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4:14 Speaker 8: Such a great track. That is the back Room by Ryan Redwood. And we're gonna be talking with Ryan in just a moment. Welcome everybody, if you are listening live. On Saturday, October four, twenty twenty five, we have entered our number three new Marrow trace of Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of wm n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire and Ryan returns. We had Ryan on the show recently to talk about his first single Tomorrow that we premiered on the show, and then we played the back Room recently for the first time on American radio.

4:45 Speaker 8: Another great track, and I think Ryan is on the line with us to be a WhatsApp?

4:49 Speaker 9: Hi Ryan, Hello, Matt, how you doing mate? You okay?

4:52 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, welcome back to the show. Thank you for being patient. I know we're running a little bit behind, but great to talk to you again. I love that song, so.

5:01 Speaker 9: Thank you very much, mate, and thank you again for having me back.

5:03 Speaker 8: On absolutely absolutely now that song. What can you tell us about that song? Because I, you know, it sounds like it sounds like, you know, a dude watching a girl you know that he's interested in and so forth. But I feel like there's some other there's some other things in there that you're kind of dealing with in the lyrics. So what what can you tell us about that track? Yeah?

5:24 Speaker 10: Man, So it basically it started off it was going to be like a funny tune because me and my producer and best mate Asa, who I do everything with, write and record everything in the back room. So we like originally were like, let's write a funny sort of song about how we do everything in the back room and we never leave it and stuff, and then we we sort of had the tune down, and then when I got to writing the lyrics, nothing funny came out. A lot of like things that I was probably dealing with internally sort of came out and just spilled onto the page, which I guess is what songwriting is all about.

5:55 Speaker 8: Right, Yeah? Interesting? And what are some of those things that were you know, they come out in the song and the.

6:01 Speaker 10: Word it's all about like my ADHD and like how I feel like the anxiety of that sort of watches me as I'm sort of trying to make it with like music or whatever I'm doing at the time, and like how I can't really run away from it.

6:15 Speaker 9: If that makes sense?

6:16 Speaker 8: It does it does? I think we talked about that the last time you were on the show with us too, about you know, how a lot of creative people have that ADHD and and and how it kind of informs what you do creatively. And how there are ways that you know, it can actually be beneficial, it can it can help you to create. I think we we don't have to rehash all that, because I think we talked about a lot of that last time. But it's interesting that that you kind of expressed that in the lyrics of the song, and again it's it's kind of like, you know, I listened to it and it's like, okay, you know, and I went back and listen to it again and I was like, there's something else going on here.

6:54 Speaker 8: It's interesting.

6:55 Speaker 11: Yeah.

6:56 Speaker 12: Yeah.

6:56 Speaker 10: I like to sort of give them sort of like it's like a double meaning, I guess, because it's cool to have other people say, oh, this feels like this to me, or I think it means this sort of thing, and then to have that like conversation with like someone like yourself as well and be able to be like, well, I when I wrote it, I meant this, But obviously you can interpret however, interpret it, sorry, however you want to. Really like, I think that's the best bit about music really is that lyrics can mean anything to anyone, right.

7:21 Speaker 8: Right, right, absolutely, Well, it's also kind of fun, right, It's it's a it's an adventure when you when you have an idea for a song and you and you embark on creating that and then it ends up being something different than what you had originally in mind. I mean, that's that there's something kind of satisfying about that, right when you because when you are able to surprise yourself as a songwriter and you go, oh, I didn't I didn't know this was going to happen, But this is cool.

7:49 Speaker 13: I like this.

7:49 Speaker 10: You know, well that's literally what happened, like when it happened, and I had all these lyrics sort of written down, so I sat Sometimes I start from like a line, or I'd write like a paragraph how I'm feeling or whatever. But and then I sat there and sort of reflected once the song was finished, and was like, what are these lyrics actually about?

8:06 Speaker 3: Yeah?

8:06 Speaker 9: And I was like, oh, it's actually about my mental health.

8:09 Speaker 10: Actually, I didn't really know what it was about when we recorded it and when I wrote the lyrics as such. It wasn't until like a week later, when when I've got the master's back and I was like, oh, yeah, it's about that.

8:19 Speaker 11: Well.

8:20 Speaker 8: It's interesting that when you when you're in a situation where you know maybe you see someone who you find attractive and you're and you're contemplating. It's funny our our guests that we had on in the first hour of the show today, he had a he had a song that was kind of about that, and you're and you're you're contemplating on how you might be able to approach them. But at it's at that moment that so often all those things that go on in your head that might be hindering you in some way. That's that's really one of those moments where all that comes out right where you start, uh, you know, maybe doubting yourself or you know, should I do this, Should I approach this person or should I just watch them?

8:59 Speaker 8: I suppose in this context from the back room, right, Yeah, it's those moments where you you start really questioning yourself, in doubt in yourself and and and all those those things about yourself that maybe are a little different.

9:13 Speaker 10: Well one percent, I'm quite I'm quite a confident person, like in general, and it isn't to like say, until them sort of situations arise, whether it be talking to someone new or like a new job or something, or going for like an interview or whatever, then you're sort of like, oh, yeah, I do have some other things going on.

9:28 Speaker 9: There is there is something going on in my head that's not just look at me all the time, you know.

9:33 Speaker 8: Right now, what's the situation with as far as playing this live? Have you been able to play this out or you're doing I don't I don't remember what your touring situation was the last time that we talked. But are you playing a lot of shows?

9:46 Speaker 9: So I haven't actually played this one live yet.

9:48 Speaker 10: I've got a run of shows coming up in November around the UK, so I'll be doing one in Liverpool, London, Knowledge and hopefully Manchester. So should have quite a busy November, and that'll be the first time this one's been taken out on the road and give a given a live spin.

10:02 Speaker 8: Oh excellent. You must be excited about that because it's got a vibe, it's got an energy about it, you know. I imagine it'll go over really well with the live crowd.

10:10 Speaker 9: Yeah, I hope.

10:10 Speaker 10: So, Like it's kind of one of those when it gets to the chorus where it just sort of opens up and becomes this other beast like in the verse, is quite intimate and quite like personal.

10:19 Speaker 9: I guess.

10:20 Speaker 10: And then when that chorus hits in and then drums start going a bit mad and frashing on the crash symbol, it starts to yeah, like say, open up, and I hope people are getting on shoulders throwing their arms about all that sort of stuff.

10:31 Speaker 8: I like how you put that too, how it opens up in the chorus, because so much of so much of writing a great song is you know, you build tension in the verses and then the chorus is kind of almost like a relief or you know, it opens up, and and this song that really is very much present. I think that concept in this song because like you hear the bassline in the beginning, you know, that first verse, and it's very you know, it kind of makes you a little anxious, or at least it did me the first time.

10:56 Speaker 8: It was like, you know, it just there's there's an anxiety there almost in that base. It's really in the baseline. I feel like that's kind of the secret to it, you know, and then you get to the chorus and it's like, okay, it's almost like a relief a little bit. But I like that, you know, you build the tension and then you get to the chorus and it's like, Okay, here we are.

11:13 Speaker 10: Yeah, man, I love doing that as well. I'm so glad you've picked up on that. And I think most people who have listened to it have said the same thing. They're sort of like, you're getting a bit moody in these verses note, but then when we get to the chorus, it's like, oh, Rhyme's all right. I mean he's okay, like an uplifting sound in the tune, right. But I'm glad we just doill sort of try to do that on purpose really because I like, like you said, I like the tension and then the release you get when when the chorus kicks in for sure.

11:38 Speaker 8: Yeah. Now are you getting the airplay with the song over there yet or what's that situation?

11:42 Speaker 9: It's been going down really well, mate, good.

11:45 Speaker 10: I think it's probably gone down the best of any of my tunes ever have done, which is amazing.

11:50 Speaker 8: Yeah.

11:50 Speaker 10: A ton of radio stations have been picking up over here, like you guys as well, absolutely backing it, and I love all that.

11:56 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been going down really well.

11:58 Speaker 8: Oh that's outstanding. That's outstanding. And then now are these are these songs gonna be part of a full album or do you have a full album or what's what's the situation there?

12:10 Speaker 9: So what we're doing.

12:11 Speaker 10: The plan is, we actually came up with this on Wednesday, So we had a meeting on Wednesday, just me and as Are, the guy who produces my tunes, and I was like, what should we do because I'm bored of just doing singles, like you say, I'd like to build up to like an album or something like that. Yeah, so that the next song will be another single, and then after that I'm actually gonna be doing a five track EP. Okay, yeah, so that'd be exciting bit more I don't know. The next single is a little bit more less moody, little little bit more less moody, okay, okay, a little bit more uplifting.

12:42 Speaker 10: The lyrical content is still quite not dark, but still quite angry, a little bit of angst in there, okay, But the song itself is a little bit more happy, I guess. And then the EP is going to be a mixture of the two, hopefully gonna sort of bring some more riffy stuff in as well, which is going to be exciting because I've not done that in a long time.

13:02 Speaker 9: But yeah, I can't wait to get going.

13:04 Speaker 8: So does that mean, so will the EP be five new songs or will the EP include the songs that you've released already.

13:10 Speaker 10: It'll be five completely brand new tunes next year, hopefully. I reckon about March time if I was to put a time on it. But yeah, five completely new tunes which I've already written. I was actually finishing off the lyrics to a couple before I got on and chatted with you. Oh yeah, it's exciting, man, it's exciting.

13:25 Speaker 8: Excellent, excellent. So the producer that you work with has he worked with you on everything that you've recorded.

13:31 Speaker 10: So he's worked with me on tomorrow and this one, the next one, and he will be the producer going forward. I used to work with another friend of mine called Sam Wilson on my older tracks. I'm very fortunate to have a lot of very very talented friends. Yeah, because we're all from like the same background and the same like music scene. So it's really cool to be able to pull on people like that and be like, oh, come on mate, let's go down the studio and sort of I see what we can come up with.

13:55 Speaker 8: You know, Yeah, that's fantastic. And then so now, when you play live, are you playing with a full band.

14:01 Speaker 10: So I'm hoping to be doing a full band soon, but at the moment I'm sort of doing them like acoustically on my own. I will say, if anyone's listening to this and you want to book me, I'm not on a boring acoustic artist guy who stands in the corner and plays his song. Yeah, I'm very I'm very larger than life. Come on, then let's pretend there's a band here and let's go for it sort of thing. Nice, So yeah, that will we do it a variety of different ways really, Sometimes like the guy who's produced my tune now Aaron or as he comes up on stage me does some tunes like in a duo setting to do it on my own, and then hopefully next year I'll be getting a proper live band, sort now I reckon.

14:39 Speaker 8: Yeah, excellent, excellent. Yeah, it's a lot of work, tell me about it, mate, it's a lot of work putting all that together. Well, very good. So in a moment, I think we're going to and I wish I wish we had more time. Like I said, we're running a little bit behind today, but I do want to play Tomorrow again at the end of the segment to close out, because I also love that song and I know, thank you mate, and I know we talked about that song the last time you were on. But for newer listeners who might not have heard that conversation, So Tomorrow and this is another song that I really related to in a big way because well, tell us refresh our memories about the message behind it.

15:17 Speaker 10: Yeah, So Tomorrow is a bit of a bit of a deep one. It's about like climate change and how we're a bit scared to talk about them sort of issues still, and how I think we should still be talking We should be talking about those issues that why are we scared to talk about it? And sometimes when you bring them sort of topics up, people shy away from it or probably just like disregard you straight away because they think you're wrong. When it's happened in front of our eyes. Man, to me, we right, we'll start talking about these things.

15:43 Speaker 8: Right, right exactly. Yeah, and you express that in the song and uh, yeah, it's funny. We're having right now here in New Hampshire where we are in the US. We're about to have some eighty degree weather and it's October and that's pretty unnus.

16:02 Speaker 10: We've got a storm going on at the moment, but it's still I was like walking home earlier and it's raining, it's windy, it's cold, and it's warm all at once.

16:10 Speaker 9: How was that happening?

16:12 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, we're in a drought. We've got eighty degree weather in October. It's it's it's wild. Then, you know, the political climate in the US. I mean, I won't get into it, but I'll just say, you know, it's it's not going to get any better as far as addressing these issues, I'll just say that.

16:29 Speaker 9: I don't think it will overhear mate, So I think we're all in the same boat.

16:33 Speaker 8: I think we are. I think we very much are well Ryan, So we will. We will close out with that track before we let you go, though, Where should people know about where to find you online to keep up with everything that you're doing and get access to your music and all that.

16:47 Speaker 10: I'm basically available everywhere any social media. It's just at Ryan Redwood fifty eight. And then Spotify is the save just Ryan Redwood or Apple Music wherever you get your chunes.

16:55 Speaker 9: Yeah, just Ryan Redwood everywhere.

16:57 Speaker 8: Fantastic, fantastic Ryan. We will do this again when the next single is out. Please you know, let us know, let people know, and we'll well, we'd love to give it another premiere, probably have you back on to talk about it. And we love what you're doing. We're big fans, so keep up the great work.

17:12 Speaker 10: Thank you so much for the support, Mat I really do appreciate it. And yes, definitely next single, we'll be back.

17:16 Speaker 9: Let's do it.

17:17 Speaker 8: Awesome sounds good to me. All right, Ryan, we'll let you go.

17:19 Speaker 9: Thank you, take care, cheers, mate, Thank you very much.

17:22 Speaker 8: You got it all right. That is the great Ryan Redwood and we're going to close out this segment with This is the first single that we spun of Ryan's and I really love this song a lot. Pay attention to the lyrics. It does matter.

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24:53 Speaker 8: I love that. The track is called the Ineffectuals and the band is the Fods. And h that is so good. That is so good. And we've got Rob Critchley from the Fods on the phone with us via WhatsApp. Rob, are you there, I'm here, Can you hear me? I can, yes, yes, Hey, I love this. I love that song, and I've been I've been anxious to talk to you. You sent us a couple songs. We're gonna play the other one at the end of the segment. But I love the sound of the Fods. But now it's interesting though, So the Fods tell tell me if I'm if my perception is correct, is it not so much a band but more of a collective?

25:28 Speaker 8: Would collective be a better word, because it seems to it kind of changes in morphs, and and tell us about the Fods.

25:37 Speaker 22: It absolutely changes the morphs. So there's basically two of us who write songs.

25:44 Speaker 11: Okay, I write the lyrics and I write the lyrics and some of the music.

25:47 Speaker 22: And I'm not particularly good musicians, so I send voice notes and you know, tinkerings over WhatsApp, and I send it to my old school friend of thirty five years and I send it over to him who's still in Manchester in the UK, and he's he's been in the music business with various bands for all that time, and he does the majority of the music and putting it all together.

26:20 Speaker 11: And we've got a.

26:23 Speaker 22: Mixed guy who is incredible and he's also dirt cheap for us, at least because of hate and he does the mixing. So there's three of us, and there's also we sometimes use a guitarist out of old old band, and we sometimes use a vocalist guitarist out of our old band from when we were at school. So all and I go all the way back to the I'm trying not to age myself late nineteen eighties, and we were we were in like, you know, a school band, and we tried really hard and we didn't We wrote a few decent songs and we won a Battle of the Bands, and then we all disappeared off to university and he carried on in a different morphed into a different band and they did okay, and we sort of lost.

27:17 Speaker 11: Contact a little bit. Like I was always like sort of following him.

27:20 Speaker 22: And when I was at university in London and his band came down and played in London, so I went and watched it, and so I knew them all and they were good guys, and you know, as the two thousands went along, I think he got a little bit, you know, chewed up by the music industry.

27:40 Speaker 11: Like a lot of people have done.

27:42 Speaker 8: It happens, yeah, yeah, yeah.

27:44 Speaker 22: So he was writing really good songs and you know, playing half decent venues and you know, not getting any traction and not getting any you know, he'd been promised deals by record companies and they've never come to fruition and all that sort of stuff. You know, a tailor's old as the time in the music industry. And during COVID he he got hold of a couple of old bandmates and during COVID they just set up phones and started playing their old stuff and under the name of the Good Stock Project, they eventually released like six songs or something, and they were all done remotely, like in four different rooms, and they found a they found a singer who was really good and she did her part remotely.

28:33 Speaker 11: And this has gotten on to do the Fodds by the way.

28:37 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, I want to learn.

28:39 Speaker 23: Yes.

28:41 Speaker 11: Yeah.

28:41 Speaker 22: So during COVID they did six songs all remotely, put it on an album six CP cord remote and released it.

28:50 Speaker 11: And one of the songs, that's which they didn't.

28:52 Speaker 22: Do because for whatever reason they didn't want it on the CP and the new singer didn't like like it or whatever it was.

29:01 Speaker 11: We're shopping, which you're presuming I think you're going to play later.

29:05 Speaker 22: Yes, yes, so he said to me, He said to me, can can you you sort of rework it and like change some of the lyrics which may be a bit outdated, and you know, we'll we'll re envision it and we'll, you know, see where it goes.

29:21 Speaker 11: So I'm like, yeah, I've always loved shopping. I think it's a great song.

29:24 Speaker 22: And while we were talking about this, we started talking about the old music we released and like the gigs that we played together and all that sort of stuff.

29:32 Speaker 11: So he goes, well, while we're doing this, why don't we go back and find the seven songs which.

29:37 Speaker 22: We did together over a period of like two years in the late nineties and see what we can do with them as well.

29:43 Speaker 11: So that's what we did, and don't argue.

29:46 Speaker 22: EP was the first thing in which we put out as the Odds and so there's the two of us and we used on that EP four different singers and so that's how we sort of developed in to this collective. And so the four different singers like we sort of found because for the first one we didn't have anyone. So we just said the first person who said yes, we were well, let's try it. Let's see and it went quite well. So he did a couple and there's a few other people who got involved. And as as that album, all those songs off that album got a bit more momentum.

30:24 Speaker 11: It started to.

30:25 Speaker 22: Get easier to entice singers to actually come and do it for us. Right, So this is how we ended up with Joe Boo. As you can hear from his vocal performance in the Indefectuals, you can actually sing. You know, he's a real, real talent, and he liked, he liked what we did in Dante in Don't Argue EP and we you know, we've chatted occasionally on other shows and you know, in a couple of Discord channels, and I've downloaded his songs and he's listened to ours. So I blindly and to text to him, you know, a Facebook messenger or whatever, and said, look, do you fancy having to go?

31:06 Speaker 22: We've got a new song lined up.

31:09 Speaker 24: And he's like, yeah, yeah, give me, give me a couple of weeks and then I'll be in some of the other stuff over and when I've got time, I'll have a look. So we send some other stuff over and literally been two weeks it's sent back, you know, vocals for it. Wow, this is he's so much better than we are.

31:27 Speaker 22: Like me and all are like, okay, we've got to like really sort of think about what we're going to do here. Yeah, And we're going right, the lyrics needs changing and like it needs bumping up, and like so we scrabbled around for a couple of weeks and send him back something and it's like, guys, this is brilliant, Like this is coming together really well.

31:45 Speaker 11: And he sent it back and we're like, wow, his vocals are even better on this first that's great. So so so we did all this and.

31:53 Speaker 22: All these things which we are doing are all remote. So Joe's in Florida, I'm in Jersey City and in Manchester in the UK. You know, all these files and things are flying back and forth and uh yeah. So so eventually we got we got to a place where music was getting close to what Joe was putting out.

32:13 Speaker 11: And you know, his his vocals are outstanding.

32:17 Speaker 22: He's done loads and loads but stuff like he's constantly he I think that's what he does is collaborate. He's got like a couple of bands that he's getting a bit more serious with. Okay, but like he's a he's a collaborator and he's been on loads of people's and songs and yeah, people should check him out because he's outrageous.

32:36 Speaker 4: Yeah.

32:37 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's interesting because it's like, something that comes up a lot on the show is you know COVID and how COVID changed so much. And I feel like, obviously it was terrible, but we got to find those silver linings where we can. And I think one of the one of those few silver linings of the pandemic was it kind of forced people to think a little bit outside the box in terms of, you know, the technology already existed, you know, to share files back and forth, and and and and to collaborate via the Internet.

33:07 Speaker 8: But I think what the pandemic did it kind of forced a lot of people to really embrace it more. And so you see a lot more of these kinds of projects now where you know, people aren't even in this case, not even necessarily on the same continent, right, but you can you can collaborate that way, and you can send files back and forth, and people are more comfortable with it now. And I mean, and and you know, the FODS probably, I mean, without the Internet, I think it's safe to say the FODS would not exist as a project, right because you know, yeah, you wouldn't be able to connect all of this.

33:39 Speaker 22: So so if yeah, if you look at it like it used to be, like it used to have to get four or five people into a tiny little room and that's how people used to make music.

33:49 Speaker 11: And it's not wrong with that. I'd love to do that again. Sure, you know, get get, get in a studio or get. Because we we we don't really see the end products.

33:59 Speaker 22: Like I send my bit off and I'm involved in the producing and all that sort of stuff, and then it goes to mix it and he does his stuff and then it comes back to me and I go, I don't really know what more to add to that. It's outstanding, yeah, you know, And I could give him little tip bits and say, oh, at one minute twenty three, can you do this instead of this?

34:25 Speaker 11: And he goes yeah, and it takes like seconds and and he's done. I'm like, okay, that's good. And so the technology is so good these days. You know, he has a real job. He's not a real.

34:38 Speaker 22: Well he is a real mixer because he's incredible at it, but he also has a day job and you know, this is his side hobby. Oh okay, yeah, and he's outstanding. And some of the stuff that we've got coming out. So these two songs, The Ineffectuals and Shopping like came out in January, and we've been We've had I think eight other songs in weird stages of like pre production and sitting with about another band or a singer or sitting somewhere, and there's there's one song that we've been waiting on a singer to do it for like six months and eventually we've just had to say to him, look, it's been far too long when we need to find someone else because and we found someone else and they did it.

35:27 Speaker 11: In like two weeks.

35:30 Speaker 22: So this is this is one of the one of the pitfalls about doing it this way, because someone will with the best intentions, will go, yeah, it's a great song, like I think it will really fit my my voice on my tone, and and I'll get around to it, you know, I've got a couple of things to do, and then you know, in three weeks i'll be there.

35:48 Speaker 11: I'll be on it. So in a month later, I'll text him back and go, how's it going. Oh, I've not quite got around to it yet, you know.

35:55 Speaker 22: Give me, give me a couple of weeks and I'll So this little back and forth goes on and it gets quite awkward. Yeah, no doubt and no doubt, and eventually I had to say to him, look, I know you really want to do this, but like you've had it for six months and pre want to try and get an album out in.

36:11 Speaker 11: January or February or March or sometime. I don't know whether you're going to get me any get me anything to to put on it.

36:22 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I get it.

36:23 Speaker 22: And then we gave it to someone else who turned it around in three weeks. As much as you want a particular person you think this song, I think will and you find a person who you know.

36:37 Speaker 11: I've trolled through all.

36:39 Speaker 22: Sorts of radio stations and streaming platforms just to find like someone who's got a sound which we think will be great for this particular song. And we've also done it right. Just have it and give it a go and see what it comes up with. There was a there was a song on I Don't Argue which was never really meant to be like It turned out to be a bit of a shoot gaze indie song and it was never never meant to be like that.

37:10 Speaker 11: But the guy who we gave it to just gave it that vibe.

37:14 Speaker 22: Yeah, and it came back and we were like well, we weren't expecting this, but this is different book great, you know. So one of the things that we really want to do is have these singers put their mark on our songs as well, because there's no point me's sending a setting in something off and saying, right, I mean this probably won't happen, but like we've got a sound song that sounds like europe m made this like Joey Tempest, right right, that's.

37:41 Speaker 11: Pointless, So we want them to put their own stamp.

37:46 Speaker 22: And we've got obviously, Aura is a female, so we've we're looking to get female singers into it as well, which opens up a whole new.

37:57 Speaker 11: Sort of sound for us.

38:00 Speaker 22: So you know, we're not stuck with just like guys singing like if we like, we've got two on the on the albums coming out that we've we're.

38:08 Speaker 11: Going to release them.

38:08 Speaker 22: We weren't going to even release this, but one of the songs sound came out sounding so good that we're right the middle.

38:16 Speaker 11: Of October we're going to release it and see what people think. And it's nothing. It's not I don't think it's even a rock song.

38:23 Speaker 22: Oh really, it's sort of a blues blues Ballady type thing. Oh nice, you know, may fit on a James Bond theme, so we'll see. But like we love it, so yeah, see what people think.

38:35 Speaker 8: That must be exciting for you though, because as as you're coming up with these ideas for these songs and you're you're putting lyrics together and so forth, that you know, it sounds like it's it's kind of an adventure because you don't know once it leaves your hands, you don't know exactly what's going to happen to it. And and obviously you know you've got to approve whatever whatever happens to it. But but with working with these different singers, you don't know until it happened is what kind of a stamp they're going to put on it.

39:02 Speaker 8: And that just must be that must be very exciting. I would think you know that.

39:07 Speaker 22: It's it's exciting and it's also quite frightening as well, because, like you say, you just don't know, so it's a huge step into the unknown.

39:16 Speaker 11: So we're like, right, there's a song that I wrote.

39:21 Speaker 22: And I was listening to a bit more dancy type of stuff and I was I'd love to love us to put out something because you know, we we don't tend to stick to one genre. I'll just put out something a little bit more dancing, like with a bit of a boogie feel, you know, something like that. And I wrote these lyrics. It's a song called Fuel and hopefully we'll be.

39:41 Speaker 11: Out around Christmas or New York, okay.

39:44 Speaker 22: And I wrote it and it's called Fuel, and I was thinking about, like, you know, maybe a bit hedonistic and dancing at five o'clock in the morning and all that sort of stuff. And the way it's turned out is like, I don't even know what the term for it. It's like sludge stone a metal So it's gone into a totally different like genre and spectrum.

40:14 Speaker 11: I never thought it, but it's brilliant. It's brilliant. And when we.

40:19 Speaker 22: Actually gave it to the band who did it, they were like, what you're expecting from this? And I explained this to them and they were like, right, just leave it with me.

40:28 Speaker 11: I've got this.

40:29 Speaker 22: And he came back and he's a vocal and he's also done a guitar solo for it. And if someone had said to me, I wrote it, you know, eighteen months ago, And if someone said to me eighteen months ago.

40:41 Speaker 11: You'll have this five and a half minute long you know, goes on like that, and I'll be like, Okay, that's cool.

40:52 Speaker 22: But yeah, even writing the lyrics, you don't know where it's it's going to go, and you've always got something you know in your mind slightly yeah, you know who knows?

41:02 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, that's uh, that's really cool. And so where should well? Actually a quick question, what does what does the name mean?

41:11 Speaker 18: Where?

41:11 Speaker 8: Where does the name? You probably get this question what is a far.

41:16 Speaker 12: Right?

41:16 Speaker 22: So if you listen to me, I've got a bit of an accent, right, yes, from a place called Warrington in Cheshire, which is just that side in Manchester in the UK, and we all sort of grew up there and Warrington is like one of these it's like an old mill town and the Euston mill wire in the in the in the factories in Warrington. Yeah, and everyone My accent is not too bad because I would say bad in a broad that's the right word.

41:46 Speaker 11: Sorry, yeah, because I went to University.

41:49 Speaker 22: Of London and then I've been over and I was so was down there for ten years and then I've been over in the States for another ten years.

41:57 Speaker 11: So whatever accent I had a sort of mellowd sure.

42:00 Speaker 22: Well, if you from if you're from Warrington, you say things in a particular way, okay.

42:04 Speaker 11: And all our guitarist is a place called is from a place called Orford in Warrenton.

42:10 Speaker 8: Okay.

42:11 Speaker 11: And if you say Orthored in a Warrington accident, say Orthored.

42:15 Speaker 4: Ah.

42:17 Speaker 11: Yeah, see I do. We've dropped the or off and so basically, if you say it right, you would be the authors.

42:27 Speaker 8: Gotcha.

42:28 Speaker 11: Now we're just the Fodds.

42:30 Speaker 8: Gotcha, gotcha.

42:32 Speaker 22: Yeah, it's it's a it's a shortened version of Orford in a Warranton accent.

42:39 Speaker 8: That makes sense, That makes sense. Well, Rob, Unfortunately, the time goes quickly, and I want to make sure we get this last uh, this last single in shopping. But well, we'll have to have you back Soon's definitely, when the next single is ready, we'll have you back, and we'll we'll book a longer block of time because I'd love to talk to you more.

42:56 Speaker 22: But no, that yeah, that sounds great. The new single, I'll drop it over to you as well. Oh wonderful is very much enough, and it's out on I think October seventeens. Oh okay, so I'll drop that over to you and you can have a little preview for for it and have a little listen and see what thing I would love to love to get on with you again whenever it's good for you to be honest.

43:23 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, great, No, that'll give us an excuse to get you booked again quickly, because I do want to have a longer conversation with you. But well, we're gonna go. We're gonna spend this track shopping and this is with So, this is with Ora Davis on vocals.

43:36 Speaker 11: Correct, Yes, okay, she's yeah.

43:39 Speaker 22: I found her when we first started looking for people, and I never thought you'd give us a shot either. Yeah, but people, people are generous with their time and generous with their talents. And you know, we're grateful for all the people that we've worked with, and we hope they've had a good experience with it as well, because you know, we've got something really good out of all this this experience, and everyone that we speak to it seems to well, you know, people are nice and may not tell us the truth.

44:07 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, gotcha. All right, Rob, we will let you go. We're gonna spin this track. But thank you so much for joining us and yeah, well, we'll have you back on soon for sure.

44:17 Speaker 11: Sounds good. I appreciate you, thanks very much.

44:19 Speaker 8: All right, you got it, Rob, Thank you by bye?

44:21 Speaker 11: All right, bye bye bye.

44:23 Speaker 8: All right. That is that's Rob from the Fods. Let's give this a spin. I really love this too. I love their sound. Both of these songs are really good. But earlier we played the ineffectuals. We're gonna play this. This is Shopping by the Fods. And then after this Jenny and I will be back for a quick minute before we run out of show. We'll tell you about what we're doing later today if you want to join us. But here it is the Fods. The track is called Shopping.

44:51 Speaker 25: See whes Cookyles one.

44:56 Speaker 4: Of the thig.

45:02 Speaker 12: As soon as buy your brand new too, you're just the same all the risks I see you buy and that brand new dress.

45:15 Speaker 1: Something's going wrong.

45:16 Speaker 12: I know it's going to take this long.

45:19 Speaker 1: Somebody gave me out.

45:44 Speaker 25: All right by while crazy, you mustn't ray, I'm this farming just won the follow Bary.

45:56 Speaker 4: Too well bear the brun when you talk about.

46:00 Speaker 1: Says some sass, especially when me.

46:08 Speaker 4: Especially Win.

47:01 Speaker 1: Ho sp we doing sis. She just wants some time.

47:14 Speaker 4: Do the sails got.

47:16 Speaker 18: Some time, so.

47:22 Speaker 1: What are we doing mad ourselves?

47:24 Speaker 8: Just pass it?

48:31 Speaker 1: What do we do? As?

48:37 Speaker 4: Oh?

48:37 Speaker 8: I love that they have such a great sound the Fods. That track is called Shopping and we're gonna have We're gonna have Rob back on us soon because he just I want to have a longer conversation with him. So interesting but great project the Fods. We are running out a show. We got a few minutes left. Jenny, you want to mention a couple of things.

48:58 Speaker 26: Absolutely well if you want to join Matt and I later on today from four to six pm at the Great North Ale Works, Jesse Coffee is performing and Matt and I are delighted that we're gonna be able to be there to see him play.

49:10 Speaker 8: Come join us.

49:11 Speaker 26: And next weekend is the opening or shall I say, the viewing of the Exquisite Corpse show, which was at the Mosaic Our Collective. The calling hours will be from four to eight pm on October eleventh. This show will be there from October sixth through November second. Please go to the Mosaic at collective dot com for more information. They get a lot going on, some artist talks and things like that. So definitely go check them out on the website and if you want information more on me, go to Gencoffee dot com.

49:42 Speaker 26: J E n N co f f ey dot com.

49:45 Speaker 8: Oh, calling hours, it took me a second to get that calling hours. Yes, it's the Exquisite Corps. Yes, yes, And.

49:52 Speaker 26: When you're at their website there is an open call coming up, so come submit your rs.

49:55 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, very good and uh, let's see if you want to keep up with every I'm doing. Matt Connorton dot com is my website all the content. In addition to this show, Matt Connorton Unleashed, which we have the honor and privilege of doing every Saturday morning here from the studios of WMNH ninety five point three FM, there's also the podcast version of the show where we do some things that don't necessarily fit the format here, and we also have Tough Bumps. I believe Eric Pilter and I are doing a brand new episode of Tough Bumps on Sunday.

50:24 Speaker 8: And always lots going on. So you can go to my website Matt Connorton dot com and if you would like to book a hypnotherapy session, you can do that too, And if you want to learn more about that again, Matt Connorton dot com. You can contact me right through the website or on social media and I'm easy to find, or you can always just Google me. Because Connorton is not a particularly common name, so there is another Matt Connerton here in the state of New Hampshire. But he's my uncle, so you know, almost it doesn't count.

50:53 Speaker 8: But on that note, thank you for Thank you to everybody who joined us today. Of course, in the first hour if you missed it live here on Saturday, if you were listening live, we had, let's see, first hour we had Mark Winters, second hour we had Dennis and Troy from the Gray Curtain, and in the third hour we had the great Ryan Redwood followed by Rob critch Lee from the Fods. So if you missed any part of today's show, it will be up in just a little bit at wmnhradio dot org and in my website Matt Connorton dot com.

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