeah, they would never be like, yeah, I
Speaker 13: gotta split my time between you guys who are doing
Speaker 13: like all of this stuff has an them to do
Speaker 13: with music, right, you know, it's like we were a
Speaker 13: multi media type of project where you know, a lot
Speaker 13: of bands are just strictly about the music, strictly about
Speaker 13: enforcing what their message is. Yeah, and I like, I
Speaker 13: completely understand their their point of view where it's like
Speaker 13: you don't want to overload yourself, right, But like you said,
Speaker 13: the scene is just deprived of it's a it's a
Speaker 13: desert trying to find a drummer that isn't in twelve band.
Speaker 13: Shout out to Joe.
Speaker 3: If you're just joining us, we're talking with We have
Speaker 3: Dennis and Troy here from the band The Gray Curtain
Speaker 3: And uh so have you guys not been so with
Speaker 3: the current situation? So you're looking for for a synth player.
Speaker 3: So are you guys not playing shows currently or are
Speaker 3: you Oh no, so what are you just doing it
Speaker 3: without the keyboard. Yeah.
Speaker 13: Yeah. We we have a show at Ralph's Rock Diner
Speaker 13: and Worcester on the tenth we have nice We have
Speaker 13: a show at Terminus on the eleventh, Oh excellent with
Speaker 13: all of our friends. That show a Terminus on the
Speaker 13: eleventh is just family, It's Scarecrow Hill, it's Double Inside Us,
Speaker 13: It's Fear of the Masses and it's us.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 13: That show is just going to be fun.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 13: And then the twenty fifth we're playing that coll with
Speaker 13: the Spectacular with Scarecrow Bands and Double Inside the Meagan's
Speaker 13: Joe Soper. Oh, Thenigans and Rag the Stitches. Joe's playing
Speaker 13: double duty on that show.
Speaker 3: Oh excellent, excellent.
Speaker 13: Yeah. Uh but yeah, we're uh, we're still playing because
Speaker 13: you know, you got to get the message out there.
Speaker 13: You gotta keep uh keep you fresh in people's minds, yeah,
Speaker 13: or else you get forgotten. I mean bottom line, Well, I.
Speaker 3: Would imagine too, I mean it must be. It must
Speaker 3: be kind of interesting, right if you're if you're playing,
Speaker 3: you know, because you've had to p play with these
Speaker 3: different configurations over the years. So if you have if
Speaker 3: you have something that you know, maybe you want a
Speaker 3: synth player, but you don't have a synth player, so
Speaker 3: you got to do without. But that must be kind
Speaker 3: of that must be kind of fun though in a way, right,
Speaker 3: because isn't it doesn't it make it kind of more
Speaker 3: of a challenge, It's like, and it kind of it
Speaker 3: makes it gives us songs a little bit of a
Speaker 3: different different flavor, a different texture.
Speaker 13: Right, definitely.
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's like the the you know, having the limitations
Speaker 14: kind of opens up the creativity kind of and like
Speaker 14: you can find like a cool effect on your pedal, yeah,
Speaker 14: to kind of fill in that space.
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, yeah. I was in a band years ago,
Speaker 3: long time ago. I was in a band called First
Speaker 3: Shove and First Shove you know, hardcore metal. We'd always
Speaker 3: been a five piece and because we had two guitar
Speaker 3: players and we had a guitar player leave and just
Speaker 3: Rich Burke, who was kind of he was the only
Speaker 3: original member of the band at that point, so he
Speaker 3: was kind of the de facto leader. So we all
Speaker 3: kind of looked at him and he said, you know what,
Speaker 3: I don't think we need to replace Dave. Let's just
Speaker 3: be a four piece. So we just tried it, and
Speaker 3: First Shove it had never been a four piece and
Speaker 3: it was kind of fun. Actually, yeah, you know, I
Speaker 3: mean it kind of changed the songs a little bit
Speaker 3: because he didn't have the two guitars, right, Yeah, but
Speaker 3: this sounded a little stripped down. I don't know, we
Speaker 3: all kind of liked it. We played it show and
Speaker 3: it was like, this is okay, we can do it
Speaker 3: this way for a while.
Speaker 14: Yeah, there's particularly a few songs, especially like we kind
Speaker 14: of take the keyboard out of it. It definitely, like
Speaker 14: you said, strips it down and kind of gives it
Speaker 14: more of like a raw kind of feeling, and it
Speaker 14: brings it to a whole other place.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Yeah, there are a few songs actually that Troy and
Speaker 13: Sean have kind of modified so that part of what
Speaker 13: the synth player would be playing is part of what
Speaker 13: they're doing.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 13: But it's, uh, it's definitely a lot of fun now
Speaker 13: that it's like, you know, they're learning the old material,
Speaker 13: but we're also moving towards writing new material. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 13: recording new material. It's it's honestly, I can't I know,
Speaker 13: I'm gonna sound redundant here. I cannot thank the people
Speaker 13: that are involved in keeping this thing going enough, like
Speaker 13: even right down to like Eleanor from Terminus, you know
Speaker 13: who hooked us up with you guys a year ago.
Speaker 13: You know, like people that just it's like, you know,
Speaker 13: these guys need or you know, dare I say, deserve
Speaker 13: an opportunity. It's like, you know, check these guys out.
Speaker 13: I cannot stress enough, Like how thankful I am for him,
Speaker 13: for Sean, for everybody, yeah, everybody down the tone pole,
Speaker 13: John Foley for giving us a place to play. Yeah,
Speaker 13: my my script writing partner, April, you know, right down
Speaker 13: to my kid, Yeah, you know, my kid killing you know,
Speaker 13: all these people just keeping me going, keeping me afloat,
Speaker 13: keeping me above ground as it were there you go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, so your script writing. So tell us
Speaker 3: more about that. Is that the graphic novel you were
Speaker 3: talking about or.
Speaker 13: No, they're two separate things. The graphic novel is going
Speaker 13: to be a comic book based on the uh, the
Speaker 13: Town of Apathy, which is the storyline that the albums
Speaker 13: are based on. But the script is basically almost like
Speaker 13: an episodic thing where I mean pipe dreams. You know,
Speaker 13: it becomes a show all about the Town of Apathy,
Speaker 13: and uh, you know, we'll include not just our music,
Speaker 13: but we want to include like other musicians from this area,
Speaker 13: like some of the bands that we mentioned. Uh but yeah.
Speaker 13: The script is basically, if if my wildest dreams come true,
Speaker 13: it'll be a TV show.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, excellent, outstanding. Why don't we let's play a
Speaker 3: let's play a track. I wanted to sneak this in.
Speaker 3: This is my okay, So selfishly, this is my personal
Speaker 3: favorite of all the great and I've listened to everything.
Speaker 3: I've listened everything that's available online. This is my personal favorite.
Speaker 3: Burn that Bridge? What can you what can you t
Speaker 3: us about this? Well? Actually this song.
Speaker 13: Was written by the Miller Brothers and Sean Donnellan long
Speaker 13: before they met me. I wrote the lyrics. I wrote
Speaker 13: the lyrics, yeah, but the they basically had like the
Speaker 13: whole foundation. And when they told me what the title was,
Speaker 13: I was like, well, this is going to be perfect
Speaker 13: for The Florist. Yeah album. Yeah, and uh, you know
Speaker 13: we just took it from there.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, let's give this a spin. This
Speaker 3: is this is such a great song. So it's called
Speaker 3: burn that Bridge. It's from the album The Florist, And
Speaker 3: this is the Gray Curtain.
Speaker 11: Usty rope thinking about it, I'm pregnant face.
Speaker 10: I could never play sech a.
Speaker 1: Ways to twenty two. In the end, I'll re all
Speaker 1: my rest.
Speaker 13: I want to read.
Speaker 1: The raby front.
Speaker 7: I'm reason to get you. I'm like me chucking me
Speaker 7: about dat Ramy prope let me ta.
Speaker 1: The woman rides shraps me a feeling a lot.
Speaker 7: I'm say, God sat a bottle the arter for one?
Speaker 7: Why not read me from I'm nothing but I got it?
Speaker 7: Sam doing what I'm doing at ramfo about I'm going
Speaker 7: I don't anywhere because I'm not the first time.
Speaker 1: We mean time time.
Speaker 3: I love it that has burned that bridge. The band
Speaker 3: is the Gray Curtain and we have Dennis and Troy
Speaker 3: here with us live in studio, and uh yeah, that's
Speaker 3: that's my favorite Gray Curtain track. So what's but we
Speaker 3: should talk about? So I don't know how much you
Speaker 3: want to say about the future, what the next project
Speaker 3: is as far as music, but you want to you
Speaker 3: want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: Well as it goes.
Speaker 14: Right now, we got two songs that we're gonna be
Speaker 14: tracking out for as singles, and we do we wanna
Speaker 14: I think we've talked about it before. If we just
Speaker 14: kind of want to do it kind of a double
Speaker 14: album kind of thing. We got seven songs for each
Speaker 14: one so far, and we kind of want to push
Speaker 14: a few more on each one, but it's we got
Speaker 14: some ambitious things coming.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 13: And again, what I absolutely love is anyone that's in
Speaker 13: this band always seems to have like this jolt of
Speaker 13: energy to you know, do these stories with me. This
Speaker 13: next story is going to be about two assassins, essentially,
Speaker 13: and each story kind of interweaves as they're given. The
Speaker 13: main antagonist of the town of Apathy is this demi god,
Speaker 13: vengeful spirit from purgatory named schol and he's very bored
Speaker 13: in this town because he's all powerful and everybody else
Speaker 13: is weak underneath him. So he starts playing these little
Speaker 13: games with his pets, and he hands one ten a
Speaker 13: name of excuse me, a list of ten names, and
Speaker 13: he gives another a list of ten names and says,
Speaker 13: the first to kill every person on your list of
Speaker 13: ten gets to leave this town. No strings attached. The albums.
Speaker 13: I was hoping to do one for one killer and
Speaker 13: one for the other killer, And there was like a
Speaker 13: good couple of months there where I was afraid to
Speaker 13: say anything realout it, because I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 13: these guys are new. I'm going to come at them
Speaker 13: with this double album idea and they're gonna be like, yeah,
Speaker 13: I'm all about it.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 13: As soon as I told him, he.
Speaker 3: Was like, sweet, good good, yeah, outstanding. Any kind of
Speaker 3: an ETA off air? You said, twenty thirty Yeah, twenty
Speaker 3: thirty three around there, twenty forty Yeah.
Speaker 13: I should right around the time I get an AARP card.
Speaker 13: But you know, I'm I don't know, I'm I'm always
Speaker 13: pushing for the next thing, which is another reason why
Speaker 13: I use the word tolerate. You know, people tolerate me
Speaker 13: for ex ended amount of time, you know, because I'm
Speaker 13: always like, hey, you know, we got to keep going,
Speaker 13: we got to keep pushing forward. We got to you know,
Speaker 13: where are you at with this? You know where are
Speaker 13: you at with that? I you know, I need to
Speaker 13: work on this. So I'm gonna, you know, work on
Speaker 13: this until you know, Saturday when we all get together
Speaker 13: and I'm going to have like all this ready for
Speaker 13: you guys, so be ready. Yeah, I'm a handful.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 16: Yeah, So that's what it takes, so right, it is,
Speaker 16: but it gets it gets tiring for.
Speaker 13: People that are not on that level. We just want
Speaker 13: to have fun with it. Yeah, yeah, you know, and
Speaker 13: I get that. So, uh, what I'm hoping for is
Speaker 13: a twenty early twenty twenty seven release, but you know,
Speaker 13: if if I can twenty twenty six, but I think
Speaker 13: that's pushing it.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I definitely want to like have all the songs,
Speaker 14: you know, written it together by the end of twenty
Speaker 14: twenty six. But yeah, yeah, I think I think that's
Speaker 14: pretty achievable.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right, you know, have all
Speaker 13: the songs ready by the end of twenty twenty six
Speaker 13: and then record and get everything out, hopefully have the
Speaker 13: graphic novel to go along with it. I've I've said
Speaker 13: that for the last two albums, and none of them
Speaker 13: have come out yet because it's just me. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 13: you know, I would love to have a team of
Speaker 13: artists helping me out with this. Even with the script,
Speaker 13: I didn't have, like I had like a couple of
Speaker 13: pages here, a couple of pages there. But my brain
Speaker 13: is my worst enemy, as we've talked about, so a
Speaker 13: lot of times I would get like a couple of
Speaker 13: pages in and just shut down. All it took was
Speaker 13: one person to be like, all right, tell me the
Speaker 13: story campfire style go and we're nearing a thousand.
Speaker 3: Pages, no kidding, Wow, okay, excellent.
Speaker 13: I'm hoping to do that with the graphic novel and
Speaker 13: you know, the next album, the next I mean, there's
Speaker 13: twenty chapters to this Town of Apathy storyline, so I'm hoping, yeah,
Speaker 13: before the cancer takes over and I can't do this anymore,
Speaker 13: I'm hoping to get it all out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so,
Speaker 13: and I guess that's another reason why I push so hard,
Speaker 13: you know, for like the timeline.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense, that makes sense. Well,
Speaker 3: speaking of time, the time does go quickly. So before
Speaker 3: we are going to play, we're gonna play one more song,
Speaker 3: going to finish out the segment. But I want to
Speaker 3: make sure remind us when the next show is or
Speaker 3: the next couple of shows. And also where is the
Speaker 3: best place for people to go online to keep up
Speaker 3: with everything that the Great Curtain is doing?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 14: Yeah, we got Ralph's Rock Diner and Worcester on the tenth,
Speaker 14: and then Terminus on the eleventh excellent, excellent, Codo Lowell
Speaker 14: on the twenty fifth.
Speaker 13: Okay, yeah, and then yeah, selfish plug. I have an
Speaker 13: art show at Terminus on the seventeen.
Speaker 16: Oh you do yeah?
Speaker 13: Oh wow, yep, Eleanor is allowing me to, for the
Speaker 13: first time ever, put my art up for display.
Speaker 3: Oh congratulations.
Speaker 13: And it's gonna be another reason why I love this
Speaker 13: show at Terminus. You know, we're along with playing with
Speaker 13: Scarecrow and even that show at Rolse. We're playing with
Speaker 13: mary An Toilette and the Runs. Yeah I love them,
Speaker 13: Zombie you know. But but yeah, we're going to be
Speaker 13: playing with Scarecrow Hill and Fear of the Masses and
Speaker 13: and Excuse Me and Devil inside Us. And my art
Speaker 13: is going to be down the hall hanging on the wall.
Speaker 3: Fantastic.
Speaker 13: Yeah. So yeah, the seventeenth will be a uh just
Speaker 13: a strict art show.
Speaker 14: And but you have the art hanging up all month long.
Speaker 13: Yeah, the art will be hanging up all month long.
Speaker 3: Outstanding.
Speaker 13: Yeah, thirty one pieces. But the best way to listen
Speaker 13: to us we have a Spotify page, Apple Music, band Camp.
Speaker 13: We're we're on all streaming platforms except Amazon. I noticed
Speaker 13: that we're not on it, but yeah, every other streaming
Speaker 13: platform we're on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we should tell people how to spelled gray because.
Speaker 13: Yes, we talked about this at the Goat before we
Speaker 13: came in here. Yeah, it's g r E. Why it's
Speaker 13: the old English spelling. A lot of people will spell
Speaker 13: it with an A, and you know, the search comes
Speaker 13: up with just a bunch of physical gray curtains. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 13: fard you guys anywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's one of the few words in
Speaker 3: the English language you can spell it either way and
Speaker 3: it's considered correct in American English.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, very good, guys, Thank you so much. And we're
Speaker 3: going to close out the segment with So we're gonna
Speaker 3: call this P drunk outside of bars leaving voicemails. That's
Speaker 3: not the act, not quite the actual title.
Speaker 13: I can't apologize enough for that.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, nothing to apologize for. But
Speaker 3: people can figure out what the P word actually is.
Speaker 3: But it's anything we should know about this before we
Speaker 3: hear it.
Speaker 13: Or basically, you know, in real life, I lost the
Speaker 13: love of my life because I was a very difficult
Speaker 13: person suffering from addiction. And in the story and in
Speaker 13: real life, this is about a particular incident where I
Speaker 13: was outside of one of my favorite bars, leaving voicemails
Speaker 13: in a particularly inebriated state.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So we're going to close out with this
Speaker 3: and if you are listening live on Saturday, coming up
Speaker 3: in the next hour, we've got Ryan Redwood, he's going
Speaker 3: to be joining us via WhatsApp from the UK talking
Speaker 3: about his new single. And then in the final segment
Speaker 3: of the show, we have the Fods I think they're
Speaker 3: I think they're from New York, but they're going to
Speaker 3: be joining us online as well. So we do have
Speaker 3: a lot left to go, but we're going to close
Speaker 3: out this hour with this p drunk outside of bars
Speaker 3: leaving voicemails from the Gray Curtain and Dennison Troy thank
Speaker 3: you again so much.
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