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Matt Connarton Unleashed 2-28-26 hour 3
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Speaker 1: the morning, he gets into the shower and to the
Speaker 1: top of his lungs he sings.
Speaker 2: Wine because I kidd him all right.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Jerry, Welcome back everybody. We have entered our number
Speaker 2: three new arrow trace of Matt Connorton Unleashed. We are
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Speaker 2: live of course, today is Saturday, February twenty eight, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six. Nice have you with us, And I'm gonna
Speaker 2: ahead and bring this up because we also have joining
Speaker 2: us online Charles Richardson from The Charles Richardson Show.
Speaker 3: Hello, Charles, greetings, and thanks for having me on this
Speaker 3: last day of February.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I know this doesn't affect you because you are in Florida,
Speaker 2: but I like to think of the last day of
Speaker 2: February as being the last day of winter. And I'll
Speaker 2: tell you why, because my something my dad taught me
Speaker 2: he likes to think. He liked to think of winter
Speaker 2: as really only being two months long, just January and February,
Speaker 2: because most of December is technically still fall, so then
Speaker 2: you have January and February to contend with, and by
Speaker 2: the time you get to March, it's technically still winter.
Speaker 2: But at that point, you know, whatever happens happens, you
Speaker 2: don't care because any day now it's all gonna warm
Speaker 2: up and everything's gonna melt and it's gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: So in my mind, tomorrow, March first, is the first
Speaker 2: day of spring. Okay, but where you are, it doesn't matter, right,
Speaker 2: it don't matter.
Speaker 3: It's spring except for a few fragments of really really
Speaker 3: chilly air. I'm not gonna say cold, because I am
Speaker 3: I am northern or by blood. I was the one
Speaker 3: that went out here in t shirts and shorts wets
Speaker 3: forty degrees, and I see the rest of the people
Speaker 3: bundle up like it's gonna be a blizzard soon. So
Speaker 3: it's people look at me weird. I look at them
Speaker 3: weird too. Like in the fifties, people are still bundling
Speaker 3: up with with layers and layers like, are you crazy?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Come on, it's it just doesn't bother me. Maybe also
Speaker 3: because I'm like three hundred pounds, so it's like.
Speaker 2: Me a little bit more. See, you don't get cold
Speaker 2: as easily as uh no, maybe other other folks.
Speaker 3: No, everybody else. Everybody else is turning on the heat Monday,
Speaker 3: and it's like thirty five degrees over here. I got
Speaker 3: the window open and I'm sleeping in my normal thing.
Speaker 3: So it's like I was, I was in heaven.
Speaker 2: How how cold is it in the winter there? Like that?
Speaker 2: Is it getting down to thirty five? Is that normal?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: In about so the cumlative days that it gets into
Speaker 3: the thirties, I have two hands to count the days. Really, yeah,
Speaker 3: it doesn't. It doesn't happen that often. And when it does,
Speaker 3: they have a thing called falling iguana warnings that are
Speaker 3: down here. Really, I kid you not. I'd use another word,
Speaker 3: but just that. That's how ridiculous it sounds. Is Literally,
Speaker 3: if it gets below forty degrees, the iguanas will literally freeze,
Speaker 3: frozen and fall from trees. They're not dead, Why're just
Speaker 3: frozen and they fall. And there's that's literally a thing
Speaker 3: down here.
Speaker 2: I'd never heard of this before.
Speaker 3: So when you go ahead and hear, well, have you
Speaker 3: never heard of it, then you probably not gonna hear it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: But every time you hear a frozen to guana warning
Speaker 3: down here in Florida, it's literally things that don't don't
Speaker 3: don't kill the iguanas or anything. They're still alive. They're
Speaker 3: just they're hibernating warms up again.
Speaker 2: I'll be damned. Oh that's wild. Yeah, I had no idea.
Speaker 2: I had no idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Speaking of iguanas. By the way, I don't know how
Speaker 2: you feel about him. Jenny and I are both very
Speaker 2: big fans of mister Iguana.
Speaker 3: Yeah I heard. Listen to me, that was a wasted
Speaker 3: d rumblespot. Oh he didn't. He didn't do a whole lot.
Speaker 3: And he look like he looked like doing the clown
Speaker 3: to me. Oh, yes, he's very Listen, he's very athletic.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say anything, but it's like, listen, give
Speaker 3: him bring him up to to to NXT limbs, see
Speaker 3: what he can do on that. You know. I know
Speaker 3: he's in triple A and everything. So okay, it's fine.
Speaker 3: He's gonna get his fair share. Of exposure. But to me,
Speaker 3: mister Gana, it sounds like a Vince McMahon gimmick name.
Speaker 3: It really does. I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: say he's not talented or anything like that. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: just saying that the first exposure I have mister Guana. No,
Speaker 3: it's just it doesn't rub me the right way. It
Speaker 3: really doesn't.
Speaker 2: We love, we love mister Ivana.
Speaker 3: Apparently I have. I have very quick judgment to the name. Well,
Speaker 3: not not the man.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, I got a bunch of
Speaker 2: crap for it. On So on Friday nights, I'm a
Speaker 2: co host on Retrospectrum Radio with poly C and they
Speaker 2: they they they recently gave they've gave me a bunch
Speaker 2: of crap about my love for mister Iguana. But I
Speaker 2: think he's great. I say, put the belt on him,
Speaker 2: make him the champion.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Yeah, definitely put a belt on him,
Speaker 3: so you can go ahead and hold this tights up
Speaker 3: a little bit better. Belt.
Speaker 2: Well, part of why we're talking today, of course, aside
Speaker 2: from the fact that we always love to have you on,
Speaker 2: of course, and you are the host of the Charles
Speaker 2: richardson show. But today, speaking of shows, is Elimination Chamber. Now,
Speaker 2: I should tell you that Jenny and I have not
Speaker 2: yet watched SmackDown. And the reason we haven't watched SmackDown
Speaker 2: yet is because on Friday nights, I of course, am
Speaker 2: on Retrospectrum Radio, so we usually don't get to smack
Speaker 2: Down until Saturday, and then we won't even get to
Speaker 2: Elimination Chamber until either later this evening or possibly even tomorrow,
Speaker 2: so we may be a little bit behind. Now. I'm
Speaker 2: not putting any limitations on our conversation, of course, but
Speaker 2: I'm just offering this as a spoiler alert. Jenny doesn't spoilers,
Speaker 2: so if we're if we talk about SmackDown at all,
Speaker 2: which I assume we will, because that will affect the
Speaker 2: Elimination Chamber. You know, Jenny might want to tune out
Speaker 2: because I don't mind spoilers. Uh. But Jenny, of course, Uh,
Speaker 2: I know she doesn't want any, so this will give
Speaker 2: her a chance to, uh to shut this off if
Speaker 2: she's listening. But but I, but I I think something
Speaker 2: you got go ahead.
Speaker 3: You got you got three seconds, two seconds, one second,
Speaker 3: And I have just one word for you. It's three letters,
Speaker 3: and it's USO. And the reason why I say USO
Speaker 3: is because USO is out of the elimination chamber. Okay,
Speaker 3: thanks to the very first part of SmackDown. He got
Speaker 3: beaten down in an ambulance and the rumors were it
Speaker 3: was Drew McIntyre. Okay, So that opened up a spot
Speaker 3: for Jacob Fattou and a part of the vision which
Speaker 3: probably guess doing one that's not injured. It's Logan Paul
Speaker 3: actually should be Austin theory is not injured, but do
Speaker 3: we really count him right anyway, But so Logan and
Speaker 3: Paul and Fartu went ahead and got into a match,
Speaker 3: and the final elimination chamber of spot goes to Matt
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a guess.
Speaker 2: But Jacob Fatu No, oh, Logan.
Speaker 3: Paul because Dumac and Tyre has to.
Speaker 2: Wait what say that again?
Speaker 3: It is the final entrant in the elimination chamber. So
Speaker 3: Jay us So is out, Logan Paul is in.
Speaker 2: Just fyi, oh okay, gotcha? Gotcha. By the way, what
Speaker 2: do you think of Logan Paul? Because I know he's
Speaker 2: he's kind of divisive. I think he's incredible as a
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not I'm not so sure about some
Speaker 2: of the other things he's gotten involved in terms of
Speaker 2: business practices and so forth. But people call him a
Speaker 2: scammer of this and that. But I think as a
Speaker 2: professional wrestler, I think he's incredible.
Speaker 3: I think Logan Paul is actually mister Honor.
Speaker 2: He's too tall, too tall.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying he's very athletic. I mean, definitely, he
Speaker 3: has all the characteristics of being a WWE guy. He
Speaker 3: really does. And I'm not gonna call him a superstar
Speaker 3: or a wrestler because I guess they're neither, you know so,
Speaker 3: But Logan Paul's got everything. He's dazzled us in the ring.
Speaker 3: He really does. Now he's becoming a full time thing
Speaker 3: because I guess his YouTube channel making money anymore, I
Speaker 3: don't know. But you know, he's obviously been an influencer,
Speaker 3: which that's a thing nowadays. That's a that's a career
Speaker 3: choice along with only fans. That's a career choice now.
Speaker 3: And now he's turned into he's actually making himself full time,
Speaker 3: which I am very happy to see. That way, you
Speaker 3: can really see what he's like in the ring. Three
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty five days a year, and we'll see
Speaker 3: how he handles himself with his character. And I think
Speaker 3: put him in the vision is a good way to
Speaker 3: kind of mask any oopsies that he may do because
Speaker 3: he's with a group. And who better to mentor than
Speaker 3: Paul Hayman. Paul Hayman is done, CM Punk done, brock Lesner,
Speaker 3: he's done, Roman Reigns. All those careers basically took off
Speaker 3: with Paul Haymon involved. And you got to give the
Speaker 3: Walhrs his due. We really do so. I think Paul Logan, Paul,
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be excellent. As a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, I don't doubt that he wins tonight.
Speaker 2: Oh you think really? You think he's going to win
Speaker 2: the elimination chaper.
Speaker 3: I don't have a solid bet on that one, but
Speaker 3: he's I mean, he could be built up to it
Speaker 3: because I think a lot of I think a lot
Speaker 3: of the storytelling has tooken some turns because of injuries.
Speaker 3: I think it should have been Bronson Reid in that
Speaker 3: last spot, but right get injured.
Speaker 2: Triceptare Yeah, I believe it is triceptor Bceptar. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know it has something to do with the tries,
Speaker 3: so I think he was supposed to be one in there,
Speaker 3: but I think they had they had to make a pivot,
Speaker 3: and that's why jay Usso he won, wasn't supposed to win.
Speaker 3: That's why he's beaten up and now and that that's
Speaker 3: the that's the swagger, that that's the swing they're doing.
Speaker 3: So I don't I wouldn't be surprised if Logan Paul
Speaker 3: is set to go ahead and uh and win, or
Speaker 3: at least be in the final two.
Speaker 2: I think it's very unlikely that he wins because they're
Speaker 2: not gonna want to send him to WrestleMania the main event, right,
Speaker 2: I mean not yet. Maybe next year eventually, but not yet.
Speaker 3: You know, no, No, I mean you take a look
Speaker 3: at if you take a look at the men's chamber,
Speaker 3: the chamber match, you got Cody Rhodes, Javon Evans, l
Speaker 3: A Night, Logan, Paul, Randy One, and Trick Williams. A
Speaker 3: lot of new lou faces. I like Trick, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: Trick lot. I like Javon. Javon could do some amazing
Speaker 3: things in that in that chamber.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jenny loves him too. Yeah, Evans incredible.
Speaker 3: I really hope and I know this is probably not
Speaker 3: gonna be true, but I really hope it is not Cody,
Speaker 3: and it's not Randy.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's somebody else.
Speaker 3: Take this rein somebody that somebody that's a face. If
Speaker 3: you take a look, really, all of these people are
Speaker 3: faces except Logan ball Well.
Speaker 2: Trick Williams is kinda I don't know what to think
Speaker 2: because he acts like a heel. Everything about him is
Speaker 2: a heel, but the fans love him.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, it's like, if you want to go, I
Speaker 3: think Trick is all about Trick. He doesn't care about
Speaker 3: anybody else's so I don't call him a face or
Speaker 3: a heel. I think he's just he's just for himself.
Speaker 3: So does that make him a heel? I don't think so,
Speaker 3: I think, but it definitely doesn't make it. You know,
Speaker 3: him being a crowd favorite, I think automatically puts him
Speaker 3: into that face category.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the crowd explodes when his music hits. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's the bigg he gets the biggest. He gets a
Speaker 2: bigger face pop than most of the babyfaces. Even though
Speaker 2: he acts like a heel. He kind of reminds me
Speaker 2: of the rock, you know, the rock even when the
Speaker 2: Rock was a babyface early on, you know he was
Speaker 2: he was all about himself, you know, he wasn't the
Speaker 2: most empathetic babyface, and I think Trick Williams is probably
Speaker 2: a very similar to that. I certainly don't think it's
Speaker 2: going to be Randy Orton. I think it's most likely
Speaker 2: to be Cody Rhods, but they may also If it's
Speaker 2: not Cody, then that means they're going to use tonight's
Speaker 2: match to because they've been teasing it for so long,
Speaker 2: there's finally going to be some sort of a breakdown
Speaker 2: between Cody Roads and Randy Orton. You think so, I do.
Speaker 2: I think that they're They've been teasing that and teasing it,
Speaker 2: and I think I think this is going to be
Speaker 2: the moment.
Speaker 3: It's finally about time, right, It's about time to see
Speaker 3: heel Roads roseby and a heel or.
Speaker 2: Well or the Randy Orton heel turn. But the problem
Speaker 2: with turning Orton heel is he is so and he
Speaker 2: has been since he came back for the past couple
Speaker 2: of years. He is so over as a babyface, the
Speaker 2: way the fans sing his song, I've never seen him
Speaker 2: as over as a babyface, even though he's an excellent heel.
Speaker 2: So you think so okay, So you think tonight they
Speaker 2: pulled the trigger on the Cody Roads heel turn.
Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I was asking you if you
Speaker 3: think that's oh okay.
Speaker 2: I I don't know if they it's so there's so
Speaker 2: much risk in doing it. I want to see it.
Speaker 2: Jenny wants to see it too. She was saying she's
Speaker 2: ready for it. I think it would be great. I
Speaker 2: have long speculated because we don't know. They've never told
Speaker 2: us who actually is responsible for the attack on Jacob
Speaker 2: fat Too, and I've said all along, what if it's Cody,
Speaker 2: Hm hmm, what if it somehow is revealed that it
Speaker 2: was Cody.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. I think that's really too far off. But
Speaker 3: you know what, it would be the first time that
Speaker 3: wwe surprised me.
Speaker 2: They dropped a hint though they opened the door. Right
Speaker 2: after it happened, there was a conversation between Cody Rhads
Speaker 2: and Nick All This where Cody Rhodes said to Nick
Speaker 2: All this, by the way, I'm really sorry about what
Speaker 2: happened to Jacob. I like Jacob, it's terrible, And then
Speaker 2: he moved on to something else in their conversation. But
Speaker 2: I remember him saying that and thinking why did they
Speaker 2: have him go out of his way to say that
Speaker 2: and to say how much he likes Jacob Plot too? Why?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, because because fat two cost Roads to
Speaker 3: Belt literally in that that match. So they they've had
Speaker 3: some beef. But hey, you know what that that's that
Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense too. If they will go
Speaker 3: ahead and pull the trigger, all right, I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be too shocked on that. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: think why would it make Roads a bad guy? It
Speaker 3: was just one guy that he has a thing against it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if it turned out he's the one responsible
Speaker 2: for the attack, I mean, that's a heel thing to do.
Speaker 2: That's that you know, a baby face wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is but it is risky there, there's
Speaker 2: there's always a risk to it. But but the shock
Speaker 2: of it would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you can. If you're gonna make a heel turn, listen,
Speaker 3: don't be like, don't do to Cody like you did
Speaker 3: John Cena and just like eh merchandise is up. You're
Speaker 3: just gonna keep you face and faith. No turn him,
Speaker 3: turn them, if you're gonna do it, turn them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean Cody even said he came out and said
Speaker 3: the next contract to gets to w W is gonna
Speaker 3: be his last. Yeah, so you know what, let's just
Speaker 3: do it, just do it. Yeah, but what's it really
Speaker 3: gonna hurt? You know? Orton's on the end of his career,
Speaker 3: Cody's on the end of his career. Man love to
Speaker 3: see La Night win. I would love to see ol
Speaker 3: a night. I think he's overdue a push for so long.
Speaker 3: I love to see him again.
Speaker 2: Drew, I would love to see it too, And I
Speaker 2: think most of the fans would love to see it.
Speaker 2: I just don't think they're going to. Do you watch well?
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this because it's has to
Speaker 2: do with my thought on La Night. Do you think
Speaker 2: they lost confidence in him? Because I assumed did you
Speaker 2: watch WWE? Unreal?
Speaker 3: No, he didn't.
Speaker 2: Oh you haven't seen it.
Speaker 3: Oh, I've seen. I've seen two episodes of the first season.
Speaker 3: I am so behind on that. Oh.
Speaker 2: Jenny and I ended up binge watching it because it's
Speaker 2: so good and I know a lot of it. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of negativity negativity online toward that show, and
Speaker 2: I don't quite understand it. I think it's I think
Speaker 2: it's fantastic. I know, I know a lot of the
Speaker 2: podcasters don't like it. James Romero hates it. I think
Speaker 2: it's really good. But but there's a moment you might
Speaker 2: be aware of this. There's there is a moment where
Speaker 2: because when they did money in the Bank, La Knight
Speaker 2: apparently made a mistake and it screwed up the ending
Speaker 2: of the match. And there's a scene in Unreal where
Speaker 2: Triple H is kind of telling l A. Knight, look,
Speaker 2: you really mess this up. Here's what was supposed to happen.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you were thinking, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: And so it has a lot of people speculating that
Speaker 2: they may have lost confidence in l. A. Night and
Speaker 2: that's why he remains. He's always like on the edge
Speaker 2: of being in main events, but he never quite quite
Speaker 2: gets that push all the way to the top. And uh,
Speaker 2: and and that the speculation that that might be why
Speaker 2: Eric Pilcher and Austin and I we talked about it
Speaker 2: on toff Bumps recently. You know that that may be
Speaker 2: the reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of politics to go on behind
Speaker 3: the scenes too, whether you get a push or not.
Speaker 3: And you know, my my question has always been listening.
Speaker 3: He's over with the crowd. You know, we enjoy I
Speaker 3: enjoy his matches. I think he has a love of athleticism.
Speaker 3: He's not a typical three moves of doom type of person.
Speaker 3: You know, he's got he's got a good finisher. Why
Speaker 3: are we not pushing him?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: What? What's the what's the hold up? What's going on?
Speaker 3: And stuff like that behind the scenes when you're not
Speaker 3: cooperating with what was supposed to be planned, and they're
Speaker 3: kind of like saying, you know what the deal is, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that can hold you back, That really can't so uh
Speaker 3: and and to backtrack, listen, an unreal is for the
Speaker 3: person that kind of wants to see what's going on.
Speaker 3: Paul Haymon's come out and says he absolutely hates it.
Speaker 2: He says it right on the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he hates it because it's literally you're pulling
Speaker 3: the curtain way too far back and that's supposed to
Speaker 3: be kept sacred, right and steampunk kind of feels the
Speaker 3: same way a little bit. He said he he refused
Speaker 3: to do a couple of things that they asked him
Speaker 3: to do or he asked him to cut it out
Speaker 3: or something like that. So yeah, it is really one
Speaker 3: of those things where it it polarizes the industry a
Speaker 3: little bit because it's like, you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: people are against it and listen to what's kept behind
Speaker 3: that curtain, should be kept behind that curtain?
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 3: Out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love all that stuff even you know, even
Speaker 2: if but see, I would enjoy that show even if
Speaker 2: it didn't pull back the curtain as much. But it
Speaker 2: just kind of showed you behind the scenes how things work,
Speaker 2: you know, and gorilla position and everything. You know, even
Speaker 2: if they even if they didn't give anything away really,
Speaker 2: even if it was a little bit more k fame,
Speaker 2: but still it showed you kind of kind of just
Speaker 2: how things work behind the scenes. I would still even
Speaker 2: find that really fascinating, just because I love that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff anyway. I always have.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, who do you think of when you
Speaker 3: see Drew McIntyre on camera? You think of him as
Speaker 3: you think of him as not a nice guy, you
Speaker 3: and now you take a look behind the scenes and
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, well, you know, he's he's he's a
Speaker 3: loving husband, father or whatever they whatever he is, you know,
Speaker 3: and you know he's actually gotta got a human side
Speaker 3: to him, right, you know, say you know the same
Speaker 3: thing with Solo Socoa, so those you know, just he's
Speaker 3: he's a he's a bad guy, but you know, behind
Speaker 3: the scenes, you know he's got a family, just like
Speaker 3: everybody else does, you know, And and and that's that's
Speaker 3: the way, you know, you need to take a look
Speaker 3: at I mean, a lot of people, they they want
Speaker 3: just the image on TV, so they can generally hate
Speaker 3: somebody or like somebody based on what they see on
Speaker 3: the camera. But I think you know, there's a lot
Speaker 3: more people that know that, listen, this is a character. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not really them, right, but you know, but what
Speaker 3: does that do to the character?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Now it's kind of like a little bit clouded. Do
Speaker 3: I cheer for him? Or do I do I hate him?
Speaker 3: Because you know who they are behind the scenes and
Speaker 3: how they are as a real person, but they're playing
Speaker 3: a bad guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to me, it doesn't bother me, It
Speaker 2: never has. I compartmentalize it pretty easily because I just
Speaker 2: look at it the same way I look at anything else.
Speaker 2: You know, they're they're they're actors, so so I you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not the slightest bit bothered by seeing, you know,
Speaker 2: somebody like Drew McIntyre who's supposed to be a bad guy.
Speaker 2: You know, when I when I see him outside in
Speaker 2: a different context and it turns out he's actually a
Speaker 2: nice guy, it's like, well, yeah, I actually kind of
Speaker 2: assumed that already. I assume he's not the character that
Speaker 2: he plays on television, just like with anything else. So
Speaker 2: it's it's never bothered me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. You still have you still have these
Speaker 3: simple minded people were just getting into wrestling thinking, oh
Speaker 3: my god, well, why are they allowed to do that?
Speaker 2: Called the cop yees o. Relax it's a show. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: oh my word.
Speaker 3: They said wrestling was fake. This looks so real. It's
Speaker 3: fake because the outcomes are predetermined.
Speaker 2: It is weird to me, though, that in the year
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, because as a wrestling fan, I've been
Speaker 2: dealing with this my whole life. And I'm sure you
Speaker 2: have two as every wrestling fan has. Even today, I'll
Speaker 2: have a conversation with someone who doesn't like wrestling and
Speaker 2: they will say to me, well, you know, it's all fake, right,
Speaker 2: It's like, no kidding, Really, it's scripted. It's scripted entertainment. Wow, No,
Speaker 2: I thought it was all real. I also thought Star
Speaker 2: Trek was real. I thought it was a documentary about
Speaker 2: going into outer space. I thought Game of Thrones were real.
Speaker 2: I thought those dragons were real dragons. Like, it's so insulting.
Speaker 2: It's like because when somebody says that to me, to me,
Speaker 2: it's like, what they're really saying is either they think
Speaker 2: I'm an idiot or or they they just or they
Speaker 2: just look down on something that I happen to, Like
Speaker 2: it's just because they don't like it.
Speaker 3: What's the sacond one? It's yeah, they're not calling you
Speaker 3: an idiot. I think it's them they're being idiots. It's
Speaker 3: it's like, you really think that we don't know. You
Speaker 3: really think we don't know? Oh, yes, we know they're
Speaker 3: going through tables and yes, how do you prevent that
Speaker 3: from being fake? What is the AI? It's table to AI.
Speaker 3: This is just a character that's that's dropping on tails.
Speaker 3: It's really a big mattress pad. We know that they Listen,
Speaker 3: It's it's fake to a point. Listen, you get bumps
Speaker 3: and bruises. That's the reason why there's injuries.
Speaker 2: Now, the injuries are real.
Speaker 3: You are taking risk, but it is calculated risks. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not. We're not going to throw somebody off of
Speaker 3: still cage and they're gonna land on concrete. No, there's
Speaker 3: gonna be something to break the fall. So there's not
Speaker 3: a serious injury, right, you know, it's that point there
Speaker 3: is still bumps and bruises, you know, it's people still
Speaker 3: deal with pain.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I may have told this story. I know I've told.
Speaker 2: I can't remember who I've told this story to and
Speaker 2: who I haven't, So I don't know if listeners have
Speaker 2: heard this yet or have heard this before, or if
Speaker 2: you have Charles. But when I was a kid, so
Speaker 2: I had a friend who really looked down on wrestling,
Speaker 2: and we're having a conversation about it, and uh, and
Speaker 2: he pulled that with me. He's like, well, you know
Speaker 2: it's fake, right, And I'm like, yeah, I know obviously,
Speaker 2: even when I was a kid, I mean I knew,
Speaker 2: I understood it was scripted entertainment. And I remember he
Speaker 2: said to me, he goes, well, if there's a if
Speaker 2: it's all if it's all predetermined where's the integrity in it?
Speaker 2: That's literally what he said to me, where's the integrity?
Speaker 2: And I knew about him, and there's by the way,
Speaker 2: there's a horrible irony to what I'm about to say,
Speaker 2: But this is how the conversation went. I said to
Speaker 2: him because I knew he was a fan of the
Speaker 2: Cosby Show. So I said to him, I said, well,
Speaker 2: you like the Cosby Show, right, and he goes yeah,
Speaker 2: And I said, well, did you know that that's all fake?
Speaker 2: Did you know that Cliff Huxtable that his name is
Speaker 2: an actually Cliff Huxtable, and that it's really Bill Cosby
Speaker 2: and he's an actor and that's not a real family.
Speaker 2: They're all actors and they're just pretending. Where's the integrity
Speaker 2: in the Cosby Now? Of course, again, what we know
Speaker 2: about Bill Cosby today, that's the part that makes it
Speaker 2: horribly ironic, uncomfortably so, actually, But we didn't know that.
Speaker 2: But I just remember saying that to him. It's like, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: where's the integrity in the Cosby Show? That's all fake?
Speaker 2: You know, it's all scripted, you know. But again, you know,
Speaker 2: and that was when I was a kid, and you know,
Speaker 2: here we are in twenty twenty six, and people still
Speaker 2: come at us with that and it's like, yeah, we know,
Speaker 2: it's fun.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just now, it's it's the circle of life.
Speaker 3: It's the circle of disbelief. That's what it is. You
Speaker 3: got these new new kids that are like it's fake,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, And and you know what, in twenty years,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be the same thing. It's gonna be the
Speaker 3: same thing. But hopefully by then, maybe we you know,
Speaker 3: evolve from these apes of people that you know, would
Speaker 3: would like would go to humans to understand that this
Speaker 3: is all entertainment. It's all it is. But it's fun.
Speaker 3: It's fun, just like you know, you ladies out there
Speaker 3: like your soap operas. You realize that Salem is not
Speaker 3: really a place. It's based on a place, but it's
Speaker 3: not really a place.
Speaker 2: Salem.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't even know if it's sale master. I
Speaker 3: think my wife says, like Illinois, they they they're based
Speaker 3: in Salem, Illinois. What days of our lives?
Speaker 2: Oh, days of our lives?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you know, it's like, you know, you got
Speaker 3: the I just love this. I love it. I don't
Speaker 3: watch it, trust me, but I've seen things that she
Speaker 3: watches on that soap opera. Literally, if there's like a
Speaker 3: fight and there they're holding some hostage at gunpoint, that
Speaker 3: gun point last for five episodes.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you got to fill five.
Speaker 3: We're you gonna pull the trigger or lose control? What's
Speaker 3: going on here?
Speaker 2: Well well, yes, yeah, soap operas are paced a little
Speaker 2: differently than a weekly show because it's on five days
Speaker 2: a week. And I understand that because you know, I,
Speaker 2: like I I grew up watching General Hospital. I blame
Speaker 2: that on my mother. She got me hooked on it
Speaker 2: one summer. And but but the thing is, yeah, well
Speaker 2: the thing is, though General Hospital had and still does
Speaker 2: from what I understand to this day. You know, it
Speaker 2: had it had all the tropes of a soap opera,
Speaker 2: but it also had like this really strong action adventure
Speaker 2: element to it, you know, with with Russian spies and
Speaker 2: mob stories and you know, so uh so that's why,
Speaker 2: even as a little boy, I was able to get
Speaker 2: hooked into into that. But it also it's worth noting
Speaker 2: that some of those same elements about General Hospital are
Speaker 2: probably some of the same elements that got me hooked
Speaker 2: on wrestling, because wrestling so much of that is you know,
Speaker 2: inspired by In terms of the storytelling soap operas.
Speaker 3: It is a soap opera is a male action soap
Speaker 3: opera that involves guys dressed in tights fighting each other
Speaker 3: in a ten by ten ring. Yes, and women too,
Speaker 3: speaking of those, speaking of those athletes and tights, let's
Speaker 3: go over the matches tonight, Yes, yes, please, obviously I
Speaker 3: want to go ahead and get your picks as well
Speaker 3: as mine. Okay, it's gonna be a little odd to
Speaker 3: pick these because we're not picking one on ones. It
Speaker 3: will least for two of them. It's going to be
Speaker 3: which one of the five or six do you think
Speaker 3: is going to walk out of here? Okay, we already
Speaker 3: kind of you know, mentioned a little bit about the
Speaker 3: men's Cody, Javon Night Logan, Randy and Trick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna be Cody.
Speaker 3: I I do too, But you know, if I had
Speaker 3: to go ahead and man, yeah, I after you told
Speaker 3: me what happened on Unreal, I don't think they have
Speaker 3: Ellie Knight doing it, and I think Trick and Javan
Speaker 3: they're too young right now. Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna come
Speaker 3: down to the two older people when I really hope
Speaker 3: they fool us. I really hope they fool us and
Speaker 3: they go ahead and do Night or they do Javan.
Speaker 2: I would love it.
Speaker 3: I really hope so.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, if I'm gonna put if I'm gonna have
Speaker 3: to put money on, it's Cody. Yeah, it's sad to say.
Speaker 2: And it's definitely not gonna be Javan. They're not gonna
Speaker 2: be He's not gonna be in the main event of
Speaker 2: WrestleMania already. But he's got a long career ahead of him.
Speaker 2: He's got plenty of time, and so does Trick.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if Logan. I'm seriously if the
Speaker 3: Vision gets involved, even though it's a cage match, you
Speaker 3: never know that that's still hasn't stopped people from getting involved.
Speaker 3: Logan would be my outside choice.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it would be interesting.
Speaker 3: For the women's Here's what we got. The lineup his Oscar,
Speaker 3: Alexa Bliss, Keana James, where Calvidriguez, Rhea and Tiffany Stratton.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be Rea Ripley.
Speaker 3: You think so, Yeah?
Speaker 2: They want to get her into a women's main event, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And another spoil she dropped the tag team titles
Speaker 3: to uh Nia Jackson lash legend really stupid? Oh wow
Speaker 3: he lost last night?
Speaker 2: Okay, what happened after the uh and again spoiler alert,
Speaker 2: But so what happened after the match, because what I
Speaker 2: assume where they're going long term is, you know, Ria
Speaker 2: Ripley and E O. Sky obviously are very very buddy buddy,
Speaker 2: but eventually there is going to be a split. I'm
Speaker 2: curious what happens after the match. Did anything happen after
Speaker 2: of the match between them?
Speaker 3: I was reading it. I didn't watch it, but I
Speaker 3: was reading it at the time, the timetable of the blog. Uh,
Speaker 3: nothing exciting happened afterwards. They just celebrated.
Speaker 2: Okay, nothing happened between Io and Rhea.
Speaker 3: Right, gotcha? Okay, so yeah, I kind of see Ria,
Speaker 3: But you know what, Tiffany came back from injury. I
Speaker 3: think she wants to take back her her rightful spot.
Speaker 2: There could be I could see that too. I could
Speaker 2: see them going with Tiffany Stratton.
Speaker 3: I'll go ahead and put my put my dollars on Tiffany.
Speaker 2: It's not going to be Alexa Bliss. It's obviously it's
Speaker 2: certainly not going to be a Keana James, Uh, who
Speaker 2: else It's not gonna be. It's not gonna be Oscar saying.
Speaker 3: It should be nice though Alexa Bliss has been waiting
Speaker 3: a long time too, since she came back.
Speaker 2: True, it's not gonna be her, though, I'd be very surprised.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be either uh, Tiffany Stratton
Speaker 2: or Rhea Ripley one one, one of one of those two.
Speaker 3: I'll take Tiffany's my horse, Okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 3: One of the two singles matches that is booked, This
Speaker 3: one here is for the Women's Intercontinental Championship with Becky
Speaker 3: and AJ. First singles match for AJ in over ten years. Yeah,
Speaker 3: against the greatest of all time. It's not just me
Speaker 3: saying it, it's What's Illustrated saying it's.
Speaker 2: Meg TV scene, the Bleacher Report says it.
Speaker 3: I'm so done with everybody else to say it. Oh
Speaker 3: my god, you're annoying as hell.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, Charles, hold on, we got to
Speaker 2: talk about this. I love Becky Lynch's promos. Yeah, oh
Speaker 2: my god. I have never been such a fan of
Speaker 2: Becky Lynch as I am right now. I love her promos.
Speaker 2: I love when she does that whole thing is not
Speaker 2: just me saying it's Sports Illustrated says it. I I
Speaker 2: Becky Lynch as a heel, and by the way, I
Speaker 2: only as a heel as a baby face. I think
Speaker 2: she's dull as dirt, but as a heel I love
Speaker 2: I could. I wouldn't care if they just let her
Speaker 2: go out and talk for twenty minutes. I love everything
Speaker 2: she's doing as a heel right now. But it sounds
Speaker 2: like you're you're over it. Did Do you want to
Speaker 2: know the reason why I hate her promos? Why?
Speaker 3: It's just I cannot stand the stuttering. I cannot say
Speaker 3: it is a minor thing. Well, she doesn't stutter, she stammers,
Speaker 3: Well you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: just people sometimes people say stutter when they mean stammer. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: a stammer. We'll do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: But I can't stand it. I really, It's just it
Speaker 3: makes her sound really dumb, oh, really like she doesn't
Speaker 3: know what she's talking about. But it's just like, you know,
Speaker 3: I kind of listen. AJ since she's came back has
Speaker 3: blown her away in every shape and form. She's kept
Speaker 3: it funny, comical, and she puts it. Oh man, she
Speaker 3: lays down facts. Oh, it's that she's a fantastic, amazing
Speaker 3: on the mic. Oh I agree, I agree. So, but
Speaker 3: coming back one on one match after ten years, I
Speaker 3: don't see it.
Speaker 2: No, no much.
Speaker 3: I'd love AJ to go ahead and just take that
Speaker 3: title and make a run. I gotta put Becky on that,
Speaker 3: especially especially if Seth Rollins in that crate.
Speaker 2: You think it's Seth Rollins in the crate.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's uh Jericho because Jericho is still
Speaker 3: in the contract.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a rumor that it's Dan Housen, which would
Speaker 2: make sense, and I hope it is.
Speaker 3: That's another room. I actually, I actually, while I was
Speaker 3: waiting to get on the air, I went ahead in
Speaker 3: and a hide the question who is in the air.
Speaker 3: It came down it's either Chris Jericho, Dan Housen, Seth
Speaker 3: Rollins or Bianca Belle Air.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be honest.
Speaker 3: There is other rumors of a person named Evil from
Speaker 3: New Japan.
Speaker 2: Well that would be a letdown. Nobody. Nobody's gonna know
Speaker 2: who that is.
Speaker 3: Nobody. Yeah, I think that's way out there. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be wouln't be these four. I
Speaker 3: weighs three now, Dan Housen, seth Rollins, Bianca Belle. I
Speaker 3: think they originally wanted Jericho in there, Yeah, but then
Speaker 3: they found out it's contracts frozen. Which how do you
Speaker 3: not know that when you make these plans and sign
Speaker 3: them under contract?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well unless somebody put that out there deliberately to
Speaker 2: throw us, because Jericho is a master of that. But
Speaker 2: but we don't even know. It might not be a
Speaker 2: person in the crate. It might be something an object
Speaker 2: in the crate that refers to the person who will
Speaker 2: then come out on stage. But if, but if, if
Speaker 2: someone literally emerges from the crate, it's probably Dan Housen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I hope so because that would be awesome because
Speaker 2: I've only seen a little bit of Dan Housen's work
Speaker 2: in aw but the little bit that I've seen I
Speaker 2: loved is fantastic. I hope it's Dan Housen.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, I'm kind of looking forward to that.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen much of him, so yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 3: if he's half as incredible as I heard, ye, then yeah,
Speaker 3: it would be nice to see.
Speaker 2: He's a lot of fun. That would be fun.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I got Becky on this.
Speaker 2: Match, Yeah, me too, Me too, say.
Speaker 3: And finally this match, which I kind of think is
Speaker 3: just a fluffer match really for seeing Punk Punk and Balor.
Speaker 3: I don't see Balo winning and him being the headline
Speaker 3: for WrestleMania, although I've gone back and forth and thinking
Speaker 3: see him. Punk is always wanted to headline WrestleMania. He
Speaker 3: did it last year. He's not as selfish as he
Speaker 3: once was before. Right, He's actually come back and helped
Speaker 3: out a lot of people. He's willing to go ahead
Speaker 3: and take bumps for people. He might do this because
Speaker 3: Finn Baller earned it. He may drop the title for him.
Speaker 3: So Finn Roman reigns going at it.
Speaker 2: That's a problem. No, okay.
Speaker 3: So I mean they could always and this is what
Speaker 3: I said on my on the other show I'm on,
Speaker 3: they can always pivot like they pivoted if with WrestleMania
Speaker 3: forty when it was supposed to be Rains against the
Speaker 3: Rock and everybody chanted Cody. You know, Cody should make
Speaker 3: the decision. Blah blah blah. They can always pivot like
Speaker 3: they did. Then they can put the title on Finn.
Speaker 3: And they got a month and a half before WrestleMania.
Speaker 3: They can get him rematch somewhere in there where Finn
Speaker 3: drops it again.
Speaker 2: That's a rumor that's out there. I hate that idea,
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you why I don't. First of all,
Speaker 2: I don't want anything interrupting the build between Roman Reigns
Speaker 2: and Seampong because that first face to face promo that
Speaker 2: they did was fire. I loved that promo. The other
Speaker 2: can so fight, I know. But the other problem but no,
Speaker 2: actually yet, not at WrestleMania, because then it's going to
Speaker 2: be Roman Reigns versus Finn Balor if Baler's the champion.
Speaker 2: The other problem I have is I really don't like
Speaker 2: the idea of Balor wins the belt and then see
Speaker 2: him punk wins it back sometime between now and WrestleMania.
Speaker 2: Then you're hot shotting the title. I really don't like that.
Speaker 2: That's something I hated during the Attitude era, and I
Speaker 2: don't want to see it now. So I don't like
Speaker 2: that idea. I think what happens is Balor loses again,
Speaker 2: but he's clearly on his way I think to a
Speaker 2: to a full on baby face turn, and I think
Speaker 2: he will lose again. I think he will be humble
Speaker 2: about it, and that will be his face turn and
Speaker 2: he'll he'll go back to being a babyface. That's what
Speaker 2: I think is gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've definitely seen the writing on the wall there
Speaker 3: where Finn is Just listen, I don't need you guys.
Speaker 3: You know I want to do this alone. Yeah, let me
Speaker 3: do it while on what you know that that's the
Speaker 3: sign of a heel a face turn right there? Yeah,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I just but see, here's the thing. He's
Speaker 3: doing everything that Punk is telling him to do. You
Speaker 3: would think doing what he says that would make him champion. Dude,
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, It's it's tough. It's the heart
Speaker 3: wants to see Finn with the championship, but the timing
Speaker 3: right now is just not there yet. So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go ahead and say Punk is gonna win. Yeah, Punk
Speaker 3: will win at Mania, and then Finn will get another
Speaker 3: chance at after Mania.
Speaker 5: Hm.
Speaker 2: Maybe, But I am. I am intrigued to see where
Speaker 2: they're going with Finn Valor. But but I don't think
Speaker 2: he wins the I don't think he wins the title tonight.
Speaker 2: Uh what what did you think of the promo? But
Speaker 2: between uh, punk and Roman reigns.
Speaker 3: Oh, I agree with you. It was spot on fire.
Speaker 3: It was it was a volcano erupting on both ends.
Speaker 3: I loved it. I just to the point of, you know,
Speaker 3: Romans like, I picked you because I hate you. Yep,
Speaker 3: And this is gonna be the best line of my
Speaker 3: life because I'm just gonna go ahead and beat you,
Speaker 3: to give you the beating you deserve, and I take
Speaker 3: back my title. Blah blah blah. You know, I'm just
Speaker 3: waiting and waiting for the tribal chief to have a
Speaker 3: tribe again.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: He hasn't had one yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's kind of.
Speaker 3: I think somewhere along the line, I think it does
Speaker 3: come to where we finally get all the Samoans in line.
Speaker 3: I think we get fought too, we get the usos.
Speaker 3: I don't see Solo coming back on there. I think
Speaker 3: he's got his MFTs, which I will. I will go
Speaker 3: ahead and tell you I like Solo as that Gangsters
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: Two Jenny's commented on that too, that he's really grown
Speaker 2: in the role. I have a problem. I have a
Speaker 2: problem though, with the MFT gimmick. I hate the face paint.
Speaker 2: It makes them look No, it makes them look like juggalos.
Speaker 2: This isn't this isn't supposed to be ICP. It's supposed
Speaker 2: to be MFT. It looks ridiculous on them, especially on Tomatonga.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why, because the great thing about
Speaker 2: Tomatonga is he's got a very expressive face, and why
Speaker 2: would you want to hide it under all that makeup?
Speaker 2: So much of what like, so much of what his
Speaker 2: character is is you know, he's got that weird sound
Speaker 2: that he makes, but also just his facial expressions that
Speaker 2: that's what makes him compelling as Tomatonga. And then you
Speaker 2: slap all that makeup on him and he covers his
Speaker 2: face and it looks I know. And I did read
Speaker 2: online that I guess that he and Tongaaloa they wore
Speaker 2: the war paint when they were the Gorillas of Destiny
Speaker 2: in Japan. I just I just think it looks awful.
Speaker 2: I think they look ridiculous. I think it's they look
Speaker 2: like juggalos. And again, no disrespect to the juggalos. I
Speaker 2: played in a band once where we actually had some
Speaker 2: jugglers who were into us. So whatever I'm laughing not
Speaker 2: has mean disagreeing.
Speaker 3: I actually agree with you on that. But it's it's
Speaker 3: it's given them the identity it really is. You know,
Speaker 3: granted call them, you know, they look like jugglers whatever
Speaker 3: the case. Maybe juggles is still pretty. They're pretty bad
Speaker 3: Like that isn't good? Okay, I was gonna use you know,
Speaker 3: I was gonna use bad a, but you know we're
Speaker 3: an FM.
Speaker 2: So you can say badass. That's not a problem.
Speaker 3: Badass. They're badasses. So that the paint, I don't think, like,
Speaker 3: you know, lowers their standard. I think it's just it
Speaker 3: is a look that they're going for.
Speaker 2: It's so bad. I think it looks so silly, like
Speaker 2: cringe when I see It's like, what are you guys doing?
Speaker 3: They need they need I like this whole thing that
Speaker 3: they're doing against with the Wyat Sixes, there needs to
Speaker 3: be more. There needs to be more context in that
Speaker 3: and to some point where hopefully there's still time that
Speaker 3: there is like a five on five family versus family match. Wait,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of hoping for that.
Speaker 2: They haven't done that already.
Speaker 3: No, they've done Tag Team champ because that the not
Speaker 3: the U. The Sixers are still Tag Team Champions use
Speaker 3: so many times they've defended that how many like one.
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, man, it's like nobody's really doing
Speaker 3: anything about these tag team titles. That's the that's the
Speaker 3: one downfall I have with with WW. Right now, Jake
Speaker 3: Carghill has defended the title twice once twice something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where is she?
Speaker 3: Then she's over here talking about how she is the
Speaker 3: b now in w W.
Speaker 2: I love her promos though, I love her. I love
Speaker 2: her as a heel. She's fantastic as a heel. I
Speaker 2: love her.
Speaker 3: But the point is fight. Yeah, you need to fight.
Speaker 2: That's okay. Though she's a heel. Heels are supposed to
Speaker 2: be a little bit cowardly, you know, to alter little bit.
Speaker 3: She is complete. Yeah, she's complete.
Speaker 2: Talk Yeah. Loving her character though, and she she's believable too,
Speaker 2: Like when she delivers that line that we can't say
Speaker 2: on the air, she's like, you believe it, right, Like
Speaker 2: she's so good. She is so good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, promo wise, she's great. I keep hearing that she's
Speaker 3: really green. I mean I see her work. She's not
Speaker 3: that green.
Speaker 2: No, I think she gets a lot of unfair criticism.
Speaker 2: I've said I've said this from the beginning. I think
Speaker 2: she's better in the ring than she gets credit for.
Speaker 2: And I will also say she's improved a lot I had. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and she doesn't get the credit for it though people
Speaker 2: online just crap all over. I think she's I think
Speaker 2: she's much better than she gets credit for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree, she she's she's cleaned up. Listen,
Speaker 3: I've seen her in some of these matches before. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I've seen botches all over the place. Sure, I see
Speaker 3: just like things like, oh man, is she gonna get
Speaker 3: up after that?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's and again, like we had mentioned before,
Speaker 3: fakeer real, this is real, It is calculated, real, you
Speaker 3: are trained to take these bumps in a certain way.
Speaker 3: And with Jade doing the stuff she was doing when
Speaker 3: she first got called up, which is why you saw
Speaker 3: her sporadically, you know why, because her behind was down
Speaker 3: there in the performance center trying to work on her craft, right,
Speaker 3: you know, I could see why AW got rid of her.
Speaker 3: I mean, with the little the little integrity they have
Speaker 3: over there. A w Yeah, they need they need to
Speaker 3: go ahead and just say all right, we can't have
Speaker 3: you injuring anybody else, Go get out of here, be gone.
Speaker 3: So but no, they they w W sees that the
Speaker 3: the talent there, and you know, they've worked with her,
Speaker 3: giving her chance after chance, and they saw something. That's
Speaker 3: why she was made Queen of their Right. That's why
Speaker 3: she's currently a champion.
Speaker 2: Right. Oh, one other thing we had to wrap up soon.
Speaker 2: But just as we're talking about Jade Cargill and her
Speaker 2: being better than what she gets credit for, what do
Speaker 2: you think about Chelsea Green Because there's also been some
Speaker 2: controversy And again, I know you haven't watched the new
Speaker 2: season of Unreal, but one of the things that's come up,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen the chatter about this online. You know,
Speaker 2: Michael Hayes kind of makes some comments in there indicating
Speaker 2: that Chelsea Green is you know, upper mid card, but
Speaker 2: that's kind of her ceiling. But she's, you know, she's
Speaker 2: great at what she does. But but there's a lot
Speaker 2: of people who are saying, no, she should be in
Speaker 2: main events, like she's that good, she's that entertaining, and
Speaker 2: I tend to agree with that. I'm curious what you
Speaker 2: think because it seems to me everything she's ever been
Speaker 2: given to do, Chelsea Green, she knocks it out of
Speaker 2: the park. I mean, she's so good and She's another
Speaker 2: example too of a heel. She's supposed to be a heel,
Speaker 2: but obviously the fans love her because she's so talented,
Speaker 2: and she's so good at everything she does, and she's
Speaker 2: so likable and funny. So I think she's I think
Speaker 2: she should be. I think she deserves a bigger push
Speaker 2: than she gets. What do you think There's.
Speaker 3: A lot of people we could give pushes too that
Speaker 3: we want, right, we all thinking I should get a
Speaker 3: bigger push. You know Chelsea Green, she You're right. She
Speaker 3: goes ahead and with what she has been given as
Speaker 3: the quote unquote you know, president in in.
Speaker 2: Her in her, the secret, hervist, the hervest.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I'm like, I'm thinking that's such a stupid name.
Speaker 3: But then it's like, you know what she's running with it,
Speaker 3: let's go ahead, and I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah, it's fun and she's a heel,
Speaker 2: so it can be stupid.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. I think she's been put into
Speaker 3: a position of she's on an island where she's goofy,
Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, you can't take a main
Speaker 3: event or that's goofy. That's the problem with that is,
Speaker 3: you know, to to kind of retrospect on everything you take.
Speaker 3: You take like the Olsen Twins, there were child actresses. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you can't seriously as an adult actresses anymore, even though
Speaker 3: they're not coming back, but still you can't take them seriously. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're always gonna be labeled child actresses. So are you
Speaker 3: gonna cast them in a leading role?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: Chelsea Green is put into this category unfortunately, that she
Speaker 3: is a goofy, goofy character.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think with a little bit of creativity, though,
Speaker 2: I think they could.
Speaker 3: She needs yes, and she needs to basically have her
Speaker 3: character redone. She can't go ahead with the Harvest. She
Speaker 3: would have to be another another version of Chelsea Green
Speaker 3: to go ahead and make any type of serious move.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's so much another version as just
Speaker 2: take her, just evolve her in a way, maybe make
Speaker 2: her a little bit more serious, maybe maybe do a
Speaker 2: babyface turn.
Speaker 3: But but if you if you would go ahead and
Speaker 3: be creative to Chelsea Green, how would you go ahead
Speaker 3: and pivot that baby face? I don't think would be enough. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I.
Speaker 2: Think I think they can get there with her, because
Speaker 2: I mean, it'd be worth taking the risk, because, like
Speaker 2: I said, everything they've ever given her to do, she succeeds. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of I kind of think of
Speaker 2: her the way I used to think of Live Morgan,
Speaker 2: because for a long time, I would think, why isn't
Speaker 2: Live Morgan in main events? She's got everything, she is
Speaker 2: so good. I was saying this a couple of years
Speaker 2: ago and then but fortunately in the case of Live Morgan,
Speaker 2: they did finally figure it out, and now she's a
Speaker 2: main eventor and she's incredible, But she's she's kind of
Speaker 2: in that same category in my mind where I used
Speaker 2: to think Live Morgan she's perpetually stuck in the mid card.
Speaker 2: But everything they've ever given her to do, she succeeds.
Speaker 2: She's so good, She's good at everything, promos or in
Speaker 2: rey work, everything she does is so good. Why isn't
Speaker 2: she in main events? But she did get there. They
Speaker 2: got there with.
Speaker 3: Her, and she probably went ahead and voiced her opinion
Speaker 3: and Chelsea Green me not you voiced her opinion as
Speaker 3: much as she should.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe who knows.
Speaker 3: So probably it's a lot of back at politics type stuff.
Speaker 3: That's probably where you're hearing all this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Charles, we are rapidly approaching the top of
Speaker 2: the hour, we got to go. But I appreciate you
Speaker 2: so much. It's always wonderful to speak with you. Great
Speaker 2: to have you on the show. And I know we
Speaker 2: do have you booked for another appearance coming up, but
Speaker 2: Elimination Chamber Mania.
Speaker 3: What so Mania coming up? In a boy, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: come on on Saturday and we'll talk both nights.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, No, I can't wait and tell us too before
Speaker 2: we go. So you've got, of course the Charles Richardson Show,
Speaker 2: and you do a wrestling podcast, so go ahead and
Speaker 2: tell us about this.
Speaker 3: So my current show, the Charles Richardson showed because of
Speaker 3: personal things I've had going on, has been on hiatus.
Speaker 3: When we return, we're going to be on Wednesday's eight
Speaker 3: to ten on Facebook. Okay, So just to go ahead
Speaker 3: and look us up on Facebook, the Charles Richardson Show,
Speaker 3: and also the Charles richardsonow on YouTube. And the wrestling
Speaker 3: podcast that we have have again no no, no trying
Speaker 3: affiliation with Tough Bumps. It's a little bit different of
Speaker 3: a show that we do. It is called the Josh
Speaker 3: Zodiac Podcast. Josh Sodiac is the one that hosts I
Speaker 3: am co hosting. Okay, bud, you can go ahead and
Speaker 3: find them on all social media platforms. The Josh Zodiac Podcast.
Speaker 2: Very good, very good, and while we're at it too,
Speaker 2: I will mention tough bumps. Of course, Eric and I
Speaker 2: will be on. Eric Pilcher and I and Austin Hicks
Speaker 2: usually joins us most weeks as well. We'll be on
Speaker 2: tomorrow night, Sunday night, I think at seven pm, no,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, six pm Eastern. It changes every week, but
Speaker 2: you can find that of course on Facebook and YouTube
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Speaker 2: because once we're off the air here, this goes up
Speaker 2: into the podcast dost sphere, and of course you can
Speaker 2: find it on the WM and H website and my
Speaker 2: website Matt Connorton dot com. But Charles, again, thank you
Speaker 2: so much, my friend. Always great to talk to you
Speaker 2: and look forward to the next time.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Have a good one, all right, brother, you.
Speaker 2: Got to take care all right. That is Charles Richardson
Speaker 2: from The Charles Richardson Show and the Zach oh sorry,
Speaker 2: the Josh Zodiac Podcast. Sometimes in my mind I create
Speaker 2: amalgams of words, the Josh Zodiac I almost said the
Speaker 2: Jodiac or something podcast for more wrestling content, and thank
Speaker 2: you everybody who joined us today. Of course we had
Speaker 2: Peter the photographer with us in the first hour. I'm
Speaker 2: actually going to end the show today with We're gonna
Speaker 2: play another spin of the Ballad of twenty six, such
Speaker 2: a great song, and he performed live for us, just incredible.
Speaker 2: And of course in the second hour we had Elijah
Speaker 2: Jenkins from the band Moving On all the way from
Speaker 2: Liverpool joining us. I've always loved talking to him. We've
Speaker 2: spin on before and he's just incredible. And of course
Speaker 2: our friend Charles Richardson. So if you did miss any
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Speaker 2: us for now. We will talk with y'all a little
Speaker 2: bit later. Hi, everybody, But I'll be.
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