Matt Connarton Unleashed 11-22-25 hour 2

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Speaker 7: Oh, that's another great track from Jamie Higgs. And we're gonna be talking with Jamie in just a moment. Welcome everybody. We have entered our number two New Marrow dose of Matt Connorton Unleashed, and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. And of course you can listen to the show from anywhere. Go to Matt connorton dot com slash live for all your live streaming options, social media links, contact in FO, show archives, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 7: If you are listening live. Today is Saturday, November twenty second, twenty twenty five. And uh, let's see. I think we have Jamie on the line with us. Hi, Jamie, are you there?

Speaker 8: He muss, how about you?

Speaker 7: Hey, doing well? Welcome back to the show. It's great to have you back.

Speaker 8: Yeah, on you betty much. I'm glad to be back home.

Speaker 7: Absolutely so. I love that song We Talk. Of course, the last time we had you on, you just come out with Peace in Your Sound, which we are going to play again at the end of our conversation today. But I love I love this song We Talk. That is so good. Uh, everything about it is great. I love your voice, the production is great. Just a really really great track. And this is this is pretty new, right, this just came out.

Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's a month or so old.

Speaker 7: Okay, okay, yeah, so so pretty new. What can you tell us about this about this song?

Speaker 8: Like, what is it?

Speaker 7: You know, it's I feel like there's some deeper meaning to the lyrics. But uh, and you know, when we had you on before, we talked a lot about the meaning of the lyrics a piece in your sound. But I'm curious about we talk what this song means to you.

Speaker 8: It is a deep one.

Speaker 7: Yeah.

Speaker 9: I've been with my wife now for ten years, married just over the year, but we've been together ten years. Yeah, and if you've been in a long term relationship, you'll know there's ups and dance, sure, and this was a song about one of the dance I was speaking to me mate, he was having a similar love with his girlfriend at the time.

Speaker 8: Yeah, and we're just.

Speaker 9: Saying, like we end up sitting up late talking and yeah, I was just thinking about how problems and we just we talked through them.

Speaker 7: Yeah.

Speaker 8: Yeah, that was like kind of the idea of the song.

Speaker 9: But I kind of wanted the song to finish unresolved, So you don't actually know whether they figured it out, so whether they broke up.

Speaker 7: Interesting yeah, interesting idea. Yeah, so this is a deeply personal one to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I remember, I remember when we talked about Piece in your Sound. I mean that you know that that song was personal too, in the sense that from from what I recall from our conversation, it was about how, you know, finding you know, kind of finding peace in the chaos of life and and uh. But but this one obviously, but I think both songs are are highly relatable. This one is relatable because anyone who's been in a long term relationship, you know, you do go through your ups and downs and or even a short term relationship and uh uh, so I think this is very relatable as well.

Speaker 7: But when you when you write a song like this and then and then your wife here is it? Like what, I'm curious what the what the reaction is, I mean, does she like it or does she kind of say, oh, I don't know, this is uh a little much?

Speaker 8: Or what? Like?

Speaker 7: How does she respond to it when you present a song like this.

Speaker 8: To your Yeah, I fully get the nerves laugh today.

Speaker 9: I get it because I was sure how she'll be actively but she actually preferred it, Yeah, which I was surprised because I think Piecing sounds a better sort of song genetically. Well, I suppose anyone who understands that song kind of connects with it. So it's got because it's got that deeper meaning where piecing sounds a bit more. It's a bit more for everyone, right, we got more of a specific audience, and obviously because Tash and my wife knew where.

Speaker 8: To come from, I think she's just kind of related with it.

Speaker 7: Sure, But so she really likes this one.

Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, it's a I'd say it's a better written.

Speaker 9: Song, okay in terms of songwriting perspective.

Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah. Does she give you feedback like, like does she does she ever say, like, you know, I don't know, I would change the her or maybe do this differently, or does she just does she just kind of take it in and give you her her overall impression of it.

Speaker 8: She kind of just stays away from it, does she really?

Speaker 7: Yeah?

Speaker 8: Yeah, it's kind of.

Speaker 9: Like, well, that's like my outlet, Yeah, which is obviously why a lot of new songs come out personal.

Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like my it's like my personal therapy.

Speaker 7: Oh interesting, Yeah, yeah, now that makes sense. I'm also curious too, So the last time we talked, which that wasn't that long ago, but I think, tell me if I'm remembering this correctly, you were in the process of putting a band, because you you've been operating as a solo artist. But I think you were either in the process of putting a band together. You had put a band together. Am I on the right track with that?

Speaker 9: You are on the right track, mark, Yet I basically put a quick band together for a gig in the June. Yeah, and then and through likeate, July and August, it was a bit chop and changey and then now we've settled into a good band. Okay, yeah, quite consistent.

Speaker 7: No, okay, excellent. Well, like like when you when you talk about you know, some of the the problems with with putting the band together at first, like what what did you run into was it was it difficult to find people who just you know, were who could play well enough to pull these songs off live or what was you know, because I've been in bands, and I know there are a lot of different challenges, you know, when you're starting something kind of new, or you have people you know, you've got your established project and you have people you're bringing into it.

Speaker 7: Yeah, No, there's there's a lot of things that can that can come up.

Speaker 8: Yeah, No idea is that. I think the biggest thing for me is chemistry.

Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

Speaker 8: I think.

Speaker 9: If if you're a good guitarist, but you need a great guitarist. Yeah, but the chemistry is right, they can get better, true, So it's like the chemistry is kind of more important than the ability. Luckily, we seem to have struck gold and we have both chemistry and quality in our band.

Speaker 8: So yeah, any lucky.

Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's that's excellent.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 7: So how long has the It can't have been too long now, right, a few months that the current lineup has existed.

Speaker 9: Yeah, So I think we done maybe the last four or five gigs with the same band. Maybe maybe like one or two couldn't make it or something. So yeah, we've maybe like we've used Tom on basse for one gig and then Hardison who plays keyboard, he's missed two so gigs just.

Speaker 8: Because he's so busy. Sure, so part from that were pretty solid.

Speaker 7: Yeah, good good. Now do you feel like, how do you feel on stage with a band versus if you're if you're kind of doing the so thing? Because you know, to me, I mean just from my own experience, when you're when you're with the band, It's kind of the safety in numbers, right, Like you just you're all in it together, and it just feels like there's there's not as much that can you know, even if something goes wrong, you know, you're you're all you're all in there together. You're like a like a little army, a little battalion on stage.

Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's kind of how I always thought of it. But I'm curious how the how the transition has been for you, especially where you know these these players are coming in and playing your music that that you've created. I mean, do do you feel more confident with the band on stage or is it harder? In some ways?

Speaker 9: I think it was harder first because I was just so used to me and my guitar. You can you can kind of go where you feel yep yeap with the band, it's got to be a bit more structured and follow the music. Yeah, But now I've kind of settled into that. It's so much better.

Speaker 8: Oh good, I feel like Superman on stage.

Speaker 7: Yeah.

Speaker 8: It's like I don't know to describe, but I still love me acoustic gigs because.

Speaker 9: That's like intimate and personal and you can really like connect with the songs again.

Speaker 8: But then when I go live, I just feel like a show man with the big band.

Speaker 7: Oh that's cool, that's excellent. Yeah, but you're still doing some Are you still doing some solo acoustic gigs?

Speaker 8: Yeah, more so with Eddie.

Speaker 9: So Eddie's like re main guitarists and me and him kind of like do a few duet gigs where we just got with acoustics. So there's a local artist called Lewis Betty and he's actually moved out to Canada, okay, and he's done some he's done some big gigs over like Canada and North America and stuff, and we got to support him in Liverpool recently and we've just done being Eddie with the two guitars.

Speaker 8: I think it's like it's a good opening to a gig. Yeah, and we loved it.

Speaker 7: It was yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent. I read something too about did you have you been performing or did you perform recently at a sports event?

Speaker 8: Yeah. So when Liverpool Football Club we won the league in May, yeah.

Speaker 9: I want to say it's what May and the day we were going to win the league, well we all assumed we were going to win it.

Speaker 8: Yeah, the new loads of the.

Speaker 9: Fans were going to lie in the streets before the game, so like increduce the players as they were coming in. Oh interesting, So the club, Yeah, the clubs have been good ideas put like a lot of music and as the coach was coming in, the team coach. Ye, so luckily they picked me. And there must have been ten, fifteen, twenty people. Oh wow, so we're all setting off fliers and yeah, all kinds.

Speaker 8: It was madness. See that was surreal.

Speaker 7: And then so you performed there with the band.

Speaker 8: No, that was just on the only me guitar.

Speaker 7: Oh my god, really in front of all those people? What what was that like? Was that I would think that would be a little bit scary. Well, I mean, you know, in a good way, but I mean, was it or how did you feel doing that?

Speaker 8: I wouldn't say scary.

Speaker 9: It was the sound system. I knew the sound system aren't going to be big enough, so it was like it was like anxiety. The anxiousness because of that. But the actual singing of the songs all that, I've done it every week, so that didn't really phase me. Sure, But what kind of ended up happening is I'll start singing one of the Liverpool songs and then the face few hundred thousand people start singing it, and then I could name myself and then the rest of the street will take over.

Speaker 8: Oh wow, like a wave.

Speaker 7: Yeah that sounds challenging.

Speaker 8: Yeah, but it was full like I once a kind of relaxed and thought, well, that's the way it is.

Speaker 10: Yeah.

Speaker 8: I just stopped a few times just watching them. Yeah, I'm getting.

Speaker 11: To do this.

Speaker 7: Oh wow, is there a video of that online on YouTube or anything. I'm curious to see that.

Speaker 8: I think there's a small video and we TikTok, but I've not seed a loft from And I said this to our manager recently. I was like, I've got all this lapool footage and I've never used it. Yeah, should swing at someone else.

Speaker 7: Yeah, that's uh yeah, I'm very very curious just to see that. Actually, that sounds like such a unique experience. Another thing I love.

Speaker 8: Look, I'll send you someone here. What's up?

Speaker 7: Well, I'm sorry, what did you say.

Speaker 8: I'll have a look on my phone. I'll send you someone what's up?

Speaker 6: Oh?

Speaker 7: Perfect? Yeah, awesome. I would love that. Yeah, I'd love to see that. I'd love to see that. Another thing I read too, that I wanted to ask you about so going back to piece in your sound for a moment. Is it's true it's up over one hundred thousand streams.

Speaker 8: No, it's all about fifteen thousand.

Speaker 7: Oh, fifteen thousand. Okay, No, that's still pretty good.

Speaker 8: It's still big for us.

Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, No, that's fantastic. Yeah, that's great. That song. I would imagine that goes over well live right.

Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it's we play it on the Friday Saturday night and local bars and stuff.

Speaker 8: Yeah, and it goes down well. So it's a very clatchy, it's got upbeat feel.

Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, it's cool. Yeah, no, I would imagine that's a lot of fun live. Now, what's kind of the so we talk obviously the newest single and then do you have another one on the way or what's what's kind of your future trajectory at this point?

Speaker 8: So yeah, so would in a little bit of a good position at the minute with.

Speaker 9: We've got a couple of big promoters kind of negotiating with us a bit.

Speaker 8: That's the right team.

Speaker 7: Oh good.

Speaker 9: So we've got one gig coming up on the fifth of December, and that's with like a big promoter in the UK called this Feeling, so that's kind of like a trial and hopefully we do well on that gig and then that opens a big door with them. We're also talking to I Love Live, which a massive in Liverpool, and we're looking at doing stuff with them next year.

Speaker 8: So we're just kind of putting an action plan together.

Speaker 9: So we're in the studio in January, we're sorting about doing three songs in like a couple of days and then that kind of sets us up for like most of the year because then you can like released once a February, one early summer, one late summer, and like that kind.

Speaker 8: Of sets you up for the year.

Speaker 7: Yeah. Do you have plans to put these into an EP or an album or or just doing singles for now?

Speaker 9: Again, we're sort of debating it, yeah, So there's a bit of a toss up between do you just release singles or do you release an EPH And you can kind of do it both. So we've put two singles out, we could put a third single out, yeah, and then when you do the fourth you release that as an EP with the four songs.

Speaker 7: Yeah.

Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm trying to get the best of both, but it's a let's ghost that at a minute.

Speaker 7: There's there's so many different ways to do it. I mean, that's that's one of the interesting challenges. You know, when I was growing up, I might have said this last time we talked, but when I was growing up, it was pretty pretty straightforward. You know, first single goes to radio four to six weeks before the album, and then the album comes out, and then if all goes well, you know, you do the second single and go from there. But now today, I mean, there's so many different ways to do it. And yeah, it seems like a lot of the guests that we've had recently their strategy is do a series of singles that do eventually coalesce into an EP or an album.

Speaker 7: But yeah, but there's no there's no shortage of different strategies you can use.

Speaker 9: So I think I think that's what most people try and do now, is keep releasing singles, hope and one of them kind of blows up a bit. Yeah, yeah, and then from nothing might get some sort of offer to go and record a full album.

Speaker 8: Something along them lines.

Speaker 7: Right right, yeah, absolutely, yeah, so many ways to do it. Well, Uh, Jamie, it's it's wonderful to talk to you this morning or I don't know what time it is there, it's probably is it afternoon.

Speaker 8: There, three o'clock in the afternoon, three o'clock in the afternoon.

Speaker 7: So wonderful, wonderful to talk to you this afternoon. It's great to have you back, and you know we'll do it again when when the next singles out. We'd love to have you back. I love what you're doing, and uh, in a moment, we'll finish the conversation with a piece in your sound. For those who who did not hear our previous conversation, though, can you because I part of this is just selfishly I want to hear it again because I love this song so my which, as you know from the last time we talked at absolutely adore the song.

Speaker 7: But what is this about again? For newer listeners who might not.

Speaker 9: Know, well, fairstly, thank you very much because I massively appreciate people let yourself support on the music for us, because if people don't, we might as well just stay in the plattice room, right, So we do appreciate it. Yeah, the song itself is kind of explainatory to my life because it's very loud and chaoto. But the more thoughts about it. I was like, everyone's so busy, Like there's so much going on in the world. I don't know whether it's always been like this or whether it's modern times, but it just seems crazy, so loud, and once I kind of just accepted it.

Speaker 9: I thought, you know what, I'm very lucky. I've got amazing wife, two beautiful kids. I'm a full time singer. Like that's like the dream. I'm like, once a kind of accepted, but I'm I've got piece in the sound.

Speaker 8: M h.

Speaker 7: Yeah.

Speaker 8: The song just kind of came from that. It's like, fine piece in your sound and you'll love life.

Speaker 12: M h.

Speaker 7: Yeah.

Speaker 8: Absolutely, obviously if you're here.

Speaker 9: In some of the lyrics, I kind of have voted a bit to me wife because it's like sort of makes it a bit love related.

Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, it's more just about like find your piece in your sound.

Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, absolutely, No, I think that's uh. I think that's pretty relatable. A lot of us have chaotic lives, that's for sure. That's for sure. So we're gonna we're gonna hit that track in a moment. We'll let you go. But Jamie Higgs, again, thank you so much for joining us. I look forward to the next single and and and talking to you again and keep up the great work. We're we're really big fans over here, so so we.

Speaker 9: Thank you very much, Matt, absolutely thank you to everyone listening as well, really appreciate it.

Speaker 7: Absolutely. All right, we'll let you go. Jamie Higgs, thank you so much and we'll we'll talk to you soon. Take care, jeers, Mat, thank you all right, bye bye, all right. That is the great Jamie Higgs. And without further ado, we're gonna hit this track. I love this so much. Uh, this is this piece in your sound. Bye, Jamie Higgs.

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Speaker 7: The name of the track is my prettiest mistake. The band is Ath and we've got Adam Hughes from Ath with us. We're gonna speak with him in just a second. Welcome everybody. We are, of course enjoying our number two. We're about a little more than halfway through our number two. Numaradosa Matt Connerton unleashed on this Saturday. If you are listening live November twenty second, twenty twenty five, here from the studios of WMNH. And let's go go ahead and get that mic up and get Adam on the line with us.

Speaker 7: Adam, can you hear us?

Speaker 8: Hey?

Speaker 22: How's it going? Man?

Speaker 1: Good?

Speaker 7: Good, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 8: Now.

Speaker 7: Is anyone else from the band with you or is it just you?

Speaker 15: Sadly?

Speaker 7: That's all right, No, We're happy to have you here. I love that song so much. That is so good. And I did listen to some other stuff too from the band. Uh, great, great stuff, thanks man.

Speaker 8: Thanks.

Speaker 7: By the way, so I'm looking at I was gonna ask you, uh, where the name at H comes from? And I'm looking at your name and noticing your middle name, by the way, you and I have the same middle name, Thomas, And I'm wondering is that yeah? Yeah, so we have something in common. I'm wondering, is that where the name comes from? At You are at H in effect?

Speaker 5: Yeah?

Speaker 11: Something, it's yeah along those lines. You started off as a solo project.

Speaker 7: Ah, yes, that seems.

Speaker 11: When when the lads joined in, that's that's when we decided we're gonna put it down to a H instead not just me.

Speaker 7: Oh, I got you. That seems to be a trend lately, it's funny.

Speaker 3: Uh.

Speaker 7: I don't know if you heard. In the previous segment I talked with Jamie Higgs and other great artists from from the UK, and yeah, he was telling me about how, you know, he started out as a solo artist and now he's you know, he's put a band together. He's still performing as Jamie Higgs, but but he's got a band with him, and that that seems to be the trend.

Speaker 12: You know.

Speaker 7: Uh, the sole artists, songwriters, they get a little lonely, I think works.

Speaker 11: Yeah, I think I think there's usually one person who starts it off yep, and you bring people around you to help you play live usually and then and I turned into such a collaborative process that I thought we should just be a band and we're better as a collective rather than me just on my own.

Speaker 7: Well that's that tells you too, that you've really got something there, right when you when you have something that sort of happens organically like that, you know, you put this, you put this group of people together to play your songs and then it ends up being so good you're like, oh, we should just make this a band. I mean that that's pretty cool. So was that not your intention originally, Like, like, had that not happened, had that not gone as well as it was, do you think you'd still be a solo artist.

Speaker 22: I don't Yeah, maybe, I don't know. I wouldn't have given up on music.

Speaker 7: Yeah, of course, never give up on music. Yeah, you never know.

Speaker 22: Where life takes you. Out of hope. That was in a band. I always think.

Speaker 11: I always think the process of music is but as a collective rather than a singular person.

Speaker 10: Yeah.

Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, so I'd always like to be with other people.

Speaker 11: Plus I'm not that good man.

Speaker 13: What was it?

Speaker 6: Uh?

Speaker 16: Was it easy?

Speaker 7: It sounds like for you because some people struggle with this. It sounds like for you though, it wasn't that difficult to kind of let go a little bit and open yourself up to that. Because some people can't do it. Some people say, you know, I've got these songs that I've written, and these are my songs, and if you're coming in, you're going to perform them my way. But these are my songs, and and people are some people are very protective sort of of their work that way. But it sounds like for you it wasn't really difficult to open up.

Speaker 11: No, absolutely, no, I mean that takes like great pride and all the stuff that we're doing right now, especially that it's all written by me.

Speaker 22: Yeah, but there's there's an album.

Speaker 11: With I don't care.

Speaker 22: I don't care, I couldn't come.

Speaker 11: I'd like I'd like people to hear my ideas and the projects that I couldn't care if it's my face on it or if I stood at the back of it.

Speaker 22: That's like making music.

Speaker 7: Man, that's excellent.

Speaker 21: Yeah.

Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't have your own ego getting in the way, which is good because.

Speaker 11: Some if I definitely do, probably do let where you go take over a little bit sometimes.

Speaker 22: Really Yeah, I mean I think.

Speaker 11: Everybody in music you've got to have a bit of any ego. You've got to have a bit of pride about it that you're doing.

Speaker 7: Yeah, so throwing but but but it's not. At the same time, it's not getting in the way.

Speaker 22: Yeah, it's not. It's not getting in the way. I'm just I let it. I let it do his thing, I guess.

Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely So how long how long has ath officially been a band? It has it been less than a year? It seems like it's kind of new, right, Oh.

Speaker 22: Yeah, I guess it would be the first eighty H gig. It's been about eight prol.

Speaker 7: Maybe oh wow, oh no, oh no sorry June okay, oh yeah so really really not that.

Speaker 22: Long headline gig.

Speaker 7: Wow.

Speaker 11: When we decided we're going to cement it as at H the band rather than Adam Thomas Hughes and the.

Speaker 7: Band, Yeah, so you're off. You're off to a very strong start, that's for sure.

Speaker 22: Thank you, Thank you man.

Speaker 7: Absolutely. Now, as as these members have come into the band, are they also contributing to the songwriting as you go forward? Or is that is that still more just you? Or how does that work?

Speaker 22: There's there's no rules.

Speaker 11: There's there's no rules, man, there's We've got to the backing guitarist, Paddy He He's wrote a song that I think will end up being one of an an eighty hate song. And I've got no bums or anything, you know what I mean. I'm not going to let that bother me because I want to be a song right.

Speaker 9: Yeah.

Speaker 11: If it's a good song man, we're going to do it. But so far it has just been me who wrote the lyrics and melodies usually Yeah, but I don't care going forward.

Speaker 8: I noticed.

Speaker 22: I guess I'll just bring some ideas.

Speaker 7: Yeah. No, that's great. I noticed too. Now tell me if I'm if I'm right about this? Uh looking at looking at the backgrounds of the members of the band, are you guys all like majors in music at university?

Speaker 12: No?

Speaker 11: Kind of kind of okay, kind of we've got I think most of the lads are studying or did study at university something to do with music.

Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, so that's interesting. So you're all, I mean, you all know what you're doing. You know, you're not you know, I mean you're not You're not just dabbling in this like you you know, you're at a young age. You're you're all pros. Like you've got some some actual education in music, which is great.

Speaker 21: Yeah.

Speaker 22: I definitely don't flaunt that about that. I know what I'm doing.

Speaker 11: I'm a very basic intermediate player myself. But we've definitely got two or three of the lads in the band classically they know what they're on about.

Speaker 7: Yeah, so that really helps me. No, that's excellent.

Speaker 14: Yeah.

Speaker 7: And then so in terms of since you've played your first show as a band, you said that was in June.

Speaker 22: Right, yes, as a under the Ah collective. Okay, we did play a few shows before.

Speaker 8: That, oh.

Speaker 7: Gotcha? So now since then? I mean my impression is you've you've got a lot of momentum in a short time. Are you Are you playing out a lot? Are you doing a lot of shows?

Speaker 8: We have been.

Speaker 11: Yeah, we've been been shows every week every week, which our size and at the start of a musical project. I guess that is a little bit unheard of that you could be playing every week. But yeah, no, we're trying. We think love music's our favorite the music. Oh yeah, playing in front of people?

Speaker 1: Did you perform it?

Speaker 7: Tell me if I'm saying this correctly. Wigan or Wagon Warriors Rugby, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11: Yeah, we played at that stadium once for that was no longer will it is to open up a big match for them, which was a really big moment for us, one of the best Cakes have ever played.

Speaker 7: No kidding. How many people were at that? That must have been a big crowd, right for something like that.

Speaker 11: Yeah, I think the it was twenty to twenty two thousand, oh my god, yeah, tickets sold. I think when we were playing it was more like fifteen or sixteen. Yeah, but definitely it was still and you know what's crazy, man, it's I was far less nervous for that.

Speaker 22: Than plenty of the other gigs that we've done in front of fifty people.

Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I think I kind of understand. I mean, obviously, you know, that's a you know, playing in front of thousands and thousands of people at an event like that's a big deal. But I can kind of I can kind of guess. I mean, I'm curious to hear what you say, but I can kind of guess that maybe because when you're in a when you're in a in front of fifty people, that's just such a much more intimate thing.

Speaker 11: And yeah, I think every artist, so no matter how big or small you whoever you talk to, will say the same thing. When you play to fifty or one hundred people, it's so much more intimate, and you focus in on all the stuff that you'd do.

Speaker 22: In even more than when you plan in front of thousands of people.

Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know, and obviously you know there's people like if you're on stage, you look out into that into a small crowd and you can see people you actually know, and.

Speaker 11: You see the eyes looking at you and you see the eyes. Yeah, in thousands, it could just be a bit of a like a blur. It's just like a wall of stuff is in front of you.

Speaker 7: Yeah. I remember a long time ago reading an interview with Don Henley of the Eagles. He was talking about how when the Eagles first got really big, he would get terrible stage fright. So when because he was afraid of being in front of these big crowds, so he would intentionally, you know, he never really wore glasses, but he wouldn't put his contact lenses in because he was nearsighted. But he wouldn't put his contacts in before they went on stage because he didn't want to be able to see the crowd of people.

Speaker 7: So he'd be behind the drums, and to him it was like, yeah, he could of them, but he couldn't actually see them.

Speaker 22: Awesome.

Speaker 11: That's that's awesome, to be honest, I did something similar when I did most of My eyes are closed for most of the most of the show.

Speaker 7: Oh there you go, Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 11: It just happens. I think it's like a subconscious thing that I do. Yeah, it just closes because I start thinking about the music. I guess, and thinking about my playing and singing rather than thinking about who's staring at me.

Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. Also, see something here about the Deaf Institute in Manchester. Obviously that's Manchester, UK where in so no one's so none of our listeners are confused. We're in Manchester, yes of course. But and did you sell that out the Deaf Institute in Manchester?

Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, the first iconic venue said that that was the first gig with first headline gig we did as a band and it was the best moment of my life so far.

Speaker 9: Wow.

Speaker 7: Oh that's incredible. That's incredible. So what is kind of the forward trajectory for you guys, because this is a subject that comes up all the time on the show, is talking about strategy in terms of releasing music and the cadence with which you release music. And I know you've got some singles, but did I read this correctly too that you've you've got a lot of things you've recorded that you haven't released yet. Is that true? Yeah?

Speaker 11: Yeah, we've got about we're sitting on We're sitting on a lot of music right now, to be honest to if you that we're ready to next year, there's going.

Speaker 22: To be a bit of a refresh with a t H where we.

Speaker 11: We go for a very not different sound, but we're a sound we're very happy and proud of. Yeah, and we're just waiting for the right moment to kick that off. Okay, think that's going to be January first. Oh, so we're excited for next year's.

Speaker 7: Do you know in terms of releasing that music as you do that in starting in January, the refresh as you put it, Uh, do you know is there going to be an album do you think? Or or is there going to be another series of singles.

Speaker 11: Or there'll be a series of singles first, and we're gonna we're gonna lead up to a big EP.

Speaker 22: That hopefully will be next year. Okay is the plant and I'm very very proud of it. I can't say much about the EP though right now.

Speaker 7: Okay, okay, understood, understood, Well, you gave us some clues. That's good, that's good.

Speaker 16: Yeah.

Speaker 21: Yeah.

Speaker 7: And then so the single, oh, let me well, actually let me ask you this. I'm going to kind of backtrack a little bit, you know, because because we did play the single, which I love, my prettiest mistake you've got other music online that I'm curious if this is actually from There's another track that I found of yours that I love called left Behind? But is that is that sort of pre band.

Speaker 9: Officially?

Speaker 8: Kind of? Yeah?

Speaker 7: Okay, Well, to be honest, all of.

Speaker 11: It was the last two Pretty Is Mistake and left Behind were made with the band, okay, but they were made when.

Speaker 22: It was a solo act.

Speaker 7: Oh okay.

Speaker 11: Whereas the stuff that's all been made for next year is all the band stuff.

Speaker 7: I gotcha.

Speaker 11: So yeah, but no, a very left behind kids kind of similar to what we're doing next year.

Speaker 7: Definitely, I'm sorry, Yeah, and and thank you. I the correct title title is left Behind Kid. I think that through the kid. The kid is in parentheses and the title, so in my mind, I just ignored the kid part. But left Behind that's a great song too. I think I'm probably going to play that at the end of our our segment. And also also I might sneak and uh you did? I found this on YouTube? You guys did a cover of Arizona by the by Wonder Horse and this is that The Barn Live Session. Now that's not a show that I'm familiar with, but is that a.

Speaker 7: Is that a YouTube show where they have musicians come in or what is the barn?

Speaker 1: The Barn is.

Speaker 22: Completely us. It's our rehearsal space.

Speaker 1: Is the Bard?

Speaker 7: Oh okay?

Speaker 11: Yeah, yes, So when we do some recordings in there, we like to call them the Barn sessions. If you're just this shed that we've turned into a studio, we've just named it the Barn and then you're going to see a lot more of the Barn next year.

Speaker 8: Definitely.

Speaker 22: We love the live stuff.

Speaker 7: That's fantastic. Yeah, because I also love this. I love the I might sneak this in too. I might play both of those at the end of our conversation if I have time, because I also love this. I'm not familiar with the band Wonder Horse.

Speaker 22: Oh man, you need to do it.

Speaker 8: Do it?

Speaker 11: Yeah, fucking when you get home tonight, put your headphones on and listen to their out of them.

Speaker 1: Where are they?

Speaker 7: Where are they from? Are they? Are they from over there?

Speaker 8: Yeah?

Speaker 11: They are UK acts, okay, from London and Cornwall. And I think you'll be into them if you like you a bit more grunge, punky rock.

Speaker 7: I guess yeah.

Speaker 11: It's been adopted into the indie scene really right now. But at the heart of it, it's punk and grunge okay, and they.

Speaker 22: Are possibly our biggest inspirations.

Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, I'll check them out because you guys did this cover of Arizona. It's really good, really good, really good. Well, Adam, that time does go quickly, but we will definitely have you back on in the future. I'd love to as ATH is releasing new music, we'd love to have you back on. Love what you're doing to love to really great. Before we let you go, Like I said, we're gonna hit this track, left Behind, another great song. But before we go, where's the best place for people to go online to keep up with everything that you guys are doing.

Speaker 11: I'd say everybody go and check out the Instagram. We're very on it with the Instagram. We're posting announcements for shows and music that's coming out.

Speaker 22: Okay, So it's official.

Speaker 11: At H on all social media platforms, and definitely check out the Instagram.

Speaker 8: Guys.

Speaker 7: Absolutely all right, we'll let you go for now. We're gonna hit this track. But Adam Hughes of at H, thank you so much, my friend, And like I said, we will definitely definitely talk again in the future, but absolutely as well. Oh that would be excellent.

Speaker 22: We'll jump over that side.

Speaker 7: Of the fantastic can't wait, can't wait? All right, Adam, we'll talk to you soon. Take care, see him on bye bye, all right. That is Adam Hughes from the band at h and as promised, let's give this suspend. This is another great song from them. This is called left behind Kid.

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