Matt Connarton Unleashed 4-25-26 hour 2

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1:20 Speaker 6: have more on that in the future. But Jenny is here,

1:23 Speaker 6: of course at the news table. And actually, actually I'm

1:26 Speaker 6: gonna let you introduce our guests because you've gotten an

1:29 Speaker 6: ore more than I more than I have, so but

1:31 Speaker 6: it is our second time on the show. Go ahead

1:33 Speaker 6: and introduce Amber.

1:35 Speaker 7: I know I put you on the Great Commissioner of

1:37 Speaker 7: the best city in the world.

1:40 Speaker 6: Hello, good morning Amber Nicole Cannon. We should probably should

1:43 Speaker 6: probably throw her name in there.

1:45 Speaker 5: I was letting your finish for giggle far Oh okay,

1:48 Speaker 5: I gotcha.

1:49 Speaker 7: Do you like to use the full or do you

1:50 Speaker 7: like Amber?

1:51 Speaker 5: I'm Amber Nicole. Yeah, like if people call me Amber,

1:55 Speaker 5: but it feels more like me to be Amber Nicole.

1:58 Speaker 7: Okay, I like that.

1:59 Speaker 6: Okay, I got that. And uh so you're the commissioner now.

2:03 Speaker 5: Well I'm I'm a one of the public works commission.

2:06 Speaker 8: Oh.

2:06 Speaker 6: I was gonna say, okay, I thought you were here

2:08 Speaker 6: to arrest us for something.

2:09 Speaker 7: I'm wanting for the bath signal.

2:11 Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't know what was going on.

2:12 Speaker 5: No, No, I'm not involved in police force at all. Okay,

2:16 Speaker 5: I'm about roads and sidewalks. I really like accessible sidewalks

2:20 Speaker 5: and bike lanes. Bike lanes make me very happy. I'm

2:25 Speaker 5: also very interested apparently in city plumbing, water treatment, and

2:29 Speaker 5: school repairs, building repairs.

2:32 Speaker 6: Well, very good, very good. Now, how do you how

2:35 Speaker 6: Because you and Jenny have collaborated recently right on something

2:38 Speaker 6: or some things.

2:40 Speaker 5: We've been very fortunate.

2:41 Speaker 6: Yes, what have you been doing? Well?

2:45 Speaker 5: So the reason, the thing that got me all involved

2:49 Speaker 5: in all this road and sidewalk and bike lanes stuff

2:52 Speaker 5: is I have disabilities, and my time in the city

2:57 Speaker 5: with disabilities was really challenging. So my visible disabilities right

3:01 Speaker 5: when I was in a wheelchair for a year and

3:04 Speaker 5: I had no energy to take care of anything. At

3:06 Speaker 5: that point, I'd go home crying regularly because they couldn't

3:09 Speaker 5: do the grocery shopping. But once I got out of

3:14 Speaker 5: the wheelchair, now I you know, people don't know I'm

3:16 Speaker 5: disabled if they just look at me. It's a lot

3:19 Speaker 5: easier for me to get around. So I have a

3:21 Speaker 5: little more energy. So I thought i'd put it into

3:23 Speaker 5: making the city a little bit more accessible, and so

3:27 Speaker 5: I do that mostly just by sitting in the monthly

3:30 Speaker 5: Department of Public Works meetings saying the words sidewalks and

3:33 Speaker 5: bike lanes. I think that's most of what I do.

3:37 Speaker 5: And they're doing a good job too. More so now

3:40 Speaker 5: like they have more people that are thinking about sidewalks

3:42 Speaker 5: and bike lanes and staff and people who are pushing

3:45 Speaker 5: towards that, but their funding keeps getting cut, of course,

3:49 Speaker 5: so they're struggling to keep the bike lanes and the

3:52 Speaker 5: roads in good shape, not to mention the sidewalks and

3:54 Speaker 5: the curb cuts and all those kinds of things.

3:56 Speaker 6: So what are some examples of things, Because obviously, you know,

3:59 Speaker 6: we have a lot of lessers locally in Manchester, but

4:01 Speaker 6: we also have people who listen online from other cities

4:03 Speaker 6: as well. But I think what you're talking about is

4:06 Speaker 6: relatable to anybody in any city, right, because this is

4:09 Speaker 6: a challenge absolutely anywhere everywhere, and probably well not just

4:14 Speaker 6: cities too, right, probably even more so in small towns

4:17 Speaker 6: in some ways, because they in smaller places, they probably

4:21 Speaker 6: think about this stuff even less.

4:22 Speaker 5: Right in small towns, Right, you might have a really

4:25 Speaker 5: really small center right where there might be sidewalks for houses,

4:29 Speaker 5: but then because the houses are more spread out, become

4:31 Speaker 5: exponentially more expensive per capita, right to put a sidewalk

4:35 Speaker 5: in that. They're like, oh, no, one's going to use that,

4:37 Speaker 5: but then that one person does. But also they can't

4:40 Speaker 5: use it if you don't put it there. People aren't

4:42 Speaker 5: going to want to walk on a busy road, right,

4:45 Speaker 5: especially in winter when the roads get even narrower. Right,

4:48 Speaker 5: So I'm always pushing for like really stable flat sidewalks

4:54 Speaker 5: with our curve cuts and tactile strips. I'm looking at

4:57 Speaker 5: a picture behind you right now of something that looks

4:59 Speaker 5: like that, pretty good shape and plenty of crosswalks because

5:04 Speaker 5: and traffic calming measures. I'm a big fan of traffic

5:07 Speaker 5: calming measures, yes, because I walk a lot of places.

5:11 Speaker 5: My disabilities currently sometimes keep me from driving. So I

5:15 Speaker 5: want a city where people can walk safely. I want

5:18 Speaker 5: a city where kids can leave Central High School and

5:21 Speaker 5: walk to the Courier Museum of Art after school. And

5:24 Speaker 5: right now, that's kind of iffy, you know what I mean? Like,

5:27 Speaker 5: maybe I don't want to do that because there are

5:30 Speaker 5: cars literally parked on the sidewalk.

5:32 Speaker 6: When you say a traffic calming measure, I think I

5:35 Speaker 6: know what you mean. But for those who don't know,

5:36 Speaker 6: or maybe I'm wrong, I don't want to assume anything.

5:39 Speaker 6: What do you mean by that?

5:40 Speaker 5: Oh, there's so many good ones. My favorite one right now,

5:42 Speaker 5: at least because I have a favorite one right now

5:45 Speaker 5: is bump outs. Okay. And what this does is it's

5:48 Speaker 5: when you know it cars turning. If you watch the

5:50 Speaker 5: video behind, you see they turn and there's plenty of

5:53 Speaker 5: space between them and the sidewalk. What we can do

5:55 Speaker 5: is we can take that space back for pedestrians, shorten

5:59 Speaker 5: that bossing distance, and it shortens the amount of time

6:02 Speaker 5: people spend in the intersection, therefore reducing the times that

6:06 Speaker 5: they might get hit.

6:08 Speaker 9: Right.

6:09 Speaker 5: And actually, oh my gosh, this is so funny. Yesterday

6:11 Speaker 5: I did literally get hit. It was really really slow. Yeah, no,

6:14 Speaker 5: I was. I was. I was in a crosswalk and

6:16 Speaker 5: the guy just didn't look right. And I was in

6:18 Speaker 5: I was in a bright pink jacket. I wasn't in brown.

6:20 Speaker 5: I was I'm usually very brightly dressed, and and I

6:24 Speaker 5: was walking in front of this this gold SUV thing.

6:27 Speaker 5: And because he parked, he stopped in the crosswalks. I'm like, okay,

6:30 Speaker 5: I guess I gotta stop in front him. But he

6:32 Speaker 5: was looking and left under the you know, traffic coming

6:34 Speaker 5: on and not right at all, and so I'm in

6:37 Speaker 5: front of him and he bumps into me. It was

6:38 Speaker 5: real slow. It was real slow, so I, you know,

6:40 Speaker 5: pounded on his head like hey, I'm walking here.

6:42 Speaker 6: Yea, And like in Urban Cowboy then is Urban Cowboy?

6:49 Speaker 10: No?

6:50 Speaker 6: No, not Urban Cowboy was one of the movies. Yeah,

6:55 Speaker 6: what is uh?

6:56 Speaker 5: Anyway, it was It's a media reference that I'm not,

6:59 Speaker 5: you know, really sure.

7:00 Speaker 7: And yeah I can see it, but I can't see it.

7:06 Speaker 6: I'm embarrassing anyway, I'm sorry I derailed you.

7:09 Speaker 5: Go ahead, No, it's fine, I know the meme, not

7:11 Speaker 5: the movie, and I just I just kept walking like

7:15 Speaker 5: like and this is not the first time either, but

7:18 Speaker 5: so that's like super low speed. Like my thigh was

7:20 Speaker 5: just bummed. But you know, there are people that are

7:22 Speaker 5: dying in the city because of because of challenges with

7:27 Speaker 5: pedestrian and vehicle interactions. To say it lightly, so bumpouts

7:33 Speaker 5: are a great one. The other thing they can do

7:35 Speaker 5: is they can narrow the roads, and when you narrow

7:38 Speaker 5: the roads, the cars feel like they need to go

7:40 Speaker 5: slower to be safe, which is really great. So it

7:42 Speaker 5: reduces speeding other traffic calming measures. Bringing our two lane

7:47 Speaker 5: one ways to one lane so we don't get people

7:50 Speaker 5: like trying to race down them, and that has worked

7:52 Speaker 5: on like Maple streets. It's great. And then it added

7:57 Speaker 5: the bike lane, which has really made things a lot

8:00 Speaker 5: easier to get around if you use a wheelchair in

8:02 Speaker 5: the winter or a stroller, because our sidewalks don't always

8:05 Speaker 5: get plowed quickly, so they're using people in wheelchairs and

8:08 Speaker 5: using strollers are using the bike lanes in the winter

8:11 Speaker 5: because they do get plaid.

8:13 Speaker 7: Right, Okay, but I don't like the bike lane being

8:15 Speaker 7: in the middle of the road.

8:15 Speaker 5: I agree, I'd like it protected, but it's a first step.

8:18 Speaker 5: I see it as a first step yep, forwards more

8:20 Speaker 5: biking infrastructure.

8:22 Speaker 6: But I do like, though, you know what you're referring

8:24 Speaker 6: to when you take the two lane one way and

8:26 Speaker 6: put it down to one lane, because there's always people that

8:28 Speaker 6: are going to complain, well, well, this isn't traffic going

8:30 Speaker 6: to be slower, but it really isn't, and it is safer,

8:32 Speaker 6: it's better for everybody.

8:34 Speaker 5: It's so I've never seen traffic on any of those streets,

8:38 Speaker 5: like there's never been more than like five cars.

8:40 Speaker 6: And exactly exactly.

8:42 Speaker 5: Do we really need two lanes for that.

8:44 Speaker 6: Oh oh, by the way, I found I'm sorry. It

8:45 Speaker 6: was Midnight Cowboy and I actually I actually have the clipper,

8:48 Speaker 6: but each.

8:49 Speaker 2: Gale should want to buy it.

8:50 Speaker 6: Most of them are old and.

8:52 Speaker 2: Dignified social registered Times, you know what I mean. They

8:55 Speaker 2: can't be trotting down a Times Square to pick off

8:58 Speaker 2: the merchant died and I gotta some kind of middleman.

9:02 Speaker 7: And that's whorld Daniel comes in, you know what I mean?

9:11 Speaker 6: There you go.

9:12 Speaker 10: And the funny thing about that was that was not

9:14 Speaker 10: part of the movie. It was legit, no something. I

9:18 Speaker 10: saw some outtake on it saying that that wasn't actually

9:24 Speaker 10: that that really happened on him like that, and that's

9:27 Speaker 10: what he did, and they kept it in.

9:28 Speaker 5: The movie Real life experienced city dwelling. Right, we're small city,

9:33 Speaker 5: but it still happens.

9:37 Speaker 10: Are the things that the city can do or does

9:41 Speaker 10: to try And I don't know if I should say

9:45 Speaker 10: educate people or stop people or from because what my

9:50 Speaker 10: pet peeve is is when you go to a handicap

9:52 Speaker 10: space and somebody parks their car on the lines next

9:57 Speaker 10: to it, between the handicap car and the you're trying

10:00 Speaker 10: to use to get on the sidewalk.

10:03 Speaker 7: Oh, I'm just gonna be here in a minute. I'mn't

10:04 Speaker 7: in for food.

10:05 Speaker 10: And it's like, I don't think people understand that when

10:08 Speaker 10: you do that, sometimes what happens is the person who

10:12 Speaker 10: is going to use that space goes home.

10:14 Speaker 5: Yeah, because they don't spend their money at this business.

10:16 Speaker 10: They have no idea how long that why they can't

10:18 Speaker 10: get out of their car and go anywhere because you've

10:20 Speaker 10: just cut off the ramp.

10:22 Speaker 5: Right, and we need that ramp sometimes to get in

10:24 Speaker 5: and out of our cars, right, and like you can't

10:27 Speaker 5: get out of the car if that space is blocked.

10:30 Speaker 5: It's just like yeah, like if.

10:32 Speaker 10: You're a wheelchair user and you need to put a

10:34 Speaker 10: ramp down to get your wheelchair out, there's no way

10:36 Speaker 10: to get out. That's that space is part of the

10:38 Speaker 10: handicap parking space. Is it's not beside it. It's not

10:41 Speaker 10: a no parking zone. It's literally part of the handicapped

10:45 Speaker 10: space to enable somebody to be able to pull out

10:48 Speaker 10: a ramp and fully yuxit their vehicle and safely get

10:52 Speaker 10: up onto the sidewalk, because you know what, you can't

10:54 Speaker 10: do very well in a wheelchair, especially the heavy electric

10:57 Speaker 10: ones is jump a curb herbs. You can't shut the curb,

11:00 Speaker 10: you can't step up on the curb.

11:02 Speaker 7: You need the ramp.

11:04 Speaker 10: So when you park your car on the ramp, you

11:06 Speaker 10: trap the handicapped.

11:08 Speaker 5: Individual either in the rest or disabled in their car.

11:11 Speaker 5: Yeah right, Like it's no good. And there were so

11:14 Speaker 5: many times when I was so I had a variety

11:17 Speaker 5: of devices to get around. Sometimes it was a wheelchair,

11:19 Speaker 5: sometimes it was like a peg leg because I still

11:22 Speaker 5: had one good foot. But the number of times where

11:24 Speaker 5: like the only task I could really do to contribute

11:27 Speaker 5: to my family life was do the grocery shopping. I

11:29 Speaker 5: couldn't get the groceries out of the car and into

11:30 Speaker 5: the house, but I could do the shopping, and if

11:32 Speaker 5: I timed it right right, I could bring them home.

11:34 Speaker 5: My husband my partner would come home, unload the car,

11:37 Speaker 5: and I'd have done something helpful for us at the

11:39 Speaker 5: right time. And it felt huge right to be able

11:42 Speaker 5: to contribute that way. And when the spaces were blocked,

11:46 Speaker 5: either because someone was parked in the parallel lines or

11:48 Speaker 5: people were like, oh, I'm just picking someone up, I'm

11:50 Speaker 5: waiting for them to come in and out. But you

11:52 Speaker 5: don't have an accessible pacord. Then you're not supposed to

11:56 Speaker 5: be in that spot. I understand that people can have

11:58 Speaker 5: temporary abilities, like you know all the time, but then

12:02 Speaker 5: you have to go and get your your placard, go

12:05 Speaker 5: through the process, get the placard. Absolutely, maybe you should

12:08 Speaker 5: have one.

12:08 Speaker 7: There are temporary handicap placards. That's what they're for.

12:11 Speaker 5: Doable, that's what they're for. And then I would not

12:14 Speaker 5: be able to accomplish my one task for the day.

12:17 Speaker 5: And I would go into businesses and I would tell

12:19 Speaker 5: them I was like, hey, you know, like in parking,

12:21 Speaker 5: lots of grocery stores, you know, that have accessible space

12:25 Speaker 5: spaces set aside just for their premise. And I go

12:29 Speaker 5: in science to be like, hey, do you know that

12:30 Speaker 5: you have a lot of people doing this that you

12:32 Speaker 5: know it's keeping me from being able to come in here,

12:34 Speaker 5: And they tell me it wasn't a priority. Like yeah,

12:37 Speaker 5: talk about the trauma that people with disabilities experienced just

12:40 Speaker 5: literally being told they're not a priority or the afterthought.

12:44 Speaker 6: And by the way, too for people who do that,

12:46 Speaker 6: who do park in a handicapped spot when they shouldn't,

12:49 Speaker 6: you know, even if they're just a sociopath and they

12:51 Speaker 6: don't care about anybody else. They should at least care

12:54 Speaker 6: that they might get a what is it, a five

12:55 Speaker 6: hundred dollars fine if you get caught doing that.

12:58 Speaker 5: True, you can call the parking department, yes, and tell

13:01 Speaker 5: people that are and tell them yes. And they they've

13:04 Speaker 5: told me that they do like those tickets because they

13:07 Speaker 5: are such big generators. Yes, so you know, do call

13:12 Speaker 5: the parking department. Their their numbers on their website and

13:15 Speaker 5: they say when they when they can, they'll send someone out.

13:18 Speaker 6: I saw it happen once in real time. I was

13:20 Speaker 6: at the not well there.

13:21 Speaker 7: Was well we were on Elmstreir.

13:23 Speaker 6: There was that. But I also saw even before that,

13:26 Speaker 6: like years ago. I think it was when we first

13:27 Speaker 6: moved to Manchester. I was getting the mail downtown because

13:30 Speaker 6: we have a post office box, and I saw some

13:32 Speaker 6: some entitled jerk just you know, he parked across from

13:35 Speaker 6: the y but in one of.

13:37 Speaker 10: The spots, in one of only two hendicaffed spots in

13:41 Speaker 10: that area.

13:42 Speaker 7: It's not like there's a bunch in that area. It's

13:44 Speaker 7: literally two.

13:45 Speaker 6: And he's and he's uh, and he got, you know,

13:47 Speaker 6: he got. He's on his way back to his car

13:49 Speaker 6: and the parking UH parking enforcement guy was waiting for him,

13:53 Speaker 6: and excellent gave him a ticket, and of course the

13:55 Speaker 6: guy's arguing with him. You know, well, you know, I

13:58 Speaker 6: was only in there for a few minutes. It's like,

14:00 Speaker 6: it's not the point.

14:00 Speaker 10: Doing And that's always the excuse. It's only a few minutes.

14:03 Speaker 10: Your only a few minutes. Stop somebody else's life. Get

14:08 Speaker 10: in their tracks. They can't do anything, they can't go anywhere,

14:11 Speaker 10: they can't accomplish what they're doing. You can accomplish what

14:13 Speaker 10: you're accomplishing from any other location.

14:16 Speaker 7: They can't. So we some have happens, and I've seen

14:19 Speaker 7: it happen and I've done it myself. We go home,

14:22 Speaker 7: we can't get what we need.

14:23 Speaker 10: To get done done where we go home, And that is,

14:28 Speaker 10: in and of itself, is a really depressing thing to

14:30 Speaker 10: have happened. It's in disability life. Your limitations are as

14:36 Speaker 10: such that anything you can do independently is a very valued.

14:41 Speaker 5: I say it sent me home in tears on more

14:44 Speaker 5: than one occasion.

14:45 Speaker 10: I'm glad to know that you're doing this, that there's

14:48 Speaker 10: a voice, and I like the fact that you're you

14:51 Speaker 10: are a disabled person who is sitting at the table

14:54 Speaker 10: because I'm a firm believer and nothing about us without us.

14:57 Speaker 7: You know, when they.

14:57 Speaker 10: Create laws about disavailable people, but they don't include us

15:01 Speaker 10: at the table when they're creating that law or that

15:04 Speaker 10: program or that thing, so they don't really consider our perspective.

15:07 Speaker 7: They consider what they think our perspective is right.

15:10 Speaker 5: And then on top of that, I'm going to add

15:12 Speaker 5: to that, not only should we be sitting at the table, okay,

15:15 Speaker 5: but maybe consider paying us for our lived expertise, because

15:19 Speaker 5: having us consult on projects about whether something is accessible

15:23 Speaker 5: or not is wonderful. We want to be there, but

15:26 Speaker 5: you need to also recognize that it is an expertise

15:30 Speaker 5: that you know, paying a consulting fee isn't out of

15:33 Speaker 5: the question, right that this is you need this information

15:38 Speaker 5: and we have this information right right?

15:41 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, you need.

15:42 Speaker 10: To have like a It really forms around a discussion

15:45 Speaker 10: of trying to get people to change the way they

15:47 Speaker 10: think instead of thinking of disability as something special we

15:52 Speaker 10: have to do something special for you. We don't want

15:54 Speaker 10: anything special. We just want the same accessibility at everybody

15:58 Speaker 10: else house. I want to be able to walk through

16:00 Speaker 10: that business's door just like you do, which means I

16:02 Speaker 10: have to be able to park, and I have to

16:04 Speaker 10: be able to get out of the car onto the

16:06 Speaker 10: sidewalk to.

16:07 Speaker 5: That door and then through the door.

16:09 Speaker 7: And then through the door.

16:10 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yes, Oh, there's so many things.

16:14 Speaker 10: You have a lot of hats though, you know a

16:16 Speaker 10: lot your commissioner, you work on these issues for the city.

16:20 Speaker 5: Yes, I'm a person with disabilities who's you know, constantly

16:23 Speaker 5: advocating whenever I can. I'm also the founder of Uncharted.

16:28 Speaker 5: It's a it's a nonprofit here in Manchester that teaches

16:33 Speaker 5: kids science, but we package it to look like art.

16:36 Speaker 5: We took them into thinking it's art. And we're doing

16:39 Speaker 5: that from like because I've talked about it here with y'all,

16:42 Speaker 5: we're doing it from Franklin, New Hampshire down to Lowell,

16:44 Speaker 5: Massachusetts's awesome. And I've got ten people working for me

16:47 Speaker 5: doing this.

16:48 Speaker 7: That is so awesome.

16:49 Speaker 5: It's honestly the best life ever.

16:53 Speaker 6: That's great.

16:54 Speaker 7: How do you make science look like art?

16:56 Speaker 5: Okay, so I think we mostly have an adult audience here,

17:00 Speaker 5: So I'm going to talk about a slime I'm inventing

17:02 Speaker 5: right now. So for the Sahegan Valley Rotary Club, they

17:07 Speaker 5: have a big Kentucky Derby party at the at one

17:10 Speaker 5: of the casinos to raise funds, and they are constantly

17:13 Speaker 5: giving away funds. They gave us funds. They're really great,

17:15 Speaker 5: and they wanted a gift basket that people can raffle on,

17:19 Speaker 5: and so I'm going to invent a mint julip slime

17:25 Speaker 5: for them. So last night I was boiling down a

17:28 Speaker 5: handle of bourbon to make the smell for the slime.

17:33 Speaker 5: I'm getting gold, I'm getting ice cubes, I'm getting horses.

17:36 Speaker 5: And that's a real simple one, right, But I'm doing

17:38 Speaker 5: science trying to figure out how do I put bourbon

17:40 Speaker 5: smell in a slime for an adult giveaway. But I

17:44 Speaker 5: thought of those things for a lot of concepts for kids.

17:47 Speaker 5: Whether it's like what is ambergris right, that comes out

17:50 Speaker 5: of whales and washes up on the shore and is

17:53 Speaker 5: found in perfumes. Is it their earwax?

17:58 Speaker 7: But we put it in perfumes your whack it's.

18:02 Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, yeah, it's a it's a good way to

18:06 Speaker 5: describe it. Or or like how does a whale feel

18:11 Speaker 5: in compared to a shirk? What's their skin like? And

18:13 Speaker 5: I can do that entirely with slime.

18:17 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, she's uh, we've both been coffin. Oh no, allergies.

18:22 Speaker 6: We're not sick, it's just out.

18:24 Speaker 7: Yeah, my nose won't stop.

18:25 Speaker 6: The allergies brutal.

18:27 Speaker 7: It's I'm living on and musinacha.

18:30 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my life too. Sometimes mine's more than the fall.

18:33 Speaker 5: I'm fortunate like the spring when I get the fall.

18:36 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh it's it's been awful. The magnolias are yeah,

18:39 Speaker 6: I mean everything's blooming all at once, and yeah this

18:42 Speaker 6: is this is particularly rough on this year for whatever reason.

18:45 Speaker 5: But the hyacinths were strong. I smelled them in my

18:47 Speaker 5: French porch. I've got a really great set of hyacinths

18:50 Speaker 5: I put in and they just they were pungent this week.

18:53 Speaker 6: So oh really yeah, high here.

18:55 Speaker 10: Yeah, it is a beautiful magnolia tree right out of

18:59 Speaker 10: my art space, right out the outside of the window.

19:02 Speaker 7: It's gorgeous, but it kills me.

19:03 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's to look at.

19:05 Speaker 5: But at Magnolias are some of the oldest trees around.

19:09 Speaker 5: They were around when dinosaurs were around.

19:11 Speaker 6: Really, yes, well I didn't know that.

19:14 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're a really cool tree, Like in general, they're

19:16 Speaker 5: just a cool tree. So but that that kind of thing.

19:19 Speaker 5: So when we're talking about dinosaurs, you better believe we're

19:21 Speaker 5: gonna tell kids about magnolias. But we are all about,

19:26 Speaker 5: you know, using slime to educate with a variety of concepts.

19:29 Speaker 5: Or we can use paint and talk about negative and

19:32 Speaker 5: positive space, or we can talk about color play, right,

19:35 Speaker 5: more than and cool. While that's art, that's also science.

19:38 Speaker 5: That's physics, and that's light waves, and we can talk

19:41 Speaker 5: about that. We also use like zombies fun. Zombies is

19:45 Speaker 5: a lot of fun. So zombies wear their anatomy on

19:47 Speaker 5: the outside, right, So what a great way to get

19:50 Speaker 5: kids excited about learning anatomy, bones, digestive system. And then

19:54 Speaker 5: also we can talk about why do rotting things smell bad?

19:59 Speaker 5: And and what what does zombie actually smell like? And

20:02 Speaker 5: we can put that smell into this line for real, right,

20:04 Speaker 5: and we can put little decomposing parts and little worms

20:07 Speaker 5: and maggots, and the kids love it. Oh, it's very gross,

20:10 Speaker 5: it's lovely. The kids kids so excited by it, and

20:14 Speaker 5: it's that excitement that makes sure that they internalize the

20:17 Speaker 5: concepts and then hold on to it, you know, just

20:20 Speaker 5: the length of the class.

20:21 Speaker 6: So what was the genesis of unchartered. Why how did

20:25 Speaker 6: you start this?

20:26 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm a biomedical artist. That's my degree is

20:29 Speaker 5: in biomedical art, and so I work.

20:32 Speaker 7: Can you explain what biomedical art is?

20:34 Speaker 6: And that's an actual degree biomedical art.

20:36 Speaker 7: I didn't know that was a degree.

20:37 Speaker 5: There's only two programs lest I checked in North America

20:41 Speaker 5: that graduate people with this degree. So I went to

20:44 Speaker 5: the Cleveland Institute of Art, a team of Case Western

20:47 Speaker 5: Reserve University for the science courses. And it's a combination

20:52 Speaker 5: of art and science. Well, think about it. This, that's

20:55 Speaker 5: the way you have science books, right, Somebody you had

20:57 Speaker 5: one either in school when you were like when you

20:59 Speaker 5: were in high school or whatever, and there were drawings

21:01 Speaker 5: in those books. Someone has to do them. Okay, Now

21:05 Speaker 5: it gets a little more Yeah, so it gets a

21:09 Speaker 5: little more complicated than that. Like my favorite is when

21:12 Speaker 5: you know there's a new technique or a new science

21:14 Speaker 5: or a new protein that's discovered, and we need to

21:17 Speaker 5: have ways to demonstrate to people what that is and

21:20 Speaker 5: what that looks like, a new surgical procedure, a clinical

21:25 Speaker 5: trial that's being you know, recruited for that kind of thing.

21:27 Speaker 5: So I did work in radio pharmaceutical clinical trials for

21:31 Speaker 5: a number of years doing like informed consent and patient

21:34 Speaker 5: and physician recruitment ups and downs in the pharmaceutical industry,

21:38 Speaker 5: and it was honestly uncharted. With was an accident. People

21:43 Speaker 5: always just stare at me in disbelief. But it was

21:46 Speaker 5: an accident. I just started tutoring a young man who

21:48 Speaker 5: was gifted in science. I wanted to get better at

21:51 Speaker 5: art and I was between jobs right with the layoffs

21:54 Speaker 5: in the industry. And it went really well. So his

21:56 Speaker 5: mom asked if I wanted to teach a class after

21:58 Speaker 5: school at the school she worked, And then and then

22:01 Speaker 5: Player's Charter school wanted the same thing. Within two weeks,

22:05 Speaker 5: I was in two schools, and then within six months

22:08 Speaker 5: I was in all the Title one schools in Manchester.

22:10 Speaker 6: Wow.

22:11 Speaker 7: So awesome.

22:11 Speaker 5: And here we are eight years later, and as of

22:14 Speaker 5: this month, we've been a nonprofit for one whole year, okay,

22:17 Speaker 5: which means we can apply for grants and bring our

22:19 Speaker 5: programming to people for free. Wow, which is my favorite.

22:24 Speaker 5: I love the I hate billing people. I just want

22:26 Speaker 5: to give every way everything away for free. Unfortunately I

22:30 Speaker 5: have people I need to pay and I kind of

22:32 Speaker 5: need to make money too. Yes, sometimes. So yeah, we're

22:37 Speaker 5: being able to, Like we got grants from like the

22:39 Speaker 5: Bean Foundation and Citizens Bank and Saint Mary's and they've

22:43 Speaker 5: helped us both with our space expansion. So we're in

22:45 Speaker 5: a totally new space now. We went from my six

22:49 Speaker 5: hundred squarefoot garage to a twelve hundred square foot place

22:53 Speaker 5: at the corner of Alman Webster. Okay, and we've already

22:56 Speaker 5: filled it somehow, it's not that surprising, I guess when

22:58 Speaker 5: I think of all this stuff we have. But we

23:00 Speaker 5: pay callers supplies, we pack them, and we take them

23:02 Speaker 5: to the schools, to the classrooms so that students don't

23:06 Speaker 5: have to get transported, right, you don't have to go

23:08 Speaker 5: somewhere else to get these classes. We're in the schools

23:11 Speaker 5: where the kids are, and our favorite place to be

23:13 Speaker 5: is in our Title one schools, where the kids don't

23:16 Speaker 5: always have everything everyone else does. So it's Title one

23:19 Speaker 5: means the schools, like half the schools on lunch assistance.

23:22 Speaker 6: Okay, these are.

23:23 Speaker 5: The schools that need the programming, that need the homework help,

23:27 Speaker 5: that need to know that science is fun and creative. Yes,

23:33 Speaker 5: and so now we're on all the Title one schools

23:35 Speaker 5: in Nashville as well, and we're also working with Franklin

23:38 Speaker 5: High School that just got they just got New Hampshire

23:40 Speaker 5: School of the Year because of the unique programs and

23:42 Speaker 5: we're one of the huge congratulations to Franklin. Franklin High

23:48 Speaker 5: School and David over there, the principal, revolutionary, wonderful thought processes.

23:54 Speaker 5: I love everything going on there, and so we've been

23:56 Speaker 5: able to contribute there. And then we work like housing

23:58 Speaker 5: in Urban Development and loll and we're gonna we just

24:01 Speaker 5: got a new grant with Positive Street Art where we're

24:04 Speaker 5: going to be doing mural work and teaching the kids

24:06 Speaker 5: how to make the murals, and then Positive Street is

24:07 Speaker 5: going to take the whole community and work through a big, big,

24:10 Speaker 5: bad York can I Okay, I'm I'm always in the school,

24:16 Speaker 5: so I realized. But it's going to be really beautiful

24:18 Speaker 5: because we know that the work that they're constantly produces

24:21 Speaker 5: absolutely top tier, and so we're getting to collaborate on that.

24:24 Speaker 6: Project in terms of how you do this. Did you

24:28 Speaker 6: does something like this already exists elsewhere that you were

24:31 Speaker 6: able to sort of model or get ideas from, or

24:33 Speaker 6: did you have to come up with this whole concept

24:36 Speaker 6: on your own?

24:37 Speaker 5: I came up with it.

24:38 Speaker 6: Wow, that's a that's awesome.

24:41 Speaker 5: Like for me, art and science has always been something

24:44 Speaker 5: that's together. I don't see them necessarily separate. I was

24:48 Speaker 5: my mom homeschooled me growing up. She's an engineer, so

24:50 Speaker 5: she was able to give me all the science I

24:52 Speaker 5: possibly wanted. But I, you know, as she says it,

24:55 Speaker 5: I was out drawing her in like first grade. Wow,

24:58 Speaker 5: she knew art was going to be a part of

24:59 Speaker 5: my life, Okay, and so I was just always able

25:02 Speaker 5: to combine them in my explorations. And so I've been

25:04 Speaker 5: able to take that and give it to other people. Okay,

25:08 Speaker 5: that my life experience is being homeschooled and arts and

25:11 Speaker 5: science educated, right, and combine them in the ways that

25:14 Speaker 5: I see the world, and really modern education silos subjects

25:18 Speaker 5: in ways that didn't used to happen.

25:21 Speaker 6: Okay.

25:21 Speaker 5: You think of the Renaissance, the Renaissance artist, right, and

25:24 Speaker 5: they were. They were engineers, they were artists, they were oriitators,

25:27 Speaker 5: they were poets, they were they were building buildings, they

25:31 Speaker 5: were architects. Like the science and art was always together,

25:34 Speaker 5: it wasn't separate. Yeah, because art is ultimately a way

25:38 Speaker 5: to process what we know and what earned and communicated

25:41 Speaker 5: to others. Right, So it's a more recent invention, and

25:46 Speaker 5: I think we should do away with the siloin like

25:49 Speaker 5: art and science always together.

25:50 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, interesting. Yeah, I'm curious about the homeschooling thing

25:57 Speaker 6: because there's a stigma. I don't think we talked about

25:59 Speaker 6: this some of you were Now there's there's such a

26:01 Speaker 6: stigma attached to that. But you seem like an example

26:06 Speaker 6: of someone who clearly would would cut against the stigma

26:09 Speaker 6: because you're obviously very successful at what you're doing. It

26:11 Speaker 6: sounds like for you, homeschooling worked out pretty pretty well.

26:14 Speaker 5: So I was homeschooled. So I went to kindergarten because

26:17 Speaker 5: I went to kindergarten very early. I wanted to go

26:19 Speaker 5: to school. I was born at home, and so my

26:21 Speaker 5: mom's sent me to a private school kindergarten, and then

26:23 Speaker 5: I I But then we moved. So we were in

26:26 Speaker 5: the military, so I moved a lot growing up, Like

26:28 Speaker 5: we were living in Texas and New Mexico, Korea, Hawaii,

26:32 Speaker 5: like I was all over the place. So homeschooling made

26:34 Speaker 5: sense from a consistency stamp.

26:35 Speaker 6: Oh, so you weren't, So you weren't constantly being put

26:38 Speaker 6: into a school only to be taken out of it

26:40 Speaker 6: and then putting out another school.

26:42 Speaker 5: And okay, exactly, and so that allowed a lot of

26:44 Speaker 5: consistency with my education. Yeah, and my mom's an engineer

26:48 Speaker 5: and my dad, you know, has a physics degree, so

26:50 Speaker 5: they were able to educate in subjects and allow me

26:55 Speaker 5: to explore, like I think I probably went to college

26:57 Speaker 5: level anatomy and physiology in third grade so interested. It

27:02 Speaker 5: allowed me to explore and hyper fixate on the subjects.

27:06 Speaker 5: I was most what is your IQ. I've not been tested.

27:11 Speaker 5: I'm not I have family members who are. I have

27:13 Speaker 5: not been tested.

27:15 Speaker 7: I have not been tested.

27:16 Speaker 5: Ah but yeah, I mean I so I in high school,

27:20 Speaker 5: I graduated thirty second in class at six hundred and

27:22 Speaker 5: twenty five. So I did alright for myself. Yeah, yeah,

27:26 Speaker 5: but yeah, the homeschooling allowed that consistency. But you know,

27:31 Speaker 5: my parents also were very aware of that stigma. So

27:34 Speaker 5: they've worked with homeschooling groups. And I was constantly in

27:36 Speaker 5: sports teams. So I know that there's this idea that

27:39 Speaker 5: homeschoolers are anti social or can't socialize, and that hasn't

27:44 Speaker 5: been what I've noticed. I know there are homeschool but

27:46 Speaker 5: I would say that maybe people who struggle to socialize

27:48 Speaker 5: are choosing homeschooling, and so that's a skewed demographic because

27:52 Speaker 5: maybe they are struggling socially in school and so they're

27:55 Speaker 5: not learning, and so homeschooling might be the more appropriate

27:57 Speaker 5: choice for them, right to help them build tools. I

28:01 Speaker 5: would not say it's for everyone.

28:03 Speaker 6: It's yeah, I was gonna say, because you might in

28:05 Speaker 6: the grand scheme of things, you might be the exception

28:07 Speaker 6: not the rule.

28:08 Speaker 5: I you know, I've seen plenty. I've known plenty of

28:10 Speaker 5: people who homeschool who turned.

28:12 Speaker 6: Out just oh sure, me too, me too.

28:14 Speaker 5: Yeah, But I've also seen some people who maybe had

28:17 Speaker 5: some deficiencies in some subject areas because my parents didn't

28:19 Speaker 5: have the expertise to carry that through. But you know,

28:22 Speaker 5: I think there's a lot more tools online now. They

28:24 Speaker 5: are a lot more expressable for people to be able

28:26 Speaker 5: to make up for any particular deficiencies in their education

28:29 Speaker 5: if they're choosing to home educate their kids. But I

28:32 Speaker 5: am also at the same time, while my parents chose

28:35 Speaker 5: that for me, I'm a huge proponent of making sure

28:37 Speaker 5: we fund our schools adequately and make sure that's available

28:40 Speaker 5: for everyone, Yes, because a lot of parents are working

28:45 Speaker 5: two and three jobs and they're not able to.

28:47 Speaker 6: Homeschool, right. So well, that's the other part of it, too,

28:50 Speaker 6: is like how does anyone even afford it to be

28:52 Speaker 6: able to do it?

28:53 Speaker 5: You know, my mom didn't work or and then when

28:56 Speaker 5: she did work, she was self employed as a seamstress,

28:59 Speaker 5: and and she'd like make square dancing outfits. I remember,

29:03 Speaker 5: yeah really yeah, yeah, she's very good at sewing, so

29:08 Speaker 5: she made money that way. But yeah, my dad worked.

29:12 Speaker 5: You know, we lived in the military provided housing, and

29:16 Speaker 5: my mom my mom took time off of her engineering

29:19 Speaker 5: career to educates, and then yeah, we went on. We

29:21 Speaker 5: went onto small private schools. I did for middle school,

29:23 Speaker 5: and then I was in a very large public high school,

29:26 Speaker 5: which is why I have a six hundred and twenty

29:27 Speaker 5: five person graduating class. Yeah, so you know, I ran

29:31 Speaker 5: the gamut of the varieties of education out there.

29:34 Speaker 6: Well, so, now I'm curious, so when you went to

29:35 Speaker 6: that high school, was like, what was that like, because

29:38 Speaker 6: that's obviously a huge transition after all that homeschool.

29:41 Speaker 5: Yeah, fortunately I had this this smaller middle school in between.

29:44 Speaker 5: Oh okay, that that really helped.

29:47 Speaker 7: There was.

29:49 Speaker 5: I look, I'm strange, I'm weird. Okay, the homeschooling, I

29:54 Speaker 5: love you.

29:55 Speaker 6: I was gonna say, that's why we like you.

29:56 Speaker 5: Homeschooling probably allowed that to flourish. Yeah, And I have

30:00 Speaker 5: some social difficulties, yes, but who doesn't in middle school

30:04 Speaker 5: and high school. And for me, honestly, it came out

30:09 Speaker 5: of more. I'm a very black and white person, and

30:13 Speaker 5: I believe strongly in things that are right or wrong,

30:15 Speaker 5: and I will say them and stand up for them.

30:18 Speaker 5: And I look back on it now and maybe the

30:21 Speaker 5: people that were you know, I felt ostracized from I

30:24 Speaker 5: didn't really need to be friends with right so in

30:28 Speaker 5: the time, and didn't feel that way, but you.

30:31 Speaker 6: Get that, you get that with hindsight. But yeah, but

30:35 Speaker 6: at the time it's rough.

30:37 Speaker 5: Yes, And so you know, I was able to find

30:39 Speaker 5: my people in the arts community and and and and

30:42 Speaker 5: then science nerds too, so you know, I got through it.

30:47 Speaker 5: What else I don't know. I was very able to

30:50 Speaker 5: study on my own, so if I came across a

30:52 Speaker 5: teacher that wasn't great for me, I was able to

30:56 Speaker 5: get through it.

30:56 Speaker 10: When you entered were you in an advanced grade than

31:01 Speaker 10: were your class Were you in the same age bracket,

31:04 Speaker 10: is your classmates or were you advanced from them?

31:06 Speaker 5: Yes, I was in the same age bracket, and so yeah,

31:11 Speaker 5: school was easy for me. Yeah, school was ultimately easy

31:15 Speaker 5: for me, except for math. I struggled in math. And

31:18 Speaker 5: I think if I could go back in time, I know,

31:21 Speaker 5: I get I'd get like diagnosed with dyscalculia. Dyscalculia, which

31:25 Speaker 5: is like dyslexia but for numbers.

31:27 Speaker 6: Oh interesting, Yeah, I learned something because I didn't know that.

31:31 Speaker 6: I just always assumed that dyslexia covered both letter numbers.

31:35 Speaker 11: Yeah.

31:36 Speaker 5: Yeah, because I don't have any problems with letters. I'm

31:38 Speaker 5: an avid reader, fast reader even, Yeah, but the numbers

31:43 Speaker 5: just would move on the page. I would use bash

31:45 Speaker 5: paper and put each number on each square and try

31:48 Speaker 5: really hard to get through math that way, no kidding,

31:51 Speaker 5: And I could get the concepts, but then I could

31:52 Speaker 5: never just get the right answer. So I kept getting

31:54 Speaker 5: swapped into the advanced math class down to the regular

31:57 Speaker 5: math class to the advanced like, because I like, you

31:58 Speaker 5: get it, but you just can't make it happen on paper,

32:01 Speaker 5: you understand it. So math was always a challenge for me,

32:05 Speaker 5: and that really, you know, fed my understanding for un

32:09 Speaker 5: chartered because I'd see a lot of my friends who'd

32:12 Speaker 5: struggle in different subjects and be like, you're smart, why

32:14 Speaker 5: aren't you getting this? And ultimately, like when you presented

32:18 Speaker 5: it to them in a different way, like with the

32:19 Speaker 5: hands on learning method or related to a subject that

32:23 Speaker 5: they love, like art, they would get into it. They

32:27 Speaker 5: get excited by it, and I'd tutor my friends, you know,

32:30 Speaker 5: I'd help them out in class all the time. And

32:34 Speaker 5: when you look at my life as like a gamut,

32:36 Speaker 5: as a journey, it makes total sense with where I

32:38 Speaker 5: am today. But it's not where I thought i'd go.

32:42 Speaker 5: I'm thrilled, don't get me wrong. I love my life,

32:45 Speaker 5: but yeah, founding a company that teaches science and packages

32:49 Speaker 5: it to look like art and then turning it into

32:52 Speaker 5: a nonprofit so I'm sure that every kid can have

32:54 Speaker 5: access to it? Is it totally makes sense.

32:59 Speaker 6: If you're just joining us, we're talking with Amber Nicole Cannon.

33:02 Speaker 6: Am I saying your last name card?

33:03 Speaker 5: Absolutely?

33:04 Speaker 6: Okay, I just want to make sure it wasn't Cannon,

33:05 Speaker 6: and I'm just like blowing it. That's what I thought, Okay,

33:08 Speaker 6: because it's not spelled like people.

33:11 Speaker 5: It's C A N and a N. Yeah yeah, instead

33:15 Speaker 5: of oh And honestly, when I married into that name,

33:18 Speaker 5: I thought people would get it easier than they do.

33:20 Speaker 6: Oh no kidding, really yeah, yeah.

33:21 Speaker 5: That my my name before I got married with Suepan.

33:24 Speaker 5: So if you're into baseball, you might know the name

33:26 Speaker 5: s U P p A N. My dad's cousin was

33:30 Speaker 5: a picture for the Red Sox. Oh, okay, the Red

33:34 Speaker 5: Sox don't like him because he didn't do super well

33:37 Speaker 5: there and then he went on to the Cardinals and

33:39 Speaker 5: like whon the world?

33:40 Speaker 6: Oh really?

33:41 Speaker 5: Yeah he he looks like a Soupan like all the

33:43 Speaker 5: men in my family. Okay, definitely related. Yeah, but I

33:47 Speaker 5: thought that name was just annoying to have to tell

33:49 Speaker 5: people how to spell time. So I went to Canon

33:51 Speaker 5: thinking it would be easier because of the ah.

33:54 Speaker 6: I thought I can't win whatever.

33:59 Speaker 5: Yeah, fine, I'm I moved up in the alphabet.

34:01 Speaker 6: So that's that's true. That's true. Yeah. When yeah, people

34:07 Speaker 6: people struggle with my uh with my last name.

34:09 Speaker 5: People, I keep wanting to put a second C in it.

34:13 Speaker 5: That's what I always wanted to do because it canarton right.

34:17 Speaker 6: Well, so Canarton became my nickname in school because it's

34:21 Speaker 6: Connorton Conorton. But the first day of school, inevitably there

34:26 Speaker 6: would be or the first day of the semester, there

34:29 Speaker 6: would be teachers in high school who you know, they'd

34:31 Speaker 6: be doing roll calling. If they didn't already know me,

34:32 Speaker 6: they'd get to my name and they would be like

34:34 Speaker 6: Matthew Cannarton and so that kind of became my nickname

34:39 Speaker 6: in high school. Most of my friends called me that.

34:44 Speaker 6: But it's but there aren't many of us. There are

34:46 Speaker 6: not many Connortants. And you know, the the spelling that

34:50 Speaker 6: makes more sense c O n n E r t

34:52 Speaker 6: o n for how it makes more sense for out's pronounced.

34:55 Speaker 6: That's some more common spelling.

34:57 Speaker 5: Really, you have a special spelling as well.

34:59 Speaker 6: Yes, an A R t O n is very rare.

35:02 Speaker 6: There is another Matt Connorton right here in New Hampshire,

35:04 Speaker 6: but he's my uncle, so that kind of doesn't count sense.

35:06 Speaker 6: But yeah, but people struggle with my name. But the

35:09 Speaker 6: good news about that is like, if you know, like

35:12 Speaker 6: I'm not likely to run into a problem, you know,

35:14 Speaker 6: in terms of branding, like with the radio show.

35:17 Speaker 5: You know, yeah, that's great. You got to think about that.

35:20 Speaker 6: Like when I went to get Matt connorton dot com,

35:22 Speaker 6: it was very it was yeah, oh.

35:25 Speaker 5: You know that's that's well. And that's what they say too.

35:27 Speaker 5: That's why famous people sometimes name their kids very uniquely, right,

35:31 Speaker 5: because they want to make sure they have a brand.

35:33 Speaker 6: Right right, Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.

35:36 Speaker 5: So your parents were just watching out for you. Yeah,

35:38 Speaker 5: I guess they need be an entertainment.

35:43 Speaker 6: If you want to call it that.

35:44 Speaker 5: Sure, I'm entertained, so I'm chartered.

35:49 Speaker 6: So and so this has grown fast, right, because how long?

35:52 Speaker 6: How long is this? I wanted you started ten years ago.

35:54 Speaker 5: We've been doing it for eight years.

35:55 Speaker 6: Eight years? Okay.

35:57 Speaker 5: We had, of course that dip in during COO everyone

36:01 Speaker 5: no one wanted a traveling teacher. I get it. It

36:03 Speaker 5: makes sense. I support that choice.

36:05 Speaker 6: Were you able to get work arounded at all?

36:07 Speaker 5: Doing things a little bit? Yeah, And actually we ended

36:10 Speaker 5: up with like student clients in like Colorado and California

36:14 Speaker 5: and Alabamia like we were Virginia. It was it was

36:16 Speaker 5: kind of fun for that. It was not a money maker.

36:21 Speaker 5: We kept it going for consistency for people's lives. They

36:25 Speaker 5: needed that kind of connection for their kids in after

36:28 Speaker 5: school kind of activities. And we've been holding steady now

36:33 Speaker 5: for the last three years at about like ten employees,

36:36 Speaker 5: which is really great. Where we grew though last year

36:40 Speaker 5: by twenty percent by becoming a nonprofit because we were

36:42 Speaker 5: able to apply for and give away that entire twenty percent.

36:45 Speaker 5: So that's like one hundred students that had programs expanded.

36:49 Speaker 5: They would have only had four weeks before, but now

36:50 Speaker 5: they got eight weeks.

36:51 Speaker 6: Oh, that's great.

36:52 Speaker 5: And one hundred kids that got programming for eight weeks

36:57 Speaker 5: that wouldn't have at all before. So that's a huge

37:00 Speaker 5: amount of growth. Plus last summer we were able to

37:02 Speaker 5: give away like I think it was eleven summer camps

37:05 Speaker 5: through the New Hampshire Council and Developmental Disabilities Okay, they

37:08 Speaker 5: gave us funds to scholarship kids with five or four

37:12 Speaker 5: plans and i EPs to our summer camps, okay, and

37:15 Speaker 5: that that was a huge joy to just give away

37:18 Speaker 5: the summer camps entirely to this population. Oh, I can

37:21 Speaker 5: imagine and kids that sometimes you know, they need that

37:24 Speaker 5: smaller space to make sure their needs are addressed. And

37:28 Speaker 5: that's one of the things we focus on in our

37:29 Speaker 5: summer camps is keeping it to fifteen students at a

37:31 Speaker 5: time to make sure we get that one on one

37:33 Speaker 5: time with each student.

37:34 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's good.

37:36 Speaker 5: Super valuable and they the new Hampshire Council and Developmental

37:39 Speaker 5: Disabilities has also wanted me to make sure that everyone

37:41 Speaker 5: around the state knows that kids with i EPs and

37:44 Speaker 5: five or four plans in any summer camp can get

37:47 Speaker 5: a scholarship. And then includes our camps this year at

37:50 Speaker 5: the Sea Science Center.

37:51 Speaker 6: Oh yes, I'm familiar with the Sea Science Center.

37:53 Speaker 5: Yees, so that's where our summer camps are.

37:56 Speaker 6: Oh okay, excellent. You should probably too explain what an

37:59 Speaker 6: I is for people who don't know.

38:01 Speaker 5: That's a great idea. It's an individual education plan, okay,

38:05 Speaker 5: So if you learn differently than what they've decided is standard,

38:09 Speaker 5: maybe you need to make sure you always get notes

38:12 Speaker 5: from someone already written down from you. Maybe you need

38:14 Speaker 5: to get your book in an audio format because reading

38:18 Speaker 5: is a struggle, or you need to be able to

38:20 Speaker 5: have the opportunity to get up and walk around the

38:22 Speaker 5: classroom for whatever reason, because sitting is painful. That would

38:26 Speaker 5: go into an individual education plan. Some people need things

38:30 Speaker 5: like someone who assists them all day long. Like a

38:33 Speaker 5: one on one para and some people just need, you know,

38:37 Speaker 5: to be able to get up and move around the classroom.

38:39 Speaker 5: Make that simple. But the teachers need it to find

38:41 Speaker 5: so they make sure they are supporting you in the

38:43 Speaker 5: best way possible.

38:44 Speaker 6: Okay, gotcha, No, that that makes sense. That makes sense.

38:49 Speaker 6: What's kind of been? Is there anything that's really surprised

38:51 Speaker 6: you on this journey with unchartered? Is there anything that's

38:54 Speaker 6: really kind of you didn't expect? Oh, that's a good question,

38:59 Speaker 6: hopefully in a good way. Although you know, anything or

39:02 Speaker 6: maybe even even challenges that you didn't anticipate, So it

39:04 Speaker 6: could be something.

39:05 Speaker 5: I'll say, so the good thing. We'll go with the

39:09 Speaker 5: good one, and I'll talk about the challenge. Okay, the

39:11 Speaker 5: good one, Well is it good? I don't know. It's

39:12 Speaker 5: kind of neutral. I did not expect to have to

39:14 Speaker 5: put my face on social media this much, oh just

39:18 Speaker 5: a little. Like it turns out like as we follow

39:19 Speaker 5: our trends, like the videos that do the best on

39:22 Speaker 5: Instagram where I'm talking about our programs is with my face.

39:25 Speaker 5: Of all things, people want to see my face, which

39:26 Speaker 5: confuses me. And then the videos do ten percent better.

39:29 Speaker 5: Get this, videos do ten percent better if I wear

39:31 Speaker 5: false eyelashes.

39:33 Speaker 6: Interesting.

39:34 Speaker 5: Interesting, Yeah, so you know, will I do it?

39:37 Speaker 3: Yes?

39:37 Speaker 5: Am I a little sad by it? Yes, I'll do

39:40 Speaker 5: it to get the extra tension and get people. But

39:42 Speaker 5: our videos are great, apparently, I'm sometimes funny, so you

39:46 Speaker 5: know they're worth a watch.

39:48 Speaker 6: Well, you got those school glasses.

39:50 Speaker 5: I do like big glasses. Yeah, yeah, anything big and

39:54 Speaker 5: bold something that. Plus, when you put on glasses, people

39:56 Speaker 5: don't notice it if you didn't put on makeup, unless

39:58 Speaker 5: it's all lashes.

39:58 Speaker 6: Interesting apparently, and they assume, you know, there's a there's

40:02 Speaker 6: an authority with that.

40:03 Speaker 5: Right, I'm smart?

40:04 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm smart. Wasn't there a study that showed that

40:09 Speaker 6: there actually is? It's not just a stereotype. There actually is.

40:13 Speaker 6: People who are near sighted tend to be higher IQ.

40:16 Speaker 5: I want to say I heard that, but I can't

40:19 Speaker 5: verify it with a source.

40:20 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, and I may have just imagined it

40:23 Speaker 6: because I like it, because as you can see, I'm

40:25 Speaker 6: not I don't wear glasses, so it might just all

40:27 Speaker 6: be in my head.

40:28 Speaker 5: It could be. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a correlation,

40:31 Speaker 5: Like people who have glasses discovered they needed glasses because

40:37 Speaker 5: they were like either paying more attention to school and

40:39 Speaker 5: couldn't see the board or reading something at a distance

40:41 Speaker 5: because they liked there you go and so there.

40:44 Speaker 6: Yeah, that sounds like a reach. I'm not gonna lie.

40:46 Speaker 5: But well, you know, we don't want to. You know,

40:49 Speaker 5: causation is not correlation.

40:51 Speaker 6: That's right.

40:51 Speaker 5: Correlation is not causation, right, right. You know we should

40:54 Speaker 5: see the data. We should see the data.

40:57 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, but but yeah, but you're point about social media.

41:00 Speaker 6: It is so important with anything that you're doing. It's critical.

41:04 Speaker 5: Oh and then if I dress up as a whale shark,

41:06 Speaker 5: that really wins everything.

41:07 Speaker 6: Really Yeah, Okay.

41:09 Speaker 5: So I have a whale shark costume that I made. Yeah,

41:13 Speaker 5: it's a you know, whatever it takes to get science

41:16 Speaker 5: to yes, I'll do it. I will do it.

41:19 Speaker 9: Yea.

41:19 Speaker 5: As far as challenges, so this is an interesting one

41:23 Speaker 5: and it's all totally my fault.

41:24 Speaker 3: It's that.

41:26 Speaker 5: I like to do everything myself and I am learning

41:31 Speaker 5: and I usually have to learn the hard way to delegate, okay,

41:35 Speaker 5: and trust my team.

41:38 Speaker 6: That's a challenge for a lot of people in leadership positions.

41:41 Speaker 5: Yes, and teach them the skills they need to do

41:43 Speaker 5: what I'm doing and then they end up doing it

41:45 Speaker 5: better on Oh yeah, Like so I do the videos right,

41:49 Speaker 5: it's me recording them, but Emory does the writing and

41:52 Speaker 5: posting of them. Mel edits them for me. So I

41:55 Speaker 5: don't do any of that anymore, and it's doing better

41:58 Speaker 5: with letting them handle it. So and the thing that

42:02 Speaker 5: I always the thing that always pushes me to delegate

42:04 Speaker 5: when I really should have been delegating, like six months ago.

42:07 Speaker 5: I'm usually at least six months late delegating anything is

42:10 Speaker 5: like the fact that I have disabilities that keep me

42:12 Speaker 5: from doing things the way and how I want to

42:16 Speaker 5: do them. Yeah, and whether it's pain or because I

42:20 Speaker 5: need a surgery or whatever, or I'm not gonna be

42:23 Speaker 5: able to go in the classroom. That forced me. That

42:25 Speaker 5: was our first big gross spurt that forced me to

42:28 Speaker 5: rely on my teachers to totally handle everything. I wasn't

42:32 Speaker 5: in the classroom right and I was working on the

42:34 Speaker 5: business and we had giant growth. So like that's been

42:37 Speaker 5: my biggest surprise challenge. Side of things, I don't know,

42:43 Speaker 5: like the lesson is I should delegate sooner. Probably, I

42:47 Speaker 5: don't know what the lesson is for everyone else, Like

42:49 Speaker 5: I hope it teaches other people things. But that's been

42:54 Speaker 5: my challenge.

42:55 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, now that makes sense. That makes sense. I

43:00 Speaker 6: do want to circle back before we run out of

43:02 Speaker 6: time too, about talking about disabilities, because I know that

43:07 Speaker 6: Jenny had to go answer the doorbell. I know, I

43:09 Speaker 6: know the doorbell does show up in the audio, so

43:11 Speaker 6: people hear it. It's kind of become a joke, a

43:14 Speaker 6: running a gag on the show. But because she tells

43:16 Speaker 6: everyone in the instructions, don't ring the doorbell, and then

43:18 Speaker 6: they ring the doorbell. No, it's fine. But so you

43:24 Speaker 6: were talking about how it's people have a misconception if

43:30 Speaker 6: they can't and I'm sure we're probably all guilty of

43:33 Speaker 6: it at one point or another, if a disability isn't

43:37 Speaker 6: necessarily easily visible, and so part of the struggle, because

43:41 Speaker 6: Jenny talks about this a lot, part of the struggle

43:44 Speaker 6: is that if someone doesn't see, if they can't see

43:47 Speaker 6: your disability, they assume that you don't have one. So

43:52 Speaker 6: maybe if you say you have a handicapp placard in

43:54 Speaker 6: your car, then you park your car and they see

43:57 Speaker 6: you get out and you look like you're fine, you

43:59 Speaker 6: know they might be thinking, and they might or if

44:02 Speaker 6: they're even rude enough to say it, you know, but

44:05 Speaker 6: they might take that as, oh, she's fine, why does

44:09 Speaker 6: she why does she have to take that space? Why

44:11 Speaker 6: does she have that that placard? And you know, because

44:14 Speaker 6: we were talking earlier to JENNI use the word educate.

44:17 Speaker 6: How do you educate people? Like, you know, like when

44:19 Speaker 6: when people park in a handicap spot when they shouldn't

44:22 Speaker 6: because they have no right to be there because they

44:24 Speaker 6: don't have a placard. I mean, how do you I mean,

44:28 Speaker 6: is that something you've run into, specifically yourself, where people

44:32 Speaker 6: don't understand that just because it's not something they can see,

44:34 Speaker 6: that doesn't mean it's not there.

44:36 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have quite uh in different ways, but I

44:40 Speaker 5: and I think educate is this is the solid word

44:43 Speaker 5: there and but I also think it's representation and that

44:48 Speaker 5: so we need to be sure that we're reaching out

44:50 Speaker 5: and accommodating people so that they can be in spaces

44:54 Speaker 5: two help us understand how normal disability is. Right, So

45:00 Speaker 5: like I don't see a lot of teachers with disabilities,

45:04 Speaker 5: but we should have teachers with disabilities. But of course,

45:09 Speaker 5: teaching is a very hard job, stressful job, one that

45:12 Speaker 5: does not allow for a lot of doctor's appointments, admittedly.

45:15 Speaker 6: But then again, to be fair, you might even see

45:16 Speaker 6: more teachers with disabilities than you realize.

45:18 Speaker 5: It's true because you don't see them. So there's something

45:22 Speaker 5: about being open about a disability too. Now I am

45:25 Speaker 5: in a situation where being open about my disability is

45:28 Speaker 5: very unlikely to get me discriminated against in an employment fact,

45:32 Speaker 5: you know, in an unemployment way. Yeah, because I'm I

45:38 Speaker 5: found it a nonprofit that I am running, So you know,

45:41 Speaker 5: no one's gonna not hire me because I require accommodations.

45:44 Speaker 5: I get to make the accommodations in my office. But

45:48 Speaker 5: there's a lot of people that don't feel like they

45:51 Speaker 5: can talk about their disabilities because then maybe they won't

45:54 Speaker 5: get hired for a job that they really really want.

45:58 Speaker 6: And that's that's that sucks, man, Yeah.

46:02 Speaker 5: That really sucks. Because so I can be really open

46:04 Speaker 5: about you know, like my idiopathic hypersomnia and the pain

46:07 Speaker 5: that I'm constantly in, or that I need a special chair,

46:10 Speaker 5: or if you see me at city meetings, I bring

46:12 Speaker 5: in my own camp chair and I sit in that.

46:14 Speaker 5: Because he knows those metal folding chairs are awful on

46:16 Speaker 5: someone's back. Oh yeah, so like we need to be

46:20 Speaker 5: able to provide space to people to genuinely be themselves

46:24 Speaker 5: and accommodate themselves. Right, You'll find most people with disabilities,

46:28 Speaker 5: they don't want to ask for help. They want it

46:30 Speaker 5: to just either be there or carry their own accommodations

46:33 Speaker 5: like me carrying my chair in right. And the only

46:37 Speaker 5: time they're asking for it is when they really do

46:40 Speaker 5: actually need it, they really do. It's not because they

46:44 Speaker 5: want to make.

46:44 Speaker 6: Work for someone else, of course, of course.

46:46 Speaker 5: They just want to be able to go on about

46:48 Speaker 5: their day and access to things that make them comfortable

46:51 Speaker 5: or healthy or enjoy life a little. It's so sad

46:56 Speaker 5: that people can't be as open about disability as as

47:01 Speaker 5: as we should be able to.

47:02 Speaker 6: Right, well, grade agreed, Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, well so uh

47:08 Speaker 6: as we as we near the end of the segment. So,

47:11 Speaker 6: of course, if you are just joining us, we have

47:13 Speaker 6: Amber Nicole Cannon here with us in studio. She is

47:15 Speaker 6: the commissioner, the commissioner of what's.

47:17 Speaker 5: The Department of Public Works, It's true.

47:20 Speaker 6: The Department of Public Works, yes, and of course the

47:23 Speaker 6: founder what do we call what do you call yourself?

47:25 Speaker 6: The founder the CEO of.

47:26 Speaker 5: Our founder executive director. It doesn't really matter. I just

47:29 Speaker 5: got to get the job done. Yeah, Charged chart.

47:32 Speaker 7: And the board of directors the Seaside.

47:35 Speaker 5: Yes, I am on the board of directors at the

47:37 Speaker 5: Sea Science Center. Oh great, And that is that is

47:39 Speaker 5: one of my most exciting things I'm working on right

47:41 Speaker 5: now is our summer camps are hosted at the Sea

47:43 Speaker 5: Science Center.

47:44 Speaker 6: Oh okay.

47:45 Speaker 5: And and it's a it's an interesting thing too. It's

47:47 Speaker 5: not just that they're hosting our summer camps, which you

47:49 Speaker 5: can get scholarships through if you have a disability, by

47:51 Speaker 5: the way, reach out to me. But also we encountered

47:55 Speaker 5: like the same problem or same coin, different side problem

48:00 Speaker 5: where they have to hire seasonal workers for their summer camps.

48:04 Speaker 5: And I have teachers that are super employed during the

48:06 Speaker 5: school year, but their hours go down in the summer.

48:09 Speaker 5: So not only are we hosting all our summer camps

48:11 Speaker 5: at the Sea Science Center, we're staffing all of their camps.

48:15 Speaker 6: Okay, okay.

48:16 Speaker 5: So if you're going to a c Science Center camp,

48:18 Speaker 5: you're going to get the wonderful, caring, loving, supportive individuals

48:24 Speaker 5: that work for Chartered helping your student through their day.

48:27 Speaker 6: Oh, that's awesome. Now I'm I'm I'm at the Sea

48:30 Speaker 6: Science Center usually a couple of times a week. I'll

48:32 Speaker 6: I'll tell you off air why why I'm a frequent

48:36 Speaker 6: visitor there actually with something else I do, uh employment wise,

48:40 Speaker 6: but but uh yeah, so that's that's wonderful, excellent, excellent

48:46 Speaker 6: uncharted Where should people go online?

48:47 Speaker 5: To uh uncharted dot org? You got to check that

48:50 Speaker 5: it's it's that W E R E. D car heard

48:56 Speaker 5: dot org. You can also follow us on Instagram and Facebook.

48:59 Speaker 5: That's where I spell the videos I'm talking about our

49:02 Speaker 5: latest move and just the hygienks weea get up to.

49:05 Speaker 6: Okay, outstanding, and also to just generally, where should people

49:08 Speaker 6: go online to keep up with everything that you're everything

49:10 Speaker 6: that you're doing, not just unchartered.

49:11 Speaker 5: But yeah, so my my my my personal art page

49:15 Speaker 5: is bioside creative okay dot com. And I'm also on

49:19 Speaker 5: that at Instagram. I don't post as much there, but

49:21 Speaker 5: when when I'm doing a gallery show or making a

49:25 Speaker 5: piece of art, that's where I'm posting it.

49:27 Speaker 6: Outstanding, outstanding And do you want to spell your last name?

49:30 Speaker 6: For people who can't.

49:31 Speaker 5: Canon C A and then A N. Yes, there's no oh,

49:35 Speaker 5: there's no.

49:36 Speaker 3: Oh.

49:36 Speaker 5: That's what I say when I call the doctor's office

49:38 Speaker 5: because they always write a note and I'm like, no,

49:40 Speaker 5: that's why you can't find me.

49:42 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, very good. Well, Amber, Nicole Cannon, thank you

49:45 Speaker 6: so much. This has been wonderful.

49:47 Speaker 5: I'm so happy to have come today.

49:48 Speaker 7: Yeah.

49:48 Speaker 6: Absolutely. Oh this happened because we ran in you at

49:51 Speaker 6: It was at mosic Ran, a mosaic art collective that.

49:55 Speaker 5: Was the social scene it is.

49:56 Speaker 6: It is wonderful.

49:58 Speaker 7: I love that place.

49:59 Speaker 6: All right, Well, very good. Well, if you are listening live,

50:01 Speaker 6: please stick around. Coming up in the third hour, we

50:03 Speaker 6: have Who I Am and trax Is h is here

50:06 Speaker 6: as well as Very Good, so they will be in

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50:12 Speaker 6: I'm gonna play another, I'm gonna play this again. We

50:14 Speaker 6: played it in the first hour. But this is my

50:16 Speaker 6: favorite track from Jah Wobble, who joined us in the

50:19 Speaker 6: in the first hour. Eventually we were able to get

50:21 Speaker 6: him on the line he's got UH, He's got his

50:24 Speaker 6: new album and this is UH. This is one of

50:26 Speaker 6: the tracks on it. This is my personal favorite. This

50:28 Speaker 6: is called who Wins and UH. When we come back.

50:31 Speaker 6: We'll show some love to our amazing sponsors, and then

50:33 Speaker 6: we will have Who I Am and tracks in studio

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