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0:22 Speaker 2: an exclusive world radio premiere. This isn't coming out until

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0:29 Speaker 2: brand new single from yon Man, Summertime Love.

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2:58 Speaker 2: So I love it. That is a summertime love by

3:40 Speaker 2: yon Man and hopefully we'll get yon Man on the

3:43 Speaker 2: show soon. But that track officially comes out July thirty first,

3:48 Speaker 2: So you heard it here first, right here on WMNH

3:51 Speaker 2: and ninety five point three and of course here on

3:54 Speaker 2: Matt Connorton Unleashed. And welcome to the show everybody. We

3:58 Speaker 2: got an exciting show for are you this week from

4:02 Speaker 2: the WM and H ninety five point three FM studio

4:05 Speaker 2: here in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire, And of course you

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4:16 Speaker 2: streaming options. Hello to our friends in Australia who are

4:21 Speaker 2: tuning in. By the way, talked about that with Charles Richardson.

4:25 Speaker 2: I was on the Charles Richardson Show this week on

4:28 Speaker 2: Wednesday night. You can find that on YouTube just do

4:30 Speaker 2: a quick search for the Charles Richardson Show and I

4:33 Speaker 2: was on the most recent episode with him. We talked

4:35 Speaker 2: about a lot of interesting stuff, to say the least,

4:38 Speaker 2: but that was that was a lot of fun and

4:42 Speaker 2: all of it, all of it things I won't get

4:44 Speaker 2: into here, but yeah, check out the latest edition of

4:46 Speaker 2: The Charles Richardson Show. Charles Richardson. Also, by the way,

4:49 Speaker 2: now one of my colleagues over at Dere Media Group

4:52 Speaker 2: on Radio X so that's exciting. So but yeah, we

4:56 Speaker 2: had a pretty in depth conversation. I was on with

4:59 Speaker 2: them for the entire two hours, so it was a

5:00 Speaker 2: lot of fun. We did do some wrestling talk at

5:02 Speaker 2: the end too, so if that is not your thing,

5:04 Speaker 2: I would caution you to maybe avoid that part of

5:08 Speaker 2: the show, but that was at the very end. Not

5:10 Speaker 2: everyone likes the wrestling, but yeah, so it's been quite

5:15 Speaker 2: a week, a very busy week. And of course it

5:18 Speaker 2: is July twenty five, twenty twenty six. As we are

5:25 Speaker 2: getting toward toward the end of July. July is kind

5:29 Speaker 2: of my favorite month because summer is my favorite time

5:31 Speaker 2: of year, although I really liked June as well, because June,

5:35 Speaker 2: you're just getting into summer and it's like, oh, we

5:38 Speaker 2: still have the whole summer. You get toward the end

5:39 Speaker 2: of July, it's like, uh oh, even though we still

5:43 Speaker 2: have you know, I mean, there's August. But the thing

5:46 Speaker 2: about August is you get about midway through August and

5:50 Speaker 2: you start to have those days where it'll still be

5:52 Speaker 2: really hot during the day. You might have a ninety

5:54 Speaker 2: degree day in the middle of August, but something changes

5:58 Speaker 2: at night, like you get these these wild temperature swings

6:02 Speaker 2: where it might be ninety degrees in the day and

6:03 Speaker 2: then as soon as the sun goes down, the temperature

6:06 Speaker 2: just plummets, and all of a sudden, it doesn't feel

6:09 Speaker 2: like summer at night, and then you think, well, this

6:12 Speaker 2: is slipping away. So but part of why that's on

6:16 Speaker 2: my mind is as a certain individual who does a

6:18 Speaker 2: podcast and although he's old, so he continues to use

6:22 Speaker 2: the term internet radio, even though that's that's become very

6:25 Speaker 2: arcane and antiquated term. But he was talking about the

6:28 Speaker 2: other day on his show, Yeah, you know, Summer's almost over,

6:32 Speaker 2: trying to Yeah, I guess he's gonna take a break.

6:34 Speaker 2: He's gonna take another break. He takes many many breaks

6:38 Speaker 2: from his show, many hiatuses, but he's like, yeah, summer's

6:42 Speaker 2: almost over. You know, got to enjoy the last rows

6:45 Speaker 2: of summer. It's like, dude, it's not even the end

6:47 Speaker 2: of July yet. Don't say that. But I do so

6:52 Speaker 2: love the summer. So it was cool to be able

6:54 Speaker 2: to play Summertime Love by yon Man as we enjoy.

6:58 Speaker 2: I like anything related to my favorite time of a year.

7:00 Speaker 2: Although then again, I'm not particularly a big fan of

7:04 Speaker 2: sort of like, you know, beach music and that type

7:07 Speaker 2: of type of stuff. But anyway, so because I don't

7:10 Speaker 2: go to the beach, that's not what I like about summer.

7:12 Speaker 2: I don't go to the beach. I don't like to

7:14 Speaker 2: be out in the sun. I burn easily. There's a

7:17 Speaker 2: history of melanoma in my family. Plus I get bored easily.

7:20 Speaker 2: So it's not that it's not like I do. I

7:23 Speaker 2: don't even do anything outdoorsy. I don't do outdoorsy summer things.

7:27 Speaker 2: If you're a regular listener of the show, you've heard

7:29 Speaker 2: me talking about my paralyzing fear of deer ticks, for example.

7:33 Speaker 2: So it's not even that that's not what I love

7:35 Speaker 2: about summer. I just love that it's hot. I like

7:38 Speaker 2: the heat. I don't like the cold. I love the heat.

7:41 Speaker 2: So needless to say, I'm not a fan of winter,

7:43 Speaker 2: but summer is my time. But we do have an

7:45 Speaker 2: exciting show again. It was fun to do the premiere

7:48 Speaker 2: of the new track from Yon Mine, and we will

7:50 Speaker 2: do that, of course, later on in the show, probably

7:52 Speaker 2: in the second hour. In the third hour, we'll get

7:53 Speaker 2: that in as well. Coming up in just a few minutes,

7:56 Speaker 2: we're gonna be joined via phone by Rob Weiss of

7:59 Speaker 2: the band Deerarad. Really looking forward to talking to Rob.

8:02 Speaker 2: In the second hour. Today we have the return of

8:04 Speaker 2: Nikolai kine Or, also known as his The name of

8:08 Speaker 2: his project is No Seva. I can never remember is

8:10 Speaker 2: it no Siva or Nosiva? But we will find out

8:14 Speaker 2: when nikola is here with us. We've got a brand

8:16 Speaker 2: new single that we're gonna play just came out, and

8:19 Speaker 2: that also will be a world radio premiere. I promise

8:22 Speaker 2: you you have not heard this anywhere else. And then

8:24 Speaker 2: in the third hour we have the return of Superbug,

8:27 Speaker 2: such a great band. They've got a new release, they've

8:30 Speaker 2: got a bunch of new tracks. We're gonna feature on

8:32 Speaker 2: the show today. Cannot wait to talk with them as well.

8:34 Speaker 2: So we've got a fun show for you today. But

8:36 Speaker 2: I think what we should do right now is we're

8:39 Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and play one of these songs from

8:40 Speaker 2: Dear Darkhead, and then if all goes according to plan,

8:44 Speaker 2: which sometimes it does, we will have not always live

8:48 Speaker 2: radio is an adventure, you just never know. But we

8:51 Speaker 2: should have Rob Weise from the band Dear Darkhead on

8:54 Speaker 2: the studio line with us. Can't wait to talk to him.

8:57 Speaker 2: I really like this project. We're gonna play right now

8:59 Speaker 2: the idol track from the album The Pendulum Swings. So

9:04 Speaker 2: this is called the Pendulum Swings. And again the band

9:07 Speaker 2: is Dear Dark Head.

10:05 Speaker 4: In any.

11:13 Speaker 6: Anything, I don't in anything.

11:50 Speaker 2: Doing that is the Pendulum Swings. That is the title

13:52 Speaker 2: track from the album The Pendulum Swings from Dear Dark Head,

13:56 Speaker 2: and Rob Wise is going to be joining us from

13:59 Speaker 2: the band just a moment. But while we wait where

14:02 Speaker 2: he calls us, I want to play one more Yeah,

14:06 Speaker 2: let's play this track, letting Go. This is kind of

14:08 Speaker 2: the focus track, as we say in the industry. This

14:11 Speaker 2: is really good too. I want to seek this in

14:12 Speaker 2: before we talk to Rob. That is letting Go from

17:25 Speaker 2: Dear Dark Head. The album is called The Pendulum Swings.

17:28 Speaker 2: Just came out July tenth, so it's very new. And

17:31 Speaker 2: let's see. We've got Rob Weiss on the phone line,

17:34 Speaker 2: I believe, with us on the studio line. Hey, Rob,

17:37 Speaker 2: Hey there, how you doing? Is it just your Are

17:39 Speaker 2: any other band members with.

17:41 Speaker 7: You that we have Kevin Harrington here the guitar player

17:44 Speaker 7: as well.

17:45 Speaker 2: Oh awesome, Hi Kevin? You doing good?

17:48 Speaker 6: Good?

17:48 Speaker 2: Welcome guys. So I really like this. I was surprised

17:53 Speaker 2: to learn you guys have been around for a hell

17:57 Speaker 2: of a long time. So is this true that The

17:59 Speaker 2: Pendulum Swings is your first new full length album in

18:02 Speaker 2: twenty five years? Is that accurate?

18:05 Speaker 7: Yeah? Actually, yeah, I mean we have. We did put

18:08 Speaker 7: an EP out back in twenty sixteen that was instrumental,

18:11 Speaker 7: but in terms of a full length album, the last

18:13 Speaker 7: thing we did was an album called Unlocked the Valve

18:16 Speaker 7: the Feeling when we had a vocalist. So it's been

18:18 Speaker 7: a while for a full length.

18:19 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I gotcha. So this album obviously is all

18:22 Speaker 2: it's all instrumentals, correct, yep, correct, So you did have

18:26 Speaker 2: a vocalist at one at one time. So for the

18:30 Speaker 2: EP you said, so, I mean, how does that What

18:33 Speaker 2: goes into the decision whether or not to work with

18:34 Speaker 2: a vocalist or record an album of instrumentals? And this

18:37 Speaker 2: is by the way, you know, it's a full length album,

18:39 Speaker 2: but for people who haven't listened to it, who are

18:41 Speaker 2: skeptical of instrumentals, it's really good. And my you know,

18:45 Speaker 2: in listening to it, my perception is it's kind of

18:47 Speaker 2: like as you can hear with those songs, you know,

18:49 Speaker 2: the lead guitar kind of fills that that space that

18:54 Speaker 2: a vocalist might, right, But what goes into that decision

18:57 Speaker 2: to do instrumentals.

19:00 Speaker 8: We haven't really made a decision to be instrumental. We

19:03 Speaker 8: just ended up being instrumental once are there are formal

19:06 Speaker 8: singer left. Yeah, So it's basically we carry on until

19:10 Speaker 8: we find a vocalist or we stopped. So we basically

19:14 Speaker 8: always wrote instrumentals, even when we had the singer, So

19:18 Speaker 8: now we just are instrumental and it's just because of

19:22 Speaker 8: having to move forward versus stop.

19:25 Speaker 2: That's interesting. Is it a challenge to do it that

19:30 Speaker 2: way or does it because it almost sounds like it's

19:32 Speaker 2: probably pretty organic, right you don't you know, you didn't

19:36 Speaker 2: decide to approach it this way. This is just how

19:38 Speaker 2: you're doing it out of Really it sounds like out

19:40 Speaker 2: of necessity more than anything else. I mean, is that

19:43 Speaker 2: a challenge to make these songs work as instrumentals or

19:47 Speaker 2: is it pretty pretty simple?

19:50 Speaker 8: Not necessarily at all anymore? This is just the way

19:52 Speaker 8: we write.

19:53 Speaker 7: Yeah, I will I will say I think it puts

19:56 Speaker 7: a little more pressure on cavit because easy since there

19:59 Speaker 7: is no vocal as you point out, melodically, he's carrying

20:03 Speaker 7: the weight of the song and the emotion and you know,

20:05 Speaker 7: the effects, and so he puts a lot of time

20:07 Speaker 7: and effort. So I think it would be nice to

20:09 Speaker 7: have a vocalist sometimes if we found the right person,

20:12 Speaker 7: but we don't really rely on it and we're pretty

20:15 Speaker 7: comfortable doing it and Kevin does a great job handling

20:17 Speaker 7: that role.

20:18 Speaker 2: Absolutely.

20:19 Speaker 8: Interaction with a live show. I think a singer would

20:22 Speaker 8: be nice, because it always was great to have a

20:25 Speaker 8: dedicated singer, a dedicated person to interact with the crowd.

20:31 Speaker 8: But we're so used to doing it this way that

20:34 Speaker 8: this is really just the.

20:35 Speaker 2: Way we think, right, No, that makes sense, and uh yeah,

20:39 Speaker 2: and Rob, as you pointed out Kevin, you know, is

20:41 Speaker 2: able to you know, really kind of carry the weight

20:44 Speaker 2: of what a vocalist does in these songs and it

20:46 Speaker 2: it just works. I'm curious live, I mean, do you

20:50 Speaker 2: approach these any differently when you play them live than

20:52 Speaker 2: versus how you recorded them? Is there a little bit

20:55 Speaker 2: extra pressure, uh when you're doing these live or or

20:59 Speaker 2: how does that work? What's your approach live?

21:03 Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think really we change things up

21:05 Speaker 7: too much. Occasionally there'll be a song where we did

21:07 Speaker 7: something in the studio and we've had to adapt it

21:10 Speaker 7: slightly differently live just because you know, we wanted to

21:13 Speaker 7: spend a little more time in the studio. We can

21:14 Speaker 7: do more or track more guitars. We might do a

21:18 Speaker 7: slightly different version of the song, but in general, it's

21:21 Speaker 7: pretty much what you hear is the way we found live.

21:24 Speaker 8: Okay, not have a rhythm guitar track live because it

21:29 Speaker 8: doesn't really well, we can't do it, but we do

21:32 Speaker 8: things in a way that you really probably wouldn't even

21:35 Speaker 8: notice that it's not there. Yeah, that's accurate because we

21:39 Speaker 8: fill the space.

21:41 Speaker 2: Right, So right, that makes sense. And you know, for

21:44 Speaker 2: me personally, and some people will disagree with me on this,

21:48 Speaker 2: and I know that to a lot of people, it's

21:50 Speaker 2: very important that when they go to see a band

21:54 Speaker 2: live that they hear things as close as possible to

21:57 Speaker 2: what they did in the studio. And I've always looked

21:59 Speaker 2: at that a little bit differently. If I go to

22:01 Speaker 2: see a band live and there's something different because you know,

22:04 Speaker 2: as you guys pointed out, you know, maybe there's not

22:06 Speaker 2: that rhythm guitar track there because you can't do that live,

22:09 Speaker 2: you know, unless you were to bring in an extra guitarist. Right,

22:12 Speaker 2: If that means that it sounds a little bit different,

22:15 Speaker 2: and maybe live it sounds a little bit a little

22:17 Speaker 2: bit raw, it sounds a little bit uh you know, Uh,

22:22 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly the term I'm looking for, but

22:24 Speaker 2: but I think you get what I'm saying. If it

22:26 Speaker 2: changes a little bit live, that's that's actually to me,

22:31 Speaker 2: that's a good thing. I find that interesting. I know

22:34 Speaker 2: not everyone, not everyone looks at it that way, but

22:36 Speaker 2: that's how I've always looked at it.

22:38 Speaker 7: Yeah, I get that. I think you know, in the past,

22:41 Speaker 7: we've kind of just performed things as we did things

22:44 Speaker 7: on the record, and I think we've loosened up a

22:46 Speaker 7: little bit more and kind of try to find different

22:49 Speaker 7: ways of doing things. When you're instrumentally, you have to

22:51 Speaker 7: find new ways of sort of entertaining yourself and making

22:55 Speaker 7: the songs very accessible even though.

22:58 Speaker 8: There's no vocal.

22:59 Speaker 7: So we spent a lot of time doing that, and

23:01 Speaker 7: I think we've been really happy so far with the

23:04 Speaker 7: reviews we've been getting back. It seems like people really

23:07 Speaker 7: are getting it as an instrumental record and not feeling

23:11 Speaker 7: like not having vocals is a detriment.

23:15 Speaker 2: Right right When when the singer left, was it like,

23:22 Speaker 2: did you guys kind of make some I guess I'm wondering,

23:27 Speaker 2: because it sounds like it was just a very organic thing. Okay,

23:29 Speaker 2: we're going to do this live until we find a singer.

23:31 Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to do this instrumental until we

23:32 Speaker 2: find a singer. If we don't find a singer, you know,

23:35 Speaker 2: we'll just keep doing what we're doing. Was that your

23:40 Speaker 2: initial reaction to when the singer departed, or was there

23:44 Speaker 2: ever a moment where you guys kind of talked about

23:46 Speaker 2: it and said, well, we have to find a singer

23:50 Speaker 2: because if we don't, we can't continue, And then maybe

23:52 Speaker 2: your mindset shifted. I don't know, I mean, what was

23:55 Speaker 2: your initial thought when the singer left.

23:59 Speaker 5: I think we just.

24:00 Speaker 8: Expected to find a singer, But then once we started

24:02 Speaker 8: auditioning a few people, we just realized how hard it

24:06 Speaker 8: was going to be to find someone that was the

24:08 Speaker 8: right fit. And eventually we realized that, well, we're not

24:11 Speaker 8: fighting the right fit. But at this point, like I said,

24:14 Speaker 8: we've always done an instrumental or two on our previous

24:18 Speaker 8: work prior to Mike leaving. But we were really accustomed

24:23 Speaker 8: to just playing you know what we've played, whether it's

24:26 Speaker 8: a song with vocals or not. And the more time

24:29 Speaker 8: that passed, we just really got used to it, and

24:31 Speaker 8: we started writing around it, and here we are now, yeah,

24:35 Speaker 8: many years later.

24:35 Speaker 9: Yeah.

24:36 Speaker 7: I think also Mike, we were really accustomed. Mike had

24:39 Speaker 7: been in the band for a very long time, and

24:42 Speaker 7: you know, he played, he sang and he also played guitar,

24:46 Speaker 7: and he also played bass, and he was just a

24:49 Speaker 7: really great composer and he'd been with us a long time.

24:52 Speaker 7: So it was kind of a hard act to follow,

24:55 Speaker 7: you know. We just, like Kevin said, we thought we'd

24:57 Speaker 7: find somebody. We just were disappointed with any budy that

25:00 Speaker 7: we actually you know, auditioned, and we didn't sort of

25:04 Speaker 7: want to ruin our legacy of what we'd done with

25:06 Speaker 7: a vocalist right past. So going instrumental felt the kind

25:10 Speaker 7: like organic.

25:11 Speaker 8: Ya Okay, I think having another input maybe not that

25:15 Speaker 8: it would jeopardize what we were used to, but when

25:18 Speaker 8: Mike was with the band, the three of us were

25:21 Speaker 8: all songwriters that contributed relatively equally. So then Rob and

25:27 Speaker 8: I took over, and we maybe were a little reluctant

25:30 Speaker 8: to add a third party in that didn't share the

25:33 Speaker 8: same direction, though, Yeah, for reasons of control. It's sort

25:39 Speaker 8: of I mean, I was always pleased that we maintained

25:43 Speaker 8: just the two of us without an outside source that

25:46 Speaker 8: I really didn't follow the same vision.

25:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always the hard part when you have to

25:52 Speaker 2: replace somebody or try to replace somebody, you know, there's

25:55 Speaker 2: always that worry, Well, what if we bring somebody in

25:57 Speaker 2: and what if they seem like they fit in the beginning,

25:59 Speaker 2: but then a turn out, the chemistry isn't there. They

26:01 Speaker 2: don't quite fit as you refer to, you know, fit

26:03 Speaker 2: the vision of what you're doing. That can be very challenging.

26:08 Speaker 2: And so for you guys to be able to make

26:10 Speaker 2: this work as well as you do, and it works

26:12 Speaker 2: really well without even having to necessarily worry about having

26:16 Speaker 2: a singer, I mean, that's that's excellent, and I think

26:18 Speaker 2: it says a lot about what you're doing and what

26:20 Speaker 2: you know, what the chemistry is that you guys have.

26:22 Speaker 2: Obviously you guys have incredible chemistry together to be able

26:25 Speaker 2: to pull this off. I'm curious about the title, the

26:29 Speaker 2: Pendulum Swings, if that has anything to do with kind

26:33 Speaker 2: of the history of the band or maybe I'm reading

26:35 Speaker 2: too much into it. But and I also noticed too

26:37 Speaker 2: that it closes the album, which is unusual. You know

26:39 Speaker 2: a lot of times the title track from an album

26:42 Speaker 2: will be the opener, but in this case it's it's

26:44 Speaker 2: the closer. But tell me about that, and tell me

26:46 Speaker 2: about why you chose the title the Pendulum Swings.

26:51 Speaker 8: It was really the title of the song because it

26:55 Speaker 8: just felt like something relevant to time when I was

26:58 Speaker 8: writing it. Yeah, and Rob liked this for a closer. Yeah,

27:03 Speaker 8: Kevin's could.

27:04 Speaker 7: He often is very good at openers or closers.

27:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it matters. I mean, that's you know, the

27:10 Speaker 2: way you sequence the album, and that's something people don't

27:12 Speaker 2: don't necessarily think about. But if you, uh, it matters

27:16 Speaker 2: a lot. You know, because you're trying to with an album,

27:19 Speaker 2: you know, you're you're sort of trying to tell a story,

27:21 Speaker 2: even if it's not, even if you don't necessarily think

27:23 Speaker 2: of it that way, there has to be a in

27:25 Speaker 2: order for the album to be cohesive, there has to

27:27 Speaker 2: be a certain flow to how the songs are ordered,

27:30 Speaker 2: so that that matters a lot. But yeah, I do

27:33 Speaker 2: think it's the perfect closer for the album. I did

27:35 Speaker 2: listen to the whole thing and I really like it.

27:39 Speaker 2: I'm also so, you know, I'm curious about some of

27:43 Speaker 2: these songs. Are these all relatively new or because you

27:48 Speaker 2: guys have been around for so long, or any of

27:50 Speaker 2: these songs that maybe go back to an earlier period

27:54 Speaker 2: of the time period of time, or did any of

27:57 Speaker 2: them maybe even you had recorded before with a vocal

28:00 Speaker 2: and now we're getting an instrumental version of them. I'm

28:03 Speaker 2: curious about the actual songs that are on the album.

28:07 Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's kind of range of stuff. For instance,

28:10 Speaker 7: some Tears, that was a track we were doing when

28:13 Speaker 7: Mike was in the band, so that was an instrumental okay.

28:16 Speaker 7: And also Sad Songs in Better Days. That one actually

28:20 Speaker 7: had vocals and was one of the last songs we

28:22 Speaker 7: did with Mike vocally as a new song at that

28:26 Speaker 7: time period. And then there's a lot of new songs

28:28 Speaker 7: on the record too, like the Pendulum Swings and Black

28:31 Speaker 7: Pearls and In Another Life Letting Go. They're all relatively

28:36 Speaker 7: new songs.

28:36 Speaker 8: It's really a split five relatively older they're reaching back,

28:40 Speaker 8: and five relatively new ones as to much more new

28:44 Speaker 8: ones or brand new. Yeah, we did the last three

28:48 Speaker 8: songs on the record after we recorded the first seven, Okay,

28:53 Speaker 8: you just wanted to round it out and spend a

28:55 Speaker 8: little bit more time, So those were brand new.

28:58 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay. I'm also curious about this. So you recorded

29:03 Speaker 2: at minor street recordings in Philadelphia, is that correct? That's right,

29:09 Speaker 2: and you worked with this, says Brian mctair. I hope

29:11 Speaker 2: I'm saying the name correctly and Amy Morrissey, and I'm

29:15 Speaker 2: really I'm really interested because again, you know, certain genres

29:19 Speaker 2: of bands, you know, they're they're everywhere, but there's not

29:22 Speaker 2: a lot of instrumental bands that do what you do,

29:25 Speaker 2: you know, truly instrumental in terms of this album. What

29:29 Speaker 2: went into deciding to work with them and them deciding

29:32 Speaker 2: to work with you, because I would imagine because this

29:35 Speaker 2: project is unique because it is all instrumentals. You know,

29:39 Speaker 2: that probably wasn't you know, It's not like you were

29:41 Speaker 2: throwing throwing darts at a board in terms of who

29:44 Speaker 2: you wanted to produce the album, right, Yeah, I'm sure

29:47 Speaker 2: a lot went into this decision to record at Minor

29:50 Speaker 2: Street Recordings. But tell me about that and how you

29:52 Speaker 2: came to work with Brian and Amy.

29:55 Speaker 7: So, actually this is the second time we've worked with them.

29:59 Speaker 7: We did an EP called Strange Weather, and we recorded

30:03 Speaker 7: that there at Minor Street. Although they weren't behind the deck.

30:08 Speaker 7: There was another gentleman there named Jonathan Love who was

30:10 Speaker 7: working out of the studio. But that's we did record

30:13 Speaker 7: in the studio for those six songs.

30:14 Speaker 2: Okay, So it's kind of we.

30:16 Speaker 7: Really are pleased with the way that EP came out,

30:18 Speaker 7: so it was just a no brainer to go back

30:19 Speaker 7: there again. But this time Amy and Brian were, you know,

30:23 Speaker 7: engineering everything. They're the owners of the studio and we

30:27 Speaker 7: actually just we had our record release party last week

30:30 Speaker 7: in Atlantic City and their band Bitter Bitter Weeks came

30:33 Speaker 7: and played with us, so it was a really great night.

30:36 Speaker 7: But they're just they've done a lot of really great

30:39 Speaker 7: artists in Philly, like people like Were On Drugs, Dead Milkman,

30:44 Speaker 7: Kurt Vile. They're just like one of the best studios

30:47 Speaker 7: in Philly and in the fish Town area and kind

30:49 Speaker 7: of like we're just very comfortable there and.

30:52 Speaker 2: You know, it's like home excellent. Yeah, so it was

30:56 Speaker 2: you know, obviously everyone was happy to work together. That's

30:59 Speaker 2: that's good. Do you think that? I mean, I don't

31:01 Speaker 2: know how far ahead you're thinking. I understand this album

31:04 Speaker 2: is very new, it just came out July tenth, but

31:05 Speaker 2: are you thinking of going back there in the future

31:07 Speaker 2: to work on the next one. It sounds like you

31:09 Speaker 2: guys are always writing, so I assume there's going to

31:12 Speaker 2: be more recording in the future.

31:14 Speaker 7: We have a handful of new things and I mean.

31:19 Speaker 8: It's time to start working on new stuff. We've been

31:21 Speaker 8: well acquainted with these throughout the recording process and playing

31:25 Speaker 8: them live. Yeah, so I'm really ready to start working

31:28 Speaker 8: on some new stuff. Of course, to push this as well.

31:30 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, i'd like to.

31:32 Speaker 7: Ideally, i'd like to get in there sooner than later

31:35 Speaker 7: and maybe do like a four song EP, just to

31:37 Speaker 7: rather than try to get a whole new album out

31:39 Speaker 7: and you know, get something out quickly on the tail

31:41 Speaker 7: of this, cause while we're riding, you know, the press

31:45 Speaker 7: wave of this, and you know, keep keep the momentum

31:48 Speaker 7: going right right.

31:49 Speaker 2: No, that makes sense, That makes sense. So I have

31:52 Speaker 2: not asked you the obvious question yet. I try not

31:55 Speaker 2: to open the interview with the obvious question. But what

31:58 Speaker 2: does the name mean? Dear head? And I should say

32:01 Speaker 2: too for people who don't know, it's it's one word.

32:03 Speaker 2: It's it's stylized as one word. But what does that mean?

32:06 Speaker 2: Dear darkhead?

32:08 Speaker 10: Yeah.

32:08 Speaker 7: So when we started the band nineteen eighty eight, we

32:13 Speaker 7: used to rehearse at my house and nobody could at

32:16 Speaker 7: the time, nobody could decide, you know, on a name.

32:20 Speaker 7: So I went through all the books I had this

32:22 Speaker 7: giant bookshelf behind my drum kit, and I went through

32:24 Speaker 7: all the books and I literally wrote down like two

32:27 Speaker 7: hundred names, and I would just run through the names,

32:30 Speaker 7: and you know, I just looked through the books and

32:31 Speaker 7: out of context, anything that caught my eye, you know,

32:33 Speaker 7: whether it's a book an architecture, or airplanes or the

32:36 Speaker 7: encyclopedia or poetry, I would write down anything that caught

32:41 Speaker 7: my eye. And so I'd reaped through the list, and

32:43 Speaker 7: everybody's like, no, no, no no, And I got the

32:46 Speaker 7: deer ark hid and everybod raised their hand. I'm like, Okay,

32:48 Speaker 7: that's it. That's the name. We all agree. It was

32:50 Speaker 7: the only name that we all liked. And it's just

32:53 Speaker 7: the It's an Irish poem from like the eighteen hundreds,

32:59 Speaker 7: and it just like a love poem about a woman

33:01 Speaker 7: with like, you know, a beautiful woman with dark hair.

33:04 Speaker 7: But we kind of liked it out of context, uh,

33:07 Speaker 7: and we wasn't something that wouldn't be like a name

33:10 Speaker 7: that anybody else would come up with. And it actually

33:12 Speaker 7: kind of worked in our benefit benefit because later on

33:15 Speaker 7: when the Internet came about, you know, if you google it,

33:20 Speaker 7: the only two things that come up are that poem

33:22 Speaker 7: and us, so it makes it edis for us.

33:23 Speaker 8: To be found.

33:24 Speaker 2: You were ahead of your time in that sense. That's great.

33:27 Speaker 7: Yeah, we pre con you know, we prefigured the Internet.

33:31 Speaker 2: That's awesome. No, that's great. Also, I'm curious to ask

33:34 Speaker 2: you about Fertile Cress and Records because this is a

33:37 Speaker 2: label that you guys, you guys run, correct, this is

33:40 Speaker 2: your label.

33:41 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just for us to put our own things out.

33:43 Speaker 7: I mean, the last EP came out on a small

33:46 Speaker 7: label in Texas called Saint Marie Records that kind of

33:49 Speaker 7: focused on Shoegay's music, but they kind of morphed into

33:53 Speaker 7: a brick and mortar mail order record store, so they

33:57 Speaker 7: stopped putting out records.

33:59 Speaker 2: Okay, so we to side.

34:00 Speaker 7: We shopped it around and you know, let's be honest,

34:04 Speaker 7: when you've been in a band for thirty eight years,

34:06 Speaker 7: in your instrumental Shoegates band, it's a tough sell and

34:11 Speaker 7: music industry isn't as strong as it used to be,

34:13 Speaker 7: so we don't.

34:14 Speaker 8: Really get any bytes.

34:14 Speaker 7: So we put it out ourselves and we're we're very

34:17 Speaker 7: happy with the way it came out.

34:19 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's excellent. Yeah, and you know, of course, because

34:22 Speaker 2: it's your own label. It gives you, you know, total

34:24 Speaker 2: control over everything. That's that's that's excellent. And this is

34:28 Speaker 2: the album too. Obviously it's available digitally. It's on band

34:31 Speaker 2: camp and you know, I love band camp. I encourage

34:33 Speaker 2: everyone to support band camping very artist friendly and so forth.

34:36 Speaker 2: On CD, and you've also released us on vinyl, correct, Yeah,

34:41 Speaker 2: just a short.

34:41 Speaker 7: Run one hundred and eighty grand black vinyl. You know,

34:44 Speaker 7: if we sell out, we'll do another. We'll do another

34:46 Speaker 7: run of it. Yeah, you know, there's definitely a We

34:49 Speaker 7: definitely sold more copies of that than we did on

34:51 Speaker 7: the CD at the record release, So there's definitely a

34:54 Speaker 7: h an appetite for vinyl out there.

34:56 Speaker 2: Absolutely.

34:57 Speaker 1: Well.

34:57 Speaker 2: My theory is too, I think a lot of people

34:59 Speaker 2: who purchased vinyl i'll never actually play it. They I

35:02 Speaker 2: think that. I think that a lot of people purchase

35:04 Speaker 2: vinyl because if you're a fan, you know, so if

35:07 Speaker 2: you're a big fan of Dear Darkhead, it's cool too.

35:09 Speaker 2: Even if you don't have a record player at home,

35:10 Speaker 2: it's cool to just have it, you know. And and

35:13 Speaker 2: you know, I've seen people, you know, they they'll mount

35:15 Speaker 2: the the album covers on the wall or something, whether

35:19 Speaker 2: the actual record is left in it or not. But

35:22 Speaker 2: but yeah, vinyl is the resurgence of vinyl, and of

35:24 Speaker 2: course it never actually went away, which is something people

35:26 Speaker 2: don't realize. But the incredible resurgence of it, you know,

35:30 Speaker 2: that that's happened in the last several years is amazing.

35:33 Speaker 2: And digital and physical media in general too. You know,

35:36 Speaker 2: CDs people are still releasing CDs. A lot of people

35:39 Speaker 2: thought those would be gone by now, you know, by

35:42 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, but now CDs are still being released.

35:45 Speaker 2: And I mean, is it important to you guys to

35:48 Speaker 2: have that physical media? I mean, obviously vinyl, nothing sounds

35:51 Speaker 2: better than vinyl, But is that something that's important to

35:54 Speaker 2: you guys? And was there ever a point, because again,

35:56 Speaker 2: you guys have been around a while, was there ever

35:58 Speaker 2: a point where you guys said, yeah, we're just going

36:00 Speaker 2: to release things digitally for right now, because that seems

36:04 Speaker 2: to be because if we were having this conversation ten

36:06 Speaker 2: years ago, that seemed to be where everything was going.

36:09 Speaker 2: And you know, it turned out again physical media is

36:11 Speaker 2: still very important. But has that always been important to

36:14 Speaker 2: you guys, or was there ever a point over your

36:16 Speaker 2: career where you've thought, nah, maybe we will just release

36:19 Speaker 2: things digitally.

36:22 Speaker 8: I'd say that.

36:23 Speaker 7: We've always put out physical media. I think it's important

36:26 Speaker 7: has physical media. I think one of the biggest issues

36:28 Speaker 7: is like, if you're the Beatles, nobody worries about that

36:31 Speaker 7: record disappearing, like digitally or physically. But if you're a

36:35 Speaker 7: smaller band, like how many times have you gone to

36:38 Speaker 7: Spotify or any streaming site and something you was listening

36:42 Speaker 7: to is no longer on there right if you don't

36:44 Speaker 7: have a physical copy of it.

36:45 Speaker 8: It disappears.

36:46 Speaker 7: So I would encourage people if you like something from

36:48 Speaker 7: a band that's maybe not as you know, big as

36:51 Speaker 7: the Beatles, you might want to purchase the record and

36:54 Speaker 7: it's just nice to have a physical you know, keepsake

36:58 Speaker 7: of that, whether you went to a show or I

37:01 Speaker 7: worked in a record store.

37:01 Speaker 8: So I'm a little biased, and you know same.

37:04 Speaker 7: I'm a bit of a record junkie, So yeah, I'm

37:07 Speaker 7: a little biased. We've always done me and I think

37:09 Speaker 7: it's I think you see people like to support fans

37:13 Speaker 7: when they go to the show, and I just think

37:16 Speaker 7: that's the way to go. Digital is nice, but it's

37:19 Speaker 7: kind of like it's kind of it's just kind of

37:22 Speaker 7: empty people, I think when tangible experiences.

37:25 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. You know, when I was growing up,

37:28 Speaker 2: I always loved looking at especially if I was a

37:30 Speaker 2: really big fan of an artist, looking at liner notes,

37:33 Speaker 2: and you know, I would geek out on all that stuff.

37:35 Speaker 2: And I was so happy if I opened something up

37:37 Speaker 2: and the lyrics were actually printed in there, I was

37:40 Speaker 2: in heaven. So yeah, I absolutely get that. By the way,

37:43 Speaker 2: So you brought up a really interesting point too, as

37:46 Speaker 2: many conversations as I've had about this very subject on

37:48 Speaker 2: the show, something no one's ever brought up before, but

37:51 Speaker 2: it's a fantastic point. If you are depending only on

37:53 Speaker 2: digital media, you're right. You know, something that's on Spotify

37:56 Speaker 2: today for whatever reason, might not be there tomorrow. Maybe

37:59 Speaker 2: the artists or the label or somebody decides to pull

38:02 Speaker 2: it off of Spotify for some reason, or you know,

38:05 Speaker 2: something happens that causes it to disappear. And if that's

38:08 Speaker 2: where you were depending on, if that's the platform you

38:10 Speaker 2: were depending on to get that particular release, and now

38:14 Speaker 2: it's gone and you don't have a you don't have

38:16 Speaker 2: a physical copy of it, Well now you've got to

38:17 Speaker 2: go digging, you know, maybe it's on YouTube, maybe it's not.

38:20 Speaker 2: You know. So that's a really great point that you

38:23 Speaker 2: brought up. And so the one thing you can depend

38:24 Speaker 2: on if you have a physical copy of something is

38:27 Speaker 2: that you have it and it's never going anywhere and

38:29 Speaker 2: no one can take it away from you.

38:32 Speaker 8: Absolutely, your friends might steal our records, but right, yeah,

38:35 Speaker 8: maybe they weren't friends.

38:36 Speaker 2: Anyway exactly, So what's or it just.

38:41 Speaker 8: Proves that they were friends with better musical case than

38:43 Speaker 8: you thought.

38:45 Speaker 2: Well, there you go, class half full. You have this record, yes, yeah, yeah, and.

38:48 Speaker 8: Hang it on your walls. They make great artwork, just

38:51 Speaker 8: like you said earlier.

38:53 Speaker 2: So, uh, circling back just quickly to the live aspect.

38:56 Speaker 2: Do you guys playing a lot of shows? I would

38:57 Speaker 2: imagine you're you're doing shows to uh just support the album.

39:00 Speaker 2: But what's what's that like? What's your touring schedule?

39:03 Speaker 5: Like?

39:03 Speaker 2: Right now, we've just got.

39:06 Speaker 7: We just finished this record release party. We don't really

39:08 Speaker 7: have anything lined up at the moment. We're kind of

39:11 Speaker 7: taking a little time to regroup, work on some new material,

39:13 Speaker 7: and then book a bunch more shows. So you know,

39:16 Speaker 7: we kind of do it.

39:17 Speaker 1: We can.

39:17 Speaker 7: It's not our we don't do this as a full

39:20 Speaker 7: time thing. It's more of a lifestyle and we've been

39:23 Speaker 7: at it for a long time. Longevity is sort of

39:26 Speaker 7: our goal for success and being able to do what

39:28 Speaker 7: we want. So we try to play when we can

39:30 Speaker 7: fit it around our schedules and whatnot. But we do

39:33 Speaker 7: spend a lot of time on it and we try

39:36 Speaker 7: to do it to the best level that we can

39:37 Speaker 7: do and get ads to as many people as we can.

39:40 Speaker 8: We'd love to play anywhere.

39:41 Speaker 2: Absolutely excellent, excellent in a moment. Well, we're going to

39:46 Speaker 2: play another track from the album at the end of

39:49 Speaker 2: our conversation, but before we start to wrap up, And

39:52 Speaker 2: by the way, I want to thank both of you

39:54 Speaker 2: very much for joining us today. This has been a

39:55 Speaker 2: wonderful conversation. Rob Wis and Kevin Harrington of course from

39:59 Speaker 2: the band Dear Darkhead. But let me ask you this,

40:02 Speaker 2: where is the best place Well, as we discuss you,

40:05 Speaker 2: it's very easy to google you, but where's the best

40:08 Speaker 2: place for people to go online to keep up with

40:10 Speaker 2: everything that Dear Darkhead is doing.

40:13 Speaker 7: So deardarkhead dot com. If you go there, you can

40:17 Speaker 7: get to all our social media and stream platforms pretty

40:22 Speaker 7: much sets the main place to get get our stuff.

40:25 Speaker 7: But we're on all the you know, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, whatever.

40:29 Speaker 7: But if you go to our website gardarkhead dot com,

40:32 Speaker 7: it has all the latest news and links to other.

40:34 Speaker 2: Places outstanding, outstanding. Well, okay, so one more question, guys,

40:38 Speaker 2: I'm going to kind of put you on the spot here.

40:40 Speaker 2: What song I'm gonna let you pick? I did open

40:42 Speaker 2: today with I played the Pendulum Swings and I played

40:45 Speaker 2: Letting Go. I was able to sneak into what song

40:48 Speaker 2: should I play at the end of our conversation from

40:50 Speaker 2: the album I'll let you guys pick told you I

40:56 Speaker 2: was going to put you on the spot the right

41:00 Speaker 2: exactly exactly.

41:03 Speaker 8: How about sad songs in better days?

41:06 Speaker 2: Sad songs and better days? Let's see, let me just

41:09 Speaker 2: make sure yep, there it is boom, all right. Any

41:13 Speaker 2: particular reason for does a song anything we should know

41:16 Speaker 2: about it? Any any particular meaning that we should know about?

41:19 Speaker 2: And why you chose the song?

41:22 Speaker 8: I like this one because of the energy. It always

41:25 Speaker 8: has a great live presentation.

41:29 Speaker 2: Okay, perfect, It's just yeah, it's just got good energy

41:33 Speaker 2: to it. Perfect.

41:34 Speaker 7: And this one was, as I said, this one used

41:36 Speaker 7: to have vocals. It was like the last the last

41:38 Speaker 7: song we did vocally with our old singer.

41:41 Speaker 2: Oh okay, interesting, gotcha, Okay, well, so we will close

41:45 Speaker 2: our conversation with that. We're gonna hit that track, Sad

41:48 Speaker 2: Songs in Better Days. But again, Rob and Kevin, guys,

41:51 Speaker 2: thank you so much. It sounds like you've got a

41:53 Speaker 2: lot of good stuff coming up, so we will definitely

41:55 Speaker 2: do this in the future again, and congratulations on the album.

41:59 Speaker 2: And I'm sure we'll talk again soon.

42:02 Speaker 8: Thank you very much.

42:03 Speaker 7: Thank you for having us.

42:04 Speaker 8: We really appreciate it.

42:05 Speaker 2: All right, anytime, guys, thank you, take care, bye bye

42:08 Speaker 2: ye bye bye. All right. That was Rob Wis and

42:10 Speaker 2: Kevin Harrington from the band Dear Darkhead. And let's give

42:14 Speaker 2: this a spin. This is from the new album and

42:16 Speaker 2: again it just came out July tenth, very new. This

42:18 Speaker 2: is called Sad Songs in Better Days.

43:10 Speaker 3: Sh S.

43:37 Speaker 5: S S S S S S S S S S.

45:17 Speaker 3: S S.

45:32 Speaker 5: S s.

45:53 Speaker 3: S.

46:55 Speaker 2: That is Sad Songs and Better Days. The band is

46:57 Speaker 2: Dear dark Head. New album, The Pendulum Swings, just came

47:02 Speaker 2: out on July ten. Thank you again to Rob Weiss

47:05 Speaker 2: and Kevin Harrington from the band Dear Darkhead. Really enjoyed

47:08 Speaker 2: talking with them, and I think we're gonna sneak in

47:11 Speaker 2: one more track from the new album in just a moment,

47:14 Speaker 2: but again, check it out the full album. It is

47:17 Speaker 2: up on band camp if you want to get it digitally.

47:20 Speaker 2: And as I refer to too during our conversation, I

47:23 Speaker 2: love band camp. It's very artist friendly. So I'm a

47:25 Speaker 2: big proponent of band camp. And what a lot of

47:28 Speaker 2: people don't know, and if you're a regular listener, you've

47:30 Speaker 2: heard me say this before, but with band Camp, if

47:33 Speaker 2: you get the tracks from there, you actually get a

47:35 Speaker 2: higher quality file then you'd get if say you're just

47:38 Speaker 2: streaming the music on YouTube or whatever it may be.

47:40 Speaker 2: So I recommend band Camp. I like it a lot

47:44 Speaker 2: if you are listening live. Of course, today is a Saturday,

47:48 Speaker 2: July twenty five, twenty twenty six. Coming up in the

47:50 Speaker 2: second hour, Nikolai Kine from the project No Siva or Nosva.

47:54 Speaker 2: I gotta get a refresher from him on how to

47:56 Speaker 2: say it. He's gonna be with us in studio and

47:58 Speaker 2: we're gonna do a world radio premiere for him brand

48:00 Speaker 2: new single. Cannot wait to talk to him. And then

48:02 Speaker 2: in the third hour, we have the return of Superbug.

48:06 Speaker 2: They've got some new songs as well. Really looking forward.

48:09 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see those guys. So we've got

48:11 Speaker 2: a fun show for you today. By the way, I

48:14 Speaker 2: don't know if he's listening, but Rob from Verizon at

48:18 Speaker 2: the Mall of New Hampshire here in Manchester, thank you

48:20 Speaker 2: for helping me out. Yesterday. I got a brand new

48:22 Speaker 2: phone and I had an incident. I was at the

48:26 Speaker 2: mall and it's a good thing I was where I

48:29 Speaker 2: was where there happened to be a Verizon store because

48:32 Speaker 2: my phone I had a Samsung was it Galaxy S

48:36 Speaker 2: twenty one something, I don't know. I'd had it for

48:39 Speaker 2: a long time, probably too long, and it just stopped.

48:44 Speaker 2: It just stopped working. It blue screened or whatever the

48:47 Speaker 2: cell phone whatever the Android equivalent is to a blue screen.

48:50 Speaker 2: He just did some weird thing on the screen and

48:52 Speaker 2: then just turned itself off, even though I had plenty

48:54 Speaker 2: of battery. And then I turned it back on. So

48:56 Speaker 2: I got the phone restarted and it seemed to be

48:58 Speaker 2: fine for maybe five minutes, and I was like, oh,

49:01 Speaker 2: that was just a weird flukish, freaky thing.

49:05 Speaker 4: Man.

49:05 Speaker 2: Then it did it again and it wouldn't stay on,

49:08 Speaker 2: and so they they hooked me up. They couldn't fix

49:11 Speaker 2: it and it wasn't worth fixing anyway. Phone had to

49:13 Speaker 2: be five years old. Maybe not that long, maybe four years,

49:16 Speaker 2: but it was an old phone. So I got a

49:19 Speaker 2: brand new phone. And again thank you to Rob at Verizon.

49:21 Speaker 2: They are not a sponsor of the show. They're not

49:23 Speaker 2: a sponsor of the station at all. You know, no

49:26 Speaker 2: one's giving me money to say that, but but the

49:29 Speaker 2: service that I got there was excellent and I really

49:30 Speaker 2: really appreciate it and they were able to help me out.

49:35 Speaker 2: So again, that's the Verizon store at the Steeple. I'm

49:37 Speaker 2: not at the Steeplegate Mall. That's from when I lived

49:39 Speaker 2: in Conquered at the Mall of New Hampshire here in Manchester,

49:42 Speaker 2: New Hampshire, so I recommend going there. On that note,

49:48 Speaker 2: let's play one more Yeah, let's sneak this in coming undone.

49:53 Speaker 2: We're gonna seek in one more track from Dear Darkhead

49:55 Speaker 2: because I really like these guys a lot. After that,

49:57 Speaker 2: we're gonna show some love to our amazing sp sponsors

50:00 Speaker 2: here at wm n H ninety five point three FM.

50:03 Speaker 2: And then when we come back in the second hour

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50:08 Speaker 2: so again. This is called Coming Undone. This is from

50:10 Speaker 2: the new album just came out July ten from Dear Darkhead,

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