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1:33 Speaker 2: et cetera. Today is April eleven, twenty twenty six. Jenny

1:38 Speaker 2: is here at the news table and joining us. It's

1:42 Speaker 2: his first time on the show. We have filmmaker Tyler

1:45 Speaker 2: Laplant is here with us. Hello Tyler, Hello, Hello, thanks

1:48 Speaker 2: so much for having me. Absolutely So you are from Nashua, correct, Yes, Nashua,

1:53 Speaker 2: New Hampshire. And of course you've got a short film

1:57 Speaker 2: called Joey's Big Reveal.

1:58 Speaker 1: That I do, yes, tell us about it. Uh, yeah,

2:01 Speaker 1: so I shot so a little I guess a little

2:04 Speaker 1: bit about me. I've been working professionally in the film

2:06 Speaker 1: and television industry for uh coming up on five years,

2:10 Speaker 1: which is pretty great. Right now, I work as a grip.

2:13 Speaker 1: Uh So I work in the lighting department, and I'm

2:17 Speaker 1: I've been doing that for a while and I've always

2:20 Speaker 1: wanted to be a writer director And you know, this

2:24 Speaker 1: isn't the first project that I've I've written and directed,

2:26 Speaker 1: but this is this is like the first real one.

2:29 Speaker 2: Okay.

2:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is Joey's big reveal, and you know,

2:34 Speaker 1: I made it with a really incredible group of you know,

2:37 Speaker 1: New England cast and crew. You know, it's an absurdist

2:41 Speaker 1: comedy and you know kind of in the veins of

2:45 Speaker 1: I think you should leave. So I'm really you know,

2:47 Speaker 1: we're so close to being done, so I'm really excited

2:50 Speaker 1: to get it out there.

2:50 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, uh, by the way, so you mentioned a grip.

2:54 Speaker 2: What is a grip? Because I remember, you know, even

2:56 Speaker 2: when I was a kid, I would see in the

2:58 Speaker 2: closing credits of things like key grip and things like that, Yeah,

3:00 Speaker 2: and never knowing what that is.

3:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so, okay, so within you know, the

3:06 Speaker 1: way kind of movies work, you'll have you know, your

3:08 Speaker 1: camera department, your sound apartment, light department, you know whatnot.

3:12 Speaker 1: Within the lighting department, it's kind of split up between

3:14 Speaker 1: two groups, grips and electricians. The best way for me

3:18 Speaker 1: to describe it is like electricians will set the lights

3:21 Speaker 1: up and then grips we diffuse the light. We add shadow.

3:26 Speaker 1: We also provide camera support. So if you're ever watching,

3:30 Speaker 1: you know, a movie or show and there's like, you

3:32 Speaker 1: know that shot where they're all you know, cameras following them,

3:35 Speaker 1: that's a dolly shot that typically, you know, a dolly

3:38 Speaker 1: grip would be operating the piece of equipment that's actually

3:41 Speaker 1: making the camera move. So we do lighting, we do

3:44 Speaker 1: camera support.

3:45 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So what what got you started? I when

3:50 Speaker 2: when I listened to your interview on Ray's show.

3:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, the shout out Ray Dudley, great guy.

3:56 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I don't think I've ever met Ray, but

3:58 Speaker 2: but I grew to like him very quickly listening to that.

4:01 Speaker 2: That interview is a great interviewer. Oh yeah, So, and

4:04 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it, and you were very good in that.

4:05 Speaker 2: I enjoyed your conversation with him, So I got to

4:09 Speaker 2: cheat a little bit learn some things about you ahead

4:10 Speaker 2: of time. But but so you were talking about this

4:14 Speaker 2: was very interesting to me. So you had a job

4:16 Speaker 2: where your boss basically said to you one day, I

4:21 Speaker 2: don't think, Yeah, I don't think you want to be here,

4:23 Speaker 2: so I'm gonna let you go and you can go

4:25 Speaker 2: and make movies. Yeah, tell that story for our listeners.

4:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, absolutely. So I was working at a place

4:30 Speaker 1: called New Sky Productions out of Nashville, New Hampshire, and

4:34 Speaker 1: they kind of focused on advertising and like kind of

4:39 Speaker 1: doc you style advertising for like local businesses in and

4:43 Speaker 1: around New England. And I was working under this guy,

4:45 Speaker 1: Grant Morris, and and I'd worked for him, you know,

4:51 Speaker 1: while I was in high school, and then after i'd graduated,

4:54 Speaker 1: and it was the summer I graduated that and this

4:56 Speaker 1: was during COVID by the way, so like twenty twenty

5:00 Speaker 1: somewhere I graduated high school. My you know, he came,

5:04 Speaker 1: he brought me into the office and said like, hey man,

5:06 Speaker 1: you want to go make movies. You know, like I

5:08 Speaker 1: could certainly have you here, and but you're going to

5:11 Speaker 1: be wasting your your ambition. It was really tough because

5:14 Speaker 1: like I loved working there, and I thought maybe like okay,

5:17 Speaker 1: you know, I'll do the advertisement thing and you know,

5:19 Speaker 1: maybe do something more practical. But that being fired from

5:23 Speaker 1: that really kind of Yeah, it was the you know,

5:26 Speaker 1: I to this day, I still say thanks to him

5:28 Speaker 1: because now I'm out here making movies. I'm going to

5:31 Speaker 1: LA on Monday, so I'm I'm really excited. So I've

5:35 Speaker 1: you know, so it opened a lot of doors.

5:37 Speaker 2: So it was the right thing. Oh yeah, but that's

5:39 Speaker 2: tough love, right, I mean, you know, because it sounds

5:42 Speaker 2: like he didn't it sounds like he didn't call you

5:44 Speaker 2: in and say, hey, I'm thinking maybe you should get

5:49 Speaker 2: like he fired you.

5:50 Speaker 1: He literally straight up, He's like, yeah, you know, I

5:52 Speaker 1: think you learned enough here go out and make movies.

5:55 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So how did you feel like in

5:58 Speaker 2: that moment was there? Were you excited? Were you a

6:00 Speaker 2: little bit panicked? Were you like, I don't know, I

6:03 Speaker 2: don't know.

6:04 Speaker 1: I bawled my eyes out, did you because you said

6:07 Speaker 1: you actually loved working there? Oh yeah, I loved it.

6:09 Speaker 1: I mean it was a great environment. I was doing

6:11 Speaker 1: something cool and interesting, and you know, I was kind

6:15 Speaker 1: of heartbroken and then but but afterwards I was like, yeah, no,

6:18 Speaker 1: this is this is the this is the way to

6:20 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, And it was probably probably one of

6:22 Speaker 1: the better better times I've been fired in my.

6:24 Speaker 2: Life, right right, So then what was your next move

6:28 Speaker 2: after that? Like, right after that happened, what was the

6:29 Speaker 2: next thing that you did?

6:30 Speaker 1: Actually, this is a great kind of segue for some

6:33 Speaker 1: of the casts for Joey's Big Reveal because I worked

6:35 Speaker 1: on this, uh this short film. It's still on YouTube

6:37 Speaker 1: if you really want to find it. It's called Retribution.

6:40 Speaker 1: It's a short film that I shot and two of

6:43 Speaker 1: my other buddies from Nashua, they you know, they wrote

6:45 Speaker 1: it and directed it together, and we brought on this

6:50 Speaker 1: guy named David Torres Junior to play our you know,

6:54 Speaker 1: bad guy and our main you know, like mafia bad guy.

6:58 Speaker 1: And he came on and it was actually his first

7:02 Speaker 1: he he had just gotten into acting and it was

7:04 Speaker 1: his uh it was his first time like actually speaking

7:07 Speaker 1: like you know, for a role, like any role. Once

7:10 Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, that's really great.

7:12 Speaker 2: Uh.

7:12 Speaker 1: David and I kept in contact for you know, past

7:15 Speaker 1: five years, and he's really been working on some great stuff,

7:18 Speaker 1: getting a lot of great experience. And you know, I

7:21 Speaker 1: wrote this project and Joey's Burg Reveal is kind of

7:24 Speaker 1: like a mafioso type movie, so yeah, I needed somebody

7:28 Speaker 1: to play that and you know, I remember watching a

7:31 Speaker 1: movie he was in called Ephis that came out last year,

7:33 Speaker 1: a baseball movie, and I'm like, man, this guy really

7:36 Speaker 1: is truly fantastic. So I called him up and and

7:39 Speaker 1: we I pretty much just gave him the part right

7:40 Speaker 1: then and there, and you know, it's been history ever since.

7:43 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So did you like when you when you left,

7:48 Speaker 2: when you left that job, was that like, like, did

7:51 Speaker 2: you jump right into Oh?

7:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tried working on pretty much the ideas, Like

7:55 Speaker 1: there's like I looked called the Short Film Circuit Massachusetts,

7:58 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of short films happening. So you

8:01 Speaker 1: hop on the Facebook group. I hopped on the Facebook groups. Yeah,

8:04 Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, you know, I'd love to work

8:06 Speaker 1: on people's projects whatever, little no experience, you know, put

8:10 Speaker 1: me in coach and I got reached out by Victor

8:14 Speaker 1: Herman and Jana Cipriano, and I ended up being the

8:18 Speaker 1: assistant director. You put heavy quotations around that because I

8:21 Speaker 1: have at the time, I had no idea what an

8:23 Speaker 1: assistant director did, and I was like a glorified PA.

8:26 Speaker 1: But I worked on their films Woodshedding by Victor and

8:30 Speaker 1: and Trauma bond by Jana and that sort of got

8:33 Speaker 1: me in a position to meet a lot of industry

8:35 Speaker 1: professionals around the area. And you know, I started being

8:39 Speaker 1: a production assistant from that for about a year until

8:42 Speaker 1: I moved into the grip department.

8:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got you got busy quickly. It wasn't

8:46 Speaker 2: like you were languishing trying to figure out your next

8:49 Speaker 2: move necessarily, like you you.

8:52 Speaker 1: What's that I said that would come later on?

8:54 Speaker 2: Oh really okay, But but initially, like you jumped right in.

8:57 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I'd be working for free and

8:59 Speaker 1: then and you know, eventually I got really lucky and

9:02 Speaker 1: reached out to work on a couple of like really

9:04 Speaker 1: big projects, like very early on real my career, Confess Fletch,

9:09 Speaker 1: a movie with John Ham It's a Chevy Chase remake.

9:12 Speaker 1: They filmed it out in Massachusetts. And you know, I

9:16 Speaker 1: got a call from a buddy who I worked on on,

9:19 Speaker 1: you know, the previous short films, and they're like, hey,

9:21 Speaker 1: come up, I'm going on vacation, come work on this

9:23 Speaker 1: fifteen million dollar movie.

9:24 Speaker 4: Wow.

9:25 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, yeah, I called out of my

9:27 Speaker 1: job at home Depot at the time, and you know, yeah,

9:31 Speaker 1: it was it was great.

9:32 Speaker 2: Yeah. So something interesting too that you mentioned. I remember

9:37 Speaker 2: hearing you say this Toray too. You know, you talked

9:40 Speaker 2: about the short film circuit. So is it because it

9:44 Speaker 2: never would have even necessarily occurred to me that there

9:46 Speaker 2: was a short film circuit so to speak. But are

9:50 Speaker 2: there a lot more short films being made than maybe

9:53 Speaker 2: most people even realize?

9:54 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, one, I mean there's a lot of there's

9:59 Speaker 1: a lot of big project or sorry, there's a lot

10:01 Speaker 1: of smaller projects. You know, a lot of a lot

10:03 Speaker 1: of people trying to make like you know, Instagram type

10:06 Speaker 1: content like comedy stuff whatever.

10:08 Speaker 2: Yeah.

10:08 Speaker 1: And then you know, you have a lot of college kids,

10:10 Speaker 1: a lot of film schools around here Keene State, Emerson,

10:14 Speaker 1: so you have a lot of them working on their movies.

10:17 Speaker 1: And then you have a lot of industry professionals who

10:20 Speaker 1: you know, are like, hey, you know, I like making movies.

10:23 Speaker 1: So then you work on your friends films, and there's

10:26 Speaker 1: there's a good amount like if you want to hop

10:28 Speaker 1: in and at least in Massachusetts, there is a healthy

10:30 Speaker 1: amount of projects that you could work at least for

10:33 Speaker 1: free to start until you you know, kind of figure

10:35 Speaker 1: out what you're worth.

10:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really interesting because, like I said, I don't

10:38 Speaker 2: think most people realize just how much of that is

10:40 Speaker 2: being done. And so what differentiates a short film? Well,

10:47 Speaker 2: let me ask it this way. Sure, how long can

10:49 Speaker 2: a short film be to still be considered a short

10:51 Speaker 2: film versus a feature film? Like what's kind of the

10:55 Speaker 2: what's kind of the line in terms of I mean,

10:57 Speaker 2: there's probably no like official rule, but.

11:01 Speaker 1: No, actually I think I believe it or not. I

11:02 Speaker 1: think I think there is like an official rule of

11:05 Speaker 1: like I think it's anything over sixty minutes is like

11:10 Speaker 1: defined as a feature, okay, whereas I don't know. I

11:13 Speaker 1: mean I've worked on short films that you know, are

11:16 Speaker 1: two minutes long, and I've worked on short films that

11:18 Speaker 1: are forty eight minutes long. Like yeah, I think the

11:21 Speaker 1: idea is like if you're under an hour, it's a

11:24 Speaker 1: short film. Okay, you know, it's the sort of I

11:27 Speaker 1: guess like going, you know, going basis.

11:29 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, okay, okay. Were there particular short films

11:34 Speaker 2: that inspired you to really want to do that?

11:37 Speaker 5: Oh?

11:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, you know working on I've worked on a

11:41 Speaker 1: project called wood Shedding, like really early on really close

11:45 Speaker 1: friend of mine and mentor my buddy. Victor Herman wrote

11:48 Speaker 1: and directed and produced that movie. And you know, being

11:52 Speaker 1: being with somebody like I think the guy's a fantastic

11:55 Speaker 1: writer director like his his work really really resonates with me. So,

11:59 Speaker 1: you know, being able to to work under a guy

12:01 Speaker 1: like that and and you know get to become like

12:04 Speaker 1: not not not just a mentor, but just pals, just buddies,

12:07 Speaker 1: like we get you know, we'll we'll get together and

12:09 Speaker 1: watch movies together, like you know, it's it's it's it's nice.

12:12 Speaker 1: So to be able to have that was was huge.

12:16 Speaker 1: So like wood Shedding was was a big one for me,

12:19 Speaker 1: Trauma Bond was another big one for me early on

12:23 Speaker 1: my movie Retribution that I shot Like that was like

12:26 Speaker 1: it was just it was just fun and I felt

12:29 Speaker 1: happy with what I am proud of what I was making.

12:31 Speaker 1: You know, I've worked on a lot of really great stuff, uh,

12:35 Speaker 1: in terms of short films by Lando Michael t another

12:39 Speaker 1: incredible writer director out in New England. We worked together

12:43 Speaker 1: on the Whitney Houston movie that came out a few

12:45 Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah. Now I've been fortunate enough to work

12:49 Speaker 1: on like big stuff, little stuff, right, but yeah, a

12:52 Speaker 1: lot of great short films around here?

12:54 Speaker 2: Is there is there almost like uh, in terms of

12:59 Speaker 2: organ on a short film, is there something exciting about

13:03 Speaker 2: knowing that you're working on something that is going to

13:07 Speaker 2: You're going to get to the end of it quicker?

13:10 Speaker 2: In theory, I mean, every project is different than say

13:13 Speaker 2: a feature film, because I would think if you're someone

13:16 Speaker 2: who you know, you want that because there's a certain

13:18 Speaker 2: gratification that comes from that right when you complete, When

13:21 Speaker 2: you complete anything, there's you know, you get that endorphin

13:23 Speaker 2: rush right when you can create anything that matters to you.

13:26 Speaker 2: But with a short film, is there something appealing about Okay,

13:30 Speaker 2: it's a short film. It's not going to take as

13:32 Speaker 2: long to do as a feature film. So I'm going

13:35 Speaker 2: to get to see the end results of this and

13:38 Speaker 2: reach that end point quicker and that's exciting or maybe not.

13:42 Speaker 2: I don't know.

13:42 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's you know, it's different. I'm coming

13:45 Speaker 1: more from like a crew I want to answer this

13:47 Speaker 1: more from a crew perspective of not to sound hard

13:50 Speaker 1: and like because I was just you know, I love

13:52 Speaker 1: short films and working on them. Yeah, but it is hard.

13:55 Speaker 1: Typically they're unpaid and they're twelve hour days long. Which

13:58 Speaker 1: is average day in and you know, on set working

14:01 Speaker 1: on movies. But so it's like a twelve hour long day.

14:04 Speaker 1: You're not being paid typically you know, the people who

14:07 Speaker 1: are producing the short film are green and or you know,

14:11 Speaker 1: there are issues, so it's like you know, maybe food

14:14 Speaker 1: isn't good, or maybe you know, everybody has to move

14:18 Speaker 1: their car eight times because parking is a real pain.

14:20 Speaker 2: Right you know.

14:22 Speaker 1: And also it's like I I there are definitely short

14:26 Speaker 1: films I've worked on that are very very good, But

14:28 Speaker 1: there's a lot of short films that I've worked on

14:30 Speaker 1: that either like the script doesn't emotionally resonate with me

14:33 Speaker 1: or whatever, like I'm helping a friend out or you know,

14:35 Speaker 1: like I have nothing going on this Sunday and they're like, hey,

14:37 Speaker 1: come work for two hundred and fifty bucks. I'll be

14:39 Speaker 1: like okay. So there's no Honestly, there's more of an

14:42 Speaker 1: emotional I guess there's more of like an emotional return

14:45 Speaker 1: working on a feature because you have worked so long

14:48 Speaker 1: on it, whereas short films are just like they're for

14:51 Speaker 1: me at least like when I'm working them on them.

14:53 Speaker 1: From a crew perspective, they're kind of just like quick

14:55 Speaker 1: jobs like okay, you know, like yeah, this will be

14:57 Speaker 1: done and over with, whereas a feature will be like okay,

15:00 Speaker 1: like I'm here for anywhere from like fifteen to like

15:04 Speaker 1: sixty seventy days, like depending on what it is.

15:06 Speaker 2: So interesting? Uh, if you're just joining us, we're talking

15:10 Speaker 2: with Tyler Laplant. He is a filmmaker from Nashua, New Hampshire.

15:16 Speaker 2: So what are are there a lot of differences? I mean,

15:21 Speaker 2: obviously a feature film has a larger budget. But in

15:24 Speaker 2: terms of the actual process of making a film, is

15:27 Speaker 2: there much different from making a short film and making

15:29 Speaker 2: a feature film?

15:31 Speaker 6: No?

15:31 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's obviously a much bigger task

15:35 Speaker 1: making a feature. You know, really everything from logistics to

15:39 Speaker 1: creative but really the parts, right, the core, yes, oh yeah,

15:44 Speaker 1: but the core, the core of filmmaking can be found

15:47 Speaker 1: through the short film experience, where you need to write

15:51 Speaker 1: a cohesive script, you need to rewrite that script five, six,

15:55 Speaker 1: seven times, You need to raise funds, you need to

16:00 Speaker 1: work with actors and department heads and crew and dealing.

16:06 Speaker 1: You know. I feel like maybe on features you'll have

16:07 Speaker 1: more producers so that you you know, you don't as

16:10 Speaker 1: a director, you don't have to worry about this stuff

16:12 Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, but definitely on shorts, you know, you're

16:15 Speaker 1: you're running around like crazy, so there's a lot of

16:19 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I might have lost track of the question

16:21 Speaker 1: a little bit.

16:21 Speaker 2: No, no, this is no, this is good. No, you're

16:23 Speaker 2: answering it.

16:25 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's definitely you got to learn. You gotta

16:29 Speaker 1: be really good. You got to be really good, and

16:33 Speaker 1: you got to be really on top of your stuff,

16:35 Speaker 1: whether it's a short film or feature film, because you know,

16:39 Speaker 1: if your short film's a nightmare, like you know, you

16:41 Speaker 1: have people who are giving up their time and money

16:44 Speaker 1: to be a part of this. You don't want to

16:45 Speaker 1: waste their time, and you know you're on a limited budget.

16:49 Speaker 1: So it's like I think there are ways that it's

16:51 Speaker 1: like harder on a short film because you have you

16:54 Speaker 1: don't have enough time, like you know, you might have

16:57 Speaker 1: a lot of boundaries, so you know, it's it's kind

17:00 Speaker 1: kind of a it's kind of a balance, Like you know,

17:03 Speaker 1: I find the writing process to be kind of long

17:05 Speaker 1: and arduous sometimes, so like, you know, I want to

17:08 Speaker 1: make a feature but right now I'm just I'm stuck,

17:11 Speaker 1: not stuck, but like I'm in the writing process, and

17:13 Speaker 1: that's just that's going to take as long as it's

17:15 Speaker 1: going to take, right, So as if you have the

17:17 Speaker 1: time and patience for it, then then you can make

17:20 Speaker 1: a short film. And if you have the time patients

17:22 Speaker 1: for that, you can definitely make a feature film.

17:24 Speaker 2: Okay, okay. And then what differentiates a short film from say,

17:30 Speaker 2: because we live in such an interesting time, yeah, in

17:34 Speaker 2: terms of social media and what you can do, I mean,

17:38 Speaker 2: you know, and because you know, these days, anybody can

17:41 Speaker 2: take you know, can take a cell phone with a

17:44 Speaker 2: good camera and record things and shoot things, and and

17:47 Speaker 2: and obviously I'm sure there's a lot of people on

17:52 Speaker 2: social media, on YouTube who consider themselves, you know, some

17:56 Speaker 2: sort of short film. I mean, content creator has become

17:59 Speaker 2: sort of the catch all that.

18:00 Speaker 1: Word tell me why, I'm sorry, Well that's the thing

18:04 Speaker 1: is like, okay, so I don't There definitely are people

18:07 Speaker 1: who are content creator. They watch stuff, say, they make

18:11 Speaker 1: stuff for you to like watch and write your brain

18:13 Speaker 1: written with ye. But there are a lot of people

18:16 Speaker 1: who are like, you know, like oh, you know, like, oh,

18:18 Speaker 1: this is the content that I make and it's art.

18:20 Speaker 1: So you're an artist, say, say you make art? Right,

18:23 Speaker 1: like this whole idea that it's content, that it's something

18:25 Speaker 1: too not to get all like you know, Calmi here,

18:28 Speaker 1: but like something to like buy and and and and

18:31 Speaker 1: consume and and and and spread out. Is like I

18:34 Speaker 1: think it's like a little ridiculous, and I think it's

18:37 Speaker 1: I get that degrading.

18:38 Speaker 2: I get what you're saying.

18:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, yeah, I mean I don't know, Like

18:41 Speaker 1: I I don't look at you know, I look the

18:44 Speaker 1: way I look at Joey's bigger feel it's a short film.

18:46 Speaker 1: You know. I spent damn I spent almost near damn

18:49 Speaker 1: is fine, Oh great, I spent damn near ten ten

18:52 Speaker 1: thousand dollars making this movie.

18:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

18:55 Speaker 1: Uh so to me, it's not just about money. But

18:58 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I had twenty five crew members,

19:01 Speaker 1: I had you know, ten background actors. You know, I

19:04 Speaker 1: had months and months of planning and prepping. I had

19:06 Speaker 1: rewrites you know. Now I'm going through the editing process.

19:09 Speaker 1: So it's like I'm putting in the work for it

19:12 Speaker 1: to be a short film, something that I would like

19:15 Speaker 1: to be a cinematic experience for my audience, right, But yeah,

19:20 Speaker 1: I mean I don't I'm not going to knock. You know,

19:22 Speaker 1: people on on on Instagram or TikTok that are making

19:25 Speaker 1: skits with their friends and that they're considering that filmmaking.

19:29 Speaker 1: Like yeah, that that that is filmmaking, Like go out

19:32 Speaker 1: and make a movie with your phone, Like if you

19:34 Speaker 1: if you you need to want to make a movie,

19:36 Speaker 1: you need to it needs to be something that Like, man,

19:39 Speaker 1: the only way I can feel like a person is

19:41 Speaker 1: if I'm making movies. That's how you're going to be successful,

19:43 Speaker 1: I think. So, Like, if you're that type of person

19:45 Speaker 1: and your only resources is a is a cell phone

19:48 Speaker 1: and your two pals, then go for it. You know.

19:50 Speaker 1: But the idea is that you want to move past

19:53 Speaker 1: that and you want to get better than that because

19:55 Speaker 1: there's a whole world of filmmaking out there right right.

20:00 Speaker 2: You talked about and you mentioned the budget, you know,

20:02 Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars that you've spent on Joey's Big reveal,

20:06 Speaker 2: Like what are some because obviously some of the expenses

20:12 Speaker 2: are obvious, but some might might be not so obvious.

20:14 Speaker 2: So for someone like me who's never worked in that realm,

20:17 Speaker 2: where what are what are some of the things that

20:19 Speaker 2: you pay for? Was so money?

20:20 Speaker 1: The big thing for me was paying my cast and crew. Yeah.

20:24 Speaker 1: That was a lot of short films kind of do

20:26 Speaker 1: the thing where you know, maybe the director of photography

20:30 Speaker 1: or the key grip and the gaffer and the sound

20:32 Speaker 1: guy get paid, but everybody else, you know, kind of

20:34 Speaker 1: falls by the wayside. Yeah, it was really really important

20:38 Speaker 1: for me that each one of my my crew members

20:40 Speaker 1: was paid. You know. It was I was working with

20:43 Speaker 1: SAG members Screen Actors Guild for anybody unfamiliar, so I

20:47 Speaker 1: was working with union members. It had to be you know,

20:49 Speaker 1: I had to pay my cast like a certain percentage.

20:53 Speaker 1: I think it's like or not percentage. I think it's

20:55 Speaker 1: like like two eighty five for micro budget. So it's

20:58 Speaker 1: like that's automatically, you know, I had I had two

21:01 Speaker 1: SAG after members, Like that's automatically, you know, six hundred

21:05 Speaker 1: dollars like, you know, so it's like money, money adds up.

21:08 Speaker 1: So the big thing was labor. Probably the second biggest

21:12 Speaker 1: thing so far has been like post production just in

21:15 Speaker 1: that again, paying my editor, paying my mixer, paying my

21:18 Speaker 1: color correction, uh, the voiceover work that has to go

21:21 Speaker 1: into the movie, you know, So you know, I've been trying.

21:26 Speaker 1: My My big goal is is everybody. Everybody gets paid.

21:30 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of a lot of short films.

21:32 Speaker 1: Then a lot of projects will try to exploit people's

21:34 Speaker 1: labor and they they know that they can get people

21:37 Speaker 1: to work for free, right And you know, my big

21:40 Speaker 1: thing is like, hey, this how this is how my

21:41 Speaker 1: buddies pay bills. And it's not much, but here's what

21:45 Speaker 1: I have. So most of that money went towards paying people.

21:48 Speaker 1: And then you have food, you have costumes, you have

21:52 Speaker 1: you know, oh this lighter isn't working, we need to

21:56 Speaker 1: go get another one. And then you have a pa

21:58 Speaker 1: who decides to tip thirty dollars on lunch even though

22:01 Speaker 1: it's your money.

22:02 Speaker 2: You know, like that has that happened?

22:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, that happened on mine. That's okay, But you know

22:10 Speaker 1: so it it adds up, Yeah, it adds up.

22:13 Speaker 2: Yeah. You almost have to be you know, because you

22:17 Speaker 2: you talked about how when you're doing a short film,

22:19 Speaker 2: you know, you have to be responsible for all these

22:21 Speaker 2: things that you know, like the money. For example, like

22:23 Speaker 2: if you're making a feature and you're the director, well

22:25 Speaker 2: you know you've got producers who are yeah you're not

22:27 Speaker 2: you're not worried about the money. Well, the short film.

22:29 Speaker 2: You're worried about everything, and it's almost like you have

22:31 Speaker 2: to be an accountant on top of everything else. Yeah,

22:34 Speaker 2: is what it sounds like.

22:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have, which I'm not a very good accountant. No,

22:39 Speaker 1: I mean I I do want to shout out the

22:40 Speaker 1: producers I had on here, Justin Leslie Smith, Matt my buddy,

22:45 Speaker 1: Matt Hernon and Ted Omo like these you know, these

22:49 Speaker 1: these three guys and gals really took great care of me.

22:53 Speaker 1: And you know, there's definitely a lot of decisions producing

22:57 Speaker 1: why so like you know, I made myself, but you know,

22:59 Speaker 1: I had people to bounce off of and I had

23:01 Speaker 1: people supporting me. So my producers really really killed it.

23:05 Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent. What's been Is there something that stood out

23:09 Speaker 2: to you as the biggest surprise in terms of as

23:12 Speaker 2: as you're making a short film, something that you didn't expect,

23:17 Speaker 2: or maybe a challenge that you didn't see coming.

23:19 Speaker 1: Ah geez, honestly, yeah, I think there. I think because

23:24 Speaker 1: I had to take on a lot of producing roles,

23:26 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff about my short film that

23:30 Speaker 1: or like specific aspects that I wish that I could change.

23:35 Speaker 1: Nothing too nothing too drastic. It's more it's more just

23:38 Speaker 1: like a bunch of small things. And I've also through editing,

23:40 Speaker 1: I've I've I kid you not, I've probably watched this

23:42 Speaker 1: thing over two hundred times now, and you know it's

23:46 Speaker 1: going to be a lot harder for me to uh

23:49 Speaker 1: not nick not nick pick after after so long. Yeah,

23:53 Speaker 1: But honestly, I mean, I think that the big challenge

23:56 Speaker 1: really honestly is like just mentally being like, Okay, I'm

24:00 Speaker 1: doing this. It can be a lot like you know,

24:04 Speaker 1: like sometimes I get anxious about these sort of things,

24:06 Speaker 1: Like you know, it's you know, I don't want to

24:08 Speaker 1: make myself look like an idiot in front of like

24:10 Speaker 1: twenty five people who are like my friends, and you

24:13 Speaker 1: know that's not fun, right.

24:15 Speaker 2: You know.

24:16 Speaker 1: I've definitely worked on I've definitely worked on projects features

24:19 Speaker 1: and shorts where you know, the director just kind of

24:23 Speaker 1: makes a real fool of himself and you know, I

24:26 Speaker 1: did not. I That's that's a huge pressure. So like

24:28 Speaker 1: there is I think it's just like the mental pressure

24:31 Speaker 1: of like having to be a successful leader, at least

24:33 Speaker 1: attempting to be. It can be very daunting. But I'd

24:38 Speaker 1: like to think I did a decent job. You know,

24:40 Speaker 1: the crew morale was good.

24:41 Speaker 2: So good.

24:42 Speaker 1: As long as everybody else is happy, I think I

24:44 Speaker 1: can be happy.

24:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's excellent. Yeah, if you're just joining us. We

24:47 Speaker 2: have Tyler la Plant from Nashville. He is a is

24:50 Speaker 2: a filmmaker and we're talking about he's got his short

24:53 Speaker 2: film Joey's Big Reveal. You said, this is the second

24:55 Speaker 2: one you've done, though you did one before this.

24:57 Speaker 1: I've directed and written like music videos and like several

25:01 Speaker 1: other projects you have. Oh yeah, yeah, this this is

25:04 Speaker 1: like the first like one where I'm like, hey, this

25:08 Speaker 1: is like kind of professional. Okay, this is like my

25:11 Speaker 1: step into doing something more professional.

25:14 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm curious here about some of the music

25:17 Speaker 2: videos that you've done.

25:19 Speaker 1: I did, Uh, my first like real like like big

25:23 Speaker 1: one or not big one, but one with like a

25:25 Speaker 1: little bit of budget that I did was this song

25:28 Speaker 1: called Contact by an artist named Leonard Sweet, really great guy.

25:33 Speaker 1: Actually my girlfriend Peyton that that was her supervisor, and

25:37 Speaker 1: she you know, connected us and I produced and directed

25:42 Speaker 1: like his first music video and that was great because

25:47 Speaker 1: that was my first time really like since like like

25:50 Speaker 1: my doing films in high school, where like I would

25:54 Speaker 1: I had a crew, I had actors. You know, I

25:56 Speaker 1: was directing people and you know that that was really

26:00 Speaker 1: great experience that music videos. If you look it up,

26:02 Speaker 1: contact Leonard sweets All on YouTube. I did a music

26:06 Speaker 1: video for a a Manchester band. Unfortunately they're not they're

26:11 Speaker 1: no longer together, but they're called the Graniteers. Yeah yeah, okay,

26:15 Speaker 1: So I did their music video for mind Slide okay, yeah,

26:19 Speaker 1: which like a decent amount of people have seen, which

26:22 Speaker 1: is pretty cool. But then you know I did. I

26:26 Speaker 1: did some stuff for Alfredo Benni. Yeah, yeah, Afrado. So

26:31 Speaker 1: I've I've done. I've done some stuff with Fredo, you know,

26:34 Speaker 1: I've done like some live performance stuff like little, you know,

26:37 Speaker 1: small little things like with my own camera. Most recently,

26:41 Speaker 1: I worked on a Dropkick Murphy's music video that was

26:43 Speaker 1: really cool. I got Ken, he's real nice guy. Ken. Yeah,

26:48 Speaker 1: he's a cool guy. I've done. You know, I did

26:52 Speaker 1: this music video for this Boston or sorry, I not did.

26:57 Speaker 1: I worked on in the Lightning Apartment Flawed Mangos Surrealists,

27:02 Speaker 1: which is like I think they're at like two million

27:04 Speaker 1: views now or something like. It kind of blew up,

27:06 Speaker 1: which was cool. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, I do like commercials,

27:11 Speaker 1: short films, features, music videos, corporate stuff I do. I

27:16 Speaker 1: do a little bit of everything. Yeah, try to stay busy.

27:19 Speaker 2: That's that's excellent. I mean doing music videos. Is that

27:22 Speaker 2: probably so much fun? Is it? Yeah?

27:24 Speaker 1: Oh my god, so much fun.

27:25 Speaker 2: Yeah.

27:25 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, working usually, like I've worked on music,

27:30 Speaker 1: I've worked on a lot of music videos where bands

27:32 Speaker 1: are either super chill and they're like, yeah, let's do it,

27:35 Speaker 1: or they're like yeah, you know, you guys can do

27:37 Speaker 1: whatever you want, and then as soon as you show up,

27:39 Speaker 1: they have like a million ideas of like what they

27:41 Speaker 1: want to shoot, so like it's it's kind of funny,

27:44 Speaker 1: like the balance of working with a band. But usually

27:47 Speaker 1: music videos are fun because like you're just doing stuff

27:51 Speaker 1: because it's cool, Like yeah, the cool lighting set up,

27:53 Speaker 1: the cool camera move, like you know, it's a cool vignette.

27:56 Speaker 1: Like you don't need to worry about narrative, you don't

27:58 Speaker 1: need to worry about all this stuff, Like it can

28:01 Speaker 1: just be a purely aesthetic piece, which is really fun.

28:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's great. Like what's what would be I mean,

28:09 Speaker 2: obviously you don't have to say who it is, but

28:10 Speaker 2: what would be an example of a curve that you've

28:13 Speaker 2: kind of been thrown when when you go to do

28:16 Speaker 2: a music video.

28:17 Speaker 1: You know what, Actually, I'm gonna I will say the

28:20 Speaker 1: name of the band because it's this is a good curve.

28:23 Speaker 1: I'm gonna yeah. Yeah. So we were it was on

28:25 Speaker 1: the surrealist music video for Flawed Mangoes or Flaming Mangos.

28:29 Speaker 1: I kind of forget the name, sorry guys. Anyway, but

28:32 Speaker 1: so I was working on their video and we were

28:34 Speaker 1: kind of wrapping up for the day and then you know, uh,

28:38 Speaker 1: the creative director of the band whatever, he comes up

28:41 Speaker 1: to us like me and and Adrian Morano who's a

28:45 Speaker 1: production designer, and they're like, hey, I was key grip

28:49 Speaker 1: on this music video. So anyway, directors like, hey man,

28:52 Speaker 1: we really want to have like a floating guitar gag.

28:56 Speaker 1: Can you do that? And we had no prep for this,

29:00 Speaker 1: We had no like whatever. So you know, I asked Adrian,

29:04 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, do you have fishing line? And she's like, yeah,

29:06 Speaker 1: I have some fishing line. I'm like, all right, cool.

29:08 Speaker 1: So we got two lighting stands and we we pretty

29:11 Speaker 1: much made like a goal post and we raced it

29:14 Speaker 1: up about ten feet, brought the line in tied the

29:17 Speaker 1: guitar around the what like the strap peg at the top,

29:22 Speaker 1: and then I had another piece of string at the

29:26 Speaker 1: bottom where the other peg was, and I would pretty

29:29 Speaker 1: much just like spin it and and the band ended

29:32 Speaker 1: up using it for like the opening shot of the

29:34 Speaker 1: music video. It's like a it was just really really sick.

29:39 Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, that was that was a good curve.

29:42 Speaker 1: Like every now and then, like you get something that's

29:44 Speaker 1: like it wasn't planned, but it is really cool, you know.

29:49 Speaker 1: Or I worked on Walking Dead Dead City. We were

29:53 Speaker 1: you know, we were filming. We were filming something. We

29:56 Speaker 1: had to we had to for VFX reasons. We had

29:58 Speaker 1: to like set up these they're they're called bamboozles. They're

30:02 Speaker 1: pretty much like two by fours with like fabric, and

30:05 Speaker 1: the fabric was like this like green screen whatever. And

30:08 Speaker 1: they were doing a fire explosion and the bamboozles all

30:12 Speaker 1: burned down. They got they got torched. Yeah, and then

30:16 Speaker 1: you know VFX comes with their flame retardant material. They

30:19 Speaker 1: set it up. It was fine. Yeah, and I'm like, well,

30:21 Speaker 1: why couldn't we have done that in the first place.

30:23 Speaker 1: I can't complain too much because making those Bamboozles gave

30:26 Speaker 1: me forty hours of work that week, So it's like

30:27 Speaker 1: it's all a balance sometimes curve like, curves can be good,

30:31 Speaker 1: curves can be bad, you know what I mean?

30:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, Oh yeah, no doubt. So all right,

30:37 Speaker 2: so tell us more about Joey's big reveal. What's that's

30:39 Speaker 2: kind of the plot here?

30:40 Speaker 1: All right? So Joey's big reveal. It's, uh, group of

30:44 Speaker 1: mafioso's are hanging out together and one of them, Joey, Uh,

30:50 Speaker 1: kinda kind of has a secret revealed out to his group.

30:55 Speaker 1: Chaos sort of ensues as Joey kind of breaks down,

31:00 Speaker 1: and then towards the end of the movie, we get

31:02 Speaker 1: to see like a day in the life or sorry,

31:04 Speaker 1: a night in the life of of Joey living with

31:08 Speaker 1: the secret that he lives with. Okay, and I promise

31:11 Speaker 1: it's a comedy. Okay, watching it might not be obvious.

31:14 Speaker 2: That it is. Okay, is it a dark comedy something

31:17 Speaker 2: like that? Did you?

31:19 Speaker 1: It's okay if you if you did end up seeing it,

31:21 Speaker 1: but you should should.

31:22 Speaker 2: Well, I saw the clip that you said us, but

31:24 Speaker 2: it was just a clip.

31:26 Speaker 1: Well yeah it was. It's only six minutes long.

31:29 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it like stopped it, like it didn't show

31:32 Speaker 2: the whole for some reason. Might have been a Google

31:34 Speaker 2: driver ISU.

31:35 Speaker 1: Huh, Okay, that's really weird. I'm sorry about Oh that's okay, Coors.

31:39 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a sure if it's only the script

31:42 Speaker 1: was only like five or six pages as long as

31:44 Speaker 1: a comedy. You ever see the show, I think you

31:46 Speaker 1: should leave on Netflix.

31:48 Speaker 2: I've heard about it, but I've not actually watched it,

31:50 Speaker 2: but I've heard a lot about it.

31:51 Speaker 1: I'm heavily inspired by a guy named Tim Robinson. He

31:54 Speaker 1: Tim Robinson and Connter O'Malley are kind of like my

31:57 Speaker 1: two big like comedy may comedy influences, and you know,

32:02 Speaker 1: they really make some crazy, outrageous stuff. So Joey's big

32:05 Speaker 1: reveal definitely toes the line between like awkwardness but but

32:11 Speaker 1: but comedy as well and and seriousness and you know,

32:15 Speaker 1: I don't know, I kind of want you guys to

32:17 Speaker 1: be a little confused watching it, right, Yeah?

32:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so what inspired you to? I mean obviously,

32:24 Speaker 2: so you know you talk about your comedy influences. Do

32:26 Speaker 2: you also like do you like mob stuff? Do you?

32:28 Speaker 7: Oh?

32:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm an Italian American Okay, so you know,

32:33 Speaker 1: uh yeah, long story, that's a different show, gotcha. Yeah,

32:39 Speaker 1: I'm the Italian guy with a French last name. But yeah,

32:44 Speaker 1: so I mean big, big squirt ssy guy, big you know,

32:48 Speaker 1: Brian de Palma. Yeah, I probably actually, I don't know

32:53 Speaker 1: if I can say this on on the radio, but anyway, big,

32:56 Speaker 1: big Italian American cinema guys. So the Mob movies have

33:00 Speaker 1: always been big inspiration. This movie is more it's definitely

33:05 Speaker 1: more absurdism than it is like Moth the Mob. It's

33:08 Speaker 1: it's more of like an aesthetic that I I choose

33:11 Speaker 1: to to use to like tell the story with. Yeah,

33:15 Speaker 1: but yeah, definitely uh, definitely definitely a big mob guy.

33:19 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you like The Sopranos, Yes, yeah, oh yeah,

33:22 Speaker 2: my favorite television series of all time.

33:24 Speaker 1: I I also love, you know, good crime shows like

33:27 Speaker 1: Breaking Bad, fantastic. I know, I know it's not a

33:31 Speaker 1: crime show, but I'm I'm I'm in the midst of

33:33 Speaker 1: watching mad Men right now. I've never seen it before.

33:36 Speaker 2: I never have either. Actually, it's really good. Everyone tells

33:39 Speaker 2: me I would love it, but I've never watched it.

33:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's it's great. I watch it with my girlfriend.

33:45 Speaker 1: She really likes the show, and yeah, you know, yeah, sorry,

33:49 Speaker 1: got a little that's okay.

33:51 Speaker 2: No, it's easy to get sidetracked with mob stuff because

33:53 Speaker 2: you know, if you're really into it, you're really into it,

33:55 Speaker 2: you know which, oh yeah, which we we obviously both are.

33:58 Speaker 2: I'd blame my mother for that because I remember when

34:00 Speaker 2: I was a kid, she was always talking about she

34:02 Speaker 2: loved reading biographies about mobsters.

34:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, like she was.

34:08 Speaker 2: Really in a John Dillinger and you know, the the

34:10 Speaker 2: Chicago Mobsters because she's from Chicago's nice. She's really into

34:13 Speaker 2: all that, and then she got me into it. But

34:17 Speaker 2: uh yeah, so so it makes sense that you would

34:19 Speaker 2: want to make something like that. Do you like, like,

34:24 Speaker 2: how are you Obviously you're still putting the finishing touches

34:27 Speaker 2: on this show, we say, do you know when this

34:30 Speaker 2: is going to be released?

34:31 Speaker 1: Yeah? So I plan on doing the festival run. Okay,

34:36 Speaker 1: I will be doing like a big test screening so

34:41 Speaker 1: that I can so that people can come and check

34:43 Speaker 1: out the movie. Yeah, hopefully I'd like to do that

34:46 Speaker 1: sometime in like May or June. We're getting really really close.

34:51 Speaker 1: But the idea if if you want to watch Joey's

34:53 Speaker 1: big reveal, go out to a film festival, watch it.

34:56 Speaker 1: After about like after about a year and a half

34:58 Speaker 1: of doing festival, I will throw it online. But you know,

35:03 Speaker 1: I've already been building up the Instagram for that, so

35:05 Speaker 1: we're almost at nineteen hundred followers, which is pretty cool.

35:08 Speaker 2: Good.

35:08 Speaker 1: So yeah, I want people to go and see it

35:11 Speaker 1: in festivals and experience it on the big screen. But

35:15 Speaker 1: you know, I also, uh spend a lot of time

35:18 Speaker 1: and money working on this one, so I want as

35:19 Speaker 1: many people to see it, so it will definitely be

35:22 Speaker 1: living online at you know, at the end of its

35:25 Speaker 1: festival run.

35:26 Speaker 2: Now, So in terms of festivals, are there are these

35:30 Speaker 2: festivals where there there's a category specifically for short films.

35:34 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, I mean so most most

35:37 Speaker 1: film festivals, like i'd say, like a majority of the

35:42 Speaker 1: entries are going to be short films. And then you

35:44 Speaker 1: will have i mean, yeah, obviously the bigger ones cons

35:47 Speaker 1: and and what's gosh, Sundance, Yes, thank you, Sundance Tribeca,

35:53 Speaker 1: Like you know, they're all going to have more you know,

35:56 Speaker 1: feature films and it you know, the future films are

35:58 Speaker 1: going to take the cake there. But they're definitely shorts

36:01 Speaker 1: that still play at the big ones, and a lot

36:03 Speaker 1: of local festivals and a lot of festivals out the country.

36:07 Speaker 1: Like really most of the most of what they're getting

36:10 Speaker 1: in are our short films. Okay, yeah, so you'll go,

36:14 Speaker 1: you know, watch some shorts, meet some filmmakers, you know,

36:17 Speaker 1: do some networking. Yeah. Oh wow, there's a pigeon right there.

36:22 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the falcon cam.

36:24 Speaker 1: Wow, that's awesome. Sorry, but I am like a squirrel

36:27 Speaker 1: with ADHD.

36:29 Speaker 2: Al Right, well that probably so do you think that

36:32 Speaker 2: helps you though in your work ADHD?

36:35 Speaker 1: No, not even a little bit.

36:37 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe, Like the reason I asked you

36:40 Speaker 2: that question is so I have a friend and longtime

36:42 Speaker 2: listeners are familiar with them, longtime listeners on my show,

36:45 Speaker 2: doctor Kevin ross Emory, And he's written books about like

36:47 Speaker 2: he has a book called Managing the Gift, which is

36:49 Speaker 2: about how if you have a d D and ADHD,

36:51 Speaker 2: how you know the ways that can actually help you

36:53 Speaker 2: and you can use it to your advantage.

36:54 Speaker 1: He's got to send me a copy.

36:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lot of Yeah, you should talk to him.

36:57 Speaker 2: I should introduce you to him, because a lot of

36:59 Speaker 2: successful p you know, have that or they just have

37:02 Speaker 2: very overactive minds, and and it can actually help you

37:05 Speaker 2: to focus because it's not it's not necessarily that that

37:11 Speaker 2: there's too many things distracting you. It's just that you know,

37:14 Speaker 2: you're you you have something specific that you want to

37:16 Speaker 2: focus on, that you want to be able to hyper

37:18 Speaker 2: focus on, and and if you can do that, then

37:21 Speaker 2: it can actually help you solve problems quickly and you know,

37:25 Speaker 2: get things done quicker. There's there's a lot of ways

37:27 Speaker 2: that you can use at your advantage.

37:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think you know, I'm I'm very I'm

37:31 Speaker 1: very scatterbrained, which does hurt I feel like it hurts

37:35 Speaker 1: me more than it helps me. However, you know, having

37:38 Speaker 1: to be having to like think of a lot of

37:40 Speaker 1: different solutions for things, it's something that I can do.

37:42 Speaker 1: You have to be a problem solver on set, whether

37:45 Speaker 1: you're a grip or you're a director or you're a

37:47 Speaker 1: production assistant, Like you got to think on your feet

37:50 Speaker 1: and if you want to be successful, you got to

37:52 Speaker 1: you got to be able to do that.

37:54 Speaker 2: That's the thing. That's one of the things doctor Kevin says,

37:55 Speaker 2: as people with ADHD are excellent in solving problems. Yeah,

37:58 Speaker 2: because they can think of solutions that most people can't

38:01 Speaker 2: think of. Things will occur to you that most people

38:03 Speaker 2: won't won't necessarily think of. So yeah, it's it's it's

38:06 Speaker 2: interesting stuff, and I I kind of suspect that it

38:10 Speaker 2: might be something more helpful to you than you necessarily realize.

38:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, there's there's like there's a

38:17 Speaker 1: lot to handle, and I feel like I feel like

38:19 Speaker 1: I can handle it. Just every now and then I'll

38:21 Speaker 1: get myself into that almost like trance like state of like,

38:25 Speaker 1: oh oh shoot, like I can't like I can't do

38:28 Speaker 1: anything today until I take care of this one specific thing. Yeah,

38:31 Speaker 1: but then at least you're taking care of that thing.

38:33 Speaker 1: So it's like it's like a balance. It's really a dance,

38:35 Speaker 1: right right.

38:36 Speaker 2: I know exactly what you're talking about because I have

38:38 Speaker 2: I've never been diagnosed with anything like that, but I

38:40 Speaker 2: have a but I I know that my brain works

38:42 Speaker 2: that way. Sometimes Jenny would she's not in the room,

38:45 Speaker 2: but she'd probably back me up on that, and I'll

38:48 Speaker 2: hyper focus on solving something specific that where it's that

38:51 Speaker 2: thing like you. I never heard anyone describe it quite

38:53 Speaker 2: the way you just did. But but you're right, that

38:56 Speaker 2: thing where you feel like you can't do anything else

38:59 Speaker 2: until you solve this specific problem that's in front of you.

39:03 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. So I'm one of the ways that

39:05 Speaker 1: I this is one of the things that I regret

39:07 Speaker 1: from Joey's big reveal, is that so my my director

39:10 Speaker 1: of photography, Cat Holmes, positively fantastic. She's amazing to work with,

39:14 Speaker 1: She's amazing what she does. She comes from a lighting background,

39:18 Speaker 1: so I'm a little bit more biased towards working with her,

39:21 Speaker 1: but anyway, she's fantastic. And I pretty much told her,

39:25 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, look this, there's there's like two or

39:28 Speaker 1: three shots I really want in this movie. Everything else

39:31 Speaker 1: is just like wides and coverage have fun. And I

39:36 Speaker 1: I did that so that I could focus on my

39:38 Speaker 1: actors' performances. I could focus on on, you know, making

39:42 Speaker 1: sure that they're they're nailing the bits. But the double

39:47 Speaker 1: edged sort of that is like, yes, my movie looks great,

39:49 Speaker 1: but there's there's a lot of it that I'm like, man,

39:51 Speaker 1: I wish I thought about shots more like I wish

39:54 Speaker 1: that I had, you know, like sort of like a

39:56 Speaker 1: momentum building to a certain thing. And that's just one

39:59 Speaker 1: of the things as a filmmaker is like a same thing,

40:01 Speaker 1: like like the costume design, Like I wish I went

40:04 Speaker 1: with a completely different costume design for my movie than

40:07 Speaker 1: what I did really and oh yeah, because I'm you know,

40:10 Speaker 1: like I had my buddy Victor gave me a note.

40:12 Speaker 1: He's like he's like, I get that these guys are

40:14 Speaker 1: all like wearing like Mafia adjacent outfits, but like what

40:18 Speaker 1: is their relationship? And that was like that was a

40:22 Speaker 1: hard note, but a very good note because I'm like, Okay,

40:24 Speaker 1: if they're all wearing suits, then they're Mafia guys. They're

40:26 Speaker 1: they're obviously together. But like, you know, you know, I

40:30 Speaker 1: got one guy in a tracks, one guy in a suit,

40:33 Speaker 1: and then two guys were casual, and I'm just like,

40:35 Speaker 1: damn it, like you know. So it's like there there

40:38 Speaker 1: are things that I wish that I I did. You know,

40:42 Speaker 1: I believe very heavily in collaboration, so I'm like, I'm

40:45 Speaker 1: very happy that I had such a great group of

40:47 Speaker 1: people around me to make my movie better. But there

40:50 Speaker 1: are definitely things, like you know, camera fee like camera

40:54 Speaker 1: shots and wardrobe that I just wish I thought more about.

40:58 Speaker 1: But I'm being tugged in so many different directions that

41:01 Speaker 1: there's only so much that I can do. Exactly, no

41:04 Speaker 1: projects ever going to be perfect. It's a short film,

41:06 Speaker 1: you know.

41:06 Speaker 2: Right right exactly if you're just joining us, we're talking

41:09 Speaker 2: with a filmmaker, Tyler Laplant. Yeah, musicians talk about that too,

41:15 Speaker 2: you know. They they put out something and then they

41:18 Speaker 2: you know, We've had conversations on the show with various musicians.

41:21 Speaker 2: I'll say, well, you know, I wish I wish I

41:23 Speaker 2: had done this differently. I wish I had mixed this.

41:25 Speaker 2: That's a very common one. I wish I had mixed

41:28 Speaker 2: that differently, or made sure that it was mixed differently,

41:31 Speaker 2: or you know, or I wish the song was longer

41:34 Speaker 2: or shorter or whatever. So yeah, I mean you're always

41:37 Speaker 2: going to have that. You know. It even happens with,

41:40 Speaker 2: you know, doing a radio show. It's an instant gratification thing.

41:44 Speaker 2: You know. I come in and do it and it's

41:45 Speaker 2: live and bang, that's it. But when I go back

41:48 Speaker 2: and listen to it later, because I have to cut

41:50 Speaker 2: up the segments post some individually and so forth, I

41:54 Speaker 2: I'll off and even just be like, oh I misused

41:57 Speaker 2: that word. That wasn't the word I was looking for.

42:00 Speaker 2: Oh why did I ask that question? That was dumb?

42:02 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's hard not to be self critical

42:04 Speaker 2: when you're a creative person. Oh yeah, with anything that

42:08 Speaker 2: you make, it's you know, and I'll beat myself up over,

42:11 Speaker 2: you know, just so I mispronounced that name or something,

42:14 Speaker 2: you know. No, you know.

42:15 Speaker 1: And I think there's a good I think there's a

42:17 Speaker 1: good balance of that because I think the best artists

42:20 Speaker 1: are critical of their work and they're like, no, this

42:23 Speaker 1: is bad, like objectively, I made a bad choice here.

42:26 Speaker 1: And I think there are so many, especially filmmakers, Like

42:29 Speaker 1: there's so many filmmakers that really just want to pat

42:31 Speaker 1: themselves on the back all the time and be like, oh,

42:34 Speaker 1: you know, like I made you know, I made this movie.

42:35 Speaker 1: It was really really hard and I worked really really

42:37 Speaker 1: hard on it. But that doesn't mean that it's a

42:39 Speaker 1: good movie, right, And and you know, that's the thing

42:42 Speaker 1: is like, and if you keep making like a short

42:45 Speaker 1: film each time and you're not getting better each time,

42:48 Speaker 1: then you're not growing or or or getting better as

42:52 Speaker 1: a filmmaker. And that's the thing with me, is like

42:55 Speaker 1: I will be extremely hard on myself so that the

42:58 Speaker 1: next one is just a little bit better, and the

43:01 Speaker 1: next one is a little bit better.

43:02 Speaker 2: Right right, no doubt do you already have in mind,

43:05 Speaker 2: uh what the next one is gonna be.

43:08 Speaker 1: So I'm writing a I'm writing a feature right now

43:10 Speaker 1: called Cigarette Girls, and I'm actually I'm in I'm in

43:15 Speaker 1: the moment of thinking about maybe ripping it up and

43:18 Speaker 1: starting starting new, really newt like the same idea different

43:22 Speaker 1: different genre of music. It's it's about like these girls

43:26 Speaker 1: who work at at a at a music venue and

43:29 Speaker 1: they sell they sell cigarettes and it gets taken over

43:32 Speaker 1: by like a you know, extremist political group. Yeah so

43:38 Speaker 1: and they take the bar back. But anyway, So I'm

43:42 Speaker 1: writing now honestly, like I I have a couple of

43:45 Speaker 1: shorts that I want to do. My girlfriend goes to

43:49 Speaker 1: Wellesley University and or Wellesley College, and that's like a famous,

43:54 Speaker 1: you know, all women's school, Mona, Lisa smile, you know,

43:57 Speaker 1: the whole the whole thing. I I kind of want

44:00 Speaker 1: to do a short film about like a boyfriend's association

44:04 Speaker 1: of just all the guys who like you know, hang

44:07 Speaker 1: out with hang out with each other because their girlfriends

44:10 Speaker 1: are very busy at this all female college. Yeah, just

44:15 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's something, it's something brewing around in

44:17 Speaker 1: my head. But if I'm being honest with you, I

44:20 Speaker 1: know it's gonna sound like so hypocritical as you put

44:23 Speaker 1: the dun dun dumb music in or whatever. But I

44:26 Speaker 1: kinda I don't love watching short films. I don't love

44:31 Speaker 1: making them because I want to make features. That's that's

44:34 Speaker 1: the goal. And I'd rather like all the time and

44:38 Speaker 1: effort in resources that I put into making a short film.

44:41 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I just want to be doing this

44:44 Speaker 1: for features because features are more tangible and I can

44:47 Speaker 1: like get a feature on two B or it could,

44:50 Speaker 1: you know, hit a festival and maybe blow up. Like

44:54 Speaker 1: features are kind of where it's at. So I'd like

44:57 Speaker 1: to do like one or two more like shorts and

45:00 Speaker 1: then pretty much devote my time into making features, right, Yeah,

45:04 Speaker 1: I'd like to. I'd like to have a feature out

45:07 Speaker 1: before I'm thirty. Maybe knock on Wood that'd be great.

45:10 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, that's uh, that's that's excellent, excellent. So

45:14 Speaker 2: Joey's big reveal, forgive me if I if I ask

45:17 Speaker 2: you this already? Sure, do you know when the official

45:20 Speaker 2: well or when it's gonna be.

45:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta I gotta finish up the credit sequence

45:27 Speaker 1: in a couple a couple of tiny things, and then

45:30 Speaker 1: it'll probably take a month for color correction and sound mixing,

45:34 Speaker 1: and then once that's done, I'll have a movie. So

45:37 Speaker 1: I'm looking at doing like a test screening night where

45:40 Speaker 1: you know, open open to the general public to come

45:43 Speaker 1: test screen this movie. I say test screen. It is

45:46 Speaker 1: not a premiere because festivals are very specific about that,

45:50 Speaker 1: to say, test screening of Joey's big reveal sometime in

45:55 Speaker 1: I don't know, May May.

45:56 Speaker 2: Or Jue, Oh that soon, okay, gratefully.

45:58 Speaker 1: Yeah right, We're we're we're getting really close. Okay, yeah,

46:02 Speaker 1: I've been We shot this back in like December, so okay, yeah,

46:06 Speaker 1: I took a month off my my dog died and

46:09 Speaker 1: then sorry to hear that, sorry he didn't kill her.

46:13 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I took a month off and got

46:17 Speaker 1: back in editing, and we've done like four or five

46:20 Speaker 1: rough drafts and we're getting we're getting pretty close.

46:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty close. That's fantastic. Do you know where you're

46:27 Speaker 2: going to do the touch screen? And you're going to

46:28 Speaker 2: do it in Nashua or.

46:30 Speaker 1: I plan on doing it in Massachusetts. Sorry, sorry New

46:33 Speaker 1: Hampshire people, Wow another Falcon Sorry anyway, I plan on

46:38 Speaker 1: doing New Hampshire. Sorry, I plan on doing in Massachusetts.

46:42 Speaker 1: I'd love to do it at like a really cool theater,

46:44 Speaker 1: like you know, the Region Theater in Arlington or you

46:48 Speaker 1: know Coolidge Corner Brattle something like that. Sure, it's really

46:52 Speaker 1: just going to be a question of just like what

46:55 Speaker 1: place can I afford to rent right now?

46:58 Speaker 2: That makes sense?

46:59 Speaker 1: But yeah, so hopefully, hopefully, very very soon, I'll send

47:02 Speaker 1: invites to you and everybody else.

47:04 Speaker 2: Excellent, Yeah, excellent, wonderful, wonderful. Let's see, well we are.

47:09 Speaker 2: Is there anything you want us to know about Joey's

47:11 Speaker 2: big reveal that we didn't talk about? Did you want

47:16 Speaker 2: to did you mention any of the the actors who

47:19 Speaker 2: are in it?

47:19 Speaker 6: Oh?

47:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Actually I'd love to talk about like cast

47:21 Speaker 1: and Cruz super Fast. Yeah yeah, I literally, like, I'm

47:25 Speaker 1: you know, everybody. I don't believe in the tour director

47:27 Speaker 1: like Wes Anderson or whatever, Like, I think he makes

47:29 Speaker 1: great movies, but I think it's can I say bs

47:31 Speaker 1: or is that gonna you says? Okay? Cool? So I

47:34 Speaker 1: think I think the tour director is BS because the

47:37 Speaker 1: most you're you're Wes. Wes Anderson is just as good

47:40 Speaker 1: as his Dolly Grip, and I'm just as good as

47:44 Speaker 1: my movie is just as good as as everybody else

47:47 Speaker 1: working on it. And so I really had an incredible

47:49 Speaker 1: cast and crew, Cat Holmes, Dping Mel Nestrick working as

47:55 Speaker 1: my gaffer. In terms of cast and crew, Joey's played

48:00 Speaker 1: h David Torres, junior fantastic actor. Most recently was in

48:05 Speaker 1: this really big movie or not big movie, but this

48:07 Speaker 1: movie kind of blew up called ephis It's a baseball

48:09 Speaker 1: slice of life movie. Another Ephis star Peter Minkara, he

48:13 Speaker 1: plays Tony. My buddy Ashton O'Brien plays Alfredo. And this

48:20 Speaker 1: guy Pat Say, he's like Instagram kind of Instagram famous,

48:22 Speaker 1: which is cool. He was like the last minute addition

48:25 Speaker 1: to our our cast because his you know, the the

48:29 Speaker 1: guy who I had booked for his role like dropped

48:31 Speaker 1: out like three days before. I was like, oh crap.

48:35 Speaker 1: So Pat Shay hopped in and he was great to

48:39 Speaker 1: work with. Uh and he plays Christopher. And you know,

48:44 Speaker 1: I had some buddies come on to be some background actors.

48:47 Speaker 1: Towards the end, but I don't want to give away

48:48 Speaker 1: too many okay, too many people. There's some spoiler territory,

48:53 Speaker 1: but uh okay, okay. Yeah, really incredible local cast and crew.

48:58 Speaker 1: I mean, I love you guys. Thank you so much.

49:00 Speaker 1: If if any of you end up listening to this,

49:02 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I owe this whole movie to everybody.

49:04 Speaker 2: Oh that's very cool, very cool.

49:07 Speaker 5: What about Tyler?

49:08 Speaker 2: For people who want to keep up with everything that

49:09 Speaker 2: you're doing, where should they go online? Sure?

49:12 Speaker 1: So, if you look up Joey's Big Reveal on Instagram,

49:14 Speaker 1: you can find my page there. We also have a

49:16 Speaker 1: Facebook page Joey's Big Reveal. My Instagram if you want

49:20 Speaker 1: to check out my photography or you know, just keep

49:23 Speaker 1: tabs on me is Tyler Video twenty seven. You can

49:26 Speaker 1: find updates on Joey's Big Reveal there as well. I'm

49:29 Speaker 1: mostly active on Instagram. Okay, I don't know. I have

49:33 Speaker 1: some stuff out there on YouTube. You can, you know,

49:35 Speaker 1: find through my my links and stuff. But yeah, come

49:39 Speaker 1: check come check us out at Joey's Big Reveal. I

49:41 Speaker 1: got a lot of great bts, a lot of great stuff.

49:43 Speaker 1: Come in and look out for Joey's big reveal at

49:47 Speaker 1: a film festival near you, hopefully very soon.

49:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, nice, well, congratulations on that being being almost

49:54 Speaker 2: done and I can't wait to see the final uh,

49:56 Speaker 2: the final film.

49:57 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, man, I really appreciate it.

49:59 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Laplant from Nashua, New Hampshire filmmaker and wonderful to

50:04 Speaker 2: have you here. We are almost out of time on

50:06 Speaker 2: the live show, Jenny, did you want to just quickly

50:08 Speaker 2: mention tonight what's happening tonight? Absolutely?

50:11 Speaker 6: Please join Matt and I at the Mosaic Art Collective

50:13 Speaker 6: for the opening of Clear to Me. The gallery is

50:18 Speaker 6: located at sixty six Hanover Sweet Hanover, Sweet Hanover Street.

50:21 Speaker 1: I can't speak.

50:22 Speaker 6: Today Sweet two to one here in the Queens City.

50:25 Speaker 6: Matt and I will be there from five to seven.

50:27 Speaker 6: I hope you can come down and join us. And

50:28 Speaker 6: if you want more information on me and the good

50:31 Speaker 6: Trouble I get up to go to Gencoffee dot com,

50:33 Speaker 6: j E N N c O f f UI dot com.

50:36 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and of course if you miss any part of

50:38 Speaker 2: today's show, it will be up in just a little

50:40 Speaker 2: bit at Wmnhradio dot org and at my website. Matt

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50:51 Speaker 2: a hypnotherapy session with me. So I would love to

50:54 Speaker 2: hear from you, Matt. Matt connorton dot com. And that's

50:58 Speaker 2: going to do it for us for now. Thank you

50:59 Speaker 2: everybody who joined us today. Of course we had Mickey

51:02 Speaker 2: Licks in the first hour, going to play a little

51:04 Speaker 2: lot bit of his music at the end here, and

51:06 Speaker 2: of course we had day to attend in the second hour.

51:08 Speaker 2: Always nice to see those guys. And of course Tyler

51:12 Speaker 2: will plant again. Thank you so much, my friend. We

51:13 Speaker 2: will definitely do this again in the future.

51:15 Speaker 1: Dude, thank you so much for having me. This was

51:17 Speaker 1: a blest.

51:17 Speaker 2: Absolutely thank you, and that's going to do it for

51:20 Speaker 2: us for now. We'll talk to you a little bit later.

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