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1:52 you with a symmony of boundless auditories. Won dude, you m ahl rip

2:00 the dobles. Yeah, see sitting and living room. Your life's gone by

2:32 way too soon, which we can be going back in the bad. We

2:38 live by the times they win to face rob towns now we shall now.

2:45 I know you did knockings. You were seeking around with another dude. I

2:51 can't stand up be packing soon. I'm running away. I'm leaving today.

3:00 I call me by. Sorry to lead you sallow. I'm running away.

3:09 Oh, I'm leaving today. I'm coming back tomorrow. Sorry, lead you

3:17 sou Yeah. I was making my child for an hour or two. The

3:23 thought of being somewhere else alone with you having me shook up and shake him.

3:29 Don't know what to do? So where you from? Where you ban

3:37 up from? My heaven? Done nothing? And I don't really want to

3:40 be the one who got caught. I'll start alwayting all away, And I'm

3:46 saying I'm running away. I'm leading to day. I call me by,

3:57 sorry to lead you sallow, I'm running away. Oh, I'm leaving today.

4:05 I'm coming back tomorrow. Sorry, leading with surrow. So where you're

4:15 from? Where you been? Not from about heavens, noting noth there?

4:19 And I don't really want to be the one who got caught. Duck,

4:24 don't wasting all away. I'm running away. I'm leaving today. Hell,

4:31 I'm coming back tomorrow. Sorry, you don't leave you and say, oh

4:36 yay, I'm hunting away. I'm leaving today. I'm coming back tomorrow.

4:47 Sorry, you don't leave you a son, yay, I'm running away.

5:08 That is running away. That is two towns band here on matt Connerton,

5:12 unleashed on this Saturday morning. It is Saturday, June twenty two, twenty

5:17 twenty four. Jenny is here as well at the news table. Aunt of

5:21 for and by the way, thank you again so much to Mary Peters and

5:25 Sue Smith from the Sister Witch Company for joining us in the last hour,

5:29 and of course in the first hour today we had a Jus Old Rebel.

5:31 I think I'm saying his name correctly. Hill, Yes, yes, But

5:35 right now we have with us the members of Two Towns Band. We have

5:40 Zach and James with us here live in studio. How are you guys?

5:43 Good met? Yeah, welcome, welcome. Yeah. I love your as

5:46 I was saying off here. I really like your sound. You guys sound

5:48 great. And that track that's been getting some airplay you mentioned the River in

5:53 Boston. Yeah, we were featured a few weeks ago on the new upcoming

5:58 music Homegrown I think it is. But yeah, yep, yep, they

6:01 played a couple of weeks ago and that was a song that we featured on

6:03 it. So that's off our last our first debut album that we put out

6:08 two years ago. Now Shell City okay, okay, oh fantastic, And

6:14 we do have some other songs of your Sue that we'll be playing today.

6:15 And uh uh it was nice. I didn't have to make any radio edits.

6:19 There's no swears, which is nice. Keep it, keep it pretty,

6:23 We keep it pretty clean, at least at least for now. I

6:25 only imagined that because our first, our first guest today who we love.

6:30 He was excellent, a Jue's old rebel. He was great and very positive

6:33 and everything. But I had to make some radio edits of his songs which

6:35 had much editing, which I don't mind doing. I do it all the

6:40 time, but for for people who are going to be on the show if

6:43 I really want to play their stuff. But he was he was very uh.

6:46 He took me a while. So it's always nice one. It's always

6:49 nice one. I can say, Jenny yea. I didn't have to do

6:50 any radio ads this time. It was great. How long have you guys

6:55 been around? So this started like I want to say, three three to

7:00 four years ago. It was me and another buddy and we both came from

7:03 two different bands when we were in high school. So I was in this

7:08 band called Insider, and we actually did pretty well in Vermont for a while.

7:11 We like played Higher Ground and did a bunch of shows there. We

7:14 were actually on ninety nine The Buzz a few times out there too. And

7:17 he was in this other like rock band. They were called Prohibition. So

7:23 his name was Hunter Myers and me and him started this right before, like

7:27 right after COVID started, Like we realized that the whole five piece band thing

7:31 was gonna go away for a while, and we were like, Okay,

7:33 how can we keep this going while still like making music and like going out

7:40 and playing during the pandemic, So that that all happened, We recorded an

7:45 album during the pandemic. After that, we just got on the road,

7:47 started touring pretty much anywhere we could in the Northeast. And then I think

7:53 it was about a year and a half ago and Hunter moved to Indianapolis to

7:59 start doing some other projects. So James really came in a clutch in this

8:03 last few months here, and I was like, hey, what do you

8:05 play guitar? What are you doing? I need somebody to fill this spot

8:11 and start doing shows again and start getting this like back up to where we

8:13 had it before, where we were like playing every week three four times a

8:18 week and recording albums and putting stuff out. And he really stepped up and

8:24 just came in and did what he had to do. So now it's going

8:26 great again. Well that must have been a big relief, right because it's

8:28 scary when I mean I know from my own experience, it's it's scary when

8:33 you have a project that has a lot of momentum and you feel like you're

8:35 really getting somewhere with it, and all of a sudden, the bottom falls

8:37 out because somebody says, yeah, I'm not gonna be here anymore. Yeah,

8:41 yeah, it was. It was nerve racking at first, and then

8:43 I was like, Okay, it's fine. There's people can play guitar,

8:46 Like, there's people out there who know how to play guitar, and honestly,

8:48 it was hard finding somebody for a while. It Yeah, yeah,

8:52 like nobody, nobody really lived up to the standard. I'm like super perfectionist

8:56 and like, yeah it had to be like really good to where I needed

9:00 to be. And yeah, James just came in and did exactly what needed

9:03 to be done. Excellent, excellent. Did what Was it a challenge for

9:07 you, James coming in and learning the because obviously, like like Zach said,

9:11 he's a perfectionist. Was that a challenge for you. Yeah. I

9:13 got my first guitar about a year ago on my birthday. So I'm like,

9:18 oh, I'm extremely Wow, he's doing he's stepped up. He's good.

9:22 Yeah, so we had our first show at the end of May I

9:24 think it was May thirst and then it was the beginning of the March.

9:28 We worked together another job. I showed up with my guitar and he said,

9:31 oh, you play guitar? Would you like to join the band.

9:35 I didn't know it was gonna pick up this much or get it big,

9:37 but yeah, yeah, oh that's awesome. Yeah, it's like fate.

9:41 Yeah, is that at a job you guys? Is that how you guys

9:43 mad at work? Or yeah? So that we work for a marketing company,

9:46 like outside of doing two towns and stuff. So it just kind of

9:50 worked out like we were just away at an event somewhere. I think we're

9:54 in like Pennsylvania or something. He had his guitar with him. I'm like,

9:56 oh, you're gonna you're gonna be with me now, like you're gonna

10:01 cancel your summer you're doing shows. Yeah, wow, excellent, excellent.

10:05 So now on the on the tracks, on the recorded track, So who

10:09 else is on or do you guys do everything between the two of you?

10:13 So chel City came out before James's time, That was before James, but

10:18 Hunter actually did the drums and everything on that, and he did all like

10:22 the mixing, mastering, recording. Fantastic audio engineer. But other than that,

10:26 vocals, guitar, and I think most of the bass was me.

10:30 Okay, yeah, doing all that. And then on the running Away feature,

10:33 we have a Luke Bolt he's one of the original members of Prohibition too

10:37 with Hunter there, and we got him to do a little feature on there

10:39 and he just knocked it out of the park. Oh cool. What does

10:41 he do on the track? He did? He does like the little outro

10:46 verse towards the end there. Okay, yeah, okay, So what happens

10:50 live is it just do the two of you just play live, and yeah,

10:56 it's the two of us. Usually James is just like leaning the way

10:58 with the guitar and then I'm just kind of in the background a few chords

11:03 and all the vocals are coming from me and we're we're getting enough to speed

11:05 on the vocals be harmonies very soon here. Yeah. Yeah. So when

11:09 you play live, it's a stripped down like you're not using any kind of

11:11 a backing track for the drums or anything like a stripped down like doing stuff

11:16 off of Shell City, doing covers and stuff we and just playing everywhere that

11:20 we can. Is there any kind of a long term plan to have a

11:26 full band or or do you like doing it? I would imagine there's a

11:30 lot of advantages to it just being the two of you in terms of fucking

11:33 shows and all of that. I mean, yeah, there's there's advantages to

11:35 doing it just the two of us. I mean, like we get paid

11:41 more both, and they like it's definitely easier, like logistically because we just

11:46 show up with two speakers and a few cables and guitars and it's a show.

11:50 I think we've done the big band thing before, Like we Two Towns

11:54 actually played Higher Ground two years ago. It was one of our last shows,

11:58 and Higher Grounds and you and Verma, I don't know if you're to

12:01 it, it's like, yeah, it's great, we love it. And

12:03 we played with a full band there and it worked out pretty well. It

12:05 was kind of like we grabbed the Hunter played drums, we grabbed the other

12:11 guitarists we were working with at the time, Jackson Garrow, and then we

12:13 grabbed my old bassist, Zach Hayes from Insider and we were just like,

12:16 hey, we're gonna be a band for one night, and we're all gonna

12:20 play and it's gonna sound awesome. And it went good, and I think

12:24 moving forward it would definitely just be like having like a session session drummer,

12:28 or having like a guitarist or a bassist or something like that. I don't

12:31 think we would ever want like change the core of the group. I think

12:35 I just keep that to the two people who are really invested in it.

12:39 Yeah, no, that makes sense. Yes, yeah, that makes a

12:41 lot of sense. Higher Ground is that? Is that where Green Jelly just

12:46 played, where they had the incident where they got shut down three songs in

12:52 green Jelly might have been. Yeah, yeah, I've seen Green Jelly at

12:56 Higher Ground. I was just looking at that. Yeah, that was it.

13:00 They were here last weekend. I saw that. I saw him,

13:01 like je was there. They're coming back through in August. Really all right,

13:07 but yeah, so they played it was higher Ground. Yeah, so

13:09 they played, they got three songs in, and they got shut down.

13:11 I guess, uh really, something something to do with Bill's pants hanging from

13:16 the chandelier. I guess I guess that's a deal breaker. Yeah, all

13:20 right, playing in the playing in the small room over there, put your

13:24 pants on the chandeliers? That no, no, yeah, well, I

13:26 don't he I don't know who put them there. I mean, you know,

13:28 I don't know if he put them there himself or I mean I don't

13:31 I don't know the details. I don't know how they got there. Yeah,

13:33 I don't know how the pants got off of Billing onto the chandelier.

13:37 But I assume he was playing the music at the time. It may not

13:39 have been Bill's fault. I don't know. I don't know, but uh,

13:43 yeah, it didn't go well. It was pretty h Yeah. Yeah,

13:46 it looked like a wild scene. Are you guys doing a lot of

13:48 shows. We're playing a lot. Yeah, we're playing out of our minds.

13:52 We actually have a show later today up in a Waterville. We're playing

13:54 the Waterville Valley town Square. Oh cool, providing that the weather holds up

13:58 for us, which I think it's going to hopefully. Yeah. And two

14:01 nights ago we were at l Street down in Hampton Beach, and then last

14:05 week we were at Telly's and Epping and we're playing Shane's and Hampton. We're

14:09 playing in Boston. We're playing at the Bebop Music Hall later in September.

14:15 We got pretty much anywhere that you can house a band. We're getting in

14:18 there, yeah playing, Yeah, that's excellent, excellent. Well, let's

14:22 play another one of these studio tracks. I'll let you pick what should we

14:26 what should we do next? We haven't played go to STU. I like

14:33 Overdue. I think Overdue is one of the stronger ones that I've written.

14:35 Overdue. Okay, we'll do that one next, and uh maybe maybe the

14:41 next one after that, I'll reveal what my favorite is of the one.

14:43 Oh, I have a personal favorite. I think I know what it's going

14:46 to be. Yeah, all right, well we'll we'll find out. We'll

14:50 find out. But in the meantime, this is Overdue. The band is

14:54 a two towns band. They are here with us, live in studio.

14:56 We have Zach and James here with us. But check the South. This

15:00 is called Overdue. Mm hmm. I feel nothing. I'm rusting without you,

15:30 no desire, I'm tired, asking nothing through. I'm lost in my

15:37 head. A lot feels over to still riding and I'm trying to make it

15:43 through. But I new that Iskar and I new I can't take this say

15:54 anymore. So if you love me, the leave me, just let me

16:00 go, Deny And I'm crying I was getting true and if you want me,

16:04 lead me, love you, because maybe I love it's just overdo.

16:11 If you love me, be love me, if you love me, if

16:21 you love me, if you love me, you love me, if you

16:32 love me, if you love me, I'm reathless. I'm breathless. I'm

16:42 broken too. I'm lying deciding that I don't need you. Which way at,

16:53 sir, I'm so confused. I'm empty. You just let me feel

16:57 something new. I know that is getting nod and I can't take this say

17:11 anymore. So I love me to leave me. Just let me go,

17:17 Tony, and I'm crying. I'm asking true. If you want me,

17:21 lead me, love you this, maybe I love it. Just still me

17:26 too. If you love me, if you love me, if you love

17:34 me, if you love me, if you love me, you love me,

17:48 if you love me, if you love me, That's just one thing

17:56 I asked to be us that you help me to me Gazzaly Joe, love

18:02 me, you love me, if you love me, if you love me,

18:15 if you love me, love me. I love that. That is

18:25 overdue. The band is Two Towns Band, and we've got the guys from

18:30 the band here with us live in studio. Zach and James are here with

18:33 us on this Saturday morning here on w m n H. Yeah, great,

18:37 great song. I love it. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. How many

18:44 how many original songs do you guys have as a as a unit our entire

18:48 album, Chel City? I think it is. I think I want to

18:52 say nine. I want to say nine songs. That's just what we have

18:55 out, Like, we have plenty more ready to go. We're actually working

18:57 with a Blackheart studio right now and we're gonna get some awesome We're gonna get

19:00 some dates in in the fall here in September where so we're thinking about doing

19:06 this, uh little cover album sort of thing. So we're gonna call it

19:10 two Towns Covered Up. Okay, it could be fun, and we're gonna

19:12 do five ish cover songs and then we're just gonna like throw in make maybe

19:18 five six more originals. Just start getting the ball rolling. So you're gonna

19:22 be recording with Eric Sotter, I yeah, I believe, I believe.

19:25 So, Yeah, we had him on. It was a few months ago

19:26 now, we we finally had him on the show, and uh, I

19:30 had said to him, you know, it's great to finally have here because

19:33 your name comes up all the time because his name comes up all the time,

19:36 YEP on the show and he's he's amazing. No, that's very cool,

19:40 very cool. So the the the album that that you had done,

19:44 where was where was that recorded in Hunter's basement? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

19:49 he did all the record like we did all the recording there, the

19:52 mixing, mastering, like everything was just done in his basement. Wow,

19:56 came out way better than we expected. Really, Yeah, for a basement

20:02 di y album, it came out good. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

20:04 you know, with the technology that's available today, you can really I mean

20:07 you can, you can really get some you know. I mean obviously what

20:11 you get out of out of Blackhart is going to sound better than better than

20:15 anything you've yet. I'm sure, I'm sure, but no, but that's

20:18 I'm genuinely surprised though, that that was all done, because, like I

20:21 said, all these tracks they sound really really good. Yeah, thank you?

20:23 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So when you do you know, when

20:30 you when you start recording the next one, start in like September twenty if

20:36 September twenty first ish, like right around that range. We're gonna start doing

20:41 these like next songs and start getting them out. So Yeah, we're going

20:45 to record it, have it all done and recorded by the end of September,

20:48 and then hopefully for an early winter release we will be a full album.

20:53 Yeah, we're trying to make it a full album. Good yep,

20:56 good. Now are you what's the writing process? Like, are you guys

21:00 writing together or are you are you doing most of it Zach or how does

21:03 that work with so so far we haven't done any like me and him sitting

21:10 down in a room just being like, Okay, we got to write something,

21:12 put the ideas together, and get hit out there. Yeah. Like

21:17 the stuff that we have right now is just stuff that's like been in the

21:19 back pocket for a while and being like, Okay, we're gonna record eventually,

21:22 and then we have fifty shows in three months and they're like, oh

21:26 record, yeah, so let's save it for next year. And then we

21:29 have another fifty shows in three months, are like, Okay, we're gonna

21:33 save this again, and then so eventually we're just here now after Shell City,

21:37 and we still got those songs in the back pocket, so those are

21:40 ready to go. We'll probably get those out on this next upcoming project with

21:45 Blackheart, and then anything past that will be written by me and James collaboratively.

21:49 Okay, okay, excellent. Are there any plans to re record anything

21:55 from Shell City or I want to redo Overdue? Yeah, you were saying

21:59 something about that off air. Yeah, yeah, I want to redo Overdue,

22:02 Like it's I think that for having it been been like written in fifteen

22:07 minutes, I think that it's one of the strongest lyrical songs that we have.

22:11 Yeah, there's just so much raw emotion and passion that I put into

22:15 that song when writing it, which I don't even know where it came from.

22:17 Like I was in a good place. I was like, oh,

22:18 freshman year of college, You're like, yeah, have fun with all my

22:22 buddies, and then it's like, Bam, let's write a sad song.

22:25 I don't know where it came from, but hey, it came out good.

22:27 Yeah. Yeah. What is it that you don't like about the because

22:30 I think it sounds phenomenal. I like it. I think like when it

22:33 goes into like the chorus part I the original version that we had, the

22:41 vocals were much higher, raspier, and more They had more feeling and more

22:47 tone to it, and I want to get back to that. The only

22:48 thing that we didn't why we didn't do that on Shell Cities because we had

22:52 a version of it before that we had put out and it wasn't doing as

22:56 well as we had thought, Like it was some audio issues with it with

23:00 like it clipping and stuff and just not sounding like the professional standard that we

23:03 wanted it to. So I think if we get back into Blackhart, it'll

23:07 be a lot easier to get the sound that we want and have the audio

23:11 quality not be compromised. Yeah, oh that makes sense. That makes sense.

23:15 Now, when when you guys play live, do you do any covers

23:18 or is it all originals or yeah, we do, we do covers,

23:22 originals, everything. So I mean our usual set, what are we going

23:26 on like to twoish three hours? Our usual set? Oh wow, okay,

23:30 I know we're we're playing like two ish three ish hours at like bars,

23:33 pubs and again everywhere we can play, and we do quite a bit

23:37 of covers, And I just think our covers sometimes like I like to I

23:44 like when we're told that our covers sound better than the original version that so

23:48 we were playing, I think we're playing Telly's last week and there was like

23:52 a bunch of people at the bar and I love their new open concept thing.

23:56 They like got a stage and everything surrounded now instead of like in the

24:00 corner like we were a couple of years ago. But yeah, so we

24:03 had There was people at the bar and they came up to us after.

24:04 There's like, man, that Zach Bryan's song. He doesn't he doesn't hit

24:08 those notes live, And I'm like, oh, yeah, we we try

24:11 to be different and try and do stuff that like the people who are playing

24:15 these big shows out there aren't doing, because like we want to bring we

24:18 want to bring like as much of the experience as we can to them and

24:22 just try and sound as authentic as we can. Yeah. What what song

24:26 we were doing? Burn Burn Burn Zach Bryan? Okay, Yeah, and

24:30 when he gets to the end there he goes, let me go down that.

24:32 Yeah. I was like hitting those notes and like getting them correct,

24:37 and people just loved it. You know, They're like, well we saw

24:41 him live and he didn't do that. I was like, yeah, well

24:41 we try and be the best. Yeah. No, that's and that's validating,

24:45 right when somebody says that to you, that's amazing. Yeah, it's

24:48 it's great. We love to hear it. Yeah, yeah, do you

24:51 do any obscure covers where people don't necessarily know o their covers? Yes,

24:53 oh my god. Yeah, well we're playing we're playing el Street the other

24:57 and he's like, are you guys just playing covers? Are this originals too?

25:00 And just like it's both. We hadn't played any originals yet. Yeah,

25:03 yeah, it's both. We're getting there, but it's both for now,

25:10 like like like what what what what's an example of like an obscure one?

25:14 Gosh, Miles Smith, Yeah, Miles Smith. He's he's getting up

25:18 there. But like we play Solo by Miles Smith, and that's a pretty

25:21 obscure one. Yeah. I think like for non like college students, Kilby

25:26 Girl would be another. Yeah, that's that's a new favorite. Rus like

25:30 killby Girl by the Backseat Lovers. We started playing that a couple of weeks

25:33 ago and it's hasn't reached this way to the older audience yet, but it's

25:37 getting there. Yeah. I think another one we play that's really obscure Disco

25:42 Nights. I honestly don't even know who that's by. It's obscure to me.

25:45 Yeah. I think it was like one of those TikTok songs, just

25:49 like yeah, let's play that, right, Well, let's let's play my

25:56 favorite. Now. You said you you think you you can get us?

26:00 Which one is my favorite of the track? Seat you want to guess that

26:03 you guys sent rhyme? Yeah? Am I right? That's the one,

26:11 is it? Yeah? So weird? This was not that song was not

26:15 like intended to ever be a song. Really. Yeah. So me and

26:19 Hunter where we were just in his basement one night. It was me and

26:22 him and his brother, his girlfriend, like a bunch of friends, were

26:25 just like, I bet I could write a pop song. Like we were

26:29 probably like hanging out and doing stuff, and like I was like, oh,

26:30 I could write a pop song. I could do that. It's easy,

26:33 And like an hour later this was created. Well, yeah, apparently

26:37 it is easy because yeah, it's a great track and it's yeah, I

26:41 know what you mean about it being a pop song. It's catchy as hell,

26:44 and it's the length of a pop song. It's only two minutes and

26:48 forty seconds. Yeah, so you're coming in under that three minute that's perfect

26:52 for radio. I think that was the point where like, oh, radio

26:56 pop songs, Yeah, anybody can do that. And we just did it

26:57 in an hour and you did it. Yeah, well you did it well.

27:02 So I love it. So let's give this a listen. So this

27:04 is method and the rhyme. The band is two Towns band. You're in

27:08 studio. Check this out. If you give me one more chang, maybe

27:26 just let me in. I just need a second time. Then you're on

27:33 my mind. I'll must spend my wings in fly and I need to second

27:41 time. I just want to buy my side. Just slay with me tonight.

27:48 I guess you need a little bitter time to me. You're on the

27:53 method and the vibecause I'm just getting overbeat. I am another beeat. I'm

28:00 just really sick of it. You get to auger around in beginning, choose

28:06 the things. I'm gotta do this. They just offer me beat. I'm

28:12 just really sick of it. It's all on my head and my bed.

28:15 Wasn't the monsters in mouth? Let me they rise here to night better than

28:19 that. The other thing that I said, now what I meant was gonna

28:22 said all the text you said. Okay, not understand the things you said.

28:33 This I'm the thing, not just scale them. I guess you need

28:41 a little bitter time to figure auto method and right because I'm just getting over

28:48 me. I had that and up with it. I'm just really sick of

28:52 it. You get to aug around he beginning, chose the things I'm gotta

28:57 do. I am just up, just really sinking BE. I guess you

29:07 need a little bit of time to be here at the method and rhyme because

29:12 I'm just getting up with be. I'm just really saying compete. Don't get

29:19 to ug around he beginning, just the things I'm gotta do this. I

29:26 am just up, just weed to say be. That is method and the

29:45 rhyme. The band is Two Towns band and they are here with us live

29:51 in studio, and uh yeah, it's like it's so catchy, like I

29:56 start swaying back. I don't do that to everything. That's true, It's

30:00 true. I really do like that song. Yeah. I love all of

30:04 your music. Really, you have an amazing sound. Yeah, thank you

30:07 very much. You know, it reminds me a little bit. I think

30:10 it's in the vocal, the way you singing it reminds me a little bit

30:11 of Maroon five. It's funny because I really don't even like Maroon five,

30:15 but I like that song. All right, that's good. But when I

30:19 when I first listened to it, I was like, the vocal reminds me

30:22 of somebody, and I think it reminds me of him. All right,

30:25 I can hear it a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because

30:26 you know, because your vocal approach is a little different on that one too

30:30 than the other tracks. I feel, oh yeah, but yeah, no,

30:32 that's really good. But you were you were also saying off air,

30:34 you don't like playing that one live necessarily. We I've played that song live

30:38 one time. Oh no, I played that song live one time, and

30:41 that was at Higher Ground and we were we weren't gonna play it live.

30:45 We weren't gonna play live. It was not in the set list. And

30:48 sure enough, it's everybody's favorite song. So at the end of the show,

30:52 they're just like chanting method in the rhyme and like, okay. So

30:55 Hunter had to just play it on his computer and then me and another guy

30:59 were working with at the time, Jackson Garrow, we just got it on

31:00 stage, like I said, one microphone in each hand and just kind of

31:04 did it. And it just feels so unnatural. Yeah, so not have

31:08 a guitar or something in your hand, and I just yeah, it just

31:14 don't play it live other than that wow wow fidget. So you can have

31:18 something and it's gonna be it's gonna be something. Yeah, yeah, guitar,

31:22 how about a guitar? No strings uses? Yeah you uses hold a

31:26 guitar and not not play it. I don't know. Yeah, I can

31:30 be there to fiddle. I think it's a great song. I think you're

31:33 missing something playing it not playing it live. I gotta tell you see what's

31:36 gonna you know what's gonna happen. Right, that's gonna end up being a

31:37 huge hit, even even if you don't push it. Somehow, radio stations

31:41 are gonna pick it up, and then you're gonna be forced to and then

31:44 we're gonna have to be a pop band. And then and then some day

31:47 no, and then someday you're gonna be on a big tour going, oh

31:51 I hate playing that song, but you're gonna feel obligated. That's gonna be

31:55 your encore because it's gonna be this massive yep. That's what's gonna happen.

31:59 Yeah, that's like, hey, you know that song is gonna be big.

32:01 It's like why because it's good? Yeah, it sounds good, but

32:07 like it when you're when you're recording it, or you're like, Okay,

32:09 this is great like pop song, it's gonna be catchy, sounds awesome,

32:13 and then like when it's done and you've listened to that same ARPEGGI hated No

32:19 maybe five thousand times and like you're just hearing it, and then it comes

32:22 out that night, you're like all excited and you hear it, You're like,

32:24 ah, should have been different. Yeah. It's also I feel like

32:28 it's a little like removed from our other tracks. Yeah, clearly it's oh

32:30 yeah pop not we're more like country indy, but right, so it changes

32:35 the pace of the shows if we did play it live, which would be

32:37 nice. But it's also you know that jumping from Zach Bryan to that to

32:42 like ever do is completely different. Yeah yeah, yeah, No, I

32:45 can see that definitely definitely, So you won't be that that's not one that

32:51 you're gonna be uh re recording with Eric Soderiz No. I think I think

32:53 that one, that one kind of came out as good as we could get

32:57 it. Yeah, Like I was really happy with the action and quality and

33:00 everything on that song. Yeah, I have no issues with that one.

33:02 Absolutely, Now do you guys when you play out do you ever are there

33:07 other bands in the area that you kind of you know, I just know

33:09 from my own experience sometimes it happens sort of our organically, you end up

33:13 teaming up with other bands and playing a lot of shows with them. Is

33:15 there any anybody like that for you guys who you do a lot of shows

33:20 with. So with just with Two Towns, I can't say that we've like

33:22 really teamed up with anybody. We've like became friends with people like on the

33:28 road, just like seeing occasionally, like, uh, somebody that we like

33:30 run into and bostonalized Rebecca Turmel. I don't know if you guys have heard

33:34 heard of her. She's coming on and is it I think it's October.

33:38 It's a way I think it's on my birthday. She's coming. I remember,

33:42 yeah, yeah, yeah, she's super talented, fantastic. Like we

33:45 ran into her at a show at the Bop in Boston. Uh, probably

33:49 about a year and a half ago, Like she was just getting going,

33:52 like we were like kind of solidifying where we were in the New England music

33:55 space. And yeah, she's fantastic. So you have a great guest there,

34:00 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah, we met her and conquered at

34:02 the run like thief show. Yep, yeah, yeah, yep yeah,

34:07 and she is coming in on your birthday, yes, yes, nice,

34:09 yes, very cool. Yeah. You guys, obviously with this configuration where

34:15 it's just the two of you, you can play a lot of different kinds

34:17 of places, right yep, and really fit in with a lot of different

34:21 I mean, do you obviously you have enough music with you know, between

34:23 the originals and the covers to fill a full night, But do you play

34:27 a lot of shows where you only have like maybe forty five minutes or do

34:30 you try to do you try to book shows where you have more more time.

34:34 I mean, I think the thing when we used to do we used

34:37 to book the shows where it was like, oh, forty five minutes an

34:38 hour, playing a lot of the original stuff, and we'd get people there,

34:43 and like, I think that was great when we were coming out of

34:46 like the cover thing and like really building up and just being like, Okay,

34:50 now we're just gonna start doing originals and stuff. And then when we

34:52 stopped touring for that like year and a half almost two years, like we're

34:58 finding the need to like not start over, but kind of pick up the

35:00 pace again where we're like playing these bars, these smaller shows and just getting

35:07 as much music out there and like getting as many people engaged as we can.

35:12 Yeah, and that's what we're kind of finding ourselves doing with these like

35:14 two three hour sets right now. Yeah. And we're we're definitely like in

35:17 the process of booking like the forty five minutes to an hour and a half

35:21 shows of where it's just all the originals. Sure, but that'll probably come

35:23 later, like in the fall winter time, and then next summer the tour

35:29 that we have planned, we're gonna go all over. Yeah, So it's

35:31 not we're not gonna limit ourselves just to the Northeast. We're just gonna get

35:35 on the road and do it. Yeah. Excellent, excellent. By the

35:37 way, where does the name come from? Two towns? Well? Yeah,

35:39 I got asked this a lot, And it was just during COVID,

35:44 like I was just driving the Hunter's house and I was like, Oh,

35:47 I wish you didn't live like two towns away, Yeah, because like it

35:51 was, it was a drive. It was like a thirty minute drive.

35:52 Every time I had to go record something to do something practice, I was

35:55 like, I wish you didn't live two towns away, and that was just

35:58 kind of oh it. We just kind of stuck with it. Yeah.

36:00 So yeah, I was gonna say, what was the name before, because

36:04 I don't know what it was? Two towns? It never changed. Yeah,

36:07 before that thought you didn't have a name. Music. Yeah, all

36:10 right, there was just music. They were just like two towns. Like

36:15 the slogan that we like is like two guys from two towns. And that

36:20 was just kind of stuck. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I only have

36:22 to one other person, so then I never have to change the name.

36:24 There you go, I get like four people. Then I got to start

36:28 doing some explaining, well, but if it's four people, but two of

36:30 the people live in one town and two of the people living see that worked

36:34 out for our Higher Ground show. It was like they it worked because they

36:37 were from one town, we were from the other. Yeah. See there

36:39 you go, there you go. Well, let's play another track. What

36:42 should we do next? I think we we've played how how many of we

36:45 played? Three? Three? Oh? Good? So we have yeah,

36:47 so we have plenty to choose from yet because you sent us six, do

36:52 you have a preference when we go with next? Oo? My next favorite

36:57 out of the ones that we sent probably seventeen seventeen. Yeah, okay,

37:00 and anything we should know about this song. I don't know songs where there's

37:06 an age. It almost I get the sense that there might be a story

37:08 or something. Yeah, so I wrote I wrote seventeen when I was just

37:14 like leaving, like leaving home. It was kind of like being like,

37:17 okay, it's like you're growing up, you're going to college. Like seventeen

37:22 was about all the things that like I had done or like we had done

37:24 as friends when we were younger, and kind of like saying that if you

37:30 could go back and do it all over again, you just wouldn't change the

37:32 thing. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool, Pretty cool. All right,

37:36 let's give this a listen. This is seventeen, and this is the two

37:39 not the there's not the right. It's just two towns band two towns,

37:43 like straight up, two towns, two towns. Yep, here we go.

37:53 We were so young, we didn't know, and we never did what

37:59 we were to break all the rules. We didn't care. Why can't we

38:07 go back there? We were seventy Love that it means because we can be

38:14 anything we want to be. The fucker turn back time. If fucker real,

38:25 Why I would do it all the second time? And if you Bama

38:31 side, we take to this guy's in life like when we were seventeen.

38:46 Remember the day we leave any play a lot of them to care about anything?

38:54 All there we do this party is in jewels. We'd run around and

39:00 then act like rules. We could go back then I know the we we're

39:07 too bid our care the fucking turned that time in fucking real. Why I

39:20 don't know what I would do you know the second time? And with you

39:23 mama's side, we take to this guy's in li like when we were seventeen.

39:37 When the seventeen we were so young. We didn't know, we never

39:45 didn't, but we were so break all the rules. We didn't care.

39:52 Why can't we go back there when we were seventeen, when we were seventy

40:23 you fucking turned back time it fucking re Why hello, I would do you

40:30 all a second time? Then we do by my sade, we turn to

40:35 this guy's in fine like when we were seventeen that fade out snuck up on

40:57 me there That is seventeen, by the way, Okay, so we were

41:00 talking off here. It's officially the name is Two Towns not two towns bann

41:05 yep correct two towns, two towns, two towns, Facebook, Instagram all

41:08 over it, two towns, gotcha, gotcha. And the other thing that

41:12 we were talking about too, is so one of the songs this isn't one

41:14 of the ones you sent me, but you mentioned that this is your favorite.

41:17 Let me just see if I just want to get to where I can

41:22 play because I had to open up Spotify here, which I can definitely do.

41:25 But this this has an interesting story. So it's called fall Apart ye

41:30 and uh yeah, tell us tell us about this while I looked for it.

41:34 Fall Apart we It originally started as there was this band from Norway,

41:37 Lauren Liz, and they had somehow heard our music and reached out to us

41:42 over on Instagram DM. And this was right when we were starting, like

41:45 we were in the process of doing shell City and we're like, okay,

41:49 we need like one or two more songs to fill some more slots in this

41:52 album. And just miraculously, one day they reached out and they're like,

41:55 hey, let's do a song together. And they sent us like a few

42:00 bits and pieces of like ideas that they had and then it was just like

42:02 a back and forth collaboration, and it kind of see it kind of like

42:07 gave me a little light to how just because you're like way apart in the

42:14 world, like you're two different parts of like the globe, it doesn't mean

42:16 that you can't like collaborate and make music with other people. So yeah,

42:21 I mean we we live in a time where, you know, because I'm

42:23 old enough to remember when you know, nobody was thinking about, you know,

42:27 being able to email and drop box, you know, those songs back

42:31 and forth and all that stuff. So yeah, it is amazing that we

42:36 were able to do that, do all of that. Now, let's see.

42:39 Okay, I think I've got Spotify open here and it's uh is it?

42:45 Oh? Yeah, here we go, uh oh see more there it

42:51 is. Yeah, let's give this a listen. Yeah, so this is

42:53 called fall Apart and this is two towns. He was promised shooting stars,

43:13 thunder lining and Frost driving cars, and he unstard and then he let chase

43:52 calling nice all blinded Bottle, she cat down Belieble before the bach once to

44:21 fighting and she bless. She's start about. It is not ju Lay to

44:38 change, It's not Tolay to change. It's not delay. It's not delay.

44:45 It's not to it's not ju lay to change, it's not delay to

44:52 change. It's not Jay, it's not delay, it's not too. Did

45:17 well, very cool? That is fall apart. Two towns did that.

45:22 So in the end, obviously that that collaboration. You said it's your favorite,

45:29 so you're you're obviously very happy with it. Yeah, it's one of

45:31 my favorites that we did. And it just it came from absolutely nothing and

45:35 they just reached out and yeah, turned into something beautiful. Did it Did

45:38 it turn out the way that you expected? Or was it a surprise?

45:43 Because it was It was definitely a surprise. It was more of like,

45:46 oh, this actually turned into something that like we can use, and it

45:50 was it was a long process, like I think we spent three to six

45:54 months just like back and forth communication being like Okay, who's going to do

45:58 this, You're going to do this, and it turned just something that like

46:00 we were really proud of in the end there. Yeah, yeah, do

46:04 you obviously you know you don't have another vocalist with you to do that.

46:09 Do you do that live at all? Or that one? We haven't really

46:14 considered doing live. I think it's just because we don't have the female vocalists.

46:19 Yea, unless your voice can get that high. I mean we can

46:22 see what's going on. Yeah, you never know. Yeah, yeah,

46:23 yeah, we just haven't really considered doing it live because we don't have that

46:28 female vocalist aspect of it. But it's definitely something we would like consider bringing

46:31 in, maybe reworking a little bit of the vocals to fit my range or

46:36 maybe James's and then yeah from there, yeah, very good, very good.

46:42 Let's see, we've got time. I don't know if we'll have time

46:47 to get all of them in. What was the one, uh you had

46:51 mentioned, uh, maybe playing before we started talking about fall apart. I

46:55 think the two that we have is the two that we have left unoriginal and

47:00 should have been me those the oh should have been me. I really liked

47:04 that one a lot too. Should have been me. I actually wrote when

47:06 I was in eighth grade. No kidding, should have been me. I

47:08 wrote in eighth grade, and it just kind of followed me all the way

47:12 till we started. Two times We're like, hey, here's something, and

47:15 it kind of just came to be no kidding. Yeah, So did you

47:21 did you have the lyrics written down somewhere or did you just always remember them?

47:24 I had the lyrics written down somewhere, and we were renovating like one

47:30 of our rooms in the basement that used to be my bedroom into a recording

47:34 studio, and I had found this book from like this like little notebook from

47:37 when I was like in middle school, eighth grade time, and I opened

47:42 it up and like the first page I opened it up to, should have

47:44 been Me was on there, and I was like, Hey, we're gonna

47:45 we're gonna try this, and it just turned out to be a great song.

47:49 Wow, I'll be Did you rewrite any of the lyrics or did you

47:52 stick with thee I think we stuck with everything I had. I think we

47:53 reworked, like the ending part a little bit, the outro I think we

47:58 reworked, and maybe second verse. But yeah, that was the first song

48:01 that Two Towns Ever put out, and that was back in twenty twenty,

48:06 I think November of twenty twenty. Okay, okay, oh cool, all

48:08 right, let's give this a listen. This should have been me, this

48:12 is Two Towns. I've made mistakes and I'm remanded with that. Remove that

48:30 make now what the lie? But you would give me the second try.

48:47 You are the one. Oh, my w li lolylovo. Yeah, you've

49:00 passed me by now while I see him. Those are the guys. Oh,

49:13 we should have been me that you wanted more? Should have been me,

49:16 and I'm rifted to No, should have been me, love me,

49:22 should have gotten me? It should have been me? Why not you,

49:27 though? Should have been me now, my hot fear so should have been

49:32 me now, it should have dot me whoa whoa whoa Yeah in my dreams

49:50 tonight. Oh, you're probays their health every time I want to take a

50:01 ride, and you know I want you by my side, my side,

50:07 my side, and when you catch by, oh, my hearts clips inside

50:19 inside. Oh but you walk good bye? Now, I feel I'm wasting

50:29 time high wastingside. Yes, Oh, it should have been me that you

50:37 wanted more. Should have been me. I'm ripty, don't no, it

50:44 should have been me now. It should have been me here, It should

50:47 have been me when not you, though, should have been me? I

50:52 my half so should have been me now it should have been me. Not

51:43 bad for eighth grade, that's really good. I like that a lot.

51:45 That should have been me. That is two Towns. We have two towns

51:50 live in studio. Of course we have Zach and James here and uh we

51:53 should mention so before we run out of time, you guys got to show

51:57 tonight, right yep, we got to show up in a Waterville Vale,

52:00 the Waterfollo Valley town Square read at the gazebo in the center town. We

52:02 are playing from six to nine tonight, and then next week we go to

52:08 the gas Light Co in Portsmouth on Thursday, and then we're at somebody Nose

52:13 Brewery on Saturday. Excellent. Yeah, now you guys are staying busy,

52:16 Yeah, gotta stay busy. That's really good. That's really good. And

52:20 what should people know about where to find you online? Best place is definitely

52:22 Instagram. Two towns on Instagram. You got a two towns on Facebook.

52:27 And we're really starting to make a TikTok presidence out there too before it goes

52:30 away. So we're just trying to get as much content out there as possible.

52:34 So yeah, two towns on TikTok as well. Yeah, yeah,

52:36 you think you'll think it's gonna go away TikTok. It might, man,

52:39 I don't know, I know, I know, yeah it could it could,

52:43 so, I mean, use it while it's there. That's right exactly.

52:47 And we do have one more track which we'll we'll use on the show

52:51 at a moment. But guys, thank you so much. This has been

52:52 wonderful. I really like your sound. I like what you're doing, so

52:57 thank you very much. Oh. By the way, Melanie in the room

53:00 and her husband Jay fed from our friends from Vermont. They're very beard centric

53:05 and they notice you guys don't have beards, which is unusual for musicians in

53:08 this era. Everybody's got facial hair. Really, I just shaved this morning.

53:12 I can't. I can't grow beard. I can do like this really

53:15 patch thing. Yeah, past that nothing, It just grows in patchy and

53:20 goofy and nope, I gotta take it off. You guys are young.

53:23 Eventually that pesty facial hair start to show up. Probably we're really young.

53:28 So yeah, yeah. One of them was saying that, uh, yes,

53:32 you James, Uh you could rock a handlebar mustache. I've told yeah,

53:38 yeah I can the hat. Yeah it would be amazing. Yeah,

53:45 Melanie said, yeah, handlebar stash and some crazy sideburns. So something to

53:50 keep in mind. I'll go for it. And uh, Jenny before we

53:53 wrap up, did you want to plug your website? Absolutely, you can

53:57 come check me out at Gencoffee dot com, E N N C O F

54:00 F E Y dot com. Always up to something, Yes, yes,

54:06 absolutely, and thank you again to our other guests today too. Of course

54:08 we had a Jusel the rap No, I'm sorry you were so close to

54:13 doing it right, I'm mixing him up with Hope the Rapper who we did

54:15 the world radio premiere for one of his new singles, of course, but

54:19 also a Jusel the Rebel was our first guest in the first hour today,

54:23 and of course we had the ladies from the Sister Witch Company in the second

54:27 hour and very happy to have them on. And guys, thank you again.

54:31 Of course, two towns here in studio with us, and we're going

54:36 to close out with this track. Oh anything we should know about this?

54:38 Why is it called the Unoriginal? I think so. I actually didn't write

54:44 this song. This is the only song on the album that I didn't write

54:46 wrote it, and I think he wrote it. I think he called it

54:50 unoriginal because it was kind of a play on a Rex Orange County thing that

54:53 we were doing, like, oh, what's the typical like indie pop be

55:00 like I Love my girlfriend's song. Yeah, and this is what he ended

55:02 up coming up with, so oh cool, Yeah, all right, very

55:06 good, all right, Zach and James from Two Towns. Thanks again,

55:09 guys, and we will leave you with this. This is unoriginal. I

55:21 get this funny thing and looking back at you with your eyes in your heart

55:28 so blue. I gotta say one thing, three words. Yes, this

55:36 song is on original. But Darling, I love you. I love you,

55:40 Yes, I do, Yes, I do? Oh? Is sue,

55:45 I really really really love you? Yes? I do, yes,

55:52 I do. I love you, baby, hold my hand, maybe kissing

56:00 again. I'll make the herd go. Wait, just promise me that you

56:04 stay. I've never met anyone like you, your mam boo, Darling,

56:14 I love you, I love you, Yes, it's true. Yes,

56:19 Oh I do true, I really really really love you. Yes, yes,

56:28 I it's true, Darling. I love you, I love you,

56:34 I love you. I love you. Oh, I love love love love

56:40 you. Don't don'thing they know it's really fault. I'm gonna need a minute,

57:00 minute minute, let's go. Who died It's hope. I'm with the

57:10 pod Ron gone back, shaktoki. I've got down since he's got something.

57:15 An passed out. In twenty twenty, Mass called and I felt like pot

57:19 man pop mam. They just see the same for nigros. They washed down

57:22 the product and murdered out. He broke sound. The culture been bunched with

57:27 egos like Yay saying we just want the power the people and Pizzo. How

57:31 they're holding the remote nowadays seems like the truth of seafold me though, I'm

57:37 a rebel with one cause this ball might set the middle of detect dolls.

57:40 How she knowing is something like Brett falls. I'm gonna need a breath because

57:45 you go into the long yard. Heard you playing like Kevin and Kitt hard

57:49 thinking number doll. So probably I'll hit pause swing, gonna lose this swin

57:53 a circle working for the bill Board in the night commercial art that'll put him

57:59 in check. Let me take up breath? Wait, will up next?

58:02 We ain't gonna lose this winter circle working for the bill Board in the night

58:07 commercial. Four, that'll put them in checked. Wait, let me take

58:10 up breath? Wait will up next? Wait a second verse? You gonna

58:15 need a nurse soldier boy, tell us it is that we get the first

58:19 hold a noise because this gonna hit him. Wear hurts, Pulo roids.

58:22 We had a rally, so ir gonna bring this darn loop. We gonna

58:24 turn into a garden. Were not the same. I ain't like James Harden

58:29 shoot for the Star said no, you can't guard him. I will not

58:31 touch that brick. But no bogs hard as it feels like a speak washing

58:37 in my own world, I find myself often they tell me stop by saying

58:40 we just started. Might lose my mind. But Keith with my heart starving,

58:45 I ain't eat a bit up in a minute. But I treated like

58:47 I'm Papa and ate away my swining, just trying to reach limits that I

58:52 never said. I go, can't stop. And Chris Wallace with kick dose

58:55 ten toes and get do a line. Know this ain't know William not ninten

59:00 do drap needa fix and we giving out good. No, I will not

59:04 stop. You will have to come my brow. We ain't gonna lose this

59:07 Winner's circle. Who's working for the bill Board in the night commercial working Mata

59:13 whom in check? Wait, let me take a breath, wait wi up

59:16 next. We ain't gonna lose this winter circle working for the bill Board in

59:22 the night commercial orcuit, thatta wotem in check. Wait, let me take

59:25 a breath, Wait way up next day, it's hope. I'm with the

59:30 bard Man God that won Uncle SHUKTALKI Afghan and since it's got something gonna pass

59:35 down twenty twenty, massac on k I felt like Bradman Man the command God,

59:44 don't get Supreme Leader. Maxio g