Matt Connarton Unleashed 5-1-23

0:00 But I don't know it. Wow, Windows Gata, Welcome everybody here, we go Happy Monday. It is Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast ninety seven in Manchester. And hello to all of our online listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact in Folk show archives, etcetera, etcetera.

1:12 Today is Monday, May one, twenty twenty three, and I'm not alone. Best Jenny is here at the news desk. Hello with her crown, her tiara, my crown. Thank you very much. Yes, yes, and where where did that come from? Again? This came from half Lucid Jewelry. Would you can check out at half lucid Jewelry dot com. Yes, and I say that because not they're not sponsors, but I love, love, love this work. You have to go check her out, her jewelry, her handcrafted jewelry. Kendra Saunders is a very crip Kendra Els, Kendra al Sanders Forgive Me is a very talented individual.

2:04 She makes earrings and all kinds of necklaces and of course lovely crowns. She's also a published author, Yes, yeah, and she's been on the show many times over the years. I actually met her because of her author yea authorship, that's right, she'd say, yes, I am suporting my Lucid Dreams crown. It's a perfect week for it. Why is that because across the ponds getting his crown this weekend? Oh I forgot about that. Didn't that already happen? No, not much of an anglophile. I don't pay that much attention to avoid it.

2:37 It's like at nauseum in the news. Yeah, I don't know. So now he'll officially be the king. He's not. He's not officially King Charles until that happens. He's officially King Charles. But something about the crowning and then the people are supposed to pledge their allegiance. Oh gosh, yeah. I think they treat people through in front of him, going oh you support I crown, my my swear, my allegiance to use it, and they like go through one at a time, and I think there's some swords and stuff. Oh swords, Yeah, I know.

3:09 They stick a tent over his head when he annoint him a tent. Yeah, he can't see that part, I guess. Wow, when he comes out, he's like and like when he comes out from yes for real, and then like when he comes out of the tent um judy, isn't they call it a Hoopah? Yeah, I think that's they say it. It's the uh, it's for weddings. But in this case, like they seriously do they put this like tarp over him on poles over his head while he's in the special chair. It's like the thousand year old special chair, which on close look was really kind of gross and peture.

3:46 Yeah, but then they bless him or something like God's finger comes down and anoints his forehead. So when he comes out, God's actual finger comes down inside the tent special anointing. Wow. So he is officially the head of the Church of England. Wow. Yes, anointed by God. Yes, under a tent, under a tent some oils or something. Wow, incense. I think they throw incense at him. Oh really, they shoot it at him, you know, like Catholics do choose the little thing even Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow for those who can't see me moving my arm.

4:21 Yeah. Great radio, Jenny, great radio. Yeah. Well, no, I know what you mean. You know, I was raised Catholic kind of what you mean with the thing. But it's not the Catholic Church though, right, Protestants, the Church of England. So yeah, they're they're Protestants, right, Yeah, yeah, I think that's how that works. Wow, but I guess it takes a long time. Oh really, what a long time? And he's in the tent. No, No, that part I think is fairly quick. I think after the tent thing is when he comes, they give him the orb and the and the orb.

4:53 There's an orb. There's a crowned orb that goes in one hand and the other hand is like accepter and he's got to like hold them with this like fifty pound crown on his head and walk down holding them. Oh yeah, medievalism right up front. Listen, everybody, this this is why we fought the Revolutionary War because orbs and scepters and tents and God's finger and the thing that you shake at the incense and whatever. This is this is why, this is why we had to break away. This is the real reason This is what they won't teach you in school.

5:32 They in school. See they in school, they don't teach you. You know, they teach you about the Revolutionary War, but they don't teach you the real reason. So not to It was about taxes on tea. No, that's a cover that's a cover story. See that's what the oh you mean to see illuminati. That's what these these schools, these these these public schools with their liberal teachers, they teach you it was about that. No, here's here's what it really was about. It was about orbs and scepters and swords and tents and God's finger.

6:02 That's what it was really about. Yes, well that too, that's what it was really about it and that's why that's why we had to break away. And I'm glad we did. I'll tell you, I'll tell you what na clombs going here? No sorry, no no, no a dream of chrone. No orbs, no scepters, no swords, no God's finger in the tent. Uh, none of that. We shan't have that here because this is America. But yes, well there you go. Well that's very exciting. So that's this week. Yeah, this week's fifth Okay, not right. Well that's that's every freaking news channel every few minutes is more on that.

6:46 How many times they can say the same thing sixteen different ways. I don't know how I've escaped it, but I've escaped it. I haven't spent a lot of time flipping between news channels because they stopped talking about the news and started giving me orbs and scepters and so my Yeah, well, I mean I can say some's going to come back and it might be twenty four hours that he's in state. And seriously, I've heard too much of this today. Wow. I literally have flipped stations numerous times. Yeah. I usually listen to a lot of news from around yea, the world anyway.

7:15 Yeah, the globe, Yes, I guess that's the one. They hand him a little or globe. Oh, they hand him an actual orb. That means he's like metaphorically holding up the earth. Well, I was gonna say, I see when I when I think of orbs, I think of you know, you take a picture and you see a little sprinkles of light in the picture afterwards, which doesn't seem to happen with cell phone cameras, only with

7:41 yeah, traditional photography. Um, now that you mentioned it there, Yeah, you ever notice that? Yeah? I actually no, that's not true. Really nope. I got orbs on film on my camera phone and it's actually on my Facebook page from a long time ago Salem trip. Oh you were we were at the cemetery, oh, or all the which people were buried? Huh? And we took pictures and there were orbits there were and these were cameras. Really yep. Wow, m that's a song, isn't it. Woke up this morning there were orbs in my camera?

8:16 Orbs in my camera? Isn't that a song? No? It's Scarle Simon right. No, who do you think that's really about orbs in my camera? I don't think she ever revealed his No, No, I don't know. I you know, I'm I have a terrible head injury. Um so I could be I could be wrong U six Z three two five six seven. The studio line is open six zo three two five h six h seven. You can also text us at six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt at matt Connerton dot com.

8:47 And of course you can interact Undo Pine in the Facebook live chat and we will say hello everybody there in there in a moment. Melanie is already making comments that I can't read on the air, but I will seriously, there's something wrong with but I really wish, wish that I could, oh boy, see things I never think about getting my parents. But six O three, two five or six O seven is a studio line. If you would like to join us live on the show, we should mention two. The week coming up, we have Abner two.

9:16 Is it Abner two or Abner the second coming in tomorrow? Now that you said that, I think at Abner two it's Abner two. Will be our musical guests dot tomorrow afternoon. If I'm wrong tomorrow we're actually recommended by by Slim volume. Ah, very good, very good, yep, So I look forward to that. They will be here live in studio tomorrow. Wednesday, we have Factory of Art and they are from are they from another country? They are they are from Germany. So they'll be skyping in obviously skyping in it'll be about eleven o'clock their time, and then skyping in at five o'clock our time.

9:50 And then Thursday we have Kevin Hammer, who's going to be either skyping or calling skyping skyping. He is. He came to us through our friend Billy p and interesting guy he's he's a Republican from New York State and from what Billy told us, he's a walk away from the Democratic Party, used to be a Democrat. Apparently he's gay but so, which is interesting because there's a lot of anti LGBTQ stuff going on these days on the party that he walked away too. So so I don't know that'll be interesting. He sounds like an interesting guest, but he also apparently is someone who really likes to speak with someone who speak with people he doesn't necessarily agree with, and likes to have a productive and intellectual discussions instead of existing in an echo chamber.

10:42 And I'm always down to talk to people like that because that's difficult to find and it's a wonderful thing when we find it. So it is. And of course also on Friday, we'll have Eric Pilter's Classic film review and our old friend Truth is going to be calling in you know, yes with a brand new release, brand new release world radio premiere. I think yes, I do believe we are getting the premiere. Yes, yes, he does remember us. Yes, we are one of his favorites. Absolutely. Yes, this is truth. That's a sweatshirt I wear often with the semicolon on it.

11:17 He does a lot of work in the area of preventing suicides. Talking about our mental well being. Yep, but you know you said something before. You know who I have that rapport with is Heather. Heather Stockwell. Her and I, oh wait, she's coming out. I forgot she maybe coming in. She's a maybe for four o'clock on Wednesday. Okay, there might be something getting in the way, but she's gonna let me know. But her and I have had some really awesome conversations, you know, and on things that we agree, boy, you know, we just bolster each other right up.

11:48 But on the things that we have disagreed and that we do vehemently, we both fear are very strong women in our in our positions, we do so with the utmost respect for one another, and we always like, never get it, it never goes that far. We respect each other's endpoint that I'm not going to change her, she's not going to change me. But we've had that healthy dialogue and I really enjoy having those conversations with her. So okay, so she's a maybe for Wednesday. Yeah, she's gotcha, gotcha all of that, that's what you get out of it.

12:19 Huh, what she's a maybe for Wednesday? Yeah, she's maybe for Wednesday. Yeah. I was referring more to her having the wonderful conversations with people. Yes, oh my, where are you today? Well, No, I was going to while we were mentioning that, I was going to say, did you want to update us on the petition? Because that that involves her? It does actually absolutely how the Stockwell is a force to be reckoned what she is always working and from what I've seen, I don't I don't know whish she finds time for herself to be honest because she's always doing these things.

12:56 She's actually the reason that I am in the position that I'm in now with this now national campaign. And it was she had an event over at the Hopknot for New Hampshire Rights and Democracy and I just loved everything that they did and we had great dialogue and everything, and that's how I met the people from People's Action, who are an umbrella group. Basically there's about forty or so national organizations a part of them, and all of these people have joined forces together to get behind me and try and get United Healthcare to pay for the care that I need to live.

13:33 In the face of them reporting eight point one billion dollars in first quarter profits in three months, they've made more than you know, you or I are going to see it I don't know how many lifetimes. So it's hard when you know they're not covering things that you're paying through the nose for right,

13:52 I'm really amazed by the work that these people have done and what they've done to support people in my community and really getting the word out that complex regional pain system syndrome is very real and very deadly to people who get it, and small fib ineropathy is no picnic and we deserve to be treated. And with their help and with some help of some experts in this that have taught me things, we've actually gotten a huge win that I didn't think was ever going to happen. They have officially agreed to pay for my chatamin infusion for the treatment of CRPS and small five ineropathy.

14:32 And that's that's outstanding, that's um and I know that that's because of all the efforts of all these people and all that work that's going on right now. We've got about a little over thirty nine hundred signatures on the petition. We're still collecting it, we're still talking about it. We cannot let the story go silent. What my hope is that is to be that you know, that that first one that gets those codes issued and then we get to use them for everybody else, because they can't say yes to me and not to somebody else.

15:01 And it is literally approved for the treatment of CRPS. In my prior authorization, we literally explained the disease and noted that it is called the suicide disease, noted that it has zero approved treatments anywhere. So if you're waiting for an improved treatment to then cover me, it's not going to happen. We haven't gotten anything approved. And this disease was discovered over two hundred years ago, so that excuse for not covering was pushed out and the United Healthcare had to take a serious look at what is wrong with my body and what it takes to keep me alive and functional on a daily basis.

15:36 So we've won that, and that's, like I said, that's huge, and that's going to be super beneficial to my community. We have not one in some other instances. You know, for instance, I didn't know this Medicare. Medicare products do not cover compression for venus and sufficiency in the legs unless you have an ulcer, which is a sore, so rather than covering it prior to and preventatively, they only allow coverage for compression if you got the sore. That's a federal change we need to make. That's something that's going to take the work of all of us to push for.

16:12 We shouldn't be waiting for somebody to have an open wound to treat them. We should do it beforehand. Compression for my upper body for my lymphidima arm in hand has been approved. Working right now with the insurance company to find a supplier that we can order from, and I am going to start getting compression for that for the first time ever. All of these things started in twenty thirteen. We are now in twenty twenty three, and it has taken all this time, and I'm finally going to have insurance coverage for some of the more serious things that are wrong with me, that are wrong with so many others out there, and I understand now why so many people don't do this, And I don't know that I could have done it without help.

16:55 I've spent hours on the phone, literally hours. I last Friday's call was about two and a half hours, three hours long to get through this process, to do all of these appeals and prior authorization requests, and it's it's daunting, it's exhausting. Yeah, Like I said, I don't think I would have been able to go through all of this without having some support and knowing that there are people out there willing to help and jump in if I do get stuck. So I have a question, So, how does it work legally once you're approved?

17:27 Does that mean that they can't say no to other people too? Not that I'm aware of, no, but I think it makes it harder for them to do so. Can't cover it in one patient and not another. Well, that's what I mean. Those they're a legal component to that or are you just talking principally. I think the component mostly is going to be an educational one to try and then take this information. Now, this is one health insurance company. Yeah, there are people out there with Blue Cross, Blue Shield and they have got you know, Pilgrim Health and all these other ethno signa insurance companies that don't cover us.

18:00 My win with United Healthcare opens the door, but we need to really push everybody through. There's somewhere around one hundred and ninety thousand people in the United States that have CRPS. But that's one disease that ketamine infusions have been shown to treat. High dose ketamine infusions are being used to treat all other rare diseases like small fiber neuropathy. There are people that are benefiting from this and not having And here's the kicker. You don't have to be on opioids in our conducts when you get this treatment right, you can.

18:31 You know, for a lot of people, for myself included, it was to get it got you off that because instead of covering up your symptoms, it's actually treating your symptoms, decreasing the inflammation and the pain. That's a good thing to clarify for people too. Yes, you know, it's a treatment. It's not something that you you then go on no, no, no, this is well it is and this is why it's very hard to find a provider actually doing the treatment. No it's difficult. It's on a medication that it's not something you're taking everybody.

19:00 It's not that, because I do sense that people kind of misunderstand that part of it. No, that's a good point. I'm glad you raised that it's an infusion, that's it causes it's used. I'm sorry, I got a little tum twisted. They start an IV on me, and they give me a lot of supportive medications that are to keep me sedated so I don't wake up and feel the medication, medications to keep my blood pressure and checked. They have to monitor me on equipment and it takes about four hours for the infusion to fully run.

19:28 And then I'm I'm wasted for the day. Like I can't function, My brain doesn't functions. A lot of times I end up puking. It's just you know, the side effects of it. But it has to be done in with the doctor. It has to be why you're monitored. They can't, you know, just sticky in a corner and forget about you. They have to check on you, you know. Basically they I think they do like fifteen minute vital cycle, vital sign logins. Yeah, and it's not something that can be done at home like other infusions.

19:57 Like you know, I had an infusion nurse with my port. If we had gone to giving me IVG, that could have been home infused. But the thing about ketamine infusions is that it is a sedative. It does have higher risk factors for you know, sedating you too much and causing respiratory to depression, depression or not, you know, messing up, messing your heart up, or dropping your pressure. So it requires more monitoring and it really requires a doctor in the building in the very least. Yeah, so that it's not considered.

20:32 Insurance companies basically use it as an excuse because it's not proved by the FDA for this treatment. They use that as an excuse to not cover it. They also use as an excuse. And this is where I argue with them on ketamine, as they argue it's an off label usage, and I argue that that is absolutely bull And the reason I say that as us ketamine is prescribed to be used for sedation. Ketamine is prescribed to be used for pain. It is on ambulances and can be used for pain. It can be used to sedate somebody on an ambulance.

21:09 It is used in the emergency department oftentimes with children who need a joint reset, have broken something, you know, and they're resetting it. So sedation and pain are absolutely on label reasons for giving this medication, but they call it off label because it's not specified for CRPS. But nothing is specified for CRPS, literally nothing. YEA. Getting the insurance company to cover my infusions opens the door for other patients to get their infusions covered. We can talk to about what kind of language to use, how to present your case.

21:44 A lot of it is how you present yourself when it comes to the insurance companies. That I'm learning more about this as I go along, because this is an area that is not my expertise. But what is an area that I can draw from is my medical career. So the language that I'm able to use or to pull up. And I'm a writer, so as I've gone through this process, I've learned how to kind of word things and how to paint the picture for them so they can understand what's going on with me. It's not good enough to say you're in pain.

22:13 What you need to do is describe that you feel like you're on fire. It wrapped in Bob wire and somebody's shoving shards a glass under your feet because that's what it feels like. They need to understand what you're actually You can't just say pain, so, you know, much like we do in ems, you paint the picture for the hospital as you're coming in to tell them what they're getting. It's up to you to tell that, you know, tell them all the tools they need, so when you arrive there, you know, if there's a cardiologists needed, they're write down there.

22:41 Same thing with these insurance companies. You have to paint that picture and tell them what you're going through, what could happen without treatment, And in my instance with the Kademy infusions, I'm much like a lot of patients out there, most patients out there. I have paid for this one hundred percent out of my pocket all these years, and the only reason and I sit here is because I've done it myself. Finally getting the insurance company to do their job and cover the treatments that I mean, keeping me alive shouldn't have taken this long, but it should be.

23:10 It should open the door for more people to get coverage and more people to get access. I think that's the wost heartbreaking thing when you talk to people who have these diseases and can benefit by this treatment and the only thing is they can't access it because they can't afford the treatment. They don't have the ability to sell off everything, you know, they don't have the ability to borrow or have people gift you money or whatever it is so you can get into the treatment. They're stuck without it.

23:39 And the only way they're going to get a chance at getting out of that bed and getting better is going to be for insurance companies to stop up and pay for these life saving infusions. Yeah, all right, well that's all positive, then that's good. Yeah, I'm really pleased with how it's going. And I will say that the United Healthcare worker that it's been working with me has actually been really good. Yeah. I felt like that person was going to be an adversary, but they're actually listening and learning about what I'm going through, and they're actually helping me go through these process without feeling so stressed out or feeling like I have to win or something over them.

24:16 I don't have to win over them, right, you know. That's been a huge learner for me too. Yeah. Yeah, excellent, excellent, all right, m and then if Heather, if Heather does come on Wednesday, she can tell us more too about you know, because she's been involved in the process with this. Oh yeah, wow, absolutely Is that the interview you did with I just remember this too. I've been meaning to ask you, but I'll ask you here because this is a oh I think I know you get ask me. Yeah, the interview you did with or he interviewed you at Opperman on the Opperman Report.

24:49 Is that available yet? I don't know that I'm aware of. I don't think that's available just yet. And it's a new article that I got a notice from the editor from the Mighty Yeah. Also talking about having to buy your way into healthcare. That should be coming out probably within the next couple of weeks. Excellent, well, very good, very good. All right, Well, if you'd like to join us on the program six three two five six seven, the studio line is open six three two five six seven. We'll go ahead and say hello everybody in the Facebook live chat.

25:23 Let's see Jenny, I see you're in there. Rabbits, Rabbit, rabbits. That's what you're supposed to say. Why the first day of the month. It's good luck in England. I didn't rabbits rat. I didn't know that. Yeah, okay, yeah, no idea. Yeah. Jay Fed joins us and says good afternoon Melanie. Of course, as I mentioned, is in the Facebook live chat. Yes, she had a very specific question about a half lucid jewelry, a specific item she's looking for for her Mother's day, but for her mom. Yes, yeah, no, very nice.

25:56 I love you. I don't think Kendrew makes us. EASYG also joins us, whereof EASYG joins us in the Facebook laugh out and says happy May Day. Good to see you, buddy. I know you've been under the weather for a couple of days to days May first has he? Yeah, well you know what I think is going on there? Uh that. Look, I'm not a medical doctor, boy, and uh, of course I haven't seen EASYG in person. So even if I was a medical doctor, I'm not. You know, I'm certainly not qualified to to make any assessments or diagnoses.

26:28 No, you're not. But I will just say this. I'm just gonna throw this out there, and I want easy if you're if you're still listening, I want you to really consider this. Um. I think that uh I think that Bruce is slowly poisoning. That's what you're going to do. I think Bruce has been poisoning him. I'm sorry, Eric, I tried. And I think because you know, you know how I feel about Bruce. I don't trust him. And I think that Bruce is UH after Easyg's vast fortune because you know, we all know, because you know, he's got that fanny pack, and I think there might be a gold bar in there or something.

27:05 So I think Bruce thinks he's going to he's going to inherit Easyg's fanny pack. So he's been poisoning in him. And I would just say, I would just say keep an eye on him. I wouldn't actually Easyg. I wouldn't actually confront Bruce directly. I think that could be very dangerous, but i'd keep an eye on him. My dad is in the chat room and says, good show, guys, I have too ready to go upstairs. Sometimes in the Facebook live chat, my dad talks like he's from Greensboro, North Carolina. Have you I think they've been in the UH.

27:39 They also show up, of course, in our chat room on Friday nights for Retrospectrum Radio. I noticed that. Yes, they're very enthusiastic about retrospect Oh, while we're at it too, we should give that a quick plug before we get into some some stuff. Because Paul Paul See, of course from Retrospectrum Radio did post earlier what the theme will be for this Friday night. Um. Sometimes he doesn't decide until later in the week, but he already he's already got this one figured out. He posted Friday night on Retrospectrum Radio, It's time to test your musical agility once again.

28:16 Agility, Um, I think he means acuity. Uh, WHOA your quickness? You want your brain to be quick like a rabbit. It's all about the rabbit today, I guess I think yeah, I think quick action, you know, mental gymnas. I don't think that's what he thinks is. We'll play twenty five songs that all have something in common. Let's see how smart you are. The fun starts at a pm Eastern. Do join us and that will be of course, uh, this Friday night from eight to eleven PM. Of course, I have the honor and privilege of being one of Paul's co hosts on that show along with DJ Steve, and I believe finally this Friday, the return of Mike from Queen City Cabinetry.

29:03 Queen City Cabinetry one of our great sponsors here at WMH ninety five point three, but also Mike is one of Paul's co hosts on Retrospectrum Radio. He joined us for a couple of episodes and then he got horribly injured, and uh, he's finally, he says, come hell or high water. He will be making his return this Friday night to Retrospectrum Radio with policy. So we uh we look forward to that. I'm great. I think that's awesome. Finally, back, Jay Fed says, does anyone ever win those contests? The last one Paul did?

29:37 I guessed it correctly. I guess them correctly. Yeah, yeah, usually usually Well, speaking of music, so I'm very interested in this, uh, this lawsuit, this uh ed Sharon being sued by the estate of Marvin Gay. I have some feelings about this. And part of why this is so interesting to me is, of course, you know my own background in the music industry, and you know, I've I've written a lot of songs, and uh, I've been in a lot of bands, and I don't know if you knew that Melanie in the chat room. I've been in some bands, but no, this kind of thing.

30:11 Been in some bands, have yeah, I have, I don't know. I don't know if you knew that. Yes, I've been in one hundred and seventy four different bands. Right, so, uh so this is, uh, this is particularly interesting to me, and of course I'm also it's interesting to me in another way too. I've always said, you know, if I had gone to law school, if I had been that, if if that had been my my calling, I would probably want to specialize in something like a copyright or trademark law, you know, intellectual property, that kind of thing.

30:42 I'd probably be an entertainment lawyer. In other words, because I find these, uh, these matters particular particularly interesting. But this is if you haven't been following this now, there's an update here from CNBC dot com ed Sharon oh And coincidentally, when Peter Pappas was here with us on Thursday with which was great. By the way, if you missed it, please go back and listen. We do archive all the shows at WMNH Radio dot org. When Peter Pappas was here, most of the songs that he played that day were of classic artists like Neil Young and Paul Simon and so forth.

31:12 But but he did do an Ed Sheeran song. He wanted to do something modern. Um, so I loved everything he did. Oh great voice, yeah, very very talented. And he did the thing too where he plays the harmonica while he's playing the guitar, you know, while he's singing, which is back and forth between the three. Well, the thing is what impresses me about that is, so if you're singing, if you're playing guitar and you you're doing the harmonica with the whatever that contraption is that holds the harmonica in place, you're literally playing two instruments at once.

31:41 I think it's just the harmonica hold. Pretty impressive. I don't know he didn't know what it was called. I didn't know what it was called, harmonica holder. It's gotta gotta have a fancier name than that, like maybe not like, I don't know what it could be. But anyway, that's impressive to me. He did do an Ed Sheeran song. I don't remember which one it was, but so Ed Shearon is being sued for allegedly copying Marvin Gay. Here's where the trial stands. I don't remember. I can't remember what Melanie said in the chat room, like a Stormy Daniels kind of entertainment lawyer.

32:19 No, I wouldn't want to be her lawyer because what's his name? That guy? Oh, what is what is his name? Michael something? The guy who was representing Stormy Daniels, who was on MSNBC so often that I was sure he was going to end up with his own show on MSNBC. He's he's in prison now? Really? Yeah? Yeah? Did he embezzel her money? I don't know what did he go to jail for. That might have been, that might have been part of it. I don't remember exactly, but yeah, he turned out. He turned out to be a bad guy.

32:48 Melanie says in the chat I'm not even going to tell you where my mom holds her harmonica. Well, Mother's Day is coming. It is that month, right, yeah, month of May, Yes it is. Let's see. So this is some key points here from again, this is from CNBC. ED Sharon was in Manhattan federal court this week for a copyright infringement trial involving his twenty fourteen hit Thinking Out Loud. The airs of Late Ed Townsend, who co wrote Marvin Gays Let's Get It On. Say Sharon's song copies the nineteen seventy three classic.

33:22 The trial is expected to last up to two weeks and we'll be decided by jury. Now, I do have something here that and there are actually many of these on YouTube, but I chose this one that actually sort of gives us a bit of a side by side comparison of the two songs. So I'm very curious. Now I already know what I think, but I'm and I'll tell you after we listen to this, But I'm very curious to hear while I'm curious here what you think, Jenny, and also the audience. I'd like to get some audience feedback on this.

33:59 But I have a strong opinion about this already, but I'll share that afterward after we listen to this. Oh, hello to a Miriam Bandish who joins us on the Facebook live chat. I'm Miriam, all right, here here we go. So this is so the Insurance song, by the way, is thinking out loud versus Marvin Gay's song Let's Get It On. Okay, here we go. Don't look like they used to before. And I can't sweep you off of your feet. Will your mouth still remember the taste of me? Love? Will your eyes still smile from your cheek?

34:39 Done? And I've been really try

34:45 trying to hold back to the feeling the soul, baby man good stupul us hard twenty three. I'm thinking about how and if you like a feeling, come on, so, honey, naw, take me to having ears,

35:23 kiss me up to the light of a thousand starts. Loving wrong with me? Loving God? Maybe love, love and giving yourself to me can never be wrong? Love? Maybe we found love right? Well we are when my ass off a gune and my memo all right before I say what I think? What do you think? No? No, not, he did not rip off the song. I do not believe he ripped off the song. I do not believe that they're the same. I think this is a frivolous lawsuit and unfortunately it's not the first time and it will be the last time before something like that happens.

36:15 I do not think that they are alike.

36:19 And I you know, when I was doing some research on this issue, I also found some statements that it and it clicked for me that a lot of that most songs can be, you know, wound into one another. There's only so many harmonic spaces for a song to live that you can do that. And if you think about it, how many times do you see people do that? Doesn't mean that the other song was written by the same person. It's just a crafty way of being able to go from one end to the other. So that performance on stage was just that, a performance on stage.

36:48 It wasn't him showing the world that he had ripped off that song. Okay, So here's here's what I think. Basically, I agree, um uh the songs there is a similar vibe. Even the tempo is the same, So there there are similarities. But there's uh yeah, I think Ed Shearon is probably a big fan of Marvin Gay. I think he's probably a big fan of that song. So the songs have a similar vibe, the production is very similar, but it's not the same song. I agree, and and I think this lawsuit is ridiculous. There is uh Stephen brought up in the chat room, our friend Stephan Philbrook.

37:32 He says, OMG, they sound similar. This is such bs. The blurred lines decision was wrong. Also, yeah, that's another lawsuit similar that we can talk about the similarity is this. So we've we've we've entered a period where you know, it used to be somebody um would sue. Uh, you know, if if if you could prove in court that that somebody directly copied your song where a song is so similar that it's clear that they not necessarily even intentionally ripped you off. You know, sometimes you can write a song and you know, I know this, or I've written songs, and anyone who's written songs will tell you.

38:11 Sometimes you can write a song that sounds like something else and you don't even realize it as you're writing it, because you're not always conscious and fully cognizant of what is what is it? What is it that you're writing? Is it your idea or is it another idea that you've heard, But in the moment you're thinking it's your idea because you can't easily tell in your own mind where the idea came from and so forth. But so that happens, and so some lawsuits are valid, sure, But I mean led Zeppelin has been sued and multiple times.

38:47 Led Zeppelin probably the most plagiaristic policy on retrospect from radio with policy you know, we've done at least two episodes on that very subject, led Zeppelin songs that they you know, a lot of a lot of bands, for example, have stolen songs from classic blues artists, like where they you know, just change a few words and then don't give the original artist credit. So so it does happen. But here's the thing. If we've entered a period now where you can sue somebody for their song just kind of having the same vibe as yours, And that's what kind of happened with the Blurred Lines lawsuit, which we'll look we'll look at that afterward too.

39:26 You know, just a song just has the same vibe or or maybe somebody has a song that was clearly inspired by because again I have no doubt that Ed Sharon is a fan of Let's get It On by Marvin Gayan that that inspired him somewhat right, either consciously or or subconsciously or unconsciously. So you know, so if something has a similar vibe, you can sue them. Now, See that's a very that's a very dangerous zone that we've entered in. If if if that now uh qualifies you to sue somebody somebody stole your vibe.

40:06 Um, my dad says in the chat room, I have somebody would sue you? Yes, my dad. I think my dad is uh. He's actually in Greensboro, North Carolina right now. He says, I have somebody would sue you gay so similar that it's clear that they even intentionally ripped you off. Sometimes you can write a song. I think my dad's using voice to text and it's uh. Maybe Ed Sheridan was Sharon's. Sorry. I don't know why I'm so tongue twisted today. Ed Sheridan is the guy who started Sheridan Hotels. I think when you say at the Sheridan, you're saying at one of them, Ed Sheridan's Hotels.

40:49 So Ed Sharon was quoted on Fox UM and I felt that because they asked him about a previous lawsuit, I didn't know this. He was sued last year on a copyright infringement. He was accused of ripping off Sammy Switches song Oh Why, and for his song Shape of You. Okay, he won that case. But the quote that I'm just setting the stage with the quote that he said, and I really agree with what he said, is whilst we're obviously happy with the result. I feel like claims like this are way too common now and have become a culture where a claim is made with the idea that a settlement will be cheaper than taking it to court, even if there's no basis for the claim.

41:34 It's really damaging to the songwriting industry to speak to what you said that that's that's it in a nutshell if you're you know, that can't be the rule of the day. Yeah, or like he said, if you get the same vibe right, yeah, and there. We do have a very excessive legitis society. You know that we do have too many frivolous lawsuits in our society in that regard, I agree with that one hundred percent. It's it's I feel bad for artists because they get trapped in these lawsuits and you got to deal with it.

42:09 You either have to spend the money, go to court, hire the lawyers, get the experts, or you settle it with them and make it go away so it doesn't eat up your money, eat any time, eat up your life. And that's really a hard place to stick an artist. Yeah. Kiss Scott sued once by uh, what's his name? It wasn't Alice Cooper. It was the guy that wrote eighteen with Alice Cooper. I forget his name, but he sued. Bruce Kulick and Paul Stanley had written a song called Dreaming which appeared on their Psycho Circus album, and the riff was very similar.

42:51 It was very similar to the riff in eighteen by Alice Cooper. And you know, but they they settled that. They settled that quickly, you know. But there's also a lot of examples, like I remember Tom Petty being asked when when the Red Hot Chili Peppers came out with Danny California, which happens to be my favorite Chili Peppers song, and h immediately people started asking Tom Petty, are you going to sue them for this? Because it is the exact same chord progression as Last Dance with Mary Jane by Tom Petty.

43:25 Yeah, and it's the exact same chord progression. But here's the problem. But Tom, he said no, he didn't care. He's like, no, whatever, it's fine. He actually was completely unfazed by it. He never he never pursued it. But the thing is, though, But but then we get into this other thing too. There are some chord progressions that are just super common because the chord progression in those two songs, yes, it is exactly the same, but it's also that same chord progression shows up in a million others songs like it, you know, so you really can go down the rabbit hole quickly.

44:02 I remember back in Jesus was back in high school, warrant uh Warren's first Do you remember the song down Boys? Don't know? It was Warren's first hit song. And I don't know if it was even on the radio much, but I just remember seeing the video a lot on MTV. Yeah, it was before Cherry Pie and everything, before they got really big, but their first song was called down Boys, and I remember seeing the video and I was like, oh my god, that's is it? Bye Bye Love or Bye My Love by the Cars I can never remember.

44:33 I was like, wait a minute, that's the same as the Car's song, just louder. But you know, but the Car has never sued them over it, you know. Um. Stephen Philbrook in the chat says they are like thirty songs that copy Packle Bells uh pack of Bell's cannon rhythm progression. I know it's classical. The most notable hook by Blues traveler that talks about the hook. Oh, the hook brings you back patcha bell's cannon being the hook. John Popper does a very good job explaining this within the lyrics of hook.

45:14 Oh. Yeah, he explained it too in an interview with Howard Stern. Stephan also says Stevie Knicks reached out to Prince when she realized that she ripped off Little Red Corvette and her songs stand Back. Prince ended up going to her studio redid the tracks, then left Yep. Well, Prince actually ended up playing. Yeah, he played keyboard on that, but yeah, he just became a part of it and said, all right, cools, it is the same. It's the same chord progression. Yeah. A lot of people don't realize this.

45:43 It is the same the chord progression on stand Back by Stevie Knicks. It's the same as on Little Red Corvette by Prince. If you match them up, it's it's the exact it's the exact same chords. Charles in the chat room says, greetings, fellow Connor, Tonight's yeah, Charles Richardson from the Great Set of Florida. Hello, So it says here again, this is from CNBC musician At Sharon was in court this week to deny claims that his twenty fourteen song Thinking Out Loud is a copy of Marvin Gay's nineteen seventy three classic Let's Get It On.

46:16 The high profile copyright case was brought by the airs of Ed Townsend, who co wrote Let's Get It On with Gay. The plaintiffs first filed the civil suit in twenty seventeen and are being represented by a legal team including civil rights attorney Benjamin Crump. Well, that guy's name comes up a lot recently, and he's got a great name too, Benjamin Crump. You remember him? Yes, Yes, you know that guy. Yes, get Crump, God, get him on the case. Townsend's daughter, Katherine towns Would that just be fun to say I'm being represented by Crump?

46:53 It just sounds fun. Townsend's daughter Katherine Townsend, sister Helen McDonald, and the estate of his former wife. I don't know how to say this. Cherry Cherry Gaale Townsend are the lists are listed as the plaintiffs in the case. Gay died in nineteen eighty four and Townsend died in two thousand and three. Sharon, thirty two, took the stand Tuesday during opening arguments in federal court in Manhattan. The trial is expected to last up to two weeks. The defense, which did not cross examine Sharon, said he'll be back on the stand once more during the trial.

47:35 Townsend's estate alleges that Sharon Warner Music Group and Sony Music Publishing borrowed from the soul classic Let's Get It On in the creation of Thinking out Loud, violating federal copyright law. Attorneys for Townsend's heirs wrote in the complaint quote, the defendants copied the heart of Let's Get It On and repeated it continuously throughout Things out Loud. The melodic, harmonic and rhythmic compositions and thinking are not the product of independent creation.

48:09 Now. Interestingly about that is the gay estate isn't suing. It's Townsend's daughter

48:19 who is suing. In the previous case, the estate was the plaintiff. Yeah. Um, but one of the things that he that Sharon said is that most most pop songs can actually be put into other pop songs. That there's a limited amount of harmonic palette is what he called it. Yeah, but he said that most pop songs can absolutely be done over other pop songs that you could literally take let it Be, go to no Woman, No Cry, and come back to let It Be Sure. So there's a limitation. There's there's some limitations in music as far as you know, there's only so many harmonic levels, there's only so many things.

48:57 So you're gonna have similarities in some songs, but to listen to them, but I don't see the similarity in that way at all. And the person he writes with, they've had the same writing style for a long time. They're very quick writers. Yeah, there was a notation about the when his um, when Sharmon's wife was diagnosed with cancer, he spat out like seven songs in one day, just pouring it out. Yeah, Um, when you know which is artists do that. Yeah. But I thought it was interesting that in the previous lawsuit, if you were going to talk about I think you said you were going to talk about that, right, yes, yes, So the Blurred Lines lawsuit, in that instance, it was found that it was there was a similarity to Marvin Gay's Got to Give It Up Now.

49:46 Gay's estate was awarded five point three million dollars in damages plus royalties and postumous songwriting credit that estate is not involved in this case in this lawsuit. Yeah, I kind of. I feel bad for shared and in this moment like this is like is what third fourth lawsuit trying to defend his work. I don't see the similarity there. I just don't. I don't know where they're coming from with that. I don't see it. Well, like I said, I see it, I just don't think it's valid. I don't think it's again.

50:21 I mean, you know, everybody was inspired by something before them this, that's just a simple fact of anything that you create. But gay's the state itself is not suing. Yeah, this is strictly the family of Townsend and they're trying to sue for one hundred million dollars. Is this this a paycheck for them? Yeah, of course it is. It's a cash grab. That's what I'm feeling. That's what I'm feeling. Says here again, this is from CNBC dot Com. To make the plaintiff's argument, Crump pointed to a twenty fourteen stage performance in which Shearon sang a live mashup of the two songs.

50:55 Crump told jurors the moment captured on video amounted to a confession. We have a smoking gun, Crump said of the mashup video. That is something Crump would say. Crump added that Sharon recognized the magic of Gay's song and claimed that he had quote decided to capture a bit of that magic for his own benefit. Unquote. Yeah, this is kind of That's kind of how creativity works in a lot of cases, it says here. Sharon was called to the stand Tuesday and defended his art before the court, telling jurors that he composed Thinking out Loud independently with British songwriter Amy Wadge, who was not named in the lawsuit.

51:39 Sharon also said the twenty fourteen concert mashup only happened because most pop songs use a handful of similar records. Yes, that is true. Quote if I'd done what you're accusing me of doing, I'd be an idiot to stand on stage in front of twenty thousand people and do that unquote right, adding he had done similar mashups with other pop songs. Quote, it is my belief that most pop songs are built on building blocks that have been freely available for hundreds of years unquote, Yes, exactly. This isn't the first time Sharon has found himself in the cross airs of a copyright infringement suit last April, Shearon took the stand, Okay, this is what you were referring to earlier involving another one of his hits, twenty seventeen, Shape of View.

52:27 A London judge in that case ruled in favor of Sharon and awarded him more than one point one million dollars in legal fees. Sharon said at the time, quote, there's only so many notes and very few chords used in pop music. Coincidence is bound to happen if sixty thousand songs are being released every day on Spotify. Unquote wow, is it really that many? I don't know problem wonder if it is probably released. In September twenty fourteen, Sharon's Thinking Out Loud became a critical and commercial success, when the musician a Song of the Year and Best Pop Solo Performance at the fifty eighth Grammy Awards.

53:05 He said he came up with the song after the death of a grandfather. The song is about finding love at an old age, he told the court Tuesday. Sharon could testify once more during the trial if the jury finds a British singer songwriter liable for copyright infringement. The trial will enter a second phase to determine how much he will pay in damages. Wadge, the Thinking Out Loud co writer, is also planning to take the stand during trial. Crump told jurors during his opening statement Tuesday, if you remember nothing else about this trial, about this case, it is about giving credit where credit is due unquote.

53:42 That is so Crump. Sorry, it's really like his Yeah, no, not supporting this case of his.

53:51 Ja Fed says I wrote a song one time and Ed stole it. DJ Steva's in the Facebook live chat, Hello sir. Uh. Scott Robinson joins us and says Charles Richardson ingested plagiarism on my SAE. Shame on you, Charles. Oh the Connor Tonight's thing, that's true. Scott Robinson did come up with that. Uh so Scott Robinson, I think is going to be contacting Crump. That's what I think I'd watch out Charleson. Stephan says, just like uh Police So Lonely and Bob Marley, No Woman, no cry, similar, not the same.

54:32 I can't think of how So Lonely goes. But yeah, I'm sure there's well, especially actually, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are they similar? There's well, so Lonely is much faster than No Woman, No Cry, but maybe think but the core progression might be the same. Yeah, I mean, especially, oh jeez, if you get into like Bob Marley like then you're getting into reggae. I mean, there's a million and there's probably a million pop songs. It sound like a million pleased to call that a compliment? Yeah, oh yeah to say it.

55:08 I mean, we're at the top of the hour. But before we go to break, I do want to look at this from Rolling Stone. I want to revisit the Blurred Lines copyright suit. This is from rolling Stone dot Com December thirteenth, twenty eighteen. Blurred Lines copyright suit against Robin Thick and Farrell ends in a five million dollar judgment. The legal saga with Marvin Gay's family concludes with final judgments. So this is what again? This is from twenty eighteen. Oh, I'm not going to be able to uh actually no, I can't do that without logging in.

55:42 Let's see, let me find a different one. Let me find a different one here. How about the Tennessee and has a story from a year later Blurred Lines lawsuit revived with claim for l Williams committed perjury. Well, I don't know about this part the long running copyright infringement lawsuit over Blurred Lines and then the article just vanished. Okay, well I'm never going to the Tennessee and dot com again. Oh here we go, I got it back. The long running copyright infringement lawsuit over Blurred Lines is we're roaring back to life with lawyers for Marvin Gay's family accusing for Ell Williams of lyne under oath.

56:34 During the twenty fifteen trial, the Gay family sued Williams and Robin Thicke, saying the duo stole from got to give it up when they wrote and recorded the smash hit Blurred Lines. The jury sided with the Gay family, which won five point three million in damages. Williams denied the claims at the time. He testified the Gay's music was part of the soundtrack of his youth, but he denied using any of it to create Blurred Lines. But the legal team for the Gay family, led by Nashville attorney Richard Bush, said Williams contradicted himself in a November interview with GQ when he told producer Rick Rubin that he tries to reverse engineer songs quote to figure out if we can build a building that doesn't look the same but makes you feel the same way.

57:16 I did that in blurred lines and got myself in trouble. I really made it feel so much like got to give it up that people were like, oh, I hear the same thing. Unte The interview is the backbone of the legal filing submitted in federal court Friday arguing that the Gay Family should get its legal fees paid for. The filing stated quote, he admitted, either without understanding the consequences or because he believes he is untouchable, that, contrary to his sworn deposition and trial testimony, he reversed engineered the Marvin Gay song.

57:47 William testified falsely on those specific topics, resulting in a fraud on this court. Unquote. See I disagree. That's his explanation of reverse engineering the song is the same as saying he exactly, they're just looking for any nugget that can pull on and go. Then he gets some money out of this. I mean, anyone who knows anything about music production would tell you that that is not that is not a confessions every time we can get out of everybody, says Williams. And Thick previously argued they should not have to pay attorney's fees for the Gay Family because they did not willfully copy from Gay's work.

58:22 The court agreed at the time. The Gay Family's attorneys said the Williams interview showed he did, in fact willfully copy from Got to Get It On. As a result, they argued the decision on legal fees should be reversed. Blurred Lines was the biggest hit of twenty thirteen and was nominated for a Grammy Award. Oh God, I remember you couldn't get away from that song. I never liked it. I didn't like it the first time I heard it, and I didn't like it the ten thousandth time that I heard it. Bush declined a request for a comment on the filing.

58:53 He said, quote, we have no comment. Everything is set forth in detail and the papers filed with the court unquote. And then oh, Isaac Banks in the chat room says hello there, hashtag Matt and hashtag Jen, how are you doing good afternoon? Hello hashtag Jeff Pagari. You had the most day dreams or dreaming that you want to make a comeback for yourself and be careful what you dreams for and be careful what you wish for. You have your own show called Doctor JP and Friends Show for the radio show, for your YouTube live.

59:37 Oh that's very exciting. I hope it's I hope it. In no way is going to copy this program, oh boy, because if it does, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get Crump. Stop. That's what's gonna happen. I think his places full right now. I don't think you're gonna get him. Oh I'm gonna get him. I'm gonna get Crump. No, never gonna get it, never gonna get it, never gonna get it, never gonna get it. See, you're gonna get sued by whoever wrote that song for end Vogue. They're gonna they're gonna sue you.

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1:02:44 Hi, Welcome to Matt Cornorton unleash. Who's this Mark Horner? Yes, yes it is. Who's this Mark? Corner Mark? Corner Mark? What? What? What's this? Dot damn card is this my corn. This is a very familiar voice. He's kind of mumbling. My corn is don Armor is calling from Burger Don. The ghost of don Imus is on the line. Oh my god, this is amazing. Don Imus calling from from Purga. You're still in purgatory. How long you have to say that's that's that's crazy. Uh, this is I will say though, this is an honor, sir.

1:03:29 I mean, I don't think you were a good person when you were here on earth, and uh you were kind of a pos to a lot of people and said some terrible things. But you are a radio legend. And uh, I am talking to your ghost. So this is quite a moment. Well, I su're talking to me. I got really are just got arrested. And I sad me or burgoo so you so you uh you so you've been arrested me they call me. I'm glad they called me. I'm glad. They were very are here in the purgatory. But I don't feel dead man dar and I'm well, I'm alive.

1:04:05 I keep telling them, I keep telling them I'm alive. They won't want to come back. I will say this, don Imus, you sound you do sound more alive to me now than you did at any point in the last five or six years that you were actually on the radio. Well, thank you, thank you, right, and you sound more alive than our brig fan. You know, we get your our show over here in Burgador. He said, you are, say purgatory rights, Let's make sure you're the Rglayry. Yes, I'm sorry, I'm eating right now. I'm having watched right now.

1:04:36 Ave. But you say, you say you're not actually dead, So are you in? Are you just buried somewhere in purgatory, Texas? And they won't let you out? Is that what's going on? No, I'm actually here in the PURGASHORYU first class here by the li Fu first class here in the purgatory, and it's a nice day here. I think I am dad. Actually, they don't tell me I'm dead, but I don't feel dead. Ron right right. You brought me in a room, they questioned me for three hours. They told me I'm dead. They hadn't re signed some favorite work, Matt.

1:05:12 And I'm here now in purgatory. It's an undisclosed amount of time that I'm going to be here, but it should be shown that I'll be going to heaven. Matt, that's very exciting. Well, are you sure? Does everyone in from your donkey cock mat? That sounds familiar. I think I think you might have asked me that once before when I called into your show many years ago. Wow, how's my donkey con It's great? So a very important question. Do you get to uh do you get to continue to wear your cowboy hat in purgatory?

1:05:45 Closer? Man, I shouldn't call it until we out from Ratarial. I mean, this is our first time talking. I've never spoken to the ghost of don Amas before. I'll tell any work we're gonna do about you and I when I come down to her the fire from Progret Hard, We're gonna sit down, I'm gonna write some material, and we're gonna think of some funny things for me to say. That's great. It'll be just like your back on the rate. It'll be just like your back at w ABC or I'm sorry w NBC. Oh you're very sick. Yeah here in New York.

1:06:19 Yeah, yeah, it'll be like your back home. That's right, because you know, how was your donkey Kong to get really old? Really? Yes, I think at some point you would stop saying that later in your career, probably around the time that you started copying Howard Stern trying to be more like him. Oh wow, true. Yeah, so even in death, you're still upset with Howard Stern. I don't like Howard. He took all mail. Well he uh, he had glowing things to say about you when you passed away. You know about a lot of people will mistaken me from Larry's fun.

1:06:55 Yes, yes, I know someone who thinks you sound like him. I think you sound like don iMOS. That's how I figured out that it was the ghost of don iMOS. Than well, thank him? Right, yeah, this is the ghost of don Iris. Liar point, this is the ghost of Don Iris. Tracking out right, you have a great day. I love yourself, all right, thank you? Well, very nice? All right, Wow, the ghost of don iMOS. That was wonderful. Now how does that work? Now? He says he's in purgatory. But does that mean he definitely goes to heaven, because if you go to hell, you go.

1:07:30 I see, I'm not. I haven't been to church in a while, much to the chagrin of my dad. But I think the deal is. I do remember learning about purgatory in school. Uh, Catholic school. I think the deal is, uh, if you go to purgatory, you you go there to burn off your sins and then you get to go to heaven. But if you go to hell, you go straight to hell, I think, right, because that would be that wouldn't be very fair, right if you go to purgatory and then you're thinking, no, cool, I'm in purgatory. Maybe next I get to go climb that ladder over there and get to happen, and then it turns out no, you just fall into the pit of hell.

1:08:04 That would be That would be terrible. That would be insult to injury, am I Right? So so I hope don Imus. But he's been dead for years now, at least a couple of years, right, So he's been in purgatory a long time, A long time. Wow, don Imus, Well that was that was a radio legend. My friends. We've made radio history here today.

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1:10:13 Melanie mentioned in the chat room. I think this is my reference in the clip you know I played. I played what has become an instant classic clip from Matt Connerton unleashed last last week when the ghost of don Imus called live on the air. Is very exciting. But talented, man, they're talented. Yeah, apparently he's he was in purgatory. He may have broken free by now, but no, I think he's still there. He may be. I don't know. He's been dead for I think a couple of years now, So that's all. That's enough.

1:10:44 That's a long stay in purgatory. You think, does a long stay for eternity? Uh, in purgatory, yes, but you have to get through there to get to eternity. I guess, so I don't know. I mean he you know, you know, you know what was funny? I love the Catholic second chance and when uh when is that a Catholic thing? Specifically purgatory? Yes? Um um when I when Imus died. So of course people who follow this stuff know that, uh, don Imus had a long running you know. And I know, I know this will come as a big shock to everyone, But I love a good radio feud.

1:11:20 Um. I know everyone's like what you know? Yes, it is true and uh don Imus of course and Howard Stern had one of the most legendary radio feuds. And if you've ever seen the film Private Parts, It's well documented in there. Imus was not I'll tell you what. The actor I don't know his name, the actor in Private Parts who played don Imus looked so much like Imus, which is weird because I'mus was kind of a unique looking individual. But they found somebody who who really who really looked like Imus. The art the makeup artist can yeah, true, true, Yeah, the guy really looked like Imus.

1:11:59 Although you don't see him much in the movie. His scenes are very brief, but he's very mean to Howard. But but when I mis died, I thought, I really I remember listening to Howard. You know, I have the satellite radio in the car, and I thought I was interested to hear what Howard would say, because I thought, maybe, after all this time, you know, Howard would would have some some nice things to say, or maybe something like, you know, I wish that, uh, you know, I wish i'mis and I had had had a better relationship or something like that, and that Robin would would say some nice things.

1:12:39 I was kind of stunned, you know, because Howard's evolved over the years, and and Howard has even done this thing where and I and Howard has never talked about it on the show. I just know this from other podcasts I've listened to where they talk about Howard. Apparently, especially in the last few years, Howard has been reaching out to people who he was mean to in the past, other people in the industry like um, Like there's a guy named brother Weez in Rochester, New York who Howard was very mean to, not not mean to in the sense of like wanting to be mean to them personally.

1:13:15 But just like Howard when he was ascendant in radio, he would have these these radio feuds, you know, because that would be good. And the thing is about a radio feud or a podcast feud or anything. If you play it right, everybody, everybody involved benefits because it it uh you know, it raises awareness of of every of what everyone is doing, and it gets you publicity and whatnot. So so long as you don't get kicked off the station yet, right right, Yes, there are there are limits out how you want to push things.

1:13:47 But like Howard when he um when he became number one in New York City for the first time, he held uh. He did for a publicity. He did this big event. He had the funeral of Mark and Bryant, and Mark and Brian had been the number one show in New York City and then Howard finally beat them, and he did this. It was like his first major New York City publicity stunt where he had a public funeral, you know, and it was thousands of people there for the funeral for Mark and Brian, you know, just stuff like that.

1:14:15 So Howard over the years has apparently over the last couple of years, has actually gone back and he's reached out to people and to kind of bury the hatchet with him and say, you know, I'm sorry if I ever did anything that genuinely hurt your feelings or you know, it was all just meant for a publicity, but you know, I'm sorry if I hurt you or And he's doing that because he has a conscience. Well yeah, and you know not to try and buy your way past anything, because we don't have that in Judaism. Oh true, Yeah, there's no purgatory stuff, right Well, Howard.

1:14:47 Also, Howard is you know he's pushing seventy's he so yeah, so's So there's he's got a conscience, right right I And like I said, he's evolved and so forth. Let's basically, the older you get, the more something on your conscience, it's going to bother. Oh sure, sure, But I thought I thought when Imus died that Howard might find some nice things to say. I was genuinely surprised when No, he didn't. I mean, look, he didn't. He didn't, you know, like he didn't dance on his grave or anything. But he didn't have anything nice to say.

1:15:26 And and and neither did Robin. And I'll tell you what. In fact, not only did they really not have anything nice to say about iMOS, but they they kind of intimated that there that there was more that that never was said publicly about Imis being like like Robin said, Imus was behind the scenes like really racist to her, like like like far, like far worse than had ever been revealed, forgotten all about that, Like he said things to her privately that she never revealed publicly, that you know, that she never could could look past, you know, and that he was actually a really bad guy.

1:16:10 Um. Yeah. But the other thing that's weird about that dynamic is Imisum he was. He was much more gracious to Howard. I remember listening to Imus one time, and he was saying that he was. Somebody asked him about Howard Stern, and Imus was just like, you know, I like him a lot more than he likes me. He's like, Howard still mad at me, but I actually like the guy. But uh, and apparently too. They did run into each other on the streets of New York City a number of years ago, and they they actually had a reasonably cordial and civil interaction.

1:16:44 But but no, after after Imis died, Howard and Robin they still they didn't dance on his grave or anything, but they really had nothing nice to say either. It was interesting and I was a little surprised, but but yeah, so it was wonderful to hear from the ghost of don Imis. But apparently he has a lot to burn off in purgatory. And obviously, ultimately I'm on team Howard. Um, of course you want to be on team Howard. Yes, I'm always on team how Hell. Wow, that's that's good. This is no body well Howard Howard does Howard's an atheist?

1:17:16 I know, so there's no But you're born a jew Jew, right, right, That's that's what my auntie would say. That's that's what I hear. Yes, it's not about the religion. Yes, but just to say there's no hell in Judaism, there's no purgatory. Yeah, okay, Lauren, that's a strictly Catholic thing. Other reasons, other religions don't. Purgatory is a Catholic thing. You're saying, not hell hell, Hell is a Christian thing, just broadly right, Yeah, but purgatory specifically you're sat this hell. Yes, No, but purgatory is one hundred percent Catholic.

1:17:55 Okay. Yeah, you guys got to hang out in some place and wait for somebody to like duck duck, goose chapto or something. Other religions go right past you. Um. Isaac Banks in the chat room, says a hashtag Matt and hashtag Jenny. I would say Jeff Pegary Will formed his singing mixed group and also that me, my friend Evan McCraw, hashtag Valerie Miller, and hashtag Egan Conrad. We are leaving the singing mixed group of Ebany's Cybeing. Oh, they're actually leaving Ebany's Cybeing. I didn't know that was a group.

1:18:31 That's a new name. I didn't either, But apparently they're Apparently there's a bit of a shake up happening there. Mike from Queen City Cabinetry is in the chatramss is Good afternoon everyone, Mike, Welcome hello Queen City Cabinetry, one of our great sponsors here at WMH ninety five point three. And I hope to see Mike Friday night for retro Spectrum Radio. Yes. Isaac Banks also says hello, hashtag Chris lout I seen your video. Chat message buddy, hashtag Matt, hashtag Jen. I was giving a shout out to my friend Chris oh loud it and he sings and dance and I watched the movie Private Parts that was awesome.

1:19:12 Yesterday I watched American Idol. And last Thursday, I just been there with my friend Ethan Ross because we were at inside the chapter of the Inner Rhythm Choir at Lindley Park Baptist Church in Greensboro, North Carolina. Ethan Ross just fell on the floor. He had a seizure. I was there with my friend and paramedics came and check on him and he is all right as well. Ye. Well, that's an exciting place, Lindley Park Baptist Church. I you could fall down and have a seizure there. That's not good. No, no, I thought that.

1:19:49 You know, you're supposed to fall down in church to be touched. I'm glad we don't have a little I'm glad we don't have the Lindley Lee Park Baptist Church here in Manchester, New Hampshire. I'd be afraid to even go near it. I have a seizure. Mike says, you will. I promised Paul I'd be there. Wonderful, so we look forward to seeing Mike. Only he posted that when you were reading, and my brain read that in North Carolina speak, Oh you will, I promise Paul I'd be there right right to that? Oh really, yeah it did?

1:20:28 It sounded better in my head though. Yeah. Yeah. Then there's no hashtags, that's true. Six three two five six seven. The phone line, the studio line is open six three two five six seven. We do have a little bit of leftover, calling it leftover Tucker Carlson News. I just thought this was interesting. This is from media dot Com. Leaked footage shows Tucker Carlson trashing Fox News streaming platform. Maybe this is what got him fired. Maybe he was not on board with what are they call it? Fox Nation?

1:21:00 I think I think so, Yes, Fox Nation, it says here. Leaked footage from the set of Tucker Carlson's Fox Nation show revealed the former Fox News, the former Fox News host, trashing the network's streaming platform. Oh, by the way, Isaac Banks in the chat room says, so hashtag Matt. My friend Ethan Ross is from Greensboro, North Carolina. I wouldn't have guessed, it, says here. The footage was leaked to leaked watchdog group Media Matters and shows Carlson on the phone with an unidentified person while on the set of his Tucker Carlson Today program.

1:21:36 So, Tucker Carlson Today, for those who don't know, he actually had two shows. He had. He had his show that was weeknights on on Fox News, his big, big ratings Get Her Show, he had the highest ratings in all of cable news. But he also had a show on Fox Nation, their streaming platform, called Tucker Carlson Today, and that was kind of like a you know, so it was a secondary show. Instead of wearing a suit and tie, he'd be wearing a sweater and he'd have on people like the evil bigot from libs of TikTok for example.

1:22:11 I won't even say her name. You know, things like that, things that wouldn't necessarily work on his main show on Fox News. He would have on Fox that was it? Oh yeah, Tucker Carlson Today. So the conversation appeared to coincide with Carlson's interview with controversial influencer Andrew Tate, who's a misogynistic views went viral last year, months before his arrest in Romania as part of a human trafficking and rape investigation. He's actually out now, apparently, although the video is not dated.

1:22:44 Media Matters noted that Carlson's interview with Tate aired in August of twenty twenty two. So Carlson said on the call, actually is this Uh, I might be able to actually play the because I read the transcript of it. It doesn't that doesn't appear to be any profanity in it. You can play the actual clip here,

1:23:04 let's see. I don't want to be a slave to Fox Nation, which I don't think that if people watch anyway, Um, we're gonna because I you know, I'm like a representative of the American media now speaking to an exile in Romania and welcome him back into the brotherhood of journalists. It would help us out if he wore a sweat though, because we asked him not to wear a suit like he was kind of look about him, said, you don't have to talk casual. So in the video he's visibly frustrated about being asked to wear a sweater.

1:23:41 Because for this edition of Tucker Carlson Today, he is in the video, he is actually wearing a suit and he's being asked to wear a sweater because apparently Andrew Tate is going to be dressed casually. And Tucker seems to be a bit flabbergasted by this. I know this is very inside. Some of you are probably thinking, Matt, why do you care about this? How does this relate to the large your story about Tuger Carlson. I just love insider stuff. I'm fascinated by it. I love the h I love getting a peek behind the scenes.

1:24:07 But this, it does appear to if I'm reading this Hill article correctly, it does appear that there's a possibility that this played a role in why he was fired. It made conversation. It doesn't sound like he was on board with slave to Fox Nation. Yeah your boss wants to hear yes, yes, all right, here's more is that? Okay? I mean this is airing on the nighttime show, and I wanted to look official. I don't want it to be like bro Talk and I and I, you know what I mean, give it a majority of it, Like if we go like Nation, but nobody's gonna watch it on Fox Nation.

1:24:53 Nobody watches Fox Nation because the site sucks. So I'd really like to just put the dump the whole thing on YouTube. But anyway, that's just my view. Nobody watches Fox Nation because the site sucks. Yeah, yeah, so he didn't. Now I wonder and there's more to this, But I'm just curious. Now. I've never been to the Fox Nation website because why would I, But I am curious to just look at the site. Now. I would probably have to create an account to get to really explore the site. But I am a bit of a website geek, so I do like looking at websites and determining whether or not I personally approve of the design and layout.

1:25:33 And you can get a free trial and see it, but you can't go past the main page without signing in. Yeah, I mean the main page looks nice for monthly or sixty five a year you get the deal. I mean it looks to it looks like regular, it looks nice. It looks like a nice website. From the home page. I'm not going to create an account. Yeah, but I mean no, thank you. Sharon Osbourne has a show on there now, Roseanne Bar. Of course, Tucker had something to say about that too. Oh god, I've seen clips of yeah, Roseanne.

1:26:10 She has a special on there called Cancel This. It's awful. Yeah, the clips. I saw some clips. It's like, oh my god, where are the jokes. It's just her like yelling. She sounds like she's drunk and she's just at a bar, just blurting out. Do you believe this? Yeah? It's really bad. What do you shut me down? Ra? Ra? That's all she's doing is ra. Yeah, it's really bad. It's not like a stand up comedy performance that I would expect. You know what, you're telling the story right, and you got a joker too it, you know.

1:26:40 Yeah, it's horrible. It's just literally her standing there going yeah, look what they do to me? Yeah, give me back my show man. All right, here's here's more. So we've established at this point Tucker Carlson not a fan of the Fox Nation streaming service. Let's hear what else you have to say. Uh, I'm just frustrated with it's hard to use that site. I don't know why they're not fixing it. It's driving me insane. And they're like making like lifetime movies, but they don't they don't work on the infrastructure of the site, like what.

1:27:15 It's crazy and it drives me crazy because it's like we're doing all this extra work and no one can find it. It's unbelievable. Actually, I don't know who runs that site. Trunk on the show tomorrow and I best the plan and then what he's going to do is drive a lot of people to watch this on Fox Nations to be a great help to what we're doing over today. I know. But see, I think so the guy he's talking to is missing the point though, right because the guy he's talking to, whoever that is some producer or somebody, is some executive he's telling him.

1:27:45 I mean, it makes sense. The business strategy is sound, you know, Well, we'll put a we'll put a little bit of this on your show on Fox and that will drive and then tell people they have to go to Fox Nation to get the full thing that that's all very sound, but what he is saying the site is terrible. Nobody can find anything there. So but the guy's missing the point because Soccer even said earlier, I just dump it all on you, just dump it on YouTube. Uh you know. But all right, there's a little bit more here.

1:28:14 We're doing hard part. We're like working like animals to produce all this content, and the people in charge of it, whoever that guy's whatever his name is, like they're ignoring the fact that the site doesn't work, and it's I think it's like a betrayal of our efforts. That's how I feel. So I of course I resent it. Yes, well, I don't. You know, I don't blame him if the site is not good, I don't. I don't blame him. I think there's better ways of dealing with it than arguing with the person that's producing the show and saying this is what they're wanting from you.

1:28:46 Right. But I'm American media. I'm too big for you. I swear that's where he's coming from. He's like, yeah, you have to go my way. I'm too big. Well, in fairness, I mean, I don't like the guy, but in fairness, he did kind of earn that. I mean, he was the number one guy in all of cable news. Just awful. I mean if I was my least favorite of them all, I mean, if I were the number one guy in all of cable news, slimy, can you imagine how I'd be. I'd be like, you better do what I say, or I'm gonna get crump.

1:29:16 That's how I would be. Really, that's a call back to the first hour of the show for anyone who missed it. I thought you would be more like Howard, I'll show you beat everybody. Yeah, yeah, well that's but that. But the thing is, Tucker already did go out and beat everybody. Not anymore. He's got nowhere to view himself from. But I'm sure he'll he'll He's gonna pop up somewhere, my pillow guy. I'm sure we'll offer him space. And then, of course Alex Jones is absolutely going to offer him a space.

1:29:49 I'm sure. Yeah. They like him, well, they can't, they can't afford him up. They'll end up on rumble. He'll get one of those Stephen Crowder deals. And Tucker doesn't need the money anyway, even even outside of his career. He's filthy rich and he spends on how he's spending his money. He's no, but I mean he's he's he was already wealthy because this is it Swanson Swanson Dinners the He's like the air of whoever created that. Yeah, yeah, he's got He's already got tons of he already has an enormous fortune.

1:30:23 Isaac Banks in the chat room says arned. Isaac Banks says, hello, hashtag Jay Burkholder, you are the lead singer of the singing group of Nights Skylard. You been replaced by Jeff Beagari from Wissitt, North Carolina. Hashtag Matt my friend Jay Burkeholder from North Carolina. He is now in the singing group of at Nights Skylard. I can't keep up with all of these changes. I just want to know. Here's what I want to do. I want to get all these Greensboro, North Carolina people. I want to get them on this show.

1:31:00 I want to interview them about all these different groups and the different people moving between these different groups. And Texas Mike is now managing and producing new affirm of the Spark, and you got the one guy having a seizure at the Baptist Church, and I want to know more. Greensboro, North Carolina seems like a fascinating place. I want to know more about it, so says here. Fox Nation produces a variety of shows with talent including Fox News stars as well as Nancy Grace, Kelsey grammer Roseanne Barr, and actor Kevin Costner.

1:31:39 When Carlson signed a new contract with Fox in twenty twenty one, he expanded his presidence on Fox Nation with documentaries and a flagship show, Tucker Carlson Today, airing three times per week. That is until he was ousted from the network last week. So there you go a little more a little or Tucker Carlson for you. There's a comedian called JP Sears. He heard of this guy. I think he's like turned into like a major, like right wing kind of dude. He went on to talk about Carlson's firing. He's a freedom fighter who exposed the truth.

1:32:17 And then that's why Fox News feels threatened by him, because they're buying into the globalist agenda. Oh yeah, and he said that, uh, Tucker has hosted notorious anti vaxers. Wait, I went no, wait, that's the other person saying that read it backwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So there's a there's conjecture out there now, people referring to him in a saintly fashion. Quite literally, he's their lead freedom fighter. He's one that's out there trying to prevent the Illuminati and the New World Order from taking your children and making them.

1:32:56 Hear a drag performance of of of Jack and Jill went up the Hill. Yeah, yeah, man, he's the freedom Come on, freedom fight up. There won't be any purgatory for him when he dies. He's going straight up. Oh yeah, he's a saint. Um, he's a saint, don't you know. Isaac Banks in the chat room says hashtag Matt and hashtag Jen. My friend Jeff Pagary is in the Man band singing groups. Is Yardbird Blue Sky aboard seven and Ardell minus five plus Acock Jupiter. Okay, no math, no math. I draw the line at math.

1:33:35 I think I think these are part of the I think they're part of the names. Ardell minus five and plus Acock Jupiter is at side of already take it well, it's Yardbird Blue Sky, yeah, which is a nice name. And I have to say this, Jeff bagary guy. He sounds pretty busy. I mean, he sounds like he might be in more bands than I used to be in. Oh wow, that's pretty amazing. That's a lot. Uh six three two five H six O seven is the studio line if you'd like to get in six O three two five O six Z seven. Um, there was.

1:34:07 Yes, you had mentioned this earlier and this is also on media. I Trump to return to CNN for first time in seven years for a town hall hosted by Caitlin Collins. Why CNN and not Fox? Is he mad at Fox about something? And you notice where it is, don't you? Right here at Saint Anselm College. Oh way, I don't want to vacuum, must allow my traffic. Wasn't he just here? Yeah? He went to the Red Arrow for a cost problem. Down there. There was some crazy woman that follows him around the country. I guess that showed up here.

1:34:40 Yeah, she's she's um, very be jeweled

1:34:45 jel. Yes, apparently she approached him at the I think she drove up from Texas. She follows him everywhere apparently, Yeah, yes, yes she Uh. I think she was in prison for a bit because she participated in January sixth. Yes and yes, and she said that what does she say that Democrats should be executed or something. Yeah, anyway, Trump was perfectly happy to embrace her. You know that's uh, that's great. Um, but yes, this is from media i'd CNN announced that Caitlin Collins will moderate a town hall with former President Donald Trump in New Hampshire next week.

1:35:27 The network made the announcement Monday that Collins, co host of CNN This Morning, will moderate the May ten event at Saint Anselm College in Gothstown. I assume it'll be at the Center for Politics, which is a wonderful place. What day of the week is that. That's where I met Vermin Supreme. Um, I don't know when is May ten, have to figure that out, CNN said. Quote. The former president will take questions from New Hampshire Republicans and undeclared voters who planned to vote in the twenty twenty four GOP presidential primary.

1:35:58 Here's the full statement. UNA as a long standing tradition of hosting leading presidential candidates for town halls and political events as a critical component of the network's robust campaign coverage, this event with former President Trump will be the first of many for CNN in the coming months, as CNN correspondents travel across the country to hear directly from voters in the run up to the twenty twenty four presidential election, It says here. Media Eye goes on to say the major interview marks Trump's first appearance on CNN in some time.

1:36:29 As president, Trump turned performative hatred of CNN into a sport, and his supporters followed. One even sent pipe bombs to the headquarters of the news network Trump labeled fake news and the enemy of the people. Collins served as White House reporter for CNN during Trump's presidency. In twenty twenty one, she was promoted to Chief White House Correspondent, taking over for Jim Acosta, who was known for her tough questioning of subjects. Last year, she was tapped by CNN CEO Chris Licht, who host the Morning Show.

1:37:01 Yes, she was there when Don Lemon made his comments about Nikki Haley. She had to sit there uncomfortably for that. Yeah, he was man's planning womanhood to him. Yes, yes, you know what I'm wondering. I have a question though. I remember when I was young, the TV stations that they gave a time to one candidate for president, they had to give the same kind of time for the next candidate for president. Is CNN beholden to that type of rule. No, you're talking about about the equal time doctrine, which is long gone.

1:37:32 That one away in the eighties, did it Okay? Yeah, I remember it from my youth. That's why it's stuck in my head. Yeah, that went a weigh under Reagan. That is what some people blame or credit, depending on your point of view, the rise of conservative talk radio because you know, like we were talking on the show recently about AM radio and how these electric vehicles. You know, people like like Sean Hannity and Mark Levin, they did a segment where they were outraged that these auto manufacturers making electric vehicles, they're going to be leaving out or they may be leaving out AM radio in their cars.

1:38:07 And you know, when I was a kid, I remember there was a lot of talk about AM radio was going to be on its way out anyway, because people didn't like the the quality of it. Why do you need AM when you have FM it's so much better, And you know AM has that weird whistle sometimes and all of that, and but people say that, you know, conservative radio was able to find a home on AM radio, and not only did that save AM radio, but had the equal time doctrine not been done away with, then you wouldn't have had the rise of conservative talk on AM radio.

1:38:43 I agree with it going away, especially because I don't see how you could practically, especially now today with the internet. You know, how would you possibly enforce something like that. Scott Robinson says in the chat it was called the fairness doctrine. Oh yes, and Rupert Murdoch paid a lot of money to have to have that wife to clean while Reagan was president. I'm not sure about that. I think I think Scott uses his voice attacks sometimes. I'm not sure what that means either, But um, but but yeah, I don't see how you would ever have something like that, just in a practical standpoint anyway, in today's media world.

1:39:25 Act as the question on why, I guess CNN decided to let him back. It wasn't a requirement. It wasn't because there was a lot Oh yes, because it was a decision that they chose to allow him back on. I wonder how limited that's going to be. Oh, Scott says, it was yes, he said, definitely voiced attacks. He meant wiped clean. Note not wife to clean. Wife to clean is yeah, yeah, that sounded wrong, clean wrong. He paid a lot of money to have to have the Fairness doctrine wiped clean while Reagan was president.

1:39:58 Yes, Carls has definitely said some wonderful things about women. He's a misogyny piece of you know, a Tucker Carlson. Yes, him too. He once reported he once referred to his about women as his post menopausal fans. Whether his postmenopausal fans would think he was sexy, I like that post menopozzle fans. Oh, would like how he looks on his primetime show. While in a second he refers to a woman as yummy, because that's how we love to be affirmed too, referred to as a yummy. All. I love it when a guy I don't know from Adam calls me honey or houn or babe.

1:40:38 Sure you know, sorry, I went down a rabbit hole. Well, the postmenopausal thing might have been a reference to the uh apparently, I believe the median age. Well probably not the median age, but I think the video, I think I think for Fox News there there their key demo is seventy years old. It was it was I don't say that comment that he made, and it's not okay to say that personally. Yeah, wanted to know if his post menopausal fans would like his new luck, right, I don't like your old book or you're a new book.

1:41:14 Well, remember his old look. He used to wear a bow tie. Whatever happened to the bow tie? He went to a Trump thie? Is that what it was? No, he got rid of the bow tie. He got rid of the bow tie before Trump. But I don't I don't know why. But I remember, like years ago when he was on CNN, when he when he when he was on Crossfire, he always wear a bow tie. That was like his thing. I guess at a certain point, I wonder if he's ever explained that I've always been curious about that. Is he married? I think so that must be an interesting woman.

1:41:40 I believe so. Yes, Um, before we run out of time, one more thing here de Santis. This is from CNBC de Santis Disney overside board votes to sue company over tax district fight. Ron de Santis, who is a presumed presidential candidate. He should be making an announced probably in June. That's the most recent thing that I've heard. Uh. He continues to have this very public fight with Disney and absolutely trashing like one of the biggest employers in his state, the biggest, it is the biggest. Disney is the largest in the state in the state of Florida.

1:42:17 I have a theory, by the way, that if he had this to do over again, but he would not have done this. I think he would have you know, after they after they you know, uh, after Disney publicly commented on the what is often referred to as they don't say gay Bill. I think De Santis probably wishes he had just either respectfully disagreed with Disney or just not said anything, instead of turning this into a fight that that that I see. I don't see any positive in any of this. Veronda Santis No, and he's not going to bring any more money into his state.

1:42:50 He's going to cost them more money if everything they're having to take over that Disney was taking care of. But now that he's in it, it's like he can't back down. All he do is keep pushing forward and try to defeat Disney, a company that a lot of Republicans have affinity for not just Democrats. So I don't know how he thinks Disney's got quite the history. Well, I don't know how he thinks this is going to help him in his bid for the presidency. So he had well the Disney World taking care of roads.

1:43:22 Was it like seven miles of road? Yeah, it was like their own their own little government. Now that's on that. Now that's on the state. He had them taken care of policing, fire and ems. Now that's off of the state. Like he just pulled in. There's no way that the state comes out better than it went in. And are in this fight no at all. No, it's only it's it's gonna hurt citizens of Florida and admitiently not going to help him, and it makes him look anti business. How does that help him win a Republican nomination looking like he's anti business?

1:43:50 Quit picking a fight with a mouse and concentrate on what's really going on, you know, like people walking around looking like zombies in Florida because they're there's there's rampant drug abuse going on, the homeless everywhere. You know, you got this beautiful state and a lot of homeless people going without food, going without shelter. I could think of so many wonderful things he could be concentrating on other than arguing with the mouse. But hey, yeah, it's very strange. So some key points from this.

1:44:20 The board of supervisors picked by Florida Governor Ron De Santists who oversee Walt Disney World's operations, voted to sue Disney. The vote came after Disney sued to Santis and the board of members, alleging a campaign of political retaliation by the governor over the company's criticism of a controversial bill. Yep, that's exactly where it all started. De Santis is considered a leading potential Republican candidate for the twenty twenty four presidential race. And this is the hill he's gonna die on.

1:44:49 Yeah, oh yeah, he says here. The board of supervisors picked by Florida Governor Rohnd De santiss oversee Disney's operations, voted to sue Disney in response to the company's recent federal lawsuit alleging a campaign of political retaliation. The panel, which challenged the company's longstanding self governing status when it replaced a Disney backed board weeks earlier, unanimously voted to authorize a lawsuit in state court. Quote, this district will seek justice in state court here in central Florida, where both it and Disney reside and do business.

1:45:24 Unquote, board chair Martin Garcia said at a Monday morning meeting where the legal fight was the sole topic of business. Quote, Yes, we'll see justice in our own backyarde Disney sued De Santis and the oversight panel last Wednesday and US District Court in Tallahassee. The company asked to effectively restore its control over the special tax district and is allowed it to self govern its Orlando area parks operations since the nineteen sixties. The litigation escalated a fight that between more than a year earlier.

1:45:58 That began more than a year earlier when the entertainment giant criticized the Florida bill limiting talk of sexual orientation and gender identity in classrooms. The bill, dubbed Don't Say Gay by its opponents, was passed by the state's GOP held legislature and signed by to Santis in March twenty twenty two. Within weeks, the governor and his allies started targeting Disney's Special Governance District, which at the time was called the Red Creek Improvement District. Disney filed its lawsuit on the same day that the Governor's board members voted to undo a development deal that the company struck right before the Santis Choices took over, essentially throttling the new board's power.

1:46:42 Garcia said of Disney's lawsuit during Monday's meeting. Quote, In essence, Disney is asking a federal court in Tallahassee to wrestle back the hands of time to nineteen sixty seven. For us to be stuck in an urban planning design of nineteen sixty seven. Does that make sense to anybody? Quote, Garcia said, arguing that the board is just trying to modernize the district. The Disney spokesman declined to comment on the board's vote, but disney civil complaint alleged that the state's actions amount to quote a clear as clear a case of retaliation as this court is ever likely to see.

1:47:17 Unquote. The company noted the state's issues with the district only began after the fight over the classroom bill. Oh, of course that's not a coincidence, Disney's lawsuits said, quote. There is no room for disagreement about what happened here, Disney expressed its opinion on state legislation and was then punished by the state for doing so. Unquote. Disney filed the complaint while DeSantis was overseas on a political trip that appeared to be laying more groundwork for a possible run for the twenty twenty four Republican nomination.

1:47:46 De Santis, who is expected to announce his plans after the Florida state legislature ends in early May, is considered a top contender against former President Donald Trump, but the extended row against Disney, one of Florida's top employers, has recently begun to generate criticism from some of DeSantis's fellow Republicans. So there you go, yeah, Chris Christy said, uh yeah, I don't think. I don't think DeSantis is a conservatives. He's anti business. So there you go. Like I said, I don't see how this helps him.

1:48:22 It doesn't. This is this is doing no good, no good. And you know what the other side of this too is he's spending all his time with this fight with Disney. How much is he really doing for kimpaigning to be president of the United States? You know, this is central news on him. If you look him up, that's everything that pops up. Punch his name and it all comes up Disney, Disney, Disney, Disney. I I don't see how that helps in any way, shape or form to get him elected to president. Right when the should I say, when the nomination?

1:48:52 Yeah, now it does. Well, I still think Trump is going to be the nominee anyway. But yeah, Scott Robinson and Chaton says, when I look at De Santis, all I see is a pompous ass, I can't stand that guy. And no, right, yeah, I'm right there with you, right there with you. Well, we are about out of time, so we'll begin to wrap up. Jenny, did you want to uh plug your website? And can people still people can still sign that petition? Right absolutely, the petition is still up. It is at they're a little over thirty nine hundred signatures.

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1:50:06 And tomorrow on the show, in the second hour, we'll have Abner two here that will be our musical guest. Looking forward to that, and of course if you miss any part of today's show, it will be up in just a little bit at WMNH radio dot org and on my website Matt Connerton dot com. So I think we will leave you today with a little bit of Day to Attend track called Hope my Way. I saw this pop up, I said, yeah, that's that's good. We haven't we haven't played any Day to Attend in a while. And don't forget, of course, to be back bright and early seven am for the morning show with Peter White.

1:50:37 And that's going to do it for us for now. We will talk at you all a little bit later. By everybody,