Matt Connarton Unleashed 6-20-26 hour 2

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0:15 Speaker 3: Matt Connorton Unleashed presents the exclusive world radio premiere of

0:19 Speaker 3: the new single from Flock, coming out June twenty four,

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3:44 Speaker 3: Now another exclusive world radio premiere. You heard it here

3:48 Speaker 3: first on w m n H ninety five point three

3:51 Speaker 3: FM courtesy of Matt Connerton. Unleashed coming out June twenty six,

3:55 Speaker 3: the new single from Idle Hive Blood in My Margarita.

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12:00 Speaker 3: That is yours so wired. The band is low Sunday

12:03 Speaker 3: and that is from the Black EP. And we've got

12:06 Speaker 3: the guys Bobby and Shane. Let's see if they are

12:09 Speaker 3: on the phone with us. Hey, guys, welcome to the show.

12:13 Speaker 13: Matt.

12:13 Speaker 14: Hey, it's really nice to be with you.

12:15 Speaker 3: So, uh is this Shane?

12:17 Speaker 13: This is Bobby?

12:18 Speaker 3: Okay, so we got both of you guys.

12:20 Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm saying and Bobby is right here.

12:23 Speaker 3: Wonderful. So Bobby Spell and Shane, how do you say

12:25 Speaker 3: your last name?

12:27 Speaker 14: My last name is Saheen, so a lot of people

12:31 Speaker 14: call it Shaney.

12:35 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, very good, very good. So it's like,

12:39 Speaker 3: uh yeah, so I love the project and I'm excited

12:43 Speaker 3: to talk to you guys, because you actually have you

12:44 Speaker 3: got some history here, you've been around for a while.

12:47 Speaker 3: But it's really but also too we should establish this

12:50 Speaker 3: so I refer to Referudy as a band. But is

12:53 Speaker 3: it really just the two of you in terms of

12:55 Speaker 3: the studio output, is it? Is it just the two

12:57 Speaker 3: of you who record and produce all of this?

13:01 Speaker 13: Well?

13:01 Speaker 14: Yeah, in the last in the last two years, yeah,

13:03 Speaker 14: it's just been the two of us. We sort of

13:05 Speaker 14: reunited and started just just writing and writing and recording. Yeah,

13:10 Speaker 14: and we you know, it was just some these last

13:12 Speaker 14: two EPs. Previous to that, it was full band stuff,

13:16 Speaker 14: and we're migrating back over to full band stuff again.

13:20 Speaker 14: You know, we're finishing an EP soon and we're getting

13:22 Speaker 14: back into a full band starting to play live stuff.

13:25 Speaker 3: Great, excellent, excellent. In terms of what you've done recently,

13:31 Speaker 3: was it just because obviously you did have and and

13:34 Speaker 3: I do want to get into that why you had

13:35 Speaker 3: had a long break with this project, But in terms

13:38 Speaker 3: of getting back into it, was it easier to just

13:41 Speaker 3: kind of start to wade back into it with only

13:44 Speaker 3: the two of you?

13:45 Speaker 1: Is that?

13:45 Speaker 12: Is that?

13:46 Speaker 3: Is that kind of why that that played out that way.

13:50 Speaker 14: Yeah, it just it was just pretty natural. First off,

13:54 Speaker 14: the two of us, Like I'm repetitive because I say

13:59 Speaker 14: this all the time that the two we have such

14:01 Speaker 14: great conversations. And when you're younger, you know, you don't

14:04 Speaker 14: realize that you shouldn't be writing music with people you

14:07 Speaker 14: can have a conversation with. It could take four months.

14:11 Speaker 14: It could take four months to write one song and

14:13 Speaker 14: everybody's burnt out and it doesn't turn out as well.

14:15 Speaker 14: But we're so communicative and yeah, so it was just easy.

14:20 Speaker 14: But really what sort of brought us in Our old

14:23 Speaker 14: label came back and he said, hey, you know, maybe

14:26 Speaker 14: we could start with a twenty fifth anniversary remaster with

14:30 Speaker 14: bonus tracks, and then maybe we'll do the thirtieth anniversary

14:33 Speaker 14: remaster of the other the debut album with bonus tracks.

14:37 Speaker 14: So those bonus tracks is what really got us writing

14:39 Speaker 14: and you know, curating our old material, and it kind

14:44 Speaker 14: of got the studio fired up and the software all

14:47 Speaker 14: updated and the learning curve was pretty crazy.

14:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, but exciting though too, right, I mean

14:55 Speaker 3: I would imagine, you know, after a long break, I mean,

14:58 Speaker 3: did you guys have you each during that? Is it

15:02 Speaker 3: really twenty five years. The low Sunday was was dormant.

15:07 Speaker 3: Is that is that true? Is that accurate?

15:10 Speaker 14: Yeah, it's it's it's kind of comical. I mean we

15:13 Speaker 14: played in other bands and did other things, and we

15:15 Speaker 14: were musically active in different ways. But yeah, we just

15:20 Speaker 14: kind of like like Bobby had moved away. He was

15:22 Speaker 14: in Atlanta, and he was in Mississippi, and he was

15:24 Speaker 14: in Tupelo and where he last left off, he was

15:28 Speaker 14: in Memphis. That we've been talking and it was literally,

15:31 Speaker 14: you know, it was the It was within days of

15:35 Speaker 14: us saying, look you got to fly up here. We're

15:37 Speaker 14: just let's just start recording and writing a little bit,

15:40 Speaker 14: that the label got in touch with us, and the

15:42 Speaker 14: timing was just funny. Like days after that, the label

15:44 Speaker 14: got in touch and said, hey, we need these bonus tracks.

15:47 Speaker 14: Maybe you could do bonus tracks and do this remaster.

15:50 Speaker 14: But yeah, it was it was that long. I mean

15:52 Speaker 14: Bobby had been had left Pittsburgh for what twenty years?

15:55 Speaker 13: Twenty one years? Yeah, wow, Yeah.

15:58 Speaker 14: It's so surreal and we start talking and the numbers

16:00 Speaker 14: it doesn't even make sense, right, you know, it's sort

16:02 Speaker 14: of so abstract.

16:05 Speaker 13: I have since relocated to Pittsburgh. So I'm ok here

16:08 Speaker 13: now I've been back for about a year.

16:10 Speaker 3: Oh excellent, excellent. So do you think so the label

16:13 Speaker 3: when they approached you about these bonus tracks and whatnot,

16:16 Speaker 3: do you think they had an ulterior motive? Like was

16:18 Speaker 3: there somebody at the label going, you know, if we

16:20 Speaker 3: can just get these guys to do these bonus tracks,

16:22 Speaker 3: maybe maybe this will lead to something more.

16:28 Speaker 14: You know, that's kind of funny. We don't really think

16:31 Speaker 14: that way. We always think like one dimensionally that we

16:35 Speaker 14: really don't think that. I mean, in this case, I

16:38 Speaker 14: think he was just saying, hey, look, you're really not

16:42 Speaker 14: representing your catalog. We're Bobby and are both sort of

16:46 Speaker 14: like flash and burn types, you know, where it's like okay,

16:48 Speaker 14: we're doing that, and like now we're moving on. We're

16:50 Speaker 14: going to do this, and we just believe in the

16:52 Speaker 14: creative aspect of things, and we're saying, you know, whatever

16:56 Speaker 14: wherever it goes, we can leave it in the dust

16:58 Speaker 14: because we have more songs than us and if if

17:00 Speaker 14: no one ever hears that again, we have more music

17:03 Speaker 14: in our future. We believe in it, like the abundance

17:06 Speaker 14: of creative ideas. So we were never too connected to anything,

17:10 Speaker 14: you know.

17:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's something well, there's something kind of

17:14 Speaker 3: liberating about tattoo though, isn't there.

17:19 Speaker 14: Well, the fact that it's not a reality, you know,

17:21 Speaker 14: like it's sort of like a delusional reality.

17:26 Speaker 13: They seem to be much more streamline with the two

17:29 Speaker 13: of us.

17:31 Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

17:32 Speaker 14: From a writing standpoint, it's you if you're sensitive, you

17:39 Speaker 14: get into real delicate things. You're deep into ideas and

17:42 Speaker 14: you don't want to get into a tug of war

17:44 Speaker 14: over ideas. And you know, you have a vision and

17:47 Speaker 14: it's really hard to compromise a vision. And yes, we

17:52 Speaker 14: do work best that way a bit. You know, we

17:54 Speaker 14: are coming out on the other side of that too.

17:56 Speaker 14: We have a couple of people playing with us now

17:58 Speaker 14: that are just incredible musicians. They understand what we're doing.

18:03 Speaker 14: They're they're not fighters. There's somebody that understands and just

18:06 Speaker 14: want to make things better. Yeah, So it just takes

18:10 Speaker 14: the right people. It's like anything. The difference between things

18:15 Speaker 14: going great and going terribly is the people that are involved.

18:20 Speaker 7: Oh.

18:20 Speaker 14: Absolutely, Chemistry is everything. I mean, chemistry is everything.

18:26 Speaker 3: Well, and you guys have to be kind of picky

18:28 Speaker 3: too about who you bring into the project, right, because

18:30 Speaker 3: you obviously have such a bond. I mean it sounds

18:32 Speaker 3: like it's it's almost intuitive right with the two of you.

18:34 Speaker 3: So anybody who you bring in has to be able

18:36 Speaker 3: to not necessarily match that energy, but at the very

18:40 Speaker 3: least not disrupt it either.

18:42 Speaker 14: Right, Totally, Yeah, totally. It's very sensitive. It's kind of

18:47 Speaker 14: it's actually kind of scary because we both know. We're like, wow,

18:50 Speaker 14: we're so sensitive and these things you know, you take

18:52 Speaker 14: for granted, like like a momentum or the stability of

18:57 Speaker 14: ideas and direction that we're both so sad inositive that

19:01 Speaker 14: you know, you get the wrong ingredient in the mix,

19:05 Speaker 14: and we're like, wow, what if something somebody would try,

19:08 Speaker 14: it could derail us. We're committed to not letting anything

19:11 Speaker 14: like that happen. Yeah, you know, we feel more stable

19:15 Speaker 14: at this point in our lives than probably when we

19:18 Speaker 14: were younger and more sensitive.

19:20 Speaker 13: Sure, we did already have a familiarity with both of

19:23 Speaker 13: these guys we brought in them, so well that help

19:26 Speaker 13: them for quite a while.

19:27 Speaker 14: Yeah, they're actually old friends and they totally get it.

19:30 Speaker 14: It's it's we've never experienced things opening up and just working,

19:35 Speaker 14: you know, like we're talking about like, oh, it's just

19:37 Speaker 14: the universe provides and all this stuff. It's been actually

19:40 Speaker 14: scary to us how it's just sort of this path

19:43 Speaker 14: keeps opening. We don't understand. I mean from Shauna, it's

19:47 Speaker 14: shameless that that's been working with us for the last

19:50 Speaker 14: you know, this last year, just opening these different roads

19:54 Speaker 14: and connections. And when we were younger, we tried so

19:57 Speaker 14: hard and we worked so hard and so hard, and

20:01 Speaker 14: now it's it's just different. It's like everything is just

20:04 Speaker 14: falling into place in a way that it feels sort

20:06 Speaker 14: of serendipitous.

20:07 Speaker 3: Yeah. Shout out to Shanna by the way, because she's

20:10 Speaker 3: sends us so many great guests. That's you know, that's

20:12 Speaker 3: how we met you guys through her obviously, and you know,

20:16 Speaker 3: anybody she sends us we automatically will book because she

20:19 Speaker 3: she only works with, you know, really high quality artists

20:23 Speaker 3: like you guys.

20:24 Speaker 14: So well, thank you. Yeah, she's been amazing, and we

20:28 Speaker 14: said ourselves, what have we done to deserve her? You know,

20:31 Speaker 14: she's enriched our lives. I mean just on a personal

20:34 Speaker 14: level too, not just the business, but just connecting with

20:37 Speaker 14: someone who is sharp and who cares, and it's just

20:41 Speaker 14: you feel like you have people going the same direction

20:45 Speaker 14: together and it's kind of you know, you hope that

20:47 Speaker 14: rising tide list.

20:48 Speaker 3: Cell boats right right exactly. So so we talked about

20:53 Speaker 3: how the reunion came about. What was it that caused

20:56 Speaker 3: the band's long absence to begin with. I mean you

20:59 Speaker 3: kind of allude to it, like you guys are kind

21:01 Speaker 3: of flash and burn types anyway, So maybe you were

21:03 Speaker 3: never that connected to it in the beginning. I don't know,

21:06 Speaker 3: like what, because again, that is a long that's a

21:08 Speaker 3: quarter century of no Low Sunday.

21:12 Speaker 14: I know, well, early on, we're I mean we're deeply,

21:16 Speaker 14: deeply committed. Early on, I mean we worked very hard,

21:19 Speaker 14: we pushed hard, we tried everything. I mean, we were

21:21 Speaker 14: working and we were going through you know, we had

21:24 Speaker 14: a couple of really stable lineups and things go really

21:28 Speaker 14: well and then something would fall apart and then there

21:31 Speaker 14: was like a burnout with that. I think the last

21:34 Speaker 14: thing that kind of we did a record in ninety nine.

21:38 Speaker 14: That record we finished, we went to England and promoted

21:41 Speaker 14: it for like five months. Everything fell apart when we

21:44 Speaker 14: went there. Nothing went right.

21:45 Speaker 6: Oo.

21:46 Speaker 14: We came back from England right before Christmas and we

21:52 Speaker 14: started working. We had been distributing through Projects Darkwave's catalog

21:56 Speaker 14: for years with other material, but we finally got signed

21:59 Speaker 14: to Project and Project was going to re release the

22:02 Speaker 14: same record that we had been promoting and pushing already,

22:06 Speaker 14: so we had to re It's like would do a

22:09 Speaker 14: round two promoting the same record? Just all those things.

22:13 Speaker 14: This led to us kind of just we just got

22:15 Speaker 14: cooked somehow. I don't know what happened. Yeah, in the

22:19 Speaker 14: self preservation, it's always been for the creative, like anything

22:23 Speaker 14: that and where like this Now, anything that starts to

22:27 Speaker 14: threaten the creative, the love to do, with the desire

22:30 Speaker 14: to do it, anything that does that will run to

22:32 Speaker 14: save the creative. It's like it's like protecting the egg.

22:36 Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense.

22:38 Speaker 14: Yeah, but yeah, sometimes it's been very self sabotaging. We're

22:42 Speaker 14: trying not to do that. These days, we're more focused

22:45 Speaker 14: and definitely more aligned. Yeah.

22:47 Speaker 3: Well, when you talk about thinks, you know, because I

22:48 Speaker 3: love these kind of music industry war stories. When when

22:51 Speaker 3: you talk about you went to England and just everything

22:53 Speaker 3: went wrong, like like, what do you mean, like what

22:55 Speaker 3: kinds of things went wrong? I know you don't want

22:57 Speaker 3: to relive that probably, but just just just give me

23:00 Speaker 3: just a little bit.

23:02 Speaker 14: Well roughly, you know, we got there in the in

23:04 Speaker 14: like the middle of summer, after finishing a record in

23:06 Speaker 14: the spring. Yeah, we were having we're the record wasn't

23:11 Speaker 14: even pressed yet, it was we had a DAT tape

23:15 Speaker 14: that we took to Olympic Olympic studios in London and

23:20 Speaker 14: we're having CDRs made that we were starting to pass out.

23:23 Speaker 14: We're pursuing a manager over there that ended up being

23:27 Speaker 14: in the Bahamas all summer. We thought, we're gonna we're

23:31 Speaker 14: just gonna go to him. We're going to find him.

23:32 Speaker 14: We're just gonna go there. We're going to give him

23:33 Speaker 14: our stuff. He's going to love us. Yeah, and you

23:36 Speaker 14: know the rest is history. Well, we get there, we

23:39 Speaker 14: call him and yeah, like they said, oh, he's on holiday,

23:42 Speaker 14: like he won't be back until so he was gone

23:44 Speaker 14: for two months. Then the rest of our lineup couldn't

23:48 Speaker 14: the other band members couldn't come over, and then we're

23:51 Speaker 14: trying to put a band together through the melody maker.

23:53 Speaker 14: And then with melody maker, the ad we place, they

23:56 Speaker 14: put the wrong contact information. They were no. We lost

24:02 Speaker 14: like a month to a typo and melody maker before

24:05 Speaker 14: we could get that corrected and then we just it

24:08 Speaker 14: was just it was pure chaos. You know, we didn't

24:11 Speaker 14: have we were trying to find a place to live.

24:13 Speaker 14: And if you didn't, if you weren't there at ay

24:15 Speaker 14: thirty in the morning to see an apartment, it was

24:18 Speaker 14: gone by nine o'clock and we're living an upside down

24:21 Speaker 14: nice you know, we're out all night to go look

24:25 Speaker 14: for an apartment. So it was just everything just kind

24:28 Speaker 14: of went wrong. Yeah, and it cost of living was crazy,

24:31 Speaker 14: So yeah, we just it kind of fell. It was

24:33 Speaker 14: a great experience. We got to hang out with the

24:38 Speaker 14: late Nick marsh from Flush Fulluluve. That was probably the

24:41 Speaker 14: highlight of our whole trip. We were hanging out in

24:43 Speaker 14: Camden with some of the old old timers like that.

24:48 Speaker 14: Everything else went completely wrong.

24:50 Speaker 3: And you know, just for context too, for people who

24:53 Speaker 3: don't realize, this was at a time when I mean,

24:55 Speaker 3: it wasn't it wasn't pre Internet, but it was certainly

24:58 Speaker 3: pre certain pre social media, and so in terms of

25:02 Speaker 3: communicating with people and logistics and all of it, it

25:07 Speaker 3: still was much tougher than what we have today in

25:10 Speaker 3: that regard.

25:11 Speaker 14: So yeah, oh yeah, totally. Yeah, you're like you're dealing.

25:15 Speaker 14: Like cell phones were starting to come up a little bit,

25:17 Speaker 14: they're improving, yeah, but you'd have being in another country,

25:21 Speaker 14: you have to have a burner phone, even the burner phones,

25:25 Speaker 14: Like I could talk about things going around the burner phones.

25:27 Speaker 14: It was like their advertised you would buy like an

25:29 Speaker 14: eighty dollars prepaid thing and it was supposed to be

25:33 Speaker 14: for one pence a minute, you know, for international phone calls.

25:37 Speaker 14: They were so scammy that you would be on the

25:39 Speaker 14: phone for ten minutes and it would use up here

25:41 Speaker 14: eighty pounds.

25:42 Speaker 13: Yard that you just bought.

25:43 Speaker 14: Oh yeah, like just all these things just kept getting

25:46 Speaker 14: It was just kind of funny. It was all our

25:49 Speaker 14: fault for just being naive.

25:50 Speaker 11: You know.

25:51 Speaker 3: Well you were young, and you know, yeah that a

25:54 Speaker 3: lot going on, you know, But but you guys so

25:58 Speaker 3: so after it stopped though, I mean, you guys both

26:00 Speaker 3: went on to you wouldn't play it in another band.

26:02 Speaker 3: So it's not like you guys left the music industry, right,

26:05 Speaker 3: I mean you both stayed there.

26:07 Speaker 14: Not at all, Yeah, not at all.

26:08 Speaker 3: That's good.

26:09 Speaker 14: Yeah, maybe at least for a good ten years after that,

26:12 Speaker 14: we were heavily active in different projects, and you know,

26:17 Speaker 14: just just pushing in different directions, you know, creatively, when

26:22 Speaker 14: you do what you do naturally, you start to creatively

26:26 Speaker 14: you start saying, well, am I just doing? Am I

26:28 Speaker 14: being creatively lazy?

26:29 Speaker 11: Like?

26:29 Speaker 14: Can I can I write like we do all this

26:32 Speaker 14: atmosphere atmosphere crazy delay and echoing stuff, and it's it's

26:36 Speaker 14: dark and it's dreamy, and it's all this stuff like

26:39 Speaker 14: pushing ourselves. Like for me, it was like getting back

26:42 Speaker 14: to more like the punk rock roots that I grew

26:44 Speaker 14: up with, like saying, you know, these songs are really straight?

26:46 Speaker 14: Can I write a straight song without hiding behind fog

26:51 Speaker 14: machines and effects and all this kind of stuff? You

26:54 Speaker 14: want to creatively challenge.

26:55 Speaker 3: Yourself, you know, right right now? I'm curious too for

26:58 Speaker 3: both of you, when when you put Low Sunday aside,

27:04 Speaker 3: you know, after your terrible experience and all of that,

27:07 Speaker 3: was it was it kind of like at the time,

27:09 Speaker 3: did you think, okay, so this is in the rear

27:12 Speaker 3: view mirror, now now we're just each going to go forward?

27:15 Speaker 7: Or was it?

27:17 Speaker 3: Was it always and you know you both might have

27:19 Speaker 3: too completely different answers, so I'm curious or or was

27:22 Speaker 3: it always kind of in the backs of your minds

27:25 Speaker 3: that you know, we will probably revisit this someday.

27:30 Speaker 14: Bobby, Shane and I.

27:35 Speaker 13: Even after I moved away, Shane and I continued to

27:39 Speaker 13: discuss music and share ideas. Yeah, so I think there

27:45 Speaker 13: was always sort of a dream that maybe we would

27:48 Speaker 13: come back together at a point. Yeah, didn't really have

27:51 Speaker 13: an idea of the reality of that or not, but

27:54 Speaker 13: I think it on some level we viewed it as

27:58 Speaker 13: a possibility if things lined up properly.

28:01 Speaker 12: Yeah.

28:01 Speaker 14: In the band, for me, I mean like Lost of

28:04 Speaker 14: the Ghost Machine that was that was sort of for me.

28:07 Speaker 14: I was like a coming of age man. That's where

28:09 Speaker 14: you know, you go through the teenage stuff. You go through,

28:11 Speaker 14: like we go through the punk rock, you go through

28:14 Speaker 14: like the first heartbreak stuff, and then you know, I

28:17 Speaker 14: find myself in my early twenties and you know, like

28:21 Speaker 14: I'm hearing these songs, these heartbreak songs, like I remember

28:23 Speaker 14: my sister playing like all these new wave kind of classics,

28:26 Speaker 14: Like she was always deep into all this other, this

28:29 Speaker 14: whole other side of things, and you kind of go

28:32 Speaker 14: through that dark period. And so when I came out

28:34 Speaker 14: of all that stuff, I sort of felt sort of

28:36 Speaker 14: forced with that sort of that background, and so this

28:41 Speaker 14: project is always felt like like my first like sort

28:45 Speaker 14: of a baby too, like where you say, this is

28:48 Speaker 14: who I am and this is what I do and

28:50 Speaker 14: this is where I'm comfortable. Yeah, I never wanted to

28:53 Speaker 14: abandon it so much, and we always were maybe thinking

28:56 Speaker 14: of an opportunity to get back, you know. I felt

28:58 Speaker 14: like it would never go away, right, just like when

29:01 Speaker 14: will our heads be in the right space to to

29:05 Speaker 14: elaborate on those ideas more deeply?

29:08 Speaker 3: Okay, no, that makes sense. I feel like too, that

29:11 Speaker 3: the sound you guys have is sort of timeless. That

29:14 Speaker 3: I don't know how you feel about these labels, and

29:15 Speaker 3: I'm curious to know, like shoegaze and dark wave, but

29:18 Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like the sound that you

29:22 Speaker 3: have is timeless and that you know it. We listen

29:25 Speaker 3: to something like You're So Wired. It sounds current, but

29:28 Speaker 3: it also sounds like it could have come out in

29:30 Speaker 3: the nineties, you know what I mean?

29:32 Speaker 7: Uh?

29:33 Speaker 3: And I feel like that, And I feel like these

29:35 Speaker 3: these genres like shoe gave, dark, shoe gaze, dark wave,

29:38 Speaker 3: they kind of lend themselves to that. There's a certain

29:40 Speaker 3: timelessness to that whole that whole sort of vibe and

29:43 Speaker 3: that production style and all of that. But I mean,

29:46 Speaker 3: how do you how do you guys feel about those labels?

29:48 Speaker 3: I mean, do you do you call yourselves shoegaze? Do

29:51 Speaker 3: you call yourselves dark wave? Do do you care about that?

29:55 Speaker 3: Or do you let other people just kind of decide

29:57 Speaker 3: what to call you or.

29:59 Speaker 14: Well, Like it's it's funny because it's like, just as

30:03 Speaker 14: you're saying, like, the Internet was kind of weak at

30:05 Speaker 14: that point. Yeah, so a lot of the genre genre

30:09 Speaker 14: banding stuff was also weak. So there's people that you

30:13 Speaker 14: know when early on people didn't know how to what

30:15 Speaker 14: to call us. You know, we like we were like, well,

30:18 Speaker 14: is it gloom pop?

30:19 Speaker 7: Is it?

30:19 Speaker 14: Is it synth wave?

30:21 Speaker 7: Is it?

30:22 Speaker 14: It was post punk? But there wasn't a real heavy label,

30:25 Speaker 14: even shoe gets. There wasn't a hardcore like hard term

30:29 Speaker 14: really for that. I mean it was maybe it's really

30:31 Speaker 14: small circles, but broadly there wasn't. Right, we don't mind

30:35 Speaker 14: all the labels. It's funny like now with all the

30:38 Speaker 14: sublet we've found ourselves, we're looking back, we're saying we

30:41 Speaker 14: were a gloom waves band from the beginning, and it

30:44 Speaker 14: was a genre that over the years it starts to

30:47 Speaker 14: come to life, and we're saying we're like archetypal gloom

30:50 Speaker 14: Waves and didn't didn't know it, you know, And it's

30:53 Speaker 14: it's sort of like retroactively, you're able to label things

30:58 Speaker 14: more easily, right, But we we don't mind the labeled.

31:01 Speaker 12: We like it all.

31:01 Speaker 14: I mean, the dark wave stuff we relate to. Even

31:05 Speaker 14: our first real good distribution in the mid nineties was

31:09 Speaker 14: through Project Project Has. It had a distribution catalog called

31:13 Speaker 14: the dark Wave Catalog, and we're distributing through dark Waves,

31:17 Speaker 14: So that was sort of our definition of that. We

31:19 Speaker 14: just thought it was, you know, what it is exactly?

31:21 Speaker 14: I don't I still can't define, right, But no, we

31:24 Speaker 14: don't mind. We don't mind the labels.

31:26 Speaker 3: It's it's all good, Okay.

31:27 Speaker 14: We feel like we never fit exactly in the one yeah,

31:30 Speaker 14: which is challenging.

31:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's yeah. It's funny because when you and

31:35 Speaker 3: the way the industry works, it's it's helpful in a

31:39 Speaker 3: marketing sense if you're if you can be categorized and

31:42 Speaker 3: sort of labeled and but but creatively, I think it's

31:46 Speaker 3: probably more fulfilling if it's hard to label you and

31:50 Speaker 3: categorizing you know what I mean, because then you feel, yeah, yeah,

31:53 Speaker 3: you know you're doing something truly interesting. If it's hard

31:56 Speaker 3: for people to put a label on it, well what's funny?

32:00 Speaker 14: Or early on, you know, like someone would someone would

32:03 Speaker 14: pin us to say, oh, you're a goss band, and

32:05 Speaker 14: we would do We did the same thing that we

32:07 Speaker 14: grew up, watching the bow House and echoing the Bunnymen

32:10 Speaker 14: and the Cure. You watch all these other people, they're like, no,

32:13 Speaker 14: we're not, No, we're not like we you. I think

32:16 Speaker 14: the best thing we could do is anytime you just deny,

32:19 Speaker 14: you think you keep this denying saying well, no, I

32:22 Speaker 14: don't think we're that. I don't think you know, we

32:24 Speaker 14: denied ourselves sort of into like obsolescence, right, We're not that,

32:31 Speaker 14: We're nothing. We're not.

32:33 Speaker 3: I'm curious who about the name? So originally so when

32:36 Speaker 3: you formed in nineteen ninety four, it was Low Sunday

32:38 Speaker 3: Ghost Machine. Correct, yeah, yes, and then and then it

32:42 Speaker 3: became and eventually just Low Sunday as one word. But

32:46 Speaker 3: but where does the name come from?

32:47 Speaker 6: What?

32:47 Speaker 3: What is the meaning of that?

32:49 Speaker 14: Uh, the Sunny Ghost Machine is Actually it was a combination.

32:55 Speaker 14: It was partly a rip off. At the time, one

32:57 Speaker 14: of my favorite pants in the world was the Bend

32:59 Speaker 14: Low Life. Low Life. I thought were like it should

33:03 Speaker 14: rule the planet, and like I connected with them. It's like, ah,

33:09 Speaker 14: low it is a great word, loads a great really

33:11 Speaker 14: good word, like a strong word. And then I went

33:14 Speaker 14: through a series of things. It's hard to describe it.

33:20 Speaker 14: I would maybe just say like emotional uh low points

33:24 Speaker 14: where it felt like this. I was like, wow, there's

33:26 Speaker 14: like this almost like a systematic punishing sort of thing,

33:31 Speaker 14: and why it always feels like it's like Sundays and

33:34 Speaker 14: it's like Sunday night and like could you end up

33:36 Speaker 14: in the clink? You know, like what is this whole

33:39 Speaker 14: oppressive force? And it was sort of out of that,

33:45 Speaker 14: you know that we just sort of spun this thing.

33:47 Speaker 14: And then what's funny is the music was sort of

33:49 Speaker 14: like almost an extension of that and that like we

33:52 Speaker 14: used a lot of fog machines. It was like this

33:54 Speaker 14: this big, swirly kind of mess.

33:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

33:58 Speaker 14: It was almost captured the emotion, the feeling that that

34:02 Speaker 14: was actually the origin of the whole project.

34:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that uh that makes sense. It's cool,

34:09 Speaker 3: dude to have a name that makes people curious. But

34:12 Speaker 3: when you so when you shortened it, when you shortened

34:14 Speaker 3: it to low Sunday, was that was that the label

34:17 Speaker 3: wanting that?

34:17 Speaker 14: Or it was in nineteen Uh, it was like nineteen

34:24 Speaker 14: ninety seven. We had we had just played with the

34:28 Speaker 14: band Klana's Imox. We had just done a show with

34:30 Speaker 14: them in Pittsburgh. It was like a highly publicized show.

34:32 Speaker 14: It was the best show we'd ever played.

34:34 Speaker 3: Yeah.

34:35 Speaker 14: They were on a record label at the time called Test.

34:37 Speaker 14: Test was like a dream pop label from Santa Barbara.

34:41 Speaker 14: The main guy in his band was this Ascension, and

34:46 Speaker 14: this ascension was you know, they had already been to

34:48 Speaker 14: them really well in that world. They had signed Clanna's Imox,

34:52 Speaker 14: who was killing it at the time, and so we

34:56 Speaker 14: had we had opened for Clana's Imox. You know, we

34:58 Speaker 14: get on their bus after the show and we got

35:00 Speaker 14: offered a record deal right there. We signed it. I

35:04 Speaker 14: don't know whatever happened. It completely fell through one years later.

35:07 Speaker 14: I think what happened, it was the biggest disappointment of

35:10 Speaker 14: our lives because we're like, oh, you know, Zymox is

35:13 Speaker 14: working with the same producers as The Cure and they're

35:16 Speaker 14: getting their records mixed by you know, John Rivers or

35:20 Speaker 14: you know all this David al and all these crazy people,

35:23 Speaker 14: and we were like just again naives. But at the

35:28 Speaker 14: same time talking to the label, it was like, you know,

35:30 Speaker 14: it might be better to just a shorten the name.

35:32 Speaker 14: It'd be much easier. I still regret it because I

35:34 Speaker 14: like the long name better.

35:35 Speaker 3: Oh really, which is why we.

35:36 Speaker 14: Keep tagging it into Yeah, I love the long name.

35:40 Speaker 14: And again talking about like pre Internet and all that stuff,

35:42 Speaker 14: I was tired of typing that name.

35:44 Speaker 3: Yeah it was.

35:45 Speaker 14: It was like so many letters and words that I thought, yeah,

35:49 Speaker 14: if we can shorten it, let's shorten it, you know,

35:51 Speaker 14: like I'm sick of typing the word or all the

35:54 Speaker 14: word the name, you know.

35:55 Speaker 3: So yeah. I'm also curious to ask you about the

35:58 Speaker 3: video for your so wire this it's pretty cool, like

36:03 Speaker 3: how did did you collaborate with somebody on this? Or

36:07 Speaker 3: was this diiy or I mean it really fits the

36:10 Speaker 3: vibe of the song. I like the black and white

36:13 Speaker 3: aesthetic of it. I like everything about this, and I

36:16 Speaker 3: encourage people not right now stay with us for now,

36:18 Speaker 3: but after the show, please everyone go to YouTube and

36:22 Speaker 3: look up low Sunday you're so wired and check out

36:24 Speaker 3: this video.

36:25 Speaker 13: But yeah, thank you.

36:27 Speaker 3: What can you tell us about this video?

36:30 Speaker 14: Well, the video, it's it's pretty interesting because we've done

36:33 Speaker 14: a whole series of videos over the last year. Yeah,

36:37 Speaker 14: he actually was a close friend originally from with Bobby

36:41 Speaker 14: and you might eat his name's jar Herring and jar

36:43 Speaker 14: Herring like he had a lot of music success too,

36:46 Speaker 14: Like he was in the band Dink if you remember

36:48 Speaker 14: the Van dnk Okay nineteen nineties, they hosted like one

36:52 Speaker 14: underd twenty minutes, and they had done really well there

36:54 Speaker 14: on Capitol. They were doing all this crazy stuff and

36:56 Speaker 14: really talented. But Jarre started getting into doing videos and

37:01 Speaker 14: him and Bobby had stayed in touch, but chair with

37:05 Speaker 14: each video that he does for us, we sort of

37:06 Speaker 14: let go a little bit more and just he kind

37:08 Speaker 14: of leads us into a direction. He wants the lyrics,

37:12 Speaker 14: he wants to know what's going, you know, with the

37:14 Speaker 14: songs roughly about and then he just sort of interprets

37:18 Speaker 14: it in a way and then we sort of collaborate

37:20 Speaker 14: a little bit just to tweak it. But he's just

37:22 Speaker 14: he's been nailing it for us, and he captured something

37:26 Speaker 14: in the last one but yeah, an the aesthetic, the

37:28 Speaker 14: black and white aesthetic is something that we're really you know,

37:31 Speaker 14: we're really kind of clinging to a black and white

37:33 Speaker 14: aesthetic right now. And I think goes to the timeless

37:36 Speaker 14: thing that you're talking about. Just it's something it's less,

37:40 Speaker 14: you know, let's you can't really read it. You don't

37:43 Speaker 14: know when, when or where it.

37:44 Speaker 3: Was right right, Yeah, No, it's it's very cool. Like

37:47 Speaker 3: I said, I encourage people to check it out. And

37:49 Speaker 3: the other thing too, that you know, we haven't talked

37:50 Speaker 3: about that I want to touch on, is you know,

37:52 Speaker 3: the concept of the black EP and the white EP.

37:57 Speaker 3: Very curious about that obviously, that's you know, that's that's

38:00 Speaker 3: an interesting approach. Was that your idea was that the

38:03 Speaker 3: label like, like who who came up with that? Because

38:06 Speaker 3: it's very interesting?

38:08 Speaker 14: Well, yeah, that was something we wanted to do. First off.

38:13 Speaker 14: We wanted to we like the more immediate gratification of

38:17 Speaker 14: the EPs, you know where you're because we had found

38:20 Speaker 14: you know, like even even with the remasters, you know,

38:23 Speaker 14: by the time you had a twelve song album and

38:26 Speaker 14: five remixes or old material that we had added in

38:31 Speaker 14: like bonus tracks, we felt like a lot of stuff

38:33 Speaker 14: was just getting kind of falling between the cracks. Yeah,

38:36 Speaker 14: we're saying, you know, let's just put out five strong

38:38 Speaker 14: songs and they'll be out quickly, they'll be heard.

38:43 Speaker 12: You know.

38:44 Speaker 14: It's like paying attention to five things instead of seventeen things,

38:47 Speaker 14: right right, But yeah, that the white and the black

38:51 Speaker 14: where it became. The first idea was like, Okay, these records,

38:55 Speaker 14: it's going to be the two covers are part of

38:57 Speaker 14: one bigger picture. It's going to be a vertical post.

38:59 Speaker 14: When you put the one on top of the other,

39:01 Speaker 14: it'll line up and it's like this brutallest image this artwork.

39:05 Speaker 14: And it starts lighter the white ep is it's blown

39:07 Speaker 14: out a little more, and as it goes into the

39:08 Speaker 14: black epe that covers even darker. It just has a

39:11 Speaker 14: gradient to sort of captured the feel. So we knew

39:16 Speaker 14: there's gonna be two EPs. We also knew that we're

39:22 Speaker 14: sort of so excited getting in the studio that we

39:24 Speaker 14: knew that like sort of the manic aspect where you

39:27 Speaker 14: first get in and you're excited and you're you're pumping

39:29 Speaker 14: out this this stuff that shows all this enthusiasm and excitement.

39:33 Speaker 14: We knew that was going to settle down and you know,

39:36 Speaker 14: you come back to your real self which might be

39:38 Speaker 14: not quite as peaked out. Sure, and that so the

39:42 Speaker 14: Blackupe we knew we kind of thought it would kind

39:45 Speaker 14: of go that direction, and we kind of wanted to

39:47 Speaker 14: push it that way too, to get back to some

39:49 Speaker 14: of our darker roots and see how far we could

39:52 Speaker 14: go that direction.

39:53 Speaker 3: Also, yeah, yeah, no, I like it. It's att yeah,

39:57 Speaker 3: I say yeah.

39:58 Speaker 13: It was just fun.

39:58 Speaker 14: It was like one of those things. It wasn't super

40:00 Speaker 14: planned out, just it just all sort of made sense

40:03 Speaker 14: on a real It was probably a five minute discussion.

40:06 Speaker 3: Well, it's an interesting uh you know, because it it

40:08 Speaker 3: kind of addresses an interesting conundrum that exists in twenty

40:13 Speaker 3: twenty six that did not exist in the late nineties

40:15 Speaker 3: or mid to late nineties, you know, in that how

40:20 Speaker 3: do you you know, what do you do? There's so

40:22 Speaker 3: many different ways to release music now. You could release

40:24 Speaker 3: an album, you could release EPs, you could release a

40:27 Speaker 3: series of singles. You know a lot of artists now

40:29 Speaker 3: kind of do the inverse of what used to be

40:31 Speaker 3: the model where they release a series of singles that

40:34 Speaker 3: eventually coalesce into an EP or an album.

40:38 Speaker 14: You know, and that's totally yeah.

40:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting conundrum because you know, you got

40:44 Speaker 3: to feed that machine, you know, in terms of algorithms,

40:46 Speaker 3: you got to think about that and social media and

40:48 Speaker 3: all of it.

40:49 Speaker 14: So yeah, so I think doing the EPs attention, the

40:53 Speaker 14: attention thing has shifted, you know, to even our own

40:56 Speaker 14: you know, where people are content with, you know, ten

41:00 Speaker 14: second clips. You know, like you could almost see a

41:02 Speaker 14: future where your whole album is ten second clips, right

41:07 Speaker 14: and people just swipe it, swipe it, swipe it, and

41:09 Speaker 14: you're like, and you know, forty seconds later, like that

41:12 Speaker 14: was a great album.

41:15 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, Well listen, guys, this has been wonderful. Shannon, Bobby,

41:21 Speaker 3: I really appreciate you both joining us today on the show.

41:25 Speaker 3: In a couple of moments, sure, absolutely, In a couple

41:28 Speaker 3: of moments, we're gonna play We're gonna end our conversation

41:31 Speaker 3: with another great track that I love, This is Not Heaven.

41:35 Speaker 3: Anything anything you can tell us about this one, anything

41:38 Speaker 3: we should know before we play it.

41:41 Speaker 14: We've thoroughly enjoyed recording that song. Just as it started

41:46 Speaker 14: to come started to come to life. It was very angular,

41:53 Speaker 14: like the conjecting, the like the sort of the grally

41:56 Speaker 14: kind of sense stuff and to the choruses, it was

42:00 Speaker 14: one of the and it was kind of fun to

42:01 Speaker 14: do it as an understatement, you know, like it's sort

42:03 Speaker 14: of understated. It's like a real calm sort of like

42:07 Speaker 14: like a subtle like this is not heaven, you know,

42:09 Speaker 14: like in other words, like this is how right right?

42:12 Speaker 14: But it was fun just to creatively do something with

42:16 Speaker 14: like that's just a huge understatement of a situation.

42:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I like it a lot. This is

42:22 Speaker 3: a really good track. And before we do that too,

42:24 Speaker 3: and before we let you guys go, where's the best

42:26 Speaker 3: place to go online? To keep up with everything that

42:28 Speaker 3: Low Sunday is doing.

42:32 Speaker 14: We tend Instagram. We're really focused. That seems to be

42:36 Speaker 14: our most comfortable outlet, you know, where we seem to

42:41 Speaker 14: be the most active. It does trickle off into Facebook

42:44 Speaker 14: and even on a lesteral level like TikTok.

42:47 Speaker 3: Sure.

42:48 Speaker 14: But yeah, but our main two hubs would be either

42:53 Speaker 14: of our band camp, like for instance, our label Project Project.

42:58 Speaker 14: They're really band camp centered, like everything is on Project

43:02 Speaker 14: is a Project's band camp. That's where you buy all

43:05 Speaker 14: our records or our t shirts. You can buy their

43:08 Speaker 14: whole catalog is there. It's been a really interesting platform.

43:11 Speaker 13: Yeah.

43:11 Speaker 14: But yeah, so band Camp and Instagram, those are the

43:14 Speaker 14: two big ones for us.

43:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a big I'm glad you mentioned band Camp.

43:18 Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of band Camp. And if Shawna

43:20 Speaker 3: happens to me, if she happens to be listening, I'm

43:22 Speaker 3: sure she's heard me say this a thousand times. But

43:25 Speaker 3: what a lot of people don't realize about band Camp too,

43:27 Speaker 3: is if you get the music from there, you get

43:29 Speaker 3: a higher quality file then you do if you're just

43:32 Speaker 3: say streaming it from YouTube or or in some instances

43:35 Speaker 3: perhaps even Spotify. Like with band Camp, you get a

43:37 Speaker 3: high quality file, which is important.

43:40 Speaker 14: It's such a nice platform. It's such a nice platform.

43:44 Speaker 14: It's just it's like a dashboard that makes managing the

43:48 Speaker 14: whole deal, like really really easy. And I say that

43:50 Speaker 14: as if I know what I'm talking about. That from

43:53 Speaker 14: what I hear, it's amazing.

43:54 Speaker 3: No, it's true, it's true. It's very artist friendly, and yeah,

43:58 Speaker 3: it's an incredible platform. So we're a big We're big, yeah,

44:01 Speaker 3: you know. And they don't they don't pay us. We're

44:03 Speaker 3: not they don't sponsor the show or anything. I just

44:05 Speaker 3: say that because I think band camp is amazing and

44:07 Speaker 3: I'm always I'm actually to be honest, Oh go ahead.

44:11 Speaker 14: I know, yeah, we say it the same way as you.

44:14 Speaker 14: It's like, what's amazing, it's such a such a strong

44:17 Speaker 14: platform and there's no catch right. No, it's not like, well,

44:20 Speaker 14: here's where they get you. You know they're going to

44:21 Speaker 14: try to It's just it works so well, it's so

44:24 Speaker 14: tied together. I mean, it couldn't be a more perfect platform.

44:27 Speaker 14: You hope nobody comes along and ruins it.

44:28 Speaker 3: Oh I know. Yeah, I was gonna say. I'm always

44:31 Speaker 3: surprised when I encounter artists who are not on band camp.

44:33 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, what are you doing? Like why

44:35 Speaker 3: aren't you? Yeah, the encounter a surprising number of artists

44:40 Speaker 3: who are not, but but they should be.

44:43 Speaker 14: Well, you're a musician too, right, yes, yes, I thought

44:47 Speaker 14: that was my understanding. You're a musician too.

44:48 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I'm a bass player. I don't I'm not

44:51 Speaker 3: currently active because, as you know, it's a it's a

44:54 Speaker 3: lot of work.

44:56 Speaker 14: But yeah, you have to really fit it into your space.

45:00 Speaker 14: That's cool too. Yeah, we love we're both huge bass fans.

45:03 Speaker 3: Oh nice, nice, outstanding, outstanding, Well, listen. We'll let you

45:07 Speaker 3: guys go. We're going to hit this track This Is

45:08 Speaker 3: Not Heaven, but again, thank you so much Shane and

45:11 Speaker 3: Bobby from Low Sunday and we'll definitely do this again

45:14 Speaker 3: in the future. It sounds like you guys got a

45:16 Speaker 3: lot going on, so we look forward to more uh

45:19 Speaker 3: more music from you and uh you know, we'll definitely

45:22 Speaker 3: have you back.

45:23 Speaker 14: Yeah, maybe we'll see you in Manchester nearby sometime. We're

45:26 Speaker 14: going to start playing some shows, so we'll see we

45:28 Speaker 14: ever get up that way, we'll.

45:29 Speaker 3: Let you know, keep us posted absolutely absolutely all right,

45:33 Speaker 3: sounds good.

45:35 Speaker 14: All right, thanks so much.

45:36 Speaker 3: All right, you got it, guys, you got it anytime.

45:38 Speaker 14: Thank you, Take care, great meeting, carefu, bye bye bye.

45:42 Speaker 2: All right.

45:43 Speaker 3: That is Shane and Bobby from Low Sunday and let's

45:47 Speaker 3: go ahead and hit this track, another great track from

45:49 Speaker 3: the Black EP. I really like this a lot. This

45:51 Speaker 3: is called This Is Not.

45:53 Speaker 15: Heavens sat.

47:10 Speaker 2: Shots, stensst listen to.

47:33 Speaker 5: Inst shots, statist Table, sat.

49:09 Speaker 11: Pass shows.

49:29 Speaker 16: St Oh.

50:07 Speaker 3: That is This is Not Heaven from Low Sunday from

50:10 Speaker 3: the Black EP. Thank you to those guys, Shannon Bobby

50:13 Speaker 3: for joining me today on the program. I really enjoyed

50:16 Speaker 3: talking with them. I've become a fast fan of Low Sunday.

50:19 Speaker 3: I love their sound. I love their sound so much

50:23 Speaker 3: that we're gonna sneak in one more. Let's play Shattered.

50:27 Speaker 3: We'll play one more Low Sunday track from the Black

50:29 Speaker 3: EP and and then after that we will show some

50:32 Speaker 3: love to our amazing sponsors. But we have time. Let's

50:35 Speaker 3: play one more. This is Shattered by Low Sunday.

51:00 Speaker 5: Shot shot.

51:48 Speaker 2: Show ship. That's so, that's.

52:28 Speaker 5: This side show.

52:53 Speaker 2: Show shows.

53:16 Speaker 3: So I love it. That is Shattered by Low Sunday.

54:41 Speaker 3: And again, thank you to Shane and Bobby from Low

54:43 Speaker 3: Sunday for joining us today on the program. I loved

54:46 Speaker 3: talking with them. I just got a very nice follow

54:48 Speaker 3: up email from Shane apparently they enjoyed it as well,

54:51 Speaker 3: and so, yeah, great guys. I really like talking with

54:53 Speaker 3: them and love their sound. So absolutely we might hear

54:58 Speaker 3: we might hear a little more Low Sunday the third hour.

55:00 Speaker 3: I'm not sure because so we have an interesting dilemma here.

55:05 Speaker 3: So live radio, the adventures of live radio, and that

55:09 Speaker 3: is one of the exciting things about live radio is

55:11 Speaker 3: that anything can happen. I'm building this up to be

55:14 Speaker 3: much more exciting than it is. It's really not exciting

55:16 Speaker 3: at all, but a potential problem that we have. So

55:19 Speaker 3: our guest in our number three great all female punk

55:23 Speaker 3: band from the UK called Beaker. I'm very excited to

55:26 Speaker 3: speak with them, really like what they're doing. I even

55:29 Speaker 3: made a radio edit of one of their songs just

55:31 Speaker 3: so I could play it on the show. They have

55:32 Speaker 3: a song called Sally Said that I love, but I said,

55:35 Speaker 3: I have to make a radio edit of this. I

55:37 Speaker 3: cannot play this as is. So I did that and everything.

55:42 Speaker 3: Here's the problem. So a little bit of a breakdown

55:45 Speaker 3: in communication. They told me in an email that they

55:50 Speaker 3: would like to use WhatsApp for the interview, but they

55:55 Speaker 3: never gave me the phone number. We have many guests

55:59 Speaker 3: who join us via WhatsApp, but I need to know

56:02 Speaker 3: what phone number to call using WhatsApp. And I was told, yes,

56:07 Speaker 3: we would like to use WhatsApp. Okay, Well I need

56:09 Speaker 3: to know the number. And I sent another email this

56:13 Speaker 3: morning before the show saying, hey, I need the number

56:16 Speaker 3: to call and I have not received a reply. So

56:20 Speaker 3: I don't know if that interview is going to happen

56:22 Speaker 3: today or not. Now, if it doesn't, the good thing

56:24 Speaker 3: about a show like this is we can always pivot.

56:27 Speaker 3: We do other things on the show too. In addition

56:29 Speaker 3: to interviews, you know, we also do a lot of

56:32 Speaker 3: music industry news, which is always fascinating, especially in these

56:35 Speaker 3: times of AI and the impact that it's had on

56:39 Speaker 3: the music industry that it is having, that it's continuing

56:42 Speaker 3: to have. And you know, there's always somebody suing somebody,

56:45 Speaker 3: there's always a scandal or a controversy of some kind.

56:48 Speaker 3: Love those those are really good for social media engagement too,

56:51 Speaker 3: trust me, I would know. So I don't know what's

56:55 Speaker 3: going to happen in the third hour. It's all an adventure.

56:58 Speaker 3: Maybe I'll finally hear back from them. Maybe I'll hear

57:01 Speaker 3: back from them part way through the third hour, so

57:03 Speaker 3: we'll still be able to get them on, but it'll

57:05 Speaker 3: just be a little bit late. I don't know what's

57:07 Speaker 3: going to happen, and but it is. It is exciting,

57:11 Speaker 3: is it not. It's the adventure of live radio, and

57:13 Speaker 3: I do fully embrace it because well, you kind of

57:17 Speaker 3: learn to. I've been doing this for a while, do

57:21 Speaker 3: you know. It's been in April, Yeah, in April of

57:27 Speaker 3: this year. It's been nine years that I've been here

57:30 Speaker 3: at WM and H doing this show live, and so

57:35 Speaker 3: it's uh, you know, you learn, you'll learn that sometimes

57:39 Speaker 3: things go wrong. So far, everything's been very smooth today.

57:41 Speaker 3: But I have no idea if you are listening live

57:44 Speaker 3: on Saturday, I have no idea if Beeker is joining

57:48 Speaker 3: us in the third hour or not. They may not,

57:51 Speaker 3: and then I have to make some decisions while do

57:53 Speaker 3: I still play one of their songs or do I

57:56 Speaker 3: get really mad that you know, they didn't tell me

57:59 Speaker 3: the way number and refuse to play them, or no,

58:03 Speaker 3: things do go wrong and miscommunications do happen, and so

58:06 Speaker 3: I'm always I tend to be very forgiving and flexible.

58:09 Speaker 3: Like I said, it's not like it recks the show.

58:11 Speaker 3: We can always pivot. It's very easy to pivot. So

58:13 Speaker 3: I've been at this a while. But we'll see. So anyway,

58:17 Speaker 3: that's my long winded way of saying, if you are

58:19 Speaker 3: here listening to us live on Saturday, coming up in

58:22 Speaker 3: the third hour, we might have Beaker on the show.

58:26 Speaker 6: I hope.

58:26 Speaker 3: So I hope it works out. I'm excited to talk

58:28 Speaker 3: with them. If not, we'll do something else. But the

58:32 Speaker 3: point is we're coming to the close of our number two,

58:35 Speaker 3: so we are going to show some love to our

58:37 Speaker 3: amazing sponsors here at WM and H, of which we

58:39 Speaker 3: have many, many great sponsors, and we will see what

58:43 Speaker 3: happens in the third hour, so stick around. It's always

58:45 Speaker 3: an adventure. Nana's Kitchen and Pizzerin.

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58:59 Speaker 4: That's great, slow fermented dough flavors, so true.

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