Matt Connarton Unleashed 8-23-25 hour 1

0:03 Speaker 1: You're listening to macconnorton Unleashed on wm n H ninety five point three and now the world radio premiere of the new single from Jersey Calling. This is called working Class Punk.

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3:47 Speaker 1: Oh I love it. That is so good. That is working class Punk. That is the band Jersey Calling. They were on the show a couple months ago. A great band from Philadelphia, and that track is coming out on Labor Day appropriately enough. But you heard it here first the world radio premiere of the new track from Jersey Calling that is called working Class Punk. And we're going to get them on the show at some point in the very near future to talk about it, probably not in person, because they are from Philadelphia.

4:16 Speaker 1: They were able to come in before because they were on tour and we were sort of on the tour routing, so to speak. But we'll get them to call in or join us online, but love that track so again. That is working class punk that is coming out on Labor Day, available everywhere, and that is the world radio premiere of that. And this is Matt Connorton Unleashed. We are live from the studios of wm n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Today is Saturday August twenty third, twenty twenty five and I am not alone.

5:00 Speaker 8: Good morning Sunshine.

5:02 Speaker 1: Jenny is here at the news table. Yes, yes, so we have an exciting show. Of course, in just a couple of minutes we're gonna be talking to Skull or School. I gotta ask how to pronounce the name correctly. I'm not sure it's s k A l As the umlot over the a so great band from the UK. We recently did the American radio premiere of their new single, The Whites, and we're gonna play that again in a couple of minutes, and then we're gonna have I think at least one of the guys joining us via WhatsApp from the band all the way from the UK, and then at the end of our conversation we'll play their first single, which is also really really good so I love this band, so looking forward to that.

5:46 Speaker 1: In the second hour today, our friend Charles Richardson from The Charles Richardson Show, who we have not had on the program in quite some time, but he's going to be joining us all the way from the great state of Florida. And then in the third hour, Linda Avelynde is going to be joining us to talk about her new single. So we have although it's it's an unusual show this week in the sense that we don't have any in studio guests. Everyone is remote, which is which is unusual, not intentional in any way, it just worked out that way.

6:15 Speaker 1: But we also want to make sure that we mentioned so Vice's Fest is coming up and when Vice's Inc. Was on the show the last time, you know, because obviously this is a major festival, so these things are planned way way in advance. But Vice's Fest is happening next weekend August twenty, ninth, thirtieth and thirty first at the Strand Theater in Dover. Jenny and I were invited to go, but the problem is with our schedules with all the you know, with the radio shows and the podcasting, and everything's really hard for us to get away for a whole weekend to go and do this.

6:50 Speaker 1: But but it's a big event. It starts again. This is at the Strand in Dover. It starts Friday, doors open at eleven a m. Saturday doors open at eleven and Sunday doors open at twelve. So it's Friday, Saturday and Sunday Labor Day weekend. It's an all ages event. You can go to Vicesfest dot com. I do want to quickly mention at least some of that. I'll quickly run through who's going to be performing at the show, because a lot of these are guests who we've had on the show here on Matt Connorton on leash.

7:22 Speaker 1: Let's see we've got so Vice's Inc. Of course, Signal to Noise, Sepsis, Troll Scarecrow Hill, Euphemia, Jony, Earthquake Band, Night Fury, Under the Horizon, the Roscoes, Lions and Lavender. That's a cool name.

7:40 Speaker 1: Battle Mode, house Lights, Oh, house Lights has been on the show YEP a while ago. The Shirts and Shoes, Alaska Angels, The Carrot Flowers, Plague Dad. Plague Dad has been on the show, The Living Space Boyd and the Monkeys, Willie DeNardo and the corporates Mango Catch Manuel, Separator. I think that's separator. It's just a different way of spelling it. Silver Cord, Mother, Nimbus, Trading, Tombstones. They've been on the show, Decaying Continuum, Cellar Door, Cryan Caleb of course has been on the show recently.

8:13 Speaker 1: Fine Pioneer Brady's Grown Up Time. That's interesting. The Joe Blander, Shred Trio, Peter Gay, Adam Vitali, Jake Hebert and twenty Vegan. So that is the lineup. If you go to vicesfest dot com you can see the full lineup, learn how to get tickets. And again that is next weekend. That's a this is a big deal. There's a lot of great bands, a lot of these bands that have been on the show. Of course, you know Sepsis. We've got a Swarmyfests coming up soon. Troll they were on recently Scarecrow Hill, Incredible, they've been on the show.

8:47 Speaker 1: We saw them at the show that Under the Horizon was also on recently to a swarm Fast at Jewel and they'll be They were just recently added to Swarmy Fest as well. Yeah, so there's lots of great stuff going on, so I definitely suggest you check out this festival. Like I said, for Jenny and I to get there logistically would be very difficult because it's you know, Friday, Friday. Our Fridays and Saturdays are obviously very full, and then Sundays we you know, we have podcasts to do Sunday as well.

9:12 Speaker 8: So also while we're on the topic of arts and wonder, I wanted to make sure to mention that the Mosaic Art Collective has an open art call right now and the deadline is coming up. It's the end of this end of this coming week on Friday. It's called Full Circle twenty twenty five. Every year they do an annual show, and what they're looking for is, you know, show them

9:36 Speaker 8: what what you're your priest, you're very proud of that you've recently done, or your own take on what full Circle means to you. What is there a moment in time that you've created something about or anything like that. So they're invited. It's an open call. I'm telling you, it's fun to be in it. I've done it myself and I hope to do this one as well. The deadline is coming up this coming Saturday at August August thirtieth, at midnight. That's the deadline. And then the exhibit is in September from the September eighth to the twenty sixth, and the reception is on September thirteenth from four to eight.

10:17 Speaker 8: And it's wonderful to have a piece of yourself hung on a wall in there, and you know, bring your friends and family and just enjoy the gallery itself. It's such an incredible place to be and it's a unique aspect that we have here in Manchester to have such a wonderful gallery right here in the Queen City. So I would highly, highly encourage you to submit your work to that. If that's not your cup of tea, they do have another opening as well, called the Exquisite Corpse, and that's going to run in October.

10:52 Speaker 8: So you can imagine they're looking for, you know, the creepy, celebrating the uncanny, the strange, beautiful, you know that kind of a thing. So if that's more your cup of tea, check it out. Go to the mosaic Arcollective dot com. Submit your work, be a part of it. It is a wonderful place.

11:10 Speaker 1: To show very good, very good. Just briefly too, do you want to mention the Common Dreams Byeline just yeah, just quickly, yes.

11:18 Speaker 8: Very quickly. I am proud to say that I have my first byline in Common Dreams, which is an excellent publication to get published in. It's about some recent events in my life, so I encourage you to go check it out. If you have a hard time finding it, go to Gencoffee dot com, J E. N N C O F f Ey dot com and you can catch a link there in my blog along with other things that I write about.

11:43 Speaker 1: Very good and congratulations on that, Thank you very much. I'm proud. So right now we're going to hit this track, this is the Whites again. We gave this the American radio premiere I think a week or two ago, a great track, and then we're going to have at least one of the guys from the band on the line with us all the way from the UK via WhatsApp. So really looking forward of that. But uh, and then we'll play the other single too at the end of our conversation, because they've got another great song.

12:04 Speaker 1: Their first single is also really good, but this is the newest one. This is called the Whites, the Band of Skull and check this out. I like this quite a bit.

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15:19 Speaker 1: I love that the track is called the Whites, the band is Skull, And let's see who we have on the line with us. Hello, welcome to the show. Hello, Hello, Hey, hey guys, So who do we have?

15:31 Speaker 9: Who do we have on the line so this is and I'm the lead singer.

15:36 Speaker 1: My name is Jack very Good, very good. So we've got Evan and Jack with us, guys. I love that track that is it's catchy. I love the energy of it. It's one of those songs I always say, if it doesn't get you move in check your pulse, you might be dead because it's really really good. So I love you. I love your sound. And by the way, I also really like the first single too, which we're going to play at the end of our conversation today all of the people. That's that's another great song. But I was reading about you, guys, and this is a relatively new project, right if you guys only been around for like a year?

16:10 Speaker 8: Is that correct?

16:12 Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah, the most part really Yeah about February last wet.

16:16 Speaker 1: Okay, oh wow, So this is yeah, So that's that's pretty new. You're already having it looks like you're already having a lot of success. Have you been getting uh have you been getting some airplay with these singles over in the UK?

16:29 Speaker 10: So we recently just had something come through that we got played on Radio X, which is obviously like a big station around here. Quite a few local ones as well, so you play list editions like and obviously yourself are playing it as well.

16:40 Speaker 1: Absolutely with with your music, I mean, do you try to do you try to write things that are are accessible or do you just kind of do what you do and and hope it catches on because it just seems like it seems like these songs are very sort of radio accessible. Shall we say, you know, they've got hooks, they've got you know, they pull you in quick. I mean, is that is that the kind of thing you try to write or does that just sort of happen organically.

17:08 Speaker 11: I'll say, we don't try and we don't sit down to write to Kater for radio. It's just kind of what comes out in the moment. That's fonsaneous singing the practice room when we're writing.

17:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, when we go in to the.

17:20 Speaker 11: Studio work with producer, you know, it gets a bit more like we'll take this bit out and we'll make it a bit more radio friendly. That's when that happens in that stage of the process rather than when we're actually writing a thing.

17:35 Speaker 10: Yeah, the listener as well for some aspects like is that like we like to write catch you up because we enjoy it, But at the same time, it's like, you know, if if if it gets catchy, then that's what you want.

17:45 Speaker 9: But you've got to write from the soul as well, you know what I mean.

17:47 Speaker 1: You've got to be truly honest, right of course. Yeah, that's that's where it starts. Yeah. And then now, so you've got the two singles, is there what's kind of the long term plan? Do you have more singles in the pipeline or do you plan do you plan to release an EP or an album? Uh?

18:02 Speaker 10: What, We've got more songs and sense at the moments, befair mate. So it's like the plane is is, We've got a live session booked in that we're gonna do, which will obviously have multiple tracks on the songs that we've not done like we've not previously done hopefully released of like independently in a slight way that it's not a fullyp but we'll have like a session from there and then we've had a lot of content.

18:22 Speaker 9: You know, video wise, to be able to put out everywhere.

18:24 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. We live in a time when there's so many different ways to approach that in terms of how you release music. I'm old enough to remember when it was you know you you have a single is the Ghost of Radio six eight weeks before the album, and then the album comes out, and then hopefully, if it all goes well, you'll have more singles from the album. But today there's so many different ways to do it, which is which is fantastic. And I was looking too, it looks like all of the People, which is the first single that that did pretty well for you, that's or continues to do well for you on on Spotify, and then I I assume, I mean, I don't know what the numbers are like so far for the whites, but I assume it's already taken off.

19:06 Speaker 9: Yeah, as you have finished. Yeah, it's been a great response. Getting played on sort of national radio was always a great win.

19:13 Speaker 10: It's just about being able to extend out to people who have maybe never heard of us before. So obviously things like this is a big help because you know we're from like an across the water.

19:23 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, absolutely, Now, have you guys been in have you guys both been been in bands before this? I assume you have. It sounds like you've both you know, got some experience at this.

19:33 Speaker 9: Yeah.

19:33 Speaker 11: Well, me and Evan actually bring our first ever bands together back call You Kids. Yeah yeah, there's so many poor renditions of Beatles tracks, so we started from there and we've been doing it for years now.

19:48 Speaker 1: Oh wow. So having started together so young, there's probably kind of almost an intuition right in terms of collaborating in terms of making music. I I would assume that it's very that it's very easy at this point. And another one, Yeah, after all these years.

20:06 Speaker 9: Natural chemistry which like words calm truly explain. It just happens within that moment, which what that's what makes it so special. Same with our drummer Tom as well.

20:14 Speaker 11: I've been playing in bands with Thom since about thirteen fourteen, so we've got that mean him we're playing for that long together.

20:22 Speaker 9: Well we know which, we know it works together, you know what I mean. So it's just it all falls into place really easily.

20:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's great. That's great. Now what about the other guys, because there's there's five of you in the band, correct, it's a five piece? Yeah, five piece? Now, now how did the how did the rest of the band come together? Because I assume the two of you were the nucleus in the beginning right, and then and then you brought in other people or how did the band? How did the band become a band?

20:47 Speaker 10: So the main trio originally was me Emty and some like we went to high school together kind of thing, and then the likes of Darcy and Adams.

20:56 Speaker 9: So Darcy's younger brother Zaki is one of our best mates.

20:58 Speaker 10: He's the same mates does so Ghast and ended up joining and then Adam was in other bands as well, like we'll do both in other bands, and then we kind of just like they collided together for a band called Riverstone, and then after that I then joined the band. It is like a sort of new alias of Skull kind of thing, and then like the rebirth of the sort of the band. So these were going for a good couple of years before and as well with a separate band who were unreal like you know what I mean.

21:22 Speaker 9: It was over the past few years really.

21:26 Speaker 1: But it sounds like this project again because it hasn't been around for too too long, so it sounds like it came together pretty quickly, right once you had all the once you had all the pieces of the puzzle together, it really gelled fast.

21:37 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, we were all friends previously as well.

21:39 Speaker 10: So I think when your friends were somebody and you know, I mean, you can go out for a droop with them and you can go spend time with him, you kind of know them then. So it makes life in the practice room a lot easier at the same time harder when you know what I mean, someone's had a worse day than other.

21:51 Speaker 9: But that's that's the beauty of it, Like, you know what I mean, you have to have that sort of piece. We all are. We're all really cooks made. We are brothers, and I think that same.

22:00 Speaker 11: I think if you could if you saw it was live, it shows outside the band as well. You know, it shows out we were jealous to everyone are playing live because you can spot Botts a mile away when they play. You can sell to just a group of people you meet up in a room every now and then go play a gig.

22:16 Speaker 9: You know, there's no there's no like brotherly chemistry to it, whereas we did.

22:21 Speaker 1: We have that, you know what I mean, Yeah, that makes such a huge difference. I just know from my own experience playing in bands, when you actually have a genuine friendship with the people you're in the band with, it it makes all the difference in the world. You know, you could have you could have great songs and great everything, right, but if you're not, if you're not friends, it's not gonna last, you know. So that's that's really good. And then now I read something too about you guys. Are are you guys doing this independently or are you actually you're because I see something here about Snowdonia Records.

22:52 Speaker 1: Are you signed to a label?

22:54 Speaker 10: Oh so there's a long story on that behind that one that was like a previous thing. We're not working with people like Noisy Neighbors. We believe in Roadhouse. So the Noisy Neighbors and we believe in a few other partners have joined together to create this Roadhouse and it's like they sort of have like sort of around, yeah, a few bands on the roster, like and then you're sort of all around the country. So it's like a new it's a new leaf for us kind of thing and a chance to be able to sort of take over cities like Liverpool, which is like our closest one in Manchester as well.

23:25 Speaker 10: Quite lucky to be Winsford because we are like a sandwich between two of the greatest musical cities this herbs ever had, you know what I mean, And we have like a beautiful combination of the pair of them, and that's sort of predominantly where our sounds come from, you know what I mean.

23:38 Speaker 9: It's it's all very British based sort of.

23:42 Speaker 1: Now when you talk about the two cities. Uh so for for our American listeners, we're we're in Manchester, but we're in Manchester, New Hampshire in the US of course. So when you talk about the two cities, what two cities are you speaking of specifically? If so, everyone's clear.

23:57 Speaker 9: Manchester and Liverpool.

23:59 Speaker 10: Yeah, so we've got like Manchester over here, which is a big northern city. You obviously got bands like Oasis, the Stone Roses, and then Loverpool is obviously the birthplace of the Beatles and many other great bands that the real people as UTAs you know.

24:10 Speaker 9: What I mean. Yeah, that lies yeah, yeah, of our biggest you know what I mean. It's like they are the coolest.

24:16 Speaker 10: There's a cool scene that's always been going around here for many years, and especially within our little town of Winsford. Like we've had we've had a couple of venues where we've had like bands coming through and that's what sort of influenced us from being so young. It is just being introduced to the cool side of music and just the realness of being like true to your craft, being honest about what you say, being like full focused into the music, and just like it's it's it's a feeling that not many people can truly appreciate because they've never grown up.

24:42 Speaker 1: Around it, you know what I mean, right, right, So, geographically, you're in a great place.

24:46 Speaker 9: In terms of yeah, in the heart of the country, you know what I mean.

24:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's fantastic. Yeah, And I mean, is there I don't know if this is a strange question, but I'll ask it. Is there any kind of pressure that comes with that in terms of where you are geographically? Is there like a pressure to be really good? Because you know, there is so much great those those two cities, Like you said this, you know, in terms of the musical output from those those cities. I mean, is there a pressure that comes with that being kind of sandwiched between them, Like you you have to be great in order to in order for people to take you seriously.

25:24 Speaker 1: You can't just be good, You've got to be really, really good.

25:27 Speaker 9: I don't know.

25:28 Speaker 11: I don't think we do you feel any pressure, to be honest, I mean, yeah, likely the bands that we've grown up listening to for our northwest of England. You know, we are inspired by them, but there's a lot.

25:37 Speaker 9: Of good young bands around it.

25:38 Speaker 1: In a minute, the all.

25:39 Speaker 11: Fit Insight scenes and you know, scenes of Liverpool, scenes in Manchester. But we're not concerned anybody else but ourselves if we don't want to be you know, put ourselves into a box of sounds a certain way to fit into a certain scene.

25:51 Speaker 9: We just want to do our thing. And that's all we're bothered about.

25:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that makes sense. I think that's a healthy way to approach it, right, just you know, don't you know, rather than worrying about what everyone else is doing, worry about what you're doing and doing it the best that you can. And obviously you guys are off to a fantastic start, so you're you've clearly got the right attitude and the right approach. I'm curious about what you guys have learned you you probably, I mean, you can tell the story if you want to. I'd love to hear it, but I don't know if you want to get into that.

26:18 Speaker 1: But but you mentioned there's there's a bit of a story with your previous label. But I'll ask the question this way, just more broadly, what have you guys in the short time that you guys have been together as a band? What have you learned? Uh, business wise, industry wise, and and maybe even have there been some surprises along the way, because it sounds like you've already been through some things and now you're on a very positive path. But it sounds like you you might have hit a speed bumper two.

26:42 Speaker 1: I don't know if they call them speed bumps in the UK, but oh.

26:46 Speaker 9: There's always speed bumps in the road.

26:47 Speaker 10: There's always pop ways that you can lead down in the Yeah, promise and did like at the end of the day, like when we did it things that worked well.

26:56 Speaker 9: It was just a.

26:57 Speaker 10: Differences of like of models and understandings and things, and like, you have to stay true to your word and stay true to what you believe in when you do stuff like this.

27:05 Speaker 9: So if you're mixing with people who don't.

27:07 Speaker 10: Quite have that same thing, and then you witness people for like kind of who they truly are at times, and I think I think.

27:14 Speaker 11: A lot of our speed bunch has come down to a lack of knowledge of the industry, m being behind in the years in that regard, not in regard to music, but in regard to the industry. But we've got a good team working behind us now and it's looking pretty good for the future.

27:29 Speaker 9: But I think next year is going to be a good year for us.

27:31 Speaker 10: And there's a lot of people in the pipelines as well and on the underground of an underlayer like people within the industry and very respective people within the industry who have like obviously like close to us.

27:41 Speaker 9: You will also give us a help and add along the way.

27:43 Speaker 10: I mean you can advise you and tell you how it truly is from an aspect where we may not understand, but from a viewpoint of people who are probably working class like us growing up and then had to deal with this sort of big industry where there's a lot of money and there's a lot.

27:57 Speaker 9: Of pressure and a lot of power.

27:59 Speaker 10: But we don't feel no pressure currently, like so it's one of them you just have to wing getting to see how you get unbuilgain.

28:05 Speaker 1: No, that's great. I think you've got the right the right approach and and it's so important too to have a good team around you and to have people that you can trust, because yeah, you know, there's a lot of uh you know, there's there's there's a lot of people in the industry who maybe are not trustworthy. Of course it's the entertainment industry. There's also some people who you know, maybe they mean well, uh but they don't maybe quite quite have you know, as you said, the knowledge to be really helpful and to and to support you.

28:35 Speaker 1: And uh so it sounds like, yeah, it sounds like you've got a great team and it sounds like too, so there's it sounds like there's also other bands that you I mean, do you play out Are there certain bands that you guys share the stage with a lot or or what what is the live situation there?

28:49 Speaker 9: Are you?

28:49 Speaker 1: Are you playing a lot of shows? If you've been doing festivals this summer, like what's what's the touring situation over there?

28:55 Speaker 10: So it's been still early days, like we've got a few obviously at the least party for the second and single, like we did the Whites and that was a good night. We had like qualms and our Matland support and we have a regular sort of Scottish band that we play with called ocean Views a bunch. It's like we met them playing a festival on like the island Butte, which is like a little Scottish island a few years ago.

29:15 Speaker 9: Yeah, then we do it.

29:17 Speaker 10: We do like a so we run like a venue up in where we're from, in Winston called the Dellamete Dog, And then we do like a thing called Stalloween, which is like a big Halloween party.

29:26 Speaker 9: We do a big gig. Obviously everyone dresses up in like that.

29:29 Speaker 10: Like ocean Views are like a traditional character and an integral part of that with us, you know what I mean.

29:35 Speaker 1: Oh, that's very cool, And that's so important to getting to play festivals because uh, not only does it give you an opportunity to be in front of an audience who might not some of who might not be aware of you, but also the networking opportunities and you know involved in those types of situations are unparalleled. You know, you'll you'll never get a better chance than when you're at a festival to really meet a lot of people, meet other bands, meet other people in the industry. That's great.

30:00 Speaker 9: Well, networking is just.

30:01 Speaker 11: As important as the music and talking to people and getting people on board of what you're doing, and you know, creating a buzz around yourself speaking to people at gigs and just generally being friendly and talking to people and checking out their bands rather than being like arrogant and thinking, yeah, we're rock and roll man, we don't need to speak to people and try all.

30:24 Speaker 9: You know, it's that way.

30:27 Speaker 11: I think that works against you a lot of the time these days. So it's good to you know, show your face and speak to people, like saying networking.

30:33 Speaker 9: And just be real, you know what I mean.

30:35 Speaker 10: Like we do it because we love it, you know what I mean. You see you can you can you can sell a black artist from a mile away. You can tell a fake, you know what I mean. It's like if you do it, you do it because you love it and you want to be able to do it and you want to have that passion. And then when you meet like minded people like that, then that natural connection and chemistry just works, you know what I mean.

30:52 Speaker 9: That's what it's about, those natural connection. That's what music is.

30:54 Speaker 11: It speaks for the soul, doesn't it. You know, it's a universal language. Music is when you find up then, you know, isn't it?

31:02 Speaker 1: Yeah? One hundred absolutely. Hey, by the way, what's the correct way to pronounce your name? Is it?

31:08 Speaker 9: Is?

31:08 Speaker 6: It?

31:09 Speaker 1: Is it skull? I was saying skull? Is that correct?

31:11 Speaker 12: Or?

31:11 Speaker 1: Am I off a little bit?

31:13 Speaker 8: So?

31:13 Speaker 10: I think I think with the American accent, maybe skull, but we say scalped. So it's like it's like, so there's a lingo like which is if you were a scaley. I'm trying to think of what the counterpoint would be for that. But at the same time, it's Swedish for reason, cause and motive.

31:30 Speaker 9: That's what the music, that's why we do it music.

31:35 Speaker 1: Oh I like that, That's that's cool. Okay. So so technically okay, so I am off a little bit. So scal is that closer?

31:42 Speaker 7: Yeah?

31:43 Speaker 9: Yeah, kill you know what I mean?

31:46 Speaker 10: But we can't we can't say that if we have to drop the two dots, but we will put it's.

31:50 Speaker 1: Scalp, yeah, scal Okay, Okay, good, I'm glad I asked. I wasn't. I wasn't one hundred percent sure. Do you ever see it? Do people ever get a like on on poster? Is there anything do they do they leave out? Because uh, because of the way the A is do people ever mess that up?

32:08 Speaker 10: Okay, well we're not too fuss like you know what I mean, Like it's yeah, it's one of them. If anything, the correct way to spell the way we say it would be about it. But when you do some fonts and you have them two dots at the top, it looks pretty fun.

32:22 Speaker 11: Yeah, if you don't know us and they don't know to save the name properly after we've watched us live, definitely all are.

32:28 Speaker 1: Outstanding. Outstanding. Well, now, so what's next for you guys? So, uh, you know, you've got the two singles out. What's what's the next thing that we should be looking for from you?

32:38 Speaker 9: Thank you?

32:39 Speaker 11: We've got this live studio, sess something that we're going to be doing. Okay, this year hopefully we get back in the studio, get another single in the pipeline. But at the moment, it's preparing for next year. Hopefully it's going to be a really good year for us.

32:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, outstanding. No, we look forward to uh, we look forward to keeping track of everything that you do. Which, by the way, my other question about that, where is the best place for people to go online to keep up with everything that you guys are doing?

33:06 Speaker 9: Instagram's always good. We need to get to the modern world and develop a TikTok you know what I mean.

33:11 Speaker 10: We've got an account too much any streaming services, but the best one for now once we do this live session was make sure to keep an eye out on SoundCloud. Okay, the sound place, the really true underground sort of music, like you know what I mean. I've seen the recently did something where they're like helping to make certain artists to release records and singles and stuff.

33:31 Speaker 9: So they're doing something that's helping out with the industry.

33:34 Speaker 10: And yeah, there'll certainly be a few bits and bobs on there, but the Instagram, TikTok and the SoundCloud, and obviously you know what I mean, you can Spotify.

33:41 Speaker 1: Spot Yeah, outstanding, outstanding, Well, Evan and Jack. I want to thank both of you so much for joining us today. And in a moment, we're going to play this track All of the People, which is the first single. Anything we should know about this track, this is another really great song, and anything we should know about it or what it's about.

33:58 Speaker 10: Or anything, well, we know both of these songs at the same time about sixty seventeen, and they were all just kind of about you the age where you're.

34:06 Speaker 9: Sort of like so in swear about You Manchester, New.

34:08 Speaker 1: Hampshire, Manchester, New Hampshire.

34:11 Speaker 9: Yeah, so is is it's kind of it's legal over there.

34:16 Speaker 1: What say that again?

34:18 Speaker 9: Is the is like the album Mary Jane legal over there?

34:21 Speaker 1: Oh oh well, oh well, well okay, interesting interesting, uh interesting question because so, uh no, in in the state of New Hampshire. Now we're surrounded by places where it's legal, all the surrounding states and Canada, which borders us to our north, it is legal in New Hampshire. We have decrem decriminalization. So uh oh yeah, so we have that. It's sort of like a like a light legalization in a sense. We have medical it's.

34:49 Speaker 9: Very frowned upon. But yeah, for a period it was just a pound of like writing songs.

34:53 Speaker 10: Well when you were just sort of like looking around at people who just sort of maybe seem like didn't want you're there.

34:57 Speaker 9: You felt like you were.

34:58 Speaker 10: Sort of like trying to understand like of the roughness of life and the underground thing that obviously can be taboo to a lot of people, you know what I mean, Sure, but right and making sense of it before we truly understood it if you get what I mean.

35:11 Speaker 12: I do.

35:11 Speaker 1: I do. And by the way, uh, most according Topoling, most Americans seem to think that it should be fully legal here. Uh, we just happen to live in a state that's a little behind on that, one of the few.

35:23 Speaker 8: That's a little behind on it. Because the majority of the country is already there.

35:27 Speaker 1: That's true, a majority of the country is already there.

35:29 Speaker 10: So but yeah, those people out it doesn't make you like alcoholsh rouse you up.

35:35 Speaker 1: Oh yeah alcohol alcohol.

35:38 Speaker 8: State makes so much money off of alcohol.

35:41 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that they love.

35:45 Speaker 8: It's totally twisted.

35:46 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we have state liquor stores and the whole deal. So yeah, yeah, it's it's it's uh, there's a lot of there's a lot of things over here that are a little uh out of whack. But uh anyway, well guys again, Evan and Jack, thank you both so much. We're gonna hit this track and we'll let you go for now, but we will, uh, we'll definitely talk again in the near future because we want to. We're fans and we want to keep track of everything that you're doing. So we appreciate you joining us today.

36:10 Speaker 9: You for giving us.

36:12 Speaker 1: Appreciate it absolutely. Okay, thanks guys, take care.

36:16 Speaker 9: I listen to them all right.

36:19 Speaker 1: That was listen to the day I do too. Yeah. So that's Jack and Evan from the band scal. I was pronouncing it a little bit off, but we're gonna hit this track. This is called all of the People. This is uh, this is such a great song. Later in the show we'll probably play the Whites again to the newest single, but give this a spin. This is really good. All of the People. The band is scal.

37:01 Speaker 5: Only to how I do go An say suits shot speak shot. We'll go in boy to where we go.

37:21 Speaker 6: Bout me all season.

37:26 Speaker 8: Shot shoes.

37:27 Speaker 5: What you all as.

37:41 Speaker 6: Sign?

37:43 Speaker 5: My body is that?

37:45 Speaker 9: I said?

37:45 Speaker 5: Where sis the most always she's just lie?

37:54 Speaker 3: What's a game is before?

38:04 Speaker 5: Boss? What's you dont wants your brand?

38:23 Speaker 6: Mane soller pepall.

38:30 Speaker 5: See n s that Sali brand.

38:36 Speaker 9: Say go the wind.

38:42 Speaker 5: It's trolling its start times.

39:01 Speaker 6: I want to be born as you all you want nothing to do bad. I don't want to be like you. I recognize able from the persons.

39:31 Speaker 3: Should have known better.

39:34 Speaker 6: She's sounded for a while now, probably trying thought. I I don't want to make your sound, don't really shall

39:48 Speaker 6: your way chill had a long? Guy had a long?

39:56 Speaker 5: Guy?

40:00 Speaker 6: Oh Blady.

40:03 Speaker 5: That ain't long?

40:04 Speaker 6: God? How love can say? I ain't hit the reset, but I don't want to start. John that ain't no?

40:18 Speaker 3: Please like child, Please start like you was liked?

40:22 Speaker 6: Who wasn't what you want said? Don't like John is so we can't waste a minute.

40:29 Speaker 1: We want to waste some minutes Jays some.

40:32 Speaker 6: Man, don't wait, Joe, that ain't long, Guy that ain't long?

40:45 Speaker 6: My body art that ain't long?

40:50 Speaker 8: Guy that ain't.

41:02 Speaker 3: H I've got that sick Jim feeling what out of used to ealing?

41:12 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do.

41:15 Speaker 6: I still love be sup you.

41:18 Speaker 12: I got that sick jet figuring out right now?

41:21 Speaker 3: Antways, I don't know what sometime sell.

41:52 Speaker 6: No way, that ain't long Guy that long? God sat jem.

42:18 Speaker 9: Always to.

42:23 Speaker 1: Sell love that track so much that is called Piece of View. The band is Rivia, and you're gonna be hearing a lot more of them in the United States. Uh we are the This is the first American radio station and the first American radio show to play that song. But you're gonna be hearing it on radio stations across the country very soon, so uh, trust me on that. But a great, great track. I love that so much. Another great band from the UK. And of course before that we heard all of the people from skal And after our conversation with a couple of the guys from the band, Evan and Jack, and really enjoyed that a lot.

43:05 Speaker 1: And we'll probably play their newest single too again later in the show, So if you're listening live on Saturday morning, stick around. Also coming up in the second hour today, we have Charles Richardson from The Charles Richardson Show. And in the third hour Linda Avelinda and her new single and we're going to talk to her. Looking forward to that right now though, So let's see a little bit of music news here. This is from from NME dot com. Prince's estate responds to Apollonia's quote frivolous lawsuit.

43:36 Speaker 1: This I remember when when this first broke, this, this news about Apollonia Cato getting into a bit of a conflict there with about Paisley Park, the recording studio that Prince had on his estate. And you know, I've been a fan of so coincidentally, I won't I can't say who this individual is or how I know them. But Jenny, I think you'll know who I'm talking about. Yesterday I spent time with someone who he was wearing a shirt of Prince when Dove's Cry, yep, And I always compliment to mind whenever he wears that shirt.

44:10 Speaker 1: But but yeah, because when Doves Cry, when that was a big hit when when we were kids, and I would play that song over and over and over, and you know, huge, huge Prince fan. And I've seen Purple Rain. I don't know how many times because you know, it would be on HBO all the time and I would just watch it over and over and over. By the way, Pauly C from Retrospect Radio with poly C has never seen Purple Rain. Can you believe that?

44:34 Speaker 9: Says that?

44:34 Speaker 1: But he never watched I know he's never seen that. He's never seen this as spinal tap, he's missing out. But so this is the story from Enemy dot Com. Princess of State has responded to singer songwriter Apollonia's lawsuit, dismissing it as frivolous and unwarranted. The US artist, actor, and former model a real name Patricia Apollonia Catero, starred in Prince's classic nineteen eighty four film Purple Rain, portraying love interest who has the name Apollonia. She recently filed a fourteen page complaint against the late icons of state Paisley Park Enterprises in a Los Angeles federal court, accusing it of attempting to steal her name.

45:14 Speaker 1: Kataro claims in the suit that after appearing in Purple Reign, Prince never asked her to stop going by the name Apollonia and did not quote contend that the name did not belong to her, either personally or professionally unquote. She alleges it was on the contrary, and that quote Prince himself consented and encouraged Apollonia in her professional endeavors unquote. Under that name, Kataro has now used the name for over four decades and released numerous projects using the alias. Her legal team claims that Prince's estate was out of line when it tried to claim ownership of the Apollonia trademark in June.

45:53 Speaker 1: She alleges that the estate filed an intent to use application that would allow it to use the name in connection with clothing and entered atainment services. Kato also claims that Paisley Park Enterprises has made moves to try and cancel her trademark applications and registrations despite her being the rightful owner now the estate, by the way, this is a This is a different thing than what I the conflict I was referring to earlier, because prior to all of this, Apollonia was complaining about something else related to this organization and the Paisley Park recording studio.

46:25 Speaker 1: But apparently that's a completely separate thing. So I don't know whatever happened with that. I guess nothing, but this is this is interesting. So now the estate has responded via a written statement posted on Prince's official social media channels. Quote. Regrettably, Miss Patti Kato aka Apolonia filed a frivolous lawsuit, as she acknowledges Apollonia is the name Prince gave to the character played by Miss Kataro in Prince's movie Purple Rain over forty years ago. We never instructed her to cease using her adopted professional name, nor did we object to her business activities.

46:56 Speaker 1: In fact, we repeatedly offered her opportunities to perform at Paisley Park using this professional name. Unquote, So wait, can we mention the.

47:07 Speaker 8: Fact that he didn't come up with it out of thin air. It's her middle name. Yeah, her middle name is with the name right right, Yeah, And the way they're talking about it really galls me because it's like, do you remember when when Prince was in a fight with the label and he wrote slave across his cheek and he wouldn't use the name Prince because of the way they were.

47:30 Speaker 1: Using his name. Yeah, he became an unpronounceable symbol. Yes, and the artist formerly known as the same.

47:35 Speaker 8: Damn thing being done in reverse to her, Well, it's her middle name. He didn't pull it out of thin air. No, Yes, he named the character that, but it's.

47:43 Speaker 1: Her right well. But the other weird thing is they're they're claiming they never told her not to use the name. So I don't I don't know what the hang up is here. There's more than this article, But I wonder if maybe there's a matter of how she uses the name.

47:58 Speaker 8: Yeah, but they've gotten in the way of her trying to trademark it herself her own name.

48:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yeah, that's that's that's true, right. She wants to be able to own the name. It says here. Also, uh, oh, this.

48:14 Speaker 8: Is also Remember they said that they that the name doesn't belong to her personally or professionally. It's her middle name. How does that not belong to her personally?

48:26 Speaker 1: There are exceptions of trademark law and copyright law and intellectual property. It's all very fascinating to me.

48:32 Speaker 13: But there's there say it doesn't belong to her, but there's there's but there are there are exceptions, just as a random example, because Hall and Oates, for example, they recently settled, uh they finally.

48:43 Speaker 1: Through arbitration, they settled their whole legal dispute. But so let's say, for example, your name is Daryl Hall and you have a friend named John Oates, and you decide you're going to form a musical duo and go out and perform, and those are your real names. It doesn't matter. You're still going to get slapped down for that, you know what I mean?

49:00 Speaker 8: Okay, But that's different. That's something happening after the fact. The creation of Apollonia, the character came.

49:07 Speaker 1: In part out of her, right, Well, I'll tell you, yeah, he named.

49:11 Speaker 8: The character after he cast her, not before. He didn't come up with the name Apollonia and then go oh, Look, I found a chick who has the Apollodia middle name. That's not what happened. I met her, wanted to cast her and then name the character her middle name.

49:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know what Prince's long term intentions were with that, but I do know it can get complicated. Dealing with Prince was complicated because Morris Day, of Morris Day in the Time. Sure, he's talked about that, how difficult that was, because you know, so you watch, you watch the movie, and of course Morris Day on the Time is one of the bands in the movie. And then but if you do some digging, you find out that was really Prince's band. You know, he put he put those guys together, Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis, who went on to become very successful producers.

49:59 Speaker 1: Uh they produced Janet Jackson and stuff. But they were also a part of that band along with Morris Day. That that was the time, that was Prince's creation. And then and then so Morris Day had problems with you know, so later on, years after Purple Rain, he's trying to tour as Purple Rain. I mean, I'm sorry, as Purple He's trying to tour as Morris Day on the Time and he's he's got he's getting a hard time about it.

50:22 Speaker 8: Mix because if she was trying to use Apollonius, no, no, no, I'm not, I'm not which was her, But now I'm a c No, I'm just saying. All I'm saying is it's comp Dealing with Prince was complicated. That was That was my only point.

50:34 Speaker 1: That's true.

50:35 Speaker 8: It is true. But it is interesting that you bring that up because he did create the Time, just like he did create Apollonius, which was.

50:43 Speaker 1: Her with two other cars, which had three people in it, which was was so weird.

50:47 Speaker 8: Right, six but three people and you know, and that was his creation, and that was music he created. Yeah, her in the name Apollonia, I'm sorry, it's her middle name. Let her use her dang name. Are trying to use Apollonius. No, but they're stopping own her own name, And that I find I find is really upsetting to me because it completely flies in the face of what Prince did in his time to have ownership of himself and what he did to teach the music world about ownership of self, ownership of artistry.

51:28 Speaker 7: Right.

51:29 Speaker 8: The whole that went on for like how many How long did that go on?

51:31 Speaker 1: Was it two years longer than that?

51:34 Speaker 6: That went on?

51:35 Speaker 8: That he was fighting with them to own himself, and that's what he was fighting for. This is to me, this is this is the same damn thing. It's her middle name, it's her name. Right, he can pull it out of thin air. He named the character after her.

51:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, right.

51:51 Speaker 8: She should get to use it. She should be able to own them saying that them them saying she has no ownership to no right to it, personally or professionally. The personally really gets me. Because it's her middle name. She has every right to it. I don't know how many people I've met in my lifetime that go by their middle name, or like parents, especially like guys who have sons named Junior. Instead of calling him Junior, they might call him David the middle name, or instead of little Bill and big Bill.

52:20 Speaker 8: You know exactly exactly. They should let her own her own dang name. They shouldn't be so selfish and new sides of fact, why are you paying so much attention to this princess state? How about the eight thousand or whatever songs you got in that vault? You got enough music in that vault to be releasing an album like every year for the rest of my life and beyond. So why aren't you concentrating on that. You've got a ton of money making material.

52:45 Speaker 1: Leave her alone.

52:46 Speaker 8: Let her own her dang name. That's my opinion on it.

52:49 Speaker 1: Well, the other thing, too is I don't know from their I mean, I guess they're going to I guess their attitude is they're going to defend the intellectual property of quote unquote the estate, no matter what, and and but and I understand that from a legal perspective to a point. But at the same time, what value.

53:11 Speaker 8: Like sexual property?

53:13 Speaker 1: He no, no, no, But I'm just saying, though, from a financial standpoint, like what value is that name? Specifically in terms of market Like what are you marketing where you're making money off of the name Apollonia?

53:27 Speaker 6: You know what?

53:29 Speaker 8: They refer to her as Patty.

53:31 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I noticed that. I noticed that.

53:33 Speaker 8: Patricia appolonial Kato because it's not going to use the whole name if you don't want you, They don't want you the public to know that that's actually her middle name. People believe that he pulled it out of thin air and named her. Yeah, most people, you know that's what people think I would be. I would, I would, I would go out on a limit, say that probably eighty percent of the American public believes that Prince pulled the name out of thin air and that's where the name came from, not that it was actually her middle right.

54:01 Speaker 8: And know that for them to I just seriously, they have so much money already and there so much material to make billions of dollars more. How much money do you need, grotesque creed? Let the child have her name?

54:17 Speaker 1: No, I agree with you? Uh, they say too. In their statement the lawyers for the estate quote Misscataro's unwarranted lawsuit comes at the tail end of years long disputes before the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board concerning trademark registrations, in which rulings are imminent and with respect to which we have sought a settlement numerous times despite her highly unreasonable demands. Unsurprisingly, her suit fails to acknowledge the cancelation of her Apollonia registration by the United States Patent and Trademark Office.

54:45 Speaker 1: We look forward to the rulings in the pending trademark proceedings and a dismissal of Miss Kato's recent federal action. As is as is our duty, we will continue to protect and preserve Prince's assets and legacy.

54:57 Speaker 8: Unquot prime me a river with that bowl of a of malaccy Seriously, I bet you money that they had something to do with the cancelation of that trademark.

55:08 Speaker 1: I don't know.

55:09 Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe they won't leave her alone to have it. They're claiming her frivolous. I call you frivolous, Princess State.

55:17 Speaker 1: Leave her alone.

55:18 Speaker 8: Let her have her middle name, let her live it's her name.

55:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, leave her.

55:23 Speaker 8: You know they made that character together, utilizing her middle name.

55:26 Speaker 1: Leave them both alone.

55:27 Speaker 8: You've got tons of money to make in that vault. Oh my god, Like, really, what if they released from the vault anything nothing? And they have how many late thousands and thousands. There's so business closively, so much music in there that they could quite literally release songs for the rest of my life and not run out and your life probably and not run out. He has so much material in there, and they've all admitted to it, but they're sitting on it like you want to make money, there you go, you gotta you got a vault full of probably a billion dollars, not not even exaggerating, right, go do that?

56:07 Speaker 1: Why this?

56:08 Speaker 9: Yeah?

56:08 Speaker 1: Why this? Why are we being so petty?

56:11 Speaker 6: I know?

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