Matt Connarton Unleashed 5-16-26 hour 1

0:04 Speaker 1: You're listening to Macconnorton Unleashed on wmnhnwenty five point three.

0:11 Speaker 2: Right now we have the world radio premiere of the

0:14 Speaker 2: new single from Rubin Wetton.

0:17 Speaker 3: This is called game Over.

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3:41 Speaker 2: That is game Over, the world radio premiere of the

3:44 Speaker 2: new single from Ruben Wetton, who will be with us

3:47 Speaker 2: in studio on July eleven, or actually I think he'll

3:50 Speaker 2: be joining us via Microsoft Teams or WhatsApp. I'm not sure,

3:55 Speaker 2: but we'll see. We'll see July eleven. That's a little

3:58 Speaker 2: bit a little bit of ways.

3:59 Speaker 3: But a couple months. But hey, welcome everybody.

4:02 Speaker 2: This is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from

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5:05 Speaker 2: here with us. Today is Saturday, May sixteen, twenty twenty six,

5:10 Speaker 2: and in just a couple of minutes we're going to

5:13 Speaker 2: be joined by Dave Derby via Microsoft Teams. He is

5:16 Speaker 2: from the band The Damn Builders and they have reunited

5:20 Speaker 2: and they're making new music. And I cannot wait to

5:22 Speaker 2: talk to Dave because, you know, a great band from Boston,

5:26 Speaker 2: but a national act certainly. I remember seeing the video

5:31 Speaker 2: for the song Shine on MTV.

5:33 Speaker 3: That was the.

5:33 Speaker 2: First thing I thought of when it was brought to

5:37 Speaker 2: my attention that Jenny had booked Dave Derby from The

5:39 Speaker 2: dam Builders to join us on the show. I was like,

5:41 Speaker 2: oh my god, I remember the video for Shine, and

5:44 Speaker 2: there's a new video. There's a new version of the

5:45 Speaker 2: video which we'll talk to Dave about, which actually incorporates

5:48 Speaker 2: some footage from the original video into the new video,

5:50 Speaker 2: and it's just very very cool. So I'm extremely excited

5:54 Speaker 2: to talk to Dave Derby from The Damn Builders in

5:56 Speaker 2: the second hour of the show today. My old friend

5:59 Speaker 2: Mike Laughlin, an enormously talented musician who I have known

6:04 Speaker 2: for many, many years and booked some shows for him

6:07 Speaker 2: along the way, and we've done some projects. We had

6:09 Speaker 2: a podcast we were involved in at one point called

6:12 Speaker 2: give It a Name way back, you know, because I

6:14 Speaker 2: would say I'm an og podcaster, And just so I

6:17 Speaker 2: don't know if he's bringing his guitar and playing live

6:19 Speaker 2: or not.

6:20 Speaker 3: We'll see.

6:20 Speaker 2: We do have some studio tracks we can feature too,

6:22 Speaker 2: But Mike is amazing. He'll be here in the second

6:26 Speaker 2: hour today. I can always remember to exactly how long

6:29 Speaker 2: I've known Mike because it just so happens, and we've

6:32 Speaker 2: brought this up on the show and he's been on before.

6:34 Speaker 2: I originally met Mike Lachlan literally right after nine to

6:37 Speaker 2: eleven happened, I think it was that same week.

6:40 Speaker 3: So it's very easy to remember exactly how.

6:42 Speaker 2: Long I've known Mike Lachlan, you know, because you know,

6:46 Speaker 2: try to figure out I've known this person a long time.

6:48 Speaker 2: How long have I known them? It's very easy to

6:49 Speaker 2: remember how long I've known Mike.

6:52 Speaker 3: What is that?

6:52 Speaker 2: Twenty five years? Oh my god, I'm not good at math.

6:55 Speaker 2: That is twenty five right, twenty five years? Oh my god. Anyway,

7:00 Speaker 2: and then in the third hour, we have some music

7:02 Speaker 2: news that we will cover and listen to very quickly.

7:05 Speaker 2: A couple of big shows that are happening today. For

7:08 Speaker 2: those of you who are in Manchester, New Hampshire, and

7:11 Speaker 2: even if you're not in Manchester, New Hampshire, it's worth

7:14 Speaker 2: the drive. Please come to our wonderful city because we've

7:17 Speaker 2: got a couple of great shows happening now. One of

7:19 Speaker 2: them is especially important to me, and I'm going out

7:21 Speaker 2: of my way to mention because I'm going to be there,

7:24 Speaker 2: So come say hello at Jewel Music Venue.

7:27 Speaker 3: It's actually right.

7:28 Speaker 2: Not that this necessarily means anything to you if you

7:29 Speaker 2: don't know where the station is, but it's right across

7:31 Speaker 2: the street from the station, right across the street from

7:33 Speaker 2: WM and H. But Jewel Music Venue. It's a wonderful place,

7:37 Speaker 2: and this is a big deal. It's a festival, beaten

7:41 Speaker 2: and bruised is the name of the festival. It features

7:44 Speaker 2: forty below Summer. Actually, I'm going to give you the

7:45 Speaker 2: whole line up here. Let's see on the main stage,

7:49 Speaker 2: because they're doing two stages on the main stage today

7:51 Speaker 2: and this starts at three pm. By the way, doors

7:54 Speaker 2: at three. Music starts at three thirty. So there's a

7:56 Speaker 2: lot of bands. Here's the main stage. Forty below Summer,

7:59 Speaker 2: Scarecrow who have been on the show, Inverter who have

8:02 Speaker 2: been on the show, Creation from Crisis, the Gray Curtain,

8:06 Speaker 2: who has been on the show. In fact, it was

8:08 Speaker 2: Dennis from The Gray Curtain who invited Jenny and I.

8:11 Speaker 2: Jenny's at an event today so she can't attend this

8:13 Speaker 2: with me, but.

8:14 Speaker 3: I'll be there. Primora, Lucky Shot and Grim or gr Im.

8:18 Speaker 2: Is how it's written with periods and everything, so I

8:20 Speaker 2: guess it's actually gr I am. But they will all

8:23 Speaker 2: be there on the main stage. That's a very very

8:25 Speaker 2: strong lineup. Second stage, Fear the masses, enough of me, Bailwick,

8:31 Speaker 2: Fall of Atlantis. Tomorrow, I'm told Throttle, Hide and Orbiter.

8:35 Speaker 2: There will be live music, food and vendors. This is

8:39 Speaker 2: being presented.

8:42 Speaker 3: Let's see.

8:45 Speaker 2: Oh, I want to make sure I get this in

8:47 Speaker 2: King's Court Booking and Jewel Music Venue Presents. So King's

8:50 Speaker 2: Court Booking is the name of the company of the

8:52 Speaker 2: promoter that's putting it on. I'm not familiar with them.

8:55 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll have to get them on the show. And

8:56 Speaker 2: it's also sponsored by Mystic Christen Tattoo. So that is

9:01 Speaker 2: today again, doors at three. Show starts at three thirty.

9:04 Speaker 2: It is eighteen plus and tickets are twenty five in

9:08 Speaker 2: advance or thirty at the door. But this is a big,

9:11 Speaker 2: big event, So like I said, I'll be there, come

9:14 Speaker 2: say hello. Got to get there in time for the

9:15 Speaker 2: Great Curtain. They're the ones who invited us. Dennis Layton,

9:18 Speaker 2: great great guy. One other thing that's happening to later

9:21 Speaker 2: on in the evening tonight, Let's see Mike Frazier, who

9:27 Speaker 2: is a great singer songwriter from Seattle. He's been on

9:30 Speaker 2: the show with us and like actually in studio with us,

9:33 Speaker 2: because when he goes on tour, he tours a lot

9:35 Speaker 2: and when he's in our area he tries to get

9:37 Speaker 2: in here. Unfortunately, the way it worked out with travel,

9:40 Speaker 2: he wasn't going to be getting to Manchester early enough

9:42 Speaker 2: to appear on the show this time, but he is

9:45 Speaker 2: playing in Manchester. He's going to be playing tonight at

9:48 Speaker 2: the shaskiing right on Elm Street, along with Regals and

9:52 Speaker 2: Jake McKelvey, and that starts at nine pm. So nine

9:55 Speaker 2: pm tonight at the Shasking right here in Manchester, which

9:57 Speaker 2: is actually where Jenny and I I first met Mike

10:03 Speaker 2: Frasier and Regals. Actually we met Regals that night too,

10:06 Speaker 2: But that's gonna be happening tonight at the Shasking at

10:09 Speaker 2: nine pm for those of you listening live of course

10:12 Speaker 2: on Saturday May sixteen, So a couple of big shows.

10:15 Speaker 3: But again, please come.

10:17 Speaker 2: To Jewel because I will be there and I would

10:19 Speaker 2: love to say hello, and would love for you to

10:21 Speaker 2: say hello to me. And I cannot wait to see

10:23 Speaker 2: The Gray Curtain live. I haven't seen the Greay Curtain.

10:25 Speaker 2: I haven't seen scarecrow Hill live either. They've been on

10:27 Speaker 2: the show. They're amazing. Haven't seen Inverter live. They've been

10:29 Speaker 2: on the show. They're amazing. So and we're gonna feature

10:32 Speaker 2: some of their music today in the third hour.

10:34 Speaker 3: Of the show. But right now, let's go ahead and

10:37 Speaker 3: do this. We're gonna play again.

10:38 Speaker 2: This is Shine twenty twenty six it's the newly remastered

10:42 Speaker 2: version by The Damn Builders, and we're gonna get Dave

10:46 Speaker 2: Derby on with us via Microsoft Teams to talk all

10:49 Speaker 2: about it. I cannot wait to talk to Dave. This

10:51 Speaker 2: is so cool, this is I'm very excited about today's show.

10:54 Speaker 2: But here it is Shine, the twenty twenty sixth version

10:57 Speaker 2: by The Damn Builders.

11:24 Speaker 5: She tells you speak much as she tells me.

11:28 Speaker 8: Her favorite bands.

11:31 Speaker 5: It's not too much.

11:32 Speaker 8: To talk about what else she understands.

11:37 Speaker 5: I know she likes.

11:41 Speaker 8: That.

11:41 Speaker 5: She wants me what she wants to stop past her.

11:49 Speaker 9: Shop from k and now we'll see talk yes to day.

12:13 Speaker 9: I let her smoking Bob, you get your to bab

12:19 Speaker 9: behind don't know what too long and anybody. When she

12:26 Speaker 9: wanted to tell Jane I know something what I could,

12:54 Speaker 9: but so easily because her hands colored red.

13:00 Speaker 3: We'nna ask her she'll time out to She.

13:04 Speaker 10: Tells me it's already day.

13:06 Speaker 11: I don't know.

13:10 Speaker 8: Let's check them at time so out candle to side.

13:18 Speaker 8: How fucking.

13:47 Speaker 2: Oh that is so good The Damn Builders Shine. But

13:51 Speaker 2: that's the new version, remastered version. We're actually gonna play

13:54 Speaker 2: another track while we get Dave on via Microsoft Teams.

13:58 Speaker 2: Let's us sneak this one in. This one's called I

14:00 Speaker 2: Hope It's not too late again The Damn Builder's new music.

14:04 Speaker 12: Hont lot Hey, hont.

14:34 Speaker 13: God, to.

14:38 Speaker 8: God, to.

14:45 Speaker 11: God, God, look at to.

15:10 Speaker 5: Look at to, got.

15:18 Speaker 11: To, got to, got to.

15:31 Speaker 14: Be, got to run.

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15:42 Speaker 8: Look not to look at, to look at tost can

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17:25 Speaker 8: Has spa but its spell.

17:34 Speaker 7: And.

17:37 Speaker 5: Than show of.

17:42 Speaker 8: Is disposed to a can discan and the past a spell.

18:21 Speaker 2: Hey, that is I Hope We're not too late by

18:23 Speaker 2: the Damn Builders. That is an ironic title given the circumstance.

18:27 Speaker 2: We're having a little bit of a problem connecting with Dave,

18:30 Speaker 2: so we're trying to figure this out. We're using Microsoft Teams,

18:33 Speaker 2: but sometimes people have an issue with it. It happens technology.

18:37 Speaker 2: We'll bite us in the backside once in a while.

18:39 Speaker 2: I think what we're gonna do is we're gonna go

18:41 Speaker 2: ahead and play one more Damn Builders song. This is

18:44 Speaker 2: another one of the remasters that I really really like.

18:46 Speaker 2: This is called Delaware. We're gonna give this a spin.

18:48 Speaker 2: We're gonna see if we can get Dave, if we

18:50 Speaker 2: can get this all figured out. If we can't, we'll

18:52 Speaker 2: move on. We've got plenty to do on the show today.

18:56 Speaker 2: If you are just joining us, this is Matt Connorton Unleashed.

18:58 Speaker 2: We are live on this Saturday morning, May sixteen, twenty

19:02 Speaker 2: twenty six here at wm n H ninety five point

19:05 Speaker 2: three FM.

19:06 Speaker 3: But let's give this a listen. This is called Delaware again.

19:09 Speaker 3: This is the Damn Builders.

19:21 Speaker 8: Because your mother, I mean stand you win, your sex, compassion, virtue.

19:41 Speaker 5: Let's just a you can't kick je a hot starts.

20:11 Speaker 14: Next my heart to know you're having a brilliant stars

20:28 Speaker 14: of bullying.

20:34 Speaker 5: It's the time supply supplies. You told you despise me.

21:15 Speaker 5: I'm g cards to let you starve. An't like your

21:25 Speaker 5: stuff spots to get to that's.

21:33 Speaker 8: Train that too. I tell my Sun she want to.

21:47 Speaker 15: Take all the ham snot suppress.

22:01 Speaker 5: Not stand of, not fun day.

23:47 Speaker 6: I love that.

23:48 Speaker 3: That is Delaware.

23:49 Speaker 2: The band is the Damn Builders, great Boston band, and

23:53 Speaker 2: uh they've got They have reunited after many many years

23:57 Speaker 2: and it's pretty cool.

23:57 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, we're having a problem getting Dave dr be.

24:00 Speaker 2: On with us via Microsoft Teams I won't pore you

24:03 Speaker 2: with the details, but if we can get it figured out,

24:06 Speaker 2: we will bring Dave on. If we cannot, we will

24:09 Speaker 2: have to reschedule. But that does happen sometimes, and like

24:13 Speaker 2: I said, technology does not always not always work quite

24:17 Speaker 2: the way that we want it to. But if you

24:19 Speaker 2: are joining us live, this is Matt Connorton Unleashed and

24:22 Speaker 2: we are live from the studios of w MNH ninety

24:25 Speaker 2: five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Are

24:28 Speaker 2: very warm at Manchester, New Hampshire. I think it's supposed

24:30 Speaker 2: to be in the eighties today, it's supposed to be

24:33 Speaker 2: in the nineties later in the week. I'm a weird guy.

24:36 Speaker 2: I actually like it hot. I not only don't mind

24:40 Speaker 2: it hot. Some people don't mind it hot. I actually

24:42 Speaker 2: like it hot when it's ninety degrees out. I'm a

24:44 Speaker 2: happy guy, so I am good with all of that.

24:47 Speaker 2: But yeah, so it's gonna be very very warm. After

24:50 Speaker 2: the winter we went through, I think we deserve some

24:52 Speaker 2: very warm weather coming up in the second hour. Mike

24:55 Speaker 2: Lachlan will be here with us alive in studio, and

24:58 Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk a little bit later to remind everybody

25:00 Speaker 2: about this. Two big shows happening in Manchester today, one

25:03 Speaker 2: of them which I will be at if people want

25:05 Speaker 2: to come say hello, at Jewel Music Venue. And then

25:07 Speaker 2: there's a big show tonight at the Shaskiing as well.

25:10 Speaker 2: But we'll talk about all those a little bit later.

25:13 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a big gulp of water because my

25:16 Speaker 2: allergies have been so bad this year, and it just

25:20 Speaker 2: it affects my throat. Not only does it make me stuffy.

25:23 Speaker 2: You can probably hear it. You might be thinking, Matt

25:25 Speaker 2: sounds like he has a cold.

25:26 Speaker 3: I do not have a cold.

25:27 Speaker 2: It's just allergies. But it gets in my throat too,

25:31 Speaker 2: and my throat gets very dry, very quickly. I was

25:33 Speaker 2: reading online something about why it is especially bad this year,

25:38 Speaker 2: and I think it's got something to do with the

25:41 Speaker 2: lack of rain or something. So everything is but there

25:46 Speaker 2: was something else too, But I think it has to

25:47 Speaker 2: do with the cool, dry air, because when it rains,

25:50 Speaker 2: it actually washes some of this stuff away. It washes

25:53 Speaker 2: away the pollen and I don't know whatever else floats

25:56 Speaker 2: around in the air.

25:57 Speaker 3: Ragweed, that's a thing, right.

25:59 Speaker 2: I've never had add an actual allergy test done because

26:04 Speaker 2: knowing what I'm allergic to isn't gonna change the fact

26:06 Speaker 2: that I'm allergic to it. I mean, I certainly know

26:08 Speaker 2: obviously pollen. When the pollen count is high, I'm sneezing

26:13 Speaker 2: a lot. It's a sneeze a thon. My favorite thing

26:16 Speaker 2: is when the pollen is so thick you actually have

26:18 Speaker 2: to wipe it off your windshield. That's when I know

26:21 Speaker 2: I'm in for a sneeze tastic day.

26:23 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a big gulp of water.

26:32 Speaker 2: Ah, there we go. Allergy season will not defeat me. Hey,

26:37 Speaker 2: I just saw something. So, you know, obviously, when we

26:40 Speaker 2: have time on the show, we like to do some

26:41 Speaker 2: music industry news. This is really interesting to me. This

26:44 Speaker 2: is from one of my favorite websites for music industry news,

26:47 Speaker 2: music businessworldwide dot com. Coca Cola denies Johnny Cash a

26:52 Speaker 2: sound alike claim, disputes infringement in a state lawsuit. Now,

26:57 Speaker 2: this is something that we talk about a lot on

26:59 Speaker 2: the show. Of course, AI, you know, you can create

27:03 Speaker 2: AI deep fake voices and images and videos and all

27:07 Speaker 2: of that, and of course anything having to do with

27:10 Speaker 2: intellectual property, copyright, trademark, all of that has always been

27:14 Speaker 2: very interesting to me. And one of the things that

27:15 Speaker 2: comes up to a lot on the show is in

27:18 Speaker 2: terms of a person's image, likeness, voice if they have

27:23 Speaker 2: a very distinctive voice, with which Johnny Cash certainly does.

27:27 Speaker 2: What are the legal ramifications of trying to pass something

27:32 Speaker 2: off as being legitimate when it's not.

27:36 Speaker 3: Was it last week? It was either last week or

27:37 Speaker 3: the week before.

27:38 Speaker 2: We talked about this thing going on on TikTok with

27:40 Speaker 2: these deep fake scams where people are actually using a

27:45 Speaker 2: likeness of Taylor Swift to create content that is not her,

27:51 Speaker 2: but it looks like her, it sounds like her. But

27:55 Speaker 2: you know, she's doing stuff that you would not expect

27:59 Speaker 2: of a celebrity of the level of Taylor Swift, because

28:03 Speaker 2: she's selling memberships on TikTok to some stupid thing that's

28:09 Speaker 2: actually just a scam anyway, and you put in your

28:11 Speaker 2: information and it seals your money out of your bank account,

28:14 Speaker 2: and that's the whole point of the scam, right obviously,

28:17 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift, I mean, well, first of all, she wouldn't

28:19 Speaker 2: be in a scam to take your money because she

28:21 Speaker 2: already has all the money.

28:23 Speaker 3: In the world.

28:24 Speaker 2: But also, why would Taylor Swift be involved in something

28:28 Speaker 2: like that selling memberships on TikTok or Kim Kardashian is

28:33 Speaker 2: another celebrity who's recently been deep faked, if I may

28:38 Speaker 2: use that as a verb on TikTok. And what I

28:41 Speaker 2: say is, when you see something like that and it

28:44 Speaker 2: makes you think, why is a celebrity the stature of

28:48 Speaker 2: this particular person lowering themselves to do this really scammy,

28:54 Speaker 2: low rent sort of thing on social media that doesn't

28:57 Speaker 2: make any sense to me. If you see that and

28:59 Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense to you, it's because it

29:01 Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense.

29:02 Speaker 3: It's not really them. It's a deep fake.

29:05 Speaker 2: So these as we continue into the AI era, if

29:09 Speaker 2: I may, this is going to become more and more

29:12 Speaker 2: of a problem. And these questions about intellectual property and

29:17 Speaker 2: likenesses and trademarks and infringement, all of these illegal buzzwords

29:23 Speaker 2: that you hear, We're going to be hearing more and

29:24 Speaker 2: more of.

29:25 Speaker 3: So I'm fascinated by this.

29:27 Speaker 13: Now.

29:27 Speaker 2: This is something I did not reread this. I just

29:31 Speaker 2: found this, But this is along the lines of something

29:34 Speaker 2: that we talk about a lot on the show. So again,

29:37 Speaker 2: this is from Music Business Worldwide dot Com Coca Cola

29:40 Speaker 2: denies Johnny Cash sound to like claim disputes infringement in

29:43 Speaker 2: a state lawsuit. So let's see it says here the

29:46 Speaker 2: Coca Cola company pushed back against a lawsuit filed by

29:49 Speaker 2: the estate of Johnny Cash, denying that a singer used

29:54 Speaker 2: in a college football themed commercial infringed on the late

29:57 Speaker 2: country icons voice rights. Now, before we go any further,

30:02 Speaker 2: this is something Jenny and I argued about on the show. Debated,

30:06 Speaker 2: sort of argued, we have more clicks on social media

30:10 Speaker 2: if we say, argue.

30:13 Speaker 5: What if?

30:15 Speaker 2: What if someone happens to sound like someone famous? This

30:20 Speaker 2: is a question that gets raised when we talk about

30:24 Speaker 2: TikTok not TikTok, I'm sorry, when we talk about Spotify,

30:26 Speaker 2: for example, a music streaming platform. Say you have an

30:31 Speaker 2: artist who has a voice that happens to sound like

30:35 Speaker 2: somebody famous. Now you are not allowed. Of course, these

30:37 Speaker 2: streaming services do not allow you to intentionally upload things

30:42 Speaker 2: that misrepresent what it is as being legitimate when it's

30:46 Speaker 2: not so. In other words, if you will use Taylor

30:49 Speaker 2: Swift as an example, again, because obviously everyone knows who

30:52 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift is, Let's say you were to upload something

30:56 Speaker 2: and present it as Taylor Swift. You can't do that

31:00 Speaker 2: because you're not Taylor Swift. But what if you happen

31:02 Speaker 2: to sound like Taylor Swift and you upload something that

31:06 Speaker 2: you're not trying to pass it off as Taylor Swift,

31:08 Speaker 2: but you happen to sound like her. And the reason

31:11 Speaker 2: that comes up is because then there is this question. Well, obviously,

31:17 Speaker 2: if you are a person of notoriety, if you're famous,

31:22 Speaker 2: you own of course, you own the rights to your

31:26 Speaker 2: own image and likeness and all that, but what about

31:29 Speaker 2: your voice? And this is something that the Jenny and

31:33 Speaker 2: I had had quite a discussion about, we'll put it

31:35 Speaker 2: that way on the air on the show months ago

31:38 Speaker 2: because this had come up where Scarlett Johansson was suing somebody,

31:43 Speaker 2: I don't remember who. She was suing a company that

31:47 Speaker 2: was using what she claimed was an AI generated version

31:49 Speaker 2: of her voice because this company had approached her about

31:53 Speaker 2: being the voice of something, some app or something, and

31:55 Speaker 2: she said no, So instead they went ahead and had

32:01 Speaker 2: this app have what sounded like her voice. Now it

32:04 Speaker 2: wasn't her according to this company. It wasn't even an

32:07 Speaker 2: AI generated version of her.

32:09 Speaker 5: It was.

32:11 Speaker 2: Just another just a voice actress who sounded like her.

32:14 Speaker 2: But then you get into the question of see, it

32:16 Speaker 2: gets so complicated. Is the voice actress? Do they just

32:20 Speaker 2: happen to sound like Scarlett Johansson or are they intentionally

32:23 Speaker 2: doing an impression of Scarlett Johansson so that you think

32:25 Speaker 2: it's Scarlett Johansson. See again, it's easy to talk about

32:29 Speaker 2: the rights to your likeness to your image, but when

32:33 Speaker 2: we talk about the rights to your voice, what if

32:37 Speaker 2: somebody else happens to sound like you? Then it gets dicey. Right,

32:42 Speaker 2: So again I say all that to say is circling

32:45 Speaker 2: back to this. So Coca Cola is denying that they

32:51 Speaker 2: infringed upon the rights the voice rights of the estate

32:55 Speaker 2: of Johnny Cash. Okay, so we get back to the article.

33:00 Speaker 2: So it says here Cash has a state filed in

33:02 Speaker 2: the lawsuit and US District record in Nashville. In November

33:05 Speaker 2: of twenty five, a legend Coca Cola hired a tribute

33:08 Speaker 2: singer to record vocals for a commercial that started airing

33:12 Speaker 2: in August twenty twenty five. Okay, so if they hired it,

33:19 Speaker 2: now here's the thing again, This is another layer of

33:22 Speaker 2: where it gets complicated.

33:23 Speaker 3: Here if you are a tribute act. So, say.

33:29 Speaker 2: You are a Johnny Cash tribute artist, you go and

33:33 Speaker 2: you do shows, and you do the whole show as

33:35 Speaker 2: Johnny Cash.

33:36 Speaker 3: Right. This is not a new thing.

33:37 Speaker 2: Of course, lots of tribute acts, tribute bands. You know,

33:41 Speaker 2: Kiss is my favorite band, is like a million Kiss

33:43 Speaker 2: tribute bands out there.

33:44 Speaker 14: Right.

33:45 Speaker 2: If you do that, of course you're going to try

33:46 Speaker 2: to sound like that artist. Or who knows, maybe you

33:49 Speaker 2: naturally sound like that artist, and maybe that's the whole

33:51 Speaker 2: reason you got into doing a tribute to them, because

33:54 Speaker 2: you happen to have a voice similar to them. I mean,

33:56 Speaker 2: it's hard to believe anybody sounds like Johnny Cash, right,

33:58 Speaker 2: but it's certainly possible, so it says here.

34:01 Speaker 3: Coca Cola filed its.

34:02 Speaker 2: Answer on May eighth, denying that the ad infringed Cash's

34:08 Speaker 2: voice and denying the existence of an infringing ad. However,

34:13 Speaker 2: the company did acknowledge that the ad contained a male

34:16 Speaker 2: singing voice and that the company quote caused the advertisement

34:21 Speaker 2: to appear on television, some social media, and some online platforms.

34:30 Speaker 2: It says here quote the Coca Cola company admits that

34:34 Speaker 2: the advertisement appeared on ABC, NBC, FOX, FS one, BTN, TN,

34:39 Speaker 2: T ESPN, ESPN, two TBS, and True TV. The Coca

34:43 Speaker 2: Cola Company admits that the advertisement first aired during the

34:47 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five fall college football season. Unquote, So they're

34:53 Speaker 2: not acknowledging any you know that in any way infringed

34:56 Speaker 2: upon or was supposed to sound like Johnny Cash. I

34:59 Speaker 2: guess they're just deniging that. It'd be great if we

35:02 Speaker 2: can find the ad. I'd like to find the ad

35:06 Speaker 2: and see, you know, it's probably I'm sure it's on

35:08 Speaker 2: YouTube right, maybe I can find it quickly, Okay. The

35:11 Speaker 2: company also confirmed that the ad included imagery from the

35:14 Speaker 2: University of Michigan, the University of Notre Dame, the University

35:16 Speaker 2: of Southern California, Louisiana State University, and Ohio State University,

35:22 Speaker 2: schools with which it has or had commercial relationships. However,

35:27 Speaker 2: Coca Cola denied the estate's core allegations. Lawyers for the

35:31 Speaker 2: beverage Giants said, quote, the Coca Cola Company admits that

35:35 Speaker 2: the singing voice included in the advertisement is not the

35:39 Speaker 2: voice of Johnny Cash unquote. The company rejected the estate's

35:44 Speaker 2: claims that it used a sound alike singer in the ad.

35:46 Speaker 6: Quote.

35:47 Speaker 2: The Coca Cola Company denies the allegations embedded in the

35:50 Speaker 2: defined term sound alike singer. The Coca Cola Company admits

35:55 Speaker 2: that the singer appears to have a website that includes

35:59 Speaker 2: the quote language unquote, reads the filing. I don't understand

36:03 Speaker 2: what that last part means. Well, maybe it explains it here.

36:06 Speaker 2: That quoted language refers to an allegation from the Cash

36:09 Speaker 2: to state that the singer in question advertises himself via

36:13 Speaker 2: a website calling him quote the number one Johnny Cash

36:17 Speaker 2: Tribute Show. Oh so, based on where we've gotten so far,

36:25 Speaker 2: and there is more, but let's look at where we

36:28 Speaker 2: are now. And again, to remind everyone, I am not

36:31 Speaker 2: a legal expert of any kind. I have no legal background.

36:34 Speaker 2: I'm not an attorney. I just happen to find this

36:36 Speaker 2: stuff interesting. I do know a little bit about intellectual

36:39 Speaker 2: property and things of that nature, just because of my

36:41 Speaker 2: background and some of the work that I've done, but

36:43 Speaker 2: I'm far from an expert, so I am speaking as

36:46 Speaker 2: a layman here, and I would just say, so far,

36:48 Speaker 2: to me, this sounds a little bit damning. In other words,

36:51 Speaker 2: if Coca Cola is trying to play this off as

36:54 Speaker 2: we did not intentionally try to make this because it

36:56 Speaker 2: sounds like this is a roundabout way of saying, we

36:59 Speaker 2: didn't try to make this sound like Johnny Cash. We

37:01 Speaker 2: didn't try to fool anybody into thinking that this was

37:03 Speaker 2: Johnny Cash. We just what We just happened to hire

37:07 Speaker 2: a singer who advertises himself on his website as the

37:11 Speaker 2: number one Johnny Cash tribute show. But that doesn't mean

37:14 Speaker 2: that we're directly infringing. But again again, and I want

37:18 Speaker 2: to get a leak. You know, one of these days

37:20 Speaker 2: we got we have to get an attorney on the

37:21 Speaker 2: show because we have so many questions Jenny and I.

37:24 Speaker 2: When I say we, I mean Jenny and I both,

37:26 Speaker 2: because you know, these are things that we've discussed a

37:28 Speaker 2: lot on the show over the years. But again, is

37:32 Speaker 2: it is it considered infringement if it's someone who is

37:36 Speaker 2: doing an imitation and impression, like, what makes it an infringement?

37:41 Speaker 2: Is it just that they sound like Johnny Cash and

37:43 Speaker 2: people are fooled by it? Probably? Again, speaking as a layman, yeah,

37:48 Speaker 2: that's probably infringement. If you're intentionally trying to deceive people,

37:51 Speaker 2: then I would say yes. If you're not intentionally trying

37:57 Speaker 2: to deceive anyone and the singer in question just happens sound.

38:00 Speaker 3: Like Johnny Cash.

38:02 Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm kind of not buying it, especially when

38:08 Speaker 2: this dude again he plugs himself on his website as

38:10 Speaker 2: being the number one Johnny Cash tribute show.

38:14 Speaker 3: All right, let's see there's more to this again. This

38:16 Speaker 3: is from.

38:18 Speaker 2: Music Businessworldwide dot Com, again one of my favorite websites

38:21 Speaker 2: for music industry news. It says here the cash estate

38:23 Speaker 2: lawsuit invokes Tennessee's Elvis Act, enacted in March of twenty

38:29 Speaker 2: twenty four. Oh, by the way, there's something similar here

38:33 Speaker 2: in New Hampshire. And this is what Jenny has talked

38:35 Speaker 2: about because she was a part of it when she

38:37 Speaker 2: served in the New Hampshire State Legislature, the JD. Salinger Act. Salinger,

38:41 Speaker 2: of course, a very famous author who is from New Hampshire,

38:44 Speaker 2: and this very issue came up in terms of the

38:47 Speaker 2: use of his likeness for something and or his name

38:50 Speaker 2: for something, and so they passed they passed a similar

38:54 Speaker 2: act and Salinger is in the I don't remember the

38:58 Speaker 2: exact name of the law here in New Hampshire, but

39:01 Speaker 2: you would think there'd be federal l'mp sure there are

39:03 Speaker 2: federal laws about this, but obviously we have a patchwork

39:05 Speaker 2: of state laws as well when it comes to this.

39:07 Speaker 2: But they passed a law here in New Hampshire, the

39:09 Speaker 2: state legislature did when Jenny was serving about that. I

39:12 Speaker 2: think it might literally be called the JD. Sounder Act.

39:14 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but it's about protecting someone's name and

39:18 Speaker 2: likeness from being used commercially in a way that the

39:20 Speaker 2: family does not approve of. So apparently Tennessee they have

39:23 Speaker 2: the Elvis Act. Okay, it protects likeness, voice and image rights.

39:28 Speaker 2: The law defines, Now this is important. The law defines

39:32 Speaker 2: voice as quote, a sound in a medium that is

39:36 Speaker 2: readily identifiable and attributable to a particular individual, regardless of

39:41 Speaker 2: whether the sound contains the actual voice or a simulation unquote.

39:46 Speaker 2: So according to the Elvis Act, if I'm reading that correctly,

39:49 Speaker 2: in Tennessee, you can't do a sound alike. You can't

39:52 Speaker 2: do a tribute and say, oh, that's fine. Certainly not

39:57 Speaker 2: if the estate of the person who's you know, you're

40:00 Speaker 2: imitating objects.

40:02 Speaker 3: It says here.

40:03 Speaker 2: The state also brought claims under the Tennessee Consumer Protection

40:07 Speaker 2: Act and the federal Landham Act Coca Cola denied liability

40:12 Speaker 2: on all three accounts. So according to according to the estate,

40:21 Speaker 2: this is in there. This is from their filing. Quote,

40:24 Speaker 2: the trust failed to take reasonable action to minimize any

40:27 Speaker 2: damage allegedly sustained as a result of the facts alleged

40:30 Speaker 2: in the complaint. Oh, I'm sorry. This is from This

40:34 Speaker 2: is from Coca Cola. This is their attorney's responding. I apologize,

40:38 Speaker 2: I got that backward. So this is their response. Coca

40:41 Speaker 2: Cola's response. Their attorney's response to the lawsuit. Quote, the

40:44 Speaker 2: trust failed. The trust, referring to the estate, failed to

40:47 Speaker 2: take responsibility responsible I'm sorry, reasonable action to minimize any

40:52 Speaker 2: damages allegedly sustained as a result of the facts alleged

40:55 Speaker 2: in the complaint, and is therefore barred from recovering any

40:58 Speaker 2: damages which might reasonably have avoided unquote. In its response,

41:03 Speaker 2: Coca Cola raised a number of grounds to dismiss all claims,

41:07 Speaker 2: including that the trust quote lacks standing to assert the

41:11 Speaker 2: rights underline its claims unquote, that the trust claims.

41:15 Speaker 3: Quote are barred in whole or in part by the.

41:17 Speaker 2: First Amendment unquote, and that the state law claims quote

41:22 Speaker 2: are barred in whole or in part because they are

41:25 Speaker 2: preempted by federal law unquote. That last part is particularly

41:28 Speaker 2: interesting to me. So in other words, they're saying, well,

41:31 Speaker 2: you can't use the Elvis Act because federal law supersedes it.

41:36 Speaker 2: And to that, I would say, well, does it really,

41:39 Speaker 2: Because if you know anything about this stuff, you know

41:42 Speaker 2: there are you know, there's the concept of federalism, that

41:46 Speaker 2: and the tenth Amendment. And we used to back when

41:49 Speaker 2: we used to do politics on this show, which we

41:51 Speaker 2: don't do anymore, not in the not in this iteration

41:54 Speaker 2: of the program here at WMNH, but we used to

41:56 Speaker 2: talk about that a lot. You know, states rights versus

41:58 Speaker 2: federal rights, and states will often enact laws and they

42:04 Speaker 2: would argue that you can do that under the tenth

42:06 Speaker 2: Amendment of the Constitution, an act laws that maybe do

42:09 Speaker 2: not comport with what the federal law is, and the

42:13 Speaker 2: theory that federal law always supersedes state law.

42:15 Speaker 3: But does it really?

42:18 Speaker 2: And you can kind of give examples of where it

42:20 Speaker 2: does and where it doesn't. You know, for example, when

42:23 Speaker 2: we talk about things like decriminalization and legalization of marijuana,

42:27 Speaker 2: will federal law says it's illegal, but individual states have

42:30 Speaker 2: legalized it, et cetera. So it's quite the rabbit hole

42:33 Speaker 2: that you can go down. But the argument that Coca

42:37 Speaker 2: Cola's legal team seems to be making, one of them,

42:39 Speaker 2: one of several, is that they can do this. If

42:43 Speaker 2: I'm reading this correctly, the First Amendment of the Constitution

42:47 Speaker 2: says they can do this.

42:48 Speaker 3: They're free to do this.

42:49 Speaker 2: So I guess in a roundabout way, they're claiming that

42:52 Speaker 2: the Elvis Act in Tennessee, under which Coca Cola is

42:56 Speaker 2: being sued, the grounds that they're violating that is unconstitutional.

43:01 Speaker 2: It violates the First Amendment. That seems to be the

43:04 Speaker 2: argument they're making. It says here the estate had earlier

43:08 Speaker 2: accused the company of entering into endorsement agreements with entertainers, musicians,

43:12 Speaker 2: and athletes quote to induce consumers to purchase its products unquote.

43:17 Speaker 2: Coca Cola acknowledged having endorsements, but denied the estates claim

43:22 Speaker 2: that it uses the endorsements to induce customers to buy

43:27 Speaker 2: its products. Okay, now, what I want to do very

43:31 Speaker 2: quickly if we can, and I, like I said, I

43:34 Speaker 2: didn't have a chance to pre read that before we

43:36 Speaker 2: went on the air, or I would have this ready.

43:39 Speaker 2: So I'm going to try to find this as quickly

43:40 Speaker 2: as I can. I want to find the ad. I

43:43 Speaker 2: want to actually hear the ad and see. Okay, Coca

43:47 Speaker 2: Cola Johnny Cash ad. I want to see if it

43:51 Speaker 2: actually does sound like Johnny Cash. Well I found from

44:00 Speaker 2: seventeen years ago, but uh, it's clearly not that one

44:04 Speaker 2: because Johnny Cash was still alive seventeen years ago. I

44:07 Speaker 2: don't know if I'm gonna be able to find it. See,

44:09 Speaker 2: it might not even be available on YouTube because if

44:11 Speaker 2: it was, the estate might have had it pulled Dowdy

44:18 Speaker 2: Cash Trust as file as lawsuit against See. I'm finding

44:20 Speaker 2: a lot of news stories about it, but I don't Yeah,

44:29 Speaker 2: I'm probably not gonna be able to find the actual ad.

44:34 Speaker 2: Yeah there's I'm finding ads that actually have Johnny Cash

44:37 Speaker 2: in them, but I don't think I'm seeing the actual

44:41 Speaker 2: Why do I keep seeing though? Hang on, let me

44:44 Speaker 2: see what this is. This is definitely it. Okay, I

44:53 Speaker 2: found it. Looks like there's more than one. Okay, this

44:56 Speaker 2: is definitely it. August twenty twenty five. Okay, let's listen

44:59 Speaker 2: to this.

45:00 Speaker 3: This is the ad.

45:01 Speaker 2: This is the ad that the estate is suing over

45:04 Speaker 2: and again. Let's listen to this while keeping in mind that, well,

45:10 Speaker 2: does it sound like Johnny Cash? And does it sound

45:14 Speaker 2: so much like Johnny Cash that a reasonable person would

45:16 Speaker 2: be fooled? And therefore the estate has a case because

45:20 Speaker 2: they clearly tried to pass this. They wanted people to

45:23 Speaker 2: think it was Johnny Casher or whatever.

45:25 Speaker 5: I mean.

45:26 Speaker 2: There's several allegations here, but let's listen to the actual ad.

45:29 Speaker 2: Let's see and again. Coca Cola quick disclaimer, they are

45:33 Speaker 2: not in any way associated with the program. They do

45:35 Speaker 2: not sponsor the show, They're not a sponsor of WM

45:37 Speaker 2: and H, none of that. This is not an endorsement

45:39 Speaker 2: of Coca cola, nor is it a condemnation of Coca Cola.

45:42 Speaker 2: We are simply for the sake of this discussion and analysis,

45:47 Speaker 2: we are going to play the ad.

45:50 Speaker 3: Here we go.

45:55 Speaker 6: Stand with fire and side. I won't s upseide.

46:06 Speaker 2: Hey, okay, we're halfway through the ad. We're at fourteen seconds.

46:09 Speaker 2: It's the thirty second ad. Can I just say this,

46:11 Speaker 2: I don't think it sounds like Johnny Cash. What do

46:15 Speaker 2: you all think? I'd be very curious to get some

46:17 Speaker 2: audience feedback on this. I don't think it sounds like

46:19 Speaker 2: Johnny Cash. Here's what I think it sounds like. I

46:22 Speaker 2: think it sounds like someone singing in a style similar

46:25 Speaker 2: to Johnny Cash. Like, you know, that's who this guy is, right,

46:29 Speaker 2: He claims on his website he's the world's greatest Johnny

46:32 Speaker 2: Cash impersonator of all time, in the entire universe, or

46:36 Speaker 2: however it was that he put it. But I don't

46:38 Speaker 2: think it actually sounds like Johnny Cash. I think it

46:40 Speaker 2: sounds like someone singing in the style of Johnny Cash.

46:42 Speaker 2: But it does not sound like Johnny Cash to me.

46:44 Speaker 2: Let's hear the rest of the ad. You'd be the judge.

46:50 Speaker 6: It kid'st the.

46:54 Speaker 3: Again passion, all right.

47:02 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, because of the effects of the

47:04 Speaker 2: crowd noise in the ads, it's almost hard to clearly

47:07 Speaker 2: hear the voice. But guys, you know, I started out

47:12 Speaker 2: thinking that Coca Cola was in the wrong here, but

47:14 Speaker 2: now I'm starting to think they're not. I don't think

47:16 Speaker 2: that sounds like Johnny Cash. I think this is a

47:19 Speaker 2: frivolous lawsuit. That does not sound like Johnny Cash. To me,

47:22 Speaker 2: that sounds like someone vaguely singing in a style like

47:25 Speaker 2: Johnny Cash, But I don't think that. Let's play just

47:28 Speaker 2: the beginning again, because in the beginning you can more

47:30 Speaker 2: clearly hear the voice. By the time you get to

47:32 Speaker 2: the end of the ad, there's all this crowd noise

47:34 Speaker 2: and the vocal track in the ad gets buried a

47:38 Speaker 2: little bit. Let's hear the beginning again.

47:45 Speaker 6: Now with fir inside this drum albums upside.

47:55 Speaker 2: Okay, if you had played this for me, this is

47:58 Speaker 2: just my opinion. If you had played this for me

48:02 Speaker 2: and you said to me, Matt, who does that sound

48:05 Speaker 2: like to you? I would probably say something like, m

48:09 Speaker 2: kind of reminds me of Johnny Cash. What I would

48:13 Speaker 2: not say is that's Johnny Cash. I might say it

48:16 Speaker 2: kind of reminds me of Johnny Cash, but reminds me

48:19 Speaker 2: of and sounds exactly like or is definitely trying to

48:23 Speaker 2: fool somebody. That's not the same thing. A lot of

48:26 Speaker 2: things sound like other things. A lot of artists sound

48:28 Speaker 2: like other artists. A lot of voices kind of remind

48:30 Speaker 2: you of other voices or are evocative of other things

48:33 Speaker 2: that you might hear. That's not the same thing as copying.

48:36 Speaker 2: And I guess what I'm saying is if to use

48:38 Speaker 2: the legal term. That's not the same as infringement.

48:42 Speaker 3: Let's see.

48:43 Speaker 2: Oh, our friend Charles Richardson is in the chat room

48:45 Speaker 2: and has some feedback on this. Let's see what Charles

48:47 Speaker 2: has to say. Of course, Charles.

48:48 Speaker 3: Richardson, host of The Charles Richardson Show.

48:51 Speaker 2: He says, also, Coca Cola denies having a certain drug

48:55 Speaker 2: that starts with coca included in their drink. Well, that's true.

48:59 Speaker 2: There's a story. I assume it's I assume it's true.

49:03 Speaker 2: It's often been told that Coca Cola originally the reason

49:07 Speaker 2: it's called that the original formulation of Coca Cola had caffeine,

49:11 Speaker 2: not caffeine. Of course it has caffeine. Uh, had cocaine

49:14 Speaker 2: in it. That's what I've always heard. Obviously it does

49:18 Speaker 2: not now, Charles said, but we know better. Charles also said,

49:21 Speaker 2: sounds like an average country style singer.

49:24 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you.

49:25 Speaker 2: Charles agrees with me. Yeah, that does not sound like

49:27 Speaker 2: Johnny Cash. So this is a money grab. That's Judge

49:31 Speaker 2: Connerton has ruled I don't have a gavel. I can

49:33 Speaker 2: slay my water bottle. Judge Connerton has ruled case dismissed.

49:38 Speaker 2: This is a money grab. It is a frivolous lawsuit

49:40 Speaker 2: by the estate of Johnny Cash. That does not sound

49:43 Speaker 2: like Johnny Cash in the commercial. I'm sorry that someone

49:46 Speaker 2: who happens to be a Johnny Cash tribute singer just

49:50 Speaker 2: you know, happens to sound a little bit like him

49:52 Speaker 2: in the ad.

49:53 Speaker 3: But that would not fool me. Now, maybe that does

49:57 Speaker 3: fool some.

49:57 Speaker 2: People, and maybe the lawyer for the estate are approaching

50:01 Speaker 2: it like, well, the average person is easily fooled.

50:05 Speaker 3: But come on, it didn't fool me.

50:09 Speaker 2: Okay, Uh that that clearly Like I said, if I'd

50:12 Speaker 2: heard that cold and you had said to me, and

50:20 Speaker 2: you had said to me, uh that, you know, Matt,

50:25 Speaker 2: who is this, I wouldn't say it was Johnny Cash.

50:28 Speaker 2: I would say it was I might say it was

50:29 Speaker 2: someone might say it was someone who reminded me of

50:31 Speaker 2: Johnny Cash. Or Charles pointed out, you know, might just

50:34 Speaker 2: remind you of uh, you know, your your average country

50:38 Speaker 2: singer with with some twang in his voice. Oh beepin

50:41 Speaker 2: Art is also in the chat room. He's a consistent

50:43 Speaker 2: supporter of the show. Hello be And of course Isaac

50:46 Speaker 2: Banks is in the chat room as well. Hi, Isaac,

50:50 Speaker 2: just want to say hello to our peeps. But uh,

50:52 Speaker 2: we are approaching the top of the hour, So what

50:55 Speaker 2: we're gonna do. We're gonna We're gonna move on from that.

50:57 Speaker 2: We'll keep an eye on that story though, going forward

50:58 Speaker 2: again these top of intellectual property and infringement and copyright

51:02 Speaker 2: and trademark and likeness likenesses of one's voice again as

51:06 Speaker 2: we move into the AI area, although this particular story

51:09 Speaker 2: turns out had nothing to do with AI directly, but

51:12 Speaker 2: these issues will continue to take center stage, so we

51:15 Speaker 2: will keep an eye on that.

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