Field Dispatch
Matt Connarton Unleashed 11-22-25 hour 3
Game Plan
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Speaker 9: Such a great track? That is when Charlie Nyland or Niland?
Speaker 9: I think it's Niland, but we're going to ask him
Speaker 9: in just a moment because he is joining us online.
Speaker 9: Welcome everybody, if you are listening live. Today is Saturday,
Speaker 9: November twenty two, twenty twenty five. This is Matt Connorton
Speaker 9: Unleashed and we have entered our number three New Marrow
Speaker 9: trace of our program this morning from the studios of
Speaker 9: WMNH ninety five point three FM in Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire.
Speaker 9: And of course you can stream the show from anywhere.
Speaker 9: Go to Matt connorton dot com slash live for all
Speaker 9: of your live streaming options, social media links, contact infosho, archives,
Speaker 9: et cetera, et cetera. But let's get Charlie in here
Speaker 9: because I am dying to talk with him. Charlie, are
Speaker 9: you there, Hi, Matt, Hey, Welcome to the show. First question,
Speaker 9: how do you say your last name?
Speaker 3: Nilandland?
Speaker 9: Okay?
Speaker 12: Good? I got it right.
Speaker 9: I thought so, but I wasn't one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 9: I love that song when and we'll talk about that,
Speaker 9: and we'll talk about a lot of things. But what
Speaker 9: a great track. Who is that on the song with
Speaker 9: you at the end? Who's rapping?
Speaker 3: His name is Spirit Child. He's based out of Staten Island.
Speaker 3: I've known him here in the New York City area
Speaker 3: for about ten years. For we both are in this
Speaker 3: thing called the Bushwick book Club. It's a performance series. Oh,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you more about it when we get to
Speaker 3: the song.
Speaker 9: But he's great, sure, sure, yeah, no, he's really good.
Speaker 9: It's kind of it's one of those things where when
Speaker 9: you listen to the song for the first time, you
Speaker 9: don't expect that, but it just it's a surprise, but
Speaker 9: it's so seamless, like it just fits so perfectly.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 9: It's it's a nice surprise because sometimes somebody might try
Speaker 9: to do something like that and you go, I don't know,
Speaker 9: it seems a little forced or whatever, but that is
Speaker 9: it just fits in perfectly. So good, so good. Absolutely,
Speaker 9: And you've got an album, let's see this. I guess
Speaker 9: this has been out for a little while now, Stories
Speaker 9: from the Borderlines or this just came out last month, actually, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just been a few weeks.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, so this is very new. You've got a
Speaker 9: new single called Shame. I thought about playing that one,
Speaker 9: but we'll probably play that one a little later in
Speaker 9: the show because I wanted to play when I wanted
Speaker 9: to open with that. It's such a great positive song.
Speaker 9: But you've done You've done a lot of work. You're
Speaker 9: you've been around a while, you know, you've worked with
Speaker 9: people like Debbie Harry, Blondie, Rufus, Wainwright, Scissor Sisters. You're
Speaker 9: a composer. You know, you've done film and television. I
Speaker 9: really want to know. Tell us a little bit about
Speaker 9: your background, and then we'll kind of talk about what
Speaker 9: we're we'll come back to what you're doing now with
Speaker 9: your music, but I also would like to know more
Speaker 9: about you.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm from the Midwest, but I came to the
Speaker 3: East Coast and graduated from college and moved to New
Speaker 3: York City, and then I was in a band called
Speaker 3: her Vanished Grace for about twenty five years, and a
Speaker 3: couple other bands throughout the nineties and into the two thousands.
Speaker 3: But in the beginning of the two thousands, I kind
Speaker 3: of stumbled into a situation where I was working on
Speaker 3: a film score for this movie called The Safety of Objects,
Speaker 3: and then I started producing. I became part of a
Speaker 3: production team, and that's where I worked with Debbie Harry
Speaker 3: on her solo album called Necessary Evil, which came out
Speaker 3: in two thousand and seven, and that was a really
Speaker 3: exciting experience, and basically we just continued writing with her
Speaker 3: after the album came out and ended up having some
Speaker 3: of those songs be on the Next Blondie record in
Speaker 3: twenty eleven.
Speaker 9: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: And since since about twenty thirteen, I've been working on
Speaker 3: being a solo artist in addition to producing people. And
Speaker 3: that's where I met Yeah. This is my fourth album.
Speaker 9: Oh no kidding, Okay, what do you find most satisfying?
Speaker 9: I mean, is working on your own music as a
Speaker 9: soul artist?
Speaker 13: Is that?
Speaker 9: I don't know if more satisfying is probably probably not
Speaker 9: necessarily how you'd want to put it, but you understand
Speaker 9: what I'm asking you. I mean, do you get what
Speaker 9: do you get the most from in terms of what
Speaker 9: you're doing because you've worked in all these different areas well.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting challenge because I've been in bands a
Speaker 3: lot of times where I was I did get to
Speaker 3: sing my songs, but it was in like a group
Speaker 3: where there was more than one singer, so I was
Speaker 3: always like the other singer when there's a female vocalist,
Speaker 3: you know. And so I've been writing songs for a
Speaker 3: long time and co writing with people, and in the
Speaker 3: past ten years I've got involved, as I mentioned, with
Speaker 3: this performance series called the Bushwick Book Club, where each
Speaker 3: month the book is selected and songwriters react to the
Speaker 3: book and write a song and then there's a sh
Speaker 3: where all the songs are presented, and I sort of
Speaker 3: got involved in producing that, so I ended up writing
Speaker 3: a lot of songs that way. Yeah, And I don't know,
Speaker 3: I've just been expanding my circle and getting involved with
Speaker 3: things like that and another series called The Loser's Lounge,
Speaker 3: which is here in New York, where we sing at
Speaker 3: Joe's Pub with a fantastic backing band. It's it's covers,
Speaker 3: but it's like there's a theme each for each performance.
Speaker 3: But I found that these things have helped me kind
Speaker 3: of find my identity as an artist, as a performing artist,
Speaker 3: and I'm really excited about it now. I enjoy playing
Speaker 3: full sets of my own music and I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a vehicle for this thing that's coming
Speaker 3: through me, and so you know, I do love collaborating those. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I get to do that a lot in production.
Speaker 3: When I produce my own music, it does it gets
Speaker 3: to be It's interesting because I can really take my
Speaker 3: time in certain parts of the process and just try
Speaker 3: a lot of different ideas and slowly build up layers.
Speaker 3: I think on stories from the borderlines. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of that it's kind of like a musical diary.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, In terms of how you approach how you
Speaker 9: approach songwriting, I'm curious if do you consciously try to
Speaker 9: do something that's that's unique and out of the mainstream
Speaker 9: or does that sort of happen organically because these songs,
Speaker 9: you know, none of them are anything that you would
Speaker 9: necessarily hear, Like, I don't know what radio format they
Speaker 9: would fit into necessarily on commercial radio. You know, they're
Speaker 9: they're they're different, which is what makes them so interesting.
Speaker 9: They're very catchy, they're very catchy and listenable. They're accessible,
Speaker 9: but they're but they're also unique. It kind of reminds
Speaker 9: me of just a random example, like like if a
Speaker 9: band like Talking Heads were to exist today and someone
Speaker 9: asked me, Matt, what would you do with this band?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 9: And obviously talking Heads was hugely commercially successful in the eighties,
Speaker 9: But if someone said, you know, if they were out
Speaker 9: today and Matt, someone said, Matt, what did you do
Speaker 9: with this band? I don't. I don't know exactly. You know,
Speaker 9: I'd want to do like maybe some college radio stuff
Speaker 9: for them, but I don't know where I would put
Speaker 9: them in terms of a commercially viable radio genre, and
Speaker 9: I feel like your music is like that, where it's
Speaker 9: it's catchy, it's accessible, the songs are great, but I
Speaker 9: don't I don't know where they fit necessarily, and I'm
Speaker 9: wondering if that's intentional on your part.
Speaker 3: I think it's natural, but I do. I'm aware of
Speaker 3: that definitely. I mean, I think for me, I think
Speaker 3: the most I think of genre as like a geography.
Speaker 3: You know, there are certain kinds of music that that's
Speaker 3: right in the middle of it of a genre, and
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, that's definitely dance pop, or that's definitely
Speaker 3: e DM or that's definitely you know, metal. But I
Speaker 3: think out of the edges of the borders of these genres,
Speaker 3: it's there are artists who are doing stuff that kind
Speaker 3: of freely mixes things and comes up with their own hybrids.
Speaker 3: I mean. And that's that's where someone like Prince came from,
Speaker 3: or Bowie True or Talking Heads, where like the Talking
Speaker 3: Heads weren't commercially successful at first, right, it took a while, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but now they're remembered because they did succeed as a
Speaker 3: college rock band, and again that was college rock became
Speaker 3: alternative you know, in the eighties, alternative didn't necessarily mean
Speaker 3: what it meant in the nineties, it was kind of
Speaker 3: a catch all for stuff that wasn't in a specific,
Speaker 3: you know, central style. That they often mixed a lot
Speaker 3: of different things together, and so that's kind of my
Speaker 3: natural that's my resting place kind of.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've just.
Speaker 3: There's been times when I've been in bands where we
Speaker 3: sort of really focused our sound into something that was,
Speaker 3: you know, the her vanished grace. We called it power
Speaker 3: dream pop, So we were kind of zeroing in on
Speaker 3: a certain subset of alternative of post punk and dream pop,
Speaker 3: and those are still strong influences in my music. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think especially in this album, I just allowed each
Speaker 3: song to have its own character and its own landscape,
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like a series of different movies
Speaker 3: or stories. So my girlfriend said it, it's like they're
Speaker 3: all different stories, and that kind of led to the
Speaker 3: title of the album.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent. I do want to hear more
Speaker 9: about the Bushwick Book Club because I'm curious if when
Speaker 9: you when you bring a song into that that forum,
Speaker 9: I mean, is that is that intimidating it all? Because
Speaker 9: obviously other people are gonna are gonna have there there
Speaker 9: there are judgments or assessments of it.
Speaker 3: Well, it's fun because everybody has a different approach and
Speaker 3: the book. For me, I always write a song that
Speaker 3: can stand outside the Busher book Club performance. You don't
Speaker 3: have to have read the book to enjoy it, you know,
Speaker 3: and to relate to it. Usually I use some aspect
Speaker 3: of the story or a character or an idea from
Speaker 3: the book. Sometimes it's just one page in the book
Speaker 3: like sets me off and I'm like, oh, this will
Speaker 3: be good imagery for this thing that I've already been
Speaker 3: thinking about. And that's kind of what happened with Wyn
Speaker 3: and uh. That was part of an interesting uh, an
Speaker 3: interesting thing that happened where we got invited to the
Speaker 3: Kurt Vonnegut Museum and Library for a whole week for
Speaker 3: a residency.
Speaker 9: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: And they have a series where they have a banned
Speaker 3: book band book week.
Speaker 9: Oh nice.
Speaker 3: And usually usually it's writers that come and participate, but
Speaker 3: since we've done a lot of Vonnegut in Bushwick book Club,
Speaker 3: they invited a group of us. It was five of us,
Speaker 3: and we spent the week there and at the end
Speaker 3: of the week we presented songs that we had written
Speaker 3: that week, all inspired by band books, and we had
Speaker 3: a concert Oh wow, And it was to make a
Speaker 3: long story short, I was like, the last one to
Speaker 3: finish my song. Everyone's gonna got a song going, and
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm having really struggling. It was a
Speaker 3: great book I was working on I was working with
Speaker 3: called All Boys Aren't Blue. It was one of the
Speaker 3: most banned books in two thousand and twenty two, really,
Speaker 3: and yeah, it was a it's a coming of age story,
Speaker 3: it's a ya book about being young, black and queer,
Speaker 3: and it was really a beautifully written book, but at
Speaker 3: the time there was a strong book banning thing going
Speaker 3: on in schools. So anyway, I woke up in the
Speaker 3: middle of the night with the chorus words to that
Speaker 3: song I Just want You to Win, and I kind
Speaker 3: of like just wrote it down in the notes app
Speaker 3: on my phone. I got up in the morning and
Speaker 3: I was like, whoa is this really feels good? And
Speaker 3: then I'd also been thinking about some other stuff and
Speaker 3: the song just all like poured out that morning, and
Speaker 3: we all supported each other in terms of being each
Speaker 3: other's backup musicians for the concert. At the end of
Speaker 3: the week, and so we started working on my song
Speaker 3: and spirit Child was there doing his music and I
Speaker 3: was like, you know, I think this would sound great
Speaker 3: if you came up with something for this, And so
Speaker 3: at the show it was a kind of a combination
Speaker 3: of stuff he had written, you know, in response to
Speaker 3: my lyrics and freestyled kind of at the same time.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, And that got recorded, and then when I
Speaker 3: went to record the and it was so great, you know.
Speaker 3: So when I recorded the album like a year or
Speaker 3: two later, I asked Spiritual to contribute to it. And
Speaker 3: now recently we just at our album release show, he
Speaker 3: was able to join us live on stage and it
Speaker 3: was fantastic. It really kicked the room into overdrive. It
Speaker 3: was so good.
Speaker 9: I can imagine, yeah, I can imagine, Yeah, that song
Speaker 9: must go over well live anyway, I would think, because
Speaker 9: it's got such an energy to it. And you know,
Speaker 9: I really like the lyrics, and I think, you know,
Speaker 9: you talked about what the lyrics are about, and I
Speaker 9: think you even referenced this that you know, obviously they're
Speaker 9: about that book, but also there's relatable themes within those
Speaker 9: lyrics that anyone can relate to. And and anyone who's
Speaker 9: ever felt marginalized in some way or actually a lot
Speaker 9: of a lot of your music I think is probably
Speaker 9: relatable for anyone who's ever felt marginalized or ostracized or
Speaker 9: I mean, I I feel like that's kind of a theme.
Speaker 9: You know, you've kind of you've got everybody's back, you know,
Speaker 9: you're in terms of what they're going through.
Speaker 3: Well, I think, in my view and I envision that
Speaker 3: we've created identities for ourselves that make it feel like
Speaker 3: we're all separate from each other, but there's an underlying
Speaker 3: thing that we're all part of one energy wave. So
Speaker 3: if all these things that we've taught ourselves about other
Speaker 3: people and the way we relate to people that we
Speaker 3: feel our adversaries or our enemies, actually they become very
Speaker 3: close to us. You know, we really wrap ourselves up
Speaker 3: and identifying ourselves in opposition to things, and if that
Speaker 3: dissolves a little bit, that's really a solvent for a
Speaker 3: lot of the strife that's going on. And I just
Speaker 3: want to be a part of that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I notice that, you know, these ongoing sort of
Speaker 9: cultural battles around gender identity and and all of it,
Speaker 9: you know, which is seems like it's it's become so
Speaker 9: heightened in these times, and I feel like the music
Speaker 9: that you're making is really this is kind of the
Speaker 9: moment for it, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think we can be playful about it.
Speaker 3: And I understand that a lot of it is comes
Speaker 3: from fear and fear of people that we feel are
Speaker 3: opposed to us or are you know, symbolize something of
Speaker 3: an other. But so I'm sympathetic to that. I don't
Speaker 3: think people should be ostracized because of that, but I
Speaker 3: also feel like, I don't know, I think everybody has
Speaker 3: because there's there's been a the systems in place of
Speaker 3: systematic racism and stuff like that. We all have work
Speaker 3: to do, but it's it's something that we can all
Speaker 3: give each other some space to do instead of, you know,
Speaker 3: being cruel to each other.
Speaker 9: No, I like the way you say that. I like
Speaker 9: the way you say that because I think it's important
Speaker 9: to you know, not everything. I mean, obviously, no one
Speaker 9: should be ostracized and marginalized and all of that, but
Speaker 9: I think that there's a difference, you know, fear, use
Speaker 9: that term fear, and I think that's an important word
Speaker 9: to use because people tend to fear what they don't understand,
Speaker 9: or what they've never been exposed to, or what seems
Speaker 9: unusual to them. And you know, not all of that
Speaker 9: stems from not all of it stems from hate. You know,
Speaker 9: some people are just blinded with hate for the you know,
Speaker 9: the quote unquote the other. And some people are just
Speaker 9: you know, they're just afraid. And I think music is
Speaker 9: a great music is a great vehicle to reach them.
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I think. I mean, we're only fifty
Speaker 3: fifty hundred thousand years away from the Savannah, you know,
Speaker 3: we were. There's a lot of evolutionary imperatives that were
Speaker 3: still that created this amazing survival instinct that we have
Speaker 3: as Homo sapiens. And but those things can really create
Speaker 3: problems for us too, right, And so we're still we
Speaker 3: have all these instincts that cause us to be tribal
Speaker 3: and cause us to to over identify with groups. I mean,
Speaker 3: at the same time, we have a lot of wisdom
Speaker 3: that comes through with and I think a lot of
Speaker 3: it comes through culture and comes through art, and I
Speaker 3: think that helps dissolve some of this stuff and helps people,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of forget to be so hateful.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, do you see reactions with your music,
Speaker 9: Do you see reactions from advocates, see groups, and is
Speaker 9: there any any contact from anybody wanting you to get
Speaker 9: involved with their organizations or anything because of your music specifically?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I did. In fact, I when I did
Speaker 3: an interview with a journalist who has a series called
Speaker 3: on Tyranny, and it was about artists and their reactions
Speaker 3: to authoritarianism. So I said a bunch of this stuff
Speaker 3: that I just said, you know, But at the same time,
Speaker 3: I'm an artist, I'm not I'm getting more engaged politically,
Speaker 3: just on a local level here where I live in
Speaker 3: New Jersey. But yeah, that's just I think it's I
Speaker 3: think getting hand ringing and doom scrolling about the national
Speaker 3: political and world political situation can be a little overwhelming,
Speaker 3: and I think if you just get involved on your
Speaker 3: local level, that's way more helpful. So I've been doing
Speaker 3: that too.
Speaker 9: No, that's great, I think that's I think that's great advice.
Speaker 9: I do want to talk a bit about the song Shame,
Speaker 9: and we'll we'll play that at the end of our conversation. Actually,
Speaker 9: I'm probably going to play both that and Brutalist Monuments
Speaker 9: because at the end of our conversation because I love
Speaker 9: both those songs, so I'll probably just play those two
Speaker 9: back to back. But but I do want to talk
Speaker 9: about Shame because officially Shame is the current single. Is
Speaker 9: that correct?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the second single. Yes, it's the current
Speaker 3: single led the album.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, yeah, I want to ask you about this.
Speaker 9: This is another great track. There's an interesting line in
Speaker 9: it too, we eroticize what we despise, and I'm I'm
Speaker 9: curious about that. And uh, and if you can talk
Speaker 9: to about the song and you know, in a broader
Speaker 9: sense about what it's about, what the theme is, and
Speaker 9: and how it relates to everything that we've been discussing.
Speaker 3: Well, again, I think that this was a song that
Speaker 3: was written. It's part of a Busherik book club event
Speaker 3: based around a book called When brook When Brooklyn Was Queer,
Speaker 3: and it was a history of queer and gay experience
Speaker 3: in Brooklyn for the past few hundred years. And I
Speaker 3: was just really struck by There was a part in
Speaker 3: the book where they described how there was a really
Speaker 3: thriving waterfront scene in Brooklyn in like the eighteen eighties
Speaker 3: and eighteen nineties, where and in the river on the
Speaker 3: Hudson River part of Brooklyn, or the Gowanis River. Maybe
Speaker 3: I'm sorry getting getting lost there, but that there was
Speaker 3: a lot of drag performing and there was these were
Speaker 3: kind of like bars and clubs where people would meet.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, there were a lot of
Speaker 3: people just came for the culture and came for the
Speaker 3: for the entertainment. And then at that time, there wasn't
Speaker 3: even a word homosexual had really been coined yet, and
Speaker 3: starting around I think it came into use around the
Speaker 3: time Freud was writing, and after that it became a diagnosis.
Speaker 3: And after that they started putting gays in jail in
Speaker 3: the New York area. They even made a special penitentiary
Speaker 3: for them, did they really? I didn't know that really
Speaker 3: in Brooklyn. Yeah, And it to me that just struck
Speaker 3: me as like once the name got coined, then a
Speaker 3: lot of people were able to focus in on that
Speaker 3: and say, oh, this is the thing we're afraid of.
Speaker 3: And it just reminded me of now how there's so
Speaker 3: much like sort of a fetishization of trans culture. And
Speaker 3: like RuPaul's drag race was like water cooler TV. You know,
Speaker 3: everybody talked about and everyone watched it and found it
Speaker 3: really entertaining. But then when the transidentities got weaponized by politics,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, those same people who are so
Speaker 3: fascinated and kind of titillated by it were full of like, Okay,
Speaker 3: let's get these people out of public of public view.
Speaker 3: And I just think there's a real that my little phrase,
Speaker 3: we eroticize what we despise again, it's like we get
Speaker 3: wrapped up in identification with something that we are opposed to,
Speaker 3: and when actually there's a lot there's an extreme similarity
Speaker 3: between what we think of as our shadow, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So this song is sort of like creates a couple
Speaker 3: of different identities and the verses like one person is
Speaker 3: going to see the entertainment and the other person is
Speaker 3: the entertainer, and they come together in the chorus where
Speaker 3: one says you'll know what you are when I give
Speaker 3: you a name, and the other says you'll know what
Speaker 3: you are when you give me a name, and it
Speaker 3: kind of goes back and forth, and then at the
Speaker 3: end it's like, you know, we're basically the same, right.
Speaker 9: I love that. I love that. Oh, I want to
Speaker 9: ask you about the video too, because I love the
Speaker 9: video and I was reading that you worked with Hypno
Speaker 9: Doll as the director and editor and Alice Teepele as cinematographer,
Speaker 9: if I have that correct.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Hypna Doll is a friend of mine who has
Speaker 3: been doing my artwork for the past couple albums and
Speaker 3: has done several videos for me, and we just relate
Speaker 3: really well. And she came up with the concept for
Speaker 3: the video of a band that kind of exists in
Speaker 3: several different time zone timelines. Yeah, and so, and then
Speaker 3: we had a whole bunch of our friends kind of
Speaker 3: join us at the end, like the band sort of
Speaker 3: explodes into a bunch of different identities. But we did it.
Speaker 3: You know, we did it in my recording studio.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: It was definitely not trying to look high budget, but
Speaker 3: it the editing is so good, has a great energy.
Speaker 9: It does it really does. No, it's great. I love it.
Speaker 9: And uh yeah, that's it's so important too. I think
Speaker 9: it's it to some people. It might sound odd to
Speaker 9: say this in the year twenty twenty five, but I
Speaker 9: think music videos are more important than they've ever been,
Speaker 9: you know, especially now. I mean MTV is apparently going
Speaker 9: away permanently, but they haven't played music videos in forever,
Speaker 9: but uh, I've noticed, and I don't know if you've
Speaker 9: noticed this. People outside the music industry, a lot of
Speaker 9: people have this perception that music video as an art
Speaker 9: form is dead, you know, because MTV gave up on it,
Speaker 9: you know, a couple decades ago. But in reality, because
Speaker 9: of social media, I think making videos and making a
Speaker 9: great video, it's a great video, even if it's low budget,
Speaker 9: it's I think it's fantastic, like like the video for Shame.
Speaker 9: It's so it's so important as a as a tool
Speaker 9: to get your you know, people. Still it's always been
Speaker 9: the case, at least since I was a kid, and
Speaker 9: it's still the case today. People listen with their eyes
Speaker 9: just as much as they do with their ears exactly.
Speaker 3: There's been a lot of notice that came from exerpting
Speaker 3: the video and putting up in little bites and then
Speaker 3: sharing the whole video, but just also just that it
Speaker 3: had a performance aspect involved all these other people. I mean,
Speaker 3: but there are other videos that Himnadala has done for me,
Speaker 3: like for the song Drown, that were more just full
Speaker 3: of images and stuff, So I mean, I think they're different.
Speaker 3: There's room for different ways to approach it, But I agree.
Speaker 3: I want to make some more videos myself for some
Speaker 3: of the for some more of the songs.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. So what's kind of
Speaker 9: the future trajectory? Do you have another? Is there another
Speaker 9: single that's going to be coming after Shame or what's
Speaker 9: what's kind of the short term or even the long
Speaker 9: term plan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that there'll be one more single. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: decide which one it is. It might be Brutalless Monuments,
Speaker 3: or might be another completely different kind of song that's
Speaker 3: called Today that's on the album as well. But I
Speaker 3: don't know. I've put together a really great band and
Speaker 3: we've started performing, and we have another show this month,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, in December. It's almost December, and I just
Speaker 3: want to keep playing out and just bringing in new
Speaker 3: possibilities by putting myself out there and playing the music.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm sure at some point I'll have
Speaker 3: enough songs to do another release. I might not do
Speaker 3: full albums. I said that this time. Yeah, I did
Speaker 3: throughout full album, but I think you know, a lot
Speaker 3: of times people just put on EPs now and they
Speaker 3: don't have to take us long between releases. That's intriguing
Speaker 3: to me. Yeah, But you know, I have a besides
Speaker 3: the next show I have of as Charlie Eland for
Speaker 3: my band, I'm doing a Loser's Lounge performance at the
Speaker 3: beginning of December where they're doing Brian Wilson and the
Speaker 3: Beach Boys, and I'm singing a Beach Boys song I
Speaker 3: really love called All I Want to Do. And that's
Speaker 3: really exciting to sing. It's really nerve wracking just to
Speaker 3: sing one song in front of a crowded room, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: with a great, great band, But it's It's taught me
Speaker 3: a lot about how to breathe and be in the moment,
Speaker 3: and it's really helped my own performing for my music too.
Speaker 9: Oh excellent, excellent, Charlie. Where's the best place for people
Speaker 9: to go online to keep up with everything that you're doing?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 8: Is it?
Speaker 3: Charlie land website and I E L A and d
Speaker 3: yes And you know, I sell the music through band camp,
Speaker 3: which isn't not all people know about that. I mean,
Speaker 3: of course I'm on streaming all the streaming platforms, but
Speaker 3: band camp is a way you can stream and you
Speaker 3: can all so buy the music as a digital release.
Speaker 3: In any form that you like. Yeah, and I you
Speaker 3: know a lot of my artists friends work on that too,
Speaker 3: and we all kind of support each other on that.
Speaker 3: So check out band camp. I'm on band camp, I'm
Speaker 3: on Apple Music and Spotify and all those places.
Speaker 9: Absolutely, absolutely well Charlie neland thank you so much for
Speaker 9: joining us this morning. This has been fantastic. I'm actually
Speaker 9: gonna play I will have time, so I'm gonna play
Speaker 9: both Shame and then I'm gonna play Brutalist Monuments as well,
Speaker 9: but both both great tracks. But I really appreciate you
Speaker 9: joining us. This has been a fascinating discussion. I love
Speaker 9: your music, and hey, when the next single is ready
Speaker 9: to go, I definitely want to have you back on
Speaker 9: if you're amenable.
Speaker 3: To that, I'd love that. Thank you so much, Matt.
Speaker 3: This has been a total pleasure, wonderful.
Speaker 9: All right, thanks Charlie. We'll let you go and now
Speaker 9: have a great have a great weekend.
Speaker 3: You too, all right, take care, bye bye bye bye.
Speaker 9: All right, that was Charlie Niland And let's play these.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna play both of these. We're gonna play Shame.
Speaker 9: This is a great track. Yeah, pay attention to the lyrics,
Speaker 9: and I appreciate I appreciate the song even more now
Speaker 9: that I know after talking to Charlie, now that I
Speaker 9: know exactly what's going on, uh in these lyrics and
Speaker 9: the different characters. But yeah, this is this is interesting,
Speaker 9: so pay attention. But this is really good. This is
Speaker 9: shame by Charlie Neland yeah, m hm, you're.
Speaker 3: A perfect fit for my misinformed rage scanning down the page,
Speaker 3: dancing on the stage. We tend to be replaced by
Speaker 3: this catestriphizing space. I want to mask a rade.
Speaker 4: And disappearing worlds.
Speaker 3: You're looking like a man, but.
Speaker 2: Just sound just like a girl by meed of the
Speaker 2: things that I could never tame.
Speaker 10: You know what you are?
Speaker 3: When give you name down by the waterfront, you cannot
Speaker 3: go away.
Speaker 2: Today is just the day you found a part two
Speaker 2: play same space, dying to be heard by an adverse.
Speaker 10: Flirt black bilt in cell work of.
Speaker 14: Art, footing forward, taste of your collective blame, shame, don't
Speaker 14: know what you are?
Speaker 9: Wind give me a name, shame.
Speaker 2: See if bizarre to you will disguise.
Speaker 7: Your own pain.
Speaker 2: Call it little darling, I call a little child for
Speaker 2: your attention with starving.
Speaker 3: Cool so composed the cools full of rage? Who is
Speaker 3: in control? Who is in the cage? Push the button
Speaker 3: when it plays.
Speaker 2: Out on the stage.
Speaker 10: Shame, You don't know who you are when you find
Speaker 10: him what you're blame? Shame, you know what you.
Speaker 9: Are when you mean name.
Speaker 8: Shame where exactly exactly exactly the same?
Speaker 15: Shame when you kidder, when you're kidder, until you're kidder,
Speaker 15: When you kidder when.
Speaker 4: You're kidder the name when you.
Speaker 5: Kid show.
Speaker 4: Shows fiction and destruction.
Speaker 3: We can't seem to give more than we take.
Speaker 6: We are so constructed, designed to reveal our dead mistakes,
Speaker 6: the form expressing nothing except to stay alive at derny cars.
Speaker 6: Could it be we're bluffing, picking up for something that
Speaker 6: we've lost.
Speaker 2: Our groups lest.
Speaker 10: One hundred thousand years surviving?
Speaker 4: Just what didly?
Speaker 2: We cannot find the soul in side of.
Speaker 4: See how fun we travel?
Speaker 6: We were starstaand slimed in things with brains, all our
Speaker 6: plans on level.
Speaker 4: How are we social? We're not the same?
Speaker 2: How are we superior? We can't even see just what
Speaker 2: we are.
Speaker 1: Enjoy the plush interior, rows and rows of monkey head
Speaker 1: some jobs.
Speaker 2: We are roots less, severn hearts in my connection.
Speaker 4: Now here comes the twiz.
Speaker 2: He become the architecture, biking monuments to miss the direction.
Speaker 10: So bred.
Speaker 4: Victory by the this section.
Speaker 6: Fiction by destruction, we just cannot help but take that shape.
Speaker 6: We are so constructed, designed to reveal our big mistakes.
Speaker 4: We our roots less.
Speaker 11: Severn hearts, and by connection now becomes twist.
Speaker 4: He become the architecture.
Speaker 7: He became.
Speaker 1: Monuments to mister Boutell best.
Speaker 13: Mom, you man.
Speaker 9: Foodte thats.
Speaker 2: Ma, you man, booto.
Speaker 9: Mom, you man Buchell, thats.
Speaker 4: Mom, you man.
Speaker 9: It's just epic. That is brutalist monuments, that is Charlie Neland.
Speaker 9: And before that we heard Shame, the current single from
Speaker 9: Charlie Neland, and really loved talking with him. If you
Speaker 9: missed any of it, definitely go back and check it out.
Speaker 9: I want to thank everybody who joined us today on
Speaker 9: Matt Connorton Unleashed. Of course, in the first hour we
Speaker 9: had six minds combined, and then in the second hour
Speaker 9: we had let's see, Jamie Higgs joined us to talk
Speaker 9: about his newest single. We talk followed by Adam Adam
Speaker 9: Hughes from at H and I really enjoyed talking with
Speaker 9: him too, so fun show today. If you missed any
Speaker 9: part of it, it'll be up in just a little
Speaker 9: bit at WMMH Radio dot organ in my website Matt
Speaker 9: Connorton dot com. Jenny should be back with us next week.
Speaker 9: If you want to keep up with everything that she's doing,
Speaker 9: go to Jencoffee dot com. And if you want to
Speaker 9: keep up with everything I'm doing, go to Matt Connorton
Speaker 9: dot com. And uh, really appreciate everyone who joined us today.
Speaker 9: Like I said, a couple other quick things. Uh, my dad,
Speaker 9: if he's listening, Dad, I love you, uh quick shout
Speaker 9: out to him. He did say he was going to
Speaker 9: listen this morning. I don't want to say too much
Speaker 9: about it because I want to protect his privacy, but
Speaker 9: he's been under the weather quite severely, so I appreciate
Speaker 9: any prayer's positive energy, whatever you would like to send
Speaker 9: my dad's way. He could certainly use it now.
Speaker 16: You know.
Speaker 9: I think he's going to make it through it. But
Speaker 9: again I don't want to say too too much, but
Speaker 9: but he's you know, things, things have been tough for him,
Speaker 9: so to say the very least. So uh So, hello Dad,
Speaker 9: if you're listening this morning, and uh uh thinking of you,
Speaker 9: of course. And the other thing I want to mention too,
Speaker 9: just briefly, is uh, come see Monday nights at Shorty's
Speaker 9: Mexican Roadhouse in Manchester. It's right on the Manchester Hooks
Speaker 9: at border. But if you don't know, I run trivia
Speaker 9: there every Monday night from six to eight pm. It's
Speaker 9: a lot of fun and come see me and you
Speaker 9: can win a gift card for Shorties. The food is amazing,
Speaker 9: the staff there is incredible, and you get to hang
Speaker 9: out with me for a couple hours. So king trivia
Speaker 9: every Monday night at Shorty's Mexican Roadhouse from six to
Speaker 9: eight pm. I think that's gonna do it for now.
Speaker 9: So we'll do our world radio premieres. We have a
Speaker 9: few premieres to share that we shared at the top
Speaker 9: of the show today, but if you missed them, I'm
Speaker 9: going to play them again right now. Some amazing artists
Speaker 9: who again these are artists who they have not been
Speaker 9: heard prior to today on American radio. And we here
Speaker 9: on Matt Connorton Unleashed and at WMNH ninety five point
Speaker 9: three have the honor and privilege of being the first
Speaker 9: American radio stations to play these incredible new singles from
Speaker 9: these artists and very very excited about that. So appreciate
Speaker 9: all the support, Love you all, and that's gonna do
Speaker 9: it for this. Matt Connorton Unleashed here and again. If
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Speaker 9: it for us for now. We'll talk to you a
Speaker 9: little bit later. Here's some world premieres for you. Bye, everybody.
Speaker 13: You're listening to Matt Connorton Unleashed on WMNHW five point.
Speaker 9: Three and now the world radio premiere of the new
Speaker 9: single from Rivia Something in the Water.
Speaker 17: Oh you can see me now, fit out would make
Speaker 17: you proud. Trum so far from Mona yesterday, I feel
Speaker 17: me still not clear? How the hell do we get here?
Speaker 17: The rest of years it'sern in suahge.
Speaker 9: It's a concerning.
Speaker 7: Family and I mean none.
Speaker 4: There's nothing from me in a still.
Speaker 5: I don't want a time for got. I've got a
Speaker 5: good train way.
Speaker 4: Get up to the Free.
Speaker 15: It's just a dot of pro.
Speaker 7: Sting.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 9: Always chasing something.
Speaker 4: You got to something in the view.
Speaker 7: Am I going on my way?
Speaker 8: Not want to the awful look that you never thought
Speaker 8: that you I am lunch to you.
Speaker 5: And all your games me, I mean it all.
Speaker 7: There's nothing for me.
Speaker 9: I said, I don't want to tell you that I wanted.
Speaker 11: I gotta got the train anyway, got on to the Free.
Speaker 11: Just a dot croly the sots not.
Speaker 5: Fick out about that track you want to do.
Speaker 11: It's just a down.
Speaker 5: The south.
Speaker 7: I don't want.
Speaker 4: That's out.
Speaker 12: The south.
Speaker 3: Don't want that's.
Speaker 4: The Southern.
Speaker 9: Here's another exclusive, the new single by the forensics. This
Speaker 9: is called not giving up. There's nothing near.
Speaker 5: I found me your own school breed chance.
Speaker 4: It's not the thing that they could try to teach us.
Speaker 12: Well, the will it's changed.
Speaker 15: She chance to dig.
Speaker 4: Got me.
Speaker 8: It's something lost on her share where always meaning so
Speaker 8: we never lend day, he said, let him save He
Speaker 8: had decided honestly.
Speaker 7: Cause I know not you didn't know.
Speaker 4: It's take an chance, Nay, it's not dead and.
Speaker 3: Some problem that it comes the least stay up tonight.
Speaker 5: When Dolph says.
Speaker 8: There's not even though to bee the one you will
Speaker 8: figure out to mom never comes us to stands out tonight,
Speaker 8: I know why God if he no say nine says
Speaker 8: it's my and some mom never comes. There's the stands
Speaker 8: out tonight?
Speaker 11: Why Dolf fast there's not even though.
Speaker 8: It's a lot of times stout that TODs to stay,
Speaker 8: listens to stay.
Speaker 9: Here's another exclusive premiere for you this week, the new
Speaker 9: single from Paul Nasal neighbor Cadnezzar.
Speaker 18: Found Forever. Like member Connessa, I know that whereever you go,
Speaker 18: that's is the distance, and you find.
Speaker 12: The difference so much less than you know.
Speaker 18: I said the under the Cognac thunder serenity.
Speaker 9: Or instead.
Speaker 4: My life found the break the ships. I still see
Speaker 4: no thoughts.
Speaker 2: Left to say.
Speaker 18: It's not a dream of a distance between us, and
Speaker 18: still I cannot.
Speaker 5: Let you come.
Speaker 18: Stops making notions and sicklical oceans.
Speaker 12: See how the watters.
Speaker 8: Can leave in my love on the shop, Fly home
Speaker 8: to answer a cold.
Speaker 4: Days of confusion, the love the illusion with est into.
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Speaker 16: When Matso wakes up in the morning, he gets into
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