Matt Connarton Unleashed 12-13-25 hour 3

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0:18 Speaker 1: things you should walk, the things you should say.

0:29 Speaker 2: You shocked us both.

0:32 Speaker 3: You open the door, we both walk through, and now

0:37 Speaker 3: you're running through my body like the current, like the

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0:51 Speaker 5: Transcence time transcends time.

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2:08 Speaker 8: a game? Tu say it inside. You shocked us both

2:20 Speaker 8: over the door.

2:22 Speaker 3: We both walk and you're running through my body like

2:27 Speaker 3: a current rising time.

2:31 Speaker 2: Bob, do something.

2:35 Speaker 5: About transcence time, transcend time, leave silver.

2:44 Speaker 2: Decades between your.

2:49 Speaker 4: Smile. There's something can stop stock.

3:32 Speaker 9: It's a great track. I love that. That is Fool's

3:34 Speaker 9: Fight by Jesse Kilgis, and we're gonna be talking to

3:36 Speaker 9: Jesse in just a moment. Welcome everybody. We have entered

3:38 Speaker 9: our number three of Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are

3:42 Speaker 9: live from the studios of w m n H ninety

3:45 Speaker 9: five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Today

3:48 Speaker 9: is Saturday, December thirteenth, twenty twenty five. Genius here at

3:53 Speaker 9: the news table and let's see joining us, joining us

3:58 Speaker 9: via WhatsApp. Jesse Kilga is here. Jesse. Can you hear us?

4:02 Speaker 10: Yes, I Ken, can you hear me?

4:04 Speaker 9: Absolutely? Yes, you sound great. Welcome to the show.

4:07 Speaker 10: Thank you, Thank you so much.

4:08 Speaker 9: Yeah, I love that song. It's one of those things

4:10 Speaker 9: he just kind of sway to you know when you

4:12 Speaker 9: hear it, that's really really good. Well, thank you also,

4:16 Speaker 9: so we we love your sound. Also excited to talk

4:19 Speaker 9: to you because we were playing actually I played at

4:22 Speaker 9: the end of the Last Hour Win by Charlie neland

4:26 Speaker 9: because I was very as I was reading about you,

4:28 Speaker 9: I was quite pleased to see that that you've worked

4:31 Speaker 9: with Charlie because he was actually on the show with

4:34 Speaker 9: us recently and we had a fascinating conversation. He's an

4:36 Speaker 9: amazing guy. Oh great, But he's he's your producer. Is

4:40 Speaker 9: that correct?

4:41 Speaker 10: Well, he produced this record.

4:43 Speaker 2: Yeah.

4:43 Speaker 11: I've worked with multiple different people on all the different

4:47 Speaker 11: records I've made, but Charlie and I have been working

4:49 Speaker 11: on and off for almost twenty years.

4:51 Speaker 9: Oh no, kidding. Wow, yeah, Oh that's amazing.

4:54 Speaker 10: Yeah, he produced this one.

4:57 Speaker 9: What is it about? What is it about working with

4:59 Speaker 9: Charlie out? Because the record is great? They have a

5:02 Speaker 9: Howard Johnson's there. I love it. What is it about?

5:05 Speaker 9: What is it about working with Charlie that that brings

5:07 Speaker 9: out out this great music in you?

5:10 Speaker 11: Well, Charlie's just multi talented, plays a bunch of different

5:15 Speaker 11: instruments and is a great engineer and producer.

5:18 Speaker 8: Yeah.

5:19 Speaker 11: But yeah, but IM a wonderful person too, So he's

5:22 Speaker 11: just very easy to work with.

5:24 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense. And

5:28 Speaker 9: tell us about the title, by the way of the album.

5:30 Speaker 9: I love the title. There's a Howard that they have

5:32 Speaker 9: a Howard Johnson's there.

5:34 Speaker 11: So that's a line from my song Howard Johnson's and

5:37 Speaker 11: I wrote that song. I took a poetry writing workshop

5:41 Speaker 11: with the performance artist Karen Finley and the theme of

5:44 Speaker 11: the workshop was Dog Day Afternoon and Oh we had

5:49 Speaker 11: to watch the movie and then we had his poetry

5:51 Speaker 11: workshop inspired by that and this. I took this workshop

5:53 Speaker 11: about a month after my father died and his name

5:56 Speaker 11: was Howard. And there's a line in the movie where

5:59 Speaker 11: al Pacine says something like I'm going to Algeria.

6:03 Speaker 10: They have a Howard Johnson's or something.

6:05 Speaker 11: I just really stood out to me because my dad's

6:07 Speaker 11: name was Howard and it was just so ridiculous to

6:09 Speaker 11: the line. Yeah, yeah, I wrote a song kind of

6:12 Speaker 11: based around that.

6:13 Speaker 9: Oh that's cool. That's funny too. That's such a great film.

6:16 Speaker 9: But I haven't watched it in so long, and I

6:18 Speaker 9: didn't I didn't even remember that line until you said it.

6:21 Speaker 2: It holds up.

6:22 Speaker 10: It's such a good movie.

6:23 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it does, it does absolutely absolutely. And what

6:27 Speaker 9: can you tell us about Fool's Fight? That's a that's

6:29 Speaker 9: a great track. I really like that as I thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.

6:34 Speaker 12: You know.

6:34 Speaker 11: That was kind of inspired a little bit by some

6:36 Speaker 11: books I was reading by Ellena Ferrante, but it's also

6:39 Speaker 11: inspired by my own life and experiences. But I have

6:44 Speaker 11: a songwriting club with my friend Rembert Block, who sings

6:47 Speaker 11: back up on that song. Okay's She's a great singer, songwriter,

6:50 Speaker 11: multi instrumentalist. She and I have a club of two

6:53 Speaker 11: people we meet every month and have to share a

6:55 Speaker 11: new song.

6:56 Speaker 9: Okay.

6:56 Speaker 11: So that song came out of that process, which is

7:01 Speaker 11: really useful to have you know, a deadline every month.

7:05 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm curious about that because that's such an interesting

7:07 Speaker 9: concept to me, because is it like, because obviously everybody

7:11 Speaker 9: writes differently. Some people like to some people need to

7:15 Speaker 9: feel a little bit of pressure, you know, to really

7:17 Speaker 9: get the known writing. Some some people can't stop writing,

7:20 Speaker 9: and they actually write more music than they could ever

7:23 Speaker 9: or books or whatever it is, than they could ever

7:25 Speaker 9: actually use. Like, do you find that useful to have

7:28 Speaker 9: that little bit of pressure, like to have that deadline?

7:31 Speaker 4: I do.

7:32 Speaker 10: E've been REMEMBERT and I have had this club for

7:34 Speaker 10: over two years now. It's really useful.

7:36 Speaker 11: Just sometimes I feel more productive with writing and like

7:40 Speaker 11: I have more ideas. But sometimes it's just useful to

7:43 Speaker 11: flex the muscle, even if I don't like the song.

7:46 Speaker 10: Yeah, it comes out of it.

7:47 Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, yeah, it kind of forces well obviously, and

7:50 Speaker 9: you know it's a successful partnership. Clearly. Are any of

7:55 Speaker 9: the other songs on the album? Did they also come

7:57 Speaker 9: out of that?

7:59 Speaker 13: Yes?

8:00 Speaker 11: Saint Teresa in Ecstasy from that process?

8:05 Speaker 10: Hm, what else is on there?

8:08 Speaker 2: Yeah?

8:08 Speaker 10: I think all of them except for Howard Johnson's.

8:10 Speaker 9: Oh No kidding okay, yeah, excellent, excellent And what about

8:15 Speaker 9: your approach. You know, I was, I was reading something about,

8:18 Speaker 9: you know, nostalgia clever layered nostalgia online. I mean, is

8:24 Speaker 9: that is that something that that you might have uh

8:26 Speaker 9: said or I forget exactly where I saw that. As

8:30 Speaker 9: I was researching you, I thought you had said something

8:32 Speaker 9: about that somewhere.

8:33 Speaker 10: That doesn't ring a bell.

8:35 Speaker 9: Yeah, but.

8:37 Speaker 10: I think that you know, some of my songs are

8:40 Speaker 10: can be pretty nostalgic.

8:41 Speaker 9: Yeah, but yeah, Well it's funny though, because there's almost

8:45 Speaker 9: a timelessness to it in a way, like you listen

8:48 Speaker 9: to a song like Fool's Fight and and that could

8:51 Speaker 9: that could have been any time? Really, you know, that's

8:54 Speaker 9: obviously it's it's a current song, but it could have

8:56 Speaker 9: been you know, it could have been ten, twenty thirty

8:58 Speaker 9: years ago and it would fit in any era if

9:02 Speaker 9: if that makes sense, and which I think, which I

9:04 Speaker 9: think is cool when you have something that it could

9:06 Speaker 9: it could have come out anytime and it would have

9:08 Speaker 9: sounded relevant to that period.

9:11 Speaker 10: Oh cool, that's a that's a really nice compliment, thank you.

9:15 Speaker 9: Yeah, no, no, like I said, I mean, and the

9:16 Speaker 9: whole thing is it sounds like that to me. It

9:18 Speaker 9: kind of reminds me a little bit of you know,

9:20 Speaker 9: it's funny. I remember when I was a kid and

9:22 Speaker 9: the MTV at a show called one hundred and twenty

9:24 Speaker 9: Minutes on Sunday nights, and it was two hours of

9:27 Speaker 9: It was two hours of music that you wouldn't necessarily

9:29 Speaker 9: hear on mainstream radio at that time. And uh and

9:33 Speaker 9: a lot of the music, you know, the alternative music

9:36 Speaker 9: from that period. I remember it. It had that sort

9:38 Speaker 9: of sort of that timeless thing about it where it

9:41 Speaker 9: was like, Okay, this is this is something happening now

9:44 Speaker 9: that's not in the mainstream, but this could have this

9:47 Speaker 9: could have happened ten years ago and it would have

9:49 Speaker 9: sounded you know, or maybe it would happen in the

9:50 Speaker 9: future and it would sound good. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

9:55 Speaker 9: I'm also really curious to ask about your acting career.

9:58 Speaker 9: Uh yeah, sure, that's that's it interesting to me and

10:00 Speaker 9: and and I'm very interested too in how that informs

10:04 Speaker 9: your approach to music or or whether you kind of

10:06 Speaker 9: compartmentalize all that as some people do, or or or

10:10 Speaker 9: you know, or do the two kind of influence each other.

10:14 Speaker 11: Well, I don't act anymore. It used to be my

10:16 Speaker 11: prime primary art forum. I haven't acted in about twenty years.

10:20 Speaker 9: I all walked out on it, Okay, but I did.

10:22 Speaker 11: I did, you know, go to college and graduate school

10:26 Speaker 11: for it.

10:26 Speaker 10: And I did work professionally on.

10:29 Speaker 11: The stage in England, and I did one movie The

10:31 Speaker 11: Crucible with Daniel da Lewis, and one on a writer Wow,

10:34 Speaker 11: and yeah, and but I had this amazing experience working

10:40 Speaker 11: on it. I was part of a Tom Waits musical

10:43 Speaker 11: that the star was Mary Unfaithful and the other star

10:46 Speaker 11: was Mary Margaret O'Hara, who's another amazing songwriter, singer, songwriter,

10:49 Speaker 11: okay Canadian. If you don't know her, she's worth looking up.

10:54 Speaker 11: And the band of that show was incredible. The music

10:57 Speaker 11: was by Tom Waits and the the band with all

11:00 Speaker 11: these musicians who had worked with all of my favorite musicians,

11:04 Speaker 11: and Mary and Faithful was one of my favorite.

11:07 Speaker 10: Singers at the time.

11:08 Speaker 11: And it was an incredible experience and it made me

11:12 Speaker 11: think that I wanted to maybe not act anymore real

11:16 Speaker 11: kind of yeah, And that's when I started to think

11:19 Speaker 11: about focusing on music more because I have always.

11:22 Speaker 10: Been a singer.

11:24 Speaker 11: But yeah, and in terms of how my acting life

11:29 Speaker 11: background perform informs my writing, I think creativity is just

11:34 Speaker 11: seamless and you can direct it towards any art form.

11:39 Speaker 11: So it's the same energy I use for same energy

11:44 Speaker 11: I would have used for acting.

11:45 Speaker 10: Just I funnel into music and I perform live all

11:49 Speaker 10: the time.

11:50 Speaker 11: I still really love performing as a singer, so that

11:56 Speaker 11: kind of informs my per formance style.

12:01 Speaker 9: When back in acting, when you were really heavy with

12:04 Speaker 9: the acting career, when when that was your primary focus,

12:08 Speaker 9: was it always kind of in the back of your

12:10 Speaker 9: mind that that maybe you might sort of switch to

12:13 Speaker 9: a different modality with your creativity or or you know.

12:17 Speaker 11: Or yeah, I've always been interested in creative writing, and

12:21 Speaker 11: I've always been a singer, so it's and I never

12:24 Speaker 11: really liked musical theater. Yeah, I mean Tom Waite's musical

12:28 Speaker 11: is different than regular musical theater. But so it was

12:34 Speaker 11: always in the back of my mind what to do

12:36 Speaker 11: about music, how to incorporate it into my life.

12:39 Speaker 9: Yeah, oh okay, okay, very good, very good. So then

12:42 Speaker 9: it was so then it was working on that musical

12:44 Speaker 9: that made you think, okay, that's the that that kind

12:47 Speaker 9: of gave you a push more into that direction.

12:49 Speaker 14: Yeah.

12:50 Speaker 11: Yeah, and I and after that musical, I actually had

12:53 Speaker 11: to move back to the States from England. Okay, and

12:57 Speaker 11: because I would get a visa for every acting job

13:00 Speaker 11: I got there, but I couldn't get an overriding visa

13:02 Speaker 11: to just like get a job while I wasn't acting,

13:05 Speaker 11: and so so that was tricky, and I decided to

13:08 Speaker 11: move back to the States.

13:09 Speaker 10: And the acting world in the States is very different

13:11 Speaker 10: from in Europe, and.

13:14 Speaker 11: So I just kind of fell out of love with

13:16 Speaker 11: that and started experimenting with music.

13:20 Speaker 9: Okay, okay, Yeah, when when you say the acting world

13:23 Speaker 9: is very different in the United States, what do you mean?

13:25 Speaker 9: I mean, you don't have to you don't have to

13:27 Speaker 9: get too far into the weeds. But I'm just I'm

13:29 Speaker 9: just curious.

13:30 Speaker 11: I feel like it's more of a respected art form

13:33 Speaker 11: in the UK, especially, there's a real tradition of you know,

13:38 Speaker 11: going to drama school and studying the craft, which I loved,

13:43 Speaker 11: and here it's very commercial.

13:47 Speaker 9: Yeah, no, that makes sense, that makes sense.

13:50 Speaker 2: Yeah.

13:50 Speaker 9: What was it like working with Tom Waits. He seems

13:52 Speaker 9: like he's probably an intense guy, but I don't know.

13:55 Speaker 11: Well, he actually wasn't part of our production. He eyed

14:00 Speaker 11: from Afar because this was in London and it was

14:03 Speaker 11: a remount of The Black Writer, which I think was

14:05 Speaker 11: first done in the nineties. Oh. The director was Robert Wilson,

14:09 Speaker 11: who just passed away, and it was written by Tom

14:12 Speaker 11: Waits and William Burrows. Gotcha, Yeah, but Tom Waits wasn't

14:17 Speaker 11: part of the rehearsal process.

14:18 Speaker 9: Oh okay, interesting interesting.

14:20 Speaker 15: Yeah.

14:22 Speaker 9: So then so then when you came back to the

14:23 Speaker 9: United States, I mean, was that was it right away

14:27 Speaker 9: that you that you got out of acting or did

14:29 Speaker 9: you kind of work your way out slowly or it.

14:32 Speaker 10: Was gradual I would say within a year or so.

14:35 Speaker 11: Yeah, Wow, Yeah, I just I stopped liking it. Yeah,

14:40 Speaker 11: And I feel like it's such a tricky profession that

14:43 Speaker 11: if I figured, if I wasn't enjoying it, then it

14:45 Speaker 11: wasn't worth putting my energy into anymore.

14:48 Speaker 9: Right, absolutely, I mean everything always looks so glamorous from

14:51 Speaker 9: the outside, right, but when you're actually doing it, you know,

14:54 Speaker 9: people don't see what really goes into it. Yeah, and

14:58 Speaker 9: it's it's yeah, I can imagine, it's you know, it's

15:01 Speaker 9: enormously challenging when you so when you made that switch,

15:07 Speaker 9: you know, and then you're doing music, did you ever

15:10 Speaker 9: or maybe even today, like, do you ever think back

15:13 Speaker 9: and do you ever feel like getting back into acting

15:16 Speaker 9: or is that definitely completely behind you.

15:19 Speaker 10: It's definitely completely behind me. Yeah.

15:22 Speaker 11: I just burnt out on it, and the whole idea

15:25 Speaker 11: of that makes me feel uncomfortable.

15:27 Speaker 9: Yeah.

15:27 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, so no, I mean, if somebody offered me

15:31 Speaker 11: a million dollars to be in a movie, I would

15:33 Speaker 11: do it.

15:33 Speaker 9: Well, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody offered you a role

15:36 Speaker 9: in a superhero franchise or something, you know, you'd have

15:39 Speaker 9: to say yes to that.

15:40 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, but but yeah, I've I put that to

15:46 Speaker 11: rest a while ago, and I haven't looked back.

15:48 Speaker 10: Yeah.

15:49 Speaker 9: Yeah, Well you're on a great path now. Like I said,

15:51 Speaker 9: I love I love what you're doing. Have do you

15:55 Speaker 9: do you write any song? Like have you written any

15:57 Speaker 9: specific songs about your experience in in acting?

16:02 Speaker 5: I have not?

16:03 Speaker 11: Okay, okay, yeah no I haven't, but you know what

16:09 Speaker 11: I am doing now. Also in addition to music, is

16:11 Speaker 11: I just trained to be a breathwork practitioner. I saw

16:14 Speaker 11: that you're a hypnotherapist.

16:15 Speaker 9: I am, yes, yes, yeah, oh good for you.

16:18 Speaker 11: So that's kind of yeah, And I would say that

16:21 Speaker 11: that's maybe influencing the way I write or the way

16:24 Speaker 11: I saying even.

16:25 Speaker 9: Well, that makes sense, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, breathing

16:28 Speaker 9: is such an important part of of how you're saying.

16:30 Speaker 9: I've been looking into breath work myself actually because I

16:33 Speaker 9: use it cool. Well, I use a little bit of

16:35 Speaker 9: it in my sessions, you know, when I tell the

16:38 Speaker 9: client to you know, focus on your breathing and focus

16:40 Speaker 9: on the rhythm of your breathing and all of that.

16:42 Speaker 9: But but I've been thinking about really learning, you know,

16:45 Speaker 9: really getting into it and learning more about breath work

16:47 Speaker 9: because I think it would be helpful and everything else

16:50 Speaker 9: I do, or or even you know, even doing the

16:52 Speaker 9: radio show, just not running out of air when I'm

16:55 Speaker 9: you know, talking and you know sometimes if you're talking

16:58 Speaker 9: a lot, you know. Yeah, but uh no, that's that's

17:01 Speaker 9: really cool that you're doing that, And yeah, I would

17:03 Speaker 9: imagine that would be very helpful with your singing.

17:05 Speaker 11: Actually, yeah, it's actually it's not any sort of like

17:08 Speaker 11: gentle meditation that I'm doing. It's yeah, it's this three

17:12 Speaker 11: part proniama all through the mouth, and you oxygenate your

17:15 Speaker 11: brain so much that that your brain shuts off and

17:18 Speaker 11: just all your feelings come out. So people people don't

17:21 Speaker 11: find it gentle. It's often kind of like, uh, people

17:24 Speaker 11: often cry oh wow, but it's it's really intense but

17:29 Speaker 11: powerful and useful.

17:30 Speaker 9: Yeah about that. That's very very interesting. That's very interesting. Well,

17:35 Speaker 9: that's wild. That's wild.

17:36 Speaker 11: Yeah.

17:38 Speaker 9: And as far as your your music, are you do

17:40 Speaker 9: you play out? Do you play these songs out? Excellent

17:43 Speaker 9: all the time.

17:44 Speaker 10: I just had a record release.

17:45 Speaker 11: Actually, Charlie and I shared a bill for both of

17:47 Speaker 11: our record releases at this club in New York that's

17:51 Speaker 11: called Berlin, okay. And I sing regularly with this band

17:55 Speaker 11: called the Loser's Lounge at Joe's Pub, and I sing

17:59 Speaker 11: with a couple other bands too, But yeah, I perform

18:03 Speaker 11: almost once a week these days.

18:05 Speaker 9: Oh wonderful, good good.

18:07 Speaker 11: Yeah you're in New York, right, Yeah, I am in

18:10 Speaker 11: New York.

18:10 Speaker 9: Yeah, excellent, excellent.

18:13 Speaker 5: Oh.

18:13 Speaker 9: The other thing I wanted to ask you to getting

18:15 Speaker 9: back to they a Howard Johnson's there. The artwork. I

18:18 Speaker 9: really like the cover.

18:19 Speaker 11: Oh thanks, Yeah, that was my friend Scott MX Turner

18:23 Speaker 11: did that. I love it too.

18:24 Speaker 9: It's very retro it is it is maybe maybe that's

18:30 Speaker 9: where I got the idea about the nostalgia, but yeah,

18:33 Speaker 9: it is very retro. Yeah, it's very cool. Yeah, that

18:38 Speaker 9: is excellent. That is excellent. And then what about what

18:42 Speaker 9: do you have in the future, what's kind of your trajectory.

18:45 Speaker 9: I mean, obviously, you know this album hasn't been out

18:48 Speaker 9: that long.

18:49 Speaker 11: Right right, Well, you know, I did an artist residency

18:53 Speaker 11: this summer in Iceland. I was in East Iceland for

18:55 Speaker 11: a month, oh wow, and I was writing all new

18:57 Speaker 11: songs there, and they gave me this beautiful space, this

19:00 Speaker 11: recording studio and all the instruments. But I brought these

19:04 Speaker 11: tiny synths that I was playing. So I've written a

19:06 Speaker 11: whole bunch of new songs on these tiny synths. Found

19:09 Speaker 11: nothing like like the current record that I'm really excited

19:12 Speaker 11: about this new stuff. So I'm gonna be recording that

19:16 Speaker 11: with my friend John Kengla, who plays guitar in my band.

19:20 Speaker 11: We're going to be recording that sometime this year and

19:23 Speaker 11: hoping to put that out. I don't know when, but

19:26 Speaker 11: that's what I'm into right now. Okay, synth music, Yeah.

19:29 Speaker 9: Okay, very good, very good.

19:32 Speaker 11: Yeah.

19:32 Speaker 9: Well, Jesse, it's it's been wonderful speaking with you. We're

19:35 Speaker 9: going to you know, in a moment, we're going to

19:37 Speaker 9: play this other track after We Let You Go, we're

19:39 Speaker 9: going to play Saint Teresa in Ecstasy.

19:42 Speaker 10: Oh cool?

19:42 Speaker 9: What should we know about that song? It's with such

19:44 Speaker 9: an interesting title, oh thank you.

19:47 Speaker 11: Well, that was inspired by I was in Rome and

19:50 Speaker 11: two different friends said, Oh, you have to go see

19:53 Speaker 11: this sculpture in this little church and it's just magnificent.

19:59 Speaker 10: This culture. It's called the Ecstasy of Saint Teresa.

20:02 Speaker 11: Okay, And it has like this panel of gold above

20:05 Speaker 11: the sculpture and there's a window above it and when

20:08 Speaker 11: the sunlight hits the gold that lights up the statue.

20:11 Speaker 11: It's just really incredible. And the song is about that,

20:16 Speaker 11: just being really moved by seeing that.

20:18 Speaker 9: Okay, Okay, yeah, outstanding?

20:21 Speaker 11: Thank you?

20:22 Speaker 9: And where's before We Let you Go? Where's the best

20:24 Speaker 9: place for people to go online to keep up with

20:26 Speaker 9: everything that you're doing, all your music and everything.

20:29 Speaker 11: I post the most stuff on Instagram, Okay, so it's

20:32 Speaker 11: just Jesse Jesse Kilgus on Instagram. And then the best

20:35 Speaker 11: place to check out my music is band camp, especially

20:38 Speaker 11: if people want to buy it, because band camp gives

20:41 Speaker 11: the artists the most money. Yeah, But in terms of

20:45 Speaker 11: staying up to do up to date on news, I

20:47 Speaker 11: would say Instagram.

20:48 Speaker 9: And I like to tell people too, I love band camp,

20:50 Speaker 9: and I like to tell people not only does band

20:52 Speaker 9: camp give the artists the most money, but you get

20:55 Speaker 9: you get a high quality file, You get a better

20:57 Speaker 9: sounding file than you do if you just you know,

20:59 Speaker 9: stream on YouTube or whatever. So I really encourage people

21:02 Speaker 9: to use band camp as well.

21:04 Speaker 10: Nice.

21:05 Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely all right, Jesse killed Gus, thank you so much. Well,

21:10 Speaker 9: definitely when you've got some new stuff, when you got

21:12 Speaker 9: some new music, we'll definitely have you back. Absolutely love

21:16 Speaker 9: what you're doing, what we enjoyed speaking with you this morning.

21:20 Speaker 9: Absolutely we're gonna hit this track Saint Teresa in ecstasy

21:23 Speaker 9: will let you go. Oh and and again, congratulations on

21:26 Speaker 9: the breath work. And I got to learn more about that.

21:28 Speaker 9: I'm very curious about that. So we might have to.

21:33 Speaker 5: Oh very good.

21:34 Speaker 9: I'll check out the site and we we might we

21:36 Speaker 9: might have to have you back to to talk about

21:38 Speaker 9: that too, so we might we might have you back.

21:39 Speaker 9: Really outstanding. All right, all right, Jesse, thank you so much,

21:45 Speaker 9: Bye bye, all right, very cool. That was Jesse killed

21:48 Speaker 9: Gus from New York City. Check out her album. They

21:50 Speaker 9: have a Howard Johnson's there. It is available on band

21:53 Speaker 9: camp and we're gonna play this track, uh, this is

21:55 Speaker 9: a Saint Teresa in Ecstasy, and then when we come back,

21:59 Speaker 9: we're gonna have Evan's from Audio Gust with us on

22:03 Speaker 9: Microsoft Teams. Hopefully we don't have any tech issues with teams.

22:07 Speaker 9: That was unusual what happened there with with WhatsApp. We

22:09 Speaker 9: don't usually have any trouble. But I'll clean it up

22:11 Speaker 9: on the on the podcast version. But here it is.

22:14 Speaker 9: This is Saint Teresa in Ecstasy by Jesse Kilgas.

22:33 Speaker 7: In roam, I found expansion. My heart exploded in till

22:41 Speaker 7: night like one of those room and candles.

22:50 Speaker 3: Let flicker and brighten up the night, or like.

22:57 Speaker 11: Saint Theresa, and next to see the.

23:01 Speaker 1: Day she had her epiphany the agel, shein an row

23:08 Speaker 1: into her.

23:09 Speaker 3: Heart, and the sky lit up with the great event

23:16 Speaker 3: and danced over the monuments, and the world passed for

23:22 Speaker 3: a day and selebration, and she fell overwhelmeding joy and.

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30:15 Speaker 9: How catchy?

30:16 Speaker 1: Is that?

30:17 Speaker 11: Wow?

30:17 Speaker 9: That is I didn't hear what you said. The project

30:20 Speaker 9: is Audio Guest and let's see. We have Chris Evans

30:22 Speaker 9: from Audio Guests here with us via Microsoft Team.

30:25 Speaker 20: Hello Chris, Hello, what are you doing?

30:28 Speaker 2: Good?

30:28 Speaker 9: Good, Welcome to the show. I love that song. I

30:30 Speaker 9: love the whole album of course, that is from Falling

30:33 Speaker 9: from Down, and it's just so like, you know, it's

30:36 Speaker 9: the kind of song you tell people, at least I

30:38 Speaker 9: tell people, you know, if that didn't make you move,

30:41 Speaker 9: you know, check your pulse, you might be dead. It's

30:43 Speaker 9: just really really catchy. And I love the vocals, the

30:45 Speaker 9: layered vocals, everything about that is just it's just really good.

30:48 Speaker 9: I love that.

30:50 Speaker 20: Thank you. I appreciate that a song.

30:53 Speaker 9: Absolutely absolutely. And you are in Seattle, is that correct?

30:58 Speaker 20: Yeap?

30:58 Speaker 9: Just outside, just outside it's yeah, ah wow, quite a

31:00 Speaker 9: music scene there. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. What can you tell

31:06 Speaker 9: us about the album Falling from Down? I did listen

31:08 Speaker 9: to the whole thing. I really really like it. Like

31:10 Speaker 9: I said, I love what you're doing. Sonically, and there's

31:13 Speaker 9: nothing that I've heard recently that sounds quite like it,

31:17 Speaker 9: But what can you tell us about it?

31:20 Speaker 13: This is my third album, that one this year, and yeah,

31:25 Speaker 13: it's sort of a it's it's it's sort of a

31:28 Speaker 13: song about the times these days.

31:29 Speaker 20: Basically, like with all sort of angst and and and

31:34 Speaker 20: sort of.

31:36 Speaker 13: Sort of angst about communication, about what's going on in

31:39 Speaker 13: the world and things like that, and then how people

31:41 Speaker 13: are pretty stressed about this. And it starts off, you know,

31:44 Speaker 13: with just sort of a set of a darker set

31:46 Speaker 13: of songs and than all my previous albums, I think,

31:49 Speaker 13: songs like Isotope and Falling from Down. And then it

31:52 Speaker 13: hits a song called Easier, which is sort of it's

31:55 Speaker 13: sort of a reflection of the whole album, which sort

31:57 Speaker 13: of asked the question, man, it seems like it could

31:59 Speaker 13: be if I didn't know what was going on, like

32:01 Speaker 13: if you weren't paying attention to the news and things

32:05 Speaker 13: like that, it seems like life might be easier. But

32:07 Speaker 13: yet you really can't avoid it because it sort of

32:10 Speaker 13: keeps coming back to you. But the whole sort of

32:12 Speaker 13: shift in that song where it goes from being this

32:15 Speaker 13: sort of introspective thing to the sort of pop punk

32:18 Speaker 13: banger of a.

32:20 Speaker 20: Ridge, and then it comes back into the sort of

32:23 Speaker 20: the final verse there, and.

32:24 Speaker 13: Then the whole album sort of shifts at that point

32:26 Speaker 13: where it sort of goes into, hey, things are a

32:28 Speaker 13: little bit more. You know, it's as if you weren't

32:31 Speaker 13: paying attention to all of that, and we could just

32:33 Speaker 13: sort of get back to songs about people and about

32:35 Speaker 13: relationships and about the way you feel. And that's sort

32:37 Speaker 13: of where you know, I didn't hear what you say

32:40 Speaker 13: comes in sort of in that middle part of the album, right,

32:42 Speaker 13: and then it sort of slides.

32:43 Speaker 20: Back towards the end of the album.

32:44 Speaker 13: So it's you know that the whole album is sort

32:46 Speaker 13: of a reflection of the song Easier Written Large.

32:51 Speaker 9: Okay, okay, yeah, we'll play that one at the end

32:54 Speaker 9: of our conversation because that's another great track. Like I said,

32:56 Speaker 9: I like the whole thing. But but yeah, it's interesting too,

33:00 Speaker 9: how you know you're able to uh take these themes

33:03 Speaker 9: of of angst and and all of it that that

33:06 Speaker 9: people feel and but but do something that's actually fun

33:11 Speaker 9: and interesting to listen to, you know, because it's it's uh,

33:16 Speaker 9: if if you can take something that's dark or negative

33:18 Speaker 9: or however you want to think about it, but make

33:20 Speaker 9: something positive out of it.

33:22 Speaker 21: You know.

33:22 Speaker 9: That's that's the best way I think to be able

33:25 Speaker 9: to relate to people and and say here, here, here's

33:27 Speaker 9: what I'm saying. But but I'm putting it in a

33:29 Speaker 9: package that that you're going to enjoy listening to, and

33:32 Speaker 9: maybe we can kind of connect and relate on that level.

33:35 Speaker 9: And uh so I think it's great. You know, it's

33:39 Speaker 9: melodic and like a lot of these tracks are really fun.

33:42 Speaker 9: What about now, specifically that song, I didn't hear what

33:44 Speaker 9: you said. I'm curious to know more about that. It

33:47 Speaker 9: seems to address, as is evidenced by the title, you know,

33:50 Speaker 9: miscommunication and misunderstanding And and was there something specific that that,

33:55 Speaker 9: uh sort of pushed you to write that, or or

33:58 Speaker 9: maybe just more of a general thing.

34:00 Speaker 13: Like like many people, I'm a bit on the ady

34:03 Speaker 13: d side, and and I've certainly run issues where my head,

34:08 Speaker 13: you know, sort of my mind wandered in the middle

34:10 Speaker 13: of a conversation and I realized that I'm not quite

34:13 Speaker 13: paying attention to this person that I'm supposed to be

34:15 Speaker 13: talking to right now. They don't know this yet, but

34:19 Speaker 13: it's true, and so I am sort of nodding along,

34:22 Speaker 13: and yet my head is somewhere else, just sort of

34:24 Speaker 13: like in the beginning of that song where it's like

34:25 Speaker 13: this sort of persons just start talking to a girl

34:29 Speaker 13: and sort of daydreaming and thinking about her and looking

34:31 Speaker 13: at the you know, the necklace that she's wearing.

34:33 Speaker 20: Oh yeah, I got that for her back.

34:34 Speaker 3: What was that?

34:35 Speaker 20: When was that back in June? I think it was.

34:37 Speaker 13: And then she's saying something and you're realizing I'm not

34:42 Speaker 13: hearing this, And in the song, she realizes that she's

34:46 Speaker 13: not being listened to, and yet she's looking right at

34:48 Speaker 13: her right. She gets a little b upset about it,

34:51 Speaker 13: which is understandable. Any feels bad about this. I feel

34:55 Speaker 13: bad about this, but it's it's not a it's not on.

34:59 Speaker 9: Purpose, right, right exactly.

35:02 Speaker 20: And then the second verse is the same thing happens,

35:04 Speaker 20: except for your at work.

35:05 Speaker 1: Right.

35:05 Speaker 13: You're in a meeting somewhere and you're just sort of daydreaming.

35:07 Speaker 13: You didn't expect anybody talking to you in the first place,

35:09 Speaker 13: and so you're just sort of in some meeting and

35:11 Speaker 13: then they ask you a question.

35:12 Speaker 20: You're like, oh, wait, what I have no idea what

35:15 Speaker 20: he was talking about.

35:16 Speaker 13: And you're sort of, you know, sort of embarrassing to

35:18 Speaker 13: get caught in one of those moments there of you

35:20 Speaker 13: were supposed to be paying attention and you weren't.

35:22 Speaker 20: Right totally, everybody knows this now and what are you

35:25 Speaker 20: gonna do?

35:26 Speaker 21: Right?

35:27 Speaker 9: And it's and it's universal. Everyone's been in situations like that.

35:31 Speaker 9: But you know, it's all stuff that happens to everybody. Absolutely,

35:35 Speaker 9: But yeah, in the moment, though, it feels it's such

35:37 Speaker 9: a terrible feeling.

35:38 Speaker 20: Yeah, exactly.

35:41 Speaker 9: I'm curious too about your history. So you you were

35:44 Speaker 9: you played guitar and bass in some eighties bands, Is

35:47 Speaker 9: that correct?

35:48 Speaker 20: Yeah?

35:48 Speaker 13: I was in a few bands back in the eighties

35:51 Speaker 13: actually a little bit in the end of the nineties

35:53 Speaker 13: as well, Okay, And nothing big though, I mean, you know,

35:57 Speaker 13: just we were all sort of thlearning and getting better

35:59 Speaker 13: and playing things and planning clubs and and uh this

36:03 Speaker 13: this is like back in Ohio and Michigan and places

36:06 Speaker 13: like that.

36:06 Speaker 20: Sure, uh yeah.

36:09 Speaker 13: And then and then I sort of, you know, once

36:12 Speaker 13: I once I finished university and at the University of Michigan,

36:16 Speaker 13: I was, uh, you know, we're trying to do something

36:20 Speaker 13: interesting I wanted. I wanted to do a recording thing.

36:22 Speaker 13: We started a company doing podcasts, but it was a

36:25 Speaker 13: little bit early for podcasts because it was.

36:27 Speaker 20: The late eighties.

36:27 Speaker 5: Wow.

36:29 Speaker 13: So yeah, I mean the thing we made were if

36:31 Speaker 13: you listen to the now you like, those are podcasts,

36:33 Speaker 13: but it was wow, way too early for that. We

36:37 Speaker 13: shipped them out on audio cassettes to like there's company communication.

36:41 Speaker 20: Kind of thing. Okay, but it was definitely too early

36:43 Speaker 20: for that.

36:43 Speaker 13: So I sort of shifted into writing software and uh

36:48 Speaker 13: uh you know, was in this is the Massachusetts actually

36:50 Speaker 13: this is in Boston and Cambridge area, and uh yeah.

36:54 Speaker 13: So I worked you know for a company doing you know,

36:56 Speaker 13: router tech support and then writing code and building applications

37:00 Speaker 13: and building things in the Mac. And then eventually one

37:03 Speaker 13: of the things that we did caught the eye of

37:05 Speaker 13: Apple and Microsoft, and they flew me out to California

37:08 Speaker 13: and ended up working for Microsoft for twenty years off

37:11 Speaker 13: and on, wow, and and some other places in between

37:15 Speaker 13: some startups and some personal projects. And then a few

37:19 Speaker 13: years ago I finally finished that and said I really

37:24 Speaker 13: want to do the music thing again, and so yeah,

37:27 Speaker 13: I sort of left Microsoft and software at that point

37:31 Speaker 13: and started writing songs. And that's what the last it's

37:35 Speaker 13: been pretty much for the last three years.

37:37 Speaker 9: Oh, excellent, excellent. Now, was that always kind of in

37:40 Speaker 9: the back of your mind that you would end up

37:43 Speaker 9: back with doing music, or was there a moment of

37:47 Speaker 9: epiphany where you realized you had to get back to it,

37:50 Speaker 9: or how did you, like just kind of mentally, how

37:53 Speaker 9: did you get back to a place where you said, no,

37:55 Speaker 9: I need I need to really jump back into this

37:57 Speaker 9: full force, I need to do music.

38:00 Speaker 13: I'd always I bounced back and forth doing music at

38:05 Speaker 13: different times during that the you know, the software times,

38:08 Speaker 13: so you have you never I would.

38:10 Speaker 9: You never disengaged entirely from it.

38:12 Speaker 13: Well, I mean there were years where I did almost

38:14 Speaker 13: nothing with it, and the guitar sort of stayed in

38:16 Speaker 13: the closet. But I had the guitars, and then every

38:18 Speaker 13: few years I would sort of you know, open up

38:21 Speaker 13: like logic pro and and try to figure out some

38:24 Speaker 13: more stuff on it and maybe do a few songs

38:25 Speaker 13: on it.

38:26 Speaker 20: And then.

38:28 Speaker 13: And then stopped for a while and sort of would

38:30 Speaker 13: it would come and go. And we had you know,

38:32 Speaker 13: a family in there, we had kids in there, so

38:33 Speaker 13: a whole bunch of things happened, ye, But I always

38:38 Speaker 13: loved that. And there was an aspect of creating, writing

38:41 Speaker 13: songs and creating songs and recording them and doing the

38:44 Speaker 13: whole thing that that I loved. And you know, back

38:47 Speaker 13: in back in the University of Michigan, I ended up

38:50 Speaker 13: in a dorm that had a recording studio in the basement,

38:52 Speaker 13: the student run recording studio, and learned a whole bunch

38:54 Speaker 13: of stuff back then about doing this on you know,

38:57 Speaker 13: reil the real tape recording and things like that, and

39:01 Speaker 13: I just love doing it. And so every once in

39:04 Speaker 13: a while I would, you know, do some more of that.

39:06 Speaker 13: And then it was the point where it's like I've

39:09 Speaker 13: I think I'm done with the full time software thing.

39:13 Speaker 13: It wasn't more that I really wanted to get out

39:15 Speaker 13: of it. And and during the pandemic, we bought a

39:22 Speaker 13: place up here on Widbey Island and it had a

39:24 Speaker 13: four car garage and I don't have four cars, so

39:28 Speaker 13: took half of that.

39:29 Speaker 20: And made it into a little studio.

39:31 Speaker 13: Nice made it soundproof so that when when you're recording

39:35 Speaker 13: a song, I think musician will know this that you

39:39 Speaker 13: play the same part over and over and over and

39:40 Speaker 13: over and over again, and to anybody who's not involved

39:43 Speaker 13: in that, it's really annoying. But if you're doing it,

39:48 Speaker 13: you need to do that so you can hear it.

39:49 Speaker 13: Then you're making all these little fine tweets and stuff

39:51 Speaker 13: like that. So building a room that was soundproofed meant

39:54 Speaker 13: that I could do that and not bother anybody else.

39:58 Speaker 13: And I could do that without having any you know,

40:01 Speaker 13: cars or dogs or whatever it is barking well and

40:04 Speaker 13: trying to record vocals or guitars or something like that.

40:06 Speaker 13: And so once I sat up the space, it was like, okay, wait,

40:10 Speaker 13: I could do this for real now. And that sort

40:15 Speaker 13: of coincided with the hey, I'm sort of feel like

40:19 Speaker 13: I'm done with the software business, and which has an

40:22 Speaker 13: ironic twist on that one, but we'll get that later, okay, okay,

40:26 Speaker 13: And yeah, so I started I just started writing songs

40:30 Speaker 13: and realized that I can.

40:31 Speaker 20: I can do this full time now.

40:34 Speaker 13: And I think that's what you know, twenty to thirty

40:37 Speaker 13: years and software will do for at least, let's set

40:39 Speaker 13: up we can we can dedicate time with this. Yeah,

40:42 Speaker 13: I'm very appreciative of that, and so yeah, so I

40:45 Speaker 13: started doing this all the time, and then writing with

40:49 Speaker 13: other people and getting involved with, you know, a bunch

40:55 Speaker 13: of different songwriter communities and collaborating and and writing with

40:58 Speaker 13: other groups of people and and producing the songs. And

41:04 Speaker 13: did my first album very early. Actually, I go back

41:08 Speaker 13: and look at them, like, there's some songs in therely

41:09 Speaker 13: I love, but it's it's clearly early.

41:11 Speaker 9: Yeah.

41:12 Speaker 13: But then I spend a bunch you know, I just

41:14 Speaker 13: did a lot of writing, and you knew a lot

41:16 Speaker 13: of it, and you keep you know, keep at it,

41:20 Speaker 13: and you get better at it. And yeah, so the

41:23 Speaker 13: songs have gotten better, the production has gotten better, the

41:25 Speaker 13: collaborations have gotten better, and uh yeah, so I just

41:29 Speaker 13: love that. It's just so satisfying to be able to

41:31 Speaker 13: come in here each day and just work on it

41:34 Speaker 13: and write some new songs. And and the tough part

41:37 Speaker 13: is keeping track of all of it.

41:38 Speaker 9: Because there's a lot right right, no doubt are you?

41:41 Speaker 9: Are you doing everything yourself in terms of the instruments,

41:46 Speaker 9: is all the playing on these?

41:47 Speaker 13: Is that all you yeah, these are all me okay,

41:52 Speaker 13: and uh and and I as you'll you know, you've

41:54 Speaker 13: listened to it. So there's a few songs where I

41:56 Speaker 13: have some guest vocalists in yeah, and those usually off

42:01 Speaker 13: off of those people that I write with. You know,

42:03 Speaker 13: they'll they'll they'll join in for for you know, one

42:05 Speaker 13: of the songs we collaborate on. But most of the

42:07 Speaker 13: songs there are just me. I wrote to myselves and

42:10 Speaker 13: produce the whole thing and recorded and it's on me.

42:12 Speaker 9: Okay, wow. I mean that must be incredibly liberating. I mean,

42:16 Speaker 9: it sounds like you enjoy collaboration, but at the same time,

42:19 Speaker 9: I would imagine to be able to do so much

42:21 Speaker 9: of it yourself, aside from you know, guest vocalists as

42:24 Speaker 9: you mentioned. I mean, that's got to be pretty pretty satisfying,

42:27 Speaker 9: I would guess.

42:28 Speaker 11: And it is.

42:28 Speaker 13: I think it comes from a you know, I don't know,

42:31 Speaker 13: maybe not the best place of I don't like getting

42:33 Speaker 13: stuck or I'm blocked on waiting for someone.

42:36 Speaker 20: Else to be able to finish something right, yep.

42:39 Speaker 13: And if it was a point where it's like, oh,

42:41 Speaker 13: I'd love to do more, but oh this person's I

42:43 Speaker 13: need them to do this, but they're busy, or that

42:45 Speaker 13: you know, I can't get back, they won't get back

42:47 Speaker 13: in touch with me, or those kinds of things.

42:48 Speaker 20: And I just I hate the idea of being stuck.

42:51 Speaker 9: Yes, yes, blocked on it.

42:53 Speaker 20: And so by being able to do any of.

42:56 Speaker 13: The parts, I'm never blocked, right, So I can always

43:00 Speaker 13: finish songs and release them and and those kinds of things,

43:02 Speaker 13: and I'm not stuck by someone else. But at the

43:05 Speaker 13: same time, you know, a having there are songs that

43:10 Speaker 13: I write sometimes that we write that are songs to

43:13 Speaker 13: be sung by a woman, and I can't do that,

43:18 Speaker 13: and so that's you know, it's it's having having a

43:21 Speaker 13: group of people that I can write with or or

43:23 Speaker 13: call on say hey, I think the song would be

43:25 Speaker 13: amazing with your voice, and having to be able to

43:28 Speaker 13: jump in is just wonderful.

43:29 Speaker 9: Well with AI tools though, and and you know this,

43:32 Speaker 9: you probably could.

43:33 Speaker 11: Uh.

43:35 Speaker 20: I've played around with that a little bit, but I

43:38 Speaker 20: don't like. I don't like the results. I mean, they're

43:40 Speaker 20: getting better, but it's.

43:44 Speaker 13: There's something that's that definitely feels more, uh, you know,

43:49 Speaker 13: connecting yes, an actual person singing it with the A.

43:53 Speaker 20: I mean, sometimes the A voices are a little bit

43:55 Speaker 20: too perfect.

43:55 Speaker 13: Sometimes they're you know, they don't they don't breathe because

43:58 Speaker 13: they don't have to breathe.

44:00 Speaker 9: That's true.

44:00 Speaker 13: The way that they see something, you know it it

44:04 Speaker 13: starts to feel something just a little bit off in it.

44:09 Speaker 13: And so yeah, it's it's you know, so I've tried

44:12 Speaker 13: it and and for you know, when if I'm writing

44:13 Speaker 13: something for a film or a TV show or something

44:17 Speaker 13: like that, then you know, something for for a sinc opportunity.

44:20 Speaker 13: It doesn't quite matter as much if you use some

44:22 Speaker 13: of those things sometimes. But yeah, but if but if

44:25 Speaker 13: I can get it, you know, actual person seeing it,

44:27 Speaker 13: it's always going to feel a bit more connected.

44:28 Speaker 9: Right, right. Have you been surprised by by the reception

44:33 Speaker 9: I saw Let's see I saw something here from Spill

44:36 Speaker 9: magazine said it's infectious, feel good rock introspection and hope

44:41 Speaker 9: A Sonics Morgas Sport. That's pretty cool. That's that's that's

44:45 Speaker 9: definitely I praise.

44:48 Speaker 20: Yeah, it's been great. Yeah, it's been just a little

44:51 Speaker 20: over months since the album came out.

44:54 Speaker 13: Uh, and yeah, it's been really just wonderful to see

44:58 Speaker 13: you know, the the reviews of it and great, Uh,

45:01 Speaker 13: the people I've heard from who've listened to it, I've

45:03 Speaker 13: really enjoyed it. It's it's a it's there's a lot

45:05 Speaker 13: of different sort of It's a little bit more stylistically

45:08 Speaker 13: diverse than my second album, which is a little bit

45:10 Speaker 13: more sort of power pop pop, you know, uh pop

45:13 Speaker 13: punk type stuff, and this album has some of that certainly,

45:17 Speaker 13: but you know, with with songs like you know, Isotope

45:22 Speaker 13: and Falling from Down, which are definitely harder rock kind

45:25 Speaker 13: of songs, which and I come from, you know, in

45:29 Speaker 13: in in those bands in the eighties, we've played a

45:30 Speaker 13: lot of you know, hard rock metal songs like Black

45:33 Speaker 13: Sabbath and you know whatever, and so I love a

45:37 Speaker 13: good crunchy guitar part. Yeah, uh, and so I was

45:42 Speaker 13: really I loved doing those tunes. But then songs like

45:46 Speaker 13: You at My Door, which has Lana Tani singing on it,

45:50 Speaker 13: is you know, a more sort of traditional piano ballad

45:53 Speaker 13: song but with a bit of a shift in it, uh,

45:56 Speaker 13: twist in the story, and that's you know, that was

46:00 Speaker 13: sort of a different thing. But I just loved that

46:02 Speaker 13: song so much that that partument was like, I just

46:04 Speaker 13: want to have it on the album. And then when

46:06 Speaker 13: I and I got heart to sing it was great.

46:08 Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, I'm curious too. I have to ask you

46:11 Speaker 9: and you probably got this question a lot. But being

46:14 Speaker 9: where you are geographically, I mean, has that influenced your

46:17 Speaker 9: sound at all or I mean being in Seattle or

46:21 Speaker 9: Seattle A Jason, Are you actually in Seattle or even

46:23 Speaker 9: one of those suburbs.

46:24 Speaker 20: I was in Seattle.

46:25 Speaker 13: I lived in Seattle, you know, we lived in Seattle

46:27 Speaker 13: until until we bought this place up here and we

46:32 Speaker 13: and uh so, I you know, I've been in the

46:35 Speaker 13: area for since the nineties, so it's yeah, yeah, I've

46:39 Speaker 13: been all of the airplace in the area basically. But yeah,

46:42 Speaker 13: we were in in in Seattle proper for a while,

46:45 Speaker 13: which was great. U until the pandemic Yeah, yep, yep,

46:52 Speaker 13: less so I mean it was still fine, but it

46:54 Speaker 13: was you know, you couldn't go do a lot of

46:56 Speaker 13: the things that that were great about being in the city,

46:59 Speaker 13: right uh and uh yeah, so I mean I I

47:03 Speaker 13: you know, I love the Seattle bands, particularly from the

47:06 Speaker 13: nineties of Pearl Jam and and and Nirvana and Sound

47:10 Speaker 13: Garden and.

47:12 Speaker 20: You know, all of that sound is just you know,

47:14 Speaker 20: was huge. And yeah, there's a lot of nineties sound

47:17 Speaker 20: in what I do.

47:18 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, so yeah, absolutely.

47:22 Speaker 20: You know, it was it's a huge influence.

47:23 Speaker 13: I wasn't actually here for most of the nineties, so

47:25 Speaker 13: I wasn't here during the early nineties when all the

47:28 Speaker 13: stuff was happening because I was in Massachusetts then, but

47:32 Speaker 13: it was uh, yeah, it's it's it's still part of

47:36 Speaker 13: the feel here. Going to go to the airport and

47:38 Speaker 13: there's all sorts of you know, pictures in the airport

47:42 Speaker 13: of of Pearl.

47:42 Speaker 20: Jam and Nirvana.

47:43 Speaker 13: I can imagine, yeah, Hendrix and and all these you

47:47 Speaker 13: know things, because it's just a big part of what

47:49 Speaker 13: Seattle is and uh and the feel is still there

47:52 Speaker 13: for that.

47:52 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Well, by the way, where does

47:55 Speaker 9: the name audio Guests come from? What's the meaning behind

47:58 Speaker 9: audio Gusts?

48:00 Speaker 20: So I guess there's two parts of it.

48:02 Speaker 13: One, I can't use my regular name, Chris Evans, because

48:05 Speaker 13: there's an awful lot of them out there.

48:07 Speaker 9: Yeah, common common name, one of them being very famous.

48:10 Speaker 13: Some of them are very well known depending on where

48:12 Speaker 13: you are. There's another one in England who's very well known.

48:17 Speaker 8: Uh.

48:18 Speaker 13: And so I needed to have an artist named that

48:20 Speaker 13: was something else. So audio gust is a it was

48:24 Speaker 13: something that I could that I could get that was

48:26 Speaker 13: you know available. Yeah, and you know, there weren't a

48:29 Speaker 13: lot of other people doing it. But you could think

48:33 Speaker 13: of like singing as just sort of a combination of wind,

48:37 Speaker 13: air and sound. Yeah, and all sound really is sort

48:41 Speaker 13: of waves and it's just sort of vibrations through the air.

48:43 Speaker 13: So it's you know, it's moving air. It is is

48:46 Speaker 13: sort of a sound. It is motion.

48:49 Speaker 12: It is.

48:51 Speaker 20: Yeah, just sort of a cross of of of sound

48:54 Speaker 20: and motion.

48:55 Speaker 9: Yeah, that makes sense, makes sense.

48:58 Speaker 19: I like it.

48:58 Speaker 9: It's a cool name. Definitely a cool name. We're almost

49:01 Speaker 9: out of time, Chris, it goes quickly. What's the ironic

49:04 Speaker 9: twist about your software career?

49:07 Speaker 20: Ah?

49:08 Speaker 13: So, as I was writing all of these songs, and

49:12 Speaker 13: when you write a song, there's a whole bunch of

49:13 Speaker 13: information you need to track along with it, like for

49:15 Speaker 13: of course, what are the lyrics and what key is

49:17 Speaker 13: it in? But also like what do I need to

49:20 Speaker 13: do still on this recording of it? And you know

49:22 Speaker 13: where if I registered it with the different all the

49:25 Speaker 13: different places you register songs with, and what's the link

49:27 Speaker 13: to it on Spotify versus Apple Music versus whatever else?

49:30 Speaker 13: And so I did what a software guy does as

49:32 Speaker 13: I wrote an app. Ah, I used to track all

49:35 Speaker 13: of my songs and all of my recordings and all

49:37 Speaker 13: the people that I write with and and the current

49:40 Speaker 13: state of all of them. And I've recently realized, after

49:44 Speaker 13: you know, showing a bunch of people and letting them

49:45 Speaker 13: sort of play around with it, that I need to

49:47 Speaker 13: release this app because it's a really really useful tool

49:50 Speaker 13: for songwriters and music producers and such to do this.

49:54 Speaker 13: So sometime in the next month or two, I'm going

49:57 Speaker 13: to be releasing this app called studio Notes, which is

50:00 Speaker 13: exactly that. It's an app for organizing all of your

50:02 Speaker 13: songs and and it's not you know, we don't, I

50:05 Speaker 13: don't store the music on there. They's playing a place

50:07 Speaker 13: where you can anxious store the files. But it's yeah,

50:10 Speaker 13: it's all of the information about all of the songs

50:13 Speaker 13: you write, and the recordings of them, in the current

50:15 Speaker 13: state of them, and the collaborations and who has signed

50:18 Speaker 13: what agreements and all of those kinds of things.

50:20 Speaker 9: Oh, that is extremely cool and very useful, and I'm

50:22 Speaker 9: sure a lot of our listeners will enjoy hearing about

50:24 Speaker 9: that because you know, a lot of a lot of musicians,

50:27 Speaker 9: and you know, people who make up our audience. There's

50:29 Speaker 9: a lot of musicians, a lot of industry people, so

50:31 Speaker 9: that's that's very cool. So it's called Studio Notes.

50:34 Speaker 20: Yeah, and and the website is up right now.

50:37 Speaker 13: You can't actually the store app is not in the

50:38 Speaker 13: story yet, Okay, studio is Studio notes dot app. Oka

50:43 Speaker 13: probably shouldn't have said that, but I did, because the

50:46 Speaker 13: website's up there. The link to go to the store

50:47 Speaker 13: course doesn't work yet because yea, it's not in the store.

50:49 Speaker 13: But if you know, if anybody's curious, you can go

50:51 Speaker 13: and sort of see what it's about, and you know,

50:54 Speaker 13: send me a comment or whatever if your just did.

50:56 Speaker 13: And I'll make sure to let everybody who does know

50:59 Speaker 13: when it's actually a up in life of the story.

51:01 Speaker 20: But I'm sort of finishing nothing.

51:03 Speaker 9: Oh, extremely cool, very good, very good, Chris. This is

51:05 Speaker 9: I wish we had more time. I could definitely talk

51:07 Speaker 9: to you longer. You're you're an interesting guy and I'm

51:10 Speaker 9: very I love your love your music. But but yes, yes,

51:14 Speaker 9: we are approaching the top of the hour, so we'll

51:15 Speaker 9: start to wind down. I'm gonna close the segment with

51:19 Speaker 9: this track Easier that we were talking about. This is

51:21 Speaker 9: another another great song from the album.

51:23 Speaker 2: But where's the.

51:24 Speaker 9: Best place for people to go to learn? More and

51:26 Speaker 9: keep up with everything that that you're doing as audio guests.

51:30 Speaker 13: Uh, audio gust dot com is the website perfect sort

51:35 Speaker 13: of the center of everything. You can follow me of

51:37 Speaker 13: course on audio guest music, on on Instagram or you know,

51:41 Speaker 13: I'm in Threads and a bunch of those places, but uh, yeah,

51:44 Speaker 13: the the core of that would be your guest dot

51:46 Speaker 13: com is where I usually try to keep everything.

51:49 Speaker 20: Yeah up to date.

51:50 Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely well, Chris, thank you so much. We're

51:53 Speaker 9: going to play this track in a moment easier. Love

51:57 Speaker 9: love the love the song, and I love the album,

51:59 Speaker 9: and congratulations on everything that you're doing. And we look

52:03 Speaker 9: forward to having you back when you've got new music

52:06 Speaker 9: or jeez, we might even have you back on sooner

52:08 Speaker 9: to talk about the app when when it comes out,

52:10 Speaker 9: because like I said, I think a lot of our

52:11 Speaker 9: listeners would be very interested in that. But I love

52:13 Speaker 9: the album Falling from Down. Everyone should listen to the

52:15 Speaker 9: whole thing. It's it's really really good. So we'll hit

52:18 Speaker 9: that track and we'll let you go for now. But

52:20 Speaker 9: Chris Evans Audio Gust, thank you so much and we'll

52:23 Speaker 9: talk to you soon.

52:24 Speaker 20: Thank you. I appreciate that much, all right.

52:26 Speaker 9: Absolutely take care, Bye bye. All right, what an interesting guy,

52:30 Speaker 9: Chris Evans. His project is Audio Gust. We're gonna play

52:33 Speaker 9: this track easier and we are rapidly approaching the end

52:37 Speaker 9: of the show, so that'll probably be it for this week.

52:39 Speaker 9: Thank you to everybody who joined us today. Of course

52:41 Speaker 9: the guys from Down Boys, they were in studio with us.

52:43 Speaker 9: That was wonderful. We talked to Jesse Kill Gus and

52:48 Speaker 9: Dots and Moon and a nice busy show. And let's

52:51 Speaker 9: see if you want to keep up with everything I'm doing.

52:55 Speaker 9: Sometimes I forget to plug my own website, Matt connorton

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53:00 Speaker 9: it will be up in just a little bit w

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53:07 Speaker 9: for now. We're gonna talk to you a little bit

53:09 Speaker 9: later by everybody. And here it is. This is easier

53:12 Speaker 9: and the project is Audio Guest.

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55:54 Speaker 9: Flew the flag in for my soul and stuff.

55:59 Speaker 15: Because now the virtue face the craft comburations.

56:07 Speaker 21: Fast sha pass.

56:09 Speaker 14: So I resist, but face the facts.

56:15 Speaker 2: So it would be.

56:23 Speaker 12: Most day it would be easy. Every day would be easy.

56:39 Speaker 2: If I didn't know.

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