Matt Connarton Unleashed 2-21-26 hour 2

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0:12 Speaker 3: Three right now the world radio premiere of the debut single from Moving On coming out February twenty seven. Absolutely,

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4:29 Speaker 14: He's poison in the lead in the Lord, Lead in the Lord.

4:39 Speaker 13: If we believe news.

4:43 Speaker 15: Nine miles high, there's a cion sky.

4:49 Speaker 6: They see his side laid on b the view.

4:57 Speaker 10: Travelers nice, so please see the sun shine seems so fin. Bit say you say with me, just say be by my side?

5:44 Speaker 15: Seen morning and they see you in the dark.

5:50 Speaker 8: And y'all wait there if you say it up time.

5:58 Speaker 16: Nine miles half electric gets the night.

6:04 Speaker 6: Live anywhere and everywhere your.

6:11 Speaker 10: I try, but it's nice, so easy, the sun shine see you so fine? I say, you say with me, just say you'll.

6:32 Speaker 15: Speak by my side.

7:30 Speaker 7: That tribe.

7:31 Speaker 6: But it's not so easy. Sun shine seems.

7:38 Speaker 13: So fun me.

7:43 Speaker 17: I say, if you say.

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8:08 Speaker 3: I love that. That is nine miles High. The band is Howling Hawk, and uh, let's see who we have from the band on the line with us a via WhatsApp. Hello, welcome to the show. Hi, thanks for having me absolutely So who is this? Who do we have on the line with us?

8:24 Speaker 1: So this is Jim. I'm the singer, the bassist, and I write the chunes outstanding.

8:29 Speaker 3: I'm glad that you're a singing bassist because I am also a bass player. And uh, I don't feel that we get enough time out in front.

8:36 Speaker 1: You know, we're dying breed. You lead guitarist at ten a penny, but a good bass players worth his.

8:43 Speaker 3: Weight and exactly, I completely agree. And i love that track nine Miles High. And I'm really curious to ask you now, did you write the lyrics to that?

8:53 Speaker 1: Of course?

8:53 Speaker 3: Of course, all right, tell me about tell me about these lyrics because very very interesting and uh, I really want to dive into this. I'm excited to talk to you about the song.

9:05 Speaker 1: A friend of mine went through a phase where he spent a little bit too much time enjoying medicinal herbs and listening to his Twitter feed, and he began he was getting increasingly paranoid every time a helicopter went over here coming to look for him. Oh wow, you know, close to making Tim Foyle hats So there's about having a friend who's going down that dangerous rabbit hole and trying to pull him back from the brink. Yeah, that's the vibe. I don't know how much of that comes across, but that's what I was going for.

9:42 Speaker 18: Yeah.

9:42 Speaker 3: No, that's interesting because I think that that I don't know, I don't know what kind of feedback you've gotten on this, but to me, that seems highly relatable because I think, and I can tell you here in America, you know, there's there's a conspiracy theorism and all that stuff is rampant, and there are a lot of people who who there are a lot of people who don't need any any anything to help them get there. They just they just somehow managed to get there on their own. And it's frightening.

10:14 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people over here who have just been waiting for confirmation of a lot of what you It's it's so difficult now reading the news every single day and having these little nudges that maybe the conspiracy theories were true. I got all excited about eighteen months ago when there are a bunch of expressidents talking about aliens. That sounded kind of fun, but it's taking a bit of a dark turn. Sit then.

10:38 Speaker 3: It has it has, So I mean, what kind of feedback have you gotten on the song? Do you find that other people can also really kind of relate to this?

10:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, people seem to like it. It's a lot of what we play is very deliberately like nineties focused, big choruses, britpop, and this is the one where we've gone a little bit a little more X files. Yeah, and people seem to appreciate it, So maybe that will be a direction we've tried to do. We've got a release plan for this year. We've got to put a song out every month. Okay, so we've got our next single is out next Friday, which is a very different vibe. But I think for the next few after that we're going to go back to the back to the well for some weird stuff.

11:22 Speaker 3: Okay, Oh cool? What is that kind of your So you're going to be releasing a single every month? Is that? Is that the long term strategy? Are you going to do? You have any plans to do an EP or an album? You know? We we live in a time where there's so many different strategies for releasing music, so I'm curious or maybe these singles will eventually coalesce into an album or what one's kind of the long term strategy.

11:43 Speaker 1: Well, probably every now and again, collect stuff together into a into a whatever feels best, So like collect them together by vibe. Yeah, we've got a CD. We've got a CD with putting out Next Friday, which is the most recent three songs that we've recorded. Not that we plan to do them like that, but they just they fit quite together. We're doing one single a month because it's just so hard to get anything out and through the noise since we since we started playing together that there's been just this explosion of AI created dross.

12:17 Speaker 1: So it's apparently Spotify. I'm not a big fan of the fact that Spotify exists, but to be fair to them, if they're having to deal with one hundred and fifty thousand AI songs uploaded every day, oh yeah, it's how do you get through that? It's because of people like it's going to be people like you that help bands fight through the noise. So thank you for what you're doing.

12:37 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I appreciate that Yeah, you know, we're doing what we can. But we actually did a segment on that recently about Spotify and how how they've they've begun to delete a lot of AI generated music. Of course, the tricky thing there is too, I always say this, some people are going to get There are legitimate artists who are going to get caught in that as well. And that's a tricky thing too, because on one hand, Okay, you want to delete all this AI generated stuff, that's good. But at the same time, there are artists who maybe there's there's something in their music that flags gets the attention of the bot that is going through all this.

13:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

13:21 Speaker 1: And there are only so many beats that you can play, right, I think that the solution might I'm sure your listeners know of a noh band camp?

13:31 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh, I love band camp.

13:32 Speaker 1: Which is which is a great idea. The trouble with band camp, I think, is that ninety percent of the people use it a musician selling their own music. It hasn't really got like mainstream traction. If there was a way of pushing people towards that, or if Spotify could do a at a button to buy a song, if you like it enough for whatever pennies you know, yeah whatever, that'd be a game changer. But until then, it's just a case of trying to get your music in front of people however you can. I'm so grateful if you're playing these songs to people who otherwise I'd have no way of reaching.

14:06 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful.

14:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we're like I said, We're glad to do it. And I do love that song. I'm curious about you know, you mentioned britt Pop and what that song to me? I mean, I'm a huge Oasis fan and you know, I job what's that?

14:22 Speaker 1: Good job?

14:23 Speaker 3: Thank you? Oh Morning Glory is one of my favorite albums ever. But or no, I'm sorry, I definitely maybe I'm sorry, but I'm curious about what other you know? Because you're in where where are you exactly? I'm not sure your exact location.

14:40 Speaker 1: I'm in London. You're in London was the center of the universe musically until not so long ago. Yeah, you go back a few years and you couldn't walk down the street without bumping into someone work. I mean, I talk about Oasis. I bumped into an old Gallagher in a supermarket here. Oh no, getting like just ambushed him while he was trying to buy his butter, and he was a lovely man. Lovely man, and he's very like that. That used to be pretty standard around here. Amy Winehouse brought me lunch at breakfast with Black Sabbath.

15:16 Speaker 1: I've got photo evidence of a lot of that.

15:19 Speaker 3: Wow.

15:20 Speaker 1: Now, it's just there's been such a what's the word, a fragmentation of that industry that it's just hard for any of those little ecosystems to sustain themselves. Sure, there's there, there are a couple of new bands getting through. There's a few. There's a band called Westside Cowboy that are breaking through that sound pretty good like a traditional guitar band.

15:46 Speaker 3: Interesting, so in terms of.

15:49 Speaker 1: Like, we we love the britpop thing because we what we really love is choruses. Man, people bands now seem to be sort of embarrassed about writing choruses. The look so moody. Why do you The guitar is meant to make you feel good? That's the point at the end, at the end of a gig. If if you've got a bunch of people who have only seen you for the first time, yeah, I don't think nine out of ten of them are going to walk away remembering your lyrics, but remember.

16:16 Speaker 3: Make them feel exactly.

16:19 Speaker 1: That's it man, aim for aim for the joy exactly.

16:22 Speaker 3: No, I agree, I agree. Is there is there like a pressure coming from there in terms of, you know, being being a band from from London? Well actually though, well interestingly, so you're in London, but not all the band members are correct.

16:37 Speaker 1: Oh they're all in London now they are?

16:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so we're we all live Oh good, okay, okay, so.

16:44 Speaker 1: Now we're a real like in person band. Oh good, and we yea and we so the guitarist one of them, Parlo. He's Italian, as you can guess from Yeah, Gonzalo is Gonzalo is Chilean.

16:58 Speaker 3: Oh okay.

17:00 Speaker 1: But all we came together with the It was all we found each other online and came together for the love of the same music.

17:06 Speaker 3: Yeah.

17:07 Speaker 1: I mean you can tell what music we like from listening to ourselves. We're on ours leaves.

17:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, So is there a pressure like being a London band in terms of just I mean, you mentioned trying to cut through the noise. There's that part, but is there also this thing where, like you said, you know, it used to be if it's not still or one of the centers of of the of the musical universe. Like do people expect you as a band from London to is there a certain expectation there or or a certain expectation in terms of your sound or I really can't.

17:40 Speaker 1: I mean we're just so blessed to be from London. Yeah, it just carries a certain a certain weight I think. Like this is the venue that we're playing next Saturday is called the Troubadour. Oh yes, any I mean that's it's the last surviving sixties venue. We'll be playing on the same stage that who Jimmy Hendrix, Rolling Stones used to play on, And that's the It's just an ordinary venue. It's not like a museum. So yeah, we're really spoilt like that, and just the I mean I half joke about bumping into people, but you really can find amazing people.

18:13 Speaker 1: The guy that the song you just played was recorded for as by a guy called Paul Tipler, who was a lovely man and he runs a little studio in London. He charges next to nothing for it and he's put out. He's produced Doctor Feel Good. He did the first recordings by Placebo. Like he's there are just these people around, like there's a really nice I've never met anyone who wants to do anyone down in music. I haven't everyone everyone's been lovely.

18:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that might be.

18:45 Speaker 1: I do love London, but there is something magic about it now.

18:48 Speaker 6: Is it?

18:48 Speaker 3: Unit thirteen? Is that where you recorded that?

18:51 Speaker 19: It is?

18:51 Speaker 1: Yeah?

18:52 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, great, great sound. You know obviously it came out really well. Have you recorded the previous singles that you've released or are releasing? Are those all recorded there as well?

19:03 Speaker 1: So we did a song called The Downside that came out I think earlier this year with him and the next the next song, Delilah, is that next Friday. I'll send it to you after after this chat to enjoy a few if you're interested.

19:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, what what what song is it?

19:18 Speaker 1: It's called Delilah?

19:19 Speaker 3: Oh, Delilah? Okay, okay, and I do have you also sent us Ramona, which I'm going to play at the end of our our conversation. That's a great song too. I really like that.

19:28 Speaker 1: A lot that was that was produced by a friend of ours called Cucko, who runs Damon Albarn's studio, which is also called thirteen Studios.

19:39 Speaker 3: I guess it's amazing.

19:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's there's a magic there, right.

19:45 Speaker 3: Oh, that's excellent. So in terms of writing, you know, obviously you mentioned Nine Miles High. You wrote the lyrics. I assume did you also write the music to that.

19:55 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I tend to come in with just really basic towards and a melody and but my voice won't change. But I tried to give the rest of the band as much space as they as they want to develop it.

20:08 Speaker 3: Has it been that way from the beginning with this project.

20:11 Speaker 20: Yeah?

20:11 Speaker 1: Absolutely. It means to feel that I don't want it to be me and my session band. It has to be those guys expressing themselves. It's a nice Arctic Monkeys style riffing that the Power came up with.

20:22 Speaker 3: Oh okay, you're right, No, that's yeah, that's cool. And then I assume what's the live situation, like, are you doing a lot of shows? You you know, you did mention the show at the Troubadour coming up. If you've been playing a lot, because I can imagine I would assume that in London there's a lot of places to play, or maybe not, I'm assuming, but.

20:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are loads of venues. But the audiences for live bands aren't quite what they used to be. I'm from Camden, which is I mean, it was the musical hub, but so many of those venues are closed down now just because the constant tax and business rates keep keep going up, which pushes some good people out of business.

21:02 Speaker 3: Right.

21:03 Speaker 1: But that said, that said, there are some growing scenes. There's some wonderful people here. There's Debbe from Cooper Concepts who's built a fantastic little scene over in West London. There's a new friend of ours called Johnny. I only know him as Johnny Middleman. He's a bit secretive. He's he's putting on the gig at the Trouper Door as part of what he's trying to develop into a gig cooperative with the London were a London band and there are three other bands from other major English cities. So they're going to come down and see us and then soon we'll go up and play their places.

21:35 Speaker 1: Because that's, as I say, being from London, we're so blessed that it's easy for us to get gigs in London. Yeah we can, just you know, you get a bus there, it's not hard. But if you've got to come down from Manchester or Liverpool. That's that's a.

21:47 Speaker 3: Big investment right right now. That's that's excellent. Are are you playing like pretty consistently or what's what's the what's the schedule?

21:56 Speaker 1: As much as we can, we've got to we play a lot to each other. We've got to shared that we're always playing it. Yeah, but in terms of like we're trying to play one London Giga month and then get out of London to play other places.

22:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really curious what the name Howling Hawk means. I'm sure you get this question all the time, but uh, I like the name, but I'm curious what it means.

22:22 Speaker 1: It's just Howling Wolf was taken. That's about it one time ago.

22:28 Speaker 3: Yeah.

22:28 Speaker 1: I think that the best, the best rock and roll band name ever is the Rolling Stones for me, okay, And we were trying to come up with something in the same bluesy vein and just something about that. Howling stuck and we went through it to try and find you've got Arctic monkeys. We didn't want it to be ridiculous like hawling penguin. Certain edge to it.

22:50 Speaker 3: No, I like it. I like it. Did you did the name come easily or did you have to go through some to find one that you agree on?

22:57 Speaker 1: God? No, I've had so many, so many, terror all terrible names.

23:01 Speaker 3: Okay, I love I love hearing about rejected band names. Give me, give me what you got. I love this.

23:07 Speaker 1: The lema was floated around for a while, really, as in the monkey, the little furry thing, that something exotic and cool?

23:18 Speaker 3: What was it gonna be? Howleen lemur or just uh see if.

23:21 Speaker 1: We'd have had you? We we went through a phase of just adding colors, two different nouns as well, Okay, red, the red seven, you know, the blue whatever the blue. But yeah, harling Hawk has done quite well. It looks pretty good on a T shirt as well.

23:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. No, it's a cool name. Although the red seven is kind of cool. I wonder, I wonder if anyone else has taken that. I do like that, But I think, excuse me, I think, no, Hawlleen Hawk is a great name. And what how long has this project existed?

24:05 Speaker 6: When?

24:06 Speaker 3: When? When? Roughly did you start this?

24:09 Speaker 21: Well?

24:09 Speaker 1: I met the guitarist Reese, the guitarist Gunzalo and Parlo about two years back. Okay, and we've had a series of different drummers for different reasons too. We met We met Reese in about the summer of last year. Okay, so probably since then. This feels like the band at the moment.

24:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is a relatively new project then in the grand scheme of things.

24:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so if everything's we're still learning how to do everything really.

24:40 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's interesting too that you mentioned about drummers. It sounds like you've been through a few. I don't know if it's the same there, but I can tell you here every drummer I know is in just multiple projects because there's only you know, we we talked at the beginning about how bass players are, you know, harder to find. Drummers are like impossible.

25:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I only played the bass because I couldn't find a bassis. So yeah, I've got two guitarists and bought bass instead. But this this drummer, now, Reese, aside from being a talented drummer, he sings as well. Yeah, so it's been leaning into that to try and build up that Lennon and McCartney vocal vibe.

25:19 Speaker 18: Right.

25:19 Speaker 1: It's ridiculously arrogant, isn't it. How can he jump from he jumped to Lennon and McCartney. Yeah, yeah, far more, far more average than Lenna McCartney. But we're going to have multiple voices from now so that should be fun.

25:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think that's excellent. So so the show at the Troubadour is on the twenty eighth, so that's a big deal. Who do you want to mention? Who else is on that show with you? You guys are the headliners? Correct, Yeah, we are, and.

25:46 Speaker 1: They're they're only I think a few. It's like a handful of tickets left now, which is really eating because it's being filmed and recorded as well. Excellent to put out live at the Troubadour EP later in the year.

26:03 Speaker 3: Oh, very cool.

26:05 Speaker 1: So the other bands we've got, uh is a band called and the Mama's Boys.

26:10 Speaker 3: Okay, that's fantastic.

26:17 Speaker 1: There's a band called black Manas okay, well, and they're they're really good. Some of their stuff sounds a bit like they're from Manchester, so if you imagine LCD sound system but with a thick Manchester.

26:30 Speaker 3: Accent, okay, okay, interesting.

26:32 Speaker 1: And there's another band called Brides who are really cool okay, and they'll be grateful for that. Shout out.

26:39 Speaker 3: So yeah, no doubt, no doubt, that's great. And then so what's what's the next thing after that? Because I know, well, well, actually let me ask it this way. When does the or maybe it's already started. You said, you know you guys are going to do one single a month, So is that is that cycle already begun? As far as I know, nine Miles High is new?

27:01 Speaker 18: Right?

27:01 Speaker 3: What is that about this month or last month?

27:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that came out. We're trying to put us somewhere on the last day I think or near enough. Okay, that's been out for two three weeks now and we've been it's it's been great. How many hangs that we've been stuck in a little London bubble for a while, and so so we're really grateful for the people who are seeing us and hearing us. A lot of the time it's the same people. So to get the music out and heard in other strange and interesting places, it's really fun, Like you get messages from interesting places.

27:42 Speaker 1: So we're trying to get some airplay in places that we wouldn't normally go. The next song, we've got a few conversations like this booked in with places in Italy and Chile, and then we'd like to get maybe go out abroad somewhere and play.

28:00 Speaker 3: Well that's kind of a that's kind of an interesting advantage too. Where where you've you've got in terms of the members of the band, there's some diversity there in terms of where they're from originally, so it kind of gives you it kind of gives you an in uh in some places that you wouldn't otherwise have. So that's pretty cool.

28:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've we've had some some radio play in with indie blocks in Brazil and Argentina, Okay, but we haven't had any interviews or any proper conversations yet. Yeah, so we'd like to build some relationships with that. That's a big part of what we do. This is just meeting people with the same interests, who like the same things. You know. We want to make friends, yeah, and share those those joyful moments.

28:42 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, that's how you build a fan base. So no, I think you're I think you're on a great trajectory. Like I said, I listened to UH. I listened to a bunch of the songs, you know, because we did Mention band camp, So I was listening to Uh, obviously, I love nine Miles High. I was listening to some of the other tracks on band camp. The great thing about band camp too, is and because I mentioned this, every opportunity I get, because a lot of people don't realize this, you get a higher quality file on band camp than you do if you're just say you're just streaming it on YouTube or something like that.

29:10 Speaker 3: So I'm a big I'm a big proponent of band camp. I think that's the best place to listen to that to listen to music personally.

29:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tried, is it? Title?

29:22 Speaker 3: Tried title?

29:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was okay. And there's one I think called Coba's or quobas qob u z And it's really really noticeable that the leap in audio quality. I think there's a whole the whole generation of people now who have only ever used Spotify and YouTube, who've never had the chance to listen to Dark Side of the Moon or Sergeant Pepper on vinyl through nice speakers.

29:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they are, they are missing out. Nothing sounds better than vinyl. I love the warmth of vinyl. What so are are? Do you guys have any plans to release any physical media or is everything digital because I can tell you that here in the US, CDs not that they ever went away, but it seems like over the last five or six years have have sort of made a comeback in the sense that a lot of independent artists here really like to have physical media. But I've also noticed when I talk to artists from the UK, it seems a little different there.

30:14 Speaker 3: It seems like, uh like maybe you've all just kind of left that in the past. I don't know, though, I'm curious what your perspective is on that.

30:21 Speaker 1: I think I think people are naturally inclined to want artifacts that commemorate the things that they love. Yes, like I've I've got you, and I have got access to YouTube for free. We could listen to any song that's ever been released without spending a penny. But they've still got that drive in me to buy the latest vital by my favorite band. Yes, if I reissues and I find that people want people buy CDs from us, then they'll they'll never play them, They'll listen to us in other ways anyway. Right, I want to have something that shows that they've they've built that connection.

30:57 Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, we're starting to move into physical media. Excellent there's been a weird push for old style cassettes, you know, like the old Walkman where that's come from people. I think that just looks really cool when you put on a shelf. Yeah, might be that. I would love to get some vinyl going, but it's just it's just not realistic.

31:18 Speaker 3: It's very expensive.

31:20 Speaker 1: Yeah. There have you heard of Third Man Records?

31:24 Speaker 3: That sounds familiar to me. I'm not sure that.

31:26 Speaker 1: So Jack White, the white striped Jack White, Yeah, really really cool guy is pushing for greater accessibility for vinyl. Oh, okay, he's opened a he's got a store in Nashville, I know, but he's opened up another one in London, not far from where I'm sitting now. And at the back is a nineteen fifties straight to wax recording booth. Oh, you can go in and record records straight onto vinyl, but it's broken. They go in there once a week to see if they've had it repaired. I'm praying that by the end of this year I've.

32:01 Speaker 3: Got something on vinyl that's interesting.

32:03 Speaker 1: Yeah.

32:03 Speaker 3: Here in the US, it was either twenty two or twenty three was the first year, or maybe it was twenty four. It all becomes a blur. But the first year that vinyl actually outsold CDs for the first time since CDs became the you know, the primary medium for music. So yeah, love love the sound of vinyl, and people give me vinyl records sometimes. You know, some of the guests that we have on the show that are here in person, and you know, I don't. I don't even have a record player at home. We do have one here in the station.

32:32 Speaker 3: I don't have one at home, but it's just cool to have it, you know, and it looks good on the wall, and you know, love vinyl.

32:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean someone it might have been Warren Zevon was talking about books. He said that we buy books not necessarily to buy them, but because we feel richer having them around. And I think having vinyls is the same thing. I love that vinyls have also brought back a new found love for art and for cover art. Yes, it means people are displaying these things in our homes.

33:01 Speaker 3: That's a great point. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Well, Jim, in a moment, we're gonna we'll hit that track Ramona. This is another great song and I really like this a lot. But before we do that, and you know, we'll we'll let you go in a moment when we do that. But where is the best place to go? Where should people go online to keep up with everything that Howling Hawk is doing.

33:24 Speaker 1: We're we're most active on Instagram, but you can follow us wherever you like if you go to harling hawk dot com. Okay, we want to speak to me and say hello and maybe you'll send you a present, and just go to go to the Instagram.

33:36 Speaker 3: Okay, that's easy. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. It seems like Instagram is really becoming in terms of social media, kind of the main hub now for a lot of artists, which is which is interesting.

33:48 Speaker 1: It's amazing the people that you find on that. I was talking the other day to Gordon Raphael. You recorded the first two Strokes albums. Yeah, shutting away on Instagram. It's what Twitter should have been. Yeah, I love it.

34:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I like how you said that is what Twitter should have been. Yeah, that ship is saled. Well, very good, very good. Well, Jim listen, thank you so much for joining us today and we will definitely do this again in the future. I'd love to have you back because it sounds like you're gonna be if you're gonna be releasing a new single every month, then that's easy. We will definitely have you back, and we're happy to also kind of be your your conduit into the American radio market here because thank you so much.

34:33 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, because we really love what you're doing. Anything we should know about this song, Ramona, I think you said in the email, this is one of your favorites.

34:43 Speaker 1: It is. It's absolute nonsense. It's like John Lennon Stall Doggrel. I read about how David Bowie wrote some of his songs by just writing. He collected up newspapers and cut the lines out and then rearrange them like a like a weird jigsaw, and it it's just that.

35:00 Speaker 3: So okay.

35:01 Speaker 1: I like the idea that that sort of fate might lead it to a meaning for someone who's listening, but for us, it's just fun.

35:06 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, no, I like that. So we'll share this with everybody, and I'm gonna hit that track, but Jim, we will let you go. Jim from of course Howling Hawk. Thank you so much. And like I said, you know, bass players unite, and I really appreciate you joining us today and I look forward to the next time we get to speak.

35:26 Speaker 1: Thanks man, great talking.

35:28 Speaker 3: Absolutely Jim, all right, thank you, take care all right. That is Jim from the band Howling Hawk and from London. And let's give this a spin. This is another great track from them. This is called Ramona.

36:22 Speaker 6: Ready to go the mad through me.

36:27 Speaker 7: Feel like you.

36:28 Speaker 18: All in the.

36:32 Speaker 6: Sudden, the sky upstair.

36:38 Speaker 18: Gallows aside the.

37:04 Speaker 5: Imp walk in.

37:06 Speaker 14: The wild wild wood, just try or break the check,

37:14 Speaker 14: the Sada road on the tail tail out of the cold, the sort.

37:30 Speaker 7: You saw me a.

37:31 Speaker 6: Dream and that in suitabird spa.

37:35 Speaker 14: Break check, go away so I.

37:41 Speaker 7: Can't go back.

37:42 Speaker 15: Tell me.

37:45 Speaker 10: If I take you about, I can't put it together, your vacum and I.

37:53 Speaker 7: Could dream it forever.

37:55 Speaker 18: I could cut out inside in control of boever.

38:01 Speaker 7: His love is a cly the good had spoke time.

38:28 Speaker 7: So wait.

38:32 Speaker 5: To so be a dream that to the mod spile great shake through it the.

38:41 Speaker 7: Way back up my back.

38:45 Speaker 13: So wait, if i's.

38:48 Speaker 10: A gin a love, I can't put it together, Your fucking man enough.

38:55 Speaker 7: I could dream it forever.

38:58 Speaker 10: Doctor joins to control out the weather to fres A crowd.

39:06 Speaker 7: They could un spoken.

40:30 Speaker 16: Read in the fall, James, I've seen more outside the sap all of this was made when you love.

40:39 Speaker 18: Me, HESI called outside.

40:46 Speaker 6: With all the old things left behind. Nothing here is how it's used to be.

40:57 Speaker 18: Smoke and felg the sky.

41:01 Speaker 6: Jeuz, and please go b.

41:04 Speaker 16: Almost under feeding, always feeding, and you be cheat up, will.

41:14 Speaker 17: Take me up to make mistakes at you be.

41:22 Speaker 10: Above this place, said.

41:27 Speaker 17: Dreams, your feet out, dreams you get.

41:30 Speaker 7: To keep.

41:34 Speaker 22: Downside always as running from all the things I always have done.

41:58 Speaker 7: But all these hide well you stown.

42:06 Speaker 18: I'll be smiling.

42:07 Speaker 6: Yet is this the best that we can get it?

42:12 Speaker 1: How long does it.

42:13 Speaker 5: Take to turn this round?

42:19 Speaker 18: Smoke us down the scuy jus.

42:23 Speaker 6: Say, Queen's gonna buy.

42:26 Speaker 16: Almost under feeding it always feed in your benchet.

42:37 Speaker 7: Where chake me out to freak mistakes? Shout me be

42:48 Speaker 7: goove this.

42:49 Speaker 6: Case, week said.

42:53 Speaker 18: Change your feet out, dreams, you get.

42:56 Speaker 7: Ticky side.

43:03 Speaker 18: On the side, side shot on the side.

43:52 Speaker 6: Think I did it all again?

43:57 Speaker 23: I thought those messages were coming all the bread hand Where you begin?

44:03 Speaker 6: Where does this and this painful mess of memory?

44:08 Speaker 23: Let it get the best of me? Now you taking a mine, It's time taking all the space in my mite. You think that it bathes?

44:20 Speaker 17: Fine?

44:21 Speaker 6: If I head any mind food, I know what I gotta do.

44:32 Speaker 5: I'm not going bad to.

44:44 Speaker 6: The definition of its sanity. It's doing the same thing over and over again. That sounds like me. You throw your bits out at bread where I'm not sure what to do.

44:59 Speaker 23: I throw my hand ends up in the air because you take in a bin inside, take in all that space in my mind?

45:09 Speaker 6: Do you think that in bad? Fine? If my head handy mind a board, I don't know what I got a door.

45:23 Speaker 24: I'm not going bad, Julia, now in your fast and eating,

45:52 Speaker 24: except for the part you kept me waiting.

45:59 Speaker 6: Dot down.

46:02 Speaker 24: I'm sure that I'm still see you around, but I'm looking down.

46:09 Speaker 13: I'm not going.

46:14 Speaker 6: On that trip again.

46:17 Speaker 7: No, yeah, where.

46:32 Speaker 6: Whoa I am taking off? Bad time begin on broad space? Myn you think that it bes I'm like if that head.

46:53 Speaker 7: And you know boat.

46:58 Speaker 6: What I gotta do? Who I'm not going back. I'm not going back. I'm not going back to me.

47:53 Speaker 25: If the skies are gray when the day is night, I can't find my way.

47:59 Speaker 5: If the dams night as home.

48:02 Speaker 13: Lad you let me shine.

48:05 Speaker 17: Your flies part of me.

48:07 Speaker 21: I still don't the letther step we.

48:10 Speaker 1: Had that every night to turn up lies.

48:19 Speaker 25: All these chemies time.

48:24 Speaker 5: We don't all skin it right.

48:28 Speaker 7: Tall no, why you know, doll No? Why why shit chose me?

48:44 Speaker 6: Why sho't chose me?

49:04 Speaker 25: If you're far away, when the day is nine, I remain the same, just like black and why we should not assume just why.

49:15 Speaker 1: I mean to you a part of me.

49:18 Speaker 21: I still don't know her stand We hide in bed at me night, no need to turn up alive, always share it in my time.

49:35 Speaker 25: We don't always get it right.

49:39 Speaker 13: I just want to get it right.

49:43 Speaker 6: Why no, no, no, she up me.

50:00 Speaker 26: Stop specie.

50:24 Speaker 17: Speaking step.

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52:19 Speaker 5: But I'll be the biggest stitch tanta you've seen.

52:24 Speaker 13: You can't trust.

52:25 Speaker 6: Your eyes will tell you what you believe.

52:28 Speaker 1: That choice is something your girls shouldn't have.

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54:05 Speaker 6: Will follow you away.

54:08 Speaker 20: I can't listen somewhere outside my revery call me stream hysterical laughter. Now watching them offfoot democracy. God used to be optimistic that history would always stand asolutous hour.

54:33 Speaker 6: Out here at the setting of the sun.

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54:57 Speaker 6: It's a sort serrup read it so porting.

55:01 Speaker 20: You would all be all right if you just had told me I'm probably the greatest.

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