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3:23 d w m n H rip the novels, Show me something anything an I

4:11 thank y'all, clock inst lest thing out tip, don't you going anywhere?

4:26 Don't you know what your mind? Don't you know any don't you job?

4:54 Tell me something many knew? I thank y'all. What no, man,

5:10 don't you go away? You know what, man? You know what you

5:31 want? Your bout you go? What you did? You got your don't

6:26 that is? Don't you? By grim Rock as we are in our number

6:30 two New Marrow dose of Matt Connorton unleashed on this Saturday morning, April thirteen,

6:35 two thousand twenty four from the studios of WMNH ninety five point three FM

6:43 on Canal Street in Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire, and I believe we have

6:47 Grimrock with us live via Skypillo. Hey, mister Manda, how you doing

6:53 good? How are you? Welcome back? I appreciate being back. This

6:57 is great. So, by the way, so I had something planned,

7:00 so you sent us this wonderful package, and unfortunately the video component of our

7:05 Facebook feed is not working. I wanted to pull this out live on the

7:10 air and kind of show everybody on video. Uh but uh, well,

7:15 but radio is theater of the mind, so that's all right. But but

7:18 I had I had waited on this. Although Jenny's got a video going,

7:23 so I'm uh, you sent us this wonderful package which I'm unboxing now,

7:29 so Jenny's getting video of it. But are are you streaming that live or

7:32 are you just recording it? Just recording it? Okay, I did it

7:36 very quickly. But grim you sent us this uh okay, this five song

7:42 EP and uh and you personalized it to Matt and Jenny. Thank you and

7:46 some stickers. Oh wait, oh we've got a oh we've got a button

7:49 yep and a guitar pick. Very cool. And by the way, I

7:53 want you to know you can't see it on video today unfortunately, but we

7:56 are going to take a picture afterwards. Jenny and I are both wearing our

7:59 shirts that you had yes given us, sir. Oh, this is very

8:03 wow. You really send us so you went all out on this. This

8:07 is very cool. I think I'm going to make a frame for that.

8:11 We're gonna have to take a lot of pictures here. Yeah, and I

8:13 think that will look really cool to frame them up. Yeah. Oh yeah,

8:16 we'll hang that in the office. We can we can do something to

8:18 where we spread these out on a table and take a picture and post it.

8:22 Absolutely absolutely, And I'll definitely get a picture to show you. And

8:26 I'll add stickers to my computer. I have the rainbow sticker that you gave

8:31 me on my computer. Sweet. I need to reorder those. I'm out

8:35 of those. Yeah, there's a couple of guitar picks in here. Dude,

8:39 you went all out. Thank you. Awesome, You're welcome. I'm

8:43 glad to be able to send things like that to people we know. Oh

8:46 well, we love you. We love your music. And if people don't

8:48 see your logo, now check us out the Matt Content Unleashed page and you'll

8:54 you'll be able to see the logo in a little bit here. Nice.

8:56 Yeah, and I love that, you know. I had to play don't

8:58 check. I love that song so much. Yeah. If you are just

9:03 joining us, I grim Rock is here with this via Skype. And by

9:05 the way, if you have any questions or feedback or anything at all for

9:09 our guests, the studio line is open. You can call us live on

9:11 the air at six O three two five O six oh seven six O three

9:15 two five O six oh seven. You can also, of course, uh

9:18 interact into opine in the Facebook live chat. I see Miriam Banish has joined

9:22 us in there, and uh Lewis Tive is in the Facebook live chat and

9:26 he says legend yeah you and he now we've had him on the show as

9:30 well. You and he did something together. Correct, We we've done a

9:33 few things together. He was actually responsible the Haunted video. A section in

9:39 there, the goth model that's his wife. Oh no, kidding, Yeah,

9:43 he sent it. He sent the video footage clear from Staffordshire, UK,

9:46 and uh, I integrated him with the footage that I did here.

9:48 It was completely di I y, it was. It was really good.

9:50 We've done all kind of things though. That's really cool. Is that?

9:54 How is that how we met him through you? Or did we meet you

9:58 through him? Or no? I think yeah, I'm pretty sure it was

10:03 him through me because I got it from someone else, you know what I

10:07 mean. It was kind of everything's passed on, you know, right right,

10:11 yeah, Yeah, he's amazing. He's amazing. Now now where in

10:15 Pennsylvania are you again? Refresh our memories? I am in I'm just outside

10:18 of Pittsburgh, okay, okay, and uh, what's been going on with

10:22 you? You've got some news? I remember Jenny and I I think we

10:26 were watching it live. In fact, you were signing a deal live on

10:30 Uh? Was was it on Facebook? You were signing a distribution deal?

10:35 Yeah? I did it on I actually did it on YouTube and and posted

10:39 it everywhere, but yeah, yeah, through Golden Robot Records and uh,

10:43 I actually got a little story for that one. So almost two years to

10:48 the week before this all happened, I had seen a post for a singles

10:56 competition and I had just put out grim Rock Radio to say, and I

11:01 was really super excited about the song and i'd sent it. Well. A

11:05 couple of weeks later, I was watching the podcast that I was helping sponsor

11:09 the competition, and the guy was like, don't Boris get to the chorus,

11:13 and I was like, that's it. So that actually actually caused me

11:18 to change the track to have the lights out, burned it down at the

11:20 very beginning to lead it in. Yeah, and I also messed the application

11:26 up. I was so excited about it. I ended up putting two songs

11:28 on, not a photo in a song. It was just all But anyway,

11:31 I saw another post that they were looking to put on some people for

11:35 distribution and I was like, well, I'll try it, and I sent

11:39 an email and it took a little while and they got back and they asked

11:43 for music, and I was like, well, here we go again.

11:46 So I sent him a couple of tracks and it was like ten minutes and

11:48 they come back and I was like, wow, and here I am,

11:52 you know, very good now. So for those and you know, we

11:56 have a lot of people who listen to the show who are music of course,

12:01 or some who are involved in other elements of the business. So for

12:03 those who don't know, for the uninitiated, So what does that do for

12:07 you exactly a distribution deal and and why is that important to have for me?

12:13 I mean, you know, as an independent artist, you know,

12:15 we all can do distribution ourselves through different platforms. I was doing it through

12:20 Distro Kid. And the real process of the thing that I'm looking forward to

12:24 for this is actually the reach. You know. So basically you're going to

12:30 send the music to the whatever company you have a distribution deal with. They'll

12:33 redistribute it for you and it'll be on their page, so you get their

12:37 exposure, you know, their their reach, some different things like that,

12:41 they do some pr In this case, I'll be sending the g R five

12:48 album to them as a release and then several months later I'll be probably doing

12:54 another release forum and which will be really cool and you know, hopefully I

13:00 can kind of pick up you know, maybe opening acts, you know,

13:03 any area for people that are on their label and stuff. I mean,

13:05 there's there's still more to be talked about with this, but I have I

13:09 have high hopes with it, you know, and I'm really excited about it.

13:13 Yeah, very cool. Now the EP, So now this is already

13:18 out right, this has been released or or are you waiting for for them

13:22 to release it? No, I still have a couple of tracks and I

13:24 gotta send them those as well. Oh okay, okay, yeah, So

13:28 Angry is one that's on I believe is it on that yeah sampler? Yeah,

13:33 Angry is track one on the sampler. It is something that's not out

13:37 yet, and that will be part of the tracks that nobody has really heard,

13:43 you know. Oh okay, cool? Cool? Yeah, yeah,

13:45 because we've got and also this track Abyss, which which I think we're gonna

13:50 play at the end of the segment, and you've got it. It says

13:54 lyrics by Angel. What does that say? Angel? Vow? Angel Vow?

14:00 Now? Who is that and why are you? Why do they have

14:03 because I assume the lyrics for your other songs you've written them yourself. Right,

14:09 Uh? Yeah, Faded will be one. It's Jason Clem and I

14:13 have some other ones in the process. So Angel is actually a friend of

14:16 mine and she lives in the Pittsburgh area and we've talked for a long time.

14:22 We've met, you know, we've gone to football games, you know,

14:24 stuff like that. And she's actually a writer. She writes books and

14:28 she's self published and she's doing really well with that. And one day shed

14:35 we were talking about some stuff and I was like, well, you know,

14:37 I had other people, you know, send me lyrics, you know,

14:39 like city. You know, Cities was a poem that I changed into

14:43 music for Matt Oyster. But so she sent me the stuff for Abyss and

14:48 we put it together and that, I'm telling you that really had changed my

14:52 whole perspective of things. When I did that particular song, just a series

14:58 of event happened that just really unlocked everything, I think for where we're sitting

15:03 today, you know what I mean, And I mean everything from you know,

15:07 the model that was in the video to the person who shot the video.

15:13 We did it in Cleveland, Ohio. I had another interview with a

15:18 different podcast and they're mixing guy Matt Kershner actually had messaged me afterwards and wanted

15:24 to mix the song and do it oh, turned into a long term thing.

15:28 And he's actually at Pine Box Studios in Connecticut. So I sent him

15:31 tracks. He mixes them and sends them back, and that's what that particular

15:37 disc has. It's it's new mixes of the tracks that I have, with

15:39 the exception of Abyss. Abyss was released as his mix. You know what

15:43 I mean? Oh, okay, okay, Yeah, that's pretty cool.

15:46 When you hear from somebody you don't expect to and they're like, hey,

15:50 I like what you're doing so much. I want to I want to mix

15:52 this for you. That's pretty cool. Yeah. I was. I was

15:56 completely blown a way and I thought it was gonna be one and I was

15:58 like, well, you know, we'll check it out. And I was

15:58 listening. Ended up being everything you know, And he's going to finish mixing

16:02 this disc and hopefully I get to work with the more, you know,

16:06 in the future. Man, he's a he's a cool dude. That's fantastic.

16:08 H Lewis Ivey in the chat room says you belong you see as the

16:11 best song. He says that he's told me that a million times. Yeah,

16:18 and you know it's funny because you know, like I said, his

16:19 Wife's and Haunted. Now I kind of expected Haunted to be the best song,

16:22 but it's he likes you belong to See a lot of people like that.

16:26 And I actually opened my shows with with the new Angry track and you

16:29 belong to see Tied Together. Oh okay, one longer track. So yeah,

16:33 that's that's super cool. Now, who is uh? Who is disposing

16:37 with the guitar on the cover? That is my cover model. And that's

16:42 that's another thing that happened, Like in the process whole this thing. I

16:48 had an interview actually with her. She does little interviews on her YouTube channel

16:53 and she goes by the name of tattoo Baby twenty three on all the social

16:59 media, including you. And one day I was perusing her page and I

17:03 saw that photo and I was like, man, that would make a great

17:07 album cover. And so I had messaged her and I was like, hey,

17:10 you know anybody uses for albut covers. She's like, no, nobody

17:11 has yet, you know. And I was like, well, if nobody

17:15 does, let me know. I didn't hear anything for a while, and

17:18 I was like, well, maybe I'll message her back. So I messaged

17:21 again about it and she's like, yeah, go ahead, and she talked

17:25 to her guy that actually took the photo. It was done in Texas by

17:27 a guy named David Diaz, and they were really cool with it. And

17:34 that's that turned into the cover for g R five. In a long term

17:37 relationship with her with different things, and man, I'm really I'm thankful for

17:44 everything that's happened since that whole Abyss thing happened. I mean, it's just

17:47 so many twists and turns. Yeah, and no, that's really cool.

17:52 But by the way, why is it called g R five? Is it?

17:55 Is it your fifth release? So technically it's my fifth release. I

17:59 had four yeah, four out technically, so three actual EPs, and then

18:07 I actually had a single called Everything Is on Fire and it's actually in a

18:12 different tuning and I haven't done anything else in that tuning, so I kind

18:17 of left it stranded, and I was like, well, I don't have

18:19 to be my fourth kind of release. It was just a single, you

18:22 know, So it's just Grimrock five. Yeah, Okay, can you tell

18:26 us again about and I'm sure we talked about it last time, but your

18:30 recording process? Am I am? I remembering correctly that you do everything yourself.

18:36 Yes, I do everything in house. I have a little home studio.

18:40 I have drum kits, bass guitars. I have everything at my disposal

18:44 here. I do all the recording and all the vocals and things, and

18:48 you know, I preliminarily mix them, you know. And now, like

18:52 I said, I send them Matt. But before I was actually doing the

18:56 mixing stuff here, and I was getting the aid of like you know,

19:00 the emastering kind of thing online to help me make some master better you know,

19:04 than what I could. Yeah, but I have an advantage now.

19:07 So yeah, now that's that's great to be able to do everything yourself.

19:12 Have you done it that way from the beginning, Yes, I have.

19:17 I've played with bands before and different things. Yeah. You know, I

19:18 lived just far enough south of Pittsburgh that I'm in a little spot that just

19:22 you know, everybody wants to play cover tunes and you know, hit the

19:26 bar scene on the weekends and make the guaranteed money, and nobody wants to

19:29 take the risk, you know, to play stuff even in the spot that

19:32 you know I keep pushing too. You know. Yeah, they're just not

19:36 comfortable with, well, we're not making any money on it, you know,

19:37 we're doing it here, you know, right, and it's just kind

19:41 of been whatever. I mean. Hopefully one day I get to have a

19:44 full band to play out with. You know, that'd be really really cool.

19:47 So what is it like now when you play out? Is it?

19:49 Is it just you? Or does anyone ever join you? Or how does

19:52 that work? Well? It's just me. So what I have is I

19:56 have all the backing tracks on the table with minus every guitar part and all

20:00 the vocals. Okay, so it kind of puts me this a lot where

20:03 I have to play the guitar and then I break from the rhythm guitars to

20:06 play the lead guitar, and it sounds a little thin through those areas,

20:07 but you know, it shows that I'm doing it, you know what I

20:11 mean? Yeah, And that's that's more important to me than the overall thing.

20:15 You know, give you a little different performance, show that I am

20:18 doing it, and I do all the vocals, and don't you just a

20:22 cool one because you know, I have that backing vocal in it and I

20:25 actually have to take real quick breath to put all that stuff in together.

20:27 I actually, I actually do play it and it does actually sound like that

20:33 in there. So yeah, live, yeah, oh, that's cool,

20:36 but yeah, I can see where that would be a challenge to do that.

20:40 Oh yeah, especially at the end, you know what I mean,

20:41 right right, Yeah, no doubt. How long do you play for?

20:45 When you play out? How long of a set do you do? Generally

20:48 forty to forty five minutes, depending on where I'm at sometimes, you know,

20:49 I hit a lot of open mics around the area to try to get

20:52 some local action. Yeah, which I do have some news that nobody knows

20:56 yet, oh that you're going to share it here? Yeah, I don't

21:00 know. Awesome. They haven't announced it announcement, but I got an email

21:03 this morning from Millville Music Festival and that's just that's around the Pittsburgh area and

21:07 it's a it's a really large festival and they have like three hundred local bands

21:11 and stuff like that. Yeah, and I got selected for it. So

21:15 May eighteenth, Oh, I can't say much more than that because I don't

21:18 they have to confirm times and you know all that. But May eighteenth,

21:22 I will be playing a festival there. So that'll be two festivals now that

21:26 I'm guaranteed this year. And I was waiting for a third one from Morgantown.

21:29 So hopefully I get that one as well. Oh congratulations. Yeah.

21:33 Festivals are are huge, are key for really helping you to build a fan

21:37 base because it gets you in front of a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't

21:41 know you at all necessarily, you know, And so that's that's fantastic now

21:45 is so you mentioned there's another festival that you're already confirmed for. H yeah,

21:49 July fifth. It's a Lambfest. It's an inaugural festival. It's going

21:55 to be near Eerie, PA in Linesville, Pennsylvania. Okay, And it's

21:59 a are doing four weekends like a ton of artists And I'm on the inaugural

22:03 weekend day Friday, the fifth, and I'm actually the third act I think,

22:08 or second act or something like that on the second stage. So okay,

22:14 it'll be really cool. It's all open air. I can't wait.

22:15 I love playing open air shows, do you Yeah? Why what is it

22:19 about it that you like? It's just the environment, you know, you's

22:22 just not closed in, you know, the sound just travels, and just

22:26 it's the people. It's just it's a whole different thing, you know.

22:30 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, When when you play out do you do the

22:33 whole because obviously if people have seen you online, you know you're you're You've

22:40 got a whole vibe going. I don't know quite quite how else to describe

22:44 it, but it's it's kind of theatrical and whatnot. Do you do that

22:47 for all your live shows? I do it for most of them. So

22:51 if I do an open mic and it's an acoustic or it's something that I

22:52 know and I'm going to play only like three or four songs, I don't

22:56 get all painted up. But you know, for my normal shows and the

22:59 festivals and things like that, I definitely get painted up for sure. Yeah.

23:02 Yeah, Are there any live videos of you online? Or obviously have

23:07 videos, but do you have any? I'm curious, if partly just selfishly,

23:12 I'm curious to see what it's like live. Do you have anything live

23:15 recorded? Yes? I do. I have on my YouTube page a bunch

23:19 of live stuff. And actually it's funny should ask that I had an incident

23:25 where I was at the Rock Room in Pittsburgh. I think it was this

23:26 past September, I think where the YouTube I was going to stream the whole

23:30 thing and my wife was helping me stream and the stream failed and somehow or

23:37 another I ended up with a video that had like like a portion of the

23:41 product and the whole Grim Rock Radio, but it was in great quality.

23:45 Like I was like, I was really kind of I couldn't believe my phone

23:49 with the mic and it took that yea, but apparently she had took that

23:53 in between and went back live. Well live sounds terrible because of the because

23:57 of the situation. It was a small thing. It was very loud.

24:00 Yeah, my mic didn't do very good job and it was really jittering on

24:04 the YouTube. But I ended up finding that and I actually just posted that.

24:08 I don't know, I think this past Tuesday or something, but grim

24:12 Rock Radio live performance at the Rocker Room in Pittsburgh is one of the last

24:17 ones I posted. I posted up for the hard Rock in Pittsburgh not too

24:22 long ago. That one's audio. I lost the video, But I have

24:26 other video live videos on there. Yeah yeah, different places. Yeah yeah

24:30 cool. Now I'm curious to to take a look at those. Do you

24:34 have other artists in the area that you play with in terms of that you

24:37 opened for or they opened for you. Yeah, there's several people. I've

24:42 made a lot of friends, you know, with that and Chocheck's one of

24:45 them. Synaestigie is another one. Vernautica. Just a whole bunch of people

24:52 around within the region you know that I've talked to are opened for played with

24:56 ya. But I keep I keeping a a really good contact with like Choshek

25:02 though, especially Jeremy the bass player. We talk all the time. We

25:04 actually talked this morning before I come on. But yeah, I mean it's

25:08 just you make a bond, you know, with some of these some of

25:11 these musicians, and you know, you're usually somewhere where everything or everybody's at.

25:15 God Hates Unicorns is another one around the area that I'm friends with,

25:19 you know. Just that's a great name, it is. They're a great

25:23 band too, they really are. Oh we might have to get them on

25:26 God Hates Unicorns. That's a fantastic name. Very cool. I mean,

25:32 but you're you kind of stand out right, I mean, obviously for what

25:37 you're doing. You're you're I mean, is there anybody in your area who's

25:42 doing anything like what you're doing it? It just seems like the grim rock

25:45 is so unique with the whole vibe and your sound too. I can't think

25:51 of anybody, I mean, Lewis Tivee from what I recall when we had

25:55 him on a little bit of I can I can see why the two of

25:59 you are able to work together. But you've got a unique sound. It's

26:03 got a little bit of a I know we talked about it before, but

26:04 to me, it's it's got a little bit of almost a garage rock kind

26:08 of vibe to it. And uh, I don't know. I mean,

26:12 is there anybody there who's doing anything like what you're doing? I don't think.

26:18 So. You know, there's a band that's around the area that has

26:22 I think they wear a mask that they're called thirteen o'coll. I've talked to

26:26 them. They play some different places. I hope to play a show with

26:29 them. But yeah, outside of that, I don't There's not very many

26:33 people that I know around here that's, you know, got a stage thing

26:37 like that or sounds like that. And you're right, it is more garage

26:41 rock, you know, because I'm a I'm a fan of like especially the

26:44 late sixties garage rock sound, you know, that raw sound, and I

26:48 try to I try to reproduce that, yeah, you know, faithfully,

26:51 you know, but you know, update it like I do. You know,

26:52 what I mean. Yeah, Uh, Stephen van Zandt used to have

26:56 a show. I don't think it exists anymore, or maybe it hasn't for

27:00 a long time. I don't even remember what it was called. I don't

27:02 know if you ever heard it, though it was, but it was all

27:04 That's what it was about. His His show, I think it was on

27:07 satellite radio, was all about garage rock because there's so much of that stuff

27:12 that you know, most most people aren't even aware of, or bands that

27:17 they might have heard of but have never actually listened to. But it's a

27:21 it's a fascinating genre. And I really like that production style and like I

27:26 said, that song, don't you, I just like, you know,

27:27 it's got that whole vibe to it, and I just really love it,

27:30 you know, and it's catchy as hell too, you know, it's just

27:33 really it gets stuck in your head. Yeah, I like that in grim

27:37 rock radio like the two that I really like playing live, and they're more

27:41 the commercial sounding, you know, thing that maybe somebody would play on a

27:45 radio, a real radio, you know, mainstream radio, yeah, versus

27:48 maybe the rest of them. Even though I, you know, I do

27:51 try to keep everything somewhat that it could get moved over, but it's still

27:56 kind of the indie style, you know thing. I try. I try

27:59 to blend it the best I can. Are people surprised when you play out,

28:03 when you when you are painted up, and it's because it's almost visually

28:10 it's it's got a little bit of a goth vibe. But then it's it's

28:12 not that. Do you surprise people? And if and if you do,

28:17 is it fun to surprise people? Because I would imagine it is. I

28:21 think I do. I think I catch people off guard with that because I

28:22 think they're expecting like slip nods and they see this and they're like, oh,

28:26 this guy's gonna be aultra heavy, And you know, I think I've

28:27 gotten a couple of shows, like the Rocker Rooms one of them that I

28:30 think that they thought maybe I was maybe heavier than I was, you know,

28:33 and I ended up being like I felt like I was like, uh,

28:37 you know, like light rock, like air Supply and that whole thing,

28:41 because those guys were heavy and they were I mean, they were lights

28:44 out bands. I mean I loved it. Yeah, But I think I

28:45 do catch people off guard with that, you know, and and once you

28:48 know, people see me a look like that. I think they you know,

28:51 they're they're in the perception they have of it changes and they're like,

28:56 wow, this guy, you know, he actually sounds all right, you

28:57 know, at least I hope. So yeah, yeah, that's gotta be

29:00 fun though, too, right. I mean, at least I know that

29:03 if I were in that position, I would take some sort of perverse joy

29:06 in that, Like people think that one thing is about to happen and then

29:10 it turns out to be something else, and just just seeing the surprise on

29:12 people's faces, I would think that would be fun. Oh it is.

29:15 You know. You can open the show and you're like, you know,

29:18 and then you just start into something. You don't really even introduce yourself,

29:21 you know. Like that's one of the things that I do every show,

29:25 is I do not introduce myself right away. Yeah, I'll rip out a

29:27 couple tracks and then I'll tell you who I am. If you haven't figured

29:30 it out by then, right, you know, but I'll do that.

29:33 And you know, another thing to do is I travel like that. So

29:36 if I have a g like the Green Beacon Galleries June eighth, that's in

29:41 Greensburg, Pennsylvania. So I'll travel that in my paint. So usually when

29:44 I do that kind of stuff, I'll like stop in a store a couple

29:47 of monster or something, and I'll either scare the crap out of everybody,

29:52 or somebody take a picture. I had somebody say it's not Halloween. I'm

29:55 like, yeah, it is so cool, and I'm like, can I

29:56 have your picture? I'm like yeah, you know little kids running away?

30:02 Was running away? You know in a dollar story. You know, Oh

30:06 yeah, hey, I come out of his sheets. I picked up it's

30:08 talking about Angel. I come out of his sheets up where she lives at

30:11 to travel to Cleveland for the first photo shoot for abyss Yea, And this

30:17 lady was like in her thing and she cracked her window in her car.

30:21 You can I'll have to have Angel send you this. She cracked her window

30:25 in her car and she's like, why are you so scary? I'm like,

30:26 do I look scary? She's like yeah. I'm like, but I'm

30:29 not really scary. She's like no. I'm like yeah, I'm like,

30:32 hey, can I get a picture with you? She's like uh, And

30:36 then she did like I think reluctantly. But I ended up posting on my

30:38 web page. She was really cool about it afterwards, but oh okay,

30:41 oh yeah, she cracked her window in all Man, I rolling into a

30:47 gas station and eerie after a gig that that's a whole nother thing there,

30:49 Like I thought the guy was going to hit the alarm. Oh really Yeah,

30:52 yeah, I'm just trying to pay for my gas so i can get

30:56 home, you know. Like, Yeah, if you walked into a bank

30:59 like that, they would hit the alarm. I'm sure, Oh yeah,

31:02 I wouldn't make it out of there. I'd be taking I'd be detained fairly

31:06 fast. I'm sure. No, not like that. I wouldn't. Yeah,

31:11 I wouldn't advise it, but yeah, I think like that either they

31:15 would not they would not let you on. I'm sure. Yeah. I

31:18 don't know if you're a Kiss fan, but hearing you talk about that reminds

31:21 me of Uh, there's these pictures of when Kiss first started, of them

31:25 in New York City and interacting with different people. And it's New York,

31:29 so you know, people don't really they expect to see everything and anything.

31:37 And there's these pictures of Kiss, like sitting on park benches with these these

31:41 old people who are just kind of smiling serenely at them because they don't know

31:47 what's going on, but they're kind of having fun with it, and they're

31:49 they're great pictures. I would encourage anyone to uh just uh google that like

31:56 Kiss New York City park bench or something. You'll you'll see all these really

31:59 fun pictures of of Kiss when they started, and you know, but again

32:02 it's it's New York too, so people were less uh shocked, I guess,

32:07 and more just kind of interested in but because you know, you'll see

32:10 everything in that city. But uh no, that's a that's awesome. Yeah,

32:17 I mean, and I would imagine two other musicians must uh like after

32:22 a show, after they see your set, you know, they they probably

32:24 uh they're they're probably expressed their surprise at at uh at what you at what

32:30 they saw. And I'm sure that opens up a lot of opportunities too,

32:34 because if you can surprise people, especially if you can surprise your fellow musicians

32:37 in that way and and in a positive way because you've got such a cool

32:42 sound, that helps you to kind of build build those connections because they're going

32:47 to remember if you if you can surprise someone, they're going to remember you.

32:52 Whereas if otherwise, you know, you might just be another fellow musician,

32:58 or you might just be if it's someone who's seen you, somebody in

33:00 that audience who's seen you for the first time, you know, just another

33:04 just another rock and roll show, right. But if you can surprise people,

33:07 they will absolutely remember you. You will be indelibly etched in their brain.

33:12 And I think that's I think that's a very cool element to what you

33:15 do. Is is that that surprise where the the image you see visually isn't

33:20 necessarily doesn't necessarily evoke what what is coming. And I think that's really cool.

33:27 Oh yeah, and that's how I end up getting the hard rock Pittsburgh

33:30 gig, really was because it's you know, a different band, the message

33:34 being like, hey, there's an opportunity you might want to check this guy

33:36 out. And that's how I ended up getting that. And you're right,

33:38 I mean, a lot of connections can be made, you know, because

33:42 of that. And I really believe that, you know, I mean,

33:45 I know, a paint up, but I really believe if I did not

33:47 have the face painting and a persona that was out there like that, I

33:52 wouldn't be seen the same, you know what I mean, I definitely agree

33:57 with that. Yeah, yeah, very cool. Well, in a couple

34:00 of moments, uh, Graham, we're gonna play this this track abyss uh,

34:05 which you were you were talking about earlier. But so so this is

34:08 not officially ol gr five. Do do we have any kind of an e

34:10 t A on on when this is going to be released? So I would

34:15 like to tell you yes I do. But I've been at this for a

34:19 while, you know, I'm just trying to make sure everything is right.

34:22 Yeah, you know, and it's taken me way longer, you know,

34:24 with other commitments and things that's going on. And I wish I could have

34:28 a time or a time frame, but I'm just you know, I'm hoping

34:31 a month or two, you know, more pressing on with this to get

34:36 it released. So yeah, excellent. And this track abyss, this has

34:39 not been heard anywhere on the radio yet and I actually was played on an

34:44 independent radio station before. Yeah, oh okay, I was going for the

34:49 world radio premiere. But I know, I wish I could have told you.

34:52 I didn't want to tell you otherwise, you know. Yeah, no,

34:54 better better to be honest. I appreciate that. Yeah, I mean

34:59 I would have love afford to be a premier, believe me, but it's

35:01 not. Yeah, that's all right, we'll get the next one. But

35:05 where should people go online? Where's the best place for people to go to

35:08 keep up with everything that you're doing. Best place is grim rockandroll dot com

35:15 all spelled out all one word, and you can find me everywhere that way.

35:19 And actually if you put Grim rock and Roll spelled out anywhere, you

35:22 can find me. So yes, yes, absolutely, and you are very

35:25 googleable, as I like to say, which is important, so very I

35:30 mean, I'm surprised I come up the way I do. Yeah, well

35:31 that's a good thing. That's that's good. All right, Grim we're gonna

35:35 we're gonna hit this track abyss uh. We'll let you go in a moment.

35:37 But thank you again for joining us today, and thank you for the

35:39 wonderful package. Like I said, unfortunately our video component isn't working this morning,

35:45 but Jenny and I will take a picture of it later, and we're

35:46 also gonna take a picture of us and our We've both got our Grim shirts

35:50 on, our Grimrock shirts that you sent us before. We love these and

35:52 we wear them any chance that we get, so we appreciate that and really

35:55 love the music, love what you're doing. I definitely appreciate being on here

36:00 for a second time. I'm really really thankful for that, and I appreciate

36:04 it all the time you have given me. And I'm glad you like the

36:07 stuff. Man. That's that logo, suf man, I'm telling you I

36:10 love that logo. I really do. It's on my computer. Yeah.

36:15 Yeah, she's got the sticker on her computer too. Yeah. I put

36:17 the new one on there too, Yeah yeah, absolutely absolutely all right,

36:22 grim thank you, thank you so much, grim Rock, and we will

36:27 wrap up the segment with this. This is abyss. Do you talk of

37:04 bills? Were my shot? Soul sills? My chaotic mind? Can and

37:15 the lot of fils is some women in fame, damage inflicted time and it

37:45 fim my math from where rap fl tipoln nothing is right, the weather chipol

38:52 fine jot and a doll about my life of controlling me refusing the sab freeze.

39:29 Why caam our job? Well, A side is out of MI when

40:09 I'm gonna sat uh you folks, American citizens, I am yet where were

40:38 you born? Missus? What little Telphia? My name is Vargas in jail

40:45 see who's here. Sure, mister Vargus, I'm in the trail of another

40:50 dope ring. I'm in the trail of a chocolate soda from my wife,

40:52 Your wife, Jey, your bride office. Hey, can I get through?

40:57 I want to talk up here about how you crack that brandy. Why?

41:00 Yeah, you caught the big boys, only one of them. The

41:02 Grandies are a big family. Good night, no purchases, mister Kay,

41:07 you American? This noise, okay, really the noise in my head?

41:19 Like, do you realize it's the very first time we've been together in my

41:22 country? Do you realize I haven't kissed you over an hour? Can't buss

41:35 off? No? Say you come? Like what happened? That car that

41:39 just passed is exploded? That I don't know. I'll have to try to

41:44 find out. You've better not coming east closer. We'll have to post before

41:49 in Minnesota. I'm afraid, like Zusie, please be careful staring. With

42:00 this sprawling, impeccable tracking shot that comes in at over four minutes, and

42:06 it concludes with dialogue and a car exploding, we are brought into one of

42:12 the highest regarded film noirs in cinema history. This film is from nineteen fifty

42:17 eight and it is directed by Orson Wells. Following ten years away in Europe,

42:23 I present to you Touch of Evil. The film stars Wells as corrupt

42:30 cop Hank Quinlan, who is investigating the car bomb explosion that kills a man

42:36 and his stripper girlfriend. His plans in getting a corrupt conviction are thwarted by

42:42 special Prosecutor Miguel Vargas played by Charlton Heston and his newlywed American wife Susy played

42:50 by starlet Janet Lee. The conflict between Quinlan and Vargas takes center stage early.

42:58 Quinlan is highly regarded by people in the area for his high conviction rate

43:04 that is obtained by dubious means. Right away, we can see here and

43:12 feel the tension between the quote unquote do gooder that is Vargas and the corrupt

43:19 Quinlan. Our first scene is the first encounter that two have with each other.

43:24 Then in the second scene where Vargas confronts Quinlan over planting evidence to secure

43:30 a confession and hopeful conviction on a man that is secretly married the male victim's

43:37 daughter, really pay attention to the tension in the first scene and how they

43:45 interact with each other. In the second scene, Vargas becomes more apt at

43:52 butting heads with Quinlan and doesn't have fear of him. In the second scene,

43:57 we should also tell you about my wife why it was accustaned in the

44:00 street a little while ago and led across to some guve on your side of

44:05 the border. H Parker's family. She's been getting into quite a lot of

44:08 trouble tonight. Can you describe this man of the first one? Young a

44:15 king man not exactly exactly says she was taking this guy by force? Not

44:22 by force. No one of the grandees was their weak, short fat with

44:28 a mustachecription. I haven't run into him. What they call him uncle Joe

44:31 man? That's right? Go on, what do you mean going? I've

44:37 told you what happened. Aren't you going to do something about it? I'm

44:40 making a charge, gonna ask a writer. Isn't that police procedure in Mexico?

44:44 Proceig your wife was a say she was just say she was molested,

44:47 physically molested. Nobs language. I do explained the fact that your wife allowed

44:53 herself to be picked up by was picked up Now, Hank, I think

44:57 we're getting off of the wrong tech here and this good luck and young man

45:00 was a friend of it, obviously not you wouldn't call that getting picture from

45:02 now. We mustn't forget, must be that mister Vocas is not a witness

45:07 stander. Hank's a born lawyer, you know, lawyer, and a lawyer

45:12 or a lawyer cares about it the law. You are a policeman, march

45:16 you you don't seem very fond of the job, bloody of soldiers who don't

45:21 like war. It's a dirty job forcing the law. But it's what we're

45:24 supposed to be doing. Is and I don't know about you. On a

45:28 murderers loose, I supposed to catch him. Well, pete, let's get

45:34 back to civilization. Let's go had tolsdry. You gotta get some rising.

45:49 Not a chance of that. They got to be dead. And now the

45:53 second scene, where is it? Foun what partner? Come here along?

46:00 I don't even know there's sanches? All right, boy boy, come in

46:04 here now? In English? Just how much dynamite was it you stole?

46:07 What good would it be to tell you that I've never seen anything? He

46:12 did? All he could keep it away from his daughter. She stamps and

46:14 haired a million bucks, so naturally you just moved in. He merch and

46:16 I were marrying secretly million bucks. Ain't no secret about that. Gods,

46:21 candy changees. Well, why don't you let up for a man? Got

46:23 yourself this highway out in to the explosive's been in, stole ten sticks and

46:30 no, well Ick has done it again. He's nailed his man thanks to

46:35 you. Pardon me. The dynamite had been a snake then in the battle,

46:38 but would have been was chief cool? And I keep you in form

46:43 bargains, so I'm doing it. This is it we broke in the case.

46:45 Rudy Lineker has blown up with eight sticks of dynamite and Sancho's stole ten.

46:50 That leaves two and we found them both. You heard that, boy,

46:53 We found the dynamite. That's imposta. We found two sticks, like,

47:00 what's right number? Where did you find this? Where you at the

47:04 stas? Of course, what are you trying to do? Trying to strap

47:07 you to the electric chair. We don't like it when people are brown to

47:09 jelly in our town. There's an old lady on main street last night I

47:13 picked up his shoe. Shoe had a foot in it. We're gonna make

47:15 you pay for them. They're trying to railroad me. I don't know why.

47:20 I never stole any dynamite, so you know, send for mother.

47:29 He swears on his mother's grave that there has never been any dynamite in this

47:32 apartment. Sure, sure, take him in booking, let's go. You

47:39 say you've found this dynamite air bathroom, Pete found it. Can't you do

47:45 something to help me? What are you scared of? That stuff is nearly

47:52 easy to blow up, as people seem to think. It doesn't go off

47:55 quickly. You found the dynamite in this box? Yeah, he founded towards

48:04 you. Then I looked in that box just now. There wasn't anything there.

48:15 I know how you feel. Do You'm sure? I do? Few

48:20 people are touchy. Film You Are is known for its plot twists and turns.

48:28 These turns are often loaded with gross betrayal. We are left wondering at

48:32 the end of the film, did anyone have intentions without ulterior motives? This

48:38 film carries that theory to the next level, even when seemingly detached from the

48:45 wicked ways. Within the world of this film, the characters go into the

48:50 dark recesses of their minds, and souls, and generally it is under the

48:54 guise in belief. The end justifies the means. Next, we will hear

49:01 Quinland implicate Vargas's wife for a drug induced murder. The truth is she has

49:07 been taken to a remote hotel for her protection, but unbeknownst to her husband,

49:14 the hotel is owned by Joe Grandy, the brother of a major narcotics

49:19 stealer that Vargas has put away. They use this to terrorize her and drug

49:25 her. This sets up Quinland starting to lose his grip on the corrupt world

49:30 he helped cultivate by murdering Grandy and setting up Susie for the crime. What

49:38 Vargas's wife an arcotics ramp one of the boys that was on this wild party

49:45 game of the buzzy. I just related to the vice voices Anonymous, the

49:52 hotel rich room mate. Anyway, things got a lot of control. Will

49:58 be surprised what they find. But what about me, Hans, what do

50:05 I do? Keep back them, break him, break him, put up

50:10 there for him. Let's see what you were? The key told you about

50:30 you up here for a reason. No drinking, don't ury lester, h

51:25 No, No, really bad you no As with any noir film, there

52:16 has to be a climactic ending touch of evil certainly delivers that as Vargas and

52:22 Quinland meet for a final showdown. In this scene. Notice how Quinlan,

52:30 despite being figured out, despite being at the end of the road, refuses

52:36 to back down. He has been defeated, his corrupt reign is over,

52:40 but yet he is still defiant in the face of law and order that is

52:45 represented by Vargas well keptain. I'm afraid this is finally something that can't talk

52:53 you away out of it. You want to bet you killed him? Veris

53:02 come my dollar? Give me my gun back? You don't know. It's

53:07 just telling me you killed Pete? Bullets from your gun? Do you think

53:15 anyone would believe that? They always believe me anyway. I never believed I

53:22 killed him. A gon. You're resisting arrest? How could you arrest me

53:30 here? This is my country and this is where you're gonna die. There

53:40 wasn't no miss focus. That was it to turn you around. I don't

53:44 wanna you turn him back unless you rally try to run for it. Mmm.

54:14 What is she there? They can bring my wife. She's in the

54:17 car. That's Mensi's he's dad. Quinlan's been shot too. He's lying by

54:22 the recorder down there. I've got it all on tape. You sure you

54:24 got enough? Pardon enough? Go play it back. You'll see Susie right.

54:40 Well, these years you've been playing me for a second, taking evidence,

54:45 aiding justice partner. Hang, Susie, it's all over, Susie.

54:57 I'm taking you home home minute, your friend know what it was in Gilly

55:06 Gilly. Hang. No, I ain't working for foss Okay, here it

55:13 is still doing. That's the second bullet I stopped for you. For anyone

55:24 that has never seen a film noir, or even if you are well versed

55:29 to the genre, this film is a mussy. It is filled with suspense,

55:34 beautiful cinematography, in biting dialogue, all well known aspects of the film

55:40 noir genre. It is the quintessential noir. Sadly, people did not feel

55:46 the same way. Upon release, the film was disregarded by critics and would

55:52 be Wells's last American made film before he went back to Europe. Much like

55:57 the earlier reviewed Magnificent Amberson's, Wells's final vision did not make it to the

56:04 big screen. He lost final editing when he refused to come to a redubbing

56:08 following a memo he sent to the studio. Unlike the Magnificent Amberson's, his

56:16 original vision was able to be restored in nineteen ninety eight. What they did

56:22 is followed the same memo Wells sent to the studio in post production. That

56:30 version has garnered mass acclaim and led to the film being deemed culturally significant.

56:37 Sadly, Wells would never see or hear this. He would never take part

56:43 of the acclaim because he died thirteen years prior in nineteen eighty five. Regardless,

56:51 the film has left a lasting impression on cinema, film reviewers, film

56:55 instructors, film students, and even those who have casual We watched it.

57:00 You owe it to yourself to view this film and enjoy it. For WMNH

57:07 and Matt Connorton Unleashed, this has been a classic film review with Eric Pilcher.

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