Matt Connarton Unleashed 5-23-26 hour 1

Speaker 1: You're listening to Macconnorton Unleashed on wm n H ninety five point three.

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Speaker 2: And now another world radio premiere. You heard it here first on w m n H ninety five point three FM and Matt Connerton Unleashed. It is the second single from White Ash, coming out May twenty seven. This is called Blue Skies.

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Speaker 2: Oh that is cool. Welcome everybody, Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of wm NH ninety five point three FM, Inglorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course you can also stream the show from anywhere. I go to Matt connorton dot com slash live for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact and fos, show archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is Saturday, May twenty third, twenty twenty six. We started out with a couple of big World radio premieres, starting with, of course, a brand new single from Replaced by Robots, which is also called Replaced by Robots, the theme from Zero Joy Zero and that is going to radio right now as we speak.

Speaker 2: But you heard it here first on WMNH ninety five point three FM. Great band from Boston and they've been on the show. Definitely be having them back in the near future. And then after that, we heard the brand new single from White Ash, which is coming out May twenty seventh, and again you heard it here first first time on American radio, called Blue Skies. I believe they've been on the show with us before, and they will be back in the near future as well, So can't wait to talk with them. And yes, by the way, we are live.

Speaker 2: I do know, and if you know, you know, and some people will know who I'm referring to. I'm not gonna mention the name, but there is a certain podcaster out of New York who has been telling everyone who will listen that I am no longer on the air, that this show has been canceled, and that I've been run out of town. And that is not true. Of course I am here. The show is live, and here we are, so you know. At first, I thought maybe this, maybe this individual was confused because of a recent change in my schedule, so to speak, and again that's one of those if you know, you know things.

Speaker 2: But then it occurred to me that they've been saying this about me. I think probably every six months or so, this particular person says this about me, goes online and starts claiming that I no longer have a show. And it's funny, you know, if you're going to make up lies about someone, I was thinking about this. I was thinking about this this morning. You know, if you're old enough to remember what life was like before we had social media and before we had the internet, before we had things like Google, for example, you know, there was a time, a simpler time, when it was very easy to make up lies about someone because there was no way to immediately verify and debunk something if it wasn't true.

Speaker 2: But now it's very easy to debunk something. So, for example, if someone tells you that this show doesn't exist anymore and that it's been canceled, if you just google the show, you'll see that the show carries on. So so we are here. Do not believe what you've heard from that particular person. Of course, if you believe what you hear from that particular person, that podcast are out of New York, you would probably think all kinds of insane things about me and and Jenny as well and all the people we associate with.

Speaker 2: But no, the show continues. The show is alive and well it's funny too. The person who was claiming that they also claim that I stole my entire show format from them, which is also very interesting because my show format is nothing like the format of the podcast that he does online. So I don't know. But people say crazy things, So what are you gonna do? But that's part of what keeps life interesting. Not only are we live and on the air, but we have a great show for you. In just a couple of minutes, we're gonna be talking with Danny Shavis from the Velt and we're gonna play their new single in just a moment.

Speaker 2: Can't wait to do that. Great band originating from North Carolina. They're back with some brand new music. Also, in the second hour, we have two guests joining us. We have nor Addiction or I should new our Addiction, I think would be the correct pronunciation. Really great, great project out of Italy, and I love these guys. They've got kind of an industrial sound and I can't wait to share that with you, really really good. And then in the second half of the second hour, we have John Poussett Dart who's got a show coming up.

Speaker 2: He's going to be playing right here in Manchester, very very soon next month, I believe, and he is going to be calling in so I can't wait to talk to him. He's been on the show with us, we had an amazing conversation the last time. It'll be really great to welcome him back to the show. Then in the third hour frequency overload out of New York, they're going to be on with us. I cannot wait for that. Also, one other thing, and for those of you who are watching the live stream, be it on YouTube or Facebook or wherever you might see this, I'm going to hold this package up.

Speaker 2: And of course most of you are audio listeners. Radio is of course an audio medium. But if you do happen to be watching the live stream, I'll hold this package up for you. So this is from our friend grim Rock out of Pennsylvania, the Great State of Pennsylvania. He's been on the show several times. But next week Grimrock will be here with us live in person because he's going on tour, or he is on tour, but he'll be in our area next week. He's gonna be playing a show that night, May thirtieth. He's gonna be playing in Nashua at the Spot Mike McDowell, of course, the owner of the spot.

Speaker 2: He's been on the show with us too, but he's gonna be playing there that night, so he's going to be here in studio with us next week. I cannot wait to meet him. He's a great guy. He has sent us some amazing care packages over the years, and later in the show. The reason I'm holding this up, I'll probably do it if we don't get to it at the end of this hour, probably in the probably in the third hour. Second hour is gonna be really busy, so we're either gonna do it in the second hour. I'm sorry, you know, We're either gonna do it in the first hour or the third hour.

Speaker 2: But I will open this live on the air. We'll do a quick live unboxing. I'm pretty sure it's T shirts. In fact, I know for a fact it's T shirts. But I cannot wait to see. Everything that he does for merch is really, really good. Grim Rock does great merch. So we will open this live on the air. We will see what's inside, and if it is T shirts, which again I'm pretty sure it is, Jenny and I will be wring those next week, of course on the show and when we go to see him play live at the Spot in Nashua.

Speaker 2: So really looking forward to that. So we have an action packed show. We also have a little bit of music industry news for later in the show. We will try to get to There are always many, many things happening. But right now, we're going to go ahead and we're going to play the new single from the Velt. This is called black Girl. We're going to talk about this on the other side with Danny Shaffus. I'm not sure if it's Danny and Daniel who are joining us or just Danny, but we will be talking with them or him via WhatsApp, either one or both.

Speaker 2: And cannot wait. This is really good. Check this out, brand new single from the Velt.

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Speaker 2: All right. That is brand new from the Velt. The song is called black Girl. And we've got oh I think he's we are having a little bit of an issue with WhatsApp. It looks like it keeps connecting and disconnecting. So I think what we're gonna do. I'm gonna go ahead and try I'm gonna play another another track here they sent us some Oh you know what, let's play this. We actually have a couple new singles. We'll play this one. This is another track from the Velt and we'll see if we can get Danny on the line.

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Speaker 2: All right, another great song from the Velt. That is Angel Heart. Let's see if we've got uh, I think we've got Danny on the line with us. Danny, are you there?

Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

Speaker 2: Sorry about I don't know what was happening. It was like we were trying to connect with you before and the line kept dropping. But so I'm relieved that we get to talk to you because I, I really I'd never really listened to much of the Velt, and I've been listening to your music and I really love it, especially the new single h Black Girl. And but you guys have been You guys have been around a long time.

Speaker 11: Today will mark the sixtieth year.

Speaker 2: Man, you know, Oh my god, that's that's incredible. So you guys, so now now you and your your brother Daniel, you guys are twins. Is that correct?

Speaker 11: Yeah?

Speaker 8: Yeah, so you're you're.

Speaker 2: Your parents actually chose to name you Danny and Daniel.

Speaker 11: Well, my ods name my oz named is you know, you know, I still think that it's a different name. But I've been, you know, conditioned to be the way since since birth.

Speaker 2: Oh, I got you.

Speaker 11: If he's he's Christopher and Cornelia?

Speaker 3: Oh?

Speaker 2: Interest saying okay, I mean, because when I realized when I was reading about you guys, I was trying to figure out, now, who, uh who would do that to their to their twin size.

Speaker 11: No, no, we've been getting a lot, I can imagine.

Speaker 2: No, it's cool though. So now, so you guys when you when you released the new single which we did, uh feature at the top of the show, Black Girl, is this? Is this like the first song after after how many years? Because again, you guys have have been around for that, as you said, a very very long time, longer than I realized. But has it been a while?

Speaker 11: I mean when I say sixty you we just turned sixty today, gotcha?

Speaker 1: Okay?

Speaker 2: So you so literally you guys, but you probably started making music at a very young age.

Speaker 11: I would imagine in nineteen eighty six, eighty five or something like that. Okay, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, and we you know, the Trionga area was a was a a good place for like hardcore music and punk rock. And they had a little scene over here in our first show was good to called pursonal conformity. You know, we had it's like your kids matinee things like that, you know, but they didn't really do that anymore, like you know that that we know all kind of thing. But right, we came from that kind of the kind of the kind of you know scene back in the day opening for a cursion and conformity, like I said, so, oh wow, and we just didn't know when we just didn't get the memo there was time to stop.

Speaker 2: So no, I'm glad you're still going now. When was so, when was the last time you released something? Prior to Black.

Speaker 11: Girl, we released something on this label called Little Cloud called Entropy is the main Line to God, which we did during the you know, during the pandemic and whatnot. And it was a bunch of something that we have been writing during that time. So that was like the latest thing that we did. But before that, we released something called Shocking Fuzz or Electric Fur, which came out like twenty I think twenty fourteen something like that. Okay, in sixteen, you know, right before I toured the brand jumps Masacre.

Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, okay, excellent, So can you can you talk about the song and again we'll play it at the end of our conversation for anyone who missed it. I really like it. It's very I mean, uh, the first word this might sound cliche, but the first word that comes to my mind is is atmospheric? But oh yeah, but can you tell us about the song and and and it's connection to does it? Is it connected to the nineteen seventy two film Black Girl, If I under.

Speaker 11: Sound correctly, yes, exactly, Yes, yes it is. Yeah. It was like you know, we said, seen it back in the day, you know, and we thought, you know, what would be a good idea to have a kind of like a talk to a Twins kind of sounding soul song like that in which we kind of like, you know,

Speaker 11: you know, like that kind of vibe you know, like some of these sounds and things like that we get from what we used to call the Quiet Storm on black radio, you know, kind of like it was the R and B moment and it was always on late night, like most of the black college stations play stuff like that, you know, Anita Baker, Luther Vandross and the theme was welcome to the Quiet Storm. And then so we heard the song black Girl, and we thought it might be good, a good way to you know, you know that kind of like replicate that kind of sound, you know, like kind of more like like a so called shoegaz sound, you know.

Speaker 11: And I say shoegates because the term came out a long time ago, before it was called you know, alternative, alternative, something like that, you know, space rock or you want to call it. But the term shoegaze, I put it lightly because I mean, you know, because everything shoegaates now, so you know, but a long time ago, you can even you can give it away. But yet the song, it's a screenplay by Ozzie Davis about a young black girl whose cousin comes home from from college and she's up against you know, the neighbor the neighborhood hood, telling her that she can't do what she wants to do, and and it's kind of like reflective about how we came up, kind of like you know, you know, you grew up in a black neighborhood.

Speaker 11: You tell people you're playing music, You're like, you need to get a real jobs, so and so and so, and you're never gonna make it, you know. So it's a boy, a young girl who wants to go to college and be a ballerina, and uh, you know, her peers don't really believe in it. But it's just another example of how you have to keep trying to you know, keep going, you know, just despite your environment. You know. But yeah, man, we made it kind of an aterial kind of song.

Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, no, I really like it. Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's it's really good. And it's interesting too because you mentioned being inspired by, you know, some of what you would hear on college radio, and that that really popped out to me because I'm a big Anyone who knows me knows I'm a big uh purveyor and fan of college radio. And you hear things on college radio that you don't hear in the mainstream. And I find that a lot of you know, a lot a lot of bands that or solo artists who have a sound that is unusual that you don't typically hear in commercial radio.

Speaker 2: It's it's very often a product of that person being inspired, you know, from a young age by what they would hear on colle college radio.

Speaker 11: Oh, Cobrid has been supportive. So that's back in the day too, man, like, which was really cool because no no more else will play our stuff or either like even acknowledge or even existed. Man, you know, yeah, the gatekeepers, the racial stuff. Man, It's like there was always a big part of like, you know, why we haven't been out because you know, we've ran into so many obstacles. But that didn't really stop us though, because we we always thought that the music would prevail, and ironically it did prevail.

Speaker 11: So you know, despite you know, all the racial stuff and whatnot, you know, absolutely, we just came off the tour of the Comeleions and there's a lot of love idea. Man in the United States. I think that the press and the media kind of ruins the idea about how America is, like, you know, a hateful place to be. But you know, I can't really say that because we got so much respect and love from people in the in the crowds when we came to play with Comeleions. You know, the people who love the Cocktail Twins and loved the so called sugar these bands like Slow Dive, My Buddy, roll On Time.

Speaker 11: You know, you know, we were all around at the same time. You know, people always ask me, are you influenced by these bands that I have to have to say no, because they came out at the same time as we did.

Speaker 8: Peers.

Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's kind of hard to say you're influenced by somebody when you were out at the same time. But I've influenced them. I'm influenced by them and the fact that you know, we're like the same music or whatever else, you know, But it definitely come from different kinds of backgrounds, right, So, But I can appreciate any any band. I think anybody that plays music, you know, has to have an audience, no matter what kind of music you do. So I've never really prejudiced to that kind of stuff like that, you know, especially coming from our background, you know, like you know, being in church and soul music and stuff like that.

Speaker 11: You know.

Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm really curious you would ask you about this this Eph tell me if I'm saying this right, span of Copadah, Yeah, okay, cool.

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Speaker 11: Okay, it's it's a playoff of slow dog flud rocky space station kind of thing.

Speaker 2: Oh, okay, gotcha? Gotcha? Now, So this was a tour exclusive, is that correct? You could only get this at your live shows.

Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean we wanted to do it like it because we have a record turning out in September called White Noise Supremacy, Okay, and we're going to have like some of the tracks from this EP on that. Oh so we kind of wanted to make you know, I think it might put it up for sale online at some point, you know. But other than that, we've been working on a new, a new, a new record for that. But uh, yeah, it's a two only kind of CD.

Speaker 2: I like that concept because it kind of because it has tracks from the next record. You're kind of giving the you know, the fans who obviously are true are invested enough in what you're doing, you know that they're going to come and see you live. Those are the fans that you want to give kind of a sneak peak of what because those are the real diehards, right, those are the ones that you want to give them a sneak peak of what's to come. Yeah, that's a great concept.

Speaker 11: Definitely, man. And to my surprise, they really are out there, man. I mean yeah, I have to reiterate that, man. There's so much great people out there, man, and it's like really good to see them come and enjoy what you do. You know what I'm saying. It's like it always any kind of monetary feeling that I've ever had, you know, because at the end of the day, you know, it's like, you know, people come on there like your music. It's like leaving with a million dollars, you know what I mean the money.

Speaker 11: Don't get me wrong, money would help, But I'm just saying as far as the appreciation is concerned, is like really eye opening things. And also the age of the people, like they're like really young man, you know, They're like they're liking this stuff, and I'm like, man, I wish you got to go around a long time.

Speaker 2: Ago, you know, right right, I'm curious you to ask you about some of the collaboration on the EP. I've seen some names, Carlos Bass, Will Brooks, yeah, Jason Furlow, Will.

Speaker 11: Brooks, yeah. Well, Will Brooks is a guy named it's called delk Okay. He's like a kind of alternative kind of hip hop kind of EMC. You know, he used he used a static and feedback and stuff like that in his raps, like you know, and his in his programming. And we always thought that, like you know, from Robin Guthrie playing on this song called Lorelei that he had a you know, the beat was in it and the guitars in it. So this so will does it already. He also noted that that element of a distortion and feedback was was always in hip hop some way, like say, for example, being Rakeem's lyrics for Fury, it's like a like a bunch of static and feedback in the background, and you're thinking to yourself, man, there was louder that would be kind of hot, right, So he took our stuff and like made it more like that, you know.

Speaker 11: Yeah, And that's what that came out, like with a song called Evergreen. And then Jason Furlough Uh and Colas Best worked on the track that we did called Tikini. Jason Furlough used to be in this band called a New Kingdom. Oh he's in the band now call uh what is it? What is it called Daniel?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Wave Generators and he did that uh production on that with College Best. Colas Best is he he's one of the engineers for for Wu Tang Clan. And I was doing some session where Wu Tang back in the day and I played on like ghost like a couple of tracks that ghost Face did Face Killer. Yeah, this song called Shakes Shellergo. She can't really hear the guitar in it, but it's I played like little background the background in it. Yeah, Okay, thirty six Chambers studio of Wu Tang Studio back in the day.

Speaker 2: Okay.

Speaker 11: And and uh, this guy named spined Forth for a band called Jack Fou Front DJ. He made the track for black Girl Gotcha. And so we've been keeping kind of close to that kind of feeling, you know. But we also have a up the tracks coming up from uh the guy is that produced in the latest Communions records to Christophe b Okay, you know, more or less of a band kind of sound.

Speaker 2: Okay.

Speaker 11: And Todd Dema from the Communions played drums on some of those things. We don't really have a drum at this point. We use a lot of programming, right, Right, Is that.

Speaker 2: Hyato nikos am I saying that correctly? Does he does?

Speaker 11: He do the high and back round, does most of the programming for us a band. He plays bass and he plays guitar and a lot of stuff. But uh, he's the guy that works on most of the stuff with with us, right rights where there's too but the EP always starts off with production stuff.

Speaker 2: With him for so oh, okay, okay. Is it important to you guys to work with a lot of different people, you know, because over the years, obviously again you know, you've been around a long time. You know, it sounds like you've you've worked with quite a few You've collaborated with quite a few different people over the years. And I would imagine, you know, everyone you work with brings in their own ideas and their own influence. And I assume because I went back and listened to you know, there's a lot of a lot of your stuff is on band camp and I was going back and listening to a lot of it, and it really runs the gamut in terms of you know, you call it shoegaze, but there's a lot of you hear a lot of other influences in these different songs that some of them are very different than everything else.

Speaker 2: So it sounds like you've really worked.

Speaker 11: With a lot of different people. Well, I liked a lot of stuff that we're doing now because back in the day, we will always kind of like told what not to do kind of thing.

Speaker 2: Gotcha, Like, you know, this.

Speaker 11: Whole concept of working with DJs isn't a new idea, but even when we were on in nineteen eighty nine, eighty eight, we always wanted to work with DJs because you know, the beats and things were always natural to us. But they will always say too many, too many styles, and no one's gonna like it, you know, all this kind of stuff like that. Man, You know, I feel we feel a little bit more liberated these days than we did that game, because working in a band kind of like format like bass, drums, guitar and going into a place and running together, is that the way we do things anymore?

Speaker 11: So right right, the production value is more or less what we do now that we're like, you know it kind of like we're mass Attack.

Speaker 4: You know.

Speaker 11: I played guitar on Massive Attacks four hundred window. Yeah, my friend Liz Fraser from the Cocktao Twins got me that job. So I played some incidental guitars on that on that record, and they worked the same way with the engineer. So if you have a great engineer, you have some ideas together, you can come up with a lot of stuff such as the way like you know Lincoln Fong did with Robin. He's his main sound guy and studio person, Lincoln Fong was the one that did all the production for all the four A D bands, Gang Press to Lush to the Cockta Twins live.

Speaker 2: Sound Oh wow, oh okay, yeah, excellent.

Speaker 11: He didn't did all that stuff Pale Saints and you know, he did all the all the production work on that, you know, for four AD back in the day. Okay, So we got we got a little bit of that in US too, you know, as far as sound and music is concerned, you know, because that's where you know, our roots come play through from net. Yeah, you haven't record't haven't recorded with Robin Guthrie at that time.

Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, Now the new album, So when is it? Do you have an e t A on when it's going to be out?

Speaker 11: September?

Speaker 2: September? Okay, excellent, excellent?

Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah?

Speaker 2: How many? How many songs are gonna be on it? Or do you know that yet? I mean, is it all done at this point or is it ready to go?

Speaker 11: Is it? We got we got a couple of there's so much, so many songs we have, man, we have we have like at least four or five records are in US, you know, even more than that, songs that we got that we never did really uh put out. And also the new stuff is just like you know, just developing as we go, you know, but we don't always have the the the capacity to to get it out right now financially. But we're working with a small label called Little Cloud and helping us get you know, put out.

Speaker 2: A few things here and there, so you know, oh, excellent, excellent.

Speaker 11: So yeah, we got a lot of songs, a lot of a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2: I'm curious to ask you about this too, So a little geography question. So you guys are in you're currently in North Carolina? Correct?

Speaker 11: What between New York and in North Carolina? My mom lives in North Carolina. Okay, she's uh, she's getting up in age and whatnot, and so I'm here to I go back and forth to New York because I have to watch her sometimes.

Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's what I was curious about. Yeah, because I kept seeing North Carolina show up when I was reading about you guys. Okay, well that's that's a nice area. I've I've been through there. That's that's a nice place. But but obviously, uh, you know, I assume so you must be spending a lot of time in New York, like you said, though, right, I'm not.

Speaker 11: Really, I mean I do. I mean I'm going next week because my my apartments there. Yeah, I stay part a part time with my brother sometimes the studios here, our little studios here in his apartment, so you know, yeah, yeah, most of the production. Yeah, it's ironic that after the pandemic we started to get really really busy, you know a little bit. Even like before that, we were on like I said, to what the Brian Jonestown Massacre, Modern English and we did a couple of the spot dates here and there, and that was really a good experience for us.

Speaker 11: And then after the pandemic, people were hundred for music and being out and we were really really busy man.

Speaker 2: Yeah, you know yeah, yeah, so that's great.

Speaker 11: Well we can't really can't really complain, but I mean other you know, but it's been it's been nice man. You know, it's nice to play music as well, like to do you know.

Speaker 2: Absolutely by the way too, for people who aren't familiar and I'm learning a lot about you guys, but for for people who aren't familiar with the VELT. I was looking at this you guys are Afrodisiac is included in Pitchfork's list of one of the top fifty shoegaze albums ever released. That's pretty cool. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah Pitchfork. Yeah, one of the top, one of the top fifty shoegaze albums. That's it's amazing. And then can you tell me about too, because I was listening to this on band camp the album Illuminated nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 2: Is this all? Is this old songs that were remastered?

Speaker 11: Or oh man, it's a really old record we did with Robin Giffrey that was never released. Okay, we in nineteen eighty nine we went to England to with the cockto Twins and that record was shelved by Capitol and we had been trying to get it out since nineteen eighty nine. Wow, trying to get it out and get it out and get it out, man, And we went into so many walls. We just said, you know what, let's just put it out. You know, any kind of press we get from anybody else's will be amazing. Look I can see the headline now black Band takes record back for record company.

Speaker 11: I mean, I don't make a good headline, you know, electual. When is it any black musician taking anything to anybody?

Speaker 2: You know, well, you know it's interesting too us. What a lot of people don't know is because people outside of the industry think that, oh, you get signed to a record label and everything's great and you know, and now you're gonna be rich and famous and all that. But there's there are pitfalls, and one of them is they can just decide, you know, you could record an entire album and they could just decide not to release it. And then you've got to you've got to go through and and like you said, you know, to finally get it out.

Speaker 2: That's a big hassle. And it took many, many years.

Speaker 11: It took so many years.

Speaker 13: Man.

Speaker 11: Somebody was always pregnant, or somebody was on vacation, or somebody went to another job and just said, you know what, dude, just put the job. You know, they don't come out to me. I don't. I don't have anything anyway. It's a parent, it's a parent. I don't have anything because I'm doing this, you know what I'm saying. So put the music out, damn man, you know. And that's all we did, was the masters Robert Getti Ge was the masters to do it, okay, and we made it, you know, eliminated nine eighty nine because it says the standpoint of which when that music came out, that we really were dead.

Speaker 11: We threw up with the talk to the twins, he threw up the juice and Mary than we're opening up for like you know, love, uh, you know, the Saints throwing muses. You know, we did all these things, man, you know, but because people are so hung up on what color we are, some of that does not even come out because it's really people are really really stupid and ignorant, you know, And we just had to ignore all that because the music I felt at the time was actually timeless, because I felt like that it was just beginning to get going.

Speaker 11: For example, when we took it with Seafield, that was really a good exposure because they've been there like with us, like us, you know what I'm saying, you know, the music, I said, the test of time, you know, and we and I felt that we were the music of the future, so to speak, because I think the music had like that kind of vibe and passion that was beginning to develop more like you know, electronically, so you know, but since we are who we are, no one, no one took us seriously, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11: It's like, you know, when people see me now, they're like, oh man, you guys are really living in your dream so and so and so, And I'm like, what that guy was gonna do when when I was when I was at the bar and I told you that I'm a musician.

Speaker 2: You think it was joke with you, right right exactly.

Speaker 11: It's like me telling you, like, hey, man, I like, you know, you know, I used to be ashamed of what I did, man, because of the connotations of being a poor musician, not only that a black one. Dad, you know what I'm saying. So it's not really the easiest lifestyle, so to speak. I mean, you lose people along the way because they don't see what you want to do that you can't live, make them live your dream for you, because not everybody's really built for that kind of thing, you know. But in the interim, now everything is all shoegaze.

Speaker 11: Now, someone someone some some people acknowledges, some people don't. You know what I'm saying, right right? I mean, you know, but I can say if I was in a room with some people, Okay, yeah, you're not a real shoegaze band, I said, I raise my hand and say, who are here too? The Cocka Twins raise your hand and I'd be like, okay, I rest my case. You know what I'm saying. I have to go to that kind of thing. Like, for example, if the Jeesus Merchante did a remix for us sold in the Jar back in nineteen ninety four, ninety five, and I want to go see them, and actually I did.

Speaker 11: Any you were Brooklyn Vegan saying that we would like to play with him again in the future because they were obviously about to come back out to do something right. Yeah, So then then then president Manager went on. He went on the Brooklyn Vegan and said, well, you guys are aligning, they don't you know, they don't you attempt at getting some some kind of publicity is going to be You're gonna want to fail. And I said, here's the remix nineteen ninety four with the drug Store mix and he and he was like, they don't remember, you said, they don't remember me.

Speaker 11: I'm like, how many black people had to play with you know? I have to say something like that, you know what I'm saying, and he and then he shut the up, you know, like that.

Speaker 2: Man, it's just you know, man, you know, well very good. Yeah, No, I like I said, I mean, I've learned a lot about you guys, just just as I was prepping for the show, and I I really, I really like what you're doing. Really good stuff.

Speaker 11: And man, thanks. You know, it's like telling it like Arthur Lee and love.

Speaker 2: Kind of you know, and you know music kind of. One of the great things about music is it transcends everything, you know, color and class and and all of it. And I think that it absolutely I've seen it, man, I've seen it absolutely one.

Speaker 11: Yeah, just two of the communions. Man, I saw it. I saw it work, you know what I'm saying. That's why I want to keep doing it, because I saw how it touches people. You know what I'm saying. You know, I don't mean it sound cheesy anything like that, but it supersedes anything and any criticism because I visually saw how our music moves people and how people like like like it, you know what I'm saying, and how you know, it's no words for how beautiful it is. You know what I'm saying right. And the guy from the Communions Rocks, he's one of the biggest supporters.

Speaker 11: Man, God bless his soul.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh that's that's excellent. Now the tour, now that tour is.

Speaker 11: Completed, correct, yes, yes, two weeks ago.

Speaker 2: Okay, And do you have plans to go back out on the road or are you kind of focused on the on the album right now.

Speaker 11: And we'll focus on the album right now and there might be like a UK two or something like that. Oh interesting, spot Diggs and the.

Speaker 2: Okay, okay, very cool, very cool. Well, Danny, this has been wonderful. This has been wonderful. I'm really glad you're able to join us this morning. And I'm glad we got the phone. We got the phone situation figured out and everything, and we are going to play at the at the end of our conversation, I'm going to hit that track again, black Girl, for anyone who missed it. Really really good. Of course, brand new from the brand new from the Velt. People can find it on band camp. And by the way, I'm a big I'm glad you guys have everything on band camp.

Speaker 2: I'm a big I'm a big fan of band camp. Because what a lot of people don't realize is if you stream something on band Camp or better yet, if you buy the music and download it from band Camp, you get a better quality file than you do from, say, if you just stream it on YouTube or something like that. So so I really, I really encourage people to use band Camp. And you know, the way they pay the artists is fair and everything. It's better than you know, better to use band Camp than something like Spotify.

Speaker 2: Nothing against it, but but band Camp is the way to go. So I'm glad you guys are on there, and and I encourage everyone to check you out there.

Speaker 11: It's really great because I gotta check for six gig books from Spotify, so right, you know, but we appreciate the support, man, we really do. So if you ever need anything, just let us know.

Speaker 2: We'll send it to you absolutely absolutely all right, Danny from the Velt, Thank you so much, my friend, and I'm sure we'll talk. We'll talk again when the when it's signed for the album to come out. We'll definitely have you.

Speaker 11: Back on no doubt.

Speaker 2: Man, Please call me all right, you got it, brother, all right, take care, thanks man, Bye bye.

Speaker 8: All right.

Speaker 2: That was Danny from the Velt, and we're gonna play this again if you miss it at the top of the show. This is called brand New from the Velt. Oh and I should tell people too, for anyone who's looking up the Velt if you have any trouble finding because the way that the Velt is spelled, I should have asked him where the name comes from. Uh, totally didn't think of it. But V E l d T that is how you spell the Velt. V E l d T. And this is called Black Girl. This is inspired by the nineteen seventy two film of the same name.

Speaker 2: But this is really, like I said, atmospheric is the word that I would use to describe this. As cliche as that might sound, but it's interesting. You can kind of just close your eyes and get lost in it. This is called Black Girl, and this is the Velt.

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