Matt Connarton Unleashed: Say Drake!

0:00 Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of amazing concerts, we should talk

0:05 Speaker 1: about So, you know, obviously for the past I don't know,

0:09 Speaker 1: almost a year and a half, you know, we don't

0:11 Speaker 1: do politics on the show anymore, but we might have

0:13 Speaker 1: another subject we can discuss that is not really not political,

0:16 Speaker 1: but we'll still make some people angry, which is fun.

0:21 Speaker 1: Very divisive issue is the surprisingly the Super Bowl halftime show.

0:28 Speaker 2: You like, one of the very few people that was like,

0:30 Speaker 2: why are you guys? Upset?

0:32 Speaker 1: Like I don't, I know, Well, my post on social

0:36 Speaker 1: media that night, Wow, yeah, I said, I'm trying to

0:41 Speaker 1: remember verbadeh what I wrote. I said, are Jenny and

0:44 Speaker 1: I the only white people our age who actually enjoyed

0:48 Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar's halftime performance, Because from what I'm seeing on

0:52 Speaker 1: social media, a lot of you would have preferred they

0:53 Speaker 1: wheeled out Grand Funk Railroad or something, and and.

0:57 Speaker 2: I don't get that, And I mean, I really don't.

1:00 Speaker 3: We were sitting there watching it, and one of my

1:02 Speaker 3: first reactions was I loved the dancers.

1:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, oh, that's awesome.

1:08 Speaker 3: They're not a bunch of scandily clad women like they

1:10 Speaker 3: got some. I loved the dancers I loved the way

1:13 Speaker 3: they were dressed. I loved the American theme. I loved

1:17 Speaker 3: the the just the whole sequence of the way they

1:20 Speaker 3: were dancing and how they were floating across the stage,

1:23 Speaker 3: and I thought it was so odd. I really loved it.

1:27 Speaker 3: I enjoyed it.

1:28 Speaker 1: Samuel L. Jackson as Uncle Sam seriously perfect, right, which

1:32 Speaker 1: I'm sure bothered some people. Why, well we know why.

1:35 Speaker 1: But I thought it was cool. But I thought it

1:39 Speaker 1: was pretty cool.

1:40 Speaker 3: No, I love it, And I loved how you called

1:42 Speaker 3: out the world too, don't be too get.

1:45 Speaker 1: Us and by the way, too loud, and by the way,

1:48 Speaker 1: I do want to clear up one thing, though I

1:51 Speaker 1: didn't mean any in my post. I didn't mean any

1:53 Speaker 1: disrespect to Grand Funk Railroad. I hope no one takes

1:56 Speaker 1: that wrong. I mean, look, I was, They're an American band,

1:59 Speaker 1: They're coming to your they'll help you party down. They're

2:01 Speaker 1: an American band, So not disrespect. I just uh no.

2:04 Speaker 1: But but actually, so it turns out though there are

2:08 Speaker 1: quite a few uh just looking at the responses to

2:11 Speaker 1: my posts, there are quite a few white people our

2:12 Speaker 1: age and older who did, in fact enjoy Kendrick Lamar's performance,

2:16 Speaker 1: but but a lot of people, a lot of people

2:19 Speaker 1: didn't be you know, some people, uh just don't like

2:23 Speaker 1: hip hop, which is fine, you know, it's okay to

2:26 Speaker 1: not like hip hop. But some people got got really

2:29 Speaker 1: carried away when some people go so over the top

2:32 Speaker 1: with their criticism and that they're like, oh, it was

2:34 Speaker 1: a political statement and that, which which, by the way,

2:36 Speaker 1: it was not. It's certainly not overtly in my mind. No,

2:39 Speaker 1: you know, you can, you can read into it whatever

2:41 Speaker 1: you want to. But I mean, really a little bit.

2:44 Speaker 3: I think people missed the missed the punchline in part

2:47 Speaker 3: with Serena Williams. Yeah, it's not just that she's an

2:51 Speaker 3: ex of Drake. Yeah, her doing a kriv walk was

2:54 Speaker 3: a big deal because when she was at Wembley when

2:58 Speaker 3: she won goal, she did that and was absolutely poo

3:03 Speaker 3: pooed on across.

3:05 Speaker 2: People were mad.

3:06 Speaker 1: Everybody was, how dare she do that kind of dance?

3:10 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you.

3:11 Speaker 3: Know when they do it in the end zone and

3:13 Speaker 3: football is fine, but you know she did, she did

3:16 Speaker 3: a happy dance for winning it. They were just all

3:19 Speaker 3: over her. So her I think her doing that was

3:22 Speaker 3: more than just I'm Drake's ex. It was taking back

3:26 Speaker 3: her power as a woman as doing what she did, saying, yeah,

3:29 Speaker 3: I I earned every bit of the.

3:33 Speaker 2: Respect that I should have. She did. She's an amazing athlete.

3:36 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. I don't know if it is okay to

3:38 Speaker 1: do that in the end zone in football? Can you?

3:40 Speaker 1: I dance? Isn't that? Isn't that against the rules? I

3:43 Speaker 1: thought they had dancing. I don't know. Touchdown I think

3:48 Speaker 1: they somebody, somebody in the chat room can tell us.

3:51 Speaker 1: I might be wrong.

3:52 Speaker 2: I thought they were allowed to do like the victory

3:54 Speaker 2: dance when they score a touchdown.

3:55 Speaker 1: I don't think I think that's considered a show voting

3:58 Speaker 1: or something. I don't think we're supposed to do that

3:59 Speaker 1: portball sportsmanship. I might be wrong. I might be completely wrong.

4:02 Speaker 3: I think football is kind of the birthplace of the

4:06 Speaker 3: and the touchdown down.

4:08 Speaker 1: Jenny and I are not We are not fans of

4:10 Speaker 1: sports ball, so we could be wrong about these things.

4:14 Speaker 1: Just to clarify for people, we didn't. It's not like

4:16 Speaker 1: we actually sat and watched the Super Bowl. We were not.

4:20 Speaker 1: We we just we just went back and watched the

4:22 Speaker 1: halftime show later. And yeah, I'm not a football were

4:26 Speaker 1: we really enjoyed it? You know a lot of people

4:29 Speaker 1: just don't. If you don't like hip hop, then you're

4:31 Speaker 1: you're not gonna like it. And that's fine. You're allowed

4:33 Speaker 1: not to like. And I like hip hop, Yeah, I

4:35 Speaker 1: do too.

4:36 Speaker 3: I like almost all genres of music. The one genre

4:40 Speaker 3: I'm not a particular fan of I'm not gonna say

4:44 Speaker 3: because I respect all the artists and everything. They're coming

4:46 Speaker 3: here and and really it's different when it's live. Let

4:50 Speaker 3: me just say, oh, but huge difference. But I I

4:55 Speaker 3: loved the sequencing. I like how they blended into each.

4:58 Speaker 1: Song, you know, and it all built to something. Oh,

5:02 Speaker 1: it built which will, which will, which we'll talk about

5:04 Speaker 1: in a second. But Nathan Hill, who's in the chat room,

5:07 Speaker 1: who's a very talented musician, he's gonna be coming on

5:09 Speaker 1: the show soon, really looking forward to that. Nathan Hill says,

5:12 Speaker 1: only a little dance and can't be a whole group

5:15 Speaker 1: taunting type thing. Okay, So as long as it's relatively restrained,

5:19 Speaker 1: just a little, a little dance, they're allowed to do that. Yeah, Okay,

5:23 Speaker 1: that makes sense.

5:25 Speaker 3: Sure, But again, like that's the invention of the birthplace

5:28 Speaker 3: of the happy dance.

5:29 Speaker 1: I scored a touchdown.

5:30 Speaker 3: That's football. Is the birthplace of it, you know what

5:34 Speaker 3: I mean? She was, she was happy in the moment.

5:37 Speaker 3: She has won light the greatest achievement possible in her industry,

5:43 Speaker 3: in her in her chosen field, and.

5:45 Speaker 2: She got really attacked over it.

5:48 Speaker 3: So to have her come on the super Bowl and

5:52 Speaker 3: take back her power and do that dance and say

5:54 Speaker 3: I'm proud of everything I've accomplished, I think it's more

5:58 Speaker 3: than just she's.

5:58 Speaker 1: Drake's ex girlfriend.

6:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the people.

6:02 Speaker 3: I mean sure, I'm sure that played a little bit

6:04 Speaker 3: of a role, because good for her man he was

6:07 Speaker 3: so rotten to her.

6:08 Speaker 2: She deserved every moment of that too.

6:10 Speaker 3: But I don't want to cheapen the fact that we're

6:13 Speaker 3: talking about an Olympian here who earned every right to

6:17 Speaker 3: do her touchdown chance.

6:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely, that's my opinion.

6:21 Speaker 3: I don't understand why everybody's so angry. I don't get

6:25 Speaker 3: the anger of it. I thought it was cool that

6:28 Speaker 3: there was so much. I mean, it was patriotic as heck. Yeah,

6:31 Speaker 3: got the American flag built out with the dancers. But

6:34 Speaker 3: they see why why doesn't that? Why isn't that? I

6:38 Speaker 3: thought I was pretty pretty patriot.

6:40 Speaker 1: I thought, well, like I said, you know, some people

6:42 Speaker 1: just don't like hip hop. But also but some people

6:45 Speaker 1: just just like I said, some people just go way

6:47 Speaker 1: over the top with it. And they they see they

6:49 Speaker 1: see this overt political statement, they see it a threat,

6:53 Speaker 1: as a threat to them, and maybe you feel uncomfortable,

6:56 Speaker 1: maybe you need to look. They clearly prefer kid rock

7:00 Speaker 1: or something, you know, And and I will say this though,

7:04 Speaker 1: I I do want to defend like people who didn't

7:07 Speaker 1: like it just because they don't like hip hop, or

7:11 Speaker 1: just because they didn't like the mix and they felt

7:13 Speaker 1: like they couldn't hear him clearly enough or whatever, that's

7:16 Speaker 1: all valid. I do want to I do want to

7:18 Speaker 1: defend those people a little bit because because the other

7:21 Speaker 1: the other thing that happens, unfortunately is you know, everybody,

7:25 Speaker 1: everybody gets ramped up on both sides. And so then

7:28 Speaker 1: you have you have the people who that just isn't

7:31 Speaker 1: their thing getting attacked automatically being labeled as racist because

7:35 Speaker 1: they didn't like it. And that's not cool. Either. You're

7:38 Speaker 1: allowed not to like it, you're allowed not You're allowed

7:41 Speaker 1: not to like that kind of music. You're allowed not

7:42 Speaker 1: to like that kind of performance. That doesn't make you racist,

7:45 Speaker 1: which is not to say that some of the what

7:48 Speaker 1: I saw online, some of what I saw online people

7:52 Speaker 1: angry about it, who did go way over the top. Yeah,

7:55 Speaker 1: there's clearly something and more, you know, a mirror. Yeah yeah, yeah,

8:00 Speaker 1: so some some of them. Excuse me, I'm gotting worked up.

8:04 Speaker 1: So some of those people, Yeah, especially the people who

8:10 Speaker 1: believe that it was like, uh, you know, some sort

8:13 Speaker 1: of really overt aggressive political statement. Yeah, those people, I

8:17 Speaker 1: think there's something going on there. But but I don't.

8:20 Speaker 1: But I don't want to paint everybody that way. Some

8:22 Speaker 1: people just don't like Look, if you don't like rap music,

8:24 Speaker 1: you're not gonna like that. And that's and you're you're

8:26 Speaker 1: allowed not to like that. I liked it, and you

8:30 Speaker 1: liked it.

8:30 Speaker 3: And when they did, when they did it before, and

8:33 Speaker 3: it was like, Eminem up there, I didn't hear so much.

8:36 Speaker 3: I feel like I didn't hear as much complaining about it.

8:38 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's saying. Well, yes, that so,

8:42 Speaker 1: although although.

8:44 Speaker 3: It's where my head's like, you all got a different

8:47 Speaker 3: reason for not liking it.

8:49 Speaker 1: Although interestingly Eminem, though I will point out, he does

8:52 Speaker 1: he does his style and his flow, he does enunciate

8:57 Speaker 1: although he's sometimes it's hard to tell what he's saying

8:59 Speaker 1: because he's so fat. He can go very fast, but

9:01 Speaker 1: he does enunciate his words clearly.

9:04 Speaker 2: So does Lamar.

9:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, but not not not as much eminem. Eminem is

9:10 Speaker 1: very precise. We could have a whole other conversation about that.

9:14 Speaker 1: But but yeah, so so you know who, Oh boy,

9:19 Speaker 1: don't later, I am struggling. Let me take another gulf

9:24 Speaker 1: of water here.

9:26 Speaker 2: Like I crave it on Saturdays, I have to have

9:28 Speaker 2: my sushi.

9:28 Speaker 1: You know who else really enjoyed it, because he said

9:31 Speaker 1: on Facebook and he texted me about it too, is

9:34 Speaker 1: my dad. And it's funny because people who don't know

9:36 Speaker 1: my dad, or people who only know my dad online

9:40 Speaker 1: from his political posts and stuff, might be surprised. But

9:44 Speaker 1: but I actually was not surprised. My dad liked it

9:47 Speaker 1: a lot.

9:47 Speaker 2: And your dad's military, like.

9:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a he's a veterinarian. But the thing about

9:51 Speaker 1: my dad is he's always liked hip hop. I remember

9:53 Speaker 1: when when they did.

9:54 Speaker 2: The I remember you talking about that a few years.

9:57 Speaker 1: Ago when they had who was It? They had Doctor

9:59 Speaker 1: dre and fifty and you know legends and hip hop.

10:03 Speaker 1: That's oh yeah, Yeah, that's what we're talking about.

10:05 Speaker 2: Are you to hear complaints after that?

10:07 Speaker 1: No, No, well, I with some people, some people did,

10:10 Speaker 1: but although not to this extent. But I remember my

10:12 Speaker 1: dad texting me about that, saying how much he likes

10:14 Speaker 1: seeing doctor Dre there and everything. So my dad's always

10:17 Speaker 1: liked hip hop. But my dad's always been someone too

10:20 Speaker 1: who really enjoys hearing new music. So you know, like

10:24 Speaker 1: you know, growing up a lot of people they have

10:26 Speaker 1: that generational thing with their parents where you know, their

10:28 Speaker 1: parents only like old stuff, you know, from their youth,

10:31 Speaker 1: and they don't understand the right My dad was never

10:34 Speaker 1: like that. My dad even now at his age. You know,

10:37 Speaker 1: he lives on the Sea coast and he loves listening

10:39 Speaker 1: to w u n H, the great college station there

10:42 Speaker 1: because he loves hearing new music.

10:44 Speaker 2: Great place to hear artists, by the way.

10:46 Speaker 1: Absolutely not just rock, but hip hop too. He likes

10:49 Speaker 1: hip hop.

10:50 Speaker 3: So tune into the college stations. You will be amazed

10:53 Speaker 3: at some of the artists you can hear. Yeah, it's

10:56 Speaker 3: definitely worth it, definitely worth it. But yeah, I remember

10:58 Speaker 3: you talking about your dad. All is like being interested

11:01 Speaker 3: in new music and bringing that into the house, which

11:04 Speaker 3: is awesome, Like you got to kind of grow up

11:06 Speaker 3: well rounded musically. Yeah, you know, it wasn't like a

11:11 Speaker 3: particular genre that was.

11:12 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, exactly.

11:15 Speaker 2: I grew up with like.

11:16 Speaker 3: The top one hundred you know, Casey Caseam was on

11:20 Speaker 3: in our house, the top one hundred Rock and roll

11:24 Speaker 3: hits of the day or whatever it was. I remember

11:27 Speaker 3: my grandmother winning a Rolling Stones album off of w

11:31 Speaker 3: b Z. Yeah, she's loved those little contests.

11:37 Speaker 1: So the other thing that I love, and you seem

11:42 Speaker 1: to be very into it as well, is the a

11:45 Speaker 1: good old hip hop beef. Yes, when people are beefing,

11:49 Speaker 1: oh now now the only time. Now, I'm always fascinated

11:52 Speaker 1: by that kind of thing, always have been. As long

11:55 Speaker 1: as it doesn't end in violence, that's bad, right, you know,

11:58 Speaker 1: because you know we've you know, of course in the

12:01 Speaker 1: nineties we lost Tupac and Biggie because of that. Not

12:06 Speaker 1: that I think I feel like I am struggling. I

12:10 Speaker 1: feel like we're I feel like we're past that. I

12:13 Speaker 1: feel like we're past all that though, in the sense

12:15 Speaker 1: that you know, nobody's in danger, Like neither Kendrick Lamar

12:20 Speaker 1: nor Drake are in any danger from any of them.

12:22 Speaker 1: I hope not.

12:22 Speaker 3: I don't think like this this is all a verbal

12:25 Speaker 3: thing or what have you. But I'll tell you what.

12:27 Speaker 3: I keep go ending up on rabbit holes of watching

12:30 Speaker 3: other people reacting to when he finally because the build

12:34 Speaker 3: up is crazy. He keeps giving little little teasers about

12:38 Speaker 3: the song, and it's like, is he gonna play? It?

12:39 Speaker 1: Is gonna play.

12:40 Speaker 3: You watch some of these reaction videos and you'll see

12:43 Speaker 3: people like, he'll do a tease and people are like, Ah, he's.

12:46 Speaker 1: Not gonna do it.

12:47 Speaker 3: He's not gonna do it like I want him to

12:49 Speaker 3: do it, and then suddenly he starts it and people

12:53 Speaker 3: just go craze.

12:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, those are a great moment.

12:56 Speaker 3: And then you can see people like holding their breath

12:58 Speaker 3: when it gets right to the park he's about to

13:00 Speaker 3: do it, and he just looks.

13:02 Speaker 2: That guy has got the killer grin.

13:04 Speaker 1: I love the way the way grins when he looks

13:07 Speaker 1: into the camera and says, say Drake, oh my god, yeah,

13:10 Speaker 1: it was really good. That kills me.

13:12 Speaker 2: He has got the best. He does that grin more

13:14 Speaker 2: than once.

13:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got this side eye grin that's just freaking awesome.

13:20 Speaker 3: Right into the camera, say Drake, and he just goes

13:25 Speaker 3: on and yeah, oh my god, and the whole Super Bowl,

13:30 Speaker 3: all these people a minor chorus, that lawsuit, he just

13:37 Speaker 3: might as well drop it.

13:38 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, what are you gonna do? Yeah,

13:40 Speaker 1: for those who don't know about that part. So this

13:42 Speaker 1: particular hip hop beef has escalated, though legally, because Drake

13:46 Speaker 1: is suing UHL, he's suing the label and I think

13:50 Speaker 1: they're both on UMG. So Drake is like Limbiscuit is

13:53 Speaker 1: suing Universal Music Group. So is Drake, but he's suing

13:55 Speaker 1: over the Kendrick Lamar song because he's actually claiming definition

13:58 Speaker 1: of character, which it's just kind of like that's like

14:01 Speaker 1: the ultimate B move, right, and by B, I mean

14:04 Speaker 1: you know I can't say it here, but you know

14:06 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, right, actually actually file a lawsuit over

14:10 Speaker 1: a dis track? Like who does that? Has anyone else

14:12 Speaker 1: ever done that? Usually you just respond with another distract

14:16 Speaker 1: and you keep going as this thing between them has

14:18 Speaker 1: gone on for a decade.

14:19 Speaker 3: Yes, however, Devil's advocate here, Yeah, he does literally accuse

14:24 Speaker 3: him of being a pedalle Well yes, yeah, so.

14:26 Speaker 2: That might cross that line.

14:28 Speaker 3: This a little bit further than a general dis track right,

14:32 Speaker 3: although I mean at this point it's run how many Grammys?

14:35 Speaker 2: How many awards? Is the song one?

14:37 Speaker 3: Oh?

14:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, She's the guy's even gotta freggin. What is it?

14:41 Speaker 3: He's got something crazy? Is not a Peace Prize or

14:46 Speaker 3: is it Pulitzer Pulitzer?

14:48 Speaker 1: Does he? Yeah? Well I got he.

14:51 Speaker 3: Got something that was like never been done before and

14:54 Speaker 3: rap for this song.

14:56 Speaker 2: He has won so many awards.

14:58 Speaker 1: For this song. It's crazy. Well not only but this

15:00 Speaker 1: just happened. The BBC is reporting Kendrick Lamar earns first

15:05 Speaker 1: UK number one with Not Like Us, So it's now

15:09 Speaker 1: it is his first number one in the.

15:10 Speaker 3: UK and people are doing like TikTok dances and stuff,

15:14 Speaker 3: and they're doing like Serena's dance.

15:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just crazy.

15:18 Speaker 3: To watch the videos, Absolutely crazy to watch the video.

15:22 Speaker 2: I wonder if that.

15:23 Speaker 3: Family that you guys played last night did it the

15:25 Speaker 3: Mother and Son the Mother and Son cover.

15:30 Speaker 1: Oh from Yeah, I don't remember what they from Retrospectrum

15:33 Speaker 1: right now.

15:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, Miriam was looking them up and it was really

15:36 Speaker 3: interesting to see the mix their old and news style.

15:39 Speaker 2: I wonder if they've done that song.

15:40 Speaker 1: But a lot of people do it now I've been

15:42 Speaker 1: a Kendrick Lamar fan for a long time. Yeah, I

15:46 Speaker 1: like him the only uh because I remember when we

15:49 Speaker 1: used to be on weekly afternoons during Black History Month.

15:52 Speaker 1: I would play some of his tracks, which it is

15:56 Speaker 1: right now February. But I've as far as Drake, and

16:01 Speaker 1: I have nothing against Drake, but I don't dislike Drake.

16:04 Speaker 1: But the only the only track by Drake I can

16:07 Speaker 1: think of that I really like. It came out like

16:09 Speaker 1: what maybe five six years ago? Nice for what I

16:14 Speaker 1: and I played that on the show once too. I

16:16 Speaker 1: don't remember why that never play.

16:18 Speaker 2: It's for me that song has been played.

16:23 Speaker 1: It's so catchy though, very very catchy. Great book I

16:25 Speaker 1: Got You.

16:26 Speaker 3: Yeah.

16:26 Speaker 2: No, I've never been a Drake fan all that much

16:28 Speaker 2: myself and.

16:29 Speaker 3: Never really followed Kendrick all that much, but I yeah,

16:32 Speaker 3: I love this song. Actually, I loved the entire metally

16:37 Speaker 3: everything that they did was really great.

16:39 Speaker 1: Yeah.

16:39 Speaker 3: I liked the slowdown part and having her come out,

16:42 Speaker 3: and I really felt like everything they did was very

16:46 Speaker 3: well done, very tight, excellent performance and see any issues

16:52 Speaker 3: and boy, can we just say the Super Bowl show

16:55 Speaker 3: has had so many issues over the years, But I

16:57 Speaker 3: think they're now saying like this is the most watched one.

17:00 Speaker 3: He's beat everybody on the most watch super performance in history.

17:07 Speaker 3: All the viewership is insane, absolutely insane. But if you

17:11 Speaker 3: really want to laugh, you got to watch some of

17:13 Speaker 3: these reaction videos of people watching it. Snoop Dogg did one.

17:18 Speaker 3: There's a reaction video there Snoop Dogg watching it live.

17:23 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well yeah, they're from the same area to

17:26 Speaker 3: supporting each other.

17:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's fun. No, so uh yeah, it'll be

17:35 Speaker 1: interesting now to see if.

17:38 Speaker 2: What happens with the lawsuit, right, Yeah.

17:39 Speaker 1: Well, I'm also curious who, like what happens with this beef,

17:42 Speaker 1: because it seems like this is, like, to put it

17:45 Speaker 1: in wrestling terms, this was the WrestleMania main event between them,

17:49 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like this was because I

17:51 Speaker 1: don't see how Drake recovers. I don't see how Drake recovers. Yeah,

17:55 Speaker 1: to me, this was the final nail in the coffin.

17:57 Speaker 3: I agree, I agree. I mean, I don't see how

18:01 Speaker 3: he could possibly top us.

18:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. If there's another example that I'm

18:05 Speaker 1: not thinking of, if somebody performing, especially a disc track

18:09 Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl halftime show.

18:11 Speaker 3: And they have it goes so viral. Yeah, I don't know,

18:14 Speaker 3: the most viewed ever.

18:16 Speaker 1: I don't know how you top that.

18:17 Speaker 3: Still going crazy around the world. One a bunch of

18:22 Speaker 3: different awards. He's won a bunch of awards for it. Yeah,

18:25 Speaker 3: huge amount of awards for it. There's just no recovering

18:28 Speaker 3: from this. I'm sorry. Yeah, just put it to bed,

18:32 Speaker 3: leave it alone, move on. That's what Jake should do.

18:35 Speaker 3: Just just let it go, move on. Nothing good can

18:40 Speaker 3: come from him keeping it in the light and suing him.

18:43 Speaker 2: All he's gonna do is keep the attention on. He's

18:46 Speaker 2: better off letting it go and walking away cut his

18:48 Speaker 2: losses well.

18:49 Speaker 1: But can't he do that? Or does that look even

18:52 Speaker 1: worse if he if he walks away now, I mean,

18:55 Speaker 1: now he's put now he's in a no win situation.

18:57 Speaker 1: I mean, he looks like a bee for filing the lawsuit.

19:00 Speaker 1: But won't he also looked like a beefer if he

19:02 Speaker 1: just drops it and walks away, won't that look like

19:04 Speaker 1: he's conceding, like he's just uh uh, surrendering. Maybe he should, though, Yeah,

19:11 Speaker 1: I don't.

19:11 Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta pet your loss, accept your loss.

19:15 Speaker 1: And move on. Yeah, I don't know again, I don't

19:17 Speaker 1: know what else he can do, you know, unless he

19:19 Speaker 1: finds a way to make peace with with Kendrick. But

19:23 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's not gonna happen.

19:25 Speaker 2: No way that's gonna happen now.

19:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, not after this, I don't know.

19:29 Speaker 2: I mean, and then SNL picks up on it.

19:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, they left out.

19:32 Speaker 2: Drake's name, but they left in all the other words.

19:36 Speaker 1: You know, it can't happen though. I mean, people didn't

19:38 Speaker 1: think that jay Z and nas whatever. I mean that

19:41 Speaker 1: that got pretty pretty vicious with the distracts back and forth.

19:46 Speaker 1: What's that not this level?

19:48 Speaker 3: Well, not like it's walking around with statues because of it.

19:51 Speaker 1: I don't think. Yeah, I don't think anyone performed ether

19:53 Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl.

19:55 Speaker 2: Ads on your own, No, I know, Pedophile.

19:58 Speaker 1: I know there's really no reason for for them to

20:03 Speaker 1: make peace.

20:03 Speaker 3: I guess I don't see it happening.

20:07 Speaker 1: Oh hello to Tom Siracusa, of course if Syracusa, Sorry, Tom,

20:12 Speaker 1: I'm never sure how to say your last name from

20:14 Speaker 1: day to attend. By the way, their name came up

20:17 Speaker 1: again last week on the show when Ricky Mapleton was

20:23 Speaker 1: here and he mentioned he was at that show at

20:25 Speaker 1: the Aura in Portland seen Day to Attend open for

20:28 Speaker 1: Ace Frehley and had wonderful things to say about Day

20:31 Speaker 1: to Attend. However, Ricky Mapleton did not have wonderful things

20:37 Speaker 1: to say about Ace Fraley necessarily because apparently Ace took

20:40 Speaker 1: a sweet time getting to the stage.

20:42 Speaker 2: But oh yeah, didn't they say it was like was

20:45 Speaker 2: it three hours? It was hours?

20:48 Speaker 1: It was like midnight by the time he said the stage.

20:50 Speaker 1: But yeah, Tom says, good money and rivalries. Yeah, well

20:56 Speaker 1: that's true. That's the thing though about about any kind

21:00 Speaker 1: of beef, whether it's whether it's in hip hop or

21:04 Speaker 1: whether it's podcasters and radio hosts beefing with each other.

21:10 Speaker 1: You know, it does, uh, it does get a lot

21:13 Speaker 1: of attention and publicity. It does generate interest. You know,

21:18 Speaker 1: if you think about if you kind of pull back

21:19 Speaker 1: and think of it this way, would either Kendrick Lamar

21:24 Speaker 1: or Drake be As let me put it this way,

21:27 Speaker 1: take the beef out of it. We wouldn't probably be

21:31 Speaker 1: having I mean, woul Kendrick Lamar even have been had

21:34 Speaker 1: the opportunity to perform at the Super Bowl.

21:37 Speaker 3: Because not necessarily because I don't know, I mean, I

21:41 Speaker 3: don't know I mean, not that he wasn't popular, but

21:43 Speaker 3: this particular song has really changed his world.

21:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it but in a broader context.

21:52 Speaker 2: I mean what you know when he's hit Drake before

21:54 Speaker 2: and other songs.

21:55 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, they both have. They

21:57 Speaker 1: both have back and forth quite a bit. Yeah.

21:59 Speaker 3: Was it there a period of time when they were

22:01 Speaker 3: almost doing it daily, like they were coming out with

22:03 Speaker 3: thungs back to back against each other.

22:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't recent. This has been going on for

22:08 Speaker 1: a decade.

22:09 Speaker 3: Yeahter then they peel off the scab and do it

22:12 Speaker 3: all over again.

22:14 Speaker 1: But but there is good, you know it. And the

22:18 Speaker 1: thing is too if you play it right, everyone kind

22:20 Speaker 1: of benefits in the sense that everyone everyone involved benefits

22:26 Speaker 1: from the the interest that is generated.

22:30 Speaker 3: People are looking Drake up too, so you've got to

22:32 Speaker 3: be getting some benefit ont of it that.

22:34 Speaker 1: Way, right, right, that way, and people who like Drake better,

22:38 Speaker 1: especially probably in Canada because Drake is Canadian. I'm sure

22:41 Speaker 1: there's a lot of Canadians who are mad at Kendrick.

22:43 Speaker 2: I didn't realize he was Canadian.

22:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, he lives in Toronto.

22:47 Speaker 2: So does it become a Canadian American thing? Because that's going.

22:49 Speaker 3: On Oh maybe maybe, I don't know.

22:54 Speaker 1: By the way, Tom in the chat room from day

22:57 Speaker 1: to attend says, remember the early two thousand Super Bowl

23:00 Speaker 1: Aerosmith Brittany and saying Mary J. Blige, no best halftime

23:05 Speaker 1: shows ever, no drama. Well, well, Janet Jackson, there was drama.

23:10 Speaker 2: Drama and they really went after her. And it wasn't

23:12 Speaker 2: her fault.

23:14 Speaker 1: I'm still not. There were so many different explanations about

23:18 Speaker 1: what was really going on there.

23:20 Speaker 2: And he got poo pooed all over and he's the

23:23 Speaker 2: one that ripped it off of her.

23:24 Speaker 1: So but that one moment, though had But Lewis Black

23:34 Speaker 1: had the best take on it when when he said, uh,

23:37 Speaker 1: you know, we love Lewis Black, the comedian. When he said, uh,

23:40 Speaker 1: he watched, Well, I have to I have to edit

23:42 Speaker 1: how I say it, but he just it's funny when

23:45 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be funny when I say it, I

23:47 Speaker 1: don't have his delivery. But when he said, you know,

23:49 Speaker 1: he talks about watching his country lose its collective mind

23:53 Speaker 1: over over over that that the Janet Jackson incident at

23:56 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl.

23:57 Speaker 2: Look at the world today, But that had.

24:00 Speaker 1: All of a sudden you know who who that had

24:03 Speaker 1: a surprising effect on was the radio industry, even though

24:09 Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with radio, because all of

24:12 Speaker 1: a sudden, so that happens, people are losing their minds,

24:16 Speaker 1: as Lewis Black put it, and people were losing their minds,

24:19 Speaker 1: so they.

24:19 Speaker 2: Literally stood on the stage and stripped naked.

24:21 Speaker 1: Well, and then so and then you know, there's these

24:23 Speaker 1: questions about while is the FCC going to find whoever?

24:28 Speaker 1: The super Bowl and all that and all this stuff,

24:32 Speaker 1: and but all of a sudden things got much much

24:35 Speaker 1: more uptight at radio.

24:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was just I mean.

24:39 Speaker 3: They were taking it out on her as if she had,

24:42 Speaker 3: you know, jumped on the stage and intentionally stripped herself.

24:45 Speaker 2: She was mortified, horrified.

24:48 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, the backlash from that, though,

24:51 Speaker 1: it splashed onto onto radio shows like like Howard and

24:55 Speaker 1: and Opie and Anthony, and all of a sudden they're

25:00 Speaker 1: all being told, you know, whether it was by an

25:02 Speaker 1: Imus too, whether it was by CBS Radio or or

25:07 Speaker 1: Infinity Broadcasting or whoever, all of a sudden, the executives

25:10 Speaker 1: are telling them whoa the FCC is really you know,

25:13 Speaker 1: looking at everybody now not just you know, not just again,

25:17 Speaker 1: whoever was carrying the Super Bowl that year. They're looking

25:19 Speaker 1: at everybody, so we need to tighten up. It was.

25:21 Speaker 1: It was weird, the chilling effect that it had on

25:23 Speaker 1: talk radio, which had nothing to do with what happened. Well, no,

25:29 Speaker 1: this was no, not Reagan Gore her Well, No, that

25:35 Speaker 1: was the you're you're thinking of the eighties, Tipper Gore

25:37 Speaker 1: and the PMRC. No, this was this. I don't know why.

25:44 Speaker 1: I don't know why this happened when it did. It

25:46 Speaker 1: was just strange. I mean, it's one thing for people

25:50 Speaker 1: to be concerned. And look, I under I do understand it.

25:53 Speaker 1: I don't have any kids, but I understand if you're

25:54 Speaker 1: sitting there with your your kid and all of a

25:56 Speaker 1: sudden you see this and you know you got to

25:58 Speaker 1: explain it. And I don't know, but I'll tell you what.

26:02 Speaker 2: Well, my kid was young.

26:03 Speaker 3: I was more worried about him seeing somebody's head get

26:05 Speaker 3: chopped off.

26:06 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.

26:07 Speaker 2: Violence, Like nobody it's all about how you teach a kid.

26:10 Speaker 1: Nobody right, nobody ever, because nobody ever worries about, you know,

26:12 Speaker 1: their kids being exposed to violence constant.

26:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I worked in medicine. Well, I believed

26:16 Speaker 3: in teaching anatomy.

26:17 Speaker 1: But but but but just but the way it affected

26:20 Speaker 1: the radio industry was very very strange. And you know,

26:25 Speaker 1: because that was the era, you know, especially the early

26:28 Speaker 1: to mid two thousands or even into the late two thousands.

26:31 Speaker 1: But I mean that was kind of the era of

26:34 Speaker 1: the shock jock, which has now become sort of an

26:37 Speaker 1: an arcade and outdated term. Uh and shock jocks are

26:40 Speaker 1: kind of considered dinosaurs now. But but it had it

26:46 Speaker 1: really kind of shut down the shock jocks all of

26:48 Speaker 1: a sudden, this this moral panic over what happened at

26:52 Speaker 1: the super Bowl that affected things not related to the

26:57 Speaker 1: super Bowl halftime show. It was it was very, very,

27:00 Speaker 1: very strange.