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4:04 Speaker 7: Next b that was the American radio premiere a WMNH

4:24 Speaker 7: exclusive of the new track from Elijah Jenkins that is

4:27 Speaker 7: called stay Tonight. And we will have him on the

4:30 Speaker 7: show soon. He is a UK artist making a big

4:33 Speaker 7: impact over there. But that is the first time that

4:35 Speaker 7: track has ever been played on American radio. Here on

4:38 Speaker 7: Matt connorton Unleashed. That is stay Tonight by Elijah Jenkins.

4:42 Speaker 7: And right now we're going to play a track from

4:45 Speaker 7: our friends Iron Jaw, a great metal band from Texas

4:49 Speaker 7: who are gonna be joining us momentarily from Texas Hope

4:52 Speaker 7: in fact that's them. We're gonna bring them on in

4:54 Speaker 7: a moment. But check this out. This is Sands of

4:56 Speaker 7: Time from their newest album Cursed.

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6:12 Speaker 3: Turning at it ain't a gether you hurry to or taken,

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6:25 Speaker 6: That there wasna the grandest died there said it's.

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7:03 Speaker 8: It's selling right at you.

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7:57 Speaker 6: So I eat no become not a ray up spensive

8:03 Speaker 6: black sign.

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8:09 Speaker 6: Right, my gods reb do.

8:15 Speaker 8: Work up doors right on the ring illo next time,

8:21 Speaker 8: my bag bird you rapping that time ups out.

8:33 Speaker 6: Around that out You ain't a gat you riding stop

8:38 Speaker 6: sight up the scream do you do wreaking up the

8:42 Speaker 6: far banks up backtrae And that sounds outside.

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8:58 Speaker 7: S That is Sands of Time from Iron Jaw some

9:37 Speaker 7: great metal from Texas and if that doesn't get your

9:39 Speaker 7: blood pumping on a cold Saturday morning, check your pulse,

9:42 Speaker 7: you might be dead. That was awesome. I love it.

9:46 Speaker 7: Now I feel pumped and ready to go shopping. That

9:48 Speaker 7: that is so good. And we've got Rick Perry and

9:51 Speaker 7: Todd Pack from Iron Jaw joining us via Skype. Hey guys,

9:55 Speaker 7: what's going good? Good, wonderful to speak with you. By

9:59 Speaker 7: the way, So before we talk about before we talk

10:02 Speaker 7: about the music and the album and everything, I just

10:04 Speaker 7: I want to talk about the weather because because we

10:08 Speaker 7: noticed online, Jenny brought this to my attention that a

10:11 Speaker 7: couple of days ago it was actually colder in Texas

10:14 Speaker 7: than it is here. And I don't know if that's

10:17 Speaker 7: still the case, but once it been like there. This

10:19 Speaker 7: week it's been real cold.

10:22 Speaker 12: Man. It was it was like twenty seven degrees yesterday.

10:26 Speaker 12: The wind chill was like minus two the other day.

10:29 Speaker 12: So god, it's it's pretty unusual for us.

10:32 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's got to be brutal, because you guys

10:34 Speaker 7: aren't aren't prepared. I mean, do you even have like,

10:36 Speaker 7: do you have winter coats to wear?

10:39 Speaker 6: Or is that that?

10:40 Speaker 7: I mean, is that something anybody there even ever thinks

10:42 Speaker 7: about or what or do you just put on multiple

10:44 Speaker 7: layers or how do you deal with that kind of cold.

10:46 Speaker 1: You put on? You put on two leather jackets.

10:49 Speaker 7: There you go, right yeah, right, there you go. There

10:53 Speaker 7: you go? Whereabouts in Texas? Are you guys? Dallas, Dallas,

11:00 Speaker 7: sport Worth? Okay? Very good, very good? So so tell

11:03 Speaker 7: us about so of course, Todd Pak vocalist Rick Perry,

11:06 Speaker 7: guitarist from Iron Jaw, joining us, and I love that

11:10 Speaker 7: track Stands of Time. I also love, by the way,

11:12 Speaker 7: Ricky sent us that song which we'll we'll play later,

11:16 Speaker 7: that Bury the Snake, And you were saying in the

11:18 Speaker 7: email about how it's kind of like, you know, it's

11:21 Speaker 7: kind of like old school kissing that way. And I

11:22 Speaker 7: listened to it and I thought, you know, I can

11:24 Speaker 7: definitely imagine Gene Simmons uh singing that so great great stuff.

11:28 Speaker 7: But now these are all from the new album or

11:31 Speaker 7: the newest your newest release, Cursed, Is that correct? It's right? Yeah?

11:36 Speaker 12: We uh we We signed earlier this year with a

11:40 Speaker 12: label called No Life Till Metal Records, Okay and U

11:43 Speaker 12: and they we partnered with them and then released our

11:47 Speaker 12: our second album. Our first one was Chain at Command,

11:50 Speaker 12: which came out in twenty twenty.

11:52 Speaker 7: Yep, And.

11:55 Speaker 12: This new one just came out a couple of weeks ago,

11:57 Speaker 12: and it's getting a real good response. We played a

12:00 Speaker 12: good show here in uh Fort Worth and kicked it off,

12:03 Speaker 12: and now we're telling everyone else about it.

12:07 Speaker 7: Yeah. I think the first time we talked to you guys,

12:09 Speaker 7: I think it was a Chain of Command had come

12:13 Speaker 7: out fairly recently, or that was your newest release that

12:15 Speaker 7: was a while ago. I bet you know that the

12:18 Speaker 7: time it goes so fast it becomes a blur. But

12:20 Speaker 7: I think I think that's what we were talking about

12:22 Speaker 7: the first time we had you guys on and.

12:25 Speaker 12: And then we we talked about it when we released

12:27 Speaker 12: pyro Mancer. We talked to you that time.

12:30 Speaker 7: Yep.

12:30 Speaker 1: Okay, yep, that's right.

12:32 Speaker 7: That's right.

12:34 Speaker 12: And Pyro mansers on this album as well. It's uh,

12:36 Speaker 12: this was this album is really like a uh. Some

12:39 Speaker 12: of these songs have been released a while. It was

12:41 Speaker 12: like some singles that we've been released every few months

12:44 Speaker 12: for the past year or so, and then uh, and

12:48 Speaker 12: then a couple other ones that haven't been released yet,

12:50 Speaker 12: like Sands of Time and Bury the Snake. So uh,

12:54 Speaker 12: the Uh, it's a it's some songs that we've been

12:57 Speaker 12: working on and uh, you know, yeah, it's we're really

13:00 Speaker 12: we're real happy with the collection.

13:03 Speaker 7: Has the approach with this album been different, been different

13:06 Speaker 7: than with Chain of Command? Has has the process evolved?

13:10 Speaker 10: Or?

13:10 Speaker 7: I mean it sounds like some of these might have

13:12 Speaker 7: been recorded at different times in different studios, right from

13:14 Speaker 7: what you were saying, So I think maybe we may

13:17 Speaker 7: have Uh, well, they were all recorded.

13:22 Speaker 1: They were all recorded in Rick cut out for a second.

13:26 Speaker 7: Oh we yeah, we we lost you there for about

13:29 Speaker 7: three or four seconds. Rick, Can you repeat what you said? Uh?

13:35 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm here to hear me?

13:39 Speaker 7: Yeah, Rick, is that you.

13:44 Speaker 1: Rich? Cut out? Can you hear me?

13:48 Speaker 7: I can hear you? Todd? Yeah, all right, Well we

13:51 Speaker 7: we keep losing Rick, Rick, I have an idea. Do

13:55 Speaker 7: you want do you want to The approach wasn't oh

13:58 Speaker 7: I was. I was gonna say, Rick, do you want

13:59 Speaker 7: to call this studio line on your phone? And that

14:02 Speaker 7: way we can have Todd on Skype and you on

14:03 Speaker 7: the uh on the phone line and that'll work since

14:05 Speaker 7: you're cutting in and out. I don't know if sure.

14:11 Speaker 1: I think I think he should do that if he heard.

14:13 Speaker 7: That okay if you heard that, Yeah, Rick, the studio

14:16 Speaker 7: line is six oh three two five oh six oh

14:19 Speaker 7: oh seven. If you want to call us, maybe that

14:22 Speaker 7: would work better. Maybe your maybe your internet's being a

14:26 Speaker 7: little wonky. I don't know. I think Jenny, did you

14:28 Speaker 7: just send that to him too?

14:29 Speaker 1: Yes?

14:29 Speaker 7: I did. Okay, Jenny sent you that to Rick. I

14:32 Speaker 7: don't know if you can even hear me, but give

14:34 Speaker 7: us a call on the studio line if you want.

14:36 Speaker 7: I'll pick that up and we can uh uh that

14:38 Speaker 7: way we can continue. Yeah, Skype is not uh I'll

14:41 Speaker 7: tell you. I'll tell you what. It's gotten a lot

14:42 Speaker 7: better than it used to be Skype.

14:44 Speaker 1: But I can answer your question.

14:47 Speaker 7: I think, yeah, go ahead, Todd. Yeah.

14:49 Speaker 1: They were all done in the same studio.

14:51 Speaker 9: We just we just we recorded the drums in our

14:54 Speaker 9: rehearsal studio and we had our guy who mixed it

14:58 Speaker 9: and engineered it do that, and then we all the guitar,

15:00 Speaker 9: all the vocals, all that stuff is done at my house,

15:03 Speaker 9: and then we released a song. As we were done

15:06 Speaker 9: with the song, we'd release it and then I would

15:08 Speaker 9: shoot a video for it, and then we would do

15:10 Speaker 9: a whole video and we release it that way, So

15:12 Speaker 9: we released things, you know, every two or three or

15:16 Speaker 9: four months.

15:18 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting that we you know, we live in

15:20 Speaker 7: a time where, yeah, there's so many different approaches you

15:23 Speaker 7: can take as far as releasing music. You know, there

15:28 Speaker 7: was a time when it was pretty standard. You know,

15:30 Speaker 7: you release an album and maybe the first single goes

15:33 Speaker 7: to radio six to eight weeks before the album's coming out,

15:36 Speaker 7: and then the album comes out, and then the second

15:38 Speaker 7: single and then maybe the third single.

15:40 Speaker 12: You know.

15:41 Speaker 7: Now it's like there's so many different ways you can

15:43 Speaker 7: do it because of the Internet, because of social media,

15:45 Speaker 7: and a lot of artists now are using the you know,

15:49 Speaker 7: they call it the waterfall approach, where you release a

15:51 Speaker 7: series of singles and then an album. And I think

15:54 Speaker 7: we have Rick on the phone. Rick, is that you. Yeah, Yeah, okay,

15:57 Speaker 7: welcome back. Excellent, excellent, Okay, so now we're all we're

16:01 Speaker 7: all together again. We're all good.

16:03 Speaker 13: Sorry about that.

16:04 Speaker 7: Uh, you know, that's okay.

16:06 Speaker 12: The Skype three way didn't didn't work as plan.

16:09 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, technology will fail us at times. That is uh,

16:14 Speaker 7: that is a factive life. No, but this works. This

16:18 Speaker 7: works now, you guys too. So Todd, you referred to videos.

16:25 Speaker 7: You guys have made. How many music videos do you

16:27 Speaker 7: guys have? It seems like you've made quite a few

16:28 Speaker 7: at this point.

16:30 Speaker 1: Oh, we have a ton we've done. I shot six, No. Five,

16:37 Speaker 1: five of the last six videos. This is a seventh

16:40 Speaker 1: song album. I did five of the last six one

16:44 Speaker 1: of them. One of them.

16:45 Speaker 9: We had somebody else to actually just use some footage

16:47 Speaker 9: that a guy had to get out to get our

16:49 Speaker 9: first video out for this album, which was Tonight we raid.

16:53 Speaker 9: We used some live footage and then through a bunch

16:55 Speaker 9: of bombs and airplanes and you know, on the standard,

16:57 Speaker 9: the standard, good old metal stuff in there because it

16:59 Speaker 9: was appropriate. Yeah, And then I shot all the rest

17:02 Speaker 9: of those myself and edited when it was nice. Like

17:04 Speaker 9: you said, you kind of did the I didn't know

17:06 Speaker 9: how to name, but good. The waterfall effect was great

17:08 Speaker 9: because we could do a video, release it, and then

17:12 Speaker 9: whenever we were ready we could do the next one.

17:13 Speaker 9: We could do one at a time instead of kind

17:15 Speaker 9: of like you know, putting everything out there all at once,

17:18 Speaker 9: and then you don't that's it. You don't hear from

17:20 Speaker 9: us again for five years. Right, we were We've been

17:22 Speaker 9: in your we've been in your faith.

17:24 Speaker 1: For the last two years.

17:25 Speaker 7: You know, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think it's I think

17:29 Speaker 7: it's so important. Uh in the era that we live

17:31 Speaker 7: in too. You know, you got to kind of feed

17:32 Speaker 7: that machine. And yeah, like you said, you know, being

17:36 Speaker 7: people's uh faces and uh, Rick, is that is that

17:39 Speaker 7: kind of how the way you think about it too?

17:41 Speaker 7: The way Todd does in terms of strategy.

17:44 Speaker 12: Yeah, just uh that way there's always something new coming

17:46 Speaker 12: out and uh instead of blowing your whole creative wand

17:52 Speaker 12: so to speak at one time, Uh, you know, you

17:55 Speaker 12: you prolong the pleasure.

17:57 Speaker 7: I suppose, well, well put Yeah, the videos, So Todd,

18:06 Speaker 7: you shoot all those I.

18:08 Speaker 1: Shot a lot of them.

18:09 Speaker 9: Yeah, probably the last the last five or so. We

18:13 Speaker 9: did our We did all those ourselves.

18:14 Speaker 7: That's awesome. Yeah, that's that's fantastic. It's funny too, because

18:18 Speaker 7: some people don't realize. In fact, I was having a

18:20 Speaker 7: conversation with someone last night about this. Some people think

18:23 Speaker 7: that music videos because MTV obviously doesn't play them anymore

18:27 Speaker 7: and hasn't for a long time. I'm sure they have

18:29 Speaker 7: a show where they might play some but but but

18:33 Speaker 7: but yeah, probably not. But people a lot of people

18:36 Speaker 7: have a perception that music videos are dead, that the

18:39 Speaker 7: art of the music video is dead. And I I

18:41 Speaker 7: told the person I was talking with, I said, well,

18:43 Speaker 7: actually there's more music videos than ever because of YouTube,

18:47 Speaker 7: and you know, now, uh, there's there's more, you know,

18:51 Speaker 7: you know, and and there's some artists, you know, major

18:54 Speaker 7: artists who have just you know, a gazillion dollars, who

18:58 Speaker 7: if they have an album that's coming out, they'll actually

19:00 Speaker 7: make I know, Beyonce has done this where there was

19:03 Speaker 7: an album where she had a video, a high budget

19:06 Speaker 7: video for every single track on the album, not just

19:09 Speaker 7: the singles. You know, she just went all out, which

19:12 Speaker 7: must be nice to have the money to do that.

19:14 Speaker 7: But but it really is such a crucial marketing tool

19:18 Speaker 7: now now more than it's ever been. I would argue, yeah,

19:21 Speaker 7: I you know, we.

19:23 Speaker 12: Wanted to put a video out for every song because

19:27 Speaker 12: it's just the best way to get people's attention on

19:31 Speaker 12: social media, you know, on Facebook and Instagram, and there's

19:34 Speaker 12: all sorts of avenues you can use the videos with.

19:38 Speaker 12: And uh. And so when we first put up our

19:42 Speaker 12: first album, Chain of Command, we did the we got

19:44 Speaker 12: someone to shoot the first video for us. But you know,

19:47 Speaker 12: it was it was about five hundred bucks, and uh,

19:50 Speaker 12: that's a lot of money for a unsigned local band.

19:55 Speaker 12: So we had to try to figure out a different

19:58 Speaker 12: way of doing it, and luckily Todd stepped up to

20:01 Speaker 12: the plate and figured out how to do it on

20:03 Speaker 12: his phone. And so we like doing things do it yourself.

20:06 Speaker 12: That way, you can put your own creativity into it,

20:09 Speaker 12: keep it low budget, but still make it look cool.

20:11 Speaker 12: So I think that's a lot more creative way of

20:14 Speaker 12: doing it. We recorded the album that way. Also, we

20:17 Speaker 12: recorded the album completely ourselves and just send it to

20:21 Speaker 12: our engineer guy.

20:23 Speaker 7: To mix it all.

20:24 Speaker 12: Okay, We try to keep it in house as much

20:26 Speaker 12: as possible. That way, we can put our own creativity

20:29 Speaker 12: into it. That way, we can redo it as many

20:31 Speaker 12: times do we want to, if we want to, you know,

20:33 Speaker 12: get it just right the way we want it. And

20:36 Speaker 12: it's worked out good so far.

20:39 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's excellent. Yeah, I mean, it's it's remarkable too

20:41 Speaker 7: to live in a time where we have the technology

20:43 Speaker 7: to do these kinds of things, and it does it

20:46 Speaker 7: allows you to have control, really complete control over what

20:51 Speaker 7: you're putting out and how you're presenting yourselves, and and

20:54 Speaker 7: it's it's a great time to be alive in that sense. Really,

20:58 Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's really ar Yeah.

21:01 Speaker 12: In the old days, you know, Matt, the major labels

21:06 Speaker 12: were like the gatekeepers, and they were the ones who

21:08 Speaker 12: decided what bands would be uh uh, you know, recorded

21:13 Speaker 12: and have releases out and promoted to the people. So

21:17 Speaker 12: there weren't that really that many bands. Now it's much easier.

21:20 Speaker 12: Almost anyone can do it, So it's way easy to

21:24 Speaker 12: get your your stuff out there. It's just there's a

21:27 Speaker 12: lot more other bands to compete with. So that's the

21:30 Speaker 12: challenge now is just becoming getting yourself noticed. But we

21:35 Speaker 12: just focus on what we think is good quality songs

21:39 Speaker 12: and you know, iroon John is just pure metal with

21:43 Speaker 12: no gimmicks. You know, it's just solid metal that's based

21:48 Speaker 12: on good songwriting, I think, and uh and that's what

21:53 Speaker 12: we hope people will pick up on. And eventually by

21:56 Speaker 12: putting out songs every couple of months on a video

22:00 Speaker 12: accompanying it, we're hoping that people will eventually start noticing it.

22:02 Speaker 12: And it seems like they're starting to.

22:04 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Todd, you had started to say something

22:08 Speaker 7: as well.

22:10 Speaker 9: Well, you didn't mention the you know, the ability the

22:12 Speaker 9: technology these days and I was like, it's you know,

22:14 Speaker 9: it's a may II we did.

22:15 Speaker 1: We filmed all that on my phone.

22:17 Speaker 9: Yeah, all our videos that I shot, we actually just

22:19 Speaker 9: filmed it on my phone, and then I edited it

22:22 Speaker 9: on the most basic iMovie program you can imagine.

22:27 Speaker 1: And at first I didn't think I could do it.

22:29 Speaker 9: I even at one point I remember a couple of

22:30 Speaker 9: two or three years ago for an old video we

22:32 Speaker 9: did for a ride Free or Die from our first

22:35 Speaker 9: record during the pandemic, I was like, dude, I can't

22:38 Speaker 9: do this. I just don't have the ability. And then

22:40 Speaker 9: I kind of took a break and I came back

22:41 Speaker 9: to it and I figured it out, and I did

22:44 Speaker 9: it on iMovie, you know, which is like it's basically

22:47 Speaker 9: iMovie is kind of like your home video that you

22:50 Speaker 9: put some music in the background of your kids at Christmas,

22:53 Speaker 9: right technology.

22:54 Speaker 2: But I figured it out, and so then I was

22:57 Speaker 2: able to pump out a bunch of videos for us.

23:00 Speaker 9: Yeah, and you know you mentioned Beyonce did it, but

23:03 Speaker 9: but really I took the idea from more from Metallica.

23:07 Speaker 2: Because Metallica released their last two records, they did the

23:09 Speaker 2: same thing.

23:10 Speaker 9: They had a video for damn near every song yeah,

23:12 Speaker 9: and a lot of and a lot of them they

23:13 Speaker 9: just shot in their own home studio, which you know

23:16 Speaker 9: they called the headquarters because it's I'm sure it's a massive,

23:18 Speaker 9: you know, compound somewhere right, And they shot all those

23:22 Speaker 9: in the same room almost and they and you can

23:24 Speaker 9: tell they just changed close changed lighting, and so I

23:26 Speaker 9: kind of we kind of went with that method, you know,

23:28 Speaker 9: were we shot a lot.

23:29 Speaker 1: Of it in the same room.

23:30 Speaker 9: We just we just rearranged the room and got created

23:33 Speaker 9: with the backgrounds and stuff.

23:35 Speaker 1: So we kind of did that. Took I took it

23:36 Speaker 1: more from Metallica than than Beyonce.

23:38 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah to her, she won, she won Country

23:42 Speaker 2: Album of the Year, so whatever.

23:44 Speaker 7: Sure, sure, yeah, you can't argue with success. But yeah,

23:48 Speaker 7: I assume the place and the Metallica videos where they

23:50 Speaker 7: shot those, I assume it's the same place that you

23:52 Speaker 7: see in the documentary some kind of Monster. Yeah, it

23:55 Speaker 7: looks like it's there.

23:55 Speaker 9: It's there what they call their headquarters, Yeah, which is

23:58 Speaker 9: what we should call our rehearsal room, the headquarters.

24:01 Speaker 1: You know, you know, it's a big as placement, you

24:03 Speaker 1: call it your headquarters.

24:04 Speaker 7: It's not just for the jam, Yeah, exactly, a compound. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

24:12 Speaker 7: Now that it's cool though, that you're able to and

24:14 Speaker 7: that you know and that you're willing to learn the

24:15 Speaker 7: technology too. I think a lot of artists who you know,

24:20 Speaker 7: especially artists who who have been around for a while,

24:22 Speaker 7: maybe maybe you are a little older, who are resistant

24:25 Speaker 7: to the technology. Part of that is just people being

24:29 Speaker 7: technophobic generally. You know, people are are Some people get

24:33 Speaker 7: nervous around you know, can can I learn this? Do

24:36 Speaker 7: I have the ability to learn this? And and then,

24:39 Speaker 7: But very often if you challenge yourself to do it,

24:41 Speaker 7: and you really dive in and do it, at the

24:43 Speaker 7: end of the process you say, Okay, that wasn't so bad.

24:46 Speaker 7: I was able to learn that, and it's it's good

24:48 Speaker 7: for your it's good for your brain too. Always I

24:50 Speaker 7: totally agree.

24:51 Speaker 9: I had that problem because I had to learn how

24:53 Speaker 9: to first just record my own vocals. And I did

24:56 Speaker 9: that from when I was in a previous band, because

24:58 Speaker 9: I got tired of going into a studio over the

25:00 Speaker 9: weekend and that be the final product.

25:04 Speaker 1: That's it. You're done. If you don't like it too bad,

25:07 Speaker 1: pay me some more if you want to fix it.

25:09 Speaker 2: So I got to the point where I got to

25:10 Speaker 2: learn how to do this on my own.

25:11 Speaker 9: So, I mean, I can't tell you how long it

25:13 Speaker 9: took me just to hook up the microphone and get

25:15 Speaker 9: it to work right, really, you know, just that probably.

25:18 Speaker 1: Then I had to learn how to do guitars. Then

25:20 Speaker 1: I had to learn how to do videos, and I

25:22 Speaker 1: did it all.

25:22 Speaker 2: And I'm not a technically proficient person so to speak.

25:25 Speaker 9: I mean, I'm a drummer at heart, so I usually

25:27 Speaker 9: just you know, tighten down the tight down the drumshell

25:30 Speaker 9: on the stand.

25:31 Speaker 1: And I have no you know, and I have nothing

25:33 Speaker 1: to plug in. I have no red, yellow, green wires

25:36 Speaker 1: or anything like that to.

25:37 Speaker 9: Plug in for thirty years, so I was never what

25:40 Speaker 9: I would call technically proficient, but I figured it out.

25:43 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, but that's a good that's a good lesson

25:47 Speaker 7: too for people and for people who maybe are intimidated

25:50 Speaker 7: by the technology. You say, not technically proficient. But what

25:54 Speaker 7: I think a lot of people don't realize is, you know,

25:56 Speaker 7: these technologies are designed for people who aren't necessary arly

26:00 Speaker 7: technically proficient. You just got to be you just got

26:03 Speaker 7: to be able to, you know, willing to put your

26:04 Speaker 7: head down and just learn. But but you don't have

26:07 Speaker 7: to be some sort of technical wizard to use these tools.

26:10 Speaker 7: And I think that's something people who are intimidated don't realize.

26:15 Speaker 7: But if you can learn that, yeah, yeah, there you go,

26:19 Speaker 7: there you go. The videos all too, I mean, yeah,

26:23 Speaker 7: they look you know, they look cool, and they look

26:26 Speaker 7: you know, they're they're competitive with what else is out there?

26:28 Speaker 7: So what's what's the scene like there for you guys?

26:33 Speaker 7: I know, and I think we've talked about it before.

26:36 Speaker 7: My impression is that the Dallas metal scene is is

26:40 Speaker 7: really good. That there's there's really good places to play,

26:43 Speaker 7: and there's a lot of great bands there is that

26:45 Speaker 7: Is that still the case?

26:49 Speaker 12: I would say there's a lot of there's there's a

26:52 Speaker 12: decent amount of places to play. We're we're actually in

26:55 Speaker 12: fort Worth, uh okay, you know, right next to Dallas.

26:59 Speaker 12: So yeah, there's play is playing fort Worth and Dallas.

27:01 Speaker 12: Uh you know, probably about four or five really good

27:06 Speaker 12: venues in each each town I would say to play at. Yeah,

27:11 Speaker 12: and probably a lot of other smaller ones. Yeah, but

27:13 Speaker 12: there's some there's plenty of good there's shows every weekend,

27:16 Speaker 12: I mean tons of shows. So yeah, national acts and

27:22 Speaker 12: local bands. I mean it's it's a pretty healthy scene

27:26 Speaker 12: and there's a lot of good bands, a lot of

27:28 Speaker 12: different kinds of metal. We kind of stand out a

27:30 Speaker 12: little bit because a lot of the bands are more

27:34 Speaker 12: modern style, and Iron Jaw kind of hearkens back to,

27:38 Speaker 12: I think, a more classic metal style. But even so,

27:43 Speaker 12: you know, we'll play with anybody. We'll do shows with

27:46 Speaker 12: death metal bands or sure, you know, rock and roll bands.

27:51 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean your sound is is a little

27:54 Speaker 7: more classic metal, but it also is very but I

27:57 Speaker 7: think I think it's a little more aggressive, heavier than

28:01 Speaker 7: a lot of a lot of a lot of that stuff,

28:04 Speaker 7: you know, in terms of production on what you want

28:06 Speaker 7: that Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you.

28:09 Speaker 9: Know, I think you have even if you have these days,

28:12 Speaker 9: because of just the way technology is, even if you

28:16 Speaker 9: have that approach, you know, the old school style, just

28:20 Speaker 9: the way things sound so good these days, it makes

28:22 Speaker 9: it sound a little more modern than its actual intent,

28:26 Speaker 9: just because it sounds so clean and so crisp, just

28:29 Speaker 9: from you know, people's home studios.

28:31 Speaker 1: I think that adds to the I'm glad you say that,

28:33 Speaker 1: because I'm glad.

28:33 Speaker 9: We kind of have a little bit of a modern

28:34 Speaker 9: feel and not you know, that because you remember old

28:37 Speaker 9: school production it was.

28:39 Speaker 1: It was horrible.

28:39 Speaker 9: It kind of even I think it made metal struggle

28:42 Speaker 9: a little bit because people didn't.

28:44 Speaker 1: Know how to record metal back in the eighties.

28:45 Speaker 9: So well, and you have a really fast band like

28:48 Speaker 9: can Thrash or any of that sounded so bad and

28:50 Speaker 9: you're like, those are good riffs. It's just there's no

28:52 Speaker 9: way I could convince my buddy to listen to this

28:53 Speaker 9: because it just sounds horrible. Right, He doesn't understand musicianship.

28:57 Speaker 9: He just goes that sounds like I don't know if

28:59 Speaker 9: I can cut.

29:00 Speaker 7: Sorry, no, but we're on a delay. I caught it.

29:03 Speaker 2: Sorry, that's okay, Alright, I'm gonna say something earlier too, and.

29:06 Speaker 7: I was like, that's all right, it happens. No, we're

29:09 Speaker 7: on a delay. It's all good. But uh but yeah no,

29:12 Speaker 7: And I think to your point, yeah, that's true. People

29:14 Speaker 7: didn't know how to record metal. And although that that

29:17 Speaker 7: doesn't always uh preclude success. I mean, you look at

29:20 Speaker 7: and Justice for All you know, uh, which was you know,

29:25 Speaker 7: such a huge album for the really the biggest band,

29:28 Speaker 7: you know, not just biggest metal band, but the biggest

29:30 Speaker 7: band in the world Metallica and I I think that out.

29:35 Speaker 7: I mean, it sounds terrible, but they put it out

29:39 Speaker 7: and and it worked. It just works, So you never know.

29:42 Speaker 7: But I think, but I think you're right. I think

29:44 Speaker 7: I think the trick is if you if the production

29:47 Speaker 7: is really good, then even if it's something that maybe

29:50 Speaker 7: harkens back to a different time, as long as the

29:53 Speaker 7: production is really good and really strong and loud and aggressive,

29:57 Speaker 7: it's going to have a certain timelessness to it. And

30:00 Speaker 7: and I think you guys have captured that. I think

30:01 Speaker 7: there's something timeless about you know, a track like Sands

30:05 Speaker 7: of Time. It's you know, you can listen to that

30:06 Speaker 7: in any era and it's it just sounds really really good.

30:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Sands of Time. Sands of Time was

30:13 Speaker 1: the song that got me hooked on the band.

30:17 Speaker 2: It was the song that he first that Rick first

30:19 Speaker 2: presented to me.

30:20 Speaker 7: Oh okay, I was and I was like, that's a

30:22 Speaker 7: great song.

30:22 Speaker 1: And they had previously recorded it with their old singer Yea.

30:25 Speaker 9: The song's been around for a minute and finally finally

30:28 Speaker 9: made it on a record, But uh, that was the

30:30 Speaker 9: song that hooked me, and it's still it's still one

30:32 Speaker 9: of the coolest songs out of the counterlog.

30:35 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, I love that. I love that.

30:38 Speaker 12: Yeah, we would have, we would have put it on

30:40 Speaker 12: the first album, but we we just actually kind of

30:42 Speaker 12: ran out of time, and uh so we just said, okay,

30:45 Speaker 12: well we'll save it for another time, and you know,

30:49 Speaker 12: the Sands of Time eventually caught up to us.

30:51 Speaker 7: So yeah, there you go, there you go. I love

30:55 Speaker 7: the solo on that too. I don't know if we've

30:57 Speaker 7: talked about this before, Rick, when you've been on the show,

30:59 Speaker 7: but who are your influences as a guitar player. I'm

31:02 Speaker 7: really curious because I love your solos.

31:06 Speaker 12: Uh well, first of all, there's two two lead guitar

31:09 Speaker 12: players and Iron John, myself and Brown. The solo in

31:14 Speaker 12: in the Sands of Time, for example, I do the

31:16 Speaker 12: first one at the very beginning of the song, and

31:18 Speaker 12: then later on in the song it starts off with

31:21 Speaker 12: Jeff and it goes to me and then it goes

31:23 Speaker 12: back to Jeff.

31:24 Speaker 7: I love that. I love that approach. It gives it,

31:26 Speaker 7: It gives a texture, you know, when they would two

31:29 Speaker 7: guitars going back and forth.

31:30 Speaker 9: It that.

31:31 Speaker 7: That's really cool.

31:32 Speaker 12: Yeah, Rick, Rick, I love Judis Priest and of course

31:38 Speaker 12: and Slayer and bands like that that have two lead

31:40 Speaker 12: guitar players because uh, it's it becomes like a a

31:46 Speaker 12: dialogue between two uh performances. You know, like there's a

31:52 Speaker 12: one guitar player will have his solo and then another

31:54 Speaker 12: guitar player will have their response to that almost and

31:58 Speaker 12: it becomes almost like a dialogue. And uh that that's

32:02 Speaker 12: pretty much the influence for uh me as a guitar players.

32:07 Speaker 12: You know, Judas Priest and uh and also I love

32:11 Speaker 12: Angus Young of a C D C and uh Ted

32:16 Speaker 12: Nugent you know from the seventies. I love Ted Nugent.

32:19 Speaker 12: Ace freely is a big influence on on me for

32:22 Speaker 12: lead guitar. Yes, so just I like uh, I like

32:27 Speaker 12: the solo too kind of say something and kind of

32:30 Speaker 12: be like a song within the song.

32:32 Speaker 3: You know.

32:32 Speaker 12: Yeah, it should it should be memorable and you should

32:36 Speaker 12: be able to uh you know remember the key key

32:41 Speaker 12: little phrases in there.

32:42 Speaker 7: Uh. Do you guys have a lot of songs where

32:44 Speaker 7: you and Jeff trade off like that? Or is or

32:47 Speaker 7: is that unusual?

32:49 Speaker 3: Uh?

32:49 Speaker 12: About half of them? Probably cool? Uh? We we you

32:53 Speaker 12: do trade offs or or maybe I'll do a lead

32:56 Speaker 12: section in the beginning and he'll do one at the

32:58 Speaker 12: end or something like that. Okay, some sol as he

33:02 Speaker 12: does all by himself, some I d all by myself.

33:05 Speaker 12: We just we bury it up. Yeah, And I think

33:07 Speaker 12: it makes it more interesting for the the listener and

33:10 Speaker 12: also the people who come see us live, because you know,

33:13 Speaker 12: you're looking back and forth. Now he's playing, Now this

33:16 Speaker 12: guy's playing. It makes it more interesting, I think.

33:19 Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, I'd love to see you guys live. Are

33:21 Speaker 7: you We talked a little bit about the scene there.

33:23 Speaker 7: Are you guys playing out a lot? Are you doing?

33:26 Speaker 7: Are you doing shows every week or what? What's what?

33:28 Speaker 7: What's it like for you guys? How active have you been?

33:33 Speaker 12: We're uh, well we uh go ahead, Todd.

33:36 Speaker 9: Yeah, we don't play out as that much anymore. We

33:39 Speaker 9: we play more selective shows. Yeah, you know, because people

33:45 Speaker 9: aren't gonna come see every week. They're not gonna even

33:47 Speaker 9: come see every month, so you know, every every couple

33:49 Speaker 9: of months, I mean, like this.

33:51 Speaker 2: Year, we have one potential show that might be Uh.

33:55 Speaker 9: What's funny is I'm looking at old footage of you

33:57 Speaker 9: from last week, I think, and you're wearing a warhog shirt.

33:59 Speaker 7: Oh, I'm wearing a warhog shirt. Right now?

34:02 Speaker 1: Is that is that current?

34:03 Speaker 7: But I'm looking at Oh we love Warhog, Yes, yeah, yeah.

34:06 Speaker 9: They're locals the virus. They're local buddies of virus. As

34:08 Speaker 9: matter of fact, I've been going back and forth with them.

34:10 Speaker 9: We're trying to line up our next show with them.

34:12 Speaker 7: Oh that's awesome. Yeah, Oh that's what it looks like.

34:16 Speaker 1: And Rick doesn't even know this yet.

34:17 Speaker 2: It looks like the date we've set they might be

34:21 Speaker 2: headed to.

34:22 Speaker 9: They're doing a battle of the bands from Voking thing, okay,

34:25 Speaker 9: and so it looks like they made it to the

34:26 Speaker 9: next round. So it looks like the show we're gonna

34:29 Speaker 9: have to change dates on. But yeah, our next show

34:31 Speaker 9: in the middle of the summer might.

34:33 Speaker 13: Be with them.

34:34 Speaker 1: I mean, we might book something in between that.

34:35 Speaker 9: But we try not to overplay or oversaturate it, you know,

34:38 Speaker 9: because you know, people who are into this stuff are

34:40 Speaker 9: a little older. They're not going to go every week

34:42 Speaker 9: to see you play like when you were twenty one,

34:43 Speaker 9: and they didn't give a damn.

34:44 Speaker 2: They're out, they're there, they're into it, they're staying till

34:47 Speaker 2: the end.

34:47 Speaker 1: That doesn't happen anymore, right right.

34:51 Speaker 12: Yeah, war When we first started, when we When we

34:54 Speaker 12: first started as a band, uh you know, which was

34:58 Speaker 12: I guess around twenty eighteen something like that, we played

35:03 Speaker 12: out everywhere we could, you know, maybe two or three

35:06 Speaker 12: times a month sometimes. Yeah, but now most of the

35:10 Speaker 12: metal fans here in DFW know who we are, and

35:13 Speaker 12: uh yeah, like Todd says, we kind of space it

35:16 Speaker 12: out and try to make it a really special gig

35:19 Speaker 12: and you know, choose the venue and the play and

35:22 Speaker 12: other bands we're gonna play with, and try to put

35:24 Speaker 12: together a good package and uh uh and do it

35:27 Speaker 12: that way. Either that or if something comes along where

35:31 Speaker 12: we have a chance to open up for a national act,

35:34 Speaker 12: we'll take that too, because that'll be a good chance

35:36 Speaker 12: for us to plan for some new people.

35:38 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

35:41 Speaker 1: Yeah.

35:41 Speaker 7: I so I don't play anymore, but I used to

35:43 Speaker 7: play in bands, and I do know, I am very

35:46 Speaker 7: familiar with the grind of when you're in that mode

35:49 Speaker 7: where you're just trying to play every show you possibly can,

35:52 Speaker 7: and when you're younger and you have less responsibilities, it's

35:56 Speaker 7: it's a little easier.

35:57 Speaker 1: To do that.

35:58 Speaker 7: But then but but you know, so part of it too,

36:01 Speaker 7: not just not just getting older and you have more responsibilities,

36:04 Speaker 7: and you have to use your time, you know, you

36:05 Speaker 7: have to kind of pick and choose what you're doing

36:07 Speaker 7: with your time. But also, as technology, which is a

36:12 Speaker 7: consistent theme of course with these conversations, as technology has evolved,

36:15 Speaker 7: people have so many more options now for what they

36:19 Speaker 7: do with their time. And and and you're right, you know,

36:22 Speaker 7: people aren't necessarily going to come out and see you,

36:24 Speaker 7: even if they're your biggest fan, They're not necessarily going

36:27 Speaker 7: to come out and see you every single weekend. So

36:31 Speaker 7: so at a certain point, you know, being more selective

36:33 Speaker 7: about what you're doing, I think is a sound strategy.

36:37 Speaker 12: Yeah. We we could play out every week, you know,

36:40 Speaker 12: if we wanted to, and uh, you know it, even

36:43 Speaker 12: though we have day jobs and you know, other responsibilities,

36:47 Speaker 12: we could still do it. But you know, we just

36:50 Speaker 12: really choose not to. Just we try to make it

36:52 Speaker 12: a little more special by spacing it out some.

36:55 Speaker 7: Yeah, now that makes sense, have you guys?

36:58 Speaker 12: We wish we could. We'd love to go out there

37:00 Speaker 12: to play in Massachusetts though. That would be awesome.

37:02 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, it'd be What would be really cool

37:04 Speaker 7: is if you and Warhog went on tour together and

37:07 Speaker 7: you and that'd be so cool.

37:12 Speaker 12: Uh, but is there is there are there any metal

37:15 Speaker 12: festivals up there in that part of the country.

37:18 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm trying to think of.

37:22 Speaker 12: Though, the Maryland Metal fest.

37:28 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm trying to think of what might be coming up.

37:32 Speaker 1: The thing.

37:33 Speaker 7: The thing with festivals, you know, a lot of them

37:35 Speaker 7: have come and gone over the years, especially over the

37:37 Speaker 7: last few years as touring has become harder for for

37:41 Speaker 7: a lot of people. I'm trying to think of what's

37:43 Speaker 7: what might be even coming up this u like the

37:45 Speaker 7: summer or something. But I don't know, I'm kind of

37:47 Speaker 7: I'm kind of drawing a blank. I have to think

37:49 Speaker 7: on that. But yeah, maybe there might be something going

37:52 Speaker 7: on up here. Maybe you guys could get up to sometimes.

37:54 Speaker 7: Who knows that would be That would be very very cool.

37:57 Speaker 1: We can we stay at your house?

38:00 Speaker 7: I don't know. Well, I'll tell you what. So we yeah,

38:02 Speaker 7: we'll we'll put you in uh, we'll put you in

38:04 Speaker 7: the room with DJ Reckless yep, a little bit of

38:09 Speaker 7: a but uh, but we'll we'll put you We have

38:11 Speaker 7: a we have a he works at a country station.

38:14 Speaker 7: You'd love him. But there you go, there you go?

38:20 Speaker 12: Now what so Matt so so, Matt how did you, uh,

38:22 Speaker 12: how did Warhog come on to your radar?

38:25 Speaker 7: I was trying to figure out as we were talking

38:28 Speaker 7: who we met. So Mike Woolsey is that Jenny?

38:32 Speaker 6: Is that how how we started it all?

38:34 Speaker 7: He started it all as far as Taxi, right.

38:36 Speaker 9: I remember you guys having that conversation the last time

38:38 Speaker 9: you spoke to Rick a year or two.

38:40 Speaker 12: Yeah, he was in a band called uh moon Falling

38:45 Speaker 12: at the time, I think, or uh.

38:47 Speaker 1: Moon Fallen is his current band.

38:51 Speaker 12: Yep, yeah, Okay, he was in a different band back then,

38:54 Speaker 12: but he told you about us, and that's how, uh

38:57 Speaker 12: you we got in touch. Is it the same thing

39:00 Speaker 12: with the Warhog?

39:01 Speaker 7: I believe so, yeah, I think. Yeah, Mike, Mike.

39:04 Speaker 12: Woosley, he's a one man promotion machine.

39:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, Mike's that guy.

39:08 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, No, he sends me awesome artists. Yeah, he's great.

39:12 Speaker 7: And yeah, everyone everyone he's sent us. We've been very

39:15 Speaker 7: happy about and grateful for you guys and Warhog and

39:19 Speaker 7: and there's been others from Texas that we've talked to.

39:22 Speaker 7: And that's why too, I'm so interested in the scene

39:24 Speaker 7: there because it's just there's a lot of great music

39:27 Speaker 7: coming out of that area, no doubt about it. So

39:30 Speaker 7: really really digging that.

39:33 Speaker 12: But very similar to us Massachusetts.

39:37 Speaker 9: Well, I was gonna say, Warhol is very similar to us.

39:40 Speaker 9: And they're constantly putting That's how they caught my eye,

39:43 Speaker 9: and that's I was like. I was like, man, we

39:44 Speaker 9: need to we need to get together with these guys

39:46 Speaker 9: and do some shows. And we keep trying to do it,

39:48 Speaker 9: and you know, maybe, like I said, this summer, but

39:50 Speaker 9: they're very similar to us where they they're always producing content.

39:53 Speaker 9: You know, yeah, they're always putting something out every few

39:55 Speaker 9: months and completely promoting in there.

39:58 Speaker 1: Those those guys play constantly.

40:00 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, they wanted to We had

40:02 Speaker 2: an opening for.

40:02 Speaker 9: Our show and I was like, uh, you're gonna play

40:05 Speaker 9: at the same venue the week before and then the

40:07 Speaker 9: week after.

40:08 Speaker 1: That you're playing with vin them inc. So we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll.

40:12 Speaker 2: Get together another time. You guys are oversaturated this month.

40:16 Speaker 9: So uh so they're at that stage right now where

40:18 Speaker 9: they're playing everything they can and but you know, I'm

40:21 Speaker 9: gonna be proud of them there.

40:21 Speaker 2: They made it to the next level of the Battle

40:24 Speaker 2: of the Band for Vakin.

40:25 Speaker 7: So oh yeah, it'd be awesome.

40:27 Speaker 1: They made that.

40:29 Speaker 7: That's very cool. Yeah, I didn't know about that, venam inc.

40:31 Speaker 7: I think we had that one, didn't we have them too, Jenny?

40:34 Speaker 7: Did we have Venaming on the show? I think so? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?

40:36 Speaker 7: Another uh? Another great band? But now what what? What's

40:40 Speaker 7: next for you guys? Do you have another video coming out?

40:42 Speaker 7: Or uh? Or because you haven't? You haven't done videos

40:46 Speaker 7: for all of these yet, have you? Or have you?

40:49 Speaker 9: We did videos for everything, but one song, Oh, Bury

40:53 Speaker 9: the Snake, was the the one we decided we weren't

40:56 Speaker 9: gonna do it.

40:56 Speaker 1: We're gonna you know, it's one of those if you

40:58 Speaker 1: want to hear Bury the Snake, you have to buy

41:02 Speaker 1: the record.

41:02 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, the bonus the bonus track, so to speak.

41:06 Speaker 7: Oh okay, okay, very cool. Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna

41:09 Speaker 7: play it here in a couple of minutes. I love

41:11 Speaker 7: that song. I love that song. But again, you know,

41:13 Speaker 7: I like the Kiss influence too. Kiss is my favorite band,

41:16 Speaker 7: so I appreciate the It's fun to listen to it

41:18 Speaker 7: and imagine Gene Simmons singing it was I can I

41:21 Speaker 7: can totally picture. But uh, and then are you? Are

41:24 Speaker 7: you guys already thinking about the Are you thinking about

41:26 Speaker 7: the next album yet? I imagine because you strike me

41:28 Speaker 7: as you know, you guys have a lot of ideas.

41:30 Speaker 7: I'm sure you're probably already writing stuff.

41:33 Speaker 12: Yeah, we're we're gonna we're gonna get together probably next

41:36 Speaker 12: week and start writing some new ones.

41:38 Speaker 9: Uh.

41:38 Speaker 12: I got a couple of things put together already, and

41:41 Speaker 12: uh and Jeff has some songs, I think, and we'll

41:44 Speaker 12: get together in the jam room and and start you know, uh,

41:48 Speaker 12: banging them out, uh, you know, putting the songs into shape. Uh.

41:52 Speaker 12: And then and then the vocals will come uh. Last,

41:57 Speaker 12: you know, we'll uh Todd will either have some lyrics

41:59 Speaker 12: or I'll have some lyrics, and we'll see what fits

42:02 Speaker 12: with the music, and you know, try to crank up

42:04 Speaker 12: some more songs so the metal never stops. Matt.

42:08 Speaker 7: Yeah, there you go. That's the way to do it.

42:11 Speaker 7: That's the way to do it. Where should people go online?

42:14 Speaker 7: To keep up with everything that you guys are doing.

42:17 Speaker 12: They can go to our Facebook page which is iron

42:22 Speaker 12: jaw t X, and then our band camp page is

42:29 Speaker 12: iron job at band camp dot com to get all

42:34 Speaker 12: our merch or buy music. You got shirts on there,

42:38 Speaker 12: all that sort of Thing. The album you know, came

42:41 Speaker 12: out on CD and blood Red vinyl, So that's pretty cool.

42:46 Speaker 7: Oh you did blood red vinyl. That's awesome.

42:48 Speaker 12: Yeah, I love it. Yeah, that was awesome. It looked great.

42:52 Speaker 12: So we got all that is on our band camp

42:56 Speaker 12: so people can check that out at iron job at

42:58 Speaker 12: band camp dot com.

43:00 Speaker 7: Very nice, very nice. So guys, I want to thank

43:04 Speaker 7: you both for joining us today. Of course, uh Todd

43:06 Speaker 7: Pack and Rick Perry from Iron Jaw. We're good big

43:09 Speaker 7: fans here. We're gonna close out in a moment. We're

43:11 Speaker 7: gonna play this track, Bury of the Snake, which I

43:14 Speaker 7: I do love so much. But thank you guys for

43:16 Speaker 7: for joining us. By the way, when is your for

43:18 Speaker 7: anyone who might be listening down in your area listening online?

43:21 Speaker 7: When is your next show down there? You might have

43:23 Speaker 7: mentioned it already, but let's let's remind people.

43:27 Speaker 12: The next one is gonna be this summer. We don't

43:29 Speaker 12: have a booked yet, but oh okay, we may do

43:31 Speaker 12: something before then. We're uh, we're right now, we're just

43:37 Speaker 12: writing some move materials, so yeah, yeah, but we may.

43:40 Speaker 12: We'll do a show soon, okay, okay, yeah, hopefully that's

43:44 Speaker 12: gonna be the gig.

43:45 Speaker 7: Yeah they there there you go, perfect, perfect, all right,

43:49 Speaker 7: So we're gonna let you guys go, and then we're

43:50 Speaker 7: gonna hit this track, Bury the Snake. But again, guys,

43:54 Speaker 7: thank you so much, and we will do this again

43:56 Speaker 7: as as you're releasing new music, we will will continue

43:59 Speaker 7: to do this and always love having you on. I

44:01 Speaker 7: appreciate the conversation and we love what you're doing. So

44:04 Speaker 7: thanks guys. All right, you got it. Take care, oh

44:08 Speaker 7: and stay warm. Oh yeah, all right.

44:12 Speaker 1: It'll be seventy on Monday.

44:14 Speaker 7: Oh beautiful. I wish it while it'll be forty here,

44:16 Speaker 7: which for us is gonna feel like seventy. So we're

44:19 Speaker 7: getting there, all right, guys, thank you so much, take care,

44:23 Speaker 7: Thanks man, appreciate it, all right, bye bye. All right.

44:26 Speaker 7: That is Todd Pack and Rick Perry from Iron Jaw

44:29 Speaker 7: and Uh Jenny and I will be back in a

44:31 Speaker 7: couple of minutes. But let's finish out this segment with this.

44:34 Speaker 7: I love this track so much. This is Barry the

44:36 Speaker 7: Snake and yes, allow your mind to be in the gutter.

44:39 Speaker 7: It doesn't mean what you think it means. And this

44:41 Speaker 7: is Iron Jaws. This is a great track. Check this out.

45:00 Speaker 6: Oh now I'll radle your boat. When I go right,

45:05 Speaker 6: I'll tell you can't turn ass go. It's a shirty

45:12 Speaker 6: bird little.

45:14 Speaker 3: I'm round for the white dirty crab started jumping from

45:19 Speaker 3: chop in the air.

45:22 Speaker 12: I am.

45:37 Speaker 6: Bill take all that. That's right.

45:43 Speaker 3: When I waited all night, that's right way downtown last night.

45:50 Speaker 6: Great siden see.

45:53 Speaker 1: I'm playing.

45:56 Speaker 6: Arab Also the builds.

45:59 Speaker 3: Te donning scale dot of my body on steak shop.

46:05 Speaker 3: Bessie shot a scared be out of bard Well.

46:14 Speaker 6: Saff I would tell peporace.

46:17 Speaker 3: A waiting and stopped getting gets great to come to

46:21 Speaker 3: the serpent sibrase.

46:23 Speaker 6: I just get aut of various name simetop time top time,

46:35 Speaker 6: I give out of various.

47:16 Speaker 3: From lookt you that.

47:18 Speaker 8: We've bet lolck of simpsular grace. Crawl right, how are

47:25 Speaker 8: you at the back that day job?

47:31 Speaker 13: The time is die.

47:33 Speaker 8: No hell to day durable die out of the way

47:38 Speaker 8: and tells day.

47:41 Speaker 3: Shout it's dead like Cody y'all snak shot.

47:48 Speaker 6: From the sand through the god in all that kinda stap,

47:55 Speaker 6: I would tell their grace away gets stuck.

47:58 Speaker 3: And gets greystent race get on by snake man man.

48:21 Speaker 8: Us get down read right, I'm now out away, don't

48:33 Speaker 8: be away getting up down. I'm not sir.

48:47 Speaker 7: That is Bury the Snake. The band is Iron Jaw

48:51 Speaker 7: some great Texas medal, and thank you again to Rick

48:53 Speaker 7: and Todd for joining us today on the show. I

48:55 Speaker 7: always loved talking to those guys and I love their sound.

48:57 Speaker 7: I love everything they do. I love everything that comes

49:00 Speaker 7: out of the Texas music scene there.

49:02 Speaker 13: It's crazy how much metal there is down there. Yes,

49:05 Speaker 13: you never run out of awesome talent.

49:06 Speaker 7: Well, Texas, you know it is the land of Pantera.

49:10 Speaker 7: I never thought about it that way. Yeah, so there's

49:12 Speaker 7: bound to be at a lot of good stuff.

49:13 Speaker 13: I think it's Texas.

49:14 Speaker 2: I think country.

49:15 Speaker 7: I don't think metal, and I'm wrong. I'm very wrong.

49:19 Speaker 7: A lot of metal, wrong, a lot of metal, all

49:20 Speaker 7: kinds of great music out of Texas. And by the way,

49:23 Speaker 7: speaking to great music. In just a couple of minutes,

49:25 Speaker 7: we're going to be closing out the show today with

49:27 Speaker 7: a world radio premiere the new track Confluence from Percussive Maintenance,

49:32 Speaker 7: which I'll tell you more about in a moment, but

49:35 Speaker 7: we want to Jenny, We've got a couple of things

49:37 Speaker 7: to remind people.

49:38 Speaker 13: About absolutely coming up soon is the Uncensored Underground Art

49:43 Speaker 13: Experience on March fifteenth from sixty eight pm at twenty

49:46 Speaker 13: Garden Walk here in the Queen City of Manchester. A

49:50 Speaker 13: showcase of political, provocative and other anti censorship art. Not

49:56 Speaker 13: safe for work and not suitable for all audiences, so

50:00 Speaker 13: definitely come out and see that. I'm excited to have

50:03 Speaker 13: some pieces in there and it's going to be an

50:05 Speaker 13: interesting show. And also speaking of art, the Mosaic Art

50:09 Speaker 13: Collective has extended the deadline for the art call to

50:13 Speaker 13: February twenty eighth. For moving parts and let's see animators,

50:19 Speaker 13: we want to see. You have a set from stop

50:22 Speaker 13: motion film, you want to show up, bring that in.

50:25 Speaker 13: That's perfect for our moving parts. Now have an animated film,

50:29 Speaker 13: we want to see it. Any artists that have moving

50:32 Speaker 13: elements please apply. Engineers and robotics.

50:35 Speaker 1: That's you too.

50:37 Speaker 13: If you're looking for a show and you want to

50:39 Speaker 13: come to an intrivated elements I can't speak. If you're

50:44 Speaker 13: looking to show a piece with interactive elements, our opening

50:48 Speaker 13: reception can offer a chance to see your pieces in action.

50:54 Speaker 13: If you're not sure or if you're worried about an

50:57 Speaker 13: application fee, don't worry about it. The application fee is

50:59 Speaker 13: only ten dollars, but there are scholarships available, so please

51:03 Speaker 13: don't not apply because of money.

51:05 Speaker 7: We don't want that to be a barrier.

51:07 Speaker 13: All are welcome to this art call, so please submit

51:10 Speaker 13: your work check them out at Mosaic Art Collective.

51:14 Speaker 7: Very good, very good. Well, and you want to plug

51:16 Speaker 7: your website.

51:17 Speaker 13: Too, Yeah, if you want to see some of my pieces,

51:19 Speaker 13: which actually the pieces that will be in the Uncensored

51:22 Speaker 13: are the Uncensored show from the Insurance collection. Those of

51:27 Speaker 13: you that follow me and know what goes on with healthcare,

51:31 Speaker 13: you can check me out at gencoffee dot com.

51:33 Speaker 10: J E.

51:34 Speaker 13: N N co f f ey dot com.

51:37 Speaker 7: Very good, very good. Well, before we conclude, like I said,

51:40 Speaker 7: we have one more premiere, a WMNH exclusive to present

51:45 Speaker 7: to you in a moment. But I do want to

51:47 Speaker 7: thank everyone who joined us today. Of course, so yon

51:49 Speaker 7: Man was not able to skype in due to a

51:51 Speaker 7: family emergency, but we will reschedule him. But we did

51:54 Speaker 7: open today with the American radio premiere of his new

51:56 Speaker 7: track Warmongers, which I absolutely love. You'll be hearing that

51:59 Speaker 7: again in the future. In the second hour, of course.

52:02 Speaker 7: John Denton another great UK artists, so American radio premiere

52:07 Speaker 7: of his newest track, and also Sean Manchester who joined

52:14 Speaker 7: us from who drove down from Maine. And of course

52:16 Speaker 7: we had the new Elijah Jenkins American radio premiere for

52:19 Speaker 7: Stay Tonight, and we have one more premiere and don't

52:22 Speaker 7: forget Iron Jaw. Of course, always loved talking to those

52:24 Speaker 7: guys and playing some of their I think we had

52:26 Speaker 7: already played those tracks on the show, so though that

52:28 Speaker 7: were not technically premiers, but getting to talk to them

52:31 Speaker 7: is always a great time and love those guys. Make

52:34 Speaker 7: sure you follow them online and they make great music

52:37 Speaker 7: videos too. But that music will get your blood pump,

52:39 Speaker 7: and no doubt about it. We're going to close out

52:41 Speaker 7: today we have a world radio premiere. This has not

52:44 Speaker 7: been heard on any radio station anywhere. The track dropped

52:48 Speaker 7: this week on streaming platforms, but this will be the

52:50 Speaker 7: first time on the radio. Our friend Gary Smith sent it.

52:53 Speaker 7: Gary Smith, who's in I don't know seventeen different projects.

52:56 Speaker 7: He's one of the busiest and enormously talented musicians we

53:00 Speaker 7: know we always love having him on. But the track

53:03 Speaker 7: is and this is released under his moniker Percussive Maintenance.

53:07 Speaker 7: The track is called Confluence. So this features Gary Smith

53:12 Speaker 7: of Percussive Maintenance and Fox and the Flamingos and various

53:15 Speaker 7: projects and also Aaron Cream of Leon Trout on the

53:19 Speaker 7: track as well. So we will close out Matt Connorton

53:23 Speaker 7: unleashed with this. This is a world radio premiere. If

53:26 Speaker 7: you missed any part of today's show though, it will

53:28 Speaker 7: be up in just a little bit at WM andhradio

53:30 Speaker 7: dot org at my website Matt Coonnorton dot com. And

53:35 Speaker 7: that's going to do it for us for now. We'll

53:36 Speaker 7: talk to you a little bit later.

53:37 Speaker 12: And here it is.

53:38 Speaker 7: This is the world radio premiere of Confluence.

53:42 Speaker 8: You are listening to WM ANDH.

53:46 Speaker 1: World Premiere.

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