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Matt Connarton Unleashed 6-13-26 hour 3
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Speaker 9: Oh that's a banger. I love that. That is called
Speaker 9: No Anchor. The band is The Joy Thieves and the
Speaker 9: album is called Apocalypse Pending. And we've got let me
Speaker 9: bring that up here. We've got Dan Milligan from The
Speaker 9: Joy Thieves here with us via Microsoft Teams. Hello.
Speaker 8: Dan, Hey there great, Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 8: I appreciate it absolutely.
Speaker 9: I'm really excited to talk to you because, uh, I
Speaker 9: love that track. I love everything. Of course you send
Speaker 9: us the whole album. I was into the whole thing.
Speaker 9: It's really really good and I love the project. But
Speaker 9: I almost don't know how to describe it. It's like
Speaker 9: it's a supergroup, but it's really more like a super collective, right,
Speaker 9: because you've got a lot of people involved in this,
Speaker 9: but they're all come with some pretty impressive resumes.
Speaker 10: Yeah. You know, as of.
Speaker 8: Now, we've been going for maybe like seven or eight years,
Speaker 8: and I think there's over eighty people who've been involved
Speaker 8: now from bands from all over the world. So yeah,
Speaker 8: it is, I guess like a supergroup, but it involves
Speaker 8: people not just here in Chicago where I am, but
Speaker 8: all over the planet.
Speaker 9: How do you, I mean, how do you manage all
Speaker 9: of that? Because you're the what is your role in this?
Speaker 9: You're you're the producer, right and I assume you play
Speaker 9: some things too, or what is your role here? And
Speaker 9: how did you? Are you the progenitor of the joy Thieves?
Speaker 9: Did you start this project?
Speaker 10: Yes? I sure did.
Speaker 8: I started it just by myself and it slowly grew
Speaker 8: over time. So I'm a professional drummer, so I do
Speaker 8: all the drumming on the tracks for the most part,
Speaker 8: and then myself and my production partner do all the
Speaker 8: mixing as well as the You know, when you have
Speaker 8: this many members, everyone's sending you tracks from all over
Speaker 8: the place. Someone's got to sit through all those things
Speaker 8: and make some decisions in the studio and do the
Speaker 8: production stuff.
Speaker 10: So that's what I do as well.
Speaker 9: Is this what you had intended it to be? When
Speaker 9: you started it, did you imagine it growing to this
Speaker 9: proportion in terms of the involvement of all these people?
Speaker 8: Never, never, ever, in a million years, did I think
Speaker 8: it would be anything like this. When it first started,
Speaker 8: it was literally just I was writing music in my
Speaker 8: home studio for myself.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's all there was.
Speaker 8: It slowly started to grow after that, and then it
Speaker 8: started to rapidly grow after that. So I mean, I
Speaker 8: think on our first album there was maybe thirty people,
Speaker 8: and now, like I said, there's over eighty contributors.
Speaker 9: So that's incredible. And how did you come to work
Speaker 9: with all these people? I mean, obviously I'm asking a
Speaker 9: very broad question because I'm sure every story, you know,
Speaker 9: every interaction with every person is different. Some of these
Speaker 9: people are probably people you've worked with before, you know
Speaker 9: very well, maybe you've never met, but you email tracks
Speaker 9: back and forth or dropbox tracks back and forth because
Speaker 9: we live in an era where you can do that.
Speaker 9: But I mean, how did you pull all these people
Speaker 9: into this project? So?
Speaker 8: Yeah, as you said, one at a time, right, I mean,
Speaker 8: some of these people are people that I've known ever
Speaker 8: since I was a kid.
Speaker 10: I've played music with forever.
Speaker 8: The vast majority of these people are musicians that I
Speaker 8: have been a fans of over the years that I
Speaker 8: just reached out to them to see if they might
Speaker 8: be interested in helping do something like this. I will
Speaker 8: say during the COVID years it kind of helped because
Speaker 8: all the musicians of the world were literally sitting in
Speaker 8: front of their computers with no gigs and nothing to do,
Speaker 8: and so at that point it really exploded. Everyone was
Speaker 8: looking for creative projects to be a part of, and
Speaker 8: I guess I just happened to be right there at
Speaker 8: the perfect time.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that comes up a lot on this show too,
Speaker 9: COVID and how the pandemic affected how we make music,
Speaker 9: and I've always said, you know, obviously it was a
Speaker 9: terrible experience, but we have to find the silver linings
Speaker 9: where we can, and one of the few silver linings
Speaker 9: with the pandemic was I think it really kind of
Speaker 9: forced a lot of musicians to sort of reevaluate what
Speaker 9: they're willing to try in terms of making music and collaboration.
Speaker 9: You know, all the means to do that, all the
Speaker 9: technology already existed, and a lot of musicians were already
Speaker 9: doing it that way. But I think the pandemic forced
Speaker 9: a lot of musicians who maybe had been resistant to
Speaker 9: try and that, you know, next thing, you know, like
Speaker 9: you've got classic rock bands getting together remotely online to
Speaker 9: do concerts on YouTube and stuff like that. And of course,
Speaker 9: you know, we saw this increase in people working and
Speaker 9: collaborating with people who they might not otherwise have ever
Speaker 9: had the chance to because now all of a sudden,
Speaker 9: they had a lot of time on their hands, as
Speaker 9: you alluded to, but also people just became a lot
Speaker 9: more open to the idea, well maybe I really can
Speaker 9: work with someone remotely and we'll we'll drop box tracks
Speaker 9: back and forth and however this is going to go.
Speaker 9: So I think it really kind of changed just how
Speaker 9: people in a broad sense, just how musicians think about
Speaker 9: all that, and kind of open musicians up to working
Speaker 9: that way a much greater level.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I absolutely agree.
Speaker 8: It was kind of a fast forward button as soon
Speaker 8: as that happened, where you know, it might have taken
Speaker 8: people a few years, a few more years to get
Speaker 8: into working like that, but all of a sudden, it
Speaker 8: was it turned into kind of that or nothing right, right,
Speaker 8: So so yeah, no, people were all of a sudden,
Speaker 8: it's very very inspired to do things like that. And
Speaker 8: fortunately we had started this band three years prior to that,
Speaker 8: so the machinery of how we were working was already
Speaker 8: kind of set up. So literally, after reaching out to people,
Speaker 8: all I have to do is say, like, look, we
Speaker 8: have the process in place. All you have to do
Speaker 8: is this, And it was very easy to bring people
Speaker 8: aboard at that time.
Speaker 9: That's a good position to be in where you sort
Speaker 9: of already got the infrastructure in place, so.
Speaker 10: You're exactly yes, exactly right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that's excellent. I'm really curious about the album
Speaker 9: title Apocalypse Pending, and there is sort of a you know,
Speaker 9: as I listened to the lyrics of these tracks, there
Speaker 9: is sort of a I mean, you know, they're very
Speaker 9: upbeat and energetic and fun to listen to, but there's
Speaker 9: also a little bit of that doom in there. How
Speaker 9: literally should we take this title? Is that what the
Speaker 9: album is about, the the pending apocalypse? Or is there
Speaker 9: some other meaning attached to it? Or or maybe it's
Speaker 9: just a cool title. I don't know. I like the title,
Speaker 9: but but what what what should I take from it?
Speaker 8: The well, the the title came from actually the lyrics
Speaker 8: from a song, uh the guy who did all of
Speaker 8: the vocals on this particular record.
Speaker 10: His name is Chris Connelly. People might know him. He's
Speaker 10: a solo artist.
Speaker 8: He's also worked with like Ministry and Pig Face bands
Speaker 8: like that, And he did all the vocals on this record,
Speaker 8: and he wrote all the lyrics. And when he turned
Speaker 8: in that particular song to me, those two words just
Speaker 8: kind of jumped out as as an interesting.
Speaker 10: Way to kind of package this entire thing.
Speaker 8: Okay, And I think also a lot of this album
Speaker 8: was fueled by the energy that was going on at
Speaker 8: the time here in the States, and it was it
Speaker 8: just it just hit the The two words just seemed
Speaker 8: to fit perfectly for where.
Speaker 9: We're headed, right right, Yeah, I mean, I hope you're wrong,
Speaker 9: but but but but I understand. I mean you you
Speaker 9: probably hear from a lot of people who've said, who've
Speaker 9: said to you, Yeah, I kind of I'm feeling that.
Speaker 9: And and that's why this, uh, that's why this connects
Speaker 9: with me.
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, And kind of when we were working on this,
Speaker 8: it was right in the middle of when Ice was
Speaker 8: doing all sorts of raids here in Chicago and all
Speaker 8: this kind of crazy energy and and Chris, he's actually
Speaker 8: he's from Scotland. Yeah, so so he's here in the States,
Speaker 8: but he grew up in Scotland and he starting to
Speaker 8: get nervous. I mean, they're the people who are were
Speaker 8: born in other places were starting to get nervous.
Speaker 10: He's one of them.
Speaker 8: And a lot of that kind of fear and anger
Speaker 8: was coming out in this music.
Speaker 10: And that's a that's a huge part of it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I can see where people would connect with that.
Speaker 9: I just as as an aside, I know someone who's
Speaker 9: from Canada who is in the country legally but is
Speaker 9: afraid to go home to Canada to visit because she's
Speaker 9: she's worried that she won't get back in because exactly right,
Speaker 9: just things are so things are so crazy right now.
Speaker 8: Exactly And that's the kind of fear and apprehension and
Speaker 8: tension that we're all feeling. When we were making this record,
Speaker 8: it was it was in high gear at that time.
Speaker 9: So yeah, yeah, I was just reading that you've is
Speaker 9: this quote true, You've you've described the lyrics as being
Speaker 9: quote violently anti fascist.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Absolutely. That quote comes directly from Chris, the guy who
Speaker 10: wrote all the lyrics.
Speaker 9: Oh gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 8: So he's and he does all of that. I don't
Speaker 8: write the lyrics. So that's a direct quote from him,
Speaker 8: so I can guarantee you that's exactly what he means.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, No, that's great. I love it. I love
Speaker 9: it well. So when you started, you know, kind of
Speaker 9: going back to when you started this during the pandemic,
Speaker 9: was there ever a point where you felt like maybe
Speaker 9: this idea wasn't going to work? What like? Did you
Speaker 9: run in any challenges creatively where you thought this, you know,
Speaker 9: trying to approach it this way even though the technology
Speaker 9: is there, even though we're ready to do this, I'm
Speaker 9: not so sure. Were there any stumbling blocks or was
Speaker 9: it pretty smooth?
Speaker 8: You know, because we started, like I said, a few
Speaker 8: years before COVID, so we've been doing this for a while. So,
Speaker 8: like you said, the infrastructure was in place. So I
Speaker 8: will say, we always tend to bite off more than
Speaker 8: we think we can chew in the beginning on a
Speaker 8: lot of these projects.
Speaker 10: Sure, and there are so.
Speaker 8: Many moving parts, and I will say there was never
Speaker 8: a time where I thought this isn't gonna work. But
Speaker 8: I will say there are times that are very challenging
Speaker 8: for myself and my production partner James, because we're the
Speaker 8: ones everything has to go through us.
Speaker 10: Someone has to be staying there at the.
Speaker 8: Very front and make a lot of these decisions and
Speaker 8: it can be overwhelming. But that said, no, there was
Speaker 8: never a time where I thought this isn't gonna work.
Speaker 8: Every single thing about this project has felt very natural
Speaker 8: and very good.
Speaker 9: Oh that's good. That's good. And what about your your
Speaker 9: partnership with ArmaLite, Am I saying that correctly? ArmaLite Industries?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Absolutely, they're from London, They're a label from London. They
Speaker 8: have actually released everything that we've ever put out, and
Speaker 8: from the very beginning, the very genesis of this band,
Speaker 8: and we put I put together a few recordings, some
Speaker 8: demos and stuff and sent them out to Armolite, and
Speaker 8: from the very beginning they were just all aboard. They
Speaker 8: saw the vision completely. They have been amazing and stood
Speaker 8: by us for all this time.
Speaker 9: Oh that's outstanding. That's outstanding. I've also seen, you know,
Speaker 9: this referred to as industrial music, and obviously, I mean
Speaker 9: that's kind of a sort of a broad category. But
Speaker 9: do you feel like, how do you gauge kind of
Speaker 9: the interest in industrial music? Because I feel like it's
Speaker 9: always been for since I was a kid. It's well,
Speaker 9: I don't know if we even had the term industrial
Speaker 9: music when I was a kid necessarily, but sometimes I
Speaker 9: like to forget about how old I actually am. But
Speaker 9: but I feel like it's always sort of existed in
Speaker 9: this niche or niche as I guess people like to
Speaker 9: pronounce it lately, and it doesn't it's so rarely sort
Speaker 9: of connects to the mainstream. And I'm a radio guy,
Speaker 9: so I tend to think of it from the perspective
Speaker 9: of radio. So over the years, you know, there's been
Speaker 9: you know, there was nine Inch Nails and some others
Speaker 9: that are that you would put in that category of industrial,
Speaker 9: but there it seems like there's never a lot of
Speaker 9: mainstream industrial acts and and I'm not sure why that is,
Speaker 9: because you know, well, I'm a big fan, so I'm biased.
Speaker 9: I love industrial music. But but do you feel like
Speaker 9: recently there's been kind of a renewed interest in this
Speaker 9: type of music?
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, over the past few years, I think definitely.
Speaker 8: So it's one of these categories that's it's so broad
Speaker 8: that it's just kind of almost useless to call somethan
Speaker 8: do kind of just because there are so many variations, right, right,
Speaker 8: But I will agree with you, typically there's not a
Speaker 8: lot of that finds its way to the radio waves.
Speaker 8: But I will say, I mean, we come from a
Speaker 8: very song oriented point of view. A lot of that
Speaker 8: music doesn't. And that's part of the reason that I
Speaker 8: really like a lot of that stuff. It's very experimental,
Speaker 8: it's very you know, there can be long kind of
Speaker 8: experimental pieces.
Speaker 10: We are song focused. Yeah, And I think that comes.
Speaker 8: Out very clear in all of our recordings that we
Speaker 8: have stuff that could be played on the radio, but
Speaker 8: hopefully still fits in that category somehow.
Speaker 9: Right, No, that makes sense, That makes sense. It's very accessible.
Speaker 9: It's just a matter of getting it to the right
Speaker 9: people to hear it. What can you tell me about
Speaker 9: the video for for No Anchor?
Speaker 10: Sure?
Speaker 8: Well, the did the video for No Anchor was just
Speaker 8: a lyric video that we did. And and the guy
Speaker 8: who's in into doing the vocals, that's Chris. That's Chris Connelly,
Speaker 8: the guy who's sang all the vocals on this. And
Speaker 8: you know, it's kind of fun when we make videos
Speaker 8: because this project exists literally just as a recording project.
Speaker 10: This is we don't play shows.
Speaker 8: We don't tour on, we don't do any of that,
Speaker 8: so right, some of the some of these videos give
Speaker 8: us the chance to actually get together in a room
Speaker 8: and perform and do some fun stuff, which I really
Speaker 8: do enjoy.
Speaker 9: Right, No Anchor, I apologize Dan, Yeah, No Anchor is
Speaker 9: a lyric video. I said the wrong I met the
Speaker 9: wrong end of the rifle, the wrong end of the rifle.
Speaker 9: I really like this video a lot. That's what I
Speaker 9: meant to ask you. This is the Visually this is
Speaker 9: I mean, it's it's disturbing, but it's it's it's fascinating.
Speaker 9: I'm actually playing it right now again just to kind
Speaker 9: of refresh my mind on it. But I love the
Speaker 9: I love the effects on this just visually it's you know,
Speaker 9: and it's funny too, because we were talking about technology
Speaker 9: and how you can do things differently than you used
Speaker 9: to be able to. There was a time when to
Speaker 9: make a video like this it would be so expensive,
Speaker 9: you know, to make a video and get it on
Speaker 9: MTV and all of that. But now you can do it.
Speaker 9: And I'm curious to know about the making of this video,
Speaker 9: But you can do something that looks incredible for but
Speaker 9: it's much more accessible to be able to do something
Speaker 9: that is really visually stunning like this video.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, and we're lucky that we've had.
Speaker 8: Actually, our very first music video was made by this guy,
Speaker 8: Joel Lopez from Lumber Productions. He's the same guy who's
Speaker 8: made every single music video that we've done, including that one.
Speaker 8: So very early, kind of like the label, very early,
Speaker 8: we stumbled across somebody who was the perfect match for
Speaker 8: what we were trying to do. And you'll see our videos,
Speaker 8: everyone has its own kind of look, but they're all
Speaker 8: from the same guy.
Speaker 9: Oh okay, that makes sense. Well, yeah, you found you
Speaker 9: found somebody who definitely really captures something there, so it
Speaker 9: makes sense as you would want to work with them. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I suggest people check out the video. It's just it's
Speaker 9: just really cool. It kind of reminds me a little
Speaker 9: bit of some of the videos I would see on
Speaker 9: MTV in the nineties that were, you know, like not
Speaker 9: again so little industrial music kind of made it into
Speaker 9: that MTV mainstream. But I would watch one hundred and
Speaker 9: twenty minutes on Sunday nights and see some some things
Speaker 9: that you wouldn't see in regular rotation on MTV, and
Speaker 9: I would see videos that you know kind of had
Speaker 9: an esthetic like that. Maybe it makes me a little
Speaker 9: nostalgic for that, but no, it was just really cool
Speaker 9: and it's it's such a great song. So, yeah, you
Speaker 9: did Mention live. So none of these so none of
Speaker 9: these songs ever get played live, right, because there's really
Speaker 9: no way for you to do that, because it's such
Speaker 9: a large collective.
Speaker 8: Exactly, the closest we come as when we're making videos,
Speaker 8: we actually did in twenty twenty one, we actually got
Speaker 8: together in a studio with a group of people and
Speaker 8: did some live some live recordings in the studio, And
Speaker 8: that's the closest we ben. We have no plans on
Speaker 8: doing any tours or gigging or anything like that. Is
Speaker 8: just there's so many moving parts and I never say never,
Speaker 8: I guess, I guess it could happen, But at this
Speaker 8: point in time, that's kind of not the point of
Speaker 8: what we're trying to do.
Speaker 10: The point is writing and releasing the music, right.
Speaker 9: Right, So what's Obviously you're focused on this album and
Speaker 9: promoting this album, But do you kind of know what's
Speaker 9: next for the Joy Thieves, what the forward trajectory is?
Speaker 8: You know, there's always stuff cooking in the background. Which
Speaker 8: is always one of the fun parts is you know,
Speaker 8: by the time an album actually comes out, we're already
Speaker 8: knee deep in something else that we're working on.
Speaker 9: So that's good.
Speaker 8: There's always a plan for new music, and there's always
Speaker 8: gonna be forward motion on this thing, and hopefully that
Speaker 8: means bringing possibly even more people and involving more people
Speaker 8: and seeing where it goes and just watching it progress.
Speaker 9: Oh, that's fantastic. In a moment, we're going to play
Speaker 9: this track, Ambush Vines, because I think tell me if
Speaker 9: I have this right? Was this the previous single before
Speaker 9: No Anger.
Speaker 8: No no Way there was The Wrong End of Your
Speaker 8: Rifle was the first single, oh, and No Anchor was
Speaker 8: the second single?
Speaker 9: Oh I Got You? I Got You?
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 9: I think Ambush Vines was a focused track. Okay it is, Yes,
Speaker 9: you know what. I'm going to actually play them both
Speaker 9: at the end of our conversation because I really like
Speaker 9: both tracks. I like the whole thing. Thank you, we
Speaker 9: have talk, Yeah, we have time. I can see them
Speaker 9: both in. But where before we let you go, Dan,
Speaker 9: where's the best place for people to go online to
Speaker 9: keep up with everything that you're doing? Because I want
Speaker 9: people to be able to find you. And like I said,
Speaker 9: the album is incredible. People should listen to the whole thing.
Speaker 9: But where's the best place to go online?
Speaker 10: You can go to the joy Thieves dot com.
Speaker 8: That's probably the best place because that links to all
Speaker 8: of our other sites, you know, and we're on obviously
Speaker 8: all the socials, and then we do we do a
Speaker 8: lot of our sales through band camp yep. So we
Speaker 8: also have a band Camp page under the joy Thieves,
Speaker 8: So any of those places will work great.
Speaker 9: I'm glad you're on band Camp too. That's something I've
Speaker 9: really been pushing on the show for a couple of
Speaker 9: years now. Band Camp, I think, is such a great
Speaker 9: resource and something that people don't necessarily realize. And I
Speaker 9: always try to and part this to my listeners. If
Speaker 9: you purchase a track on band camp, you know, not
Speaker 9: only not only is band camp very artist friendly, so
Speaker 9: you're helping the artist, but you also get the highest
Speaker 9: quality file of the track that you're going to get
Speaker 9: versus say, you know, if you're just streaming it on
Speaker 9: YouTube or something, you know, you get a high you
Speaker 9: get a high quality file from band Camp.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, I'm a huge band Camp fan and we and
Speaker 8: that's why we do a lot of work through them
Speaker 8: and we release everything through them. And honestly, just as
Speaker 8: a listener, I go to band camp all the time.
Speaker 8: That's where I buy all my music.
Speaker 9: Oh good, good, Yeah, that's excellent. Yeah. We love band
Speaker 9: camp so very good, very good. So we're gonna go
Speaker 9: ahead and hit this. I think I'm gonna play the
Speaker 9: wrong end of your Rifle and then I'm gonna play
Speaker 9: Ambush Vines. But another a great couple of tracks. But uh,
Speaker 9: Dan Milligan, thank you so much for joining us. We'll
Speaker 9: definitely do this again in the future. It sounds like
Speaker 9: you've got a lot coming up in the future of
Speaker 9: the Joy Thieves and and we'd love to have you back,
Speaker 9: and of course we'll talk about anything else that you're
Speaker 9: up to as well. But I really love this this album.
Speaker 9: Congratulations on Apocalypse Pending. I think it's great, and everyone
Speaker 9: to check it out. Go to band camp and check
Speaker 9: it out. And Dan, thank you so much for joining
Speaker 9: us today.
Speaker 10: Hey, thank you so much. This has been a lot
Speaker 10: of fun.
Speaker 9: Oh great, thank you, all right, talk to you soon.
Speaker 10: Bye bye, okay, bye bye.
Speaker 9: All right. That is Daniel Milligan from the Joy Thieves
Speaker 9: and Yeah, we're gonna play both of these. These are
Speaker 9: these are worth playing. Uh, let's see, so we've got
Speaker 9: the wrong end of the rifle and then we're gonna
Speaker 9: follow that up with ambush vines, two great tracks from
Speaker 9: the Joy Thieves. Check this out. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: May I not make looking stuff? Players say, I'm riding
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Speaker 1: and my bout did you go up? Let a grand
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Speaker 1: TI to a sell road, to ride Surprise.
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Speaker 6: Because I regam like a tad on the silk road.
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Speaker 9: Oh, I love it. I love that project. The joy
Speaker 9: thieves snipe you again to Daniel Milligan for joining us.
Speaker 9: We had a great conversation. I thought I really enjoyed
Speaker 9: talking with him, and I love that project, The Joy Thieves.
Speaker 9: The album is called Apocalypse Pending. Hopefully they're wrong about that.
Speaker 9: But Chris Connolly, the vocalist on those tracks as Dan
Speaker 9: and I were discussing, describes the music has been violently
Speaker 9: anti fascist, which I'm on board with. So I love that.
Speaker 9: But yeah, that is The Joy Thieves. Check out the
Speaker 9: whole album. Go to band camp check it out. Not
Speaker 9: right now, stay with me for the rest of the show,
Speaker 9: but afterward, please immediately afterward, I mean immediately, like, don't
Speaker 9: even I don't care what else you have to do.
Speaker 9: Immediately go to bandcamp and check out The Joy Thieves
Speaker 9: and the album Apocalypse Pending. It is really really good.
Speaker 9: This is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from
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Speaker 9: of great content and a searchable archive. If you're looking
Speaker 9: for a particular guest who's been on the show, that
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Speaker 9: we've got some cool new stuff that we're adding to
Speaker 9: that as well. We've got a couple of articles in
Speaker 9: the on the blog page of the site, but we're
Speaker 9: gonna be adding a lot more content there, so not
Speaker 9: just audio for you to peruse, but also some articles
Speaker 9: you don't really peruse article audio. I said that backward.
Speaker 9: I think audio that you can listen to, but articles
Speaker 9: that you can peruse. Articles seem perusible necessarily. I don't
Speaker 9: know if perusible is even a word. But here we
Speaker 9: are today is Saturday, June thirteen, twenty twenty six. Very
Speaker 9: nice to have you with me. Thank you, and let's
Speaker 9: see let's do a little bit more music industry news.
Speaker 9: Here's something that kind of as a radio guy, I
Speaker 9: saw this and I said, WHOA, what's going on here?
Speaker 9: This is from Music Business Worldwide dot com. As I
Speaker 9: always say, one of my favorite websites for music industry
Speaker 9: news says here, ASCAP sues four radio groups for its
Speaker 9: prolonged unauthorized use of its members music. Now, this is
Speaker 9: interesting to me because in radio, when you're in a
Speaker 9: radio station such as I am right now, for example,
Speaker 9: you know, you take it for granted, you can just
Speaker 9: play whatever you want. It's radio, and you know it's
Speaker 9: a complex process. But radio pays, you know, these performing
Speaker 9: arts companies or we have to report to the I'm
Speaker 9: not involved in any of it, but we report to
Speaker 9: the performance performing arts companies. You know what gets played
Speaker 9: and so you know, are the artists get paid for
Speaker 9: their songs being played on the radio, et cetera. We
Speaker 9: won't get into the details of that. But this I
Speaker 9: saw this and I said, WHOA, what's going on? Okay,
Speaker 9: So again ASKAPS. Who's four radio groups were prolonged and
Speaker 9: authorized use of its members music? It says here. ASKAP
Speaker 9: has filed copyright infringement lawsuits against four US radio groups
Speaker 9: that it says have broadcast its members music without a
Speaker 9: valid license. Oh, this isn't something you expect even to
Speaker 9: hear about in twenty twenty six. Maybe back in the
Speaker 9: days of pirate radio stations and outlaw radio, but not
Speaker 9: in this hyper corporatized radio world that we live in now,
Speaker 9: you don't expect to ever hear stories like this. That's
Speaker 9: part of why this caught my attention. So the Performing
Speaker 9: Rights Organization as GAP said on Tuesday, June nine that
Speaker 9: the four groups operate a total of fifteen radio stations. Now,
Speaker 9: let's see if we recognize any of these names. It
Speaker 9: sounds like these are all very small companies, you know,
Speaker 9: because in radio, obviously, you've got big companies like iHeart Radio,
Speaker 9: which is I think the biggest solidation in the music
Speaker 9: in the well, not just in the music industry, not
Speaker 9: really in the music industry, but in the radio industry specifically.
Speaker 9: We've seen a lot of consolidation, a lot of big
Speaker 9: companies buying up smaller companies. You see it in every
Speaker 9: industry really, but I think iHeart Radio is the biggest.
Speaker 9: Used to be Clear Channel. But these are all it
Speaker 9: looks like these are all very small radio groups because
Speaker 9: I haven't heard of any of these. Huago bro, I
Speaker 9: don't even know how to pronounce itgo haugo who go,
Speaker 9: I don't know, I don't know what that is. But
Speaker 9: I've never heard of them. Who Go Broadcasting Inc. In
Speaker 9: South Dakota, spoon He Media LLC In Indiana, Taylor Communications
Speaker 9: in Mississippi, and uh oh, this one's hitting close to home.
Speaker 9: Barry Lunderville Radio in New Hampshire. Uh oh, We're gonna
Speaker 9: have to look up what station's Berry Lunderville Radio owns.
Speaker 9: Why is it called Barry this guy? Literally, I assume
Speaker 9: there's a guy named Barry Lunderville who started the company
Speaker 9: and decided to call it Barry Lunderville Radio. Uh Okay,
Speaker 9: we're gonna look that up in a minute. Okay, it
Speaker 9: says here. According to the article, ASKAP represents more than
Speaker 9: one point one million songwriters, composers, and music publishers and
Speaker 9: licenses the public performance of their work to businesses that
Speaker 9: play music, including radio stations. About ninety percent of the
Speaker 9: license fees that ASCAP collects are paid to its songwriters, composers,
Speaker 9: and music publishers as royalties. Most US commercial radio stations
Speaker 9: license ASCAPS music through an agreement between ASCAP and the
Speaker 9: Radio Music License Committee, which negotiates blanket license rates on
Speaker 9: the industry's behalf. That agreement provides access to more than
Speaker 9: twenty million works for ASCAPS repertory for a fee calculated
Speaker 9: as a percentage of station revenues. According to the organization,
Speaker 9: ASCAP and the RmlC reached a settlement in August twenty
Speaker 9: twenty five that raised the royalty rates paid by almost
Speaker 9: ten thousand commercial terrestrial radio stations in the US. The
Speaker 9: deal included year on year increases in the percentage of
Speaker 9: revenue rate paid by stations. BMI, another US performing rights organization,
Speaker 9: reached its own RmlC settlement in August twenty twenty five
Speaker 9: in what it called its largest rate increase ever for radio.
Speaker 9: By the way, sidebar obvious, but I'll say it for radio.
Speaker 9: But good for the artists. Okay, radio has to pay more,
Speaker 9: but the artists are getting more. Radio stations that broadcast
Speaker 9: music typically license multiple performing rights organizations, including ASCAP, BMI, CSACK,
Speaker 9: and Global Music Rights. A license from one does not
Speaker 9: cover the others, and each pursues its own infringement actions
Speaker 9: against stations that do not pay. ASCAP Chairman of the
Speaker 9: Board and president and songwriter Paul Williams are Remember Paul Williams.
Speaker 9: Remember Paul Williams said quote music is the lifeblood of
Speaker 9: radio and the overwhelming majority of radio stations follow the law. Unquote,
Speaker 9: by the way, I can picture Paul Williams, but I
Speaker 9: can't think of any Paul Williams songs. He also said, quote,
Speaker 9: and that's not a diss on Paul Williams. I just
Speaker 9: I can't. I literally, I can picture what he looks
Speaker 9: like very clearly. I cannot think of a single Paul
Speaker 9: Williams song. Why is that? I don't know. I apologize
Speaker 9: to Paul Williams. Quote. As songwriters and composers, we earn
Speaker 9: our livelihoods through our creative work, and music is how
Speaker 9: we put food on the table, pay the rent, and
Speaker 9: support our families. Radio station owners know that an ASCAP
Speaker 9: blank and license allows them to offer music legally, efficiently,
Speaker 9: and at a reasonable price, while compensating music creators fairly. Quote.
Speaker 9: Under federal copyright law, broadcasters must obtain permission from copyright
Speaker 9: owners before playing their music. As CAP said, the four
Speaker 9: station groups have repeatedly refused to renew their licenses and
Speaker 9: pay the required fees. According to ASCAP, ASCAP said the
Speaker 9: defendants of broadcast music written and published by its members
Speaker 9: without authorization or payment for the last several years. Clara
Speaker 9: Kim ASCAPS EVP executive vice president and chief Legal and
Speaker 9: business affairs officers said, quote, we don't take legal action
Speaker 9: lightly when a station refuses to pay for the music
Speaker 9: that makes their business posy possible. We have a responsibility
Speaker 9: to our members to take action unquote. ASCAP said it
Speaker 9: terminated each broadcaster's license and proceeded with litigation after exhausting
Speaker 9: attempts to reach a resolution. ASCAP says it is the
Speaker 9: only US performing rights organization that operates on a not
Speaker 9: for profit basis. I didn't know that about ninety percent
Speaker 9: of the license fees that ASCAP collects are paid to
Speaker 9: the songwriters, composers, and music publishers as royalties, the organization said.
Speaker 9: Um ASCAP licenses it's repertory to streaming services, television and
Speaker 9: radio broadcasters into brick and mortar businesses such as bars, restaurants,
Speaker 9: and retail stores. Now that's something a lot of people
Speaker 9: don't know. When you say, when you go into a
Speaker 9: bar and you hear music being played over the ceeo
Speaker 9: a bar or any kind of business, you know that's again,
Speaker 9: they have to pay for that. That's not free. They
Speaker 9: don't just turn on the radio and let it play
Speaker 9: or put on some music and let it play, or
Speaker 9: you use a service for that and just let it play,
Speaker 9: and that's it. They have to pay for that. And venues,
Speaker 9: music venues, and I don't care how big or small
Speaker 9: it is, even if it's just a little, tiny, little,
Speaker 9: you know, dive bar on the corner. If they have
Speaker 9: someone come in and play live, like maybe they have
Speaker 9: an acoustic singer songwriter come in and play live in
Speaker 9: the little bar, this little tiny bar that nobody even
Speaker 9: knows about, they do have to pay for that. If
Speaker 9: the artist, I mean, if they're playing original songs, it
Speaker 9: doesn't matter. But if they're playing cover songs, the bar
Speaker 9: has to pay for that. They have to pay these
Speaker 9: licensing organizations for that if they don't. And by the way,
Speaker 9: this is gonna sound wild. I swear to some of
Speaker 9: you won't even believe me when I say this, but
Speaker 9: I swear to God this is the truth. They and
Speaker 9: I'll tell you in a minute why I know about this.
Speaker 9: They actually send these performing rights organizations performance rights organisms.
Speaker 9: They have people they send into bars and other types
Speaker 9: of venues undercover. I'm not kidding. Undercover. They have people
Speaker 9: go in to find out what's going on. Oh, you've
Speaker 9: got a band playing tonight, let's see. Oh are they
Speaker 9: doing cover songs? Oh? Are these cover songs of any
Speaker 9: of our clients at ASCAP. Oh, we have a problem,
Speaker 9: and they will, uh, they will make it known to
Speaker 9: the owner or the management of that establishment. No, you
Speaker 9: are about to You've got a heap of trouble here
Speaker 9: because you can't be doing this. And we're about to.
Speaker 9: I don't know how it works. We're about to find
Speaker 9: you a lot of money or something. I don't know
Speaker 9: how that would work. But so in other words, they
Speaker 9: actively and they will send. Look. Years ago, when I
Speaker 9: was living in Conquered there was a place called Cafe Eclipse.
Speaker 9: And we might even have some listeners of this show.
Speaker 9: If you've been with me for a long time, you
Speaker 9: might even remember Cafe Eclipse. Christian and Star Skinner good
Speaker 9: friends of mine. They were the owners and operators of
Speaker 9: Cafe Eclipse, and but they had a strict policy there
Speaker 9: no covers. And it was Christian who told me Christian
Speaker 9: Skinner who told me that the reason is they had
Speaker 9: actually had someone in there one night who revealed themselves
Speaker 9: ultimately to be from one of the performing rights organizations
Speaker 9: checking out what's going on because and telling Christian. If
Speaker 9: I remember the story correctly, this person confronted Christian at
Speaker 9: some point during the evening and said, look, this is
Speaker 9: where I'm from, this is why I'm here, and you
Speaker 9: owe us a lot of money, and you've got bands
Speaker 9: coming into your playing these cover songs and you can't
Speaker 9: do that. So then they had to make a rule,
Speaker 9: no more cover songs. I was in a band at
Speaker 9: the time called the Jinkst.
Speaker 2: And we.
Speaker 9: Just the guy thought this was funny. I didn't think
Speaker 9: it was funny, but you know, because I told them
Speaker 9: we can't play any covers and we're on stage one
Speaker 9: night and they started just to mess with me. The
Speaker 9: the opening part of smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvana.
Speaker 9: Troy started playing that on the guitar and Frank, who
Speaker 9: was our drummer at the time, started playing it on
Speaker 9: the joined him on the drums, and I just sat
Speaker 9: down on the stage with my arms crossed, like, guys,
Speaker 9: we can't do this. And I know you think this
Speaker 9: is funny, but this isn't funny because this actual, real
Speaker 9: world sort of you know, consequences here. You're going to
Speaker 9: ruin our relationship with the venue, who do not want
Speaker 9: to have to pay for us playing the song right now.
Speaker 9: So and they were just you know, they didn't they
Speaker 9: didn't keep playing it. They just played at the beginning
Speaker 9: of it. But it was like, but I did not
Speaker 9: enjoy seeing a panicked face come running into the room
Speaker 9: when they hear what we're doing. It's like, come on, guys,
Speaker 9: let's not jeopardize our relationships here with these venues because
Speaker 9: we need them anyway. But they will do that. And
Speaker 9: I've heard stories and talked to people over the years
Speaker 9: about again. You know, Oh, I've got a tiny hole
Speaker 9: in the wall dive bar on the corner that you know,
Speaker 9: you wouldn't think anyone would even notice was there, you know,
Speaker 9: except for the people who come there to drink. And
Speaker 9: sometimes we have somebody coming with a guitar and play
Speaker 9: a little bit. And one night we had someone from
Speaker 9: BMI come in and put some paperwork down on the
Speaker 9: bar in front of me and said, you owe us money.
Speaker 9: So it does happen. It does happen. So I saw that.
Speaker 9: I thought that was very interesting. Oh, we were going
Speaker 9: to I'm gonna do this in real time live on
Speaker 9: the show because I want to know more about these
Speaker 9: radio groups. One of them is in New Hampshire, and
Speaker 9: I am not familiar with them. Barry Lunderville Radio. I
Speaker 9: want to google this. Who is Barry Lunderville Radio? And
Speaker 9: are they even still in business now? Well, apparently Barry
Speaker 9: Launderville is dead. I guess because I've got an obituary
Speaker 9: here from twenty eighteen. Huh, oh wow, he actually looks
Speaker 9: familiar to me. Barry Lunderville, he died in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 9: says Barry's life was radio. He began his career at
Speaker 9: the tender age of fifteen at WLTN. That da goes
Speaker 9: on and on. All right, I'm just curious, rip Barry Lunderville.
Speaker 9: Oh sorry, you're gone. Whatever. Um, I'm just curious. Are
Speaker 9: these people even still in business now that ASCAP has
Speaker 9: pulled their license? There's a lot of articles here online
Speaker 9: about ASCAP suing them. Oh, they were involved. Barry Lunderville
Speaker 9: was involved in some litigation in Oh my god, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 9: There's an article here from Inside Radio. This is from
Speaker 9: twenty seventeen. His appeal rejected. Lunderville still owes the FCC
Speaker 9: two hundred and forty four thousand dollars. That's a fine
Speaker 9: they got fined for something by the FCC. Oh boy,
Speaker 9: these are some outlaws here at Barry Lunderville Radio says here.
Speaker 9: This is from twenty seventeen. A federal appeals court in
Speaker 9: Boston has rejected an attempt by New Hampshire station owner
Speaker 9: Barry Lunderville to have a financial penalty issued against him
Speaker 9: by the FCC canceled or reduced. The agency ended in
Speaker 9: Lunderville a two hundred and forty four thousand dollars bill
Speaker 9: after he withdrew a bit submitted for a new FM
Speaker 9: during an FCC auction. Okay, not as I thought it was.
Speaker 9: Maybe for something that happened on the air, the FCC
Speaker 9: fined them or something. But no, nothing quite as juicy
Speaker 9: as that. Huh. Well, I don't see again. I see
Speaker 9: a lot of a lot of articles about ASCAP filing
Speaker 9: infringement lawsuits against Barry Lunderville Radio, but I don't see
Speaker 9: anything that indicates are these people even still in business.
Speaker 9: WLTNFM is owned by Barry Lunderville. I'm looking at ltn's
Speaker 9: Wikipedia page. See. I'm wondering if they're off the air
Speaker 9: now because of what's going on. The Wikipedia page doesn't
Speaker 9: have a lot of information. All right, we'll move on
Speaker 9: from that. We'll move on from that. I think I
Speaker 9: do want to fit in one more great track from
Speaker 9: The joy Thieves. I love this project so much. This
Speaker 9: is another single from The Joy Thieves, and again thank
Speaker 9: you for Thank you to Dan Milligan for joining us earlier.
Speaker 9: I really enjoyed speaking with him and I love this project.
Speaker 9: The album is called Apocalypse Pending, the project is The
Speaker 9: Joy Thieves, and this is called I'll be Your Hammer.
Speaker 7: I'll be your hammer, and then we just say it.
Speaker 1: Try to turn me out, but I won't go away.
Speaker 5: You see that all my life with the.
Speaker 1: Needs of friends.
Speaker 4: But I would expect from pizza, make your product, good bags.
Speaker 6: Producted bass, parductlick bags, partect bag.
Speaker 3: Or be a hammer.
Speaker 10: Or be a hammer?
Speaker 3: I see h a hammer.
Speaker 1: I can maybe this way had I cat done, I
Speaker 1: won't go away.
Speaker 7: You try to stuff my life.
Speaker 1: But if tho I don't like the suthing, all I
Speaker 1: know is the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't whether I'm.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 10: Look at me, I don't whether I'm don't make any creep.
Speaker 1: You made a devices, but now on a device said
Speaker 1: I'll be your hour, and this is the price. I
Speaker 1: don't like this, Like I have my ASA shots of
Speaker 1: the seats, the piece of historic blood as it comes
Speaker 1: on giving to serreted, and the room.
Speaker 12: Let's struggle to breathe go aheadles like what flood as
Speaker 12: she struggled to.
Speaker 1: You made a device, but now on a deadvice said
Speaker 1: I'll be.
Speaker 4: Your wo were like, this is the price.
Speaker 1: This is a very gristle. You'll just make me strong.
Speaker 1: You'll try some waiting game strong. It's such good.
Speaker 9: Oh that is so good. I'll be your hammer. The
Speaker 9: project is the Joy Thief. The album is called Apocalypse Pending.
Speaker 9: And I really enjoyed that a lot. I hope you
Speaker 9: did too. Really good stuff. And again thank you to
Speaker 9: uh to Dan Milligan for joining us earlier. One other
Speaker 9: quick music industry news story and then we got to
Speaker 9: get out of here. Uh this just popped up on
Speaker 9: Digital music news dot com. Kanye's anti semitism definitely isn't
Speaker 9: flying in Europe. Prague the latest to shut down a
Speaker 9: YE show. Yeah, this is this is still following him
Speaker 9: his uh anti Semitic comments, and I, you know, I
Speaker 9: wondered it was interesting to see how many people kind
Speaker 9: of you know, held it against him, and how many
Speaker 9: people have kind of forgotten about it. I kind of
Speaker 9: get the impression that for some people, a certain amount
Speaker 9: of time has passed where they're able to look past
Speaker 9: some of the things that he's said. I think he
Speaker 9: came out one point saying, you know, look, I was
Speaker 9: on some medication that made me say these hateful things
Speaker 9: are whatever. I don't know. Kanye doesn't really apologize for much.
Speaker 9: But if you recall, he said some pretty awful and
Speaker 9: very anti Semitic things that anyone else that would have
Speaker 9: ruined their career. But Kanye West somehow has survived. But
Speaker 9: he's having some trouble here again. It's this is from
Speaker 9: Digital Musicnews dot com. The rapper formerly known as Kanye
Speaker 9: West will not be performing in Prague after the venue
Speaker 9: set to host him backed out. It's the latest canceled
Speaker 9: show for the outwardly anti Semitic artist. Kanye West, who
Speaker 9: now goes by Yee, was set to perform in Prague
Speaker 9: as part of his proposed comeback tour, but the show
Speaker 9: has been canceled after the venue set to host him
Speaker 9: backed out. That makes the latest country to say no
Speaker 9: to the noted anti Semitic rapper. By the way, before
Speaker 9: anyone says, well, what about his First Amendment rights? Well,
Speaker 9: it's Prague. It's not the United States. They don't care
Speaker 9: about our constitution, so uh, don't even buy I just
Speaker 9: only I mean that should be obvious to most people,
Speaker 9: but I just know there's going to be somebody out
Speaker 9: there listening, going ooh for some amendment. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 9: different country. Relax. Organized by Slovak producer Hugo Varga, the
Speaker 9: show was scheduled to take place on July twenty five
Speaker 9: at a horse track. It was canceled by venue owner
Speaker 9: Zuzana Rambova, who didn't cite a specific reason for the move,
Speaker 9: but confirmed that the arena quote terminated the organizer's contract. Notably,
Speaker 9: Varga was one of the organizers of a Slovak rap
Speaker 9: festival scheduled for last summer, where Ye was also scheduled
Speaker 9: to perform, but local protests against the event combined with
Speaker 9: logistics concerns that led to the rapper withdrawing from the lineup,
Speaker 9: and the festival was ultimately canceled. Varga defended Ye at
Speaker 9: the time, blaming the failure of the festival on financial
Speaker 9: regulations and asserting that the rapper shouldn't be barred from performing. Similarly,
Speaker 9: Rambova said that Ye should be free to perform despite
Speaker 9: his past anti Semitic remarks. The show in Prague is
Speaker 9: the latest in a series of canceled performances since Ye
Speaker 9: began publicly making anti Semitic statements. In April, the rapper
Speaker 9: was denied a visa to the UK for the Wireless Festival,
Speaker 9: where Ye was announced as a headliner. Ultimately, the entire
Speaker 9: event was scrapped. Just a week later, the rapper postponed
Speaker 9: a planned show in how Do You Say That, Marseilles
Speaker 9: after rumors that French authorities were looking to cancel it.
Speaker 9: Since then, shows in Poland, Italy and other countries have
Speaker 9: also been canceled citing concerns over Yea's anti semitism. The
Speaker 9: rapper successfully performed two shows in the Netherlands on June
Speaker 9: six and June eighth, after the Dutch Deputy Prime minister
Speaker 9: confirmed they investigated his past statements and found no and
Speaker 9: found insignificant legal grounds for borrowing him from the country.
Speaker 9: In late twenty twenty two, if you don't remember, he
Speaker 9: began making anti Semitic remarks on social media, which led
Speaker 9: to a w of cancelations from sponsors and business partners.
Speaker 9: By the way, he also went on the Alex Jones
Speaker 9: Show and declared his love for the Fear. If you
Speaker 9: don't remember, earlier this year, the rapper issued a full
Speaker 9: page public apology in The Wall Street Journal blaming his
Speaker 9: antisemitic remarks on untreated bipolar disorder and a car accident
Speaker 9: he was in years ago. I'm skeptical in those moments.
Speaker 9: I forgot about the full page public apology, but that
Speaker 9: may not have been enough. But that's hard to come
Speaker 9: back from. All right, we are almost out of time.
Speaker 9: Thank you all for joining us today again. Thank you
Speaker 9: to Dan Milligan from The Joy Thieves for joining us,
Speaker 9: and of course Mick Michael's in the first hour who
Speaker 9: also was with us from Corners of Sanctuary and we
Speaker 9: played their new single, their cover of Lick It Up
Speaker 9: by Kiss. Yes, if you don't know lick It Up
Speaker 9: or I'm sorry Kiss, I should say, happens to be
Speaker 9: my favorite band, so I was excited about that. But
Speaker 9: I really enjoyed both conversations. And if you miss any
Speaker 9: part of today's show, it will be up in just
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Speaker 9: everything Jenny is doing. Jencoffee dot com is her site.
Speaker 9: She's up to a lot of good trouble, as she
Speaker 9: likes to say, so I'm not gonna say any thing
Speaker 9: about where she is right now, but she's up to
Speaker 9: something good, so we'll leave it at that. But again,
Speaker 9: thank you everyone who joined me. And I think to
Speaker 9: close out today's show, I think we should do. We
Speaker 9: opened with it, we didn't quite open with it, but
Speaker 9: close to the top of the show we played it.
Speaker 9: I think we should give this to spend one more time,
Speaker 9: partly for selfish reasons because Kiss is my favorite band
Speaker 9: and I really love Corners of Sanctuary their cover of
Speaker 9: the Kiss classic Lick It Up. I think that is
Speaker 9: a perfect way to close out today's show. Thank you everybody,
Speaker 9: Love to you all, and we will talk at y'all
Speaker 9: a little bit later. Bye, everybody.
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Speaker 1: Very sad. It's finally any sense slatting something.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're listening to Matt Connorton Unleashed on WMNH ninety
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