Matt Connarton Unleashed: Two Towns

Yeah, see sitting and living room. Your life's gone by way too soon

we can be I'm going back in the bank. We live all the times

they went to face uptowns that we shall now. I know you did knockings.

You will seeking around with another dude. I guess that I'll be packing

soon. I'm running away. I'm leaving today, coming by, Sorry to

leave you sorrow, how brunning away? Oh, I'm leaving today. I'm

calling back tomorrow. Sorry to lead you s Yeah, I was making my

chom from an hour or two, the fat of being in somewhere else alone

with you helping me shook up and shake him. Don't know what to do.

So where you're from, where you ban? Enough from my heaven?

Done nothing, and I don't really want to be the one who got caught.

I'll start always and all away. And I'm saying I'm running away.

I'm leaving to day I call me back. Sorry to leave you sorrow,

how broadning. Oh, I'm leaving today, I'm coming back tomorrow. Sorry

leading sw So where you're from, where you been up from my heaven?

Done up there? And I don't really want to be the one who got

caught. I'll dock awaiting all away. I'm running away. I'm leaving today.

I'm coming back tomorrow. Sorry you don't leave you in saying oh yay,

I'm running away. I'm leaving today, I'm coming back tomorrow. Sorry,

don't leave you, and say yay, I'm running away. That is

running away. That is Two Towns band, Zach and James with us here

live in studio. How are you guys? Do we good met? Yeah?

Welcome, welcome. Yeah, I love your as I was saying off

here. I really like your sound. You guys sound great. That track

that's been getting some airplay. You mentioned the river in Boston. Yeah,

we were featured a few weeks ago on the new upcoming music Homegrown Sound I

think it is. But yeah, yep, yep. They played a couple

of weeks ago and that was the song that we featured on it. So

that's off our last our first debut album that we put out two years ago.

Now Shell City okay, okay, oh fantastic, And we do have

some other songs of your suit that we'll be playing today. And how long

have you guys been around? So this started like I want to say,

three, three to four years ago. It was me and another buddy,

and we both came from two different bands when we were in high school.

So I was in this band called Insider, and we actually did pretty well

in Vermont for a while. We like played Higher Ground and did a bunch

of shows there. We were actually on ninety nine The Buzz a few times

out there too, And he was in this other like rock band. They

were called Prohibition, So his name was Hunter Myers, and me and him

started this right before, like right after COVID started, Like we realized that

the whole five piece band thing was gonna go away for a while, and

we're like, okay, how can we keep this going while still like making

music and like going out and playing during the pandemic, So that that all

happened, We recorded an album during the pandemic. After that, we just

got on the road, started touring pretty much anywhere we could in the Northeast.

And then I think it was about a year and a half ago and

Hunter moved to Indianapolis to start doing some other projects. So James really came

in a clutch in this last few months here, and I was like,

Hey, what do you play guitar? What are you doing? I need

somebody to fill this spot and start doing shows again and start getting this like

back up to where we had it before, where we were like playing every

week three four times a week and recording albums and putting stuff out. And

he really stepped up and just came in and did what he had to do.

So now it's going great again. Well it must have been a big

relief, right, because it's scary when I mean, I know from my

own experience it's it's scary when you have a project that has a lot of

momentum and you feel like you're really getting somewhere with it, and all of

a sudden, the bottom falls out because somebody says, yeah, I'm not

gonna be here anymore. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was nerve

racking at first, and then I was like, okay, it's fine.

There's people can play guitar, Like, there's people out there who know how

to play guitar. And honestly, it was hard finding somebody for a while,

was it. Yeah, Yeah, like nobody, nobody really lived up

to the standard. I'm like, it's super perfectionist, and like, yeah,

it had to be like really good and to where I needed to be,

and yeah, James just came in and did exactly what needed to be

done. Excellent, excellent. Did what Was it a challenge for you,

James coming in and learning the because obviously like he's a perfectionist. Was that

a challenge for you? Yeah. I got my first guitar about a year

ago on my birthday. So I'm like, oh, I'm extremely Wow,

he's doing he stepped up. He's good. Yeah. So we had our

first show at the end of May, I think it was May thirst and

then it was the beginning of the March. We worked together another job.

I showed up with my guitar and he said, oh, you play guitar?

Would you like to join the band. I didn't know it was gonna

pick up this much or get it big, but yeah, yeah, oh

that's awesome. Yeah, it's like fate. Yeah. Is that at a

job you guys? Is that how you guys mad at work? Or yeah?

So that we work for a marketing company, like outside of doing two

towns and stuff. Yeah, So it just kind of worked out like we

were just away at an event somewhere. I think we were in like Pennsylvania

or something. He had his guitar with him. I'm like, Oh,

you're gonna you're gonna be with me now, like you're gonna cancel your summer

you're doing shows. Yeah, wow, excellent, excellent. So now on

the on the tracks, on the recorded track, so who else is on

or do you guys do everything between the two of you. So chel City

came out before James's time, that was before James, but Hunter actually did

the drums and everything on that, and he did all like the mixing,

mastering, recording. Fantastic audio engineer. But other than that, vocals,

guitar, and I think most of the bass was me okay, yeah doing

all that. And then on the running Away feature, we have a Luke

Bolt he's one of the original members of Prohibition too with Hunter there, and

we got him to do a little feature on there and he just knocked it

out of the park. Oh cool. What does he do on the track?

He does like the little outro verse towards the end there. Okay,

yeah, okay, So what happens live is it just do the two of

you just play live? And yeah, it's the two of us. Usually

James is just like leaning the way with the guitar and then I'm just kind

of in the background a few chords and all the vocals are coming from me

and we're getting him up to speed on the vocals harmonies very soon here.

Yeah. Yeah, So what do you play live? It's a strip down,

like you're not using any kind of a backing track for the drums or

anything. Is like a stripped down like doing stuff off of Shell City,

doing covers and stuff we and just playing everywhere that we can. Yeah,

is there any kind of a long term plan to have a full band or

or do you like doing it? I would imagine there's a lot of advantages

to it just being the two of you in terms of bocking shows and all

of that. I mean, yeah, there's there's advantages to doing it just

the two of us. I mean like we get paid more both and then

like it's definitely easier like logistically because we just show up with two speakers and

a few cables and guitars and it's a show. I think we've done the

big band thing before, Like we two Towns actually played higher Ground two years

ago. It was one of our last shows, and higher Ground as venue

in Verma. I don't know if you heard it, it's like, yeah,

yeah, it's great. We love it, and we played with a

full band there and it worked out pretty well. It was kind of like

we grabbed the Hunter played drums, we grabbed the other guitars we were working

with at the time, Jackson Garrow, and then we grabbed my old bassist,

Zach Hayes from Insider and we were just like, Hey, we're gonna

be a band for one night and we're all gonna play and it's gonna sound

awesome. And it went good, and I think moving forward, it would

definitely just be like having like a session session drummer or having like a guitarist

or a bassist or something like that. I don't think we would ever want

like change the core of the group. I think I just keep that to

the two people who are really invested in it. Yeah, no, that

makes sense. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Higher Ground is

that? Is that where Green Jelly just played where they had the incident where

they got shut down. Three songs in green Jelly might have been, Yeah,

it was. Yeah, I've seen Green Jelly at Higher Ground. I

was looking at that. Yeah, that was it. They were here last

week. I saw that. I saw him, Like Green Jelly was there.

They're coming back through in August. Really all right? But yeah,

so they played it was higher ground. Yeah, so they played. They

got three songs in, and they got shut down. I guess, uh

really, something something to do with Bill's pants hanging from the chandelier. I

guess. I guess that's a deal breaker. Yeah, all right, playing

in the playing in the small room over there, putting your pants on the

chandelier. Said no, no, yeah, Well, I don't I don't

know who put them there. I mean, you know, I don't know

if he put them there himself, or I mean, I don't I don't

know the details. I don't know how they got there. Yeah, I

don't know how the pants got off of Bill and onto the chandelier. But

I assume he was playing the music at the time. It may not have

been Bill's fault. I don't know. I don't know. But uh,

yeah, it didn't go well. It was pretty uh yeah, yeah,

it looked like a wild scene. Are you guys doing a lot of shows?

Are you're playing a lot? Yeah, we're playing out of our minds.

We actually have a show later today up in a Waterville We're playing the

Waterville Valley Town Square. Oh cool, providing that the weather holds up for

us, which I think it's going to hopefully. Yeah, and uh,

two nights ago we were at l Street down in Hampton Beach, and then

last week we were at Telly's and Epping and we're playing Shane's and Hampton.

We're playing in Boston. We're playing at the Bebop Music Hall later in September.

We got pretty much anywhere that you can house the band. We're getting

in there. Yeah, playing, Yeah, that's excellent, excellent. Well,

let's play another one of these studio tracks. I'll let you pick what

should we what should we do next? We haven't played STU. I like

Overdue. I think Overdue is one of the stronger ones that I've written.

Overdue. Okay, we'll do that one next, maybe the next one after

that. I'll reveal what my favorite is of the one. I have a

personal favorite. I think I know what it's going to be. Yea,

All right, well we'll find out. We'll find out. But in the

meantime, this is Overdue. The band is a two towns band. They

are here with us live in studio. We have Zach and James here with

us. But check this out. This is called overdue. I feel nothing.

I'm rusting without you, no desires, I'm tired, I see nothing

through. I'm lossing my head. A life feels over to still riding,

and I'm dragging to make it through. But I new that iskar and I'm

now can't take to say anymore. If you love me, then leave me,

just let me go, Deny, and I'm crying and I'm just gontrol.

If you want me leave me, never you, because maybe I love

it's just overdo If you love me, love me, if you love me,

if you love me, if you love me, you love me.

If you love me, if you love me, I'm restless, I'm breathless.

I'm broken too. I'm lying deciding that I don't need you. Which

way it's sir, I'm so confused. I'm empty. You just let me

feel something new and new that is getting new and now can't take this say

anymore? Love me, the leave me, just let me go, Deny,

and I'm crying. I'm just gonna If you want me, leave me

and love you, it's maybe I love this stupid to you. If you

love me, if you love me here, if you love me, if

you love me, if you love me, you love me here? If

you love me, if you love me, that's just one thing I have

still be used that you help me to bring me gauz Ali and Joel love

me, you love me, if you love me, if you love me,

if you love me, you love I love that. That is overdue.

The band is Two Towns Band, and we've got the guys from the

band here with us live in studio. Zach and James are here with us.

Great song, I love it? Yeah? How many? How many

original songs do you guys have as a as a unit our entire album?

Chel City? I think it is. I think I want to say nine.

I want to say nine songs. That's just what we have out like,

we have plenty more ready to go. We're actually working with a Black

Heart studio right now and we're gonna get some awesome We're gonna get some dates

in in the fall here in September. We're so we're thinking about doing this,

uh little cover album sort of thing. So we're gonna call it Two

Towns Covered Up. Okay, it could be fun, and we're gonna do

five ish cover songs and then we're just gonna like throw in make maybe five,

six more originals, just start getting the ball rolling. So you're gonna

be recorded with Eric Sotter, Yeah, I believe, I believe. So,

yeah, we had him on. It was a few months ago now,

we we finally had him on the show. And uh, I had

said to him, you know, it's great to finally have here because your

name comes up all the time, because his name comes up all the time,

yep on the show and he's he's amazing. No, that's very cool,

very cool. So the the the album that that you had done,

where was where was that recorded in Hunter's basement? Okay? Yeah, yeah,

yeah he did all the record like we did all the recording there,

the mixing, mastering, like everything was just done in his basement. Wow,

came out way better than we expected. Really, Yeah, for a

basement t I Y album, it came out good. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, you know, with the technology that's available today, you can really

I mean you can, you can really get some you know. I mean,

obviously what you get out of out of Blackheart is going to sound better

than better than anything you've yet. Sure, I'm sure, but no,

but that's I'm genuinely surprised though, that that was all done because, like

I said, all these tracks it sound really really good. Yeah, thank

you, Yeah, yeah absolutely. Do you know when you when you start

recording the next wee one'll start in like September twenty if September twenty first ish,

like right around that range. We're gonna start doing these like next songs

and start getting them out. So yeah, we're going to record it,

have it all done and recorded by the end of September, and then hopefully

for an early winter release we will be a full album. Yeah, we're

trying to make it a full album. Good, yep, good. Now

are you what's the writing process? Like, are you guys writing together or

are you are you doing most of it Zach or how does that work with

so so far we haven't done any like me and him sitting down in a

room just be like, Okay, we got to write something, put the

ideas together, and get hit out there. Yeah. Like the stuff that

we have right now is just stuff that's like been in the back pocket for

a while and being like, okay, we're gonna record eventually, and then

we have fifty shows in three months and record. Yeah, so let's save

it for next year and then we have another fifty shows in three month are

like, Okay, we're gonna save this again. And then so eventually we're

just here now after shell City, and we still got those songs in the

back pocket, so those are ready to go. We'll probably get those out

on this next upcoming project with black Heart, and then anything past that will

be written by me and James collaboratively. Okay, okay, excellent. Are

there any plans to re record anything from Shell City? Or I want to

redo Overdue? Yeah, you were saying something about that off air. Yeah,

yeah, I want to redo Overdue, Like it's I think that for

having it been like written in fifteen minutes, I think that it's one of

the strongest lyrical songs that we have. Yeah, there's just so much raw

emotion and passion that I put into that song when writing it, which I

don't even know where it came from. Like I was in a good place.

I was like, oh, freshman year of college, You're like,

yeah, have fun with all my buddies, and then it's like, Bam,

let's write a sad song. I don't know where it came from,

but hey, it came out good. Yeah. Yeah, what is it

that you don't like about the because I think it sounds phenomenal. I like

it. I think like when it goes into like the chorus part I.

The original version that we had, the vocals were much higher, raspier,

and more They had more feeling and more tone to it, and I want

to get back to that. The only thing that we didn't why we didn't

do that on Shell Cities because we had a version of it before that we

had put out and it wasn't doing as well as we had thought. Like

it was some audio issues with it with like it clipping and stuff and just

not sounding like the professional standard that we wanted it to. So I think

if we get back into Blackhart, it'll be a lot easier to get the

sound that we want and have the audio quality not be compromised. Yeah,

well that makes sense. That makes sense. When when you guys play live,

do you do any covers or is it all originals or yeah, we

do, we do covers, originals, everything. So I mean our usual

set, what are we going on like to twish three hours? Our usual

set? Oh wow, okay, I know we're we're playing like two ish

three ish hours at like pubs and again everywhere we can play and we do

quite a bit of covers, and I just think our covers sometimes like I

like to I like when we're told that our covers sound better than the original

version. So we were playing I think we're playing Telly's last week, and

there was like a bunch of people at the bar, and I love their

new open concept thing. They like got a stage and everything surrounded now instead

of like being in the corner like we were a couple of years ago.

But yeah, so we had there was people at the bar and they came

up to us after There's like, man, that Zach Bryan's song he doesn't

he doesn't hit those notes live, And I'm like, oh, yeah,

we we try to be different and try and do stuff that like the people

who are playing these big shows out there aren't doing, because like we want

to bring we want to bring like as much of the experience as we can

to them and just try and sound as authentic as we can. What song

we were doing, Burn Burn Burn Zach Bryan. Yeah, and when he

gets to the end there he goes, let me go down that. Yeah,

I was like hitting those notes and like getting them correct and people just

loved it. Yeah, they're like, well, we saw him live and

he didn't do that. I was like, yeah, well we try and

be the best. Yeah. No, that's and that's validating, right when

somebody says that to you, that's amazing. Yeah, it's it's great.

We'd love to hear it. Yeah. Yeah. Do you do any obscure

covers where people don't necessarily know their covers? Yes? Oh my god.

Yeah, well we're playing we're playing l Street the other day. It's like,

are you guys just playing covers or this originals too? And just like

it's both. We hadn't played any originals yet. Yea, yeah, it's

both. We're getting there, but it's both for now, right, like

like like what what what what's an example of like an obscure one that gosh,

Miles Smith, Yeah, Miles Smith. He's he's getting up there.

But like we play solo by Miles Smith and that's a pretty obscure one.

Yeah. I think like for non like college students, Kilby Girl would be

another. Yeah, that's that's a new favorite. Rus like Killby Girl by

the back Seat Lovers. We started playing that a couple of weeks ago,

and it's hasn't reached this way to the older audience yet, but it's getting

there. Yeah. I think another one we play that's really obscure disco nights.

I honestly don't even know who that's by. It's obscure to me.

Yeah, I just I think it was like one of those TikTok songs.

It's like, yeah, let's play that, right, Well, let's song,

let's play my favorite. Now you said you you think you you can

guess which one is my favorite of the track? Seat you want to guess

that? You guys? Rhyme? Yeah? Am I right? That's the

one, is it? Yeah? So weird. This was not that song

was not like intended to ever be a song. Really. Yeah. So

me and me and Hunter where we were just in his basement one night.

It was me and him and his brother, his girlfriend, like a bunch

of friends were just like, I bet I could write a pop song.

Like we were probably like hanging out and doing stuff and like I was like,

oh, I could write a pop song. I could do that easy,

And like an hour later this was created. Well, yeah, apparently

it is easy because yeah it's a great track and it's yeah, I know

what you mean about it being a pop song. It's catchy as hell,

and it's the length of a pop song. It's only two minutes and forty

seconds. Yeah, so you're coming in under that three minute. It's perfect

for radio. I think that was the point where like, oh, radio

pop songs, Yeah, anybody can do that. And we just did it

an hour and you did it. Yeah, well you did it well.

So I love it. So let's give this a listen. So this is

method and the rhyme and the band is two Towns band here in studio.

Check this out. If you give me one mun Chang, maybe just let

me in. I just need a second Tom then Yong on my mind.

I must spend my wings in fly all I need the second time. I

just want you to buy my side. Just slaying with me tonight. I

guess you need a little bitter time to big you're at the method and the

vibe because I'm just getting over read. I had another beat. I'm just

really sick of bit. You get two ago around it beginning was a good

things. I'm gotta do this. I'm just off. I had another beat.

I'm just really sick of Bee. It's all on my head and my

bed wasn't the monsters in mouth. Let me rise here tonight better than that.

The other thing that I said, Now what I meant was gonna said

all the text you said. Okay, not understand the things you said.

The I'm the being, not just scale them. I guess you need a

little bitter time to be you're auto method and right, because I'm just getting

up read I another beat. I'm just really sick amped. You get to

uger around it, piget just the things I'm gotta do this now, I'm

just offer med. I'm just really sick ape. I guess you need a

little bitter time to think you're auto method and right because I'm just getting up

read another dad, I'm just really sick amped. You get to uger around

the pige just the things I'm gotta do this. I'm just off. I'm

just really sick. A p that is method and the rhyme. The band

is Two Towns band and they are here with us live in studio, and

uh yeah, it's like it's so catchy, like I start swaying back.

I don't do that to everything. That's true. It's true. I really

do like that song. Yeah, really do. I love all of your

music. Really, you have an amazing sound. Yeah, thank you very

much. You know, it reminds me a little bit. I think it's

in the vocal, the way you sing it. It reminds me a little

bit of Maroon five. It's funny because I really don't even like Maroon five,

but I like that song. All right, that's good. But when

I when I first listened to it, I was like, the vocal reminds

me of somebody, and I think it reminds me of Adam, Like all

right, I can hear it a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

because yeah, because your vocal approach is a little different on that one

too than the other tracks. I feel, oh yeah, but yeah,

no, that's really good. But you were you were also saying off air,

you don't like playing that one live necessarily. We I've played that song

live one time. Oh no, I played that song live one time,

and that was at Higher Ground, and we were we weren't gonna play it

live. We weren't gonna play live. It was not in the set list,

and sure enough, it's everybody's favorite song. So at the end of

the show they're just like chanting method in the rhyme and like, okay.

So Hunter had to just play it on his computer and then me and another

guy we're working with at the time, Jackson Garrow, We just got him

on stage, like I said, one microphone in each hand and just kind

of did it. And it just feels so unnatural. Yeah, so not

have a guitar or something in your hand and I just yeah it just don't

play it live other than that. Wow wow, yeah, fidget, So

you can have something and it's gotta be it's gonna be something. Yeah,

yeah, guitar. How about a guitar no strings? He uses, Yeah,

you us this, hold the guitar and not not play it. I

don't know. Yeah, I can be there to fiddle. I think it's

a great song. I think you miss this up and playing it, not

playing it live. I gotta tell you see what's gonna you know what's gonna

happen. Right, that's gonna end up being a huge hit, even even

if you don't push it. Somehow, radio stations are gonna pick it up,

and then you're gonna be forced to and then we're gonna have to be

a pop band, and then some day no, and then someday you're gonna

be on a big tour going oh I hate playing that song, but you're

gonna feel obligated. That's gonna be your encore because it's gonna be this massive

hit. Yep, that's what's gonna happen. Yeah, that's like, hey,

you know that song is gonna be big. It's like why because it's

good? Yeah, it sounds good, but like it when you're when you're

recording it or you're like, Okay, this is great, like pop song,

it's gonna be catchy, sounds awesome, and then like when it's done

and you've listened to that same Arpeggi hated No maybe five thousand times, and

like you're just hearing it and then it comes out that night, you're like

all excited, and then you hear it you're like, ah, should have

been different. Yeah. It's also I feel like it's a little like removed

from our other tracks. Yeah, clearly it's oh yeah, we're more like

country indie. But right, so it changes the pace of the shows if

we did play it love, which would be nice, but it's also you

know that jumping from Zach Bryan to that to like ever do is completely different.

Yeah yeah, yeah, no, I can see that definitely. Definitely,

So you won't be that. That's not one that you're gonna be uh

re recording with Eric sodteriz No, I think I think that one, that

one kind of came out as good as we could get it. Yeah,

I like I was really happy with the production and quality and everything on that

song. Yeah, I have no issues with that one absolutely. Now do

you guys when you play out do you ever are there other bands in the

area that you kind of you know, I just know from my own experience

sometimes it happens sort of our organically you end up teaming up with other bands

and playing a lot of shows with them. Is there any anybody like that

for you guys who you do a lot of shows with? So with just

with Two Towns, I can't say that we've like really teamed up with anybody.

We've like became friends with people like on the road, just like seeing

occasion like, uh, somebody that we like running too and bostitalize. Rebecca

Turma. I don't know if you guys have heard heard of her. She's

coming on and is it? I think it's October. It's a ways.

I think it's on my birthday. She's coming on. That's why I remember,

yeah, yeah, yeah, she's super talented, fantastic. Like we

ran into her at a show at the Big Bop in Boston, uh,

probably about a year and a half ago, Like she was just getting going,

like we were like kind of solidifying where we were in the New England

music space. And yeah, she's fantastic. So you have a great guest

there, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah we met her and conquered at

the run like Thiefs show yep, yeah, yeah, yep. Yeah,

and she is coming in on your birthday, yes, yes, n yes,

very cool. Yeah. You guys, obviously with this configuration where it's

just the two of you, you can play a lot of different kinds of

places, right yep, and and really fit in with a lot of different

I mean, do you obviously you have enough music with you know, between

the originals and the covers to fill a full night, But do you play

a lot of shows where you only have like maybe forty five minutes or do

you try to do you try to book shows where you have more more?

I mean, I think the thing when we used to do we used to

book the shows where it was like, oh, forty five minutes an hour,

playing a lot of the original stuff and we'd get people there and the

like I think that was great when we were coming out of like the cover

thing and like really building up and just being like, Okay, now we're

just gonna start doing originals and stuff. And then when we stopped touring for

that like year and a half almost two years, like we're finding the need

to like not start over, but kind of pick up the pace again where

we're like playing these bars, these smaller shows and just getting as much music

out there and like getting as many people engaged as we can. Yeah,

and that's what we're kind of finding ourselves doing with these like two three hour

sets right now. Yeah, And we're we're definitely like in the process of

booking like the forty five minutes to an hour and a half shows of where

it's just all the originals. Sure, but that'll probably come later, like

in the fall winter time, and then next summer the tour that we have

planned, we're going to go all over, So it's not we're not going

to limit ourselves just to the Northeast. We're just gonna get on the road

and do it. Yeah. Excellent, excellent. By the way, where

does the name come from? Two towns. Well, yeah, I got

asked this a lot, and it was just during COVID, Like I was

just driving the hunter's house and I was like, oh, I wish he

didn't live like two towns away. Yeah, because like it was, it

was a drive. It was like a thirty minute drive. Every time I

had to go record something to do something practice, I was like, I

wish you didn't live two towns away. And that was just kind of oh

it. We just kind of stuck with it. Yeah, So yeah,

I was gonna say, what was the name before, because I don't know

what it. It was two towns. It never changed. Yeah, before

that though, you didn't have a name. Music. Yeah, all right,

there was just music. They were just like two towns, like the

slogan that we like, he's like two guys from two towns. And that

was just kind of stuck. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I only have

to one other person, so then I never have to change the name.

There you go, I get like four people, then I gotta start doing

some explaining. Well, but if it's four people, but two of the

people live in one town and two of the people live see that worked out

for our Higher Ground show. It was like they It worked because they were

from one time, we were from the other. Yeah, see, there

you go, there you go. Well, let's play another track. What

should we do next? I think we've played how many of we played?

Three? Three? Oh? Good? So we have Yeah, so we

have plenty to choose from yet because you sent us six, do you have

a preference what we go with next? Oo? My next favorite out of

the ones that we sent probably seventeen seventeen. Yeah, okay, and anything

we should know about this song. I don't know songs where there's an age.

It almost I get the sense that there might be a story or something.

Yeah, so I wrote I wrote seventeen when I was just like leaving,

like leaving home. It was kind of like being like, okay,

it's like you're growing up, you're going to college. Like seventeen was about

all the things that like I had done, or like we had done as

friends when we were younger, and kind of like saying that if you could

go back and do it all over again, you just wouldn't. Yeah.

Yeah, very cool, Pretty cool. All right, let's give this a

listen. This is seventeen, and this is the not the there's not the

right it's just two towns bent, two towns like strap, two towns,

two towns. Yep, here we go. We were so young, we

didn't know, and we never did what we were to break all the rules.

We didn't care. Why can't we go back there? Were seventeen?

I didn't know that any means because we co be anything we want to meet

the fucking turned back time and fucking real why, I don't know what I

would do? You know a second time? And with you Mama's side,

we ta this guy's in life like when we were seventeen, Remember the days

we'd laugh and play a lot of care about anything. All that we do

this party is and jewels. We'd run around there and act like gools.

We could go back then, I know that we we're toopid all again.

I fucking turned back time if fucker me, why and I know what I

would do? You know the second time? And with you Boma side,

we take to this guy's in life like when we were seventeen. When the

seventeen we were so young, we didn't know, we never did, but

we were sold break all the rules. We didn't care. Why can't we

go back there? When we were seventeen. When we was seventeen, the

fucker turned back time. I fucker real why, I don't know I would

do you all a second time there, review, I'm a sad we take

to these guys inside, like when we seventy that fade out snuck up on

me there. That is seventeen, by the way, So we were talking

off here. It's officially the name is two Towns, not two towns banned

yep. Correct, two towns, two towns, two towns, got book,

Instagram all over it. Two towns gotcha, gotcha. And the other

thing that we were talking about too, is so one of the songs this

isn't one of the ones you sent me, but you mentioned that this is

your favorite. Let me just see if I just want to get to where

I can play because I had to open up Spotify here, which I can

definitely do. But this this has an interesting story. So it's called fall

apart yep, and uh yeah, tell us about this while so I looked

forward all apart. We It originally started as there was this band from Norway,

Lauren Liz, and they had somehow heard our music and reached out to

us over on Instagram DM and this was right when we were starting, like

we were in the process of doing shell City, and we're like, oh,

okay, we need like one or two more songs to fill some more

slots in this album. And just miraculously, one day they reached out and

they're like, hey, let's do a song together. And they sent us

like a few bits and pieces of like ideas that they had and then it

was just like a back and forth collaboration and it kind of see it kind

of like gave me a little light to how just because you're like way apart

in the world, like you're two different parts of like the globe, it

doesn't mean that you can't like collaborate and make music with other people. So

yeah, I mean, we live in a time where, you know,

because I'm old enough to remember when you know, nobody was thinking about you

know, being able to email and dropbox, you know, those songs back

and forth and all that stuff. So yeah, it is amazing that we

uh were able to do that, do all of that now, and it's

uh is it? Oh yeah, here we go. So this is called

fall Apart and this is two towns was promised shooting stars, thunder Frost,

driving cars and on ste and Ne the change, calling dyes all blinded Bob,

she got down, believe before blue Bla. She once to fighting and

she bleeves she's tart about and it's not too lame. Change. It's not

too lay change. It's not too it's not it's not it's not change.

It's not change. It's not it's not night it's not to change. Well,

very cool. That is fall apart. Two towns did that. So

in the end, obviously that that collaboration. You said it's your favorite,

so you're you're obviously very happy with it. Yeah, it's one of my

favorites that we did. And it just it came from absolutely nothing and they

just reached out and yeah, something beautiful. Did it? Did it turn

out the way that you expected or was it a surprise because it was It

was definitely a surprise. It was more of like, oh, this actually

turned into something that like we can use and it was it was a long

process, like I think we spent three to six months just like back and

forth communication being like Okay, who's going to do this, You're going to

do this, and it turned into something that like we were really proud of.

In the end, there obviously you know you don't have another vocalist with

you to do that, you do that live at all? Or that one

we haven't really considered doing live. I think it's just because we don't have

the female vocalists. Yea, unless your voice can get that huh, I

mean we can see what's going on. Yeah, you never know. Yeah,

yeah, yeah, we just haven't really considered doing it live because we

don't have that female vocalist aspect of it. But it's definitely something we would

like consider bringing in, maybe reworking a little bit of the vocals to fit

my range or maybe James's and then yeah from there, Yeah, what was

the one you had mentioned maybe playing before we started talking about fall apart.

I think the two that we have is is the two that we have left

is on original and should have been me. Those are the oh should have

been me? I really liked that one a lot too. Should have been

me? I actually wrote when I was in eighth grade, No kidding,

should have been me. I wrote in eighth grade, and it just kind

of followed me all the way till we started. Two times we're like,

hey, here's something, and it kind of just came to be no kidding.

Yeah, So did you did you have the lyrics written down somewhere or

did you just always remember them? I had the lyrics written down somewhere.

And we were renovating like one of our rooms in the basement that used to

be my bedroom into a recording studio, and I had found this book from

like this like little notebook from when I was like in middle school, eighth

grade time. And I opened it up and like the first page I opened

it up to should have been me was on there, and I was like,

hey, we're gonna we're gonna try this, and it just turned out

to be a great song. Wow, I'll be Did you rewrite any of

the lyrics or did you stick with I think we stuck with everything I had.

I think we reworked, like the ending part a little bit, the

outro, I think we reworked, and maybe the second verse. But yeah,

that was the first song that Two Towns Ever put out, and that

was back in twenty twenty, I think November of twenty twenty. Okay,

okay, oh cool, all right, let's give this a listen. This

should have been me, this is Two Towns. I've made mistakes and I'm

remanded with every move I make. Now, what the lie? But you

give me the second try? You are the one. Oh, my w

li lolovo. Yeah, you've passed me by now while I see him.

Those are the guys. Oh, we should have been me that you wanted

more. Should have been me, and I'm ripped to no. Should have

been me now? Me? Should have got me? It should have been

me away not you though, should have been me now my should have been

me? Now? Me should have got me? Whoa whoa whoa Yeah in

my dreams of night. Oh, you're probays their health every time I want

to take a ride, and you know I want you by my side,

my side, my side, and when you catch my oh my heartess lives

inside inside. Oh, but you walk good bye? Now I feel I'm

wasting time high wastingside. Yeah, oh, it should have been me that

you wanted more. Should have been me, and I'm ripped it don't no,

it should have been me now. Me should have been me here?

It should have been me? Why not you though? Should have been me,

and I'm a happy soul. Should have been me now? Me?

Should have been me? Should not bad for eighth grade? That's really good

I like that a lot. That should have been me. That is two

towns. We have two towns live in studio. Of course, we have

Zach and James here. And what should people know about where to find you

online? Best place is definitely Instagram. Two towns on Instagram. You got

two towns on Facebook. And we're really starting to make a TikTok presidence out

there too before it goes away. So we're just trying to get as much

content out there as possible. So yeah, two towns on TikTok as well.

Yeah, yeah, you think you'll think it's gonna go away TikTok.

It might, man, I don't know, I know, I know,

yeah it could, it could. So I mean use it while it's there,

that's right exactly. And we do have one more track, which well

we'll use to on the show at a moment. But guys, thank you

so much. This has been wonderful. I really like your sound. I

like what you're doing, so thank you very much. Oh. By the

way, Melanie in the chat room and her husband Jay fed from our friends

from Vermont. They're very beard centric and they notice you guys don't have beards,

which is unusual for musicians in this era. Everybody's got facial hair.

Really, I just shaved this morning. I can't. I can't grow beard.

I can do like this really with patch thing. Yeah, past that

and nothing. It just grows in patchy and goofy and nope, I gotta

take it off. You guys are young. Eventually that see facial harold start

to show up. Probably we're really young. So yeah, yeah. One

of them was saying that, uh uh yes you James, Uh you could

rock a handlebar mustache. Ye, yeah, I can see the hat.

Yes, it would be amazing. Yeah, Melanie said, yeah, handlebar

stash and some crazy sideburns. So something to keep in mind. I'll go

for it. And uh, Jenny, before we wrap up, did you

want to plug your website? Absolutely? You can come check me out at

Jencoffee dot com. J E N N C O F f e y dot

com. Always up to something, Yes, yes, absolutely, guys,

Thank you again. Of course, two towns here in studio with us,

and we're going to close out with this track. Oh anything we should know

about this? Why is it called unorriginal? I think so. I actually

didn't write this song. This is the only song on the album that I

didn't write wrote it, and I I think he wrote it. I think

he called it unoriginal because it was kind of a play on a Rex Orange

County thing that we were doing, like oh, what's the typical like indie

poppy, like I love my girlfriend's song. Yeah, and this is what

he ended up coming up with. So oh cool, Yeah, all right,

very good, All right, Zach and James from Two Towns. Thanks

again, guys, and we will leave you with this. This is unoriginal.

I get this funny thing and looking back then you with your IYO in

your heart, so glue. I gotta say one thing, three words.

Yes, this song is on original. But Darland, I love you.

I love you, Yes, I do, Yes, I do. Oh,

issue I really really really love you? Yes, I do, yes,

I do. I love you, baby, hold my hand, maybe

kissing again. I'll make the herd go. Wait, just promise me that

you stay. I've never met anyone like you, your mam boo, Darling.

I love you, yes, it's true. Yes, Oh I do

I really really really love you? Yes, yes, I Darling, I

love you, I love you, I love you, I love you.

Oh, I love love love you