Matt Connarton Unleashed 2-21-26 hour 2

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0:06 Speaker 2: You're listening to Mattconnorton Unleashed on wmnh nwenty five point.

0:12 Speaker 3: Three right now the world radio premiere of the debut

0:16 Speaker 3: single from Moving On coming out February twenty seven. Absolutely,

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3:20 Speaker 8: nice it everybody.

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3:35 Speaker 11: how would arrested over?

3:39 Speaker 12: When Mats wakes up in the morning, he gets into

3:58 Speaker 12: the shower, into the top of his lungs, he sings.

4:04 Speaker 7: The mat, I do what I want because I can't.

4:09 Speaker 13: Get all right. Back to the radio show. Now all

4:14 Speaker 13: the best jammy.

4:29 Speaker 14: He's poison in the lead in the Lord, Lead in

4:37 Speaker 14: the Lord.

4:39 Speaker 13: If we believe news.

4:43 Speaker 15: Nine miles high, there's a cion sky.

4:49 Speaker 6: They see his side laid on b the view.

4:57 Speaker 10: Travelers nice, so please see the sun shine seems so fin.

5:07 Speaker 10: Bit say you say with me, just say be by

5:19 Speaker 10: my side?

5:44 Speaker 15: Seen morning and they see you in the dark.

5:50 Speaker 8: And y'all wait there if you say it up time.

5:58 Speaker 16: Nine miles half electric gets the night.

6:04 Speaker 6: Live anywhere and everywhere your.

6:11 Speaker 10: I try, but it's nice, so easy, the sun shine

6:19 Speaker 10: see you so fine? I say, you say with me,

6:30 Speaker 10: just say you'll.

6:32 Speaker 15: Speak by my side.

7:30 Speaker 7: That tribe.

7:31 Speaker 6: But it's not so easy. Sun shine seems.

7:38 Speaker 13: So fun me.

7:43 Speaker 17: I say, if you say.

7:47 Speaker 10: With me, just say with me by my side.

8:08 Speaker 3: I love that. That is nine miles High. The band

8:11 Speaker 3: is Howling Hawk, and uh, let's see who we have

8:14 Speaker 3: from the band on the line with us a via WhatsApp. Hello,

8:17 Speaker 3: welcome to the show. Hi, thanks for having me absolutely

8:22 Speaker 3: So who is this? Who do we have on the

8:23 Speaker 3: line with us?

8:24 Speaker 1: So this is Jim. I'm the singer, the bassist, and

8:27 Speaker 1: I write the chunes outstanding.

8:29 Speaker 3: I'm glad that you're a singing bassist because I am

8:31 Speaker 3: also a bass player. And uh, I don't feel that

8:34 Speaker 3: we get enough time out in front.

8:36 Speaker 1: You know, we're dying breed. You lead guitarist at ten

8:41 Speaker 1: a penny, but a good bass players worth his.

8:43 Speaker 3: Weight and exactly, I completely agree. And i love that

8:47 Speaker 3: track nine Miles High. And I'm really curious to ask

8:50 Speaker 3: you now, did you write the lyrics to that?

8:53 Speaker 1: Of course?

8:53 Speaker 3: Of course, all right, tell me about tell me about

8:55 Speaker 3: these lyrics because very very interesting and uh, I really

9:01 Speaker 3: want to dive into this. I'm excited to talk to

9:03 Speaker 3: you about the song.

9:05 Speaker 1: A friend of mine went through a phase where he

9:08 Speaker 1: spent a little bit too much time enjoying medicinal herbs

9:13 Speaker 1: and listening to his Twitter feed, and he began he

9:19 Speaker 1: was getting increasingly paranoid every time a helicopter went over

9:23 Speaker 1: here coming to look for him. Oh wow, you know,

9:26 Speaker 1: close to making Tim Foyle hats So there's about having

9:30 Speaker 1: a friend who's going down that dangerous rabbit hole and

9:33 Speaker 1: trying to pull him back from the brink. Yeah, that's

9:37 Speaker 1: the vibe. I don't know how much of that comes across,

9:40 Speaker 1: but that's what I was going for.

9:42 Speaker 18: Yeah.

9:42 Speaker 3: No, that's interesting because I think that that I don't know,

9:45 Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of feedback you've gotten on this,

9:47 Speaker 3: but to me, that seems highly relatable because I think,

9:52 Speaker 3: and I can tell you here in America, you know,

9:56 Speaker 3: there's there's a conspiracy theorism and all that stuff is rampant,

10:01 Speaker 3: and there are a lot of people who who there

10:04 Speaker 3: are a lot of people who don't need any any

10:07 Speaker 3: anything to help them get there. They just they just

10:10 Speaker 3: somehow managed to get there on their own. And it's frightening.

10:14 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people over here who have just

10:16 Speaker 1: been waiting for confirmation of a lot of what you

10:20 Speaker 1: It's it's so difficult now reading the news every single

10:23 Speaker 1: day and having these little nudges that maybe the conspiracy

10:27 Speaker 1: theories were true. I got all excited about eighteen months

10:31 Speaker 1: ago when there are a bunch of expressidents talking about aliens.

10:33 Speaker 1: That sounded kind of fun, but it's taking a bit

10:35 Speaker 1: of a dark turn. Sit then.

10:38 Speaker 3: It has it has, So I mean, what kind of

10:42 Speaker 3: feedback have you gotten on the song? Do you find

10:44 Speaker 3: that other people can also really kind of relate to this?

10:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, people seem to like it. It's a lot of

10:51 Speaker 1: what we play is very deliberately like nineties focused, big choruses, britpop,

10:57 Speaker 1: and this is the one where we've gone a little

10:59 Speaker 1: bit a little more X files. Yeah, and people seem

11:02 Speaker 1: to appreciate it, So maybe that will be a direction

11:07 Speaker 1: we've tried to do. We've got a release plan for

11:09 Speaker 1: this year. We've got to put a song out every month. Okay,

11:11 Speaker 1: so we've got our next single is out next Friday,

11:15 Speaker 1: which is a very different vibe. But I think for

11:17 Speaker 1: the next few after that we're going to go back

11:19 Speaker 1: to the back to the well for some weird stuff.

11:22 Speaker 3: Okay, Oh cool? What is that kind of your So

11:25 Speaker 3: you're going to be releasing a single every month? Is that?

11:27 Speaker 3: Is that the long term strategy? Are you going to do?

11:30 Speaker 3: You have any plans to do an EP or an album?

11:32 Speaker 3: You know? We we live in a time where there's

11:34 Speaker 3: so many different strategies for releasing music, so I'm curious

11:37 Speaker 3: or maybe these singles will eventually coalesce into an album

11:40 Speaker 3: or what one's kind of the long term strategy.

11:43 Speaker 1: Well, probably every now and again, collect stuff together into

11:46 Speaker 1: a into a whatever feels best, So like collect them

11:50 Speaker 1: together by vibe. Yeah, we've got a CD. We've got

11:53 Speaker 1: a CD with putting out Next Friday, which is the

11:55 Speaker 1: most recent three songs that we've recorded. Not that we

11:57 Speaker 1: plan to do them like that, but they just they

11:59 Speaker 1: fit quite together. We're doing one single a month because

12:05 Speaker 1: it's just so hard to get anything out and through

12:08 Speaker 1: the noise since we since we started playing together that

12:12 Speaker 1: there's been just this explosion of AI created dross. So

12:18 Speaker 1: it's apparently Spotify. I'm not a big fan of the

12:21 Speaker 1: fact that Spotify exists, but to be fair to them,

12:24 Speaker 1: if they're having to deal with one hundred and fifty

12:26 Speaker 1: thousand AI songs uploaded every day, oh yeah, it's how

12:31 Speaker 1: do you get through that? It's because of people like

12:32 Speaker 1: it's going to be people like you that help bands

12:35 Speaker 1: fight through the noise. So thank you for what you're doing.

12:37 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I appreciate that Yeah, you know, we're doing

12:41 Speaker 3: what we can. But we actually did a segment on

12:43 Speaker 3: that recently about Spotify and how how they've they've begun

12:47 Speaker 3: to delete a lot of AI generated music. Of course,

12:52 Speaker 3: the tricky thing there is too, I always say this,

12:56 Speaker 3: some people are going to get There are legitimate artists

12:58 Speaker 3: who are going to get caught in that as well.

13:01 Speaker 3: And that's a tricky thing too, because on one hand, Okay,

13:04 Speaker 3: you want to delete all this AI generated stuff, that's good.

13:07 Speaker 3: But at the same time, there are artists who maybe

13:11 Speaker 3: there's there's something in their music that flags gets the

13:15 Speaker 3: attention of the bot that is going through all this. Yeah,

13:19 Speaker 3: you know.

13:21 Speaker 1: And there are only so many beats that you can play, right,

13:25 Speaker 1: I think that the solution might I'm sure your listeners

13:28 Speaker 1: know of a noh band camp?

13:31 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh, I love band camp.

13:32 Speaker 1: Which is which is a great idea. The trouble with

13:35 Speaker 1: band camp, I think, is that ninety percent of the

13:36 Speaker 1: people use it a musician selling their own music. It

13:39 Speaker 1: hasn't really got like mainstream traction. If there was a

13:41 Speaker 1: way of pushing people towards that, or if Spotify could

13:44 Speaker 1: do a at a button to buy a song, if

13:48 Speaker 1: you like it enough for whatever pennies you know, yeah whatever,

13:52 Speaker 1: that'd be a game changer. But until then, it's just

13:57 Speaker 1: a case of trying to get your music in front

13:59 Speaker 1: of people however you can. I'm so grateful if you're

14:02 Speaker 1: playing these songs to people who otherwise I'd have no

14:05 Speaker 1: way of reaching. I'm so grateful.

14:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we're like I said, We're glad to do it.

14:09 Speaker 3: And I do love that song. I'm curious about you know,

14:13 Speaker 3: you mentioned britt Pop and what that song to me?

14:15 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a huge Oasis fan and you know,

14:19 Speaker 3: I job what's that?

14:22 Speaker 1: Good job?

14:23 Speaker 3: Thank you? Oh Morning Glory is one of my favorite

14:29 Speaker 3: albums ever. But or no, I'm sorry, I definitely maybe

14:32 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I'm curious about what other you know?

14:36 Speaker 3: Because you're in where where are you exactly? I'm not

14:38 Speaker 3: sure your exact location.

14:40 Speaker 1: I'm in London. You're in London was the center of

14:44 Speaker 1: the universe musically until not so long ago. Yeah, you

14:49 Speaker 1: go back a few years and you couldn't walk down

14:51 Speaker 1: the street without bumping into someone work. I mean, I

14:55 Speaker 1: talk about Oasis. I bumped into an old Gallagher in

14:58 Speaker 1: a supermarket here. Oh no, getting like just ambushed him

15:01 Speaker 1: while he was trying to buy his butter, and he

15:05 Speaker 1: was a lovely man. Lovely man, and he's very like that.

15:08 Speaker 1: That used to be pretty standard around here. Amy Winehouse

15:12 Speaker 1: brought me lunch at breakfast with Black Sabbath. I've got

15:17 Speaker 1: photo evidence of a lot of that.

15:19 Speaker 3: Wow.

15:20 Speaker 1: Now, it's just there's been such a what's the word,

15:25 Speaker 1: a fragmentation of that industry that it's just hard for

15:31 Speaker 1: any of those little ecosystems to sustain themselves. Sure, there's there,

15:36 Speaker 1: there are a couple of new bands getting through. There's

15:38 Speaker 1: a few. There's a band called Westside Cowboy that are

15:42 Speaker 1: breaking through that sound pretty good like a traditional guitar band.

15:46 Speaker 3: Interesting, so in terms of.

15:49 Speaker 1: Like, we we love the britpop thing because we what

15:53 Speaker 1: we really love is choruses. Man, people bands now seem

15:57 Speaker 1: to be sort of embarrassed about writing choruses. The look

16:00 Speaker 1: so moody. Why do you The guitar is meant to

16:05 Speaker 1: make you feel good? That's the point at the end,

16:07 Speaker 1: at the end of a gig. If if you've got

16:09 Speaker 1: a bunch of people who have only seen you for

16:10 Speaker 1: the first time, yeah, I don't think nine out of

16:13 Speaker 1: ten of them are going to walk away remembering your lyrics,

16:15 Speaker 1: but remember.

16:16 Speaker 3: Make them feel exactly.

16:19 Speaker 1: That's it man, aim for aim for the joy exactly.

16:22 Speaker 3: No, I agree, I agree. Is there is there like

16:24 Speaker 3: a pressure coming from there in terms of, you know,

16:29 Speaker 3: being being a band from from London? Well actually though,

16:33 Speaker 3: well interestingly, so you're in London, but not all the

16:35 Speaker 3: band members are correct.

16:37 Speaker 1: Oh they're all in London now they are?

16:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so we're we all live Oh good, okay, okay, so.

16:44 Speaker 1: Now we're a real like in person band. Oh good,

16:47 Speaker 1: and we yea and we so the guitarist one of them, Parlo.

16:52 Speaker 1: He's Italian, as you can guess from Yeah, Gonzalo is

16:55 Speaker 1: Gonzalo is Chilean.

16:58 Speaker 3: Oh okay.

17:00 Speaker 1: But all we came together with the It was all

17:02 Speaker 1: we found each other online and came together for the

17:05 Speaker 1: love of the same music.

17:06 Speaker 3: Yeah.

17:07 Speaker 1: I mean you can tell what music we like from

17:09 Speaker 1: listening to ourselves. We're on ours leaves.

17:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, So is there a pressure like being a

17:15 Speaker 3: London band in terms of just I mean, you mentioned

17:18 Speaker 3: trying to cut through the noise. There's that part, but

17:20 Speaker 3: is there also this thing where, like you said, you know,

17:23 Speaker 3: it used to be if it's not still or one

17:27 Speaker 3: of the centers of of the of the musical universe.

17:30 Speaker 3: Like do people expect you as a band from London

17:32 Speaker 3: to is there a certain expectation there or or a

17:36 Speaker 3: certain expectation in terms of your sound or I really can't.

17:40 Speaker 1: I mean we're just so blessed to be from London. Yeah,

17:43 Speaker 1: it just carries a certain a certain weight I think.

17:47 Speaker 1: Like this is the venue that we're playing next Saturday

17:49 Speaker 1: is called the Troubadour. Oh yes, any I mean that's

17:53 Speaker 1: it's the last surviving sixties venue. We'll be playing on

17:56 Speaker 1: the same stage that who Jimmy Hendrix, Rolling Stones used

17:59 Speaker 1: to play on, And that's the It's just an ordinary venue.

18:03 Speaker 1: It's not like a museum. So yeah, we're really spoilt

18:06 Speaker 1: like that, and just the I mean I half joke

18:10 Speaker 1: about bumping into people, but you really can find amazing people.

18:13 Speaker 1: The guy that the song you just played was recorded

18:17 Speaker 1: for as by a guy called Paul Tipler, who was

18:19 Speaker 1: a lovely man and he runs a little studio in London.

18:24 Speaker 1: He charges next to nothing for it and he's put out.

18:27 Speaker 1: He's produced Doctor Feel Good. He did the first recordings

18:31 Speaker 1: by Placebo. Like he's there are just these people around,

18:36 Speaker 1: like there's a really nice I've never met anyone who

18:40 Speaker 1: wants to do anyone down in music. I haven't everyone

18:42 Speaker 1: everyone's been lovely.

18:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that might be.

18:45 Speaker 1: I do love London, but there is something magic about

18:47 Speaker 1: it now.

18:48 Speaker 6: Is it?

18:48 Speaker 3: Unit thirteen? Is that where you recorded that?

18:51 Speaker 19: It is?

18:51 Speaker 1: Yeah?

18:52 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, great, great sound. You know obviously it came

18:56 Speaker 3: out really well. Have you recorded the previous singles that

18:59 Speaker 3: you've released or are releasing? Are those all recorded there

19:02 Speaker 3: as well?

19:03 Speaker 1: So we did a song called The Downside that came

19:06 Speaker 1: out I think earlier this year with him and the

19:08 Speaker 1: next the next song, Delilah, is that next Friday. I'll

19:11 Speaker 1: send it to you after after this chat to enjoy

19:13 Speaker 1: a few if you're interested.

19:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, what what what song is it?

19:18 Speaker 1: It's called Delilah?

19:19 Speaker 3: Oh, Delilah? Okay, okay, and I do have you also

19:22 Speaker 3: sent us Ramona, which I'm going to play at the

19:23 Speaker 3: end of our our conversation. That's a great song too.

19:27 Speaker 3: I really like that.

19:28 Speaker 1: A lot that was that was produced by a friend

19:31 Speaker 1: of ours called Cucko, who runs Damon Albarn's studio, which

19:36 Speaker 1: is also called thirteen Studios.

19:39 Speaker 3: I guess it's amazing.

19:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's there's a magic there, right.

19:45 Speaker 3: Oh, that's excellent. So in terms of writing, you know,

19:49 Speaker 3: obviously you mentioned Nine Miles High. You wrote the lyrics.

19:52 Speaker 3: I assume did you also write the music to that.

19:55 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I tend to come in with just really

19:59 Speaker 1: basic towards and a melody and but my voice won't change.

20:04 Speaker 1: But I tried to give the rest of the band

20:05 Speaker 1: as much space as they as they want to develop it.

20:08 Speaker 3: Has it been that way from the beginning with this project.

20:11 Speaker 20: Yeah?

20:11 Speaker 1: Absolutely. It means to feel that I don't want it

20:13 Speaker 1: to be me and my session band. It has to

20:15 Speaker 1: be those guys expressing themselves. It's a nice Arctic Monkeys

20:19 Speaker 1: style riffing that the Power came up with.

20:22 Speaker 3: Oh okay, you're right, No, that's yeah, that's cool. And

20:25 Speaker 3: then I assume what's the live situation, like, are you

20:29 Speaker 3: doing a lot of shows? You you know, you did

20:30 Speaker 3: mention the show at the Troubadour coming up. If you've

20:32 Speaker 3: been playing a lot, because I can imagine I would

20:34 Speaker 3: assume that in London there's a lot of places to play,

20:37 Speaker 3: or maybe not, I'm assuming, but.

20:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are loads of venues. But the audiences for

20:43 Speaker 1: live bands aren't quite what they used to be. I'm

20:45 Speaker 1: from Camden, which is I mean, it was the musical hub,

20:51 Speaker 1: but so many of those venues are closed down now

20:55 Speaker 1: just because the constant tax and business rates keep keep

21:00 Speaker 1: going up, which pushes some good people out of business.

21:02 Speaker 3: Right.

21:03 Speaker 1: But that said, that said, there are some growing scenes.

21:05 Speaker 1: There's some wonderful people here. There's Debbe from Cooper Concepts

21:08 Speaker 1: who's built a fantastic little scene over in West London.

21:12 Speaker 1: There's a new friend of ours called Johnny. I only

21:15 Speaker 1: know him as Johnny Middleman. He's a bit secretive. He's

21:19 Speaker 1: he's putting on the gig at the Trouper Door as

21:21 Speaker 1: part of what he's trying to develop into a gig

21:25 Speaker 1: cooperative with the London were a London band and there

21:28 Speaker 1: are three other bands from other major English cities. So

21:32 Speaker 1: they're going to come down and see us and then

21:34 Speaker 1: soon we'll go up and play their places. Because that's,

21:36 Speaker 1: as I say, being from London, we're so blessed that

21:39 Speaker 1: it's easy for us to get gigs in London. Yeah

21:42 Speaker 1: we can, just you know, you get a bus there,

21:44 Speaker 1: it's not hard. But if you've got to come down

21:45 Speaker 1: from Manchester or Liverpool. That's that's a.

21:47 Speaker 3: Big investment right right now. That's that's excellent. Are are

21:51 Speaker 3: you playing like pretty consistently or what's what's the what's

21:55 Speaker 3: the schedule?

21:56 Speaker 1: As much as we can, we've got to we play

21:59 Speaker 1: a lot to each other. We've got to shared that

22:01 Speaker 1: we're always playing it. Yeah, but in terms of like

22:06 Speaker 1: we're trying to play one London Giga month and then

22:08 Speaker 1: get out of London to play other places.

22:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really curious what the name Howling Hawk means.

22:16 Speaker 3: I'm sure you get this question all the time, but uh,

22:20 Speaker 3: I like the name, but I'm curious what it means.

22:22 Speaker 1: It's just Howling Wolf was taken. That's about it one

22:27 Speaker 1: time ago.

22:28 Speaker 3: Yeah.

22:28 Speaker 1: I think that the best, the best rock and roll

22:32 Speaker 1: band name ever is the Rolling Stones for me, okay,

22:36 Speaker 1: And we were trying to come up with something in

22:37 Speaker 1: the same bluesy vein and just something about that. Howling

22:40 Speaker 1: stuck and we went through it to try and find

22:44 Speaker 1: you've got Arctic monkeys. We didn't want it to be

22:46 Speaker 1: ridiculous like hawling penguin. Certain edge to it.

22:50 Speaker 3: No, I like it. I like it. Did you did

22:52 Speaker 3: the name come easily or did you have to go

22:54 Speaker 3: through some to find one that you agree on?

22:57 Speaker 1: God? No, I've had so many, so many, terror all

23:00 Speaker 1: terrible names.

23:01 Speaker 3: Okay, I love I love hearing about rejected band names.

23:04 Speaker 3: Give me, give me what you got. I love this.

23:07 Speaker 1: The lema was floated around for a while, really, as

23:12 Speaker 1: in the monkey, the little furry thing, that something exotic

23:17 Speaker 1: and cool?

23:18 Speaker 3: What was it gonna be? Howleen lemur or just uh

23:21 Speaker 3: see if.

23:21 Speaker 1: We'd have had you? We we went through a phase

23:30 Speaker 1: of just adding colors, two different nouns as well, Okay, red,

23:37 Speaker 1: the red seven, you know, the blue whatever the blue.

23:44 Speaker 1: But yeah, harling Hawk has done quite well. It looks

23:47 Speaker 1: pretty good on a T shirt as well.

23:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. No, it's a cool name.

23:50 Speaker 3: Although the red seven is kind of cool. I wonder,

23:53 Speaker 3: I wonder if anyone else has taken that. I do

23:57 Speaker 3: like that, But I think, excuse me, I think, no,

24:00 Speaker 3: Hawlleen Hawk is a great name. And what how long

24:03 Speaker 3: has this project existed?

24:05 Speaker 6: When?

24:06 Speaker 3: When? When? Roughly did you start this?

24:09 Speaker 21: Well?

24:09 Speaker 1: I met the guitarist Reese, the guitarist Gunzalo and Parlo

24:16 Speaker 1: about two years back. Okay, and we've had a series

24:19 Speaker 1: of different drummers for different reasons too. We met We

24:22 Speaker 1: met Reese in about the summer of last year. Okay,

24:26 Speaker 1: so probably since then. This feels like the band at

24:29 Speaker 1: the moment.

24:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is a relatively new project then in

24:33 Speaker 3: the grand scheme of things.

24:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so if everything's we're still learning how to

24:38 Speaker 1: do everything really.

24:40 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's interesting too that you mentioned about drummers. It

24:43 Speaker 3: sounds like you've been through a few. I don't know

24:45 Speaker 3: if it's the same there, but I can tell you

24:48 Speaker 3: here every drummer I know is in just multiple projects

24:52 Speaker 3: because there's only you know, we we talked at the

24:54 Speaker 3: beginning about how bass players are, you know, harder to find.

24:58 Speaker 3: Drummers are like impossible.

25:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I only played the bass because I

25:03 Speaker 1: couldn't find a bassis. So yeah, I've got two guitarists

25:06 Speaker 1: and bought bass instead. But this this drummer, now, Reese,

25:10 Speaker 1: aside from being a talented drummer, he sings as well. Yeah,

25:14 Speaker 1: so it's been leaning into that to try and build

25:16 Speaker 1: up that Lennon and McCartney vocal vibe.

25:19 Speaker 18: Right.

25:19 Speaker 1: It's ridiculously arrogant, isn't it. How can he jump from

25:23 Speaker 1: he jumped to Lennon and McCartney. Yeah, yeah, far more,

25:28 Speaker 1: far more average than Lenna McCartney. But we're going to

25:30 Speaker 1: have multiple voices from now so that should be fun.

25:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think that's excellent. So so the show

25:36 Speaker 3: at the Troubadour is on the twenty eighth, so that's

25:39 Speaker 3: a big deal. Who do you want to mention? Who

25:41 Speaker 3: else is on that show with you? You guys are

25:43 Speaker 3: the headliners? Correct, Yeah, we are, and.

25:46 Speaker 1: They're they're only I think a few. It's like a

25:49 Speaker 1: handful of tickets left now, which is really eating because

25:53 Speaker 1: it's being filmed and recorded as well. Excellent to put

26:00 Speaker 1: out live at the Troubadour EP later in the year.

26:03 Speaker 3: Oh, very cool.

26:05 Speaker 1: So the other bands we've got, uh is a band

26:08 Speaker 1: called and the Mama's Boys.

26:10 Speaker 3: Okay, that's fantastic.

26:17 Speaker 1: There's a band called black Manas okay, well, and they're

26:22 Speaker 1: they're really good. Some of their stuff sounds a bit

26:24 Speaker 1: like they're from Manchester, so if you imagine LCD sound

26:27 Speaker 1: system but with a thick Manchester.

26:30 Speaker 3: Accent, okay, okay, interesting.

26:32 Speaker 1: And there's another band called Brides who are really cool okay,

26:38 Speaker 1: and they'll be grateful for that. Shout out.

26:39 Speaker 3: So yeah, no doubt, no doubt, that's great. And then

26:42 Speaker 3: so what's what's the next thing after that? Because I know, well, well,

26:48 Speaker 3: actually let me ask it this way. When does the

26:50 Speaker 3: or maybe it's already started. You said, you know you

26:52 Speaker 3: guys are going to do one single a month, So

26:55 Speaker 3: is that is that cycle already begun? As far as

26:58 Speaker 3: I know, nine Miles High is new?

27:01 Speaker 18: Right?

27:01 Speaker 3: What is that about this month or last month?

27:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that came out. We're trying to put us

27:06 Speaker 1: somewhere on the last day I think or near enough. Okay,

27:10 Speaker 1: that's been out for two three weeks now and we've

27:15 Speaker 1: been it's it's been great. How many hangs that we've

27:23 Speaker 1: been stuck in a little London bubble for a while,

27:27 Speaker 1: and so so we're really grateful for the people who

27:30 Speaker 1: are seeing us and hearing us. A lot of the

27:31 Speaker 1: time it's the same people. So to get the music

27:34 Speaker 1: out and heard in other strange and interesting places, it's

27:38 Speaker 1: really fun, Like you get messages from interesting places. So

27:42 Speaker 1: we're trying to get some airplay in places that we

27:48 Speaker 1: wouldn't normally go. The next song, we've got a few

27:51 Speaker 1: conversations like this booked in with places in Italy and Chile,

27:57 Speaker 1: and then we'd like to get maybe go out abroad

27:59 Speaker 1: somewhere and play.

28:00 Speaker 3: Well that's kind of a that's kind of an interesting

28:02 Speaker 3: advantage too. Where where you've you've got in terms of

28:05 Speaker 3: the members of the band, there's some diversity there in

28:09 Speaker 3: terms of where they're from originally, so it kind of

28:11 Speaker 3: gives you it kind of gives you an in uh

28:14 Speaker 3: in some places that you wouldn't otherwise have. So that's

28:17 Speaker 3: pretty cool.

28:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've we've had some some radio play in with

28:23 Speaker 1: indie blocks in Brazil and Argentina, Okay, but we haven't

28:27 Speaker 1: had any interviews or any proper conversations yet. Yeah, so

28:31 Speaker 1: we'd like to build some relationships with that. That's a

28:33 Speaker 1: big part of what we do. This is just meeting

28:35 Speaker 1: people with the same interests, who like the same things.

28:37 Speaker 1: You know. We want to make friends, yeah, and share

28:40 Speaker 1: those those joyful moments.

28:42 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, that's how you build a fan base.

28:44 Speaker 3: So no, I think you're I think you're on a

28:46 Speaker 3: great trajectory. Like I said, I listened to UH. I

28:48 Speaker 3: listened to a bunch of the songs, you know, because

28:50 Speaker 3: we did Mention band camp, So I was listening to Uh, obviously,

28:54 Speaker 3: I love nine Miles High. I was listening to some

28:55 Speaker 3: of the other tracks on band camp. The great thing

28:57 Speaker 3: about band camp too, is and because I mentioned this,

29:01 Speaker 3: every opportunity I get, because a lot of people don't

29:03 Speaker 3: realize this, you get a higher quality file on band

29:06 Speaker 3: camp than you do if you're just say you're just

29:08 Speaker 3: streaming it on YouTube or something like that. So I'm

29:10 Speaker 3: a big I'm a big proponent of band camp. I

29:13 Speaker 3: think that's the best place to listen to that to

29:16 Speaker 3: listen to music personally.

29:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tried, is it? Title?

29:22 Speaker 3: Tried title?

29:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was okay. And there's one I think called

29:25 Speaker 1: Coba's or quobas qob u z And it's really really

29:30 Speaker 1: noticeable that the leap in audio quality. I think there's

29:32 Speaker 1: a whole the whole generation of people now who have

29:34 Speaker 1: only ever used Spotify and YouTube, who've never had the

29:36 Speaker 1: chance to listen to Dark Side of the Moon or

29:39 Speaker 1: Sergeant Pepper on vinyl through nice speakers.

29:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they are, they are missing out. Nothing sounds

29:45 Speaker 3: better than vinyl. I love the warmth of vinyl. What

29:49 Speaker 3: so are are? Do you guys have any plans to

29:51 Speaker 3: release any physical media or is everything digital because I

29:54 Speaker 3: can tell you that here in the US, CDs not

29:58 Speaker 3: that they ever went away, but it seems like over

30:01 Speaker 3: the last five or six years have have sort of

30:03 Speaker 3: made a comeback in the sense that a lot of

30:06 Speaker 3: independent artists here really like to have physical media. But

30:09 Speaker 3: I've also noticed when I talk to artists from the UK,

30:12 Speaker 3: it seems a little different there. It seems like, uh

30:15 Speaker 3: like maybe you've all just kind of left that in

30:16 Speaker 3: the past. I don't know, though, I'm curious what your

30:19 Speaker 3: perspective is on that.

30:21 Speaker 1: I think I think people are naturally inclined to want

30:27 Speaker 1: artifacts that commemorate the things that they love. Yes, like

30:31 Speaker 1: I've I've got you, and I have got access to

30:34 Speaker 1: YouTube for free. We could listen to any song that's

30:38 Speaker 1: ever been released without spending a penny. But they've still

30:41 Speaker 1: got that drive in me to buy the latest vital

30:43 Speaker 1: by my favorite band. Yes, if I reissues and I

30:46 Speaker 1: find that people want people buy CDs from us, then

30:50 Speaker 1: they'll they'll never play them, They'll listen to us in

30:53 Speaker 1: other ways anyway. Right, I want to have something that

30:55 Speaker 1: shows that they've they've built that connection. So yeah, absolutely,

30:58 Speaker 1: we're starting to move into physical media. Excellent there's been

31:02 Speaker 1: a weird push for old style cassettes, you know, like

31:05 Speaker 1: the old Walkman where that's come from people. I think

31:09 Speaker 1: that just looks really cool when you put on a shelf. Yeah,

31:12 Speaker 1: might be that. I would love to get some vinyl going,

31:15 Speaker 1: but it's just it's just not realistic.

31:18 Speaker 3: It's very expensive.

31:20 Speaker 1: Yeah. There have you heard of Third Man Records?

31:24 Speaker 3: That sounds familiar to me. I'm not sure that.

31:26 Speaker 1: So Jack White, the white striped Jack White, Yeah, really

31:29 Speaker 1: really cool guy is pushing for greater accessibility for vinyl. Oh, okay,

31:34 Speaker 1: he's opened a he's got a store in Nashville, I know,

31:39 Speaker 1: but he's opened up another one in London, not far

31:41 Speaker 1: from where I'm sitting now. And at the back is

31:43 Speaker 1: a nineteen fifties straight to wax recording booth. Oh, you

31:48 Speaker 1: can go in and record records straight onto vinyl, but

31:51 Speaker 1: it's broken. They go in there once a week to

31:55 Speaker 1: see if they've had it repaired. I'm praying that by

32:00 Speaker 1: the end of this year I've.

32:01 Speaker 3: Got something on vinyl that's interesting.

32:03 Speaker 1: Yeah.

32:03 Speaker 3: Here in the US, it was either twenty two or

32:06 Speaker 3: twenty three was the first year, or maybe it was

32:08 Speaker 3: twenty four. It all becomes a blur. But the first

32:11 Speaker 3: year that vinyl actually outsold CDs for the first time

32:16 Speaker 3: since CDs became the you know, the primary medium for music.

32:21 Speaker 3: So yeah, love love the sound of vinyl, and people

32:24 Speaker 3: give me vinyl records sometimes. You know, some of the

32:26 Speaker 3: guests that we have on the show that are here

32:27 Speaker 3: in person, and you know, I don't. I don't even

32:29 Speaker 3: have a record player at home. We do have one

32:31 Speaker 3: here in the station. I don't have one at home,

32:33 Speaker 3: but it's just cool to have it, you know, and

32:34 Speaker 3: it looks good on the wall, and you know, love vinyl.

32:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean someone it might have been

32:41 Speaker 1: Warren Zevon was talking about books. He said that we

32:45 Speaker 1: buy books not necessarily to buy them, but because we

32:47 Speaker 1: feel richer having them around. And I think having vinyls

32:51 Speaker 1: is the same thing. I love that vinyls have also

32:53 Speaker 1: brought back a new found love for art and for

32:56 Speaker 1: cover art. Yes, it means people are displaying these things

32:59 Speaker 1: in our homes.

33:01 Speaker 3: That's a great point. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Well, Jim, in

33:06 Speaker 3: a moment, we're gonna we'll hit that track Ramona. This

33:10 Speaker 3: is another great song and I really like this a lot.

33:13 Speaker 3: But before we do that, and you know, we'll we'll

33:15 Speaker 3: let you go in a moment when we do that.

33:17 Speaker 3: But where is the best place to go? Where should

33:20 Speaker 3: people go online to keep up with everything that Howling

33:22 Speaker 3: Hawk is doing.

33:24 Speaker 1: We're we're most active on Instagram, but you can follow

33:27 Speaker 1: us wherever you like if you go to harling hawk

33:29 Speaker 1: dot com. Okay, we want to speak to me and

33:31 Speaker 1: say hello and maybe you'll send you a present, and

33:33 Speaker 1: just go to go to the Instagram.

33:36 Speaker 3: Okay, that's easy. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. It seems like Instagram

33:40 Speaker 3: is really becoming in terms of social media, kind of

33:42 Speaker 3: the main hub now for a lot of artists, which

33:46 Speaker 3: is which is interesting.

33:48 Speaker 1: It's amazing the people that you find on that. I

33:50 Speaker 1: was talking the other day to Gordon Raphael. You recorded

33:55 Speaker 1: the first two Strokes albums. Yeah, shutting away on Instagram.

33:59 Speaker 1: It's what Twitter should have been. Yeah, I love it.

34:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I like how you said that is what

34:07 Speaker 3: Twitter should have been. Yeah, that ship is saled. Well,

34:14 Speaker 3: very good, very good. Well, Jim listen, thank you so

34:17 Speaker 3: much for joining us today and we will definitely do

34:19 Speaker 3: this again in the future. I'd love to have you

34:20 Speaker 3: back because it sounds like you're gonna be if you're

34:22 Speaker 3: gonna be releasing a new single every month, then that's easy.

34:25 Speaker 3: We will definitely have you back, and we're happy to

34:28 Speaker 3: also kind of be your your conduit into the American

34:30 Speaker 3: radio market here because thank you so much. Absolutely absolutely,

34:34 Speaker 3: because we really love what you're doing. Anything we should

34:37 Speaker 3: know about this song, Ramona, I think you said in

34:39 Speaker 3: the email, this is one of your favorites.

34:43 Speaker 1: It is. It's absolute nonsense. It's like John Lennon Stall Doggrel.

34:49 Speaker 1: I read about how David Bowie wrote some of his

34:51 Speaker 1: songs by just writing. He collected up newspapers and cut

34:55 Speaker 1: the lines out and then rearrange them like a like

34:58 Speaker 1: a weird jigsaw, and it it's just that.

35:00 Speaker 3: So okay.

35:01 Speaker 1: I like the idea that that sort of fate might

35:03 Speaker 1: lead it to a meaning for someone who's listening, but

35:05 Speaker 1: for us, it's just fun.

35:06 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, no, I like that. So we'll share this

35:10 Speaker 3: with everybody, and I'm gonna hit that track, but Jim,

35:12 Speaker 3: we will let you go. Jim from of course Howling Hawk.

35:15 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. And like I said, you know,

35:17 Speaker 3: bass players unite, and I really appreciate you joining us

35:23 Speaker 3: today and I look forward to the next time we

35:25 Speaker 3: get to speak.

35:26 Speaker 1: Thanks man, great talking.

35:28 Speaker 3: Absolutely Jim, all right, thank you, take care all right.

35:32 Speaker 3: That is Jim from the band Howling Hawk and from London.

35:36 Speaker 3: And let's give this a spin. This is another great

35:38 Speaker 3: track from them. This is called Ramona.

36:22 Speaker 6: Ready to go the mad through me.

36:27 Speaker 7: Feel like you.

36:28 Speaker 18: All in the.

36:32 Speaker 6: Sudden, the sky upstair.

36:38 Speaker 18: Gallows aside the.

37:04 Speaker 5: Imp walk in.

37:06 Speaker 14: The wild wild wood, just try or break the check,

37:14 Speaker 14: the Sada road on the tail tail out of the cold,

37:25 Speaker 14: the sort.

37:30 Speaker 7: You saw me a.

37:31 Speaker 6: Dream and that in suitabird spa.

37:35 Speaker 14: Break check, go away so I.

37:41 Speaker 7: Can't go back.

37:42 Speaker 15: Tell me.

37:45 Speaker 10: If I take you about, I can't put it together,

37:50 Speaker 10: your vacum and I.

37:53 Speaker 7: Could dream it forever.

37:55 Speaker 18: I could cut out inside in control of boever.

38:01 Speaker 7: His love is a cly the good had spoke time.

38:28 Speaker 7: So wait.

38:32 Speaker 5: To so be a dream that to the mod spile

38:38 Speaker 5: great shake through it the.

38:41 Speaker 7: Way back up my back.

38:45 Speaker 13: So wait, if i's.

38:48 Speaker 10: A gin a love, I can't put it together, Your

38:53 Speaker 10: fucking man enough.

38:55 Speaker 7: I could dream it forever.

38:58 Speaker 10: Doctor joins to control out the weather to fres A crowd.

39:06 Speaker 7: They could un spoken.

40:30 Speaker 16: Read in the fall, James, I've seen more outside the

40:35 Speaker 16: sap all of this was made when you love.

40:39 Speaker 18: Me, HESI called outside.

40:46 Speaker 6: With all the old things left behind. Nothing here is

40:51 Speaker 6: how it's used to be.

40:57 Speaker 18: Smoke and felg the sky.

41:01 Speaker 6: Jeuz, and please go b.

41:04 Speaker 16: Almost under feeding, always feeding, and you be cheat up, will.

41:14 Speaker 17: Take me up to make mistakes at you be.

41:22 Speaker 10: Above this place, said.

41:27 Speaker 17: Dreams, your feet out, dreams you get.

41:30 Speaker 7: To keep.

41:34 Speaker 22: Downside always as running from all the things I always

41:57 Speaker 22: have done.

41:58 Speaker 7: But all these hide well you stown.

42:06 Speaker 18: I'll be smiling.

42:07 Speaker 6: Yet is this the best that we can get it?

42:12 Speaker 1: How long does it.

42:13 Speaker 5: Take to turn this round?

42:19 Speaker 18: Smoke us down the scuy jus.

42:23 Speaker 6: Say, Queen's gonna buy.

42:26 Speaker 16: Almost under feeding it always feed in your benchet.

42:37 Speaker 7: Where chake me out to freak mistakes? Shout me be

42:48 Speaker 7: goove this.

42:49 Speaker 6: Case, week said.

42:53 Speaker 18: Change your feet out, dreams, you get.

42:56 Speaker 7: Ticky side.

43:03 Speaker 18: On the side, side shot on the side.

43:52 Speaker 6: Think I did it all again?

43:57 Speaker 23: I thought those messages were coming all the bread hand

44:02 Speaker 23: Where you begin?

44:03 Speaker 6: Where does this and this painful mess of memory?

44:08 Speaker 23: Let it get the best of me? Now you taking

44:13 Speaker 23: a mine, It's time taking all the space in my mite.

44:19 Speaker 23: You think that it bathes?

44:20 Speaker 17: Fine?

44:21 Speaker 6: If I head any mind food, I know what I

44:29 Speaker 6: gotta do.

44:32 Speaker 5: I'm not going bad to.

44:44 Speaker 6: The definition of its sanity. It's doing the same thing

44:49 Speaker 6: over and over again. That sounds like me. You throw

44:53 Speaker 6: your bits out at bread where I'm not sure what

44:58 Speaker 6: to do.

44:59 Speaker 23: I throw my hand ends up in the air because

45:01 Speaker 23: you take in a bin inside, take in all that

45:06 Speaker 23: space in my mind?

45:09 Speaker 6: Do you think that in bad? Fine? If my head

45:13 Speaker 6: handy mind a board, I don't know what I got

45:19 Speaker 6: a door.

45:23 Speaker 24: I'm not going bad, Julia, now in your fast and eating,

45:52 Speaker 24: except for the part you kept me waiting.

45:59 Speaker 6: Dot down.

46:02 Speaker 24: I'm sure that I'm still see you around, but I'm

46:07 Speaker 24: looking down.

46:09 Speaker 13: I'm not going.

46:14 Speaker 6: On that trip again.

46:17 Speaker 7: No, yeah, where.

46:32 Speaker 6: Whoa I am taking off? Bad time begin on broad space?

46:48 Speaker 6: Myn you think that it bes I'm like if that head.

46:53 Speaker 7: And you know boat.

46:58 Speaker 6: What I gotta do? Who I'm not going back. I'm

47:05 Speaker 6: not going back. I'm not going back to me.

47:53 Speaker 25: If the skies are gray when the day is night,

47:57 Speaker 25: I can't find my way.

47:59 Speaker 5: If the dams night as home.

48:02 Speaker 13: Lad you let me shine.

48:05 Speaker 17: Your flies part of me.

48:07 Speaker 21: I still don't the letther step we.

48:10 Speaker 1: Had that every night to turn up lies.

48:19 Speaker 25: All these chemies time.

48:24 Speaker 5: We don't all skin it right.

48:28 Speaker 7: Tall no, why you know, doll No? Why why shit

48:40 Speaker 7: chose me?

48:44 Speaker 6: Why sho't chose me?

49:04 Speaker 25: If you're far away, when the day is nine, I

49:08 Speaker 25: remain the same, just like black and why we should

49:13 Speaker 25: not assume just why.

49:15 Speaker 1: I mean to you a part of me.

49:18 Speaker 21: I still don't know her stand We hide in bed

49:22 Speaker 21: at me night, no need to turn up alive, always

49:31 Speaker 21: share it in my time.

49:35 Speaker 25: We don't always get it right.

49:39 Speaker 13: I just want to get it right.

49:43 Speaker 6: Why no, no, no, she up me.

50:00 Speaker 26: Stop specie.

50:24 Speaker 17: Speaking step.

51:55 Speaker 2: You are listening to Matt Connerton unleashed w A H

52:00 Speaker 2: ninety five point three.

52:19 Speaker 5: But I'll be the biggest stitch tanta you've seen.

52:24 Speaker 13: You can't trust.

52:25 Speaker 6: Your eyes will tell you what you believe.

52:28 Speaker 1: That choice is something your girls shouldn't have.

52:32 Speaker 20: But a few time will play and we'll tell you

52:35 Speaker 20: where sat what I'm watching you all rage against the machine.

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52:44 Speaker 20: We'll connapt On Levin because the press can't be free.

52:49 Speaker 20: American boss anywhere away face high can made this Somewheresa

53:00 Speaker 20: my very todd thief stream hysterical collaughter, watching them fall

53:07 Speaker 20: with democracy used to be optimistic that history would away

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54:03 Speaker 20: and if you can't, God help, it.

54:05 Speaker 6: Will follow you away.

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54:57 Speaker 6: It's a sort serrup read it so porting.

55:01 Speaker 20: You would all be all right if you just had

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