Field Dispatch
Matt Connarton Unleashed 7-26-25 hour 2
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Speaker 9: I'm what a great song. That is Stockholm Syndrome. That's
Speaker 9: the song. The artist is Lyle Hutchins and we're going
Speaker 9: to talk to Lyle in just a moment. Welcome everybody.
Speaker 9: We have entered our number two New Marrow dose of
Speaker 9: Matt Connorton Unleashed. If you are listening live on Saturday
Speaker 9: July twenty six, twenty twenty five, we are broadcasting, of course,
Speaker 9: from the studios of wm n H ninety five point
Speaker 9: three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Jenny is here
Speaker 9: as well at the news table and joining us via
Speaker 9: Microsoft teams. He's been waiting patiently Lyle Hutchins is here.
Speaker 5: Hello, Lyle, hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 10: Guys.
Speaker 9: Happy to be here, absolutely no, thanks for your patient.
Speaker 9: We are running a little bit behind this morning, but
Speaker 9: it's great to talk with you. Don't worry that we
Speaker 9: have plenty of time. I love that song. That is great.
Speaker 9: I love your voice. Thank you absolutely. Now is that
Speaker 9: relatively new? That's your newest single? Correct?
Speaker 5: So yeah? I just on June twenty seventh, I just
Speaker 5: released my debut album and it's fourteen songs and that
Speaker 5: one we just released a music video for on YouTube.
Speaker 9: So oh excellent.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so I've been I just graduated from college
Speaker 5: in New Orleans, studying music and this is sort of
Speaker 5: my my big project is putting everything into so super
Speaker 5: happy for it to be out on the airwaves and everything.
Speaker 9: So, oh, congratulations, Are you in New Orleans now?
Speaker 5: No, I just moved back to New Hampshire.
Speaker 11: Actually, funny enough, I was in Manchester the other week,
Speaker 11: so oh no kidding, yeah, yeah, what what's what's the
Speaker 11: bigger culture shock moving to New Orleans for time or
Speaker 11: or coming coming back after uh after going to school there.
Speaker 5: It's you know, I I don't know, probably moving in
Speaker 5: New Orleans for the first time. It's it's mostly the
Speaker 5: heat and getting used to how nice everyone is. People
Speaker 5: are nice here, but the I think the kind of
Speaker 5: trademark New England bluntness, which personally I kind of like, like,
Speaker 5: you know, if you break down on the side of
Speaker 5: the road, somebody will help you, but they'll call you
Speaker 5: an idiot the whole time. But yeah, I think I
Speaker 5: think it's it's probably a bit of bolt maybe I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, I get it, I get it. Yeah, the
Speaker 9: heat that I mean, it's it's humid there too, right,
Speaker 9: it's not a dry heat in Orleans. Yeah yeah, never
Speaker 9: actually never actually been, I've never actually been.
Speaker 5: But it's a great city.
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, yeah, no doubt. Now that you're back in
Speaker 9: New Hampshire, I mean, do you do you plan to
Speaker 9: say ground up here or what's your what's kind of
Speaker 9: your next move.
Speaker 5: I'm not totally sure at this point, but I'm probably
Speaker 5: going to stick around to Hampshire for a while, especially
Speaker 5: since I've been playing these shows and music stuff's been
Speaker 5: going pretty well. So yeah, I'm kind of seeing seeing
Speaker 5: where things will go, but I'm enjoying being back up
Speaker 5: here right now for sure.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Excellent, excellent. So tell me about your name, because I
Speaker 9: was reading something about you online that your name is
Speaker 9: actually uh well, tell us about the name Lyle Hutchins
Speaker 9: and where it comes from, because it has a specific derivation.
Speaker 5: Yes. So my folks met in a like nineties alt
Speaker 5: country band and they were really inspired by people like
Speaker 5: Lyle love It. So that's where Lyle comes from. And
Speaker 5: actually got to meet Lyle love It my junior year
Speaker 5: of college. I got picked my college with a couple
Speaker 5: of other friends to go to Americana Fest in Nashville. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I got to meet him there and actually said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: like I'm named after you, and he was I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5: So it was really funny. But it turned out to
Speaker 5: be a super nice guy and it was a very
Speaker 5: cool opportunity. But yeah, it was kind of a cool
Speaker 5: full circle moment for me personally. But yeah, that's where
Speaker 5: the name comes from.
Speaker 9: Okay, Okay, So your parents so they were in a
Speaker 9: band together in the nineties.
Speaker 5: M M yeah, like a local It was called Selling Buicks.
Speaker 13: Okay, yeah, but I think it was.
Speaker 5: I don't know how long it lasted exactly, but yeah,
Speaker 5: that's uh. I get a lot of my musical influence
Speaker 5: from them and kind of the artists that they raised
Speaker 5: me listening to do.
Speaker 9: Did they teach you how to play or and and
Speaker 9: to sing or or did you kind of learn that
Speaker 9: on your own?
Speaker 5: So I yeah, I definitely my dad helped me with
Speaker 5: some very like basic guitar stuff when I was younger
Speaker 5: and getting kind of like accompanied me while I sort
Speaker 5: of sang my way through a couple songs that I liked,
Speaker 5: but I didn't stick with it.
Speaker 10: Fun.
Speaker 5: When I was I was in like a school choir
Speaker 5: pretty young, so I did a lot of that, and
Speaker 5: I did some musical theater stuff, so I got a
Speaker 5: lot of singing kind of the technique of it from that.
Speaker 5: But guitar wise, I wanted to learn guitar when I
Speaker 5: was younger, but my dad had watched an interview with
Speaker 5: Prince where Prince was talking about how artists should have,
Speaker 5: you know, creative control and should be able to understand
Speaker 5: things like music theory, and so he was kind of
Speaker 5: pointing out that you should learn the piano first. So
Speaker 5: I actually learned piano before I learned guitar, which I
Speaker 5: do actually credit with a lot of my music theory knowledge.
Speaker 5: And I only picked up guitar at the end of
Speaker 5: sophomore year in high school. Okay, so I've been playing
Speaker 5: for six years. Like seriously, I think I pooled around
Speaker 5: on it before. But yeah, but yeah, that.
Speaker 9: Makes sense of what you were saying about learning piano first,
Speaker 9: because this is a subject that comes up on the
Speaker 9: show every once in a while. I've heard a lot
Speaker 9: of a lot of you know, music instructors and various
Speaker 9: people say over the years that that is a really
Speaker 9: good way to go because even if you have no interest,
Speaker 9: you know, even just learning some very basic keyboarding skills.
Speaker 9: Even if you have no interest in playing a keyboard,
Speaker 9: it really kind of trains your brain to, you know,
Speaker 9: in terms of how to think of chord structures and
Speaker 9: learning music theory. Sadly, I did not start that way.
Speaker 9: I wish that I had. I can't play keyboard at all.
Speaker 9: I'm a bass player and I can play a little
Speaker 9: bit of guitar. But but I've heard so many people
Speaker 9: say that it really the ideal thing is to start
Speaker 9: on keyboard and then go from there because once you
Speaker 9: have that, everything else is going to be easier to learn.
Speaker 9: And it makes sense. I didn't know that Prince said that,
Speaker 9: but it completely makes sense because and obviously he must
Speaker 9: have been onto something because Prince was one of those
Speaker 9: people who could play anything.
Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, yeah, sure, you know he had.
Speaker 9: I did hear him though. I heard him say in
Speaker 9: an interview once. So I think this was an interview
Speaker 9: that I read might have been in Rolling Stone, that
Speaker 9: people had a misperception of him that you know, he
Speaker 9: could just pick up any instrument and just know how
Speaker 9: to play it, that he was that much of a genius,
Speaker 9: and that it wasn't that it was that he just
Speaker 9: was able to learn to play anything, but there was
Speaker 9: still a learning process and he could learn. He could
Speaker 9: learn very quickly, probably because he had those skills of
Speaker 9: learning on piano first. He could learn very quickly, but
Speaker 9: he still had to learn how to learn to play everything.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I also read something about you that you like when
Speaker 9: you did a project in grade school, and that was
Speaker 9: kind of like the beginning of your sort of almost
Speaker 9: an awakening of realizing that this is what you wanted
Speaker 9: to do. Is that correct?
Speaker 5: Yes, definitely. So I went to this very small.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 5: I think I joined the school in sixth grade, and.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: We had this thing called Olympics Studies. The school's Mountain
Speaker 5: Shadows and it's near Dublin, Haamshire anyways, Okay, but they
Speaker 5: they basically it was like I can't remember how long exactly.
Speaker 5: It probably felt longer than it actually was as a kid,
Speaker 5: but it was like two to four weeks out of
Speaker 5: the year. You would focus on one subject, like really intensely,
Speaker 5: and you could pick kind of what you wanted to
Speaker 5: focus on. And so in my eighth grade I was
Speaker 5: really interested in songwriting, and so I picked that and
Speaker 5: one of the people that worked at the school at
Speaker 5: the time was Duncan Pellettier, and he's a great musician
Speaker 5: and it's a really nice guy. And he kind of
Speaker 5: took to his apartment where he had like a little setup,
Speaker 5: and we recorded some songs that I was writing, I
Speaker 5: think on the ukulele actually because I didn't know how
Speaker 5: to play, oh guitar at that time, but and recorded
Speaker 5: like a little EP that I still have stored away
Speaker 5: somewhere on my computer. But yeah, any and in short,
Speaker 5: that moment kind of I realized like, oh, I really
Speaker 5: loved doing this. I love the recording process, I love
Speaker 5: writing the songs, and I love performing them. So it
Speaker 5: kind of just it all kind of came together and
Speaker 5: I realized like, oh, this is really what I want
Speaker 5: to do.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that was that moment for me for sure.
Speaker 9: Did you say that you were playing the ukulele?
Speaker 7: I was, yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean I still have the same one lying around somewhere.
Speaker 9: Well, so you learned that before you learned guitar.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I think it was the it was the
Speaker 5: era of a lot of cringy white people on the
Speaker 5: internet playing like I looked back on and out it
Speaker 5: crudge a little bit, but I think it was what
Speaker 5: was that song riptied by vance Joy? It was like
Speaker 5: a big thing in my when I was in eighth grade, Okay,
Speaker 5: and I think I had gotten euclid, and I think
Speaker 5: I just learned some like very because some of the
Speaker 5: like chords are just you just put one finger down
Speaker 5: or something, and so I didn't know exactly what I
Speaker 5: was doing, but I learned enough to be like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I like this and that kind of thing. But I
Speaker 5: think I had a song on the EP that we
Speaker 5: made that was on piano as well. But yeah, that's
Speaker 5: where I started doing the more string instruments thing.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, And I assume, I mean, your parents must
Speaker 9: have been pretty supportive through all this, right as you're
Speaker 9: doing this as musicians themselves. I always say that's really
Speaker 9: important if you have supportive parents, you know, who are
Speaker 9: gonna really help you kind of foster that and you know,
Speaker 9: and and encourage you to keep going. I think that
Speaker 9: makes a big difference.
Speaker 5: Right definitely. I'm I'm so grateful for them. They've been
Speaker 5: really supportive, like every step of the way, sometimes more
Speaker 5: supportive than I've been myself. But yeah, I'm really lucky
Speaker 5: to have them. And just I think getting Yeah, like
Speaker 5: the older perspective of someone who's actually been a musician
Speaker 5: and been in a band is great. Yeah, And just
Speaker 5: growing up with that like musical influence and a lot
Speaker 5: of the people they were listening to was pretty awesome too.
Speaker 9: So oh yeah, that's interesting what you said about sometimes
Speaker 9: they may have pushed you more than you you know,
Speaker 9: or encouraged you more than you were able to yourself.
Speaker 9: Were there were there times when when you were getting discouraged,
Speaker 9: but they you know, they they obviously, you know, obviously
Speaker 9: they believe in you. There your parents, right, but were
Speaker 9: they were they kind of sort of helping to push
Speaker 9: you along at times where maybe you, I don't know,
Speaker 9: maybe you were discouraged or maybe you were losing interest.
Speaker 9: You know, sometimes as we're growing up, sometimes our priorities changed.
Speaker 9: I mean, what what do you mean, like expand on
Speaker 9: that a little bit.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, it's funny because they I definitely
Speaker 5: always had like a musical I wouldn't necessarily say natural talent,
Speaker 5: but I had an inclination. I just knew I liked it.
Speaker 5: But I think they never really wanted to They didn't
Speaker 5: want to be those parents that were like, you know,
Speaker 5: trying to make a prod prodigy out of their.
Speaker 17: Kid, and.
Speaker 5: And so I think they were they they would kind
Speaker 5: of like gently nudge me in a direction. But you know,
Speaker 5: it's funny, I think I definitely there were a lot
Speaker 5: of moments like that where I kind of felt discouraged
Speaker 5: or because I didn't. I'm still quite bad at reading.
Speaker 5: I mean, I can read a churt Yard pretty well,
Speaker 5: but when it comes to standard notation, reading a melody
Speaker 5: and everything, especially guitar wise, I'm so slow. Part of
Speaker 5: it is just because it's not really what I've wanted
Speaker 5: to prioritize career wise, I put less time into it.
Speaker 5: But but I you know, going to music school, especially
Speaker 5: where one of one of my favorite artists, Saint Vincent,
Speaker 5: she read a quote from her where she said she
Speaker 5: went to Berkeley, and she was talking about kind of
Speaker 5: musical athleticism, like the sort of competition that I can
Speaker 5: play this scale the fastest I can, like tech, technical
Speaker 5: proficiency and instrument which I think is a great thing
Speaker 5: to learn. And I was very grateful that I got
Speaker 5: to learn from so many great mentors in music school,
Speaker 5: but sometimes being surrounded by people whose only focus is
Speaker 5: technical proficiency versus like artistic, you know, creation can be
Speaker 5: a bit demoralizing, and so I definitely started to feel
Speaker 5: that during kind of like midway through college, like I
Speaker 5: might not be technically proficient enough or you know, kind
Speaker 5: of just the I think you can lose perspective when
Speaker 5: you're when you're in a place where everyone is so good.
Speaker 5: So I think I think there was some of that.
Speaker 9: But yeah, that's interesting. That's interesting, And and tell me
Speaker 9: a little bit about about your influences, because I you know,
Speaker 9: obviously I listened to the single Stockholm Syndrome, but I
Speaker 9: also went back and was listening to on band camp
Speaker 9: some of your your earlier work too. And in fact,
Speaker 9: another another song that I really love is uh. Although
Speaker 9: I don't think this one's very this one might even
Speaker 9: be on the album mis Staying in Line on the
Speaker 9: album Yes, Okay, Yeah, that song I'm going to play
Speaker 9: at the end of our our segment because I really
Speaker 9: like I really like that one too. But I'm curious
Speaker 9: about your influences because I can hear a lot of
Speaker 9: different things in there. It sounds like, uh, you know,
Speaker 9: and it makes sense that you know, your parents being musicians,
Speaker 9: it makes sense that you would be probably exposed to
Speaker 9: a lot of different kinds of music from a very
Speaker 9: young age. But but but I'm curious about who who
Speaker 9: influences your songwriting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think it's changed a lot. When
Speaker 5: I was growing up, I had a huge radio head phase,
Speaker 5: so there's that well though, yeah, I don't know that
Speaker 5: I'm as I still appreciate them, but and you know,
Speaker 5: there was I think stuff. I think there was things
Speaker 5: that trickled in from my folks like Wilco Son Vault,
Speaker 5: like all that kind of nineties alternative country stuff. But
Speaker 5: I think the I really started coming into my own
Speaker 5: with some artists that I admired in high school. A
Speaker 5: huge one for me is Rustin Kelly. He's like a
Speaker 5: sort of Americana alternative country as well artist. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: I just really connected with his songwriting. And he also
Speaker 5: fuses elements of things like pop punk and and some
Speaker 5: electronic things into his songwriting, and that really inspired me.
Speaker 5: I'm also a huge Bony Bear fan, so I've listened
Speaker 5: to I'm Yeah, I've enjoyed every album from the beginning,
Speaker 5: and that was a when I was in middle school.
Speaker 5: My dad played me for Emma Forever Ago and that
Speaker 5: really kind of sparked something within me songwriting wise. I'm
Speaker 5: also a huge snail Mail fan, especially from her first
Speaker 5: album Lush. I think she was a huge reason why
Speaker 5: I started playing guitar. Was just really inspired by her
Speaker 5: electric guitar style because she'd play electric, but she'd played
Speaker 5: fingerstyle a lot, so that was something that I was
Speaker 5: always kind of drawn to. And so it's changed a lot.
Speaker 5: Those are those are three big ones. Recently, I've just
Speaker 5: I've been on a huge Tyler Childers kick, so I've
Speaker 5: been really enjoying his stuff. But yeah, it's been It's
Speaker 5: been a little bit of a little bit of everybody.
Speaker 5: I'm sure there's some more. I think I'll tack on
Speaker 5: two other quick ones. Porches is a is a project
Speaker 5: that I'm a huge fan of. Just the kind of
Speaker 5: d I Y do yourself thing has always appealed to me,
Speaker 5: especially with like the home recording aspects, and that's something
Speaker 5: that that band does really well. And also for similar reason,
Speaker 5: Josie and the Vonnaville's is a big influence for me too.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, and what and and tell me about your
Speaker 9: your lyrics a bit because it feels like again I
Speaker 9: listened to it to quite a few songs, and you
Speaker 9: know they're not They're not simple. Uh yeah, I feel
Speaker 9: like I feel like you're almost like you as as
Speaker 9: the protagonist in the songs. You're you're working through some things.
Speaker 9: Maybe I don't know. I mean, I mean it's deep stuff.
Speaker 9: Tell me about kind of your point of view in
Speaker 9: terms of your lyrics. Obviously different songs, different different backstories.
Speaker 9: But but I'm very curious about that.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think this whole album. So the album
Speaker 5: is called flat Lander, and I took it from sort of,
Speaker 5: you know, the regional New England thing of just referring
Speaker 5: to people from I guess flatter parts in the country. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but I thought it was kind of funny. But I
Speaker 5: also sort of after living in New Orleans for four years,
Speaker 5: I kind of realized, like I've become a Flatlander. And
Speaker 5: I just think that the process of moving down there,
Speaker 5: and just like, honestly, these last four to five years of.
Speaker 10: My life.
Speaker 5: Changed me a lot in a lot of really positive ways.
Speaker 5: But the road there was often quite difficult, and I
Speaker 5: struggled as a lot of kind of tendencies towards like
Speaker 5: self isolation and just low mood and a lot of
Speaker 5: issues like that, nothing too crazy, but just generally feeling
Speaker 5: pretty like discontented with my life despite things being overall
Speaker 5: pretty all right. And so I think that's a lot
Speaker 5: of what these songs are about. The one you just heard,
Speaker 5: Stockholm Syndrome is specifically about just feeling stuck. So I'm
Speaker 5: from Chesterfield, New Hampshire, which is I think it has
Speaker 5: three thousand residents.
Speaker 9: Oh wow, the town.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not even like classified as a town. I
Speaker 5: think it's classified as a village. It's a great place
Speaker 5: and the people who live here are wonderful, but you know,
Speaker 5: it's mostly an older generation, and when you're young, it
Speaker 5: can feel very much like, oh, there's nothing to do.
Speaker 5: And I also a lot of my schooling and education
Speaker 5: kind of felt pretty restrictive at times, especially throughout high school.
Speaker 5: And I also just I think I was one of
Speaker 5: those people that because I had parents who pushed me
Speaker 5: in good ways, but I was like pretty academically decent,
Speaker 5: not to toot my own horn too much. But during
Speaker 5: high school and so I think the pressure of always
Speaker 5: trying to exceed myself and that eventually started getting to me,
Speaker 5: and I started getting migraines and and this thing where
Speaker 5: I break out in hives. I think some of it
Speaker 5: might have been like the hormonal you know stage where
Speaker 5: I was I was growing up. But long story short,
Speaker 5: I was I was dealing with all of that, and
Speaker 5: I was dealing with a lot of anxiety and these feelings.
Speaker 5: And I think going to college, especially in the Deep South,
Speaker 5: where well especially New Orleans. I can really only speak
Speaker 5: to New Orleans, but where there's just there's like a
Speaker 5: there's a different pace of life, partially because the heat
Speaker 5: slows everyone down, like you just can't you can't go
Speaker 5: do a million things. And I also think they've been
Speaker 5: through so much tragedy and upheaval that there's there is
Speaker 5: a sense of like people trying to lift each other up.
Speaker 5: And so I think going down there, I kind of
Speaker 5: like took a took a breather, and it gave me
Speaker 5: some perspective to look at a lot of these things.
Speaker 5: So I think that's what, in a nutshell a lot
Speaker 5: of the songs are about.
Speaker 9: But yeah, yeah, I mean I can relate to the
Speaker 9: part about too. You were saying, I'm I'm someone who
Speaker 9: you know, I deal with depression and and this this
Speaker 9: is no no secret to people who were longtime listeners
Speaker 9: of the show. I'm pretty open about it. But but
Speaker 9: I know something you said that resonated with me is,
Speaker 9: you know, when it seems like life is going pretty
Speaker 9: much okay, but you just don't feel right, you know.
Speaker 9: And I can relate to that, and I think a
Speaker 9: lot of people can relate to that and connect with it,
Speaker 9: you know, and you're you're not even sure why you're feeling,
Speaker 9: why you're feeling the way you are, You just are
Speaker 9: and yeah, and it's hard to and it's hard to identify.
Speaker 9: And and people who don't experience anything like that, they
Speaker 9: can't relate to it. So it's hard to explain to
Speaker 9: people sometimes too why you feel that way if they're
Speaker 9: if they're looking from the outside and saying, well, you know,
Speaker 9: it looks looks to me like everything's pretty good and
Speaker 9: and you're kind of feeling like, yeah, everything is pretty good,
Speaker 9: and yet I don't feel.
Speaker 5: Good right totally? Yeah, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 9: That's a that's a common thing. How So, so how
Speaker 9: are you? How are you today? I mean you sound
Speaker 9: upbeat and positive. I mean, are are things better or
Speaker 9: are things I mean you just go yeah, in college,
Speaker 9: so you're still adjusting in some ways. But that must
Speaker 9: be a relief though, too, I would guess.
Speaker 5: Oh for sure. I mean yeah, and honestly, I had
Speaker 5: a great college experience, but it was it's definitely a
Speaker 5: relief to be to be done. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: You're never gonna have to write a ten page paper again.
Speaker 7: But no.
Speaker 5: But in all seriousness, uh, I think I'm you know,
Speaker 5: I'm readjusting being back up here and and just you know,
Speaker 5: a big change my life. But aside from that, I'm
Speaker 5: doing pretty well actually, which is which is good. And yeah,
Speaker 5: I've I've kind of stayed in touch with a lot
Speaker 5: of my friends up here, so it's been nice to
Speaker 5: kind of reconnect to the community and kinda yeah, just
Speaker 5: be doing all this music stuff feels pretty great too.
Speaker 5: So I'm yeah, no, I'm in a pretty good place now.
Speaker 5: And I think for me, that's when I play these
Speaker 5: songs live, especially, it feels very I don't know, it
Speaker 5: feels kind of cathartic and triumphant at the same time,
Speaker 5: like not like all my problems are gone, but I've
Speaker 5: kind of I've moved beyond that period of my life
Speaker 5: and I kind of feel like I can look back
Speaker 5: at those moments from with a different perspective.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, well something that comes up on
Speaker 9: the show. This comes up constantly on the show. In fact,
Speaker 9: it would seem is, you know, the the idea of
Speaker 9: creating art and using that as a way to work
Speaker 9: through whatever it is it's bothering you. And because you
Speaker 9: know it's it's a great form of therapy in a sense, right,
Speaker 9: because you're creating something. You're taking something negative, you know,
Speaker 9: whether it's anxiety or whatever it is, and a trauma
Speaker 9: that you're dealing with and creating art from that. You know,
Speaker 9: I mean what could be better than that? Right, taking
Speaker 9: that that negativity and darkness and creating something that not
Speaker 9: only is cathartic for you, but other people can relate
Speaker 9: to and get something from it too. So you're also
Speaker 9: sort of passively helping others at the same time while
Speaker 9: you're actively helping yourself by creating this art. And uh
Speaker 9: so I think that's great and I'm glad you're feeling better.
Speaker 9: What what's kind of your do you have? Do you
Speaker 9: have kind of mapped out in your idea a trajectory
Speaker 9: for where you want to take things? Uh, going into
Speaker 9: the future in terms of your career, I mean, obviously
Speaker 9: the album, the album flat Lander is pretty new, so
Speaker 9: I assume you're largely focused on promoting that. But do
Speaker 9: you have some kind of long term goals or are
Speaker 9: you just kind of figuring things out or.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I think I definitely wanna, yeah, keep
Speaker 5: promoting this album, and really my goals is to get
Speaker 5: in front of as many people as I can. I
Speaker 5: think that, you know, long term, I'd love for this
Speaker 5: to be, you know, my full time career, and I'm
Speaker 5: kind of willing to put in the grind to do that.
Speaker 5: So for me right now, it's just a lot of
Speaker 5: it is just playing wherever will have me, you know,
Speaker 5: playing as many shows I can, and kind of keep
Speaker 5: promoting things on social media. And uh, really, I i'd
Speaker 5: you know, I'd like to get to a point where
Speaker 5: I can start, you know, kind of opening for for
Speaker 5: other people and and and I want to personally, I mean,
Speaker 5: for immediate future next steps, I'd love to just get
Speaker 5: more connected to the musical community around here and you know,
Speaker 5: link up with some other bands and artists you know,
Speaker 5: outside my sort of immediate bubble. But yeah, I mean, ultimately,
Speaker 5: long term, I'd really love to make this my full
Speaker 5: time career. So a lot of that is just uh yeah,
Speaker 5: I guess just grinding it out for lack of a
Speaker 5: better term.
Speaker 9: Is that is that challenging at all? Because geographically you're
Speaker 9: in uh you know, you're not exactly in a booming metropolis,
Speaker 9: right No, And and.
Speaker 5: It may you know, necessitate at some point in the
Speaker 5: future a move move to somewhere like that. But I think, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, I actually feel like the southern New Hampshire
Speaker 5: sort of western mass like this general area music scene.
Speaker 5: I don't know, there's, at least for me, a lot
Speaker 5: of my one of my favorite artists have swung by
Speaker 5: here sometimes even fifteen minutes. Next week I'm gonna go
Speaker 5: see John Morland and Braderborough. And I just was at
Speaker 5: the Green River Music Festival and saw Wax Hatchie and
Speaker 5: m J. Lenderman there, which is great. So I don't know,
Speaker 5: I think that there's a cool kind of music scene.
Speaker 5: But obviously I think if I really want to make
Speaker 5: this at some point in the future full time thing,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to tour extensively, So that'll that'll definitely
Speaker 5: be part and that's a big part of like next steps.
Speaker 5: I have a friend my friends is she's also a
Speaker 5: singer songwriter and she lives in Atlanta. So we're gonna,
Speaker 5: I think, at some point in the future we want
Speaker 5: to do kind of like a up the East Coast
Speaker 5: sort of tour and get that under our legs and
Speaker 5: then see see how things go. So but yeah, I'm
Speaker 5: kind of still figuring it out from being honest, but sure,
Speaker 5: but yeah, that's sort of the trajectory thus far.
Speaker 9: Excellent, excellent, Well, I think you're off to a great start.
Speaker 9: And congratulations on the release of Flatlander. I assume it's
Speaker 9: on all the streaming platforms and everything.
Speaker 5: Yes, out everywhere. And I've got two music videos and
Speaker 5: a lyric video on my YouTube channel for that. So
Speaker 5: one of my songs, am I A, got fifty five
Speaker 5: views and five k likes, so that was pretty awesome,
Speaker 5: that is yeah, and it also got my so my
Speaker 5: friend Peam we went to high school together and Peem's
Speaker 5: an incredible filmmaker and so he helped me with both
Speaker 5: these music videos we did, and we submitted M I
Speaker 5: A to a bunch of film festivals and we got
Speaker 5: we just got screened in one in Pennsylvania. The and
Speaker 5: then then film fests. So that was really cool. Oh
Speaker 5: so I'm just really stoked at the response that I've
Speaker 5: gotten thus far. I've got some press pieces out as well,
Speaker 5: and yeah, so that's that's been pretty great.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can check it out, check it out wherever
Speaker 5: on all the all the platforms.
Speaker 9: Yeah, excellent, by the way, and I congratulations, it sounds
Speaker 9: like M I A Is doing really well. That's fantastic.
Speaker 9: I will tell you something kind of funny. I wanted
Speaker 9: to play that one because I really like that song. Yeah,
Speaker 9: but the only really there's right at the end, there's
Speaker 9: a there's a word that I would have to Now.
Speaker 9: I do make radio edits sometimes if I really want
Speaker 9: to play something, if the artist doesn't have a radio
Speaker 9: edit available, I'll just make one. And I wanted to
Speaker 9: do it for that song, and I almost did, but
Speaker 9: then I was like, geez, you know what I feel like,
Speaker 9: in this particular instance, if I do that, it kind
Speaker 9: of recks the song in a way, even though the
Speaker 9: word appears at the very end of the song, but
Speaker 9: it's kind of it kind of puts a stamp on
Speaker 9: the song lyrically, and it's like, if I take it,
Speaker 9: because you know what I do is. I call it
Speaker 9: the poor Man's radio edit. I just reverse it wherever
Speaker 9: the swear is just so. But I was like, but
Speaker 9: I was like, if I do that to that song,
Speaker 9: I don't know, I think it kind of I don't
Speaker 9: want to. I don't want to inadvertently tamper with your
Speaker 9: art and wreck the song, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I know, I appreciate that. I mean, I think I'd
Speaker 5: thought about submitting that one, and then I remember the
Speaker 5: radio edit and I had a similar feeling of like,
Speaker 5: I think it would take out a little bit of
Speaker 5: the punch and the story of the song.
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: But but people can you know, check that out on
Speaker 5: their own if they're interested.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that one. Yeah, I encourage people to do that.
Speaker 9: But I also I do really like this track Shaine
Speaker 9: in Line that we're gonna play in a moment. Can
Speaker 9: you tell us anything about the lyrics to this? I
Speaker 9: feel like there's a message here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, there's a there's a very concrete story as well,
Speaker 5: because so I was I can't remember which year of college,
Speaker 5: but I was back in the area and my friend
Speaker 5: I will name names because they wish to be an autos.
Speaker 5: Even though the names get named in the song but whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but they they were throwing this New Year's party and
Speaker 5: I'm not a huge I've never been a huge like
Speaker 5: partyer or drinker personally, but yeah, I've just never really
Speaker 5: appealed to me. And I think I have a bit
Speaker 5: of There's some alcoholism on both sides of my family,
Speaker 5: so I should be a little aware of that. Not
Speaker 5: not my folks, but just extended family. So sometimes I
Speaker 5: wonder about anyways, that's a bit of a there is there.
Speaker 9: Is research for the shows as a genetic component to that,
Speaker 9: and that is good to be aware of.
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, So I you know, I think for
Speaker 5: that reason, I've I've I'm a little bit more moderate
Speaker 5: with it. But I ended up going to my friend's
Speaker 5: party and we were we all sort of were hanging
Speaker 5: out and his older brother there. They had made this
Speaker 5: big bonfire. Alter brother was like in a forklift and
Speaker 5: just like shoving loads of hay onto the fire. It
Speaker 5: was just like this very chaotic kind of goofy ridiculous,
Speaker 5: Like we there was a bottle in the fire and
Speaker 5: we were just watching it melt and we were like
Speaker 5: joking that that's what you do in New Hampshire is like,
Speaker 5: this is the only fun thing to do. So it was,
Speaker 5: it was, it was, you know, it was just a
Speaker 5: goofy time. But on a deeper level, I think that
Speaker 5: song is about kind of you know, when you travel
Speaker 5: and when when you know you grow up, you become
Speaker 5: a different person. And I think for me going to
Speaker 5: New Orleans and and kind of I gained a lot
Speaker 5: more confidence and I thought about things differently and kind
Speaker 5: of got out of my bubble. And I think coming
Speaker 5: back and being with friends, you kind of can have
Speaker 5: a different relationship with them than you did previously. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And I think for me in the long term that's
Speaker 5: been awesome. And we've actually had a lot of these
Speaker 5: friends that I've stuck with, like have We've had a
Speaker 5: deeper connection than we had previous. But I think that
Speaker 5: initially it can be a little one jarring, you know,
Speaker 5: or like feeling like everyone else's lives are moving on
Speaker 5: without you. And so that's kind of the kind of
Speaker 5: duality that I was trying to put into words for
Speaker 5: that one.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that that makes that makes a lot of sense
Speaker 9: to me. I think, uh, yeah, because I really connected
Speaker 9: to this one when I looked and you know, and
Speaker 9: I read the lyrics to on band camp and really, yeah,
Speaker 9: this one, this one really connects with me in that way.
Speaker 9: So I totally get what you're saying.
Speaker 13: So we will.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we're gonna play that in a moment to finish up.
Speaker 9: But Lyle, where's the best place to go online for
Speaker 9: people who want to keep up with everything that you're doing? Uh,
Speaker 9: you know, follow your your career as you as you
Speaker 9: go forward. Maybe you've got shows coming up?
Speaker 4: Do you have anything?
Speaker 9: Are you playing anywhere this weekend? By the way, that
Speaker 9: you want to plug too?
Speaker 5: Yes, I thank you for that. I I yes, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna be playing in Nashua at Terminus Underground, which is
Speaker 5: one thirty four Hayin Street and there's a fifteen dollars.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be myself, Jesse Rudstein, conceptcor and Joshua Nobody,
Speaker 5: as well as a bunch of art vendors excellent, and
Speaker 5: I believe depending on whether if it rains, it's still
Speaker 5: gonna happen. It's just gonna be inside the venue. But
Speaker 5: if it's a nice day out, we're gonna have it
Speaker 5: out in the lot and it will be a cool
Speaker 5: little art fair. I'm gonna be performing from two to three,
Speaker 5: but you should show up for the whole event which
Speaker 5: is from one to six tomorrow. So very good. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's my most recent show and super stoked. And the
Speaker 5: folks over there connected me with y'allso oh yeah, super
Speaker 5: happy about that. And there they seem like a really
Speaker 5: great venue and just awesome people.
Speaker 9: So oh absolutely, no, we love that'll be a great one.
Speaker 9: We love Terminus. Eleanor and Andre are amazing. And have
Speaker 9: you actually physically been there yet?
Speaker 5: No, I'm really excited to check it out. I have not.
Speaker 9: I tell everyone the same thing. When the first time
Speaker 9: you walk into that room, it's like happened into another world.
Speaker 6: It's so cool.
Speaker 5: When you've seen the pictures, it looks really cool.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it is, it is, it's it's it's awesome. So
Speaker 9: you'll you'll have a great time there. And uh, where
Speaker 9: where should people? Where should people go online to keep
Speaker 9: up with everything?
Speaker 5: Yeah? So the best place is my website, which is
Speaker 5: just lyle Hutchins dot com. That's L Y L E
Speaker 5: h U T C h I N S dot com.
Speaker 5: And then you can also check out my social media.
Speaker 5: I'm on all, I'm on TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, all
Speaker 5: that stuff, and that's all Lyle Hutchins music. Okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: those those are the best, so anywhere you like. I
Speaker 5: also have a mailing list on my website, so if
Speaker 5: anybody wants more regular updates for me, that's where you
Speaker 5: can find that. And I think that's about it for
Speaker 5: where people can find me.
Speaker 9: Sure sure outstanding, outstanding. So we're gonna hit this track.
Speaker 9: We're gonna play this station stand in line. This is
Speaker 9: from the new album from Lyle Hutchins. And this is
Speaker 9: your debut album, correct, yes, the first full length ya,
Speaker 9: so this is this is really good. So the new
Speaker 9: album flat Lander from Lyle Hutchins. And we're gonna play
Speaker 9: this and we'll let you go. Lyle, thank you so
Speaker 9: much for joining us today. We'll definitely do this again
Speaker 9: in the future as you're releasing new music and we
Speaker 9: want to keep up with everything that you're doing. So
Speaker 9: we really appreciate this and have a great show at Terminus.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you so much. Really great to be on
Speaker 5: here and really appreciate you guys having me, so thanks again.
Speaker 9: You got it all right, Thanks Lyle, take care good
Speaker 9: one by all right, that is the great Lyle Hutchins,
Speaker 9: and we're going to close out the segment with this track.
Speaker 9: And by the way, if you are listening live on Saturday,
Speaker 9: is our our next guest in the building bags Balance
Speaker 9: in the building coming up in the third hour. But
Speaker 9: right now this is staying in Line. This is by
Speaker 9: the great Lyle Hutchins from the new album flat Lander.
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