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Speaker 7: Next b that was the American radio premiere a WMNH exclusive of the new track from Elijah Jenkins that is called stay Tonight. And we will have him on the show soon. He is a UK artist making a big impact over there. But that is the first time that track has ever been played on American radio. Here on Matt connorton Unleashed. That is stay Tonight by Elijah Jenkins. And right now we're going to play a track from our friends Iron Jaw, a great metal band from Texas who are gonna be joining us momentarily from Texas Hope in fact that's them.

Speaker 7: We're gonna bring them on in a moment. But check this out. This is Sands of Time from their newest album Cursed.

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Speaker 7: S That is Sands of Time from Iron Jaw some great metal from Texas and if that doesn't get your blood pumping on a cold Saturday morning, check your pulse, you might be dead. That was awesome. I love it. Now I feel pumped and ready to go shopping. That that is so good. And we've got Rick Perry and Todd Pack from Iron Jaw joining us via Skype. Hey guys, what's going good? Good, wonderful to speak with you. By the way, So before we talk about before we talk about the music and the album and everything, I just I want to talk about the weather because because we noticed online, Jenny brought this to my attention that a couple of days ago it was actually colder in Texas than it is here.

Speaker 7: And I don't know if that's still the case, but once it been like there. This week it's been real cold.

Speaker 12: Man. It was it was like twenty seven degrees yesterday. The wind chill was like minus two the other day. So god, it's it's pretty unusual for us.

Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's got to be brutal, because you guys aren't aren't prepared. I mean, do you even have like, do you have winter coats to wear?

Speaker 6: Or is that that?

Speaker 7: I mean, is that something anybody there even ever thinks about or what or do you just put on multiple layers or how do you deal with that kind of cold.

Speaker 1: You put on? You put on two leather jackets.

Speaker 7: There you go, right yeah, right, there you go. There you go? Whereabouts in Texas? Are you guys? Dallas, Dallas, sport Worth? Okay? Very good, very good? So so tell us about so of course, Todd Pak vocalist Rick Perry, guitarist from Iron Jaw, joining us, and I love that track Stands of Time. I also love, by the way, Ricky sent us that song which we'll we'll play later, that Bury the Snake, And you were saying in the email about how it's kind of like, you know, it's kind of like old school kissing that way.

Speaker 7: And I listened to it and I thought, you know, I can definitely imagine Gene Simmons uh singing that so great great stuff. But now these are all from the new album or the newest your newest release, Cursed, Is that correct? It's right? Yeah?

Speaker 12: We uh we We signed earlier this year with a label called No Life Till Metal Records, Okay and U and they we partnered with them and then released our our second album. Our first one was Chain at Command, which came out in twenty twenty.

Speaker 7: Yep, And.

Speaker 12: This new one just came out a couple of weeks ago, and it's getting a real good response. We played a good show here in uh Fort Worth and kicked it off, and now we're telling everyone else about it.

Speaker 7: Yeah. I think the first time we talked to you guys, I think it was a Chain of Command had come out fairly recently, or that was your newest release that was a while ago. I bet you know that the time it goes so fast it becomes a blur. But I think I think that's what we were talking about the first time we had you guys on and.

Speaker 12: And then we we talked about it when we released pyro Mancer. We talked to you that time.

Speaker 7: Yep.

Speaker 1: Okay, yep, that's right.

Speaker 7: That's right.

Speaker 12: And Pyro mansers on this album as well. It's uh, this was this album is really like a uh. Some of these songs have been released a while. It was like some singles that we've been released every few months for the past year or so, and then uh, and then a couple other ones that haven't been released yet, like Sands of Time and Bury the Snake. So uh, the Uh, it's a it's some songs that we've been working on and uh, you know, yeah, it's we're really we're real happy with the collection.

Speaker 7: Has the approach with this album been different, been different than with Chain of Command? Has has the process evolved?

Speaker 10: Or?

Speaker 7: I mean it sounds like some of these might have been recorded at different times in different studios, right from what you were saying, So I think maybe we may have Uh, well, they were all recorded.

Speaker 1: They were all recorded in Rick cut out for a second.

Speaker 7: Oh we yeah, we we lost you there for about three or four seconds. Rick, Can you repeat what you said? Uh?

Speaker 1: Oh, I'm here to hear me?

Speaker 7: Yeah, Rick, is that you.

Speaker 1: Rich? Cut out? Can you hear me?

Speaker 7: I can hear you? Todd? Yeah, all right, Well we we keep losing Rick, Rick, I have an idea. Do you want do you want to The approach wasn't oh I was. I was gonna say, Rick, do you want to call this studio line on your phone? And that way we can have Todd on Skype and you on the uh on the phone line and that'll work since you're cutting in and out. I don't know if sure.

Speaker 1: I think I think he should do that if he heard.

Speaker 7: That okay if you heard that, Yeah, Rick, the studio line is six oh three two five oh six oh oh seven. If you want to call us, maybe that would work better. Maybe your maybe your internet's being a little wonky. I don't know. I think Jenny, did you just send that to him too?

Speaker 1: Yes?

Speaker 7: I did. Okay, Jenny sent you that to Rick. I don't know if you can even hear me, but give us a call on the studio line if you want. I'll pick that up and we can uh uh that way we can continue. Yeah, Skype is not uh I'll tell you. I'll tell you what. It's gotten a lot better than it used to be Skype.

Speaker 1: But I can answer your question.

Speaker 7: I think, yeah, go ahead, Todd. Yeah.

Speaker 1: They were all done in the same studio.

Speaker 9: We just we just we recorded the drums in our rehearsal studio and we had our guy who mixed it and engineered it do that, and then we all the guitar, all the vocals, all that stuff is done at my house, and then we released a song. As we were done with the song, we'd release it and then I would shoot a video for it, and then we would do a whole video and we release it that way, So we released things, you know, every two or three or four months.

Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting that we you know, we live in a time where, yeah, there's so many different approaches you can take as far as releasing music. You know, there was a time when it was pretty standard. You know, you release an album and maybe the first single goes to radio six to eight weeks before the album's coming out, and then the album comes out, and then the second single and then maybe the third single.

Speaker 12: You know.

Speaker 7: Now it's like there's so many different ways you can do it because of the Internet, because of social media, and a lot of artists now are using the you know, they call it the waterfall approach, where you release a series of singles and then an album. And I think we have Rick on the phone. Rick, is that you. Yeah, Yeah, okay, welcome back. Excellent, excellent, Okay, so now we're all we're all together again. We're all good.

Speaker 13: Sorry about that.

Speaker 7: Uh, you know, that's okay.

Speaker 12: The Skype three way didn't didn't work as plan.

Speaker 7: Yeah, well, technology will fail us at times. That is uh, that is a factive life. No, but this works. This works now, you guys too. So Todd, you referred to videos. You guys have made. How many music videos do you guys have? It seems like you've made quite a few at this point.

Speaker 1: Oh, we have a ton we've done. I shot six, No. Five, five of the last six videos. This is a seventh song album. I did five of the last six one of them. One of them.

Speaker 9: We had somebody else to actually just use some footage that a guy had to get out to get our first video out for this album, which was Tonight we raid. We used some live footage and then through a bunch of bombs and airplanes and you know, on the standard, the standard, good old metal stuff in there because it was appropriate. Yeah, And then I shot all the rest of those myself and edited when it was nice. Like you said, you kind of did the I didn't know how to name, but good. The waterfall effect was great because we could do a video, release it, and then whenever we were ready we could do the next one.

Speaker 9: We could do one at a time instead of kind of like you know, putting everything out there all at once, and then you don't that's it. You don't hear from us again for five years. Right, we were We've been in your we've been in your faith.

Speaker 1: For the last two years.

Speaker 7: You know, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think it's I think it's so important. Uh in the era that we live in too. You know, you got to kind of feed that machine. And yeah, like you said, you know, being people's uh faces and uh, Rick, is that is that kind of how the way you think about it too? The way Todd does in terms of strategy.

Speaker 12: Yeah, just uh that way there's always something new coming out and uh instead of blowing your whole creative wand so to speak at one time, Uh, you know, you you prolong the pleasure.

Speaker 7: I suppose, well, well put Yeah, the videos, So Todd, you shoot all those I.

Speaker 1: Shot a lot of them.

Speaker 9: Yeah, probably the last the last five or so. We did our We did all those ourselves.

Speaker 7: That's awesome. Yeah, that's that's fantastic. It's funny too, because some people don't realize. In fact, I was having a conversation with someone last night about this. Some people think that music videos because MTV obviously doesn't play them anymore and hasn't for a long time. I'm sure they have a show where they might play some but but but but yeah, probably not. But people a lot of people have a perception that music videos are dead, that the art of the music video is dead. And I I told the person I was talking with, I said, well, actually there's more music videos than ever because of YouTube, and you know, now, uh, there's there's more, you know, you know, and and there's some artists, you know, major artists who have just you know, a gazillion dollars, who if they have an album that's coming out, they'll actually make I know, Beyonce has done this where there was an album where she had a video, a high budget video for every single track on the album, not just the singles.

Speaker 7: You know, she just went all out, which must be nice to have the money to do that. But but it really is such a crucial marketing tool now now more than it's ever been. I would argue, yeah, I you know, we.

Speaker 12: Wanted to put a video out for every song because it's just the best way to get people's attention on social media, you know, on Facebook and Instagram, and there's all sorts of avenues you can use the videos with. And uh. And so when we first put up our first album, Chain of Command, we did the we got someone to shoot the first video for us. But you know, it was it was about five hundred bucks, and uh, that's a lot of money for a unsigned local band. So we had to try to figure out a different way of doing it, and luckily Todd stepped up to the plate and figured out how to do it on his phone.

Speaker 12: And so we like doing things do it yourself. That way, you can put your own creativity into it, keep it low budget, but still make it look cool. So I think that's a lot more creative way of doing it. We recorded the album that way. Also, we recorded the album completely ourselves and just send it to our engineer guy.

Speaker 7: To mix it all.

Speaker 12: Okay, We try to keep it in house as much as possible. That way, we can put our own creativity into it. That way, we can redo it as many times do we want to, if we want to, you know, get it just right the way we want it. And it's worked out good so far.

Speaker 7: Yeah, that's excellent. Yeah, I mean, it's it's remarkable too to live in a time where we have the technology to do these kinds of things, and it does it allows you to have control, really complete control over what you're putting out and how you're presenting yourselves, and and it's it's a great time to be alive in that sense. Really, I mean, it's it's really ar Yeah.

Speaker 12: In the old days, you know, Matt, the major labels were like the gatekeepers, and they were the ones who decided what bands would be uh uh, you know, recorded and have releases out and promoted to the people. So there weren't that really that many bands. Now it's much easier. Almost anyone can do it, So it's way easy to get your your stuff out there. It's just there's a lot more other bands to compete with. So that's the challenge now is just becoming getting yourself noticed. But we just focus on what we think is good quality songs and you know, iroon John is just pure metal with no gimmicks.

Speaker 12: You know, it's just solid metal that's based on good songwriting, I think, and uh and that's what we hope people will pick up on. And eventually by putting out songs every couple of months on a video accompanying it, we're hoping that people will eventually start noticing it. And it seems like they're starting to.

Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Todd, you had started to say something as well.

Speaker 9: Well, you didn't mention the you know, the ability the technology these days and I was like, it's you know, it's a may II we did.

Speaker 1: We filmed all that on my phone.

Speaker 9: Yeah, all our videos that I shot, we actually just filmed it on my phone, and then I edited it on the most basic iMovie program you can imagine.

Speaker 1: And at first I didn't think I could do it.

Speaker 9: I even at one point I remember a couple of two or three years ago for an old video we did for a ride Free or Die from our first record during the pandemic, I was like, dude, I can't do this. I just don't have the ability. And then I kind of took a break and I came back to it and I figured it out, and I did it on iMovie, you know, which is like it's basically iMovie is kind of like your home video that you put some music in the background of your kids at Christmas, right technology.

Speaker 2: But I figured it out, and so then I was able to pump out a bunch of videos for us.

Speaker 9: Yeah, and you know you mentioned Beyonce did it, but but really I took the idea from more from Metallica.

Speaker 2: Because Metallica released their last two records, they did the same thing.

Speaker 9: They had a video for damn near every song yeah, and a lot of and a lot of them they just shot in their own home studio, which you know they called the headquarters because it's I'm sure it's a massive, you know, compound somewhere right, And they shot all those in the same room almost and they and you can tell they just changed close changed lighting, and so I kind of we kind of went with that method, you know, were we shot a lot.

Speaker 1: Of it in the same room.

Speaker 9: We just we just rearranged the room and got created with the backgrounds and stuff.

Speaker 1: So we kind of did that. Took I took it more from Metallica than than Beyonce.

Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah to her, she won, she won Country Album of the Year, so whatever.

Speaker 7: Sure, sure, yeah, you can't argue with success. But yeah, I assume the place and the Metallica videos where they shot those, I assume it's the same place that you see in the documentary some kind of Monster. Yeah, it looks like it's there.

Speaker 9: It's there what they call their headquarters, Yeah, which is what we should call our rehearsal room, the headquarters.

Speaker 1: You know, you know, it's a big as placement, you call it your headquarters.

Speaker 7: It's not just for the jam, Yeah, exactly, a compound. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now that it's cool though, that you're able to and that you know and that you're willing to learn the technology too. I think a lot of artists who you know, especially artists who who have been around for a while, maybe maybe you are a little older, who are resistant to the technology. Part of that is just people being technophobic generally. You know, people are are Some people get nervous around you know, can can I learn this?

Speaker 7: Do I have the ability to learn this? And and then, But very often if you challenge yourself to do it, and you really dive in and do it, at the end of the process you say, Okay, that wasn't so bad. I was able to learn that, and it's it's good for your it's good for your brain too. Always I totally agree.

Speaker 9: I had that problem because I had to learn how to first just record my own vocals. And I did that from when I was in a previous band, because I got tired of going into a studio over the weekend and that be the final product.

Speaker 1: That's it. You're done. If you don't like it too bad, pay me some more if you want to fix it.

Speaker 2: So I got to the point where I got to learn how to do this on my own.

Speaker 9: So, I mean, I can't tell you how long it took me just to hook up the microphone and get it to work right, really, you know, just that probably.

Speaker 1: Then I had to learn how to do guitars. Then I had to learn how to do videos, and I did it all.

Speaker 2: And I'm not a technically proficient person so to speak.

Speaker 9: I mean, I'm a drummer at heart, so I usually just you know, tighten down the tight down the drumshell on the stand.

Speaker 1: And I have no you know, and I have nothing to plug in. I have no red, yellow, green wires or anything like that to.

Speaker 9: Plug in for thirty years, so I was never what I would call technically proficient, but I figured it out.

Speaker 7: Yeah, well, but that's a good that's a good lesson too for people and for people who maybe are intimidated by the technology. You say, not technically proficient. But what I think a lot of people don't realize is, you know, these technologies are designed for people who aren't necessary arly technically proficient. You just got to be you just got to be able to, you know, willing to put your head down and just learn. But but you don't have to be some sort of technical wizard to use these tools. And I think that's something people who are intimidated don't realize.

Speaker 7: But if you can learn that, yeah, yeah, there you go, there you go. The videos all too, I mean, yeah, they look you know, they look cool, and they look you know, they're they're competitive with what else is out there? So what's what's the scene like there for you guys? I know, and I think we've talked about it before. My impression is that the Dallas metal scene is is really good. That there's there's really good places to play, and there's a lot of great bands there is that Is that still the case?

Speaker 12: I would say there's a lot of there's there's a decent amount of places to play. We're we're actually in fort Worth, uh okay, you know, right next to Dallas. So yeah, there's play is playing fort Worth and Dallas. Uh you know, probably about four or five really good venues in each each town I would say to play at. Yeah, and probably a lot of other smaller ones. Yeah, but there's some there's plenty of good there's shows every weekend, I mean tons of shows. So yeah, national acts and local bands. I mean it's it's a pretty healthy scene and there's a lot of good bands, a lot of different kinds of metal.

Speaker 12: We kind of stand out a little bit because a lot of the bands are more modern style, and Iron Jaw kind of hearkens back to, I think, a more classic metal style. But even so, you know, we'll play with anybody. We'll do shows with death metal bands or sure, you know, rock and roll bands.

Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean your sound is is a little more classic metal, but it also is very but I think I think it's a little more aggressive, heavier than a lot of a lot of a lot of that stuff, you know, in terms of production on what you want that Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you.

Speaker 9: Know, I think you have even if you have these days, because of just the way technology is, even if you have that approach, you know, the old school style, just the way things sound so good these days, it makes it sound a little more modern than its actual intent, just because it sounds so clean and so crisp, just from you know, people's home studios.

Speaker 1: I think that adds to the I'm glad you say that, because I'm glad.

Speaker 9: We kind of have a little bit of a modern feel and not you know, that because you remember old school production it was.

Speaker 1: It was horrible.

Speaker 9: It kind of even I think it made metal struggle a little bit because people didn't.

Speaker 1: Know how to record metal back in the eighties.

Speaker 9: So well, and you have a really fast band like can Thrash or any of that sounded so bad and you're like, those are good riffs. It's just there's no way I could convince my buddy to listen to this because it just sounds horrible. Right, He doesn't understand musicianship. He just goes that sounds like I don't know if I can cut.

Speaker 7: Sorry, no, but we're on a delay. I caught it.

Speaker 2: Sorry, that's okay, Alright, I'm gonna say something earlier too, and.

Speaker 7: I was like, that's all right, it happens. No, we're on a delay. It's all good. But uh but yeah no, And I think to your point, yeah, that's true. People didn't know how to record metal. And although that that doesn't always uh preclude success. I mean, you look at and Justice for All you know, uh, which was you know, such a huge album for the really the biggest band, you know, not just biggest metal band, but the biggest band in the world Metallica and I I think that out. I mean, it sounds terrible, but they put it out and and it worked.

Speaker 7: It just works, So you never know. But I think, but I think you're right. I think I think the trick is if you if the production is really good, then even if it's something that maybe harkens back to a different time, as long as the production is really good and really strong and loud and aggressive, it's going to have a certain timelessness to it. And and I think you guys have captured that. I think there's something timeless about you know, a track like Sands of Time. It's you know, you can listen to that in any era and it's it just sounds really really good.

Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Sands of Time. Sands of Time was the song that got me hooked on the band.

Speaker 2: It was the song that he first that Rick first presented to me.

Speaker 7: Oh okay, I was and I was like, that's a great song.

Speaker 1: And they had previously recorded it with their old singer Yea.

Speaker 9: The song's been around for a minute and finally finally made it on a record, But uh, that was the song that hooked me, and it's still it's still one of the coolest songs out of the counterlog.

Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, I love that. I love that.

Speaker 12: Yeah, we would have, we would have put it on the first album, but we we just actually kind of ran out of time, and uh so we just said, okay, well we'll save it for another time, and you know, the Sands of Time eventually caught up to us.

Speaker 7: So yeah, there you go, there you go. I love the solo on that too. I don't know if we've talked about this before, Rick, when you've been on the show, but who are your influences as a guitar player. I'm really curious because I love your solos.

Speaker 12: Uh well, first of all, there's two two lead guitar players and Iron John, myself and Brown. The solo in in the Sands of Time, for example, I do the first one at the very beginning of the song, and then later on in the song it starts off with Jeff and it goes to me and then it goes back to Jeff.

Speaker 7: I love that. I love that approach. It gives it, It gives a texture, you know, when they would two guitars going back and forth.

Speaker 9: It that.

Speaker 7: That's really cool.

Speaker 12: Yeah, Rick, Rick, I love Judis Priest and of course and Slayer and bands like that that have two lead guitar players because uh, it's it becomes like a a dialogue between two uh performances. You know, like there's a one guitar player will have his solo and then another guitar player will have their response to that almost and it becomes almost like a dialogue. And uh that that's pretty much the influence for uh me as a guitar players. You know, Judas Priest and uh and also I love Angus Young of a C D C and uh Ted Nugent you know from the seventies.

Speaker 12: I love Ted Nugent. Ace freely is a big influence on on me for lead guitar. Yes, so just I like uh, I like the solo too kind of say something and kind of be like a song within the song.

Speaker 3: You know.

Speaker 12: Yeah, it should it should be memorable and you should be able to uh you know remember the key key little phrases in there.

Speaker 7: Uh. Do you guys have a lot of songs where you and Jeff trade off like that? Or is or is that unusual?

Speaker 3: Uh?

Speaker 12: About half of them? Probably cool? Uh? We we you do trade offs or or maybe I'll do a lead section in the beginning and he'll do one at the end or something like that. Okay, some sol as he does all by himself, some I d all by myself. We just we bury it up. Yeah, And I think it makes it more interesting for the the listener and also the people who come see us live, because you know, you're looking back and forth. Now he's playing, Now this guy's playing. It makes it more interesting, I think.

Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, I'd love to see you guys live. Are you We talked a little bit about the scene there. Are you guys playing out a lot? Are you doing? Are you doing shows every week or what? What's what? What's it like for you guys? How active have you been?

Speaker 12: We're uh, well we uh go ahead, Todd.

Speaker 9: Yeah, we don't play out as that much anymore. We we play more selective shows. Yeah, you know, because people aren't gonna come see every week. They're not gonna even come see every month, so you know, every every couple of months, I mean, like this.

Speaker 2: Year, we have one potential show that might be Uh.

Speaker 9: What's funny is I'm looking at old footage of you from last week, I think, and you're wearing a warhog shirt.

Speaker 7: Oh, I'm wearing a warhog shirt. Right now?

Speaker 1: Is that is that current?

Speaker 7: But I'm looking at Oh we love Warhog, Yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9: They're locals the virus. They're local buddies of virus. As matter of fact, I've been going back and forth with them. We're trying to line up our next show with them.

Speaker 7: Oh that's awesome. Yeah, Oh that's what it looks like.

Speaker 1: And Rick doesn't even know this yet.

Speaker 2: It looks like the date we've set they might be headed to.

Speaker 9: They're doing a battle of the bands from Voking thing, okay, and so it looks like they made it to the next round. So it looks like the show we're gonna have to change dates on. But yeah, our next show in the middle of the summer might.

Speaker 13: Be with them.

Speaker 1: I mean, we might book something in between that.

Speaker 9: But we try not to overplay or oversaturate it, you know, because you know, people who are into this stuff are a little older. They're not going to go every week to see you play like when you were twenty one, and they didn't give a damn.

Speaker 2: They're out, they're there, they're into it, they're staying till the end.

Speaker 1: That doesn't happen anymore, right right.

Speaker 12: Yeah, war When we first started, when we When we first started as a band, uh you know, which was I guess around twenty eighteen something like that, we played out everywhere we could, you know, maybe two or three times a month sometimes. Yeah, but now most of the metal fans here in DFW know who we are, and uh yeah, like Todd says, we kind of space it out and try to make it a really special gig and you know, choose the venue and the play and other bands we're gonna play with, and try to put together a good package and uh uh and do it that way.

Speaker 12: Either that or if something comes along where we have a chance to open up for a national act, we'll take that too, because that'll be a good chance for us to plan for some new people.

Speaker 7: Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 7: I so I don't play anymore, but I used to play in bands, and I do know, I am very familiar with the grind of when you're in that mode where you're just trying to play every show you possibly can, and when you're younger and you have less responsibilities, it's it's a little easier.

Speaker 1: To do that.

Speaker 7: But then but but you know, so part of it too, not just not just getting older and you have more responsibilities, and you have to use your time, you know, you have to kind of pick and choose what you're doing with your time. But also, as technology, which is a consistent theme of course with these conversations, as technology has evolved, people have so many more options now for what they do with their time. And and and you're right, you know, people aren't necessarily going to come out and see you, even if they're your biggest fan, They're not necessarily going to come out and see you every single weekend.

Speaker 7: So so at a certain point, you know, being more selective about what you're doing, I think is a sound strategy.

Speaker 12: Yeah. We we could play out every week, you know, if we wanted to, and uh, you know it, even though we have day jobs and you know, other responsibilities, we could still do it. But you know, we just really choose not to. Just we try to make it a little more special by spacing it out some.

Speaker 7: Yeah, now that makes sense, have you guys?

Speaker 12: We wish we could. We'd love to go out there to play in Massachusetts though. That would be awesome.

Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, it'd be What would be really cool is if you and Warhog went on tour together and you and that'd be so cool.

Speaker 12: Uh, but is there is there are there any metal festivals up there in that part of the country.

Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm trying to think of.

Speaker 12: Though, the Maryland Metal fest.

Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm trying to think of what might be coming up.

Speaker 1: The thing.

Speaker 7: The thing with festivals, you know, a lot of them have come and gone over the years, especially over the last few years as touring has become harder for for a lot of people. I'm trying to think of what's what might be even coming up this u like the summer or something. But I don't know, I'm kind of I'm kind of drawing a blank. I have to think on that. But yeah, maybe there might be something going on up here. Maybe you guys could get up to sometimes. Who knows that would be That would be very very cool.

Speaker 1: We can we stay at your house?

Speaker 7: I don't know. Well, I'll tell you what. So we yeah, we'll we'll put you in uh, we'll put you in the room with DJ Reckless yep, a little bit of a but uh, but we'll we'll put you We have a we have a he works at a country station. You'd love him. But there you go, there you go?

Speaker 12: Now what so Matt so so, Matt how did you, uh, how did Warhog come on to your radar?

Speaker 7: I was trying to figure out as we were talking who we met. So Mike Woolsey is that Jenny?

Speaker 6: Is that how how we started it all?

Speaker 7: He started it all as far as Taxi, right.

Speaker 9: I remember you guys having that conversation the last time you spoke to Rick a year or two.

Speaker 12: Yeah, he was in a band called uh moon Falling at the time, I think, or uh.

Speaker 1: Moon Fallen is his current band.

Speaker 12: Yep, yeah, Okay, he was in a different band back then, but he told you about us, and that's how, uh you we got in touch. Is it the same thing with the Warhog?

Speaker 7: I believe so, yeah, I think. Yeah, Mike, Mike.

Speaker 12: Woosley, he's a one man promotion machine.

Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, Mike's that guy.

Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, No, he sends me awesome artists. Yeah, he's great. And yeah, everyone everyone he's sent us. We've been very happy about and grateful for you guys and Warhog and and there's been others from Texas that we've talked to. And that's why too, I'm so interested in the scene there because it's just there's a lot of great music coming out of that area, no doubt about it. So really really digging that.

Speaker 12: But very similar to us Massachusetts.

Speaker 9: Well, I was gonna say, Warhol is very similar to us. And they're constantly putting That's how they caught my eye, and that's I was like. I was like, man, we need to we need to get together with these guys and do some shows. And we keep trying to do it, and you know, maybe, like I said, this summer, but they're very similar to us where they they're always producing content. You know, yeah, they're always putting something out every few months and completely promoting in there.

Speaker 1: Those those guys play constantly.

Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, they wanted to We had an opening for.

Speaker 9: Our show and I was like, uh, you're gonna play at the same venue the week before and then the week after.

Speaker 1: That you're playing with vin them inc. So we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll.

Speaker 2: Get together another time. You guys are oversaturated this month.

Speaker 9: So uh so they're at that stage right now where they're playing everything they can and but you know, I'm gonna be proud of them there.

Speaker 2: They made it to the next level of the Battle of the Band for Vakin.

Speaker 7: So oh yeah, it'd be awesome.

Speaker 1: They made that.

Speaker 7: That's very cool. Yeah, I didn't know about that, venam inc. I think we had that one, didn't we have them too, Jenny? Did we have Venaming on the show? I think so? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Another uh? Another great band? But now what what? What's next for you guys? Do you have another video coming out? Or uh? Or because you haven't? You haven't done videos for all of these yet, have you? Or have you?

Speaker 9: We did videos for everything, but one song, Oh, Bury the Snake, was the the one we decided we weren't gonna do it.

Speaker 1: We're gonna you know, it's one of those if you want to hear Bury the Snake, you have to buy the record.

Speaker 2: Okay, okay, the bonus the bonus track, so to speak.

Speaker 7: Oh okay, okay, very cool. Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna play it here in a couple of minutes. I love that song. I love that song. But again, you know, I like the Kiss influence too. Kiss is my favorite band, so I appreciate the It's fun to listen to it and imagine Gene Simmons singing it was I can I can totally picture. But uh, and then are you? Are you guys already thinking about the Are you thinking about the next album yet? I imagine because you strike me as you know, you guys have a lot of ideas.

Speaker 7: I'm sure you're probably already writing stuff.

Speaker 12: Yeah, we're we're gonna we're gonna get together probably next week and start writing some new ones.

Speaker 9: Uh.

Speaker 12: I got a couple of things put together already, and uh and Jeff has some songs, I think, and we'll get together in the jam room and and start you know, uh, banging them out, uh, you know, putting the songs into shape. Uh. And then and then the vocals will come uh. Last, you know, we'll uh Todd will either have some lyrics or I'll have some lyrics, and we'll see what fits with the music, and you know, try to crank up some more songs so the metal never stops. Matt.

Speaker 7: Yeah, there you go. That's the way to do it. That's the way to do it. Where should people go online? To keep up with everything that you guys are doing.

Speaker 12: They can go to our Facebook page which is iron jaw t X, and then our band camp page is

Speaker 12: iron job at band camp dot com to get all our merch or buy music. You got shirts on there, all that sort of Thing. The album you know, came out on CD and blood Red vinyl, So that's pretty cool.

Speaker 7: Oh you did blood red vinyl. That's awesome.

Speaker 12: Yeah, I love it. Yeah, that was awesome. It looked great. So we got all that is on our band camp so people can check that out at iron job at band camp dot com.

Speaker 7: Very nice, very nice. So guys, I want to thank you both for joining us today. Of course, uh Todd Pack and Rick Perry from Iron Jaw. We're good big fans here. We're gonna close out in a moment. We're gonna play this track, Bury of the Snake, which I I do love so much. But thank you guys for for joining us. By the way, when is your for anyone who might be listening down in your area listening online? When is your next show down there? You might have mentioned it already, but let's let's remind people.

Speaker 12: The next one is gonna be this summer. We don't have a booked yet, but oh okay, we may do something before then. We're uh, we're right now, we're just writing some move materials, so yeah, yeah, but we may. We'll do a show soon, okay, okay, yeah, hopefully that's gonna be the gig.

Speaker 7: Yeah they there there you go, perfect, perfect, all right, So we're gonna let you guys go, and then we're gonna hit this track, Bury the Snake. But again, guys, thank you so much, and we will do this again as as you're releasing new music, we will will continue to do this and always love having you on. I appreciate the conversation and we love what you're doing. So thanks guys. All right, you got it. Take care, oh and stay warm. Oh yeah, all right.

Speaker 1: It'll be seventy on Monday.

Speaker 7: Oh beautiful. I wish it while it'll be forty here, which for us is gonna feel like seventy. So we're getting there, all right, guys, thank you so much, take care, Thanks man, appreciate it, all right, bye bye. All right. That is Todd Pack and Rick Perry from Iron Jaw and Uh Jenny and I will be back in a couple of minutes. But let's finish out this segment with this. I love this track so much. This is Barry the Snake and yes, allow your mind to be in the gutter. It doesn't mean what you think it means.

Speaker 7: And this is Iron Jaws. This is a great track. Check this out.

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Speaker 7: That is Bury the Snake. The band is Iron Jaw some great Texas medal, and thank you again to Rick and Todd for joining us today on the show. I always loved talking to those guys and I love their sound. I love everything they do. I love everything that comes out of the Texas music scene there.

Speaker 13: It's crazy how much metal there is down there. Yes, you never run out of awesome talent.

Speaker 7: Well, Texas, you know it is the land of Pantera. I never thought about it that way. Yeah, so there's bound to be at a lot of good stuff.

Speaker 13: I think it's Texas.

Speaker 2: I think country.

Speaker 7: I don't think metal, and I'm wrong. I'm very wrong. A lot of metal, wrong, a lot of metal, all kinds of great music out of Texas. And by the way, speaking to great music. In just a couple of minutes, we're going to be closing out the show today with a world radio premiere the new track Confluence from Percussive Maintenance, which I'll tell you more about in a moment, but we want to Jenny, We've got a couple of things to remind people.

Speaker 13: About absolutely coming up soon is the Uncensored Underground Art Experience on March fifteenth from sixty eight pm at twenty Garden Walk here in the Queen City of Manchester. A showcase of political, provocative and other anti censorship art. Not safe for work and not suitable for all audiences, so definitely come out and see that. I'm excited to have some pieces in there and it's going to be an interesting show. And also speaking of art, the Mosaic Art Collective has extended the deadline for the art call to February twenty eighth.

Speaker 13: For moving parts and let's see animators, we want to see. You have a set from stop motion film, you want to show up, bring that in. That's perfect for our moving parts. Now have an animated film, we want to see it. Any artists that have moving elements please apply. Engineers and robotics.

Speaker 1: That's you too.

Speaker 13: If you're looking for a show and you want to come to an intrivated elements I can't speak. If you're looking to show a piece with interactive elements, our opening reception can offer a chance to see your pieces in action. If you're not sure or if you're worried about an application fee, don't worry about it. The application fee is only ten dollars, but there are scholarships available, so please don't not apply because of money.

Speaker 7: We don't want that to be a barrier.

Speaker 13: All are welcome to this art call, so please submit your work check them out at Mosaic Art Collective.

Speaker 7: Very good, very good. Well, and you want to plug your website.

Speaker 13: Too, Yeah, if you want to see some of my pieces, which actually the pieces that will be in the Uncensored are the Uncensored show from the Insurance collection. Those of you that follow me and know what goes on with healthcare, you can check me out at gencoffee dot com.

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Speaker 7: Very good, very good. Well, before we conclude, like I said, we have one more premiere, a WMNH exclusive to present to you in a moment. But I do want to thank everyone who joined us today. Of course, so yon Man was not able to skype in due to a family emergency, but we will reschedule him. But we did open today with the American radio premiere of his new track Warmongers, which I absolutely love. You'll be hearing that again in the future. In the second hour, of course. John Denton another great UK artists, so American radio premiere of his newest track, and also Sean Manchester who joined us from who drove down from Maine.

Speaker 7: And of course we had the new Elijah Jenkins American radio premiere for Stay Tonight, and we have one more premiere and don't forget Iron Jaw. Of course, always loved talking to those guys and playing some of their I think we had already played those tracks on the show, so though that were not technically premiers, but getting to talk to them is always a great time and love those guys. Make sure you follow them online and they make great music videos too. But that music will get your blood pump, and no doubt about it.

Speaker 7: We're going to close out today we have a world radio premiere. This has not been heard on any radio station anywhere. The track dropped this week on streaming platforms, but this will be the first time on the radio. Our friend Gary Smith sent it. Gary Smith, who's in I don't know seventeen different projects. He's one of the busiest and enormously talented musicians we know we always love having him on. But the track is and this is released under his moniker Percussive Maintenance. The track is called Confluence.

Speaker 7: So this features Gary Smith of Percussive Maintenance and Fox and the Flamingos and various projects and also Aaron Cream of Leon Trout on the track as well. So we will close out Matt Connorton unleashed with this. This is a world radio premiere. If you missed any part of today's show though, it will be up in just a little bit at WM andhradio dot org at my website Matt Coonnorton dot com. And that's going to do it for us for now. We'll talk to you a little bit later.

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