Mickey Lyxx | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk over the end of that that that echo at the end is so cool. That is Persepolis. If I'm saying that correctly. I think I said it wrong earlier. And the artist is Mickey Licks and we've got him on the line with us via WhatsApp. Mickey are you there?

0:14 Speaker 2: Yeah? I am here.

0:14 Speaker 1: Hell are you good? Good, Welcome to the show. I'm excited to talk to you. I love that track. I love I listen to a whole bunch of your stuff online on Spotify. It's all all really good. But that is that is that is fantastic? I am I saying it correctly? Perseis?

0:31 Speaker 2: Yes?

0:31 Speaker 1: Okay, well let's start with the really obvious question regarding that. What does that mean?

0:36 Speaker 2: So this song is written about the ancient city and or on.

0:40 Speaker 3: Okay, the theme I've been taking with my music is just writing about history.

0:46 Speaker 2: Oh love history.

0:47 Speaker 3: So for me, you know, when writing this song, I wanted to write about something agent, but I didn't want to go so obvious.

0:54 Speaker 2: I wanted to tell a story that was maybe not so told.

0:58 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, interesting, Yeah, because I noticed Sue from you know, watching your videos and watching the video for that it definitely, Uh, has that, you know, in terms of the imagery, has that vibe. I was thinking about it too, you know. I I'm old enough to remember, you know, when I was growing up and MTV was still a thing. You know, sometimes major artists would make these these uh, these videos that look like they cost a million dollars to make. And now with the technology that we have, you know, you can do something that looks like it costs a million dollars.

1:29 Speaker 1: But but obviously it didn't. But uh, but the video, I guess that's my long winded way of saying. The video for that is really cool and I definitely think it it goes with what you're trying to put across with the song. And now that that's cool that you that you write from a specific because I too, I noticed, like you, you know, you've got a song called Gates of Buddha, for example. I notice you seem to to write from that perspective of wanting to do something. I don't know who else does that necessarily, at least as consistently as you are writing about his story with their music.

2:01 Speaker 1: But I think that's really interesting.

2:04 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, I appreciate it. I mean, it's for me.

2:06 Speaker 3: History is one of my biggest passions besides music, of course, so it's really fun to combine it to right.

2:13 Speaker 1: No, that's great, that's great. Now who is that singing on that? Because I noticed it. It looks like that's someone you collaborate with a lot, right the vocalist on that?

2:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's Jill Joya. She was in Trance hiberianal Chestra. She was on CBS's rock Star with Tommy Lee.

2:28 Speaker 2: Oh she sank back up for like a million artists. I think, like Anya third, I've blind. I think the list goes on.

2:36 Speaker 1: Okay, So she's a heavy, heavy hitter. She's a serious person. How did you How did you come to work with her? How did that come about?

2:42 Speaker 2: Uh?

2:43 Speaker 3: Well, crazy enough, she's actually my stepmom, so I'm no kidding.

2:47 Speaker 2: It works out really nicely.

2:49 Speaker 1: Oh that's perfect. Yeah, yeah, that's fantastic. So, uh, you I assume you grew up you grew up in Wang Island? Is that correct?

2:58 Speaker 2: Yes? I grew up a long island still here?

3:00 Speaker 1: Okay, excellent, And so obviously you grew up surrounded by musicians. I assume yes, that is true. Okay, very good. So when did you start playing guitar because I suspect you started at a really young age.

3:14 Speaker 2: I actually didn't. I started at twelve.

3:18 Speaker 1: Twelve, okay, fairly young.

3:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, fairly young, and then just kind of went from there.

3:23 Speaker 1: Yeah. Is it something that you picked up quickly?

3:27 Speaker 3: I would say, I mean, it's it's in the family. So I think for me, it just kind of came a little bit more natural than other things. Sure, you know, not everything for everyone is easy, right, So it's like certain things you try, you just just it just doesn't play right right, you have to really try.

3:43 Speaker 2: But with a guitar, I found it. It really sat comfortable with me.

3:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's that's great. I wish I had been like that. So when I was a kid I started out on guitar, I took guitar lessons, but unfortunately I was one of those lazy kids that if I wasn't good at something quickly enough, I would give up on it.

4:01 Speaker 2: So I think we all have that.

4:05 Speaker 1: With some things. Yeah, but that's how I ended up being a bass player. And bass players hate when I say this, but it's just the truth. So I got discouraged. I kind of hit a wall. I plateaued with guitar. But then when I picked up a bass for the first time, which really wasn't until high school, I was like, oh, two less strings and I don't have to know any chords. I think I found my instrument and then I and then I ended up playing in a bunch of bands and everything playing bass. But I turned out to be kind of okay at bass.

4:32 Speaker 1: But but I so I always admire and respect people who have the discipline to start an instrument and then you know, really see it through and get get really really good at it when you started at twelve years old, was your goal to be? I don't know if shredder is maybe an outdated term or maybe it's not, but was.

4:50 Speaker 2: That always really uh what you know? Because so I grew up playing ice hockey.

4:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, so guitar was never my passion until maybe I was fourteen, Okay, Like so for me, I was like, oh, this is just fun, but I'm still playing hockey. Yeah, and then but I got you know, I got injured. Time happens. And then the more I played guitar, the more I fell in love with it. And you know, growing up, my dad was a shredder. Okay, he's been like he's raised on that stuff.

5:23 Speaker 2: You know, he's he's he's my inspiration for that cool. So it was in the house and then uh I just.

5:31 Speaker 3: Kind of as my journey went along, I started just doing more shred stuff and really fall in love with it. But I did grow up on stuff like Van Halen where it's it's not technically shred, but you know it's rock playing. But then I would listen to the bands like Santa Cruz or Falling in Reverse, which at the time the guitar players were shredders.

5:52 Speaker 2: Yes, and you know you hear that and it's just like ooh.

5:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Who's who? Who would you say is your biggest I mean, obviously your dad is a big influence on you in terms of that, but like, who would you say? You know you mentioned van Halen like you is there is there kind of a someone who stands out above all of them in terms of influence.

6:15 Speaker 2: Uh?

6:16 Speaker 3: Well, I think as a lot of guitar plays, I think Eddie is always the main. Without Eddie, none of this is possible, at least I don't think.

6:26 Speaker 2: So.

6:26 Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of this goes this far

6:30 Speaker 3: besides Eddie because I feel like he's always the big choice.

6:34 Speaker 2: I have a few I have.

6:36 Speaker 3: I talked under Jackie Vincent for about two years okay from Falling Reverse, and he's he's just a super nice dude, great player, great musician. Him, Paul Gilbert, I was always big on Oh okay Veay Moldstein.

6:55 Speaker 2: Of course. Yes, I got to learn from.

6:58 Speaker 3: Him a bit because I did a uh tour opening for him last summer.

7:03 Speaker 2: Really and yeah yeah, and it just got you know, get to see him play every night, and it's just like, Okay, this is serious.

7:11 Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, that's really cool. It's funny. I remember growing up, my friends and I used to argue about how what the correct way to pronounce his name.

7:19 Speaker 2: Is, like a few ways.

7:26 Speaker 1: No, that's really cool though, that you got to tour with him. Who so, so who else have you? Well, how did you so Jackie Vincent? You said, like, is he kind of a mentor to you? It sounded like it sounds like you have to spend a lot of time with him, right.

7:38 Speaker 3: Yes, uh so I took lessons with him for a long time. Okay, but not only just being a student, just being friends. Like he's a he's a super cool dude. Yeah, he came on to one of my tracks and did like a guest solo. Wow, And yeah, he's honestly, he's just a sweetheart and just really helped develop what I was, you know, going for.

8:02 Speaker 1: Sure sure in terms of you know, learning how to play, how to play fast, how to shred? I mean, what what's kind of the most important thing? Because I've always so for me as someone who who can play a little bit of guitar. But like I said, I told you my my journey with that and how derailed it it became. But I've always been under the impression the best way to do it. Tell tell me if this was your experience is you just learn. You just learn everything technical that you can, and then you just what's the expression, I've heard different variations of it, but slow as steady, steady as fast, meaning first you learn how to do it, like anything that you learn in life.

8:45 Speaker 1: First you learn how to do it correctly. Don't worry about doing it fast, just worry about doing it right and doing it as efficiently and effectively as you can. And then speed just comes. Speed comes over time once you learn how to do it. Correc and my my assumption as someone who never learned how to shred? Is that that's how you learn how to shred? First you learn how to play as you know, all the technical stuff, and then the speed comes over time Or Am I wrong about that? Are there specific techniques that that you have to use to learn to play fast?

9:20 Speaker 2: No?

9:20 Speaker 3: I think that's perfect. I think it's exactly that. You have to build it, right, Yeah, you don't just get from zero to one hundred.

9:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you have.

9:27 Speaker 3: You have to think of it like even if you're driving a car, right, if you want to get on that gass, it's a it's a you know.

9:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes a build up. Yeah, it doesn't just go from zero to one hundred. But uh. The only like thing I usually say for people who want to get into.

9:43 Speaker 3: It is, well, one, you have to be friends of the metronome, even if even if it's annoying, you have to like it.

9:52 Speaker 2: It is what it is. You'll be hearing it for the rest of your life, right.

9:54 Speaker 1: Uh.

9:55 Speaker 3: Two, if you're gonna get into the shred guitar stuff, the most important.

10:02 Speaker 2: Thing to learn is scales.

10:03 Speaker 3: Okay, because most of what it is is scales. Yes I shouldn't say most, but a lot of it is scales. It's combining scales, using multiple just doing maybe three or four notes from one scale.

10:19 Speaker 2: It's all about that.

10:21 Speaker 1: Okay.

10:21 Speaker 2: So if you want to be able to really rip, that's your founded.

10:24 Speaker 1: True Okay, Okay, that's good advice, good advice. And so tell us about so the first single, Defiance that was the debut single, right, your first single that you officially released, and then that that did really well, right ten k plus on YouTube? And I mean you were starting out.

10:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really happy that.

10:44 Speaker 1: That's really cool. I mean, did you expect to have such early success with it?

10:48 Speaker 2: No, no at all.

10:50 Speaker 3: I was really young at the time, so I just put it out, yeah, no winging a prayer.

10:55 Speaker 1: How old were you when you put it out?

10:58 Speaker 2: I think I was sixteen? Wow?

11:00 Speaker 1: Wow?

11:00 Speaker 2: Yeah?

11:01 Speaker 1: What do you think, like, what do you attribute the early success and attention to. I mean, obviously you're doing something right at sixteen, you've already got you know that for a single right out of the gate, you're having success with it online. But I mean, what what do you attribute that too? Is is there something about about it that you think just really connected with people?

11:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be honest with you. I don't really know. Yeah, maybe it was just right time, right place, you know.

11:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm grateful it went how it went.

11:27 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I wouldn't really know. Maybe it was just yeah, maybe it was just right for the time.

11:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, apparently. And what does that song represent to you personally? Like? Why is it called defiance?

11:39 Speaker 3: Ah? I'd have to let me think, because I think at the time it was just like I was young, right, Yeah, And I think when you're a young kid and you're trying to make it in something, there's going to be a lot of.

11:55 Speaker 2: Hate you get.

11:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah, and I you know, I hate to be that whole A lot of people parted me at the takers now. But you know, as a sixteen year old navigating this career, and you know, thirty years ago, there wasn't social media, right, so people weren't going on Slasher's post dog dude, you suck. But you know, as a sixteen year old, do you get that quite a lot?

12:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's a different world.

12:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I.

12:21 Speaker 3: Think it was just kind of maybe learning to deal with that and be like, all right, I'm my own thing, m hm.

12:28 Speaker 2: I'm strong in what I do, and I think it was just like, all right, we're gonna name it that.

12:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's cool. And I think that, you know, because we live and people might take something from this that's valuable, is you know you really just the best thing to do is just be yourself in terms of what you do creatively and how you choose to express it. I don't work, don't worry about the critics and the you know, the people who aren't gonna like you, because you know, I'm old enough to remember, you know, when we didn't have social media and all of this, and you know, it is a different world and you get instant feedback.

13:00 Speaker 1: No matter what you do, there's going to be haters, you know, so you have to just embrace that. And you know, hey, at least the haters are paying attention to you, you know, even if the haters are watching your music video while you're still getting those clicks. So you know, there's always going to be people who love you and people who hate you, and just you know, you got to embrace all of it.

13:18 Speaker 3: And I always think it's like a ninety ten or like a ninety five five, right, Yeah, it's like I hate you get The rest is loves exactly. Just who cares, you know, and you know it's a keyboard warrior.

13:34 Speaker 2: You're gonna argue with the keyboard.

13:35 Speaker 1: Warrior, right, exactly exactly. I think that's a very healthy way of looking at it and thinking about it. Also, So tell me about Holy Mother. You're you're also in this. You don't just do solo work as Mickey Mickey Les. You've got this band Holy Mother that you was Oh you are? Okay?

13:53 Speaker 2: Yeah? I left in full.

13:55 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, what happened.

13:59 Speaker 2: Just creative, different instance. Just felt it was better to go my own way.

14:03 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. How long were you in the band?

14:06 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say three years?

14:08 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you were there for a while. Yeah. And is it true that you did a tour? You toured North America and also you went to Europe opening for Doro Pesh.

14:17 Speaker 2: I toured in Europe?

14:19 Speaker 1: Oh you did? Okay? Okay, Wow, now that must have been that must have been cool. What was that like opening for Doro Pesh because she's kind of kind of a legend, you know.

14:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was really cool. Definitely.

14:30 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's always great to play Germany, you know, I look forward to the times in the future.

14:37 Speaker 2: But the fans are always great. I always love the culture. So yeah, I really dig it.

14:42 Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt. So is are you are you in another band now or are you strictly are you focused on releasing music as Mickey Lix?

14:52 Speaker 3: Well, so, I'm I do the Mickey Licks band, right, But I also I work with a singer named Andrew Okay, she's a Greek like power metal singer. Oh so I've gotten lucky enough to tour all over with her. I've done my most work probably with her. Oh wow, that's what I opened with Ingbay with her, opened for Dave Ellison of Mega Death. Uh, we did our own like solo headlining tour and there. You know, there's always more in the works. But it's been a really really fun project, met some really cool people with it, and yeah, that that I have such a blast with.

15:31 Speaker 1: Oh that's really cool. That's amazing. And then so you're still do you have any plans to Uh, you're still living in Long Island, right, so do you have any plans to to? You know, I don't know, go to Hollywood or something or what NA stick around where you are at all.

15:48 Speaker 2: I'm not you know, this is what I'll say.

15:51 Speaker 3: I think being from the East Coast, no shot, not gonna happen.

15:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know I've been to La now it's cool, but it's just not my thing, you know.

16:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're I mean, you know, the traffic is terrible either place, right, So.

16:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's true. I mean, by me, it's not horrible.

16:14 Speaker 1: That's good.

16:15 Speaker 3: It's not like New York City traffic, right yeah. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know if I could be in that lifestyle.

16:21 Speaker 2: You know, it's just not my thing. It's not it doesn't feel genuine to me.

16:25 Speaker 1: Right right. Well that's also a very healthy way of thinking about it, I think. So that's good. That's good. Yeah. No, I like the Northeast. Obviously I still live here, so yeah, absolutely. So what's kind of the So what's next for you? You've got a lot going on. Do you have well, Persepolis is relatively new, right as a single that that came out recently?

16:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, I came out. I think it's been like two and a half three weeks.

16:53 Speaker 1: Oh, so it's really new. Yeah. So do you do you have another single that you're getting ready to least soon or what's what's kind of next?

17:02 Speaker 2: Yes, I do so.

17:05 Speaker 3: I don't want to like give away too much, okay, but I'll give away like a little.

17:09 Speaker 2: So we have a we have a new release coming out in early May. Okay, another metal track, history metal.

17:18 Speaker 3: Oh, but this time it's written about a story here in the States.

17:23 Speaker 2: Which is the first song we're gonna be doing about that.

17:26 Speaker 1: Oh and I think it's intrigued.

17:29 Speaker 3: Comes fun in time for America's two fifty. So okay, I'm really I'm really stoked about it.

17:35 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I'm very intrigued. I'm very intrigued. Well, when it's when it's ready, you'll have to send that to us because we'd love to play it here for me absolutely. And and will it be your your uh? Is funny about it?

17:46 Speaker 2: Well?

17:46 Speaker 1: Will it be your stepmom singing on it?

17:49 Speaker 2: It will be Yeah, So she's handled all the duties with that. Okay, I'm not I'm not a power metal singer. I can't do that.

17:55 Speaker 1: There is there is one song you sing on though, right, what is it? Fight You? Is that the song?

18:02 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? So we did a few last year. We did a few like pop rock tracks.

18:09 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and you know what they're.

18:11 Speaker 3: Not, so I they're not available anymore because I'm trying to, like, you know, get this power metal branding going.

18:18 Speaker 2: And I was like, I feel like these.

18:20 Speaker 3: Probably don't help it, okay, but I'm still gonna upload them like sometime in the future. But I released three pop rock tracks and yeah, I did sing on them.

18:31 Speaker 1: Yeah.

18:31 Speaker 2: I love the tracks. Yeah, I just don't think it fits what I'm doing now.

18:35 Speaker 1: Okay, So but I think.

18:37 Speaker 3: It's great because it kind of like I got to learn with these tracks how to really craft the hook, right, so I was able to kind of take that training and then put it over to what I'm doing now. It has been like it's like all right, great, so they they serve their purpose and you know, they'll still be out there so people can find them. But I think I put M off Spotify and everything's like, you know, kill the metal stuff.

19:06 Speaker 2: Yeah.

19:07 Speaker 1: I found I found fight You on YouTube and I checked out the video and I was like, oh, that's cool. I like it, and but I noticed right away it was different from your other stuff. But it is you know, it is very very very catchy, and it's a fun I like the video. It's fun.

19:20 Speaker 2: We had fun who's who's the the.

19:22 Speaker 1: Older gentleman in the video with the gray hair, Who's who sits at the drums at one point?

19:27 Speaker 2: So that is our drummer Steve, his dad.

19:32 Speaker 1: That's his dad who comes in and sits down at the drum set.

19:35 Speaker 3: Okay, you know, with what we do, it's very like very family reacted. Yeah, right, like everybody's into it. Like nobody's like, nobody has anyone who's like, nah, that's stupid. Because my dad is like, he's super helpful me and you know, I always bounce a lot of ideas off him. He's just great for this stuff. And then our drummer dad, Steve, well, his name is Nick the dad.

20:03 Speaker 2: Okay, he's super helpful, super supportive.

20:06 Speaker 3: So we're really lucky that we have family who will support us with this.

20:13 Speaker 1: No, that's great and having a yeah, having a supportive family makes all the difference. And and you know, like I said too, I mean, you know, we talked about it a little bit. You grew up in a great situation there with your family in terms of what you're doing now for a career. And I think I think that's uh, I think that's amazing. Well, Mickey Lix this has been wonderful. Like I said, I can't wait to hear the new single when it comes out, and and we'll be happy to play it here.

20:37 Speaker 2: Uh.

20:37 Speaker 1: We did open with uh Persepolis. I was thinking about closing our conversation with Gates of Buddha, another great track. What do you unless there's something else you'd prefer we play to close out the segment, but you know I like to bookend the segment music so.

20:56 Speaker 2: Perfect. Yeah, that's a great choice.

20:58 Speaker 1: So tell us about that one.

21:01 Speaker 2: So this song is written about the scene to Buddha in sixteen eighty six.

21:06 Speaker 3: Okay, So last summer, when opening for en Bay, I went to Hungary. I've been before, love love the country, but it was my first time in Budapest.

21:18 Speaker 2: Oh, never been to Budapest. And I didn't have much time in Budapest.

21:22 Speaker 3: I had the gig and then the whole band woke up early the next morning just to be tourists until like I'm gonna say, like twelve or one o'clock because then we had to we had to haul to Greece because they're like, all right, we have a show in Greece the next day. So looking at a map that was about like a nine ten hour drive. Yeah, like that was in a short drive that we.

21:46 Speaker 4: Did, so you know, I didn't get to spend too much time with Budapest, right, Yeah, but from what I did get to see, I was really into it.

21:58 Speaker 3: There was just the beautiful churches, beautiful scenery. The people were just great. I really liked the fans, Like you know, there's there's certain countries I think you fold near and deer right to like how they react to music. So like I've always been I've always obviously been a big fan of the German fans.

22:18 Speaker 2: They're really into the music.

22:20 Speaker 3: But I've also always been into Eastern European fans. There's just a certain energy they bring that I just haven't seen anywhere else. But I felt in Hungry they were very appreciative, even the staff working, Like when I walked in the building, they were super friendly. They you know, they were talking to about other projects that I've been in. So you know, as an artist, that just makes you like it's super heartwarming. Oh it's like really you've heard it, And like even I've had people that were like, oh, I saw you when you played here, and I saw you when you played here, So getting back to where I was, so I had a really good experience there.

23:06 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. So when I started doing this power metal stuff, I've always been in the power metal but starting to write this stuff.

23:16 Speaker 2: I came up with the song which was Gates.

23:19 Speaker 3: Buddho wrote the whole song, but I didn't know what it was going to be about.

23:23 Speaker 2: I had no clue.

23:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just knew it was going to be about a battle and that's it.

23:29 Speaker 1: Yeah.

23:29 Speaker 3: So I started doing my studying of what I thought maybe all right, so testing out different ideas, and then I started to kind of get into the CG Vienna a bit.

23:41 Speaker 2: But the CGVN is something that's very popular.

23:44 Speaker 3: Like a lot of people know about the seas of Vienna, a lot of people know about the wing Hissars.

23:49 Speaker 2: So for me, I was like, all right, well, let's shift same war, different battle. And then that's where Buddha clicks.

24:00 Speaker 3: I was like, ah, okay, because just a quick geography lesson, because I love geography. Budapest is separated by the Danu, right, so the north of the city I might get I might get.

24:13 Speaker 2: This wrong, so people could correct me if if I long.

24:16 Speaker 3: The north of the city is Buddha, and then the south of the city is Pest and then they just combined it.

24:24 Speaker 2: But so the north of the city Buddha is where all the historic stuff is. It's where Castle Hill.

24:31 Speaker 3: Is, where it's mentioned in the song. That's where Buddha Castle is. So that's the siege of Buddha, okay, right, and the real thing. So I really loved the story of how you know, in history, this stuff gets conquered, it's gets claimed, it happens. But I really enjoyed the story of nationality and a group of people trying to reclaim what was theirs right and so they've came closed but they failed a lot of times, but it was like after one hundred and fifty years they finally got what was theirs back, okay.

25:08 Speaker 2: And I thought that was such a interesting story.

25:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and you know, I think with this you get a little risky because there is religion involved. But you know, like like I've said to millions of people who have had this question, it's just talking about history.

25:26 Speaker 2: There's no religious prejudice. I love everybody, you know what I mean.

25:30 Speaker 3: But it's just such an interesting story, and I think it's a story that needs to be told and that's why when the song released, it was so cool to see the outpouring of Hungarian fans who just came out of the wood work, and I was like, oh my god, you gotta see this.

25:47 Speaker 1: Oh, that's really cool, that's really cool, that's amazing. Okay, well, very good. So we're going to share that with everybody in just a moment. But before we let you go, Mickey, where's the best place to go to keep up with everything that you're doing, with everything that Mickey Licks is doing.

25:59 Speaker 2: Well good check w w W Mickey licks dot com. That's my website. Okay, I'm at Mickey.

26:06 Speaker 3: Underscore Licks on Instagram, Mickey Licks on Facebook, and then just hit the Spotify's just Mickey Licks and lix is spelled l y x x uh. And hopefully I'll be in your state, in your country very soon doing what we're doing, having fun, and yeah, I hope to see you there.

26:25 Speaker 1: Very cool, very cool. All right, Well, it is wonderful to talk with you. You can't wait to hear the next single when it comes out, And I'm sure we'll do this in the future as you're releasing new music and doing doing a lot of things. Uh, you know, we're we we became fast fans here, so really really love what you're doing. Man, keep it up, and uh we'll let you go for now and we're gonna hit this track. But Mickey Licks, thank you so much, thank you. All right, you got to take care, all right. That is Mickey Licks from Long Island, a real New Yorker by the way, Jenny, really that's right, that's right, that's right, all right, that's a that's a little bit in side.

27:00 Speaker 1: But if you know, you know, but no, but he's amazing, very very talented. And let's give this a spin. This is another great track. I actually listened to all of these, but this is called Gates of Buddha.