Matt Connarton Unleashed 6-6-23

Hey, everybody, welcome, here we go. It is that time again,

Matt Connerton unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n

H ninety five point three FM in glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. Also

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Matt Connerton dot com for all your live streaming options, social media links,

contact infolk show archives, etc. Etc. Today is Tuesday, June sixth

two thousand twenty three, so nice to have you all with me on this

glorious Tuesday afternoon. Now on today's program, there's there is an air of

unpredictability here because well so it relates to an an event that's happening tonight.

So tonight right here in Manchester, there's an event at Jewel Nightclub. I

believe now what I'm looking at says something different than what I thought. I

believe doors open at six pm. It's an early show, six pm.

Doors in. The show starts at seven from what I was told, and

we might have in the second hour around five pm. Now I say this

tentatively, because there are some difficult logistics to all of this. Not for

me, My part's easy. I just have to sit here. I'm here

four to six pm. I'm in this seat, So the logistics is not

difficult for me. But for some of the folks who may want to come

in, pop in on the show, or even just call in and promote

the big show coming up tonight. For them, the logistics might be difficult

because this is a big show and it might be uh, you know,

it's a national act that's coming through. So I've kind of left it up

to everybody, you know, join us if you want to, if you

can. But I do know. The tentative plan is William from the band

Sepsis, and perhaps other members of Sepsis as well, if they can,

they're going to try to come in studio around five o'clock today, so as

we enter the second hour New Merrow Dose, they're gonna they're gonna come in.

That's the tentative plan I believe, So again, won't hold them to

it if it doesn't work out. I understand it's an early show. Therefore

it's an early load in. And if you don't know, although even if

you don't know. You can probably guess from the term load in that's where

the band's load in, all their equipment, all their gear. It's a

bunch of bands playing. It's a big deal. So but like I said,

it's early because it's I assume because it's a Tuesday, so it's an

early show. So if they can't work it out logistically, no hard feelings

whatsoever, believe me, I'll completely understand. So we'll see what happens.

I've also let a couple of people know that if they want to call into

the show to plug the show tonight, they're welcome to as well. So

we'll see. But hopefully in the second hour we do get to see at

least William, and we'll see who else from the band Sepsis, and perhaps

even somebody from the headlining act tonight we'll see. That is all tentative,

but again there is an air of unpredictability about today's show, So we'll see

what happens. And hey, even if none of that happens, and again

I will completely understand because I know the logistics of it all are challenging for

them because of the timing. And believe me, I from my own experience

both doing shows and as a performer and as a promoter. I believe me

it's it's none of it is as simple as it looks. Ever, and

it's not all glitz and glamour, that's quite for sure. Now there's a

lot that goes into it and a lot of nuts and bolts. So I'm

not holding anybody to anything. We will see what happens, but I am

cautiously optimistic that at the very least we will get to speak with William from

Sepsis today here live in studio, So that's kind of the deal. What

is coming up tonight It is the Dead Reckoning. The band is Dead Reckoning.

They're a national touring act. I'll refer to what's on the website here,

Dead Reckoning Bring the Dead Army Takeover tour to Duel Music Venue. That's

us listened on here. It's really just known locally as Duel Nightclub in Manchester,

New Hampshire, with special yes Sepsis, Edgewise, Dust, Profit,

Mark of Wrath and Able Blood. Packed with local metal bands, This hard

hitting show will satisfy all of your metal needs. I kind of suspect Ai

wrote this. This is from the event Bright website. That feels very AI

to me. I'm not picking anybody. I'm I'm not busting stones over it.

I decided I think it's that. Does that not because we talk about

it on the show, so it's relevant? Does that not sound like it

was written by Ai? Uh Oh? This was totally written by Ai.

Okay. It says here doors at six pm, show at seven pm,

come thirsty and ready to mash. There is no way an actual human and

if and if an actual human did write that, they should be fired.

Come thirsty and ready to mash. Oh my goodness. Tickets for fifteen dollars

and we'll go fast, So don't miss your chance to see some killer metal.

Okay, So that's happening tonight, big show tonight at Jewel. So

yeah, so we'll see, we'll see who who we hear from today on

the program. But I did open with a dust profit track that was Hourglass.

I was messaging with Auto, I said, Hey, I'm going to

open with something from your band today, and I was going to play song

four because that seems to be a fan favorite. But at least with the

audience. Every time I play song four, I see a lot of positive

comments in the chat room, but Auto said, can you play something with

vocals in it? So I said, I'll play Hourglass. And actually Jenny

just said in the chat room my favorite dust Profit song, so that was

a good choice after all, Hourglass instead of song four. So and I

do love Auto's vocals on that. His voice is just incredible. So there

you go, so a little bit of dust Profit to open up today's program.

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give us a call at six three two five zero six zero seven. By

the way, something I meant to mention about tonight's show that I neglected to

I want to make sure I mentioned this, and I didn't realize this until

a few minutes before I went on the air the show tonight. The local

promoter putting it on is Always Forward Events, and Always Forward Events happens to

be the company run by our friend Sam Beechard. He's been on the show

talking about Always Forward Events and also his band House Lights, who have a

great song called Love and Understanding that I absolutely love. But Sam's a great

guy. Sam made a very nice testimonial for me recently. I did a

hypnosis session with him, some hypnotherapy, which is confidential when I see clients,

of course, unless they are okay with I've actually done a session with

a former United States senator, but I can't say who it's confidential and I

was asked to not reveal the name. But uh, but anyway, Yeah,

so I did a session with Sam, and he posted a very nice

testimonial about the experience on social media, which I appreciate. But so this

is actually he's part of the show tonight at Jewel being put on by his

company Always Foured Events. So I didn't realize it was his until until right

before the show. I was looking at the flyer, I said, wait

a minute, that says always four an Events. So anyway, so that's

uh, we'll see we'll see who we hear from today again. Six zo

three two five six seven is a studio line six three two five six seven.

I do want to We'll say hello everybody in the Facebook live chat,

and then we'll get into some stuff. Melanie Liberty from the Great State of

Vermont joins us in the chat and says, hey, guys, Hello Melanie.

Archer archer Flight, who I strongly suspect is from Greensboro, North Carolina,

says hello. Hashtag Matt high hashtag Jenny. We say, how are

you doing, Matt? We said, I'm doing quite well, sir,

thank you or ma'am or however you identify archer Flight Actually, I assume is

the name of a pop singing group from Greensboro, North Carolina. Oop.

Sorry, that's what it usually turns out to be. Archer Flight says.

We say, that's punk rock hashtag Matt no dust profit. I would not

categorize as punk rock. It's sort of sort of doom metal if I had

to categorize it, Jenny says, shalom peeps. J Fed says, good

afternoon everyone. Archer Flight says, we say, we do love your show

of the afternoons. Hashtag Matt good afternoon, hashtag Jason from US, Yeah,

saying hello to j Fed as well, and archer Flight also says good

afternoon, Kara Kilmer, we say to you from US and uh yeah,

who's that again? Kara Kilmer or Kara Kilmer? Is she from A?

Is she related to Val Kilmer? Isn't she somebody famous or something? I

don't know. Alex Whiteley, all the way from the UK joins us,

a fellow podcaster and broadcaster. He says, evening, guys, Sorry,

it's been a while. I hope you're all well. Well, we hope

you are well, sir. Archer Flight says, hello, Sepsis, we

said you rock. Yeah. Hopefully we'll get to speak with members of Sepsis

later in the program. Today let's see archer Flight says, we say we

like our favorite version of Hourglass by the band of Squeeze Fetch Stagmat. Yes,

Squeeze also having a song called Hourglass. Very different though I would say

the Dust Prophet song Hourglass is in no way a cover of the Squeeze song.

Two very different bands. I forget Miriam banishes in the chat room.

I forget if I mentioned that Miriam is in there, Hello, Miriam.

Also, Eric nan Rone joins us in the Facebook live chat. I'm sorry

if if I'm not saying your name correctly, he says, hello. He

shared a link in the chat room yesterday. I haven't gotten a chance to

feel free to drop that link again, Eric, if you'd like. I

haven't had a chance to check it out yet. But it's called the it's

a play on plan on words on his last name, The Nano Second Podcast,

and I will check that out soon. Let's see. Archer Flight says

we are not suspects. We are a pop singing group. I think that's

because I said I suspected that they were a pop singing group. So archer

Flight says we are not suspects. We are a pop singing group. I

don't know if archer Flight is correcting me, or if archer Flight is making

a joke. I don't know. Mike from Queen City Cabinetry in the Facebook

live chat, joins us and says good afternoon. Queen City Cabinetry, of

course one of our great sponsors here at WM five point three, but also

Mike is one of our official co hosts Now on Retro Spectrum Radio with Paul

C. Every Friday night from eight to eleven PM. The honor and privilege

of being one of Paul's co hosts on that show along with TJ, Steve

and Mike from Queen City Cabinetry, and we have a great time. Oh,

Archer Flight, says Kara Kilmer from the TV show Chicago Fire. Matt,

we said, now, Chicago Fire. I've never seen the show,

but that's a famous show, right, which means that Kara Kilmer is famous,

which means that she's being referred to in our Facebook live chat and being

tagged, so she'll probably see that. So therefore it's almost like this show

is now famous because a famous person is being tagged in our chat room.

That's how it works, right. Well, I can't believe the moment's finally

here. That's fantastic. Every day I google myself to see if I'm famous

yet, But looks like Archer Flight has taken care of that for us.

We do have a call. Hi, welcome to Matt Connerton only East.

Who is this? It's Ridley? Oh, Dave Ridley, how are you,

sir? I'm not too bad. What's going on? Well? Uh,

porkfest. There's a little bit of a music scene at pork Fest that

will be coming up on June eighteenth. Ah, now what is Porkfest for

the uninitiated? That's up in Lancaster, New Hampshire at Rogers Campground, the

prettiest campground in New Hampshire to my knowledge, and that's like a liberty libertarian

sort of libertarian yet I think a libertarian burning man. Um, yes,

now I understand. So there's there's camping involved, which would not be for

me certainly, Dave, I don't even go out into the woods. I'm

very afraid. Uh, there's there's deer ticks. Uh, there's the Blair,

which uh you just never know what you're gonna find in the woods,

but uh, you know, but good for them. And do you uh,

I know that's the event has been going on for a long time.

Do you go to that? Do you go to Portfest? I've got about

every third Portfest, I guess I haven't been in about two years and I

probably won't make it to this one. But it's one of those things where

the kind of you kind of get a law diminishing returns. You know,

after you've been to the first seven, they start kind of feeling a little

bit the same, but it does get bigger every year. It's now selling

out every year. And you know, with all the people that fled the

authoritarian states during COVID, we have had a lot of free staters, you

know, move here, and so the event is now packed every year,

and it's there's traffic jams, the there's you know, all the with all

the hotel rooms get sold out. Wow. But you know many people do

not camp. You know, they either rent a motel room right there on

the site where they rant a hard h like an r or they rent a

they were in a hotel in town or whatever. Yes, yes, I

didn't know that. Actually I thought everyone just camped. Dave, are you

are? Are you experiencing issues with allergies? You? But you're talking about

the smoke? Well, your voice got very hoarse. Are the smoke coming

down from a Canada? No, we we did have a big we did

have a big air quality alert today in Winchester. Um. It's uh,

you know, kind of reminds me of when there's a big forest fire or

something like that in the distance. Yeah, no, we have that here

too. Yeah, the air quality is very poor right now. I'm not

sure what's causing it. But that may be causing you to sound different.

Okay, but yeah, I mean there's a lot there's a lot of music

at pork Fest. Quality, of course vary wildly um, but some of

them, some folks are pretty good. It's just not a it's not the

focus. What is the focus? Dave of pork Fest, sum it up

for us? What what would you say the focus is? Uh? Man,

I'm I'm not sure it really a different for every person. But it's

just the eye of getting all the freedom lovers in having the top world top

freedom, freedom event, the liberty event, whatever you want to call it.

That's that's what it is. Now it's now I guess it's surpassed an

Archa Pulco, which is this thing that used to have in Mexico. I

guess they still have it, and I think ours is now bigger. Wow.

All right, very good, very good, And now you go ahead,

Dave. You want to learn about it, you just go to porkfest

dot com. You can show up even though it's sold out, you can

still show up. You just can't get a campsite. I don't think you

can get a motel room on the ground unless you get on the waiting list

or something like that. There's also like this. It starts from the June

eighteenth, but if you want to go to something that's at the same spot,

it's a little bit smaller and not sold out. You can just go

early if you go anytime between June fifteenth and June seventeenth. There's a pre

event called pork Fest, which is a smaller and more hardcore anarchist type gathering

or voluntarius or libertarian or whatever whatever word you want to use. The purists

tend to be at fork Fest, and then pork Fest itself is more mainstream.

I would think I would think an anarchist based event would be difficult to

organize. I've made a little joke there. Yeah, and it's not organized,

but there's no attempt because it's smaller, it's not maybe not as much

need to organize. But one of the Free State project, you still know,

as it gets it really kind of explodes in size and we start,

you know, getting started to get a little bit exponential. It's having growing

pains, and those those used to be evident in the fact that you know,

Forkfest didn't have enough the facilities will get overwhelmed by people in the bathrooms

will all get filled up, and with pep, you know, people in

every stall and all the time you're hard to get a shower. It was

still but that's sort of been dealt with that now there's a different type of

growing pain in that Now while the big name politicians want to speak at Porkcast

New Hampshire Primary and everything, Robert Kennedy's son who's running for president, he

is, he's going to be speaking um rfk RFK Junior. He's commonly known

as Yep Yep. He's running as a Democrat, challenging Biden for the nomination.

But he's going to speak at pork Fat Yeah. Yeah, So he's

a true big name in many different ways. Yeah, and he'll be there

and that's great. On the other hand, he's not a pure libertarian,

and so some folks in the movement are kind of scoffing at him and welcoming

him with derision. And the worst part to some people is that he when

he speaks, there's going to be an area set aside for him to speak,

and in the inside that area they are not going to be allowing people

to carry firearms. And this is just creating howls of derisions, you know

within the libertarian community. Oh boy, of course you can understand why,

you know, considering his dad was assassinated, his uncle, Sure, you

know JFK was assassinated. Um, there's obviously you know, there's there's kind

of this. You have to wonder if there's another crazy out there waiting to

to do something bad. Yeah, you can't really understand. I I And

I'm glad. I'm glad you said that, Dave. That that shows uh,

that shows a level of empathy on your part that not everyone has UH

in that situation. So I'm glad you said that. And uh, yeah,

I agree with you. You really can't blame him. Well, this

guy is not Ted Kennedy, right, this is this guy is a real

traditional Kennedy. He's more like jfk. Uh. You know, he's outside

the establishment. He really does bad at home or he hits out of the

park on a lot of different issues. For instance, he wants Edward Snowden

pardoned, he wants Julie and Assange pardoned, he wants um to. He's

got serious reservations about the war with Russia. Um he um. He's he's

be something of an anti nuclear activist and he has uh you know, he's

he's against vaccine mandates very strongly and stuff like that. He's been kind of

like this for a while, so he really is kind of you know,

the uh kind of like he's kind of like TOOLTI gather, I guess in

a lot of ways. So you know, I tend to welcome politicians,

you know, big name politicians taking these positions as opposed to deriding them for

not taking all all the libertarian positions. Yeah, I mean part of what

is so there are many, many things, but part of what I think

is so broken about our politics in the United States is that people tend to

uh take an exclusionary uh attitude in terms of, you know, everything has

to be in extremes and you have to be all with me. You're either

completely with me on everything or you're completely against me on everything. And there's

a resistance to letting anyone in. I don't just mean, you know,

with the Libertarians at Porkfest, but I mean with anybody, Republicans, Democrats,

whatever, there's always this resistance to letting anybody in, you know,

unless they unless they're all the way with you. And that polarization I think

has gotten much worse over time. So I'm not surprised that there are people

who are horrified at the idea of him speaking there. But it's also good

to hear. And by the way, I don't agree with the guy on

on a lot of things. I think he's a little bit uh well,

I don't want to say too much because we might try to get him on

the show, because we're starting to try to get some some of these uh

well known candidates. But um uh, I won't be able to upload that

day's show to YouTube if that does happen, of course, but um but

uh no, but I um, but it's also good to hear that there

are some people there who are willing to welcome him and listen to him and

and be able to hopefully have a respectful uh discussion about areas of disagreement and

uh you know, and and listening with an open mind. I mean,

that's good. Well, he's if he's following in the if he's kind of

following the Tulta Gabbard track. You know, she was a gun control advocate.

When I interviewed her in twenty twinty early twenty twenty m he was in

favor of these things called universal background checks and other nonsense. Um. And

there is a claim on the table. Jane Noon is claiming that I may

have changed her mind when I questioned her. She's a doubt that I was

the one that did it, but she did change her position on firearms and

now she against gun control. UM. So if that happened into Tulsi Gatherd

after her interactions in New Hampshire, we can hope that this will also happen

to our FK Junior. Well, I would have to say, Dave.

By the way, who is Jay Noon? Is that a name I should

know? He ran for state Rep last year or as the last election was,

and he's he's I guess maybe best known for refusing to take a driver's

license. So he drives out a license and does not have a social Security

number. And he he owns a little property. It's either in where or

Hinnaker. It's kind of right on the line between the two. It's not

a little property. It's kind of a actually a fairly big property, and

a lot of people live on the property. I think it's kind of a

libertarian gathering point. I don't know what to compare it to in the normal

world. I was just curious. You said his name like it was someone

people would know, and I'm not familiar with him, but um no,

that's all right. I was just curious. As far as Telsey Gabbert though,

goes, I would, uh, I might pop your bubble. Uh

not that you are in any way obligated to accept my popping of your bubble

or the bubble that jan Noon has tried to hand to you apparently, but

h Tulsei Gabbert, in my view, if you have followed her trajectory,

I don't think it had anything to do with what you said to her,

Dave. Honestly, I think she just, um, I think she saw

an opportunity to kind of because she was sort of already on the outs with

the Democrats. I think she saw an opportunity to sort of cash in because

next thing, I know, when when she started to change, suddenly she's

going on Of course, Tucker Carlson is no longer on Fox. But all

of a sudden, I see tulse Gabbert going on Fox News and going on

these other right wing, uh not libertarian, right wing conservative outlets and programs

and essentially agreeing with everything, essentially agreeing with conservatives on everything and kind of

just um, I think she saw an opportunity there. I'm trying really hard

not to use the term right wing grifter, but I think, uh,

I think she oh, you know, I think she cashed in is what

was really going on there. I don't I don't trust her. Yeah,

And I think you're right that I did not change her mind by myself,

uh them, but I did. I think you're you're making a point.

Maybe I was right about something else and that when when I after I interviewed

her, I made the claim that she she struck me as sort of an

American Churchillian type of figure, where she obviously has a sort of greatness,

but it's not necessarily goodness. So um uh sure. Now she went right

after that and did what Churchill did. Um or you know, two years

later she did what Churchill did. The Churchill initially was best known for switching

parties. So he switched out at the He switched out at the Labor Party

and into the con what they call it in the Tory Party back then the

Conservative Party and into twinties for thirties, I can't remember, anyway he left.

He left his party and that was that was backwards. He was a

conservative and he switched over to the liberals. That's right, and then he

switched back. Yeah. Then he said that it takes a certain amount of

it. He doesn't take all that much ingenuity to rat, but it takes

a lot of ingenuity and ingenuity to rerat. Yeah. I um, I

get very suspicious, Dave. It's it's one thing for someone's politics to evolve

or devolved, depending on how you want to view it. Um, depending

on what your own ideology is. I suppose everyone can kind of make their

own judgments about the individual who is evolving or evolving. But um, you

know, I mean, I mean, I certainly don't believe all the same

things I did ten years ago or even five years ago. I've I've changed

my mind on some things over time, and I think that's very healthy and

perfectly reasonable to do. But I'm always suspicious when I see somebody change so

drastically in such a short period of time. That sets off an alarm with

me. That makes me go, hmm, I'm not sure this individual is

completely on the up and up. And there's there's other examples I could give

of that, But you know, look, I mean, people can change,

people should change. I tend to as distrustful as I am of people

who just seem to change completely all of a sudden. I'm also a bit

distrustful of people who seem to go through their entire lives never changing their minds

about anything. Not because I think that they don't believe what they claim to

believe necessarily, but because, uh, they've probably sealed themselves into some sort

of ideological bubble where they're just not open to any new information. Uh.

If you believe all the same things at sixty years old that you did at

twenty years old, and you haven't changed your mind about anything, then then

I don't trust that person either, to be honest with you. But um,

yeah, I don't. I don't trust her. But uh, but

that that's interesting. Your your insight into her is is interesting as well.

Yeah. And if you know, if you were to transport yourself back in

time eighty years, you would not be able to trust Churchill either, Right.

You know it's normal with politicians. Uh, you know it just are

not very many politicians you can trust, right. Yeah. The other problem

is it's a systemic problem in the United States because it's just not the physically

have an inferior political system compared to the Israelis, or the Icelanders, the

Danes, or or maybe to some even the British, because it's just it's

only allows two parties, so there's no it's not like, it's not like

Tulsey Gabbert has a party that that thinks like her that she can jump into.

Right, both of the parties they have, you know, Option A

and Option B, and and if you're slightly different from either of them,

they tend to drum you out at the national level. And they didn't welcome

Ron Paul. They're hostile to RFKJ and you'r uh. They were hostile to

Tilta Gabbert when she was in the Democrats. Now that she's in the Republicans,

people are saying she's a rat and she and she's just being an opportunist

and she doesn't really believe what. It would just be better if there were

more parties to pick from. But that's not that's not the way change is

going to happen. Agreed. I was just looking up by the way while

you were talking. I was because I couldn't remember his name, um Arlen

Specter, I remember him, Senator Arlen spector from Rhode Island, and he

would go back and forth just like it was. And he got caught on

tape. He got caught on video saying the last time he switched parties because

I think he actually died in office. He lived to be pretty old,

but he was on video saying, I'm well, I'm switching parties because I

think it'll help me get re elected. I think it was the last time

he switched from Democrat to a Republican. But he had a history of just

going back and forth. You know, no no, uh, no core

values or positions. Apparently he just did whatever was convenient for him to win

elections, you know, yep. Now it's all it's all rigged against any

you know, any minor party. Oh yeah, of course, you know,

because you have to Green Party has to go through an endless hoops just

to get on the ballot. Libertarian Party has to go through endless hoops just

to get on the ballot. But the Republicans and Democrats automatically get on the

ballot. Right there. That just doesn't that just Greens at all? For

any third party. It's the Soviet Union, you know, they still had

change with just one party, right and the change came to some extent from

inside the party. But it can be done. M hm yes, uh,

but but but difficult. Um. Oh, by the way, Dave,

I kept meaning to ask you this and we kind of went in a

different direction. But can you tell can you tell our listeners why it's called

pork Fest, because I just don't want anyone to go there thinking that they're

going to get uh, bacon and sausage and not realize what the meaning of

porkfest actually is, or that they're going to steal out of police. But

porky pork chance or porkypines or porkypines or people who believe in being left alone.

But they're not going to start a fight with you, right right,

But if you give them a hard time, they've got the quills, correct,

the porcupine quills. Yeah, but it's you know, a lot of

speeches, a lot of a lot of vendors, a lot of drugs,

no police, basically police. If police tried to enter the park, it's

considered scandalous and a big deal and everybody's running around with cameras freaking out.

The police are not considered welcome on the campground site. That during the thing.

So that's one very big difference between us and the burning Man. That

has happened, though, hasn't it in the past, hasn't that they have

gone in. In fact, they went in right in front of me.

In twenty twenty one when I was there, there was a guy who lived

on lived in the park. It was not connected to the festival, and

he had a heart attack right across the street from me. Oh my god,

I was renting on or something. A funny was having a heart attack,

and so im EMS services did come into the park, and I believe

there was a policeman present, but it was not. It wasn't a huge

deal. It just everyone kind of went on alert when that happened. Yeah,

yeah, Oh wow, jeez, that's terrible. I guess it was

too much freedom for him. Um yeah, all right, Dave, Well

anything else on your mind? That is all Porkfest dot com come out.

You're invited. All right, very good, Dave, thank you for the

call for the call. All right, bye bye. All right. That

was our friend Dave Ridley from the Ridley Report and NHXIT and talking about Porkfest

and uh, yeah, I don't I've never gone to any sort of camping.

I don't. I don't go into the woods. Um. To be

honest with you, I just assume not go outside. I look forward to

the day when the technology exists where I can just teleport from one place to

the next and not even uh you know, I mean if I need some

fresh air whatnot, I open a window. I mean who you know who

needs it? But that's me? But there you go. Pork Porkfest this

weekend. Wait did he say this weekend? Oh? No, he said

the eighteenth. She's already forgot what he said for dates. You know what?

He confused me because you was talking about pork Fast and then fork Fast,

which is I guess the anarchist thing. I don't know. Again,

how does that work? How do you even organize that? I went back

for the same joke. I apologize. All right, we have another call.

See we got on the line. Hi, welcome to Matt Connerton Unleashed.

Is this Hi? It's John Hopwood, John Hopwood? How are you,

sir? I feel like I haven't heard from you in weeks. I'm

having problems in my back, problems with what my back? Oh you're back.

Well, I'm sorry to hear that. It sounds like you've heard about

it for the first time. No, no, no, it just it

sounded like you said something different. It's not the greatest phone connection, but

it's not bad. I can hear you. Okay, oh okay, does

this help Anny, that's a little better? Yes, yeah, I guess

that. I am wanted to comment that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. I

said he's going to walk fast, and I am very disgusted by that.

Now why and I really don't know what RFKA Junior is up to. Interesting,

By the way, we should remind listeners you went and covered RFKA Junior

when he spoke at the Center for Politics. That's say an Anselm. Correct.

Yes, I'm moving around to try to get a better connection. We

can, we can be a lot of conversation because they see we're having a

bad connection. I can hear you. Yeah. I was enthusiastic about him.

But you know, I even put my name in for the RFKA Junior

presidential campaign. But here the guy shows up on Friday in New Hampshire.

He doesn't send him and his people don't send out any word he's coming.

Really, he doesn't mention on either one of his Twitter feeds, including his

major feeds that I have posted stuff on. He doesn't even mention that he's

given a speed each before the New Hampshire primary. Yeah, you know,

his his performance. The word came out. He's the performance. You know,

it's saying, hey, all the defense of the uh New Hampshire primary.

And then he's been invited to talk to the New Hampshire Senate because they

had of the Senate said I'd be Jeff Bradley. I think it's a good

guy Republican, one of the old time Republicans. Yeah and gone, where

did they go? Right? When you're yearning for the Yeah, no,

kid, I'm with you. Uh. Allows everybody that's gonna run for president

serious candidate's a nott like the ones that look will show up at your place

with boots on their head and the like can speak to the New Hampshire Senate.

And the only way I found out about that is to lu Dallas Sandro.

Now I'm a credited journalist, except you know, the Trump people finally

ticking me out in the long rule of credit. May this is a way

to run in New Hampshire primary campaign. The whole idea of the New Hampshire

primary is like a Bernie Sanders. He launched his campaign at Elizabeth Robtow.

Yes, he had people here. It's just what is Bobby Kennedy up to?

Bobby Kennedy Junior up to? And he's going to go talk to these

anarcho libertarians who to the core of MAGA people. You know, well,

I don't know you're you're you're painting your painting with a very broadbrush there.

But I was disappointed, uh that when it did turn out that, yes,

a lot of them are our Trump supporters. And because I don't know

what the hell is so libertarian about Trump, but he has such a he's

able to cast such a spell on people that it doesn't matter. Oh don't

you think that most of the Free Staters uh went hold for Trump? Well,

I some of them did, uh not all of them. Some definitely

did not. Dave Ridley certainly did not. He's no fan of Trump.

But oh yeah, yeah, yeah no, but some of them did it

it because uh, you know, it's it's Trump. People just get mesmerized

by him. I mean, you know, the guy managed to convince an

entire political party that, uh that John McCain was a war criminal. I

mean, just with a few comments, you know, I mean, you

know, so, I don't believe so, but uh, I was thinking

about that the other day. But oh you know what, Oh you know,

no, I visit the studio. I'm not I'm not saying that.

Just to clarify, I'm not saying that he is. I would never know.

The reason I was thinking about it is it came up in one of

the best of episodes that ran on a Saturday morning, the bit that we

used to do with the ghost of John McCain. But uh yeah, yeah,

and us ever since somebody tried to find what was that guy, uh,

the presidential candidate that tried to deliver papers on that was that was Stephen

Conny Senior. He had, uh, he had, he had his own

secret documents that he uh he gave. He gave one envelope to me and

one to Peter White, and Peter filed his away in a place that no

one would ever think to look for them. And I sleep with mine under

my pillow. Okay, I thought that he had thought he had given something

to the ghost of John McCain. I don't believe so, maybe some adjita,

but uh, yeah, I'm not aware. You know, I just

wanted to want to say that I don't know what Kennedy's up till you know,

well, he's no threat to Biden, right you think tears the ways

and and Joe Biden wants something to do with the New Hampshire primary. Well

that's exactually running New Hampshire primary campaign like somebody like Bernie Sanders did or Eugene

McCarty back in nineteen sixty eight. You can really make a difference, which

is one of the reasons that Biden didn't wanted New Hampshire Primary. So basically,

though, you know, Bobby Kennedy juniors here talking about the significance of

the New Hampshire Primary. But he's just blowing smoke up of people's posteriors,

including the ghost of John McCain. Right, well, I don't know if

the ghost of John McCain has a posteria. I'm not sure how that works

in the afterlife. It seems like you wouldn't need everything, But well that's

true. You know Big Steve, who you know, revealed about the satanic

bortle of the White House. Yes, yes, which led to a denunciation

of your truly last night when I was talking to Big Speed, Oh no,

and He says that I was very unsympathetic to him on your show,

right right, But we did. We did learn a lot though about the

Satanic portal. We did. But basically, these aliens that appear before people,

We're not talking about your alien grades or the Nordics or whatever the hell

they are that you know, like you sorry in a close conject We're talking

about one to visit important people like Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon

religion, yes, or you know, major tech executives in Silking Valley.

They only appear from the waist up. Oh right, so that's true.

Law. The ghost of John they k might not have a pus sterrier,

right right. Yes, I do miss him, Steph and Philbrook in the

chat room says, I miss the ghost of John McCain. Well, I

think we all do. I know I do. I interviewed him twice and

it was always good to hear his voice again. Yeah, I can't seem

to find I can't seem to find him. I have looked, and he

appears to have vanished, along with along with uh, interestingly enough, a

virtual John Hopwood and virtual Dave Ridley. They have all vanished and I cannot

locate them, try as I might. Oh, I have a clue about

that, but I'll hope to tell you in person. Okay, Oh,

yes, there's a vendetta against George truly at the studio. Oh, I'm

not going to say who's behind it or what dimension is coming from. Oh

you know all those things happening with the Satanic portal? Yes, over you

know your death. Yes, there's refrigerations. Oh, that totally happened again.

By the way, is the thing with something coming out of the event

and with a number on it? For real? And I haven't here I

can even show the the people who are watching online on Facebook. Let me

grab it. What's the what's the number? This time? This time the

number sixteen fell out of the ceiling. This happened on front And this happened

for real. This happened on Friday. It was after my show and before

Paul's show. This came out of the vent and the ceiling. The first

time it happened, it was a thirteen. This time it was a sixteen.

The number sixteen. It came out of one of the events in the

ceiling here and what do you think that means? John Hopwood? The number

sixteen Oh, I've wonders what happened to all those fifty dollars bills that got

stashed somewhere in the building. But you know, we're not supped to talk

about. Oh no, I don't even know if those fifty dollars bills were

real. Mm now, why don't you colorblind? So you know they could

have been shot? Trewe shot trews. It's not green, right or is

it? I don't know. I think we'd need an interior designer to tell

us that. Now, have you submitted your resume to the RFK campaign?

Maybe you could help them out so they could get organized. It sounds like

they need some organizing. Well, my old friend Tom Astigale, who's in

our K junior enthusiasts as I live up until, reasonly mentioned something like I

said. I told him. Campaigns don't function like that. They don't use

locals, they use professionals. They use professionals and their media base. They

really don't you advertising during the primary season. The Boston market, which covers

Manchester, is the fourth largest advertising market in the entire United States. Although

Boston is not the fourth largest market, but it's because of the amount of

political spending Unlike a Bernie Sanders who rant a two successful campaigns in New Hampshire

grassroots campaign people. They don't focus on that, which is a big mistake,

and they bring in people that aren't from New Hampshire, that don't know

New Hampshire where it's like Bill Clinton used the late Bill Cashion, who has

a huge portrait over it City Hall as his man on the ground, you

know, and re lived his advice where Hillary Clinton brought did not do that

in twenty sixteen, so all outsiders, professionals, people that didn't even really

know New Hampshire. Yeah, unlike the successful campaign in nineteen ninety two where

Bill Clinton came in a strong second, which in the New Hampshire primary strong

second often is considered the win nineteen seventy two George McGovern and nineteen ninety two

with Bill Clinton, and in nineteen sixty eight Eugene McCarthy came within a few

points of beating a sitting president. You know. Well also in ninety two

Paul Songas because being from our border state of Massachusetts, you know, he

was considered a favorite son, so he was expected to win. I voted

for him, but he wasn't. But Clinton did so well as Bill Cashing

told me when the Jennifer Flowers thing hit, it was like a campaign went

to disarray. The people from outside the state and not it's Cashing, but

people around them, people are still in politics. Told me about Cashing was

about five foot four or five foot five, Bill Clinton six foot three,

and he's pointing his finger at Bill Collar. Nashua Manchutter conquered, you concentrate

on that, that's where the votes are. And he did, and he

kept pulled, you know, he pulled it out a close second place finish,

and then they said to come back kids. I'm the come back kids,

because they thought he was through up right right a big thing. Yes,

you know, but I'm just saying that Bobby Kennedy Junior going to pork

that's you know, these are people that don't like vaccines, mask mandates,

vaccines whatever. I figured that night. They're like that. And he's already

talking to the preaching, right, I mean, you're you're already talking to

the preachers. You're already preaching to the crowd. His thing is to convince

mainstream Democrats and independence that he's not all just an anti vaxxer, you know,

and to take his critique of the institutional capture by dig Pharma and other

corporations in other industries. But no, you know, it's always amazing to

see people f word up right politics. But you know, Matt, there's

a great thing and I'm gonna leave your audience in this. There's a great

thing in America. And it is mentioned in Kurt Vonnegut's Grateful Slaughter Huts five

that in America at the time of the World War Two, you could go

into one of these restaurant onto bars, and they'd be a sticker that's said,

if you're so smart, why ain't you rich? Yeah? Yeah,

so I'm so smart. Why ain't a rich? Yeah? Why ain't you?

I don't know. Bridgard away from me, take care, Matt.

All right, John, all right, thank you for the call. All

Right, that was our friend John Hopwood on the line. We're gonna take

a quick break. I'm gonna play a little as sepsis song here bleed lines,

great single, and then when we come back, we got a little

we had a little surprise for you. But check this out and plenty more

to come. Don't go away, everybody, welcome back. It's Matt Connerton

unleashed as we cross over an hour number two numerow Dose. We are live

from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious

Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast ninety seven if you're in Manchester,

and hello to all of our online listeners across the nation and around the

globe. You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for all of

your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives,

etc. Et cetera. And uh So, we have some special guests with

us, and I'm going to introduce first, because if you are a regular

listener, you already know this guy. William from Sepsis is welcome. How

are you welcome? Yes, I brought my friends all the way from Georgia.

I went down to Georgia and I packed them all up and now they're

here, right here. And now they're here. We've got Dad reckoning with

us in studio. How are you guys? What's up man? How you

doing? Going on? Good good? I just want to say, for

the record too, never in all the years that I've done this program have

we had this many people wearing black on the show all at once and it's

pretty cool, and I'm glad I wore my you know, I wear a

lot of black myself. Yeah, you can just joined us man. Yeah

yeah, I blend right in and except well not really, but at one

time I would have We're at Jewel with um and some of your friends a

day tonight too. Yeah. Able blood is day yep. Um so dead

Reckon is headline in the show, okay, um, and able bloods there

and um I think Dust prophets there too. Yeah, so dust and Mark

a wrathy five days with us, Okay. I didn't see him pulling in

hungry. He must be hungry. I think they had a load later loading

time. Yeah, it was okay. And uh and you've also got Edgewise?

Is there right Edgewise playing? Or did they I'm not sure if they

were showing up a not tonight. I saw I saw them on a flyer,

but it was somehow drop off. Oh maybe there was a change,

okay, because those days did difficult sometimes. Oh yeah, oh no doubt,

yeah, absolutely absolutely, Yeah the flyer I'm looking at, Yeah,

I see, of course, said rackinan sepsis Able Blood, Dust Prophet,

and I do see edge. Although it's funny on the flyer that I'm looking

at, Edgewise is kind of faded a little bit. It's weird. It's

it's almost like somebody made the flyer and knew that they might not stay.

That's that's funny. And always forward is uh on is the promoter or the

local promoter? Yeah, yeah, no, And really I've never worked with

them. It's actually been a pleasure. I usually with an H booking over

there, shout out to an H book and yeah, yeah, yeah,

that's the place. Those guys nice and clean over there. Things seem to

be going. Well, that's how we got over here. Things for spiffy

over there, Oh very good. I love playing Jewel. I can't,

I like really for them to inherit the Queen City experience at Jewel. I

think these guys are gonna be pumped up. Its beautiful. We already got

set up in the amazing stays, so we're great. Yeah. So you

guys are from You're from Georgia, Columbus, Georgia. Are four Benny?

Are you touring? You're going all over You're going one hundred twenty day tour.

They tour more than every band in the in the world. There's not

many at our level that tours like this. Nobody, even even some of

the big names have been like, man, that schedule is intense. Nobody

to us like Dead Record is you gotta you gotta shove it down their throats

sometimes, gotta make them hear it. Hey, we have always forward.

Sam Beecherd is on the phone. Hey Sam, Hello, Hey Sam,

welcome, you're on the air. Bat. What's going on? Man,

I got the guys. The guys are here from uh We've got William from

Sepsis and he brought Dad Reckoning there here with us in studio. Oh sick,

Okay, what's up? Guys? Invited Sam if he wanted to do

a quick call and to promote the big show tonight. Yeah, I mean

all these guys are on and already, but just thrown out there again.

Anybody's listening. Come on down to Jule seven pm, doors atm show a

blood Dust Prophet, Mark of Brath Stepsis, Dead Reckoning, give the incredible

show. Have you have you on a Tuesday night? Gotta bring it?

I see everybody there, very good? All right, Sam, We'll let

you go. We know you you've got a lot to do. My friend,

you're very busy obviously, but we uh well, but we appreciate the

call. Thank you, all right, man, you gotta than bye bye,

all right, very good. Yeah, that's our friend Sam Beechard.

He uh he made a very nice testimonial for me recently. I'm always I

work as a hypnotherapist also, and I did. I did a hypnosis session

with him. He made a very nice uh posted a very nice video about

it, which was cool. So if you get why, if you forget

why you're here, yeah, and you know, you know, you'll know

why, or if you just feel very relaxed, very comfortable and very calm.

I'm always relaxed, I don't know, or if we randomly bark or

something at the middle of the show. Have you heard this guy scream?

You have to be relaxed to scream like yeah, he's intense. Yeah,

yeah, we're gonna now what's uh Actually, let's get everybody's name. My

name is Taylor. You're a Taylor So you're the singer obviously with the scream

and you sir, I played bass okay, and Ryan I'm the drummer,

right Mike guitar okay? And who vocal? Do we have somebody else?

Or nope, just us four and um so is touring? I mean what

is Uh, it's a challenge right right now. It seems like a lot

of bands aren't touring because with inflation, everything's gotten so expensive. It's it's

it's hard. I mean, how do you guys do it? Or do

you just you just go for it? You just gotta do it? Yeah,

you just yeah, you kind of some of some of the shows,

don't. You don't get the guarantee you want or the turnout you want,

but you still have to push to the next one, you know. Yeah,

and the next one may make up for what you didn't get done,

you know. So yeah, it works out if you just push. Yeah.

Have you guys been added a long time? Oh yeah, this is

our eighth eighth tourably Oh no kidding, And we're starting to see a little

light at the tunnel, so we keep at it, you know. Yeah,

yeah, excellent, excellent. If you've gotten a lot of gotten a

lot of airplay with with the music, we're gonna we're gonna play something at

the end of the segment, by the way, one of your tracks,

but we'll get to we'll get to hear that scream. But if you've begetting

a lot of airplay because obviously as you're touring, you know, you're building

relationships, well like you're doing your building relationships at radio. I assume fmise.

It's it's a lot harder. We do a lot of the internet radio

and stuff like that. You know, that's that's a lot easier for the

metal world, explicably true. True, Yeah, a lot of us don't

know. There's not a lot of tones. Yeah, there's not a lot

of good metal stations these anymore. You know. Yeah, it is hard.

It is hard. Um, it's uh so I can see where Yeah,

you'd be more internet internet radio based, Yeah, that makes sense.

Um, how long? How long have a said? You guys too?

Do you play for? Do you do like ninety minutes or I mean we

can do anything from thirty to an hour? Are powerful sets about thirty thirty

five and it just kicks them in the teeth and then we moved to the

next one, you know, Yeah, but we probably maybe do about a

forty five to night yeah, yeah, yeah, very nice, right,

and then they want encorees and all that, you know, yeah, yeah,

and then who's the band who you're who's going around with you? Margat

Rath is doing five days. We usually get five days. Yeah, we

usually get bands I want to try to learn how to how touring works and

everything, and we try to take them out with us to show them the

ropes. Oh cool. We do all we can to help, you know,

nobody helped us, so we try to help them. Yeah. Yeah.

A lot of local bands that are trying to become regional bands, right,

so we'll bring them on for a week when we're getting kind of their

region and then they can kind of get their foot in the door. Yeah.

Yeah. Um, do you ever uh you ever bring anybody on tour

with you where they go? You know, you're trying to show them the

ropes and they kind of go wow. I didn't think it would be quite

this challenging because you know, because you know, obviously some people have a

they think it's you know, glitz and glamour and uh, you know,

it's mainly just driving gas stations and play the glamour is on stage just about

it right, right, exactly exactly? Uh? And what's the what's the

scene? Like? Where in George are you from? Are you from Atlanta

or Columbus? About? Okay? Okay, Well it's hot. It's hot.

Yeah, about what's the scene like there? As far as metal,

it seems like it's getting a little bit better. Yeah, years, but

for a while it was really I mean really we started touring because you know,

you couldn't you couldn't do a killer show there. So we were like,

well, what does South Carolina got? What is North Carolina got?

And then we just we use it. One day we were like, what's

California guy? Yeah, I mean last month we were playing Whiskey a Go

Go, you know, California with Headpe. You know. So we're doing

the best we can, you know. Good for you, Good for you.

Yeah. Have you done Have you done any extensive touring with a support

for a big guy? No. We have a lot of talks right now

though, Like these these tours that we're doing is like putting us in their

eyes, you know. Yeah. So there's a lot of big names that

are talking about us now and some have requested us, and then some some

of them have a buy on you know, so you gotta if you can

do that or not, you know. Oh yeah, oh I know all

about how that works. Yea. Luckily they're getting to the point where they

just want us, so hopefully we don't have to deal with all that.

Yeah, very cool, very cool. Uh, William, if you have

subs us, have you played with these guys before or will tonight be a

first? I first playing. I'm extremely lucky and excited to have my first

opportunity to play with guy. We've been talking been bands have been talking probably

two three years. Yeah. Yeah, me and Melissa have been fancy these

guys. Yeah, it's and we've been fansy you guys. I mean they

tear it up. Oh yeah, we look up to them just as much.

Yeah, I'll watch their lives and I'll be like he just said what

I said, for like me and Melissa. What really got us excited about

uh these fellas is, first of all, um, their stage presence.

You know, the fact that they're they're not just a band. They you

know, they put on a show. You know, they have an entire

entertainment package. It's it's really interactive and I know we get a lot of

shit for it online, stuff for it online, thank you. I know,

we get a lot of stuff for it online. But they're really interactive

with their fans. They put themselves out there. I know some of the

greatest artists that I can remember. Um, that are the nucleus of my

ambition. Are the kind of people that put themselves out there a little bit

more. And they do that. They don't hide in the green room,

you know. Uh, they come down, they hang out with their fans.

They're screaming and everybody's face. Yeah. Um, they're meeting people and

they're a pleasure to hang out with. So we watched the other bands too,

you know, I mean, yeah, songs, you know what I

mean. Support sounds really cool in a chat for him, a conment,

very fun practice. Real support is physical, yes, and it's in And

there's two kinds of work. There's fun work and then miserable work. And

these guys are doing hard work. But it's a lot of fun. Yeah.

So, and they're keeping it fun and they're sharing that with their fan

base. Yeah. Very cool, very cool. Where do you guys go

from here? After the show tonight? Where do you go next? New

York? Yeah, Rochester. We're off tomorrow finally for a day off to

Joy and then we go to Rochester, New York, and then we head

back down southeast to go to West Yeah, we got a Pennsylvania and then

we go west off to that. Yeah, okay, how many dates left

on the tour? Are you for this this leg? There's about twenty on

this part of the tour, Okay, and then we have a week break

and then we're doing another twenty four straight and then we take a month off

and we're doing another month straight. Oh fantastic. Wow, And we may

have a couple more, but we'll see. Oh, very cool. We

just keep adding, you know, we started with eighty dates. We were

like, we're just gonna do it. We planned out eighty dates. Yeah,

we get out there and then people were like, we want you guys

here, So we were added and added and now we're one hundred and twenty

plus. It's a nice feeling. Yeah, very feeling, no doubt,

no doubt. How long has the band been around? Uh, we're going

on almost twelve years. Oh okay, cool? Yeah, very cool.

Uh, well, it sounds like you're on a positive trajectory and uh absolutely

you know it's going well. So that's that's fantastic. Um and uh uh

William, you had um do you want to do that now that you've got

a couple of announcements about Yeah, Swarmy Fest as y'all know. Um,

we'll be at Club Jewel. It's going to be November fourth. We have

a handful of bands. I know a lot of people have been wondering,

Um, who some of the headliners are. I promised I would come on

and talk about some co headliners. Um. I cannot give you, um

the top of the I can't give you the cream of the crop yet.

But two of the supporting co head liners for November fourth, here in the

city, here in Queen City, at Jewel, here in Manchester for Swarmy

Fest two is none other than our favorite band Invert. Okay, and our

second supporting co head liner, Um, will be somebody returning to the scene,

A band I really love so much. Band we look up to,

the spend around for a long time. Um is um my favorite band.

Um, we got Invert, and I can't give you the other one.

That's all I can give you for now. Okay, I'll give you one

more. I'll give you one more. Six bands A simple complex. Oh

well, I kind of wondered because I happen to see mark Ingoldsby in the

Facebook chat. Yeah, yeah, I see it. Okay, Yeah,

I didn't know if I should give it too with y'all case the Okay,

so a simple complex and I got one more. I got one more,

but y'all gonna have to wait for it. Oh okay, all right,

Oh very cool. Well, a simple complex. Yes, so inverter In

a simple complex. We'll be at swimming Fest two. That's awesome. Yeah,

a simple complex. Those guys have been around forever. I interviewed them

many times over the years. Mark's a great guy. Um, that's uh,

that's fantastic. They've been through some lineup changes, but Mark has really

I think kind of been the nucleus of that band. And uh, oh

that's awesome, very cool, you know, and of course Jenny and I

will be there for that representing absolutely doing uh you know the streaming or yes,

good friends of ours, um soldiers, uh soldiers a solace would be

on. Um it will be UM representing us. Also, I'm coming on

as a partner, so they're gonna be hanging out with us. Also very

cool, very cool. Oh you know what else too, Uh if you

should plug your podcast, we never think that. We never remember to do

that all the honeycomb hideout Yeah yeah, yes, yes, so it comes

on. It comes on every hump day Wednesday, let me hum. And

it's basically a ninety minute conversational piece about tech industry, news, social media,

and the independent music business. Yes, yes it is. It is

excellent and I suggest everybody everybody check it out here. Don't forget Lexi's here

too. She has the Metal Honey's podcast, which she does bi weekly.

Yes, very good. So that that interviews bands, and she does Live

at the Table. Yes, yes, yeah, Jenny's in the chat with

me. He says he will have to come back to announce more bands.

Yes, definitely, of course, absolutely wonderful. Uh so, uh guys,

where well again, I have a great show tonight. I'm really it's

wonderful to meet you. And um, what should people know about how to

find you online? For people who want to follow what you're doing? The

Way is a dead recording official dot com that links you to everything we're on,

Spotify, iTunes, YouTube, you name it, TikTok, we got

it all and for every reason. If we're not on it, you need

to let us know. Yeah, yeah, we're not on it. Let

me know very You can talk to me almost at any time on I'm the

one that does all the talking on Facebook and everything oh okay, yeah,

I talked to all our fans. All right, excellent, excellent, very

good. Well we'll let you we'll let you all get out of here because

I know you've got uh you probably have to get back over to the venue

because doors are at six, right, yes, oh yeah, you gotta

you gotta jet. We're gonna we're gonna close out the segment with Pawns from

Dad Reckoning and uh looking forward to sharing this with everybody, and uh,

gentlemen, thank you all again. This has been wonderful, and ye for

having it. And William from Stepsis, thank you for bringing them by.

Oh man, thank you so much. Absolutely have a great show tonight.

And all right, so we have more show to come, but we're gonna

let these guys get out of here, and uh, here it is.

Thank you, you got it. This is Pawns Dad Reckoning. Check it

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We just had William from Sepsis and the headliner at tonight's event, Jewel

Dead Reckoning. They are on tour the Dead Army Takeover Tour. Sepsis is

on the show with them, of course, with Dead Reckoning along with Able

Blood and dust Profit who we opened the show with today and a couple other

bands as well. So that is all happening tonight and our friend Sam Beecherd

from Always Fourard Events, he is the local promoter on that and so doors

open at six pm and tickets are fifteen dollars. So it's an early show

because it's a Tuesday, it is a weeknight. But those guys are I'll

tell you what, and if they I would have liked to have gotten into

into a deeper discussion with the guys from Dead Reckoning on this subject if we

had time, but while we have time here, but they don't because they've

got to get back for sound check because it is an early show, so

they didn't. They didn't have a lot of time. So I'm really happy

that they were able to get over here and do this, do this interview,

but I would have been interested in discussing with them further the rigors of

touring and what it's like now, because the nature of touring has changed,

and it really, you know, when the pandemic hit, tours everywhere pretty

much ground to a halt because everybody was getting sick and places where you know,

everybody was shutting down and a lot of a lot of musicians found other

ways to get their music out there. And it was really kind of a

almost a renaissance in a way that might be too too strong a term to

use, but but there was a change in terms of how musicians began to

disseminate their live music to fans using uh, you know, using social media

and doing videos. And you saw a lot of artists doing uh these live

performances online where they're all in different locations, they're all at home, but

they're all on a zoom call together effectively, and they're all playing their instruments

live together and UH and doing that. So it kind of forced people to

open up to different ways of doing things, new ways of doing things.

UM. And then of course the pandemic started to wind down, and you

know, I guess it's behind us for the most part. But although I

don't think we're ever getting rid of COVID completely unfortunately, I think we're stuck

with it for the rest of our lives to some degree, but hopefully,

you know, a manageable degree. But anyway, UM, now though,

uh what started to happen is so artists started touring again, but because of

inflation. Inflation is you know, so out of control that it just has

become costs prohibitive, not only for you know, younger bands who are who

are building a following and trying to get out on the road when they can't,

um, you know, or up and coming developing bands Dead Reckoning.

I mean, they've been at it for twelve years and it looks like,

you know, they're on a real positive, like I said, a positive

trajectory. But but it's tough. You know, they're they're hitting the road

hard and uh, you know what what did they say, one hundred twenty

dates one hundred and thirty dates on this tour. I mean that's impressive.

Um, but even even uh really well established bands that that that play the

big hauls and you know, um, a lot of them have really had

to scale back just what they do because it's it's become not profitable, it's

become cost prohibitive. And what is really unfortunate about that is um a lot

of musicians will tell you that's where they make the money. It's interesting how

back when the Internet, when music effectively became free more or less on the

internet. When back when Napster remember Napster, when that first became a thing,

you know, and then companies like Spotify I figured out how to kind

of harness what was going on and saying, well, you know, you

know you might have to pay for it, but here's how you can pay

for it, but you know it'll be available to you so you don't have

to to download it illegally, so to speak. But anyway, when that

happened a lot of people in the music industry lamented that, well, so

physical CDs aren't selling anymore like they used to. And artists used to get

a certain amount. You know, it might be as little as you know,

a nickel per CD, right, a very small amount actually per unit.

Yeah, you know, you might get a quarter, you might get

a dollar, you know, depending on what's in your contract. But artists

would actually not make that much money on CD sales to begin with, and

before that on sales of vinyl. It was never a lot of money.

Now it's even less. Right people bemoan the checks they get from Spotify or

from other streaming services, iTunes and whatnot, and how little money it is

and how small those royalty rates are. But the truth is the money was

never in that anyway. The money had always been in touring. There are

artists who would would have a platinum sell album a million copies, you know,

back in the day, and and but but be broke. You know,

there's something called in the music industry, there's something called recoupment, which

is where so the record label advances you. I mean, this is the

old model. But the record label advances you. Say you're a big band

and you get a million dollar advance. That isn't the record label paying you

a million dollars to make an album for them. In other words, they're

not paying you a million dollars and then they're going to pay for you to

go make an album for them and that that But that million dollars is like

income for you. That's not what it is. When you hear about somebody

getting a million dollar advance, or when you used to back in the day,

that million dollars is an advance that goes to the making of the album.

They're advancing you that money, and you're going to go make that album,

and you might only spend half a million making that album. But and

the less money you spend on that making that album, the better, because

if you spend more than a million making that album, well now you're in

the red. But the truth is the record label is going to recoup that

money from you regardless. So before you even see a penny of royalty money,

say you know, they give you the million dollar advance, you use

that money to go make the album. You then have to pay back that

money. And the way you pay back that money is whatever royalties you make

on that album once it's released. Let's say it's released and it sells a

million copies, you got a big hit. Right again, that doesn't happen

anymore now, it'd be you know, because now we measure things the way

the industry has changed. Now we measure things and downloads instead of units.

But again, using the old school model, you sell a million copies,

you got a platinum selling album. Great, but you're not seeing any of

that royalty money until the record label is paid back the money, all the

money that they advanced you. And if you don't make enough to cover that,

if the album doesn't make enough to cover that doesn't matter that you sold

a million copies and now you're a platinum selling artist. You're not suddenly rich.

If anything, you know, you might be broke because if that money

is not enough to pay back the advance, then well that's gonna come out

of you know, the next album. I mean, they're gonna have to

advance you more money to make the next album. But the point is that's

never been where the money is. The money has always been in touring.

Touring is where you make the money. But even with touring, it's not

so much. You make the money on ticket sales sometimes you might break even

on that, but you make the money on selling merch selling t shirts at

the show and hoodies and post ss and CDs of course, because people still

do buy physical physical media. But the money has always been in the touring.

It's not in the making of the albums or today the MP three's for

the downloads. But the problem now is that the music industry is facing well

now. The money is not in the touring either, unless you're you know,

hey, if your Taylor Swift and her tour, her Heiress tour seems

to be a lot in the news recently. Um but uh, but unless

you're you're one of the big big names, you're not even making a lot

of money touring now. And that's that seems to be largely due to inflation.

There are other factors too, um As because of the Internet. Now,

when you go on tour, you're not only competing with other tours that

are also on tour at the same time. You're you're you're always competing against

whatever else is happening in the marketplace. You know, you're competing for those

entertainment dollars that consumers are going to spend in the marketplace. But you're also

now you're competing with staying home because stay at home is a lot more fun

than it used to be. You know, there was a time when stay

at home might mean watching television or watching a movie, or reading a book,

or just hanging out at home and listening to music or whatever. Today,

staying home might mean watching something on a streaming service or listening to a

podcast or whatever. You've got so many more you know, hanging out,

hanging out on Twitch and its streaming, while you're playing games with people,

video games. You've got so many more options now than ever before. As

far as what you can do at home and the pandemic, I think another

effect of the pandemic, and this part people don't really talk about much,

but I think the pandemic, because people had to stay home for a bit,

it kind of really acclimated people more than ever to get used to the

idea of just being home and just finding things to do at home and not

necessarily going out. So now we're in a post pandemic phase where people have

been somewhat retrained that staying home isn't so bad. You would think that people

would have a lot of pent up energy and would want to go out more

than ever because they had been stuck at home for a while. But going

out because of inflation, which again is partially caused by the pandemic, supply

chain issues, there's several factors. That is one of them. It's become

cost prohibitive to go out very much, right, So it's cost prohibitive to

tour, it's cost prohibitive to go to shows and go see these different tours.

So so the business is changing again. On the optimistic side, I

would say this, I think that the current state of things is temporary.

Inflation has to subside eventually, right, And I do think that. I

think the explosion of people going to see live music, or at least getting

back to a level that it was pre pandemic, I think that will still

happen, but it's taking longer to get there than people thought because people thought

it would be an immediate thing. If you take inflation out of the equation.

I believe it would have been I believe as soon as we really started

to come well, I mean, and I shouldn't say immediate, because coming

out of the pandemic was a gradual process, and people largely couldn't agree in

terms of when the pandemic was actually over. And I kind of at one

point to sort of shrugged and said, well, I guess the pandemic's over

when the emergency orders end. And then when the emergency orders end ended,

you know, the federal government said okay, well this is ending. Then

I said, okay, I guess that's officially it. Because people couldn't couldn't

really agree. I do think that I do think it's all going in a

positive direction. We just had a band in here talking about how they're just

out there. They're doing it. You know, I'm sure they're not making

a lot of money. I'm sure that band Dead Reckoning. They're not getting

rich out there, that's for sure, I promise you that. But they're

doing it. They're making it happen, and it sounds like it's paying off

for them and they're they're gaining more and more attention. I mean, hell,

they got to be on Matt Connerton Unleashed. I mean, you know,

no, I'm kidding, well, not really kidding, but no.

But in all seriousness, it was one erful to meet them, and more

power to them, and I do think they've got big things ahead, as

does Sepsis and some of our other friends as well. So that's my assessment

of it. But I would have loved to uh and we'll have them back

on maybe we can have them skype in or call in or something from the

road. I'd love to talk to them further, and I'd love to have

a deeper conversation with them about touring and what it's like like I said,

we got into a little a little bit, but we didn't have a chance

to really dig in deep because you know, they had to get back for

sound check, so they've got an early early ish show. But there you

go. We will Oh. I do want to say a load everybody in

the Facebook live chat too, because there's a lot of interesting comments in there.

But let me give the studio line one more time, or maybe maybe

two more times. We'll see six zo three two five O six Z seven

six three two five H six o seven if you would like to chime in

with anything. But let's look at the Facebook live chat one more time as

well, or maybe a couple more times. We'll see. We'll see how

much time we have. It's already twenty of our already almost out of show.

It goes so quickly. Mike from Queen City Cabinetry in the Facebook live

chat and says good afternoon everyone. Mike, of course one of our Queen

City Cabinetry, one of our great sponsors here at WMH ninety five point three.

But Mike also one of our co hosts on Retrospectrum Radio with Paul c

every Friday night. Archer Flight we mentioned is in the Facebook live chat.

Miriam Banish of course is in there. Let's see Melanie law Liberty from the

Great State of Vermont. Jenny of course is in the chat room and said

shalom peeps. Rona Favero from the Great State of California joins us. Eric

Nana Rone. I still know if I'm saying that correctly, but he did

share in the chat room he's got a podcast called the Nano Second Podcast,

and he shared a Lincoln there to his rumble channel. If you want to

check that out. Let's see Alex Whiteley, of course, our friend from

the UK joining us. William slam Car joins us in the chat. That

might be a new name in there. I'm not sure. I think actually

I think I might have seen William in there before. But William slam Car

says pollen, I'd say, and I think that was referring to our conversation

earlier with Dave Ridley, who sounded like he Dave Ridley at one point on

the phone sounded as though just an entire, big giant ball of pollen had

just sort of floated into his into his face. But then he seemed to

believing when I said to him, Dave are you Are you sick or is

it allergies? He's like, oh, do I sound funny. It's like,

dude, you don't hear your own scratchy voice. That's kind of an

odd moment. But yeah, clearly his allergies were bothering him. Archer Flight

says hashtag Matt, we're cool and sensitive, while archer Flight, I dare

say that's something we have in common. Miriam Banish says, my allergies are

bad, but there was some work being done along the road next to work

where I was outside walking for a little while today. So much dust flying.

Yeah, it's that time of year two. There's a lot of road

construction going on. Let's see. Scott Robinson is in the Facebook live chat.

I'm not sure what that commentment, so we'll skip that. Jay Fed

says, oh, my allergies have been terrible this year. Oh mine too,

Mine too. When I wake up in the morning, that's when mine

are the worst, and it's just a seizethon some days. William slam Car

said there will be just a few crazies at dork Fest. William not a

fan of pork Fest. It sounds like Scott Robinson points out again This is

in reference to our conversation with Dave Ridley. Changing some of Tulsi Gabbard's mind

is really something to hang your hat hat on. She's not crazy or anything.

I think Scott's being a little sarcastic there. Yeah, well, I

mean I expressed my thoughts about Tulsea Gabbard. Archer Flight says, we will

be performing on six twenty five, twenty three is karaoke at Center City Park,

downtown Greensboro, North Carolina. Wow, who knew. Let's see Alex

Whiteley pointing out again. This is in regard to our conversation with Ridley.

We have more than two parties now in the UK. The main ones are

Labor Tories, Liberal Democrats and the Green Party. Yeah, I wish we

had more than two. I mean, we have more than two parties here

too, of course, but you know, like we have the Libertarian Party

and we have the Green Party and so forth, but we only have two.

We have the two major parties that it's very much a closed circuit.

They kind of keep everybody out. Archer Flight says, we will never go

to the place for us porkfest. Oh okay. Scott Robinson says, this

is referring to our friend John Hopwood, who called in right after Dave Ridley.

Thank God, a voice of reason after all that nonsense. We just

sarved. I like Dave Ridley, I like talking to him. I mean,

obviously we disagree on some things, although we agree on some things too.

Archer Flight says, hello hashtag John hopwould we say to you from us?

Stephen Philberg says I missed the ghost of John McCain. Yeah, well,

I think that bit kind of wore itself out. But Jenny says,

sixteen is my lucky number. That's because earlier in the show, I was

talking about how the number sixteen fell out of the ceiling the other day,

out of the Satanic portal, I believe. Chris Rose joins us from the

Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Hello, Chris. Archer Flight had some questions for sepsis

and for dead reckoning, but we couldn't get to them. Alex Wiley says,

I feel like I've just fallen into the WWF attitude era. Let's see.

Oh. Melanie says in the chat room, this isn't our reference to

our conversation with Dad reckoning. She said, I don't want to brag,

but I'm building relationships in radio too. Yes, yes, oh boy,

let's see. I just want to make sure we don't miss anybody, miss

anybody in here. Alex Whiteley says, Oh, this is what I was

just discussing about the touring. Alex said, there's a great documentary called Artifact,

which explained the woes of even the biggest stars in the world versus the

giant record labels. This was about thirty seconds to Mars being sued for thirty

million dollars. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, I'd like

to see that. I'd like to see that documentary. Actually, that sounds

that sounds fascinating and certainly right up my alley, that's for sure. But

I believe my that is on the phone. Hello, hey man, how's

it going. I'm gonna be brief. I just wanted to mention a couple

of things, Yes, but I did want to get a great integraw.

I've only heard some of it. I'll get the full interview subsequently. But

um, what is the group, Matt, if you don't mind my asking

on the air? Sure from Texas. It's so good. They have a

female lead singer and you played one particular song a lot. I wrote it

down, but I think I lost the notebook I put it in. Yes,

yes, yes, I meant to text you back about that. The

song is called the song is called Angel, and the band is in Yeah,

and the band is Infinity Van. Yes, that is a great track.

Oh my god, is that a good track? Matt and Infinity Van.

Yeah, for some reason, know how it is? You know,

You're going through all these bands and I just can't come up with it.

So thank you. What a what a great presentation. But all these bands,

I mean the band that you saw Saturday night with Jen and Brooklyn Mikes

and the crew. What a great group they are. I mean it's like

right here in New Hampshire. Oh yeah, you know. And just for

them. I wasn't gonna mention this with just for the heck of it.

It's it's an innocuous kind of thing. Um, A couple of times a

year, Matt, I'll go on I was gonna say Google, I'll go

on Google, but I go on Facebook just to see, um, the

fifty States and uh, this is no oblique comment to mister Ribby either,

but but the fifty States and what ones are getting good reviews and New Hampshire

always comes in number what you know, probably top five, I would assume

absolutely. They well they're not only top five. New England states come in

top five typically, but New Hampshire always comes in number one. So just

something good for people to be aware of. Um I did one I could

just call in and mentioned this is an important day in history. I think

it's a seventy ninth anniversary of the Normandy Day landing in France. That was

very, very tricky and violent, of course, tragic in many ways and

risky is all get out. They didn't know whether it would work or not.

And your dad, your dad's your grandfather. My dad made that Normandy

landing. And I have a good friend I was in. It's funny how

things come around, Guys. I was in Southeast Asia. I'm not gonna

go into all that, but I learned finally not to volunteer. But that's

in the story. And there I am with a friend of the family who

lived in Massachusetts. I forgave him for that, but he lost his dad.

He made the Normandy landing in another company from my father's, but he

lost his life in combat, like within forty hours. Isn't that heartbreaking?

W Y, It's you know, but a great, a great victory,

and you know we had to stand up to evil. So I just want

to mention just two other things quickly, Matt. So I just wanted to

honor that day and prayers, whatever your tradition. I asked for prayers for

the country and the family, you know, during the landing and subsequently for

a couple of days. FDR, who was a great president. I mean,

he didn't do everything right. No president does, We're human, but

he those were the times in the forties, of course, that was forty

four when he would go on the radio and pray with the American people,

and it was considered sensitive and supportive intrinsically and non denominational essentially though FDR was

a Christian man. So finally, on a serious note, I'll end with

a positive thing here, but trust me, I'll be brief, but on

a on a challenging note, let me put it that way. Yes,

and I won't go into all the nuances here. I've talked about this with

colleagues today. But so I'm a big sports fan, Matt. I don't

know what happened with you with that, any any ideas on that, I

don't know. It's just uh yeah, I just never the only the only

sport I've ever really enjoyed isn't a real sport. But ah, I know,

I know, yeah, yeah, well you know, you know when

I was a kid, Matt Chris, I wrestled in high school. I

got pretty good at but that was Greco Roman wrestling. But when I was

a kid, I actually thought that it was real, completely real, and

I'll never forget. There was this championship out between Edward cup Pontier. Have

you ever heard of him? You probably don't know him, Edward cup Pontier.

Why don't you You've told me about him? Did I tell you about

Yes? Well, hey, he was that guy. He was from France.

Of course, he was tremendous, you know, he was athletic,

he was in shape, he could do all these things in the ring that

were just so scientific and quick and sharp. And so we had our championship

match with Killer Kowalski, you know, from Boston. I think it was

from Maldon originally, and uh so I said to my finally said to my

friend John Caferelli, said, there's no way that Killer Kowalski can beat Edward

Capontier, and yet he takes him two out of three falls, you know,

and say, wait a minute, So then they had a rematch.

Nothing go on on with this, but they had a rematch and it ended

in the draw, which of course meant that Kowalski kept the title. And

then I think Caponte eventually retired early his money back, and that's what I

began to think, Wait a minute, right, right, I just don't

quite believe this, and had the claw hole. I was gonna say that

the claw Yeah, as you know, I meant talk. I got to

meet Killer Kowalski once and but yeah, you know, and he had those

big hands. But yes, the claw that's a that's a pretty pretty sus

as the young people say. Oh yeah, I agree, I mean it

was funny. Yeah. And then I you know, I would check into

it and I realized, no, this is staged. Yeah. I mean

some great athletes though, you know, yeah, Argentina Rocca, Oh my

god, some of those guys. John Cena from Oriria's right, so yeah,

so quickly. I've been a Dodger fan since I was a kid,

and I was always a Red Sox fan. I've always been loyal to New

England and sports teams and god, the Pats really brought that in the Celtics,

so not this year, although they came back from three Dome to three

straight back. But anyway, Um, I've been a big Dodger fan,

but I will not be a Dodger fan anymore. I'm not going to go

into the whole story. But you know, we talk. I think the

first time I actually called your program that I was concerned about. I had

reflected on this and again talk with colleagues about it. But the rise and

anti semitism around the world, and you could see it and you could feel

it, but also in America, which is really daunting. I thought we'd

come a long way. I think we have come a long way. Don't

get me wrong against all of that anti semitism, but there's a big push

now and I'm not going to name names, except there's a guy in the

White House who shows absolutely no leadership on this, and he should be saying

something about it. There's a movement, an anti Christian in particularly anti Roman

Catholic movement in this country that is on a par in my judgment, and

I will say it openly, with sportively and with kindness. It's become on

a par now, and I think for a lot of reasons I won't go

into with anti semitism in this country and around the world also, But the

LA Dodgers, I'm not going to name the hate group, but they were

going to sponsor a hate group coming up in at the end of June.

I think it's June twenty fifth, in conjunction with another celebration, which is

fine. But the hate group desecrated the Holy Eucharist. They've done all kinds

of things, you know, all kinds of anti Catholic demonstrations and reporting and

verbiage that's just bizarre and stupid, but it's hateful. It's intrinsically hateful and

undermining of truth and freedom and democracy. And the Dodgers said, you know,

so the bishop protested out there with LA. Catholics wrote in, Christian

Protestant brothers wrote in, Jewish people wrote everybody, I think even Islamic people

wrote in and said this is not right. This is a form of violence

and hatred. And the LA Dodgers looked at it and said, okay,

so they canceled it. With this hate group. I could name them,

but I'm not gonna name him. You can google them. You may know

them already, and I'm not. I'm gonna ask you not even to mention

these dopes. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know the story,

so I don't know. I'll have to look at it back toward. Yeah,

yeah, it'll come right up, Matt, It'll come right up.

And and I don't this is a hate group. I don't connect them with

entertainment and performers who are doing their own things and not attacking the Catholic Church.

There's you see what I mean. You're gonna see that when you google

it. It's a distinction I'm making there for sure, and I want people

to know that. So this is not a counterattack. It's it's it's being

assertive and standing up for liberty and civil liberties and my right as an individual

to practice my faith safely and with compassion and love for all people, even

those with whom I disagree. Well, putin maybe an exception. So they

canceled it. Then of course they got and this happened to Uh, I'm

not going to mention they happened to a band member you like too. It

was a very similar thing. I could mention, but I won't, So

they revisited it, and now they brought the hate group back. So it's

like a big finger to those of us in the Christian community who object.

And it's not only in the Christian communities. Faith communities in this country have

placed this objection right at the feet of the La Dodgers, And at first

they said we're sorry, you know, but then they got some heat from

the other side with a lot of hate, and they said, Okay,

we're gonna bring them back. We're gonna do this thing. So who knows.

I mean, you know, we've got a couple of weeks, Matthew,

so they may change their mind again. They're getting a lot of pressure,

but we CNN a CNN journalist asked the secretary, whom I have no

respect for the press Secretary, Um, what what the president might say about

this as a Catholic? Now is he really a Catholic? It's another story.

But and she just got in the middle of that, wouldn't answer that

question, wouldn't say anything about the president and his leadership responsibilities. Had just

said she she wouldn't get in the middle of that controversy. So it's it's

really pathetic, it's unreasonable and it's intrinsically untenable. We don't stand up as

a community against all hate, then there's something lacking in us, in our

character. I just wanted to put that out there for you, all right

and the audience to reflect us. I'll look that up. Dad. We

are absolutely out of time that we got to go. Oh sorry, yeah,

that's okay. I appreciate the call. All right, Well remember d

Day. Yes, and thank you Matt for all you're doing with these musical

groups. They're terrific. But your interview skills and Jenny's interview skills are terrific

also. Oh, thank that out there. Thank you, Thank you dad.

All Right, we gotta go. Thank you for the call, love

you, love you too. Be well bye bye, thanks bye bye.

All right, that was my dad, Martin Connerton. We are absolutely out

of time. Thank you everybody. Thank you Dad reckoning for coming in and

William from sepsis, and uh they're gonna have a great show tonight, and

uh that's it. We gotta go. Uh WMH Radio dot org, Matt

Connerton dot com. I'll talk you y' all tomorrow. Bye, everybody,

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