Matt Connarton Unleashed 5-3-25 hour 2

0:00 Speaker 1: W m n H ripped the novels.

0:33 Speaker 2: So guitars, the doose, no one there to get cut up.

0:45 Speaker 1: Want to clean it up?

1:19 Speaker 3: Keep say away, stay out, just stay.

2:20 Speaker 4: Way back.

2:20 Speaker 5: Uh.

2:23 Speaker 6: They all.

2:27 Speaker 2: Walking bast the moment.

2:31 Speaker 4: That in every day.

3:06 Speaker 7: That is a scrape the dirt from the band Able

3:10 Speaker 7: Blood and the album arrival of the waves. And we've

3:12 Speaker 7: got Able Blood here with us live in studio on

3:16 Speaker 7: this Saturday morning here on Matt Condorton Unleashed. If you

3:18 Speaker 7: are listening live today is a Saturday, May third, twenty

3:23 Speaker 7: twenty five, and you get those mics up there, gentlemen,

3:27 Speaker 7: welcome back to the show.

3:28 Speaker 6: Hey Matt be thanks for having us.

3:31 Speaker 7: Absolutely absolutely so let's start for the uninitiated, for those

3:34 Speaker 7: who don't know Adam, let's start with you. Tell us

3:36 Speaker 7: who you are and what you do in the band.

3:37 Speaker 6: Please. I'm Adam. I play guitar and do the lead.

3:41 Speaker 7: Vocals, all right, and you, sir.

3:43 Speaker 8: Malcolm, I play guitar and I do face as well,

3:46 Speaker 8: all right, and you Jim, and I do drums caussion

3:51 Speaker 8: all right.

3:51 Speaker 6: Very good.

3:52 Speaker 7: And I'm going to just these cameras here for for

3:55 Speaker 7: those watching the stream online. But you guys have what's

3:58 Speaker 7: been going on since, because I know there's news right

4:02 Speaker 7: since the last time you were here. You guys always

4:05 Speaker 7: have a lot going on. It's cool, But I think

4:07 Speaker 7: the last time we had talked to you had just

4:09 Speaker 7: signed with the label. Is that correct?

4:11 Speaker 6: Yeah, we signed like a basically a distribution deal for

4:15 Speaker 6: Arrival of the Waves with Argonauta Records.

4:18 Speaker 7: Okay, And the result of that has been now you've

4:21 Speaker 7: released the album on CD.

4:23 Speaker 6: Correct, YEP came out yesterday?

4:25 Speaker 7: Actually, oh, congratulations, congratulations, And why the decision to do

4:30 Speaker 7: to do that? Because one of the things that comes

4:32 Speaker 7: up a lot on the show, and I'm sure we've

4:34 Speaker 7: talked about it before too, is physical media because obviously

4:40 Speaker 7: over the years, you know, in fact, I think I

4:42 Speaker 7: remember talking about this with you guys specifically back when,

4:46 Speaker 7: way back when I worked for Strawberries, which then of

4:49 Speaker 7: course became f YE, and people would people in the

4:54 Speaker 7: industry were talking about, oh, eventually CDs are going to

4:56 Speaker 7: go away and everything is going to be digital, especially

4:59 Speaker 7: when I was there when Napster came in, and then

5:03 Speaker 7: it was like, oh no, this is the beginning of

5:05 Speaker 7: the end, you know, and you know music is free

5:07 Speaker 7: now and and you just download it and and all

5:09 Speaker 7: that so and all the panic that was uh that

5:12 Speaker 7: was happening at that time. And then there was this

5:15 Speaker 7: kind of this period where, you know, when Spotify came

5:19 Speaker 7: in and everything and things kind of settled down. But

5:21 Speaker 7: then a lot of the guests that we would have

5:24 Speaker 7: on the show, for example, they were kind of done

5:25 Speaker 7: with uh, with CDs, and no one was doing vinyl.

5:29 Speaker 7: Vinyl apparently is very expensive, and it was just everything was,

5:33 Speaker 7: oh no, we're just putting our music online now, and

5:35 Speaker 7: that seemed to be the trend for a long time,

5:37 Speaker 7: and then in the past few years it seems like

5:39 Speaker 7: everybody now is really has recommitted to physical media.

5:44 Speaker 6: And people miss interacting with the music. Oh yeah, you know,

5:47 Speaker 6: like opening a case and reading the lyrics and seeing

5:50 Speaker 6: the artwork and yep, you know. So yeah, it's a

5:54 Speaker 6: sense they own it.

5:55 Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah. I always you know, when I was a

5:58 Speaker 7: kid and I first started buying music, I always loved

6:00 Speaker 7: looking at liner notes, especially if I was really into

6:02 Speaker 7: an artist. You know, I would geek out on just

6:05 Speaker 7: you know, I actually wanted to know the name of

6:06 Speaker 7: their management company and.

6:08 Speaker 6: Who did the artwork? Who did the artwork?

6:10 Speaker 7: Yeah, who was the engineer in the studio, all that

6:12 Speaker 7: kind of that kind of stuff that you know that

6:15 Speaker 7: most people wouldn't even care about, but I loved, you know,

6:17 Speaker 7: and if the lyrics were in there too, that was huge.

6:19 Speaker 7: It was like wow, you know, and we didn't have

6:22 Speaker 7: the Internet yet when I'm old enough to you know,

6:24 Speaker 7: my generation Gen X really the last generation to grow

6:27 Speaker 7: up without the Internet, so so it couldn't just look

6:30 Speaker 7: up lyrics, you know, if if you weren't sure, if

6:33 Speaker 7: you know, if you're hearing something correctly, you got to

6:35 Speaker 7: look at the liner notes, and if the lyrics aren't there,

6:37 Speaker 7: then you know, maybe ask your friends, Hey, what do

6:40 Speaker 7: you think he's saying there?

6:41 Speaker 6: I don't know what he's saying. I remember waiting, waiting

6:44 Speaker 6: in between songs on the radio, like just praying that

6:47 Speaker 6: your favorite song would come on, because there was no

6:50 Speaker 6: other way you're going to hear it unless you know,

6:52 Speaker 6: you had eight bucks or whatever seven ninety nine to

6:55 Speaker 6: go to this tape store and get it. Yeah, but

6:57 Speaker 6: you still had to wait. Oh yeah, Like now it's

6:59 Speaker 6: I just go on out music and it's on and

7:01 Speaker 6: I love that.

7:02 Speaker 7: Oh yeah.

7:02 Speaker 6: I love to be able to like scratch that itch

7:04 Speaker 6: when it comes. But yeah, just being able to actually

7:07 Speaker 6: have it is Oh, it is just yeah, so much

7:11 Speaker 6: more satisfying.

7:12 Speaker 7: Yeah.

7:13 Speaker 6: And then the old midnight releases.

7:15 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I was at Rocket Records at midnight when

7:18 Speaker 9: Sepulteur released Chaos.

7:20 Speaker 7: Ad No kidd Oh yeah, oh well that's cool.

7:22 Speaker 6: You still love that stuff?

7:24 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I do like the way things are

7:27 Speaker 7: now better though, because sometore, because every once in a while,

7:30 Speaker 7: I'll hear somebody say, you know, especially online, you see

7:32 Speaker 7: this stuff that's uh uh, I call it old man syndrome.

7:35 Speaker 7: You know, back in my day, everything was so much

7:37 Speaker 7: better because you know, as somebody will say, like, oh,

7:39 Speaker 7: I liked it better when I was a kid, you know,

7:41 Speaker 7: because it was everything was simpler, and you go to

7:44 Speaker 7: the record store and you you know, you'll you seek

7:47 Speaker 7: out stuff that looks interesting and whatnot. And I always say, yeah,

7:50 Speaker 7: I have wonderful memories of that myself. I'm old enough

7:52 Speaker 7: to remember that. But I wouldn't trade what we have

7:55 Speaker 7: now to go back to that. I mean, no, it's

7:58 Speaker 7: astonishing when you think about it. And again, and you know,

8:00 Speaker 7: people growing up now don't know, but what it was

8:04 Speaker 7: like before we had this but you know, now, if

8:07 Speaker 7: I want to hear something, I can hear it, don't.

8:11 Speaker 7: I don't have to look for it. I don't have

8:12 Speaker 7: to hope it comes on the radio. I can just

8:14 Speaker 7: go online and get it and there it is there.

8:17 Speaker 6: Yeah.

8:17 Speaker 7: You know, we've never had we never had this level

8:19 Speaker 7: of instant gratification, and there may be some negative effects

8:24 Speaker 7: with that in terms of people just valuing music less

8:26 Speaker 7: and so forth, because it's so easily accessible. And I

8:28 Speaker 7: understand that, but still I wouldn't. I wouldn't trade where

8:31 Speaker 7: we have now.

8:31 Speaker 6: To go back. I'm still love vinyl though. Yes, I'm

8:34 Speaker 6: a huge Vinyl.

8:35 Speaker 7: Yeah.

8:36 Speaker 8: I'll go down rabbit holes where I'll just remember songs, yes,

8:39 Speaker 8: from high school and oh that makes me think of

8:42 Speaker 8: this song, and then that makes me think of this song,

8:44 Speaker 8: next thing, you know, and more albums.

8:46 Speaker 6: I do it when I'm talking to people. I'll be like, yeah,

8:49 Speaker 6: you know, you ever heard this song? You ever heard

8:51 Speaker 6: this song? And then I have to give people ten

8:53 Speaker 6: second clips of because I can just pull them up

8:55 Speaker 6: on my phone and be like, oh, you have to

8:57 Speaker 6: hear this yep, yeah, you know, even if they care

8:59 Speaker 6: or not, Yeah, but do you remember hearing it.

9:01 Speaker 8: Do you remember the days of like when you're going

9:03 Speaker 8: on a road trip or going somewhere, you had to

9:06 Speaker 8: you had to kind of pick and choose what you

9:08 Speaker 8: were bringing with you, you know.

9:09 Speaker 6: And you get all the CDs and yeah organized and

9:13 Speaker 6: put them on underneath the sun visor. Yeah yeah.

9:16 Speaker 8: When when the biggest seller marshals was those freaking CD organizers.

9:20 Speaker 7: Oh yeah yeah yeah. Who didn't have those? Yeah yeah?

9:24 Speaker 9: And how dangerous was it driving down the road trying

9:26 Speaker 9: to fish through CDs?

9:28 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah. I almost wonder if there's fewer car

9:33 Speaker 7: accidents now statistically for that reason.

9:36 Speaker 6: You used to. I used to have a cardboard box

9:40 Speaker 6: full of tapes without the cases, really like grab it

9:43 Speaker 6: from the back seat, put it on the front seat

9:45 Speaker 6: and dig through it and then just put it, you know,

9:47 Speaker 6: and then put them in the tape player. So yeah,

9:49 Speaker 6: I was way more distracted then.

9:51 Speaker 9: Yeah, I totally would be now. I totally miss rewinding

9:54 Speaker 9: tapes to hear the song on wander.

9:57 Speaker 6: It was always the best when the best songs were

9:59 Speaker 6: the first and last on a tape, because then you

10:01 Speaker 6: could just flip it.

10:02 Speaker 7: Yeah, easy to find them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, those those

10:06 Speaker 7: were the days. Was it always from when you guys

10:11 Speaker 7: first recorded Arrival of the Waves. Was it always your

10:14 Speaker 7: intention to eventually do a CD or we.

10:16 Speaker 6: Were like probably more like wanted to do vinyl probably more,

10:20 Speaker 6: but this was this was a an easy quick way

10:24 Speaker 6: to get get them out and starting. It is very expensive. Yeah,

10:30 Speaker 6: and people are buying CDs again, so it's it's it.

10:34 Speaker 6: I think it's a fair trait. You know it. People

10:36 Speaker 6: are gonna will be purchasing this, I know it.

10:39 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's surprising to me at shows the amount of

10:42 Speaker 8: people we see asking for CDs buying them from other bands.

10:45 Speaker 8: Because we're a little lazy as a band when it

10:48 Speaker 8: comes to merch.

10:50 Speaker 6: We never put March out. We bring it sometimes and

10:53 Speaker 6: then we don't put it out, and then sometimes we

10:57 Speaker 6: don't even like we'll remember like, oh did anybody think

10:59 Speaker 6: about bringing the merch and when we're already at the show.

11:02 Speaker 8: Yeah, so yeah, we got to get way better about that. Well,

11:05 Speaker 8: we we're kind of forced to.

11:07 Speaker 10: Yeah, there's some able blood on the walls of Matt's office.

11:11 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely there is. Yeah, absolutely,

11:16 Speaker 7: we should take pictures and put that online.

11:18 Speaker 6: Actually see that.

11:20 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yep, we got we got your stuff. Hanging.

11:24 Speaker 8: It's kind of a game between bands when you play

11:26 Speaker 8: venues like in Boston to find your buddy sticker and

11:30 Speaker 8: take a picture of it.

11:30 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, totally, totally, yep, yep. The tricky thing about

11:34 Speaker 7: merch because we had I don't know if you know

11:35 Speaker 7: Echo Ray the rock and Redhead, I've heard the name. Okay,

11:39 Speaker 7: she was on the show with us recently, and you

11:41 Speaker 7: know she does she does the merch for for some

11:43 Speaker 7: bands like Wale Wolf James. You know she helps because

11:46 Speaker 7: she was up you know, at shows she helps to

11:48 Speaker 7: sell it. Because she was saying, and it's interesting, I've

11:51 Speaker 7: never really thought about this before, this specific thing, but

11:54 Speaker 7: she was talking about how a lot of bands miss

11:56 Speaker 7: out on selling merch because the best time to make

12:00 Speaker 7: a sale if someone wants to buy your T shirt

12:02 Speaker 7: or your seed or whatever if you're playing a live show,

12:05 Speaker 7: is right when you get off stage. That's when that's

12:07 Speaker 7: when they're like, yeah, I want I want something of theirs.

12:10 Speaker 7: I want to get a shirt, or I want to

12:12 Speaker 7: buy that CD, or or at least get a sticker

12:14 Speaker 7: or something. Right. But the problem is if you don't

12:17 Speaker 7: have somebody with you to handle the merch sales, then

12:20 Speaker 7: you're missing out because when you're done playing, unless you're

12:23 Speaker 7: the last band on you, you probably got a hurry

12:26 Speaker 7: because an ex band's got to get on. Yeah, and

12:29 Speaker 7: every second that's ticking by while you're busy breaking down

12:33 Speaker 7: your stuff and trying to get off stage, the interest

12:36 Speaker 7: is is waning. You know that that person who maybe

12:39 Speaker 7: when you first finished your show, was like, oh, I

12:41 Speaker 7: got to get something.

12:41 Speaker 6: And then they're like, I'll get a beer.

12:43 Speaker 7: I'll go yeah, exactly, exactly, yeah, yeah, And I'd never

12:47 Speaker 7: thought of it that way until she pointed that out,

12:49 Speaker 7: But she's absolutely right. So that can be a that

12:52 Speaker 7: can be a real challenge for a lot of dans.

12:54 Speaker 8: We will have a merch person for our next couple

12:56 Speaker 8: of shows.

12:56 Speaker 7: Excellent, excellent, our next.

12:58 Speaker 6: Show, though we won't actually have physical CDs because they're

13:01 Speaker 6: not going to show up here until May ninth. Okay,

13:04 Speaker 6: but you can order them online through the Argonauta website

13:08 Speaker 6: now and they will actually send them to you right away.

13:12 Speaker 6: Oh perfect. You can buy them from us too in

13:16 Speaker 6: a couple of days, yeah, which will be for us

13:19 Speaker 6: more beneficial. But I wouldn't tell you not to go

13:21 Speaker 6: to arnaut because they helped us out a ton, right,

13:25 Speaker 6: you know, buying it from there is also good.

13:27 Speaker 7: I think the last time, the last time you guys

13:31 Speaker 7: were on the show, I think you had just signed

13:32 Speaker 7: that distribution deal.

13:33 Speaker 6: Was Yeah, it was we signed it back in September.

13:36 Speaker 7: Okay, Okay. And then are they so are they putting

13:42 Speaker 7: the CD in stores or is it more online distribution

13:46 Speaker 7: or I.

13:47 Speaker 6: Don't know what they're doing in Italy. I know that

13:51 Speaker 6: they've got it up on their website.

13:54 Speaker 7: Is that where they're from.

13:54 Speaker 6: Yeah, they're out of Italy, So what they're doing in Europe,

13:58 Speaker 6: I have no idea, to be honest with you. Probably

14:01 Speaker 6: should ask some more questions about that. Here my plan is,

14:06 Speaker 6: and I've got a couple of record stores already, like

14:08 Speaker 6: bull Moose has said that they'll sell it, and then

14:10 Speaker 6: I've talked to Infectious Grooves over in Amherst Cool and uh,

14:15 Speaker 6: there's a few other places that are interested in selling it.

14:18 Speaker 6: So I'm just going to bring them, bring them to

14:21 Speaker 6: them and put physical copies in the stores. And then

14:23 Speaker 6: we're gonna have we have a band camp page. Yeah,

14:25 Speaker 6: and so we'll sell merch off of that because when

14:27 Speaker 6: we're getting T shirts done and all that so we're

14:29 Speaker 6: going to have that stuff up on our band camp

14:31 Speaker 6: page really shortly.

14:33 Speaker 7: Excellent, excellent if you are just joining us, we have

14:37 Speaker 7: able Blood here with us live in studio. And yeah,

14:40 Speaker 7: that's another thing too that has survived is music stores,

14:43 Speaker 7: you know, record stores, and because that's another thing people

14:46 Speaker 7: thought was just going to go away, you know and eventually,

14:49 Speaker 7: but but they're still here.

14:52 Speaker 6: You google just New England record stores and the list

14:55 Speaker 6: is huge.

14:56 Speaker 7: Yeah. Huge. Yeah.

14:57 Speaker 9: I think Vinyl keeps it alive, big time. The set

15:00 Speaker 9: tapes are actually making a comeback, so yeah, funny.

15:03 Speaker 8: A lot of bands are releasing singles and stuff on that.

15:06 Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, well, funny thing about cassettes. It was I

15:09 Speaker 7: think it was about five or six years ago. I

15:10 Speaker 7: may have talked with you guys about this before. I'm

15:12 Speaker 7: not sure I've told this story a bunch of times.

15:14 Speaker 7: But I was on I was on band camp actually,

15:17 Speaker 7: I was just looking for for bands in the area

15:19 Speaker 7: and I stumbled upon I think the first one I found.

15:22 Speaker 7: I don't remember who they were, but they were like

15:24 Speaker 7: a like a super indie band from Keene, uh probably

15:28 Speaker 7: Keen State College students and uh. And I noticed they

15:31 Speaker 7: were selling cassettes. And at first I thought it was

15:34 Speaker 7: a joke. I was like, what, they have a cassette?

15:37 Speaker 7: And I thought maybe it was just a novelty that

15:39 Speaker 7: they just decided to do for the hell of it.

15:41 Speaker 7: And then I realized as I'm looking around there were

15:44 Speaker 7: I was finding more and more bands that were doing cassettes,

15:47 Speaker 7: and I was like, oh my god, is this real.

15:49 Speaker 8: I think it's really inexpensive to do. I haven't probably

15:52 Speaker 8: do it recently, but probably yeah. And you can record

15:55 Speaker 8: at home with a little task cam, yeah, you know.

15:57 Speaker 8: And I even looked up the prices of those things.

15:59 Speaker 8: Those things are the roof? Are they four tracks and

16:02 Speaker 8: eight track recorders? Yeah, I have, like you can pay

16:05 Speaker 8: hundreds of dollars for these things.

16:06 Speaker 6: Now.

16:06 Speaker 7: Yeah, I had one back in the day. It probably

16:08 Speaker 7: cost me one hundred bucks.

16:09 Speaker 6: I think maybe. Yeah, yeah, they're they're worth way more

16:12 Speaker 6: than that now.

16:12 Speaker 7: No kidding. Interesting. Interesting, but yeah, it was stunned to

16:16 Speaker 7: see that cassettes and I was like, well, I mean wow,

16:19 Speaker 7: and then uh, you know, but but as somebody who

16:22 Speaker 7: buys one of those, they probably most people probably never

16:25 Speaker 7: play them. They just if you're really a fan of

16:26 Speaker 7: that artist, you know, right, if you don't even have

16:28 Speaker 7: anything to right.

16:29 Speaker 6: Which goes back to people want something that they feel

16:32 Speaker 6: they own.

16:32 Speaker 7: Exactly, yeah, exactly. We actually have a this is relatively

16:38 Speaker 7: new to the station, a record player here that we

16:41 Speaker 7: can plug in. It actually belongs to one of the

16:44 Speaker 7: guys who does a show here, Ryan Sherman, but he

16:46 Speaker 7: brought it in and he put a sticker on it

16:48 Speaker 7: that said, you know, anyone can use it, So we

16:50 Speaker 7: actually have that option. And we've always had a CD player.

16:52 Speaker 7: I think Rob as a Vito of Granted State of

16:55 Speaker 7: Mind is the only one who actually uses it. But

16:56 Speaker 7: we do have a CD player here that that is functional.

16:59 Speaker 7: It does work. But but uh but yeah, to see cassettes, uh,

17:05 Speaker 7: you know, coming back was was really shocking. That's something

17:09 Speaker 7: we definitely do not have here as a cassette player.

17:11 Speaker 9: I'd love to release our album on eight track. I

17:13 Speaker 9: think that would be really cool.

17:15 Speaker 6: Yeah, it would be a way to have nobody but

17:18 Speaker 6: let's throw that money away.

17:20 Speaker 7: Right in the middle of a song, it.

17:22 Speaker 6: Clicks so that I had to go to the next track.

17:24 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that would be that would be fun.

17:27 Speaker 6: Program.

17:30 Speaker 7: When I was a kid, I had do you guys

17:31 Speaker 7: remember to XL. It was a little robot but it played,

17:36 Speaker 7: but it played eight track takes.

17:37 Speaker 6: I do remember that, yeah, yeah, yeah.

17:40 Speaker 8: That was my first stereo was the Yorks all in one.

17:42 Speaker 8: They had the record player, cassette player, eight track really

17:47 Speaker 8: a MFM, and I remember I got a bunch of

17:49 Speaker 8: eight tracks for Christmas one year. And it's obvious my

17:52 Speaker 8: my father just grabbed him from the bargain bin. But

17:54 Speaker 8: there was some cool stuff in there.

17:55 Speaker 6: Really.

17:56 Speaker 8: Yeah, I got into ten CC because of that.

17:58 Speaker 7: Oh no kidding.

17:59 Speaker 10: I think my dad got mine from sears.

18:01 Speaker 7: Really.

18:02 Speaker 9: I actually have a working eight track at home, you do.

18:04 Speaker 9: I got a big console record player with radio and

18:08 Speaker 9: eight track and it all works.

18:10 Speaker 6: I even have Black Sabbath. We sold our soul over

18:12 Speaker 6: rock and roll on eight tracks.

18:13 Speaker 1: Wow.

18:14 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it plays perfect.

18:16 Speaker 7: Does it?

18:17 Speaker 6: Yeah?

18:17 Speaker 10: Why did they call it eight track? Does it only

18:20 Speaker 10: hold eight songs? Or was it because of the no recording?

18:24 Speaker 7: Well there's because there's only four tracks, right, But I

18:27 Speaker 7: guess if there's only four songs, No, there's only no,

18:30 Speaker 7: but there's only four there's only four not I don't

18:33 Speaker 7: recording tracks?

18:34 Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay.

18:36 Speaker 7: Like you'll have more than one song on a track.

18:38 Speaker 7: But it's but but I think, but do they call

18:41 Speaker 7: it eight track because it's stereo? Is it? So it's

18:44 Speaker 7: four it's four tracks, but they're stereo, so it's eight tracks.

18:48 Speaker 7: I could google it now, but now I've actually always

18:52 Speaker 7: kind of wondered that myself, like why they call it?

18:54 Speaker 7: Why they call it?

18:55 Speaker 10: I asked all the weird questions.

18:56 Speaker 6: No, that's actually great.

18:58 Speaker 5: It is.

18:58 Speaker 6: Actually that is an ever thought of it.

19:00 Speaker 7: That is a great question. I'm going to google it.

19:03 Speaker 7: I'm going to google it on my phone. I'm really curious,

19:05 Speaker 7: all right.

19:05 Speaker 6: Or challenge a listener to call in learning, Yeah, Learning

19:08 Speaker 6: with the able one call and tell us what why

19:11 Speaker 6: it's called an eight track?

19:12 Speaker 10: Like that learning with Abel Blood.

19:14 Speaker 7: Why is it called an eight track?

19:16 Speaker 10: You guys are close to the five Timers Club.

19:19 Speaker 7: Yeah, you guys will got to be like on the.

19:21 Speaker 10: Show at least four times now.

19:23 Speaker 6: I think this is our fourth time. I've been twice.

19:25 Speaker 6: I've actually been on with Matt. This is my fifth time. Oh,

19:29 Speaker 6: I was in a band ten or fifteen years ago,

19:31 Speaker 6: so i'd make the five timer today.

19:33 Speaker 1: Yeah.

19:35 Speaker 6: We were a band called Buck fifty five and we

19:36 Speaker 6: went up when Matt was in Franklin.

19:39 Speaker 10: Now you don't play the air horn the airhorn air

19:43 Speaker 10: horn moment, I forgot about the airhorn. Five timers club

19:45 Speaker 10: is an air horn.

19:46 Speaker 7: I haven't used the airhorn in so long, so it

19:49 Speaker 7: says here. An a track tape is called an eight

19:51 Speaker 7: track because it contains eight parallel tracks of magnetic tape each.

19:56 Speaker 7: Each tape has four programs of music, with two tracks

20:00 Speaker 7: left and right channels on each program totally eight tracks.

20:04 Speaker 7: So I was my theory, was.

20:06 Speaker 6: You your right? So I would give you the points?

20:08 Speaker 7: Yeah sort of, yeah, I would. I would take the points.

20:12 Speaker 7: I would accept those points. I think I was kind

20:14 Speaker 7: of right. The format allowed half a point half a point.

20:18 Speaker 7: This format allowed for stereo sound to be recorded and

20:21 Speaker 7: played back. Okay, so there you go. That's why it's

20:24 Speaker 7: called that.

20:25 Speaker 10: Yes it did involve stereo.

20:26 Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, yes, yes yes. Do you guys plan to

20:31 Speaker 7: do vinyl or are you undecided?

20:32 Speaker 6: Or we would love to? Yeah, it's just coming up

20:35 Speaker 6: with the right amount of money and time yeah to

20:37 Speaker 6: do so oh yeah yeah.

20:39 Speaker 8: Jimmy mentions it about once every week. Really, I do

20:43 Speaker 8: because I want to copy so bad.

20:45 Speaker 7: Yeah, now that would be pretty cool. I mean nothing

20:47 Speaker 7: sounds better than vinyl.

20:48 Speaker 6: It's warm, it's it's just you know, absolutely now.

20:51 Speaker 7: You guys would sound would sound amazing on a vinyl record?

20:54 Speaker 7: Is that?

20:54 Speaker 6: Like?

20:54 Speaker 7: Does Argonauta do they do? They do though?

20:56 Speaker 6: Oh sure, yeah, sure, yeah they want to do so

20:59 Speaker 6: I'm right now, are our following isn't as big as

21:03 Speaker 6: we'd like it to be and as big as I

21:05 Speaker 6: think it will be eventually. So they wanted to do

21:08 Speaker 6: CD first, oh and and until we built up an audience,

21:11 Speaker 6: and then vinyl is definitely on the table.

21:14 Speaker 7: Yeah.

21:15 Speaker 6: At that point, you know, if we sell out of

21:17 Speaker 6: these CDs, I think we've got a pretty strong case.

21:21 Speaker 7: Good good, Now, how did you connect with them? How

21:23 Speaker 7: did that? How did that come out?

21:24 Speaker 6: I just hit the contact us button on their website

21:27 Speaker 6: for real, Yeah yeah, And I sent them a streaming

21:30 Speaker 6: link and they wrote back to me a few days later.

21:32 Speaker 6: I did it. I got on this kick last summer

21:35 Speaker 6: and I sent it out to a bunch of labels

21:37 Speaker 6: and they came back and was like, this is exactly

21:40 Speaker 6: with the offer that we wanted, you know, because we

21:43 Speaker 6: all got mortgages to pay, so we can't we can't

21:45 Speaker 6: go on tour really, you know, we can do periodic

21:48 Speaker 6: stuff out of the area. But and they were you know,

21:52 Speaker 6: the way we worked it out, we get to keep

21:54 Speaker 6: the rights to the songs. Yeah, and we don't. They're

21:57 Speaker 6: not expecting us to tour. This is basically just, hey,

22:00 Speaker 6: we're going to distribute, distribute this for you, and you know,

22:04 Speaker 6: we'll go after everybody's happy. In two years, we'll figure

22:07 Speaker 6: it out what we're going to do next.

22:08 Speaker 7: Oh very cool. Yeah yeah, yeah excellent. So there's a

22:11 Speaker 7: possibility of releasing another album through them, and.

22:13 Speaker 6: Oh definitely definitely. Yeah.

22:15 Speaker 7: Yeah, if you guys already, are you already working on

22:18 Speaker 7: new stuff?

22:19 Speaker 6: We've got some new stuff we've been working on over yeah,

22:21 Speaker 6: over the winter. We've got pretty much two finished songs

22:25 Speaker 6: and another two bare bones like that we're starting to

22:29 Speaker 6: work on now.

22:30 Speaker 7: So yeah, yeah, yeah, excellent.

22:32 Speaker 6: Yeah, so we've just been pushing Rival of the Waves

22:35 Speaker 6: as much as we can.

22:36 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, is the is the cover? I assume the

22:40 Speaker 7: cover is the same on the physical CD as it

22:42 Speaker 7: is on band camp. Yeah okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I

22:44 Speaker 7: really like the cover. I find myself because I have

22:46 Speaker 7: it pulled up here, I find myself just kind of

22:47 Speaker 7: staring at it.

22:48 Speaker 6: I love the blues in there like that, you know.

22:52 Speaker 6: And it's fun because now I can tell people when

22:54 Speaker 6: when I'm in you know, telling them, hey, I'm in

22:56 Speaker 6: a band, blah blah blah, you know, the typical and

22:59 Speaker 6: and I'll be like, don't listen to the Red, listen

23:01 Speaker 6: to the Blue, or listen to the Red because it

23:02 Speaker 6: has this song on it. But I call them the

23:04 Speaker 6: Red the Blue song albums. I do love the baroness.

23:09 Speaker 6: Did that when you guys posted it up? Yeah? Yeah, nice?

23:13 Speaker 7: Who did that?

23:16 Speaker 6: Who did the oh? The cover? I did the artwork

23:19 Speaker 6: for the cover. You did the artwork?

23:20 Speaker 7: That's right, Okay, that's right. I remember talking about that.

23:23 Speaker 6: Yeah.

23:23 Speaker 10: Yeah, did you do it all digital? Did it come

23:25 Speaker 10: from like a painting or a drawing or something that

23:27 Speaker 10: you did?

23:28 Speaker 8: It was a rough sketch that was it was literally

23:31 Speaker 8: like like stick figure.

23:33 Speaker 6: Yeah, put into AI and like people on AI.

23:37 Speaker 8: But it helps people that aren't. I don't know, I'm

23:40 Speaker 8: not like, I can't I get you. You have a

23:43 Speaker 8: lot of fun with it.

23:44 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, absolutely no, I think that's I think that's

23:48 Speaker 7: very cool. What was the You also had the cover

23:53 Speaker 7: for oh yeah, yelephant one face with the Elephant keeping

24:01 Speaker 7: with the Red One.

24:02 Speaker 6: Yeah, the Red One, the Red album.

24:04 Speaker 7: I like that one too. Did you do that cover?

24:06 Speaker 6: Our old bass player actually did that album cover?

24:08 Speaker 7: Oh really? Yeah? Yeah, okay, yeah that was pretty cool too.

24:13 Speaker 8: Who he's coming back to join us?

24:15 Speaker 6: Yes? Really a recording with us?

24:18 Speaker 7: Oh wow?

24:19 Speaker 6: We got invited to do a HIGHUS cover album. Really yeah,

24:25 Speaker 6: So we're going to do what we'd be doing a

24:26 Speaker 6: track for. It is this guy or this magazine. I

24:30 Speaker 6: don't know where they're located. I haven't done a lot

24:31 Speaker 6: of research on him. It's called Witching Buzz. Okay, so

24:35 Speaker 6: it's like an online magazine.

24:36 Speaker 7: Okay.

24:37 Speaker 6: He's putting together a twenty song compilation of all Kias covers.

24:40 Speaker 7: No kidding.

24:41 Speaker 6: Yeah, we got invited to do that, and so we

24:43 Speaker 6: asked him if he wanted to do the recording with us,

24:45 Speaker 6: and he was like hell yeah, okay. Yeah.

24:48 Speaker 7: So so he's not coming back to the band permanently,

24:50 Speaker 7: but just.

24:50 Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, but he's gonna do that. He's

24:52 Speaker 6: going to record the track with us.

24:53 Speaker 7: Okay, Oh, very cool.

24:54 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're excited.

24:55 Speaker 7: Any kind of a timetable on that or August we

24:59 Speaker 7: have to have it in Okay, okay, when it's going

25:02 Speaker 7: to get released, okay, And what's.

25:04 Speaker 6: The name of the magazine, Witching Buzz?

25:06 Speaker 7: I'll have to look that up. Yeah, well that's interesting.

25:09 Speaker 7: That's very cool. That's very cool. We should talk too

25:13 Speaker 7: about how does uh And again, I'm fascinated by this

25:17 Speaker 7: kind of thing. We've talked about it before, but newer

25:19 Speaker 7: listeners UH may not know. The way that you guys

25:22 Speaker 7: handle the bass situation is really interesting to me. And

25:27 Speaker 7: I wish I could remember who it was we had

25:30 Speaker 7: somebody else on the show who did something similar to

25:32 Speaker 7: what you guys do. It might come to me.

25:35 Speaker 10: I don't know if you guys know this, but you

25:37 Speaker 10: come up on the show a lot. Really, Yeah, yes,

25:40 Speaker 10: we hear your name a lot.

25:41 Speaker 7: Yeah, guys, you guys do. Your name comes up on

25:44 Speaker 7: the show quite a bit.

25:45 Speaker 6: Well, that's fun. We're finally one of the cool kids.

25:47 Speaker 5: Ye.

25:49 Speaker 6: Well, I don't know.

25:49 Speaker 7: I don't know if I'm one of the cool kids,

25:51 Speaker 7: so me saying your name might not be.

25:52 Speaker 6: Oh, it's definitely cool, all right.

25:54 Speaker 10: I can't honestly tell you how many people, how many

25:57 Speaker 10: bands and artists we've had in here. Yeah, I've brought

26:00 Speaker 10: you guys up.

26:00 Speaker 7: It's Yeah, your name does come up a lot. Your

26:03 Speaker 7: name does come up a lot. I wish I could

26:04 Speaker 7: remember who else it was who had a similar setup.

26:09 Speaker 6: Say Trading Tombstones. They do it.

26:11 Speaker 7: We had them on the show. I think that that

26:13 Speaker 7: must be it. I'm pretty sure that's it. Yep.

26:15 Speaker 6: Those guys are awesome. Yeah, I love them.

26:17 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, amazing. But can you describe for us

26:20 Speaker 7: how you how you do that again?

26:23 Speaker 6: Oh? Sure.

26:23 Speaker 8: It's so we're using an A B Y pedal that

26:26 Speaker 8: it can be either A B or both.

26:29 Speaker 6: So that comes.

26:30 Speaker 8: Uh, we have one line coming out of the guitar

26:32 Speaker 8: into that it splits the signal, so one signal goes

26:36 Speaker 8: into for both of us. One signal goes into a

26:38 Speaker 8: regular guitar pedal board then out into a guitar amp.

26:41 Speaker 8: Second signal splits into an octave pedal, so it drops

26:45 Speaker 8: the signal you know, two octaves, and then into a

26:48 Speaker 8: bass amp. So it's it's limiting in it like we've

26:54 Speaker 8: got them set up to where they only track. It's

26:55 Speaker 8: the boss oc five pedal, which is incredible. Yeah, you

26:59 Speaker 8: can set it up to try at the lowest two

27:00 Speaker 8: notes up down to the lowest two notes of anything

27:03 Speaker 8: you play, and it's limiting in that, you know, it's

27:09 Speaker 8: just tracking bass notes for all the chords, but it

27:12 Speaker 8: puts up an absolute wall of sound. Yeah, really does.

27:16 Speaker 8: It's it's jarring sometimes when it picks in. It took

27:19 Speaker 8: a little bit to get used to it. And then

27:21 Speaker 8: if we play a show where someone's backlining that's got

27:24 Speaker 8: a serious bass rig, it's yeah, it's like but yeah, bands.

27:29 Speaker 6: Joke about kicking their bass players out and doing the

27:32 Speaker 6: same thing.

27:32 Speaker 7: Yeah.

27:34 Speaker 8: Yeah, we're putting bass players out of work, and we

27:40 Speaker 8: we got we got the inspiration from I think Local

27:44 Speaker 8: h was the first band I heard that did that,

27:47 Speaker 8: and I guess what they did. That guy had like

27:49 Speaker 8: a separate bass pick up with a separate output on

27:52 Speaker 8: his guitar. But there's a band called Telekinetic Yetty that

27:55 Speaker 8: does it. It's just a two piece band.

27:57 Speaker 6: And I've heard the name, but I don't really actually

27:59 Speaker 6: played over across the street not that long ago.

28:02 Speaker 7: It might be why I heard the name. Yeah, so

28:03 Speaker 7: they do that.

28:04 Speaker 6: Ye oh yeah. That was actually like the real inspiration

28:08 Speaker 6: for us to do it. Yeah, was because of them. Okay,

28:11 Speaker 6: like all right, these guys are doing it, we can

28:13 Speaker 6: try it, let's let's give it a shot. Yeah. Yeah,

28:16 Speaker 6: you know, after a few maybe a month or two

28:19 Speaker 6: of really practicing and practicing and it really started to

28:23 Speaker 6: feel comfortable, so he just kept it doing it.

28:27 Speaker 7: Does anything ever go wrong with that live? Like where

28:29 Speaker 7: you go?

28:30 Speaker 8: That's not other than one of you know, occasionally forgetting

28:33 Speaker 8: to kick both signals on.

28:34 Speaker 6: Ye yeah, yeah, it is just yeah, not hitting the

28:39 Speaker 6: pedal the right yeah, both on the same time.

28:42 Speaker 9: So but when we played Maryland Doomfest last year, yeah,

28:46 Speaker 9: literally the bass.

28:47 Speaker 6: Was rattling my my, my rib cage. Wow. Awesome. Yeah,

28:53 Speaker 6: to do with the with the guy that was doing

28:55 Speaker 6: the sound there. Really, oh man, he was amazing.

28:58 Speaker 7: Really. Yeah, that's cool because he never know what you're

29:00 Speaker 7: getting with those festivals, right right far Yeah yeah.

29:05 Speaker 6: And yeah, this guy knew exactly what he was doing.

29:07 Speaker 6: And when he came back over, I was I was

29:09 Speaker 6: unsure whether he even thought were a good band or

29:12 Speaker 6: something or anything, you know, because he was in a rush.

29:14 Speaker 6: He's a pretty lunchy guy, and he was, you know,

29:17 Speaker 6: kind of short with his answers and stuff. Yeah, but

29:19 Speaker 6: he came back over and I said, hey, thanks man,

29:21 Speaker 6: that sounded phenomenal and he goes, you guys are absolutely incredible,

29:26 Speaker 6: and I was just like it was the biggest compliment

29:28 Speaker 6: from a guy that was a very few words, you know. Yeah,

29:31 Speaker 6: and he was just like complimenting as well. He's like

29:34 Speaker 6: trying to get us off the stage.

29:36 Speaker 8: That was a great experience and that like we got

29:38 Speaker 8: on that last minute and we got literally the first

29:41 Speaker 8: band the first day Thursday at like four fifteen were

29:44 Speaker 8: playing Yeah, and it was you know, and you got

29:47 Speaker 8: to think, this guy's got what sixty three bands, he's

29:49 Speaker 8: got to get on and off a stage over the court.

29:52 Speaker 6: Yeah.

29:52 Speaker 8: Yeah, because they they one of the it was a

29:55 Speaker 8: two venue festival for a while, they canceled one venue

29:58 Speaker 8: like last minute. Yeah, so they had to cram everybody

30:01 Speaker 8: into two stages on this one place that you know,

30:04 Speaker 8: once one band ended on one stage, there was a

30:06 Speaker 8: five minute window where the next band would go on on.

30:09 Speaker 6: A second stage.

30:10 Speaker 8: But I mean, we're kind of tooting our on horn here,

30:12 Speaker 8: but it felt great that to go there and we're

30:15 Speaker 8: just like I don't care when we're all like, I

30:17 Speaker 8: don't care when we're on.

30:18 Speaker 6: We're just gonna cry. We just want to do the

30:19 Speaker 6: we can.

30:20 Speaker 7: Yeah.

30:20 Speaker 8: Yeah, And they invited us back this year, gave us

30:23 Speaker 8: a Friday night slot and excellent.

30:26 Speaker 6: I literally was wheeling my bass lamp out the door. Yeah,

30:30 Speaker 6: and the the promoter that ran the whole thing opened

30:34 Speaker 6: the door, walked outside with me and he's like, you

30:37 Speaker 6: guys were the first to play. He's like everybody, like

30:40 Speaker 6: every someone has to start the festival. Yeah, and he

30:42 Speaker 6: goes and you guys didn't complain and you guys just

30:46 Speaker 6: nailed it. He's like, you're invited back next year. I

30:49 Speaker 6: had goosebumps. Yeah, Like it was just like the nicest

30:51 Speaker 6: thing for him to say. You know, that's what you do.

30:54 Speaker 6: I mean, you just go and you don't complain. You

30:57 Speaker 6: play as hard as you can, no matter what your situation.

31:00 Speaker 6: Like that's a big you know, like like stage to

31:04 Speaker 6: be able to get on. Yeah, I don't care what

31:07 Speaker 6: time we were going on, Like, I don't care if

31:09 Speaker 6: we had to play two hours before the next band,

31:11 Speaker 6: you know, in the afternoon. It was like we were

31:13 Speaker 6: going to go when we were going to rocket as

31:14 Speaker 6: hard as we could. Yeah, and it got us a

31:16 Speaker 6: spot immediately invited back. It's five minutes of being off stage,

31:20 Speaker 6: but we have four new England bands that are going

31:23 Speaker 6: to be there this year. Oh so dust Profits going

31:26 Speaker 6: to be there. Oh yeah, Benthic Realm from Worcester, those

31:30 Speaker 6: guys are insane. Coma Hole is going to be there,

31:33 Speaker 6: Toma Hole from Rhode Island is going to be I

31:35 Speaker 6: don't know them, Versa they're from Connecticut. They're going to

31:37 Speaker 6: be there, ursay. Yeah, so it's five five New England bands,

31:41 Speaker 6: like yeah, yeah.

31:42 Speaker 7: The only one I'm really familiar with of those is

31:44 Speaker 7: Dust Profit. I used to be in a band with

31:46 Speaker 7: Auto years ago, but I love Dust Profit.

31:49 Speaker 10: Yeah, but it's my favorite.

31:51 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah.

31:52 Speaker 6: Yeah.

31:52 Speaker 8: They've been awesome with us too, like as far as

31:55 Speaker 8: like when we started doing shows, they got us on

31:57 Speaker 8: a lot of shows.

31:58 Speaker 6: We've done a lot of work. We try to cross promote,

32:01 Speaker 6: Like I see a dust Profit flyer, I'm posting it

32:03 Speaker 6: on my pages and Auto does the same thing for us.

32:06 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, So it's it's it's nice to be helpful

32:10 Speaker 6: like that with other bands.

32:11 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, totally, totally. Yeah, and Auto is Auto is amazing.

32:15 Speaker 6: Yeah.

32:16 Speaker 8: He great story about Otto. We saw we did a

32:18 Speaker 8: show with them at Jewel Yeah. And you know how

32:21 Speaker 8: that that that ventilation duct is right in the front

32:24 Speaker 8: of jewel. I saw him bounce his head off that

32:27 Speaker 8: and not miss a beat. Keeps saying that and just.

32:30 Speaker 6: Just rubbing his head. Yeah, but he didn't miss a

32:33 Speaker 6: beat the showing on. Yeah, good on him. Yeah, I

32:36 Speaker 6: can take a punch.

32:36 Speaker 7: Absolutely absolutely if you're just joining us out. We've got

32:40 Speaker 7: able Blood here with us live in studio and h

32:44 Speaker 7: are you guys? So you playing a lot of shows?

32:47 Speaker 7: It sounds like you've been pretty busy.

32:48 Speaker 6: Busy planned. Yeah, this summer. We've got eight or ten

32:53 Speaker 6: shows on the books right now. Yeah, we're trying to

32:56 Speaker 6: do like twice a month at this point. Yeah, we're

32:58 Speaker 6: pretty much there. Yeah, you know, nothing in December yet,

33:02 Speaker 6: but we're booked all the way out till November.

33:04 Speaker 1: Yeah.

33:05 Speaker 7: Good, Yeah, very good, very good? Is there? Like, do

33:08 Speaker 7: you guys have a favorite place or any favorite places

33:11 Speaker 7: to play that that we should know about?

33:14 Speaker 6: I mean, I like playing Codo both Kodos o'bryan's and

33:18 Speaker 6: Allston O'Brien's. Yeah, soft spot in my heart for that.

33:23 Speaker 6: That's where we played our first gig. Oh it is.

33:25 Speaker 9: Yeah, Oh that's cool. That's a good way to say.

33:28 Speaker 9: And we can't ignore Bad Burger because that show was amazing.

33:33 Speaker 6: Yeah, we played back in March, and they're putting on

33:36 Speaker 6: some great shows.

33:37 Speaker 8: Oh wow, oh very and I'm seeing post where a

33:40 Speaker 8: lot of other shows there are just absolutely packed.

33:42 Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's it's cool to do a good job.

33:45 Speaker 8: What I liked about that show is there were a

33:48 Speaker 8: lot of people there that had no idea who was playing,

33:51 Speaker 8: didn't know any of the bands. They just knew that

33:53 Speaker 8: they had, you know, that kind of music on. It's

33:55 Speaker 8: heavy music on, and we brought a we brought a

33:58 Speaker 8: hip hop band up from from Fitchburg.

34:01 Speaker 6: Yeah, that it exactly.

34:03 Speaker 8: The reaction we had with him is like, oh, what's

34:05 Speaker 8: this hip hop band doing on a metal bell? Within

34:08 Speaker 8: half a song, everybody was up there and they lose

34:10 Speaker 8: their mind for them.

34:11 Speaker 6: Joe Grizzly, Okay, incredible.

34:14 Speaker 7: Yeah Joe Grizzly is that's what they're called.

34:16 Speaker 6: Yeah, oh wow, pure talent.

34:17 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, oh very cool, very cool.

34:20 Speaker 9: But like you said, Malcolm, that like that venue seems

34:24 Speaker 9: to have the old school people just show up to

34:26 Speaker 9: see music. They don't even know who's playing, don't even

34:28 Speaker 9: care if they just want to see live music.

34:31 Speaker 6: Don't see that a lot, and you don't you see

34:33 Speaker 6: that at Geno's up in Portland, and that's about it. Yeah,

34:37 Speaker 6: that's about it. They seem to have a built in audience,

34:39 Speaker 6: but everywhere else, Yeah, you got drag people.

34:41 Speaker 7: Yeah show yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Do you by

34:47 Speaker 7: the way, do you guys have any videos? Do you

34:48 Speaker 7: have any music videos?

34:50 Speaker 6: Just we have one for you do It was kind

34:55 Speaker 6: of a it was a it's super good it is.

34:59 Speaker 7: I'll have to check it out because your music what

35:01 Speaker 7: seems like it would.

35:03 Speaker 6: That Hard to Be a God cut.

35:06 Speaker 8: It's called so there's a uh, probably the most twisted,

35:10 Speaker 8: weirdest like fantasy sci fi Russian movie you'll ever see.

35:14 Speaker 8: It's called Hard to Be a God. And I pulled

35:16 Speaker 8: a bunch of video from that and kind of mashed

35:18 Speaker 8: it together. Okay, and it really fits magically, like it's

35:24 Speaker 8: really good.

35:24 Speaker 7: Oh I got it. I gotta check it out. Yeah, yeah,

35:27 Speaker 7: because your your music for me, and I'm sure it's

35:30 Speaker 7: the case for a lot of people. Uh, when they

35:32 Speaker 7: listen to it, it's it just evokes a lot of imagery.

35:35 Speaker 7: You know.

35:36 Speaker 8: I'm trying to learn some kind of like well learn

35:40 Speaker 8: hack some kind of animation to where I can get

35:43 Speaker 8: you know, an easy way to do animation and put

35:45 Speaker 8: it to some of the music.

35:46 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it seems like it would lend itself to that.

35:50 Speaker 7: Who right, Adam, You write the lyrics.

35:51 Speaker 6: Right, Yes you do? I do?

35:53 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, what's your because the songs are you know,

35:57 Speaker 7: pretty dark.

36:00 Speaker 6: Like he's the happiest person any of us know. Yeah. Yeah,

36:04 Speaker 6: well that's good. I get my outlet through the lyrics,

36:06 Speaker 6: I guess.

36:07 Speaker 7: But that makes sense.

36:08 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. I it's hard to really pinpoint,

36:15 Speaker 6: like I like, I have all these like unfinished stories

36:18 Speaker 6: in my head, and then they just do snapshots of

36:21 Speaker 6: these stories. Yeah, into the into the for the lyrics. Yeah,

36:26 Speaker 6: is really what it is. And I don't think I'll

36:28 Speaker 6: ever finish these stories, right, or even really start them

36:31 Speaker 6: for that matter. Well that's good because people are going

36:33 Speaker 6: to keep buying the next albums have finish.

36:37 Speaker 7: There you go, there you go. Yeah, that makes sense,

36:40 Speaker 7: that makes sense.

36:40 Speaker 6: What it is like Coheat and Cambria.

36:42 Speaker 8: I just found out, like every one of their albums

36:45 Speaker 8: it's part of like a comic book, like this grand story.

36:47 Speaker 7: I didn't know that.

36:48 Speaker 8: So they have like twenty albums that are this ongoing story. Yeah,

36:51 Speaker 8: I know, idea and from well, from what Bruce and

36:54 Speaker 8: Brian from TFR. I don't know if you know those guys,

36:57 Speaker 8: no local hardcore band? Oh they're like, yeah, I guess uh.

37:01 Speaker 8: The guy started a band simply to kind of forward

37:03 Speaker 8: to push the comic book. Really and Coheat and Camber

37:06 Speaker 8: you got huge, See.

37:08 Speaker 7: I didn't. Wow, I had no idea. I never knew that.

37:10 Speaker 7: Do they really have twenty albumshing camera?

37:12 Speaker 8: I don't know they have a whole bunch more than yeah,

37:15 Speaker 8: they just dropped the new album.

37:18 Speaker 7: Did they?

37:19 Speaker 6: Yeah?

37:19 Speaker 7: Okay? Interesting? Interesting? Yeah, I never knew that about them.

37:24 Speaker 7: Do you guys have anybody that you're playing a lot

37:26 Speaker 7: of shows with? You know, sometimes it happens organically. Band's

37:28 Speaker 7: kind of team up? Is there is there anybody that

37:30 Speaker 7: you've been playing a lot with?

37:31 Speaker 8: It was Benthic Realm, Benthic Realm with them.

37:33 Speaker 6: Yeah, I gotta check them out. Yeah, amazing.

37:36 Speaker 7: They're from keen as a Whister Oh Whister.

37:39 Speaker 8: Yeah, I believe you even said it, Wista. You can

37:42 Speaker 8: tell him I didn't grow up here because I said Worcester, So.

37:45 Speaker 6: You're familiar with the band Conkleeve.

37:47 Speaker 7: I grew up here. I still don't know the right

37:48 Speaker 7: way to say it. Uh, Conclave.

37:50 Speaker 6: Yes, the drummer from Conclave is the drummer of Benthic.

37:53 Speaker 7: Realm Oh okay, gotcha, gotcha.

37:55 Speaker 6: A good drummer, very good.

37:57 Speaker 7: Off to look them up. Yeah yeah. Anybody else you

38:00 Speaker 7: guys play a lot with.

38:01 Speaker 6: Or legally, it's been a real mix of bands, Rod,

38:07 Speaker 6: Iron Hecks, Iron Boys. Yeah. We probably played more shows

38:12 Speaker 6: with them than anyone else on purpose too, because I

38:15 Speaker 6: love playing with those guys.

38:16 Speaker 8: The thing is, even if we don't play a show

38:17 Speaker 8: with him, Jason usually shows.

38:20 Speaker 7: Up really yeah. Yeah, yeah, oh that's cool. That's cool.

38:26 Speaker 7: Now are you doing any any special events? Are you

38:29 Speaker 7: doing any in store events or anything for their.

38:32 Speaker 6: I have talked to Bull Moose Music and they are

38:35 Speaker 6: on board with it. They had just started. The email

38:38 Speaker 6: I got back was they had just did a in

38:41 Speaker 6: in store. I don't know which store they did, They

38:43 Speaker 6: get eleven eleven stores still and they said it went really,

38:48 Speaker 6: really really well. So they definitely wanted us to come

38:51 Speaker 6: and do some in stores. Yeah, so I'm supporting. I

38:55 Speaker 6: sent out I think to eighteen or nineteen different places

38:59 Speaker 6: asking if they were interested in doing in stores. Yeah,

39:02 Speaker 6: they're the only ones that have gotten back. A lot

39:04 Speaker 6: of places don't have a lot of room.

39:06 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, that's the thing.

39:07 Speaker 6: Yeah, and we don't want to We're not going to

39:08 Speaker 6: do it. We're not intending on doing a full band thing.

39:10 Speaker 6: We're just going to do a couple of amps and

39:12 Speaker 6: a cahone, like jimmylakes to Oh, he can just beat

39:15 Speaker 6: on the cahone. And we've done that, Like even at

39:18 Speaker 6: the end of Arrival of the Waves, we did a

39:21 Speaker 6: stripped down version of Keeping Pace with the Elephants, Yeah,

39:24 Speaker 6: and Jimmy played cahone and Malcolm played acoustic. Yeah, and

39:28 Speaker 6: I just took the fuzz off my electric and we

39:31 Speaker 6: just did it up. So we've done that several times

39:35 Speaker 6: a different open mics and stuff like that. So it

39:37 Speaker 6: would be I thought it would be fun and it

39:39 Speaker 6: would be like a fun way to promote the album

39:42 Speaker 6: one and get people into the record stores.

39:44 Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah. That's another thing that's that still

39:49 Speaker 7: goes on today that I didn't think we'd see in

39:50 Speaker 7: twenty twenty five is in store events record stores, in

39:53 Speaker 7: store events with bands, and it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool,

39:56 Speaker 7: good good good stuff. Do you guys have any ones

40:00 Speaker 7: at your next show. Do you have anything this weekend or.

40:02 Speaker 8: Not this weekend, but Tuesday we're at the Middle East.

40:05 Speaker 7: Oh cool?

40:06 Speaker 6: Upstairs?

40:06 Speaker 7: Oh very good.

40:07 Speaker 8: We're supporting a band called Castle out of San Francisco,

40:12 Speaker 8: and Benthic Realm is on.

40:13 Speaker 6: The bill as well.

40:14 Speaker 7: Oh nice. Nice.

40:15 Speaker 8: And that's the one that we kind of had to

40:17 Speaker 8: get our crap together because they're like, oh man, we're

40:19 Speaker 8: playing in the Middle East.

40:20 Speaker 6: We have no merch whatsoever.

40:21 Speaker 7: Yeah.

40:23 Speaker 8: Shout out to Printorium in Wilton, New Hampshire, who is

40:26 Speaker 8: getting his shirts on short notice less than a week.

40:28 Speaker 8: Oh okay, turned around in order for a bunch of

40:30 Speaker 8: shirts for us.

40:31 Speaker 7: Okay, Printorium, yeah in Wilton. Yeah. Do they do what

40:34 Speaker 7: else do they do? They do everything or.

40:36 Speaker 6: Any kind of apparel? Yeah?

40:38 Speaker 7: Really yeah, interesting? Interesting?

40:40 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, super fast.

40:41 Speaker 7: Really yeah, that's good.

40:43 Speaker 6: That's good.

40:44 Speaker 9: This is one of those shows that we would go

40:45 Speaker 9: even if we weren't playing, so to be able to

40:48 Speaker 9: have a bonus.

40:49 Speaker 6: Yeah, I had a ticket, all righty.

40:50 Speaker 7: Oh that's funny, very cool. And then what do you

40:55 Speaker 7: what do you have after that? What's the next one

40:56 Speaker 7: after that? Do you know?

40:57 Speaker 6: Off May twenty fourth, we're playing at Charlie's hit Ill.

41:00 Speaker 7: That's a venue I've heard so much about over the

41:03 Speaker 7: past year.

41:03 Speaker 6: It's pretty cool.

41:04 Speaker 8: It's an interesting place. Yeah, it is interesting. There's no

41:07 Speaker 8: other place.

41:07 Speaker 7: Like yeah in one way, like what's unique about it?

41:10 Speaker 8: Well, number one, it's the the official Cannabis Church of

41:13 Speaker 8: New England.

41:13 Speaker 6: It is status there and it's uh wild. I think

41:18 Speaker 6: it's an old like motorcycle garage or something like that

41:21 Speaker 6: they converted. It's a big building. Yeah, and it's in

41:25 Speaker 6: the backyard of some guy's house. It's it's literally an

41:28 Speaker 6: underground venue.

41:29 Speaker 7: Oh no kidding.

41:30 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's cool. I think that we had seven bands

41:33 Speaker 8: playing that day.

41:33 Speaker 6: Yeah.

41:34 Speaker 8: They just had a death metal fest there. Oh really yeah,

41:38 Speaker 8: Bonginator Bonginator headline.

41:40 Speaker 6: I mean it's a legit venue, it really is. Yeah.

41:44 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I've been hearing, i think for two years now,

41:46 Speaker 7: I've been hearing so much about.

41:48 Speaker 6: Charlie's What Adam third show, the fourth, third or fourth?

41:52 Speaker 7: Oh, that's very cool.

41:54 Speaker 8: That's where we met dust profit kidding Okay.

41:57 Speaker 6: Yeah, first time we played there.

41:58 Speaker 7: Well that makes sense, that makes sense. So as we

42:02 Speaker 7: approach the top of the hour, too, So what should

42:03 Speaker 7: people know about how to keep up with everything that

42:07 Speaker 7: you guys are doing, and also of course how to

42:08 Speaker 7: get the CD now that the CD is.

42:10 Speaker 6: Out, Well, the CD can go to Argonauta Records. I

42:13 Speaker 6: think it's Argonauta dot com I believe is the website.

42:17 Speaker 6: If you google Arganada Records, it's going to take you

42:19 Speaker 6: right there. Yeah, and then just on the search on

42:22 Speaker 6: their store, just searchable Blood. You can buy it through them.

42:26 Speaker 6: And like I said, by the ninth I'm supposed to

42:29 Speaker 6: have all the CDs physical copies here and we're going

42:33 Speaker 6: to be putting them up on our band camp page,

42:36 Speaker 6: which would be bandcamp dot able Blood six oh three,

42:39 Speaker 6: I think is what that is. I don't know all

42:42 Speaker 6: the band all of our emails off the top of

42:45 Speaker 6: my head. I just click the favorite. Yeah. The best

42:48 Speaker 6: way to acquire a CD is coming to a show.

42:50 Speaker 6: Come to a show starting so the May twenty fourth show,

42:54 Speaker 6: we will have CDs available then, okay, but this Tuesday,

42:59 Speaker 6: I don't Well, they haven't shown up in the mail yet,

43:02 Speaker 6: so I don't think we'll have physical copies for the

43:06 Speaker 6: mate or this Tuesday.

43:07 Speaker 8: But after that I selling what we have left of

43:10 Speaker 8: keeping pace well of course.

43:12 Speaker 6: Yeah, So we'll have physical copies of Keeping Pace with

43:15 Speaker 6: the Elephants Limited edition limited edition. We've been kicking around

43:18 Speaker 6: the idea of taking that down, so it will be

43:21 Speaker 6: a very limited edition at some point shortly.

43:24 Speaker 7: That's interesting. Why have you been thinking about taking it down?

43:27 Speaker 6: Do some re recording of the songs, like re imagine them? Yeah,

43:31 Speaker 6: I think it's time because yeah, even the ones we

43:33 Speaker 6: play live off of that have just kind of taken

43:35 Speaker 6: on their own life. Oh okay, that's the hard part

43:38 Speaker 6: about recording stuff. I mean, you got to have it

43:40 Speaker 6: out there. But I don't play even songs on arrival

43:43 Speaker 6: the same way I played them when I recorded them.

43:45 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, the songs kind of

43:49 Speaker 7: evolve and change over time, so I can't confirm. Argan

43:52 Speaker 7: out of records. Dot com is the website. That's a

43:55 Speaker 7: nice website, too.

43:56 Speaker 6: Very nice website. They have a great gig going over there.

44:00 Speaker 7: I'm kind of I'm a web design nerd, so I

44:01 Speaker 7: pay a lot, Like I'm very impressed like when I

44:03 Speaker 7: see a website, because I see so many bad websites

44:07 Speaker 7: and this is a great website.

44:08 Speaker 6: So that's so.

44:10 Speaker 8: And if you're into that kind of music, like ARGONAUTI

44:13 Speaker 8: you could literally throw a dart at the wall and

44:15 Speaker 8: whatever bandit sticks in.

44:17 Speaker 6: Yeah, by yeah, they've probably really they have a remarkably

44:21 Speaker 6: large amount of New England bands on their label, do they?

44:24 Speaker 6: Oh yeah? Oh I could. I could think of seven

44:26 Speaker 6: or eight off the top of my head. Oh wow,

44:28 Speaker 6: and that could be even more than that.

44:31 Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of stuff here that's

44:33 Speaker 7: really cool. Yeah. I'll have to do a little bit

44:36 Speaker 7: of exploring on that that website, because that's that's awesome. Yeah,

44:41 Speaker 7: very cool, very cool.

44:42 Speaker 6: And of course the Maryland Doomfest coming up in.

44:45 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, and that's in June.

44:47 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's June twentieth. The weekend that's in Maryland, Frederick, Maryland.

44:52 Speaker 7: Frederick, Maryland.

44:53 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, it's got Cafe six eleven is the name

44:56 Speaker 6: of the venue? Okay, really really neat little venue?

45:00 Speaker 7: Is it the whole weekend?

45:01 Speaker 6: Is it? Yeah? It's four days it starts Thursday, okay wow. Yeah.

45:07 Speaker 6: The week before that we're playing at the Button Factory,

45:10 Speaker 6: which I had never I didn't know they were doing

45:11 Speaker 6: shows until we got invited over at what's the local

45:15 Speaker 6: station or the sportsmouth will be there. W S C

45:21 Speaker 6: S I think that is it.

45:22 Speaker 7: Yeah.

45:22 Speaker 6: Yeah, so we'll be playing there with a couple other band,

45:26 Speaker 6: Miracle Blood and I feel awful that I can't remember

45:30 Speaker 6: the other band. But it's going to be a really

45:33 Speaker 6: good show.

45:34 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's really cool. That's a great station too. They

45:36 Speaker 7: do a lot for for local and independent and artists

45:40 Speaker 7: and yeah really really, uh they're they're an important part

45:43 Speaker 7: of the music scene.

45:45 Speaker 6: And then we're back at Bad Burger August YEP.

45:49 Speaker 7: Oh cool, excellent, excellent. Yeah, sounds like they're doing great

45:53 Speaker 7: stuff there too. That's good. That's good, especially whereas they

45:55 Speaker 7: because they've only been open for it's been has it

45:58 Speaker 7: been less than a year?

45:59 Speaker 6: Maybe maybe a little maybe around that around the year.

46:02 Speaker 7: Still kind of a new place.

46:03 Speaker 6: Yeah.

46:03 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's cool that they're supporting music like that.

46:05 Speaker 6: Yeah.

46:05 Speaker 8: Joe who does the booking there, it does a great job,

46:08 Speaker 8: and I love I love their attitude too. People are eating,

46:10 Speaker 8: They're like, hey, they'll make an announcement. Hey, folks, music's

46:13 Speaker 8: about to start. So if you don't like this music,

46:16 Speaker 8: eat up and get out.

46:17 Speaker 7: Yeah.

46:18 Speaker 6: Codo kind of does that too.

46:20 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh that's cool. That's cool. Well, guys,

46:24 Speaker 7: thank you all so much. Adam and Malcolm and Jimmy.

46:27 Speaker 7: I appreciate all three of you coming in. Thanks and

46:29 Speaker 7: uh check out uh yeah, go online. You can order

46:33 Speaker 7: of course Arrival of the Waves from Able Blood, and

46:36 Speaker 7: we should close out with I was thinking because it's

46:39 Speaker 7: kind of my personal favorite. It's a long track, but

46:41 Speaker 7: mental note, I still love this song so much, love it.

46:44 Speaker 7: I still love this song and it kind of takes

46:47 Speaker 7: you on a ride, you know, takes you on a journey.

46:48 Speaker 7: So good stuff. And if you are listening live on Saturday,

46:51 Speaker 7: stick around. We have Etch and the Young's coming up

46:54 Speaker 7: in the third hour and they're going to play and

46:56 Speaker 7: looking forward to that. But we will close out this

46:58 Speaker 7: hour with this from the album Arrival of the Waves.

47:02 Speaker 7: The band is Abled Blood. This is mental note and guys,

47:05 Speaker 7: thank you again so much.

47:06 Speaker 6: Thanks Matt.

48:10 Speaker 1: Waiting to smoke started to clear up. I had a

48:27 Speaker 1: straight past. What to say, vision's.

48:43 Speaker 11: Gone, made a mental note.

48:58 Speaker 1: Getting more.

49:04 Speaker 12: Got up their bags, drink ard you.

49:21 Speaker 1: You'll be free.

50:05 Speaker 5: In sixteen.

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