Matt Connarton Unleashed 8-23-25 hour 1

0:03 Speaker 1: You're listening to macconnorton Unleashed on wm n H ninety

0:08 Speaker 1: five point three and now the world radio premiere of

0:13 Speaker 1: the new single from Jersey Calling. This is called working

0:17 Speaker 1: Class Punk.

0:23 Speaker 2: Why me at six am looks like got over slept again?

0:28 Speaker 3: John got me.

0:29 Speaker 2: Dressed in on the do orient and it's like Trapp

0:34 Speaker 2: Bick at his worst. Swear to God it must be

0:38 Speaker 2: cursed joined the rad resident of Davey.

0:42 Speaker 3: Was screaming, suns go work, go to work, Go to work,

0:59 Speaker 3: go work, so you can't feel the hurt till it

1:03 Speaker 3: makes you go biser.

1:05 Speaker 4: Go to work, go to work, Go to work, Go

1:10 Speaker 4: to work.

1:11 Speaker 2: In the closet, your face covered in dirt, go to work.

1:22 Speaker 5: The bun gives me.

1:23 Speaker 2: A shout, says I'm just a bum burn out my altress.

1:28 Speaker 3: To the confederations him down, So I say.

1:33 Speaker 2: Hey, you're right, old man, flip the.

1:35 Speaker 3: Burden of the ram.

1:37 Speaker 6: But there's now as get a taste sounds out of

1:40 Speaker 6: the love.

1:43 Speaker 3: That's a res in my screaming sounds that.

1:47 Speaker 5: Let that say wow, trying to.

1:51 Speaker 6: Tool, go work, go to work, go to work, go

1:58 Speaker 6: to work.

1:59 Speaker 4: What do you You can't feel the hurtil it makes

2:02 Speaker 4: you go perserve, go.

2:04 Speaker 3: To work, Go to work, Go to work, go to work,

2:10 Speaker 3: head in the concert, young face, cupboard, and.

2:15 Speaker 6: Go to work where you win you Yeah?

2:42 Speaker 3: How that my house screaming south Wow, we bring to

2:49 Speaker 3: that outs to.

2:52 Speaker 4: Go to work, go to work, work, work, work, so

2:58 Speaker 4: you can't feel the until it makes you go berserk.

3:03 Speaker 3: No work, go work, go to work, go work. Head

3:09 Speaker 3: in the clouds with your face covered in.

3:13 Speaker 6: Out, work out, new work work. What do you get me?

3:22 Speaker 6: It makes you come beside work, work, work and.

3:42 Speaker 7: Work.

3:47 Speaker 1: Oh I love it. That is so good. That is

3:49 Speaker 1: working class Punk. That is the band Jersey Calling. They

3:52 Speaker 1: were on the show a couple months ago. A great

3:55 Speaker 1: band from Philadelphia, and that track is coming out on

3:58 Speaker 1: Labor Day appropriately enough. But you heard it here first

4:02 Speaker 1: the world radio premiere of the new track from Jersey

4:06 Speaker 1: Calling that is called working Class Punk. And we're going

4:09 Speaker 1: to get them on the show at some point in

4:11 Speaker 1: the very near future to talk about it, probably not

4:15 Speaker 1: in person, because they are from Philadelphia. They were able

4:17 Speaker 1: to come in before because they were on tour and

4:19 Speaker 1: we were sort of on the tour routing, so to speak.

4:24 Speaker 1: But we'll get them to call in or join us online,

4:27 Speaker 1: but love that track so again. That is working class

4:30 Speaker 1: punk that is coming out on Labor Day, available everywhere,

4:33 Speaker 1: and that is the world radio premiere of that. And

4:35 Speaker 1: this is Matt Connorton Unleashed. We are live from the

4:38 Speaker 1: studios of wm n H ninety five point three FM

4:42 Speaker 1: and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Today is Saturday August twenty third,

4:46 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five and I am not alone.

5:00 Speaker 8: Good morning Sunshine.

5:02 Speaker 1: Jenny is here at the news table. Yes, yes, so

5:06 Speaker 1: we have an exciting show. Of course, in just a

5:09 Speaker 1: couple of minutes we're gonna be talking to Skull or School.

5:12 Speaker 1: I gotta ask how to pronounce the name correctly. I'm

5:18 Speaker 1: not sure it's s k A l As the umlot

5:23 Speaker 1: over the a so great band from the UK. We

5:27 Speaker 1: recently did the American radio premiere of their new single,

5:31 Speaker 1: The Whites, and we're gonna play that again in a

5:33 Speaker 1: couple of minutes, and then we're gonna have I think

5:35 Speaker 1: at least one of the guys joining us via WhatsApp

5:38 Speaker 1: from the band all the way from the UK, and

5:40 Speaker 1: then at the end of our conversation we'll play their

5:42 Speaker 1: first single, which is also really really good so I

5:44 Speaker 1: love this band, so looking forward to that. In the

5:47 Speaker 1: second hour today, our friend Charles Richardson from The Charles

5:50 Speaker 1: Richardson Show, who we have not had on the program

5:53 Speaker 1: in quite some time, but he's going to be joining

5:55 Speaker 1: us all the way from the great state of Florida.

5:57 Speaker 1: And then in the third hour, Linda Avelynde is going

6:00 Speaker 1: to be joining us to talk about her new single.

6:02 Speaker 1: So we have although it's it's an unusual show this

6:06 Speaker 1: week in the sense that we don't have any in

6:08 Speaker 1: studio guests. Everyone is remote, which is which is unusual,

6:11 Speaker 1: not intentional in any way, it just worked out that way.

6:15 Speaker 1: But we also want to make sure that we mentioned

6:20 Speaker 1: so Vice's Fest is coming up and when Vice's Inc.

6:25 Speaker 1: Was on the show the last time, you know, because

6:26 Speaker 1: obviously this is a major festival, so these things are

6:29 Speaker 1: planned way way in advance. But Vice's Fest is happening

6:33 Speaker 1: next weekend August twenty, ninth, thirtieth and thirty first at

6:37 Speaker 1: the Strand Theater in Dover. Jenny and I were invited

6:41 Speaker 1: to go, but the problem is with our schedules with

6:43 Speaker 1: all the you know, with the radio shows and the podcasting,

6:46 Speaker 1: and everything's really hard for us to get away for

6:48 Speaker 1: a whole weekend to go and do this. But but

6:50 Speaker 1: it's a big event. It starts again. This is at

6:53 Speaker 1: the Strand in Dover. It starts Friday, doors open at

6:58 Speaker 1: eleven a m. Saturday doors open at eleven and Sunday

7:01 Speaker 1: doors open at twelve. So it's Friday, Saturday and Sunday

7:06 Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend. It's an all ages event. You can

7:09 Speaker 1: go to Vicesfest dot com. I do want to quickly

7:12 Speaker 1: mention at least some of that. I'll quickly run through

7:15 Speaker 1: who's going to be performing at the show, because a

7:17 Speaker 1: lot of these are guests who we've had on the

7:20 Speaker 1: show here on Matt Connorton on leash. Let's see we've

7:23 Speaker 1: got so Vice's Inc. Of course, Signal to Noise, Sepsis,

7:27 Speaker 1: Troll Scarecrow Hill, Euphemia, Jony, Earthquake Band, Night Fury, Under

7:33 Speaker 1: the Horizon, the Roscoes, Lions and Lavender. That's a cool name.

7:40 Speaker 1: Battle Mode, house Lights, Oh, house Lights has been on

7:42 Speaker 1: the show YEP a while ago. The Shirts and Shoes,

7:45 Speaker 1: Alaska Angels, The Carrot Flowers, Plague Dad. Plague Dad has

7:49 Speaker 1: been on the show, The Living Space Boyd and the Monkeys,

7:52 Speaker 1: Willie DeNardo and the corporates Mango Catch Manuel, Separator. I

8:02 Speaker 1: think that's separator. It's just a different way of spelling it.

8:04 Speaker 1: Silver Cord, Mother, Nimbus, Trading, Tombstones. They've been on the show,

8:08 Speaker 1: Decaying Continuum, Cellar Door, Cryan Caleb of course has been

8:12 Speaker 1: on the show recently. Fine Pioneer Brady's Grown Up Time.

8:17 Speaker 1: That's interesting. The Joe Blander, Shred Trio, Peter Gay, Adam Vitali,

8:23 Speaker 1: Jake Hebert and twenty Vegan. So that is the lineup.

8:29 Speaker 1: If you go to vicesfest dot com you can see

8:31 Speaker 1: the full lineup, learn how to get tickets. And again

8:33 Speaker 1: that is next weekend. That's a this is a big deal.

8:36 Speaker 1: There's a lot of great bands, a lot of these

8:38 Speaker 1: bands that have been on the show. Of course, you

8:40 Speaker 1: know Sepsis. We've got a Swarmyfests coming up soon. Troll

8:44 Speaker 1: they were on recently Scarecrow Hill, Incredible, they've been on

8:47 Speaker 1: the show. We saw them at the show that Under

8:50 Speaker 1: the Horizon was also on recently to a swarm Fast

8:54 Speaker 1: at Jewel and they'll be They were just recently added

8:56 Speaker 1: to Swarmy Fest as well. Yeah, so there's lots of

8:59 Speaker 1: great stuff going on, so I definitely suggest you check

9:01 Speaker 1: out this festival. Like I said, for Jenny and I

9:02 Speaker 1: to get there logistically would be very difficult because it's

9:06 Speaker 1: you know, Friday, Friday. Our Fridays and Saturdays are obviously

9:08 Speaker 1: very full, and then Sundays we you know, we have

9:11 Speaker 1: podcasts to do Sunday as well.

9:12 Speaker 8: So also while we're on the topic of arts and wonder,

9:17 Speaker 8: I wanted to make sure to mention that the Mosaic

9:19 Speaker 8: Art Collective has an open art call right now and

9:23 Speaker 8: the deadline is coming up. It's the end of this

9:25 Speaker 8: end of this coming week on Friday. It's called Full

9:27 Speaker 8: Circle twenty twenty five. Every year they do an annual show,

9:31 Speaker 8: and what they're looking for is, you know, show them

9:36 Speaker 8: what what you're your priest, you're very proud of that

9:40 Speaker 8: you've recently done, or your own take on what full

9:44 Speaker 8: Circle means to you. What is there a moment in

9:48 Speaker 8: time that you've created something about or anything like that.

9:52 Speaker 8: So they're invited. It's an open call. I'm telling you,

9:58 Speaker 8: it's fun to be in it. I've done it myself

10:00 Speaker 8: and I hope to do this one as well. The

10:02 Speaker 8: deadline is coming up this coming Saturday at August August thirtieth,

10:07 Speaker 8: at midnight. That's the deadline. And then the exhibit is

10:10 Speaker 8: in September from the September eighth to the twenty sixth,

10:13 Speaker 8: and the reception is on September thirteenth from four to eight.

10:17 Speaker 8: And it's wonderful to have a piece of yourself hung

10:20 Speaker 8: on a wall in there, and you know, bring your

10:22 Speaker 8: friends and family and just enjoy the gallery itself. It's

10:26 Speaker 8: such an incredible place to be and it's a unique

10:30 Speaker 8: aspect that we have here in Manchester to have such

10:34 Speaker 8: a wonderful gallery right here in the Queen City. So

10:39 Speaker 8: I would highly, highly encourage you to submit your work

10:42 Speaker 8: to that. If that's not your cup of tea, they

10:45 Speaker 8: do have another opening as well, called the Exquisite Corpse,

10:50 Speaker 8: and that's going to run in October. So you can

10:53 Speaker 8: imagine they're looking for, you know, the creepy, celebrating the uncanny,

10:59 Speaker 8: the strange, beautiful, you know that kind of a thing.

11:01 Speaker 8: So if that's more your cup of tea, check it out.

11:03 Speaker 8: Go to the mosaic Arcollective dot com. Submit your work,

11:07 Speaker 8: be a part of it. It is a wonderful place.

11:10 Speaker 1: To show very good, very good. Just briefly too, do

11:13 Speaker 1: you want to mention the Common Dreams Byeline just yeah,

11:17 Speaker 1: just quickly, yes.

11:18 Speaker 8: Very quickly. I am proud to say that I have

11:21 Speaker 8: my first byline in Common Dreams, which is an excellent

11:24 Speaker 8: publication to get published in. It's about some recent events

11:29 Speaker 8: in my life, so I encourage you to go check

11:31 Speaker 8: it out. If you have a hard time finding it,

11:32 Speaker 8: go to Gencoffee dot com, J E. N N C

11:35 Speaker 8: O F f Ey dot com and you can catch

11:39 Speaker 8: a link there in my blog along with other things

11:41 Speaker 8: that I write about.

11:43 Speaker 1: Very good and congratulations on that, Thank you very much.

11:46 Speaker 1: I'm proud. So right now we're going to hit this track,

11:48 Speaker 1: this is the Whites again. We gave this the American

11:50 Speaker 1: radio premiere I think a week or two ago, a

11:53 Speaker 1: great track, and then we're going to have at least

11:55 Speaker 1: one of the guys from the band on the line

11:57 Speaker 1: with us all the way from the UK via WhatsApp.

11:59 Speaker 1: So really looking forward of that. But uh, and then

12:01 Speaker 1: we'll play the other single too at the end of

12:02 Speaker 1: our conversation, because they've got another great song. Their first

12:05 Speaker 1: single is also really good, but this is the newest one.

12:07 Speaker 1: This is called the Whites, the Band of Skull and

12:10 Speaker 1: check this out. I like this quite a bit.

12:22 Speaker 6: Gotta beam out to.

12:35 Speaker 9: Keep on ins e to you know what's coming the

12:39 Speaker 9: lights up? It's time ago. Why let's keep my breaking

12:44 Speaker 9: the sleeping bon y'all. I is a man, always been.

12:47 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know you come man, you got.

12:56 Speaker 9: To we ain't come to tea. So I'm starting some things.

13:06 Speaker 1: We deal in nothing all at the time.

13:09 Speaker 6: It's going, man, you're not just's your cart f it's

13:12 Speaker 6: a monthday feelings you start going to blain't see feelings,

13:15 Speaker 6: no waste against y'all.

13:16 Speaker 9: Be as living.

13:17 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, your come man, they got stop this sidling.

13:24 Speaker 6: Us got a big one.

13:43 Speaker 5: Y'all got all this out, y'all.

13:46 Speaker 3: Let me tellbody that comes out.

13:48 Speaker 6: Of rys hot out this bunny, y'all brain.

13:53 Speaker 5: I'm chilling up here.

13:54 Speaker 9: I'll see if they see y'all got out of this

13:58 Speaker 9: out there, y'all.

13:59 Speaker 6: By Johns.

14:05 Speaker 5: Buy Beyond begin S.

15:19 Speaker 1: I love that the track is called the Whites, the

15:21 Speaker 1: band is Skull, And let's see who we have on

15:25 Speaker 1: the line with us. Hello, welcome to the show. Hello, Hello, Hey,

15:30 Speaker 1: hey guys, So who do we have?

15:31 Speaker 9: Who do we have on the line so this is

15:35 Speaker 9: and I'm the lead singer.

15:36 Speaker 1: My name is Jack very Good, very good. So we've

15:40 Speaker 1: got Evan and Jack with us, guys. I love that

15:42 Speaker 1: track that is it's catchy. I love the energy of it.

15:45 Speaker 1: It's one of those songs I always say, if it

15:47 Speaker 1: doesn't get you move in check your pulse, you might

15:49 Speaker 1: be dead because it's really really good. So I love you.

15:54 Speaker 1: I love your sound. And by the way, I also

15:56 Speaker 1: really like the first single too, which we're going to

15:59 Speaker 1: play at the end of our conversation today all of

16:00 Speaker 1: the people. That's that's another great song. But I was

16:04 Speaker 1: reading about you, guys, and this is a relatively new project,

16:08 Speaker 1: right if you guys only been around for like a year?

16:10 Speaker 8: Is that correct?

16:12 Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah, the most part really Yeah about February last wet.

16:16 Speaker 1: Okay, oh wow, So this is yeah, So that's that's

16:19 Speaker 1: pretty new. You're already having it looks like you're already

16:22 Speaker 1: having a lot of success. Have you been getting uh

16:25 Speaker 1: have you been getting some airplay with these singles over

16:27 Speaker 1: in the UK?

16:29 Speaker 10: So we recently just had something come through that we

16:31 Speaker 10: got played on Radio X, which is obviously like a

16:33 Speaker 10: big station around here. Quite a few local ones as well,

16:36 Speaker 10: so you play list editions like and obviously yourself are

16:39 Speaker 10: playing it as well.

16:40 Speaker 1: Absolutely with with your music, I mean, do you try

16:44 Speaker 1: to do you try to write things that are are

16:47 Speaker 1: accessible or do you just kind of do what you

16:50 Speaker 1: do and and hope it catches on because it just

16:52 Speaker 1: seems like it seems like these songs are very sort

16:56 Speaker 1: of radio accessible. Shall we say, you know, they've got hooks,

16:59 Speaker 1: they've got you know, they pull you in quick. I mean,

17:03 Speaker 1: is that is that the kind of thing you try

17:05 Speaker 1: to write or does that just sort of happen organically.

17:08 Speaker 11: I'll say, we don't try and we don't sit down

17:11 Speaker 11: to write to Kater for radio. It's just kind of

17:13 Speaker 11: what comes out in the moment. That's fonsaneous singing the

17:16 Speaker 11: practice room when we're writing.

17:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, when we go in to the.

17:20 Speaker 11: Studio work with producer, you know, it gets a bit

17:25 Speaker 11: more like we'll take this bit out and we'll make

17:28 Speaker 11: it a bit more radio friendly. That's when that happens

17:31 Speaker 11: in that stage of the process rather than when we're

17:33 Speaker 11: actually writing a thing.

17:35 Speaker 10: Yeah, the listener as well for some aspects like is

17:39 Speaker 10: that like we like to write catch you up because

17:41 Speaker 10: we enjoy it, But at the same time, it's like,

17:43 Speaker 10: you know, if if if it gets catchy, then that's

17:45 Speaker 10: what you want.

17:45 Speaker 9: But you've got to write from the soul as well,

17:47 Speaker 9: you know what I mean.

17:47 Speaker 1: You've got to be truly honest, right of course. Yeah,

17:50 Speaker 1: that's that's where it starts. Yeah. And then now, so

17:53 Speaker 1: you've got the two singles, is there what's kind of

17:56 Speaker 1: the long term plan? Do you have more singles in

17:58 Speaker 1: the pipeline or do you plan do you plan to

18:00 Speaker 1: release an EP or an album? Uh?

18:02 Speaker 10: What, We've got more songs and sense at the moments,

18:05 Speaker 10: befair mate. So it's like the plane is is, We've

18:07 Speaker 10: got a live session booked in that we're gonna do,

18:09 Speaker 10: which will obviously have multiple tracks on the songs that

18:12 Speaker 10: we've not done like we've not previously done hopefully released

18:16 Speaker 10: of like independently in a slight way that it's not

18:18 Speaker 10: a fullyp but we'll have like a session from there

18:21 Speaker 10: and then we've had a lot of content.

18:22 Speaker 9: You know, video wise, to be able to put out everywhere.

18:24 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. We live in a time when

18:28 Speaker 1: there's so many different ways to approach that in terms

18:30 Speaker 1: of how you release music. I'm old enough to remember

18:33 Speaker 1: when it was you know you you have a single

18:36 Speaker 1: is the Ghost of Radio six eight weeks before the album,

18:38 Speaker 1: and then the album comes out, and then hopefully, if

18:40 Speaker 1: it all goes well, you'll have more singles from the album.

18:42 Speaker 1: But today there's so many different ways to do it,

18:46 Speaker 1: which is which is fantastic. And I was looking too,

18:50 Speaker 1: it looks like all of the People, which is the

18:52 Speaker 1: first single that that did pretty well for you, that's

18:55 Speaker 1: or continues to do well for you on on Spotify,

18:59 Speaker 1: and then I I assume, I mean, I don't know

19:01 Speaker 1: what the numbers are like so far for the whites,

19:03 Speaker 1: but I assume it's already taken off.

19:06 Speaker 9: Yeah, as you have finished. Yeah, it's been a great response.

19:09 Speaker 9: Getting played on sort of national radio was always a

19:12 Speaker 9: great win.

19:13 Speaker 10: It's just about being able to extend out to people

19:15 Speaker 10: who have maybe never heard of us before. So obviously

19:18 Speaker 10: things like this is a big help because you know

19:20 Speaker 10: we're from like an across the water.

19:23 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, absolutely, Now, have you guys been in

19:26 Speaker 1: have you guys both been been in bands before this?

19:28 Speaker 1: I assume you have. It sounds like you've both you know,

19:30 Speaker 1: got some experience at this.

19:33 Speaker 9: Yeah.

19:33 Speaker 11: Well, me and Evan actually bring our first ever bands

19:36 Speaker 11: together back call You Kids. Yeah yeah, there's so many

19:41 Speaker 11: poor renditions of Beatles tracks, so we started from there

19:46 Speaker 11: and we've been doing it for years now.

19:48 Speaker 1: Oh wow. So having started together so young, there's probably

19:54 Speaker 1: kind of almost an intuition right in terms of collaborating

19:58 Speaker 1: in terms of making music. I I would assume that

20:00 Speaker 1: it's very that it's very easy at this point. And

20:03 Speaker 1: another one, Yeah, after all these years.

20:06 Speaker 9: Natural chemistry which like words calm truly explain. It just

20:09 Speaker 9: happens within that moment, which what that's what makes it

20:12 Speaker 9: so special. Same with our drummer Tom as well.

20:14 Speaker 11: I've been playing in bands with Thom since about thirteen fourteen,

20:18 Speaker 11: so we've got that mean him we're playing for that

20:21 Speaker 11: long together.

20:22 Speaker 9: Well we know which, we know it works together, you

20:24 Speaker 9: know what I mean. So it's just it all falls

20:25 Speaker 9: into place really easily.

20:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's great. That's great. Now what about the

20:29 Speaker 1: other guys, because there's there's five of you in the band, correct,

20:32 Speaker 1: it's a five piece? Yeah, five piece? Now, now how

20:36 Speaker 1: did the how did the rest of the band come together?

20:38 Speaker 1: Because I assume the two of you were the nucleus

20:41 Speaker 1: in the beginning right, and then and then you brought

20:43 Speaker 1: in other people or how did the band? How did

20:45 Speaker 1: the band become a band?

20:47 Speaker 10: So the main trio originally was me Emty and some

20:51 Speaker 10: like we went to high school together kind of thing,

20:54 Speaker 10: and then the likes of Darcy and Adams.

20:56 Speaker 9: So Darcy's younger brother Zaki is one of our best mates.

20:58 Speaker 10: He's the same mates does so Ghast and ended up

21:01 Speaker 10: joining and then Adam was in other bands as well,

21:03 Speaker 10: like we'll do both in other bands, and then we

21:05 Speaker 10: kind of just like they collided together for a band

21:07 Speaker 10: called Riverstone, and then after that I then joined the band.

21:11 Speaker 10: It is like a sort of new alias of Skull

21:13 Speaker 10: kind of thing, and then like the rebirth of the

21:15 Speaker 10: sort of the band. So these were going for a

21:17 Speaker 10: good couple of years before and as well with a

21:19 Speaker 10: separate band who were unreal like you know what I mean.

21:22 Speaker 9: It was over the past few years really.

21:26 Speaker 1: But it sounds like this project again because it hasn't

21:29 Speaker 1: been around for too too long, so it sounds like

21:31 Speaker 1: it came together pretty quickly, right once you had all

21:33 Speaker 1: the once you had all the pieces of the puzzle together,

21:35 Speaker 1: it really gelled fast.

21:37 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, we were all friends previously as well.

21:39 Speaker 10: So I think when your friends were somebody and you know,

21:41 Speaker 10: I mean, you can go out for a droop with

21:42 Speaker 10: them and you can go spend time with him, you

21:44 Speaker 10: kind of know them then. So it makes life in

21:46 Speaker 10: the practice room a lot easier at the same time

21:49 Speaker 10: harder when you know what I mean, someone's had a

21:50 Speaker 10: worse day than other.

21:51 Speaker 9: But that's that's the beauty of it, Like, you know

21:53 Speaker 9: what I mean, you have to have that sort of piece.

21:55 Speaker 9: We all are. We're all really cooks made. We are brothers,

21:57 Speaker 9: and I think that same.

22:00 Speaker 11: I think if you could if you saw it was live,

22:02 Speaker 11: it shows outside the band as well. You know, it

22:07 Speaker 11: shows out we were jealous to everyone are playing live

22:09 Speaker 11: because you can spot Botts a mile away when they play.

22:13 Speaker 11: You can sell to just a group of people you

22:14 Speaker 11: meet up in a room every now and then go

22:16 Speaker 11: play a gig.

22:16 Speaker 9: You know, there's no there's no like brotherly chemistry to it,

22:19 Speaker 9: whereas we did.

22:21 Speaker 1: We have that, you know what I mean, Yeah, that

22:23 Speaker 1: makes such a huge difference. I just know from my

22:25 Speaker 1: own experience playing in bands, when you actually have a

22:28 Speaker 1: genuine friendship with the people you're in the band with,

22:30 Speaker 1: it it makes all the difference in the world. You know,

22:32 Speaker 1: you could have you could have great songs and great everything, right,

22:36 Speaker 1: but if you're not, if you're not friends, it's not

22:39 Speaker 1: gonna last, you know. So that's that's really good. And

22:44 Speaker 1: then now I read something too about you guys. Are

22:47 Speaker 1: are you guys doing this independently or are you actually

22:49 Speaker 1: you're because I see something here about Snowdonia Records. Are

22:53 Speaker 1: you signed to a label?

22:54 Speaker 10: Oh so there's a long story on that behind that

22:56 Speaker 10: one that was like a previous thing. We're not working

22:59 Speaker 10: with people like Noisy Neighbors. We believe in Roadhouse. So

23:04 Speaker 10: the Noisy Neighbors and we believe in a few other

23:06 Speaker 10: partners have joined together to create this Roadhouse and it's

23:09 Speaker 10: like they sort of have like sort of around, yeah,

23:13 Speaker 10: a few bands on the roster, like and then you're

23:15 Speaker 10: sort of all around the country. So it's like a

23:17 Speaker 10: new it's a new leaf for us kind of thing

23:18 Speaker 10: and a chance to be able to sort of take

23:21 Speaker 10: over cities like Liverpool, which is like our closest one

23:24 Speaker 10: in Manchester as well. Quite lucky to be Winsford because

23:27 Speaker 10: we are like a sandwich between two of the greatest

23:29 Speaker 10: musical cities this herbs ever had, you know what I mean,

23:31 Speaker 10: And we have like a beautiful combination of the pair

23:34 Speaker 10: of them, and that's sort of predominantly where our sounds

23:37 Speaker 10: come from, you know what I mean.

23:38 Speaker 9: It's it's all very British based sort of.

23:42 Speaker 1: Now when you talk about the two cities. Uh so

23:44 Speaker 1: for for our American listeners, we're we're in Manchester, but

23:48 Speaker 1: we're in Manchester, New Hampshire in the US of course.

23:52 Speaker 1: So when you talk about the two cities, what two

23:54 Speaker 1: cities are you speaking of specifically? If so, everyone's clear.

23:57 Speaker 9: Manchester and Liverpool.

23:59 Speaker 10: Yeah, so we've got like Manchester over here, which is

24:02 Speaker 10: a big northern city. You obviously got bands like Oasis,

24:04 Speaker 10: the Stone Roses, and then Loverpool is obviously the birthplace

24:07 Speaker 10: of the Beatles and many other great bands that the

24:09 Speaker 10: real people as UTAs you know.

24:10 Speaker 9: What I mean. Yeah, that lies yeah, yeah, of our

24:13 Speaker 9: biggest you know what I mean. It's like they are

24:15 Speaker 9: the coolest.

24:16 Speaker 10: There's a cool scene that's always been going around here

24:18 Speaker 10: for many years, and especially within our little town of Winsford.

24:21 Speaker 10: Like we've had we've had a couple of venues where

24:23 Speaker 10: we've had like bands coming through and that's what sort

24:26 Speaker 10: of influenced us from being so young. It is just

24:28 Speaker 10: being introduced to the cool side of music and just

24:31 Speaker 10: the realness of being like true to your craft, being

24:34 Speaker 10: honest about what you say, being like full focused into

24:37 Speaker 10: the music, and just like it's it's it's a feeling

24:39 Speaker 10: that not many people can truly appreciate because they've never

24:42 Speaker 10: grown up.

24:42 Speaker 1: Around it, you know what I mean, right, right, So, geographically,

24:45 Speaker 1: you're in a great place.

24:46 Speaker 9: In terms of yeah, in the heart of the country,

24:50 Speaker 9: you know what I mean.

24:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's fantastic. Yeah, And I mean, is there

24:56 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a strange question, but

24:57 Speaker 1: I'll ask it. Is there any kind of pressure that

24:59 Speaker 1: comes with that in terms of where you are geographically?

25:02 Speaker 1: Is there like a pressure to be really good? Because

25:07 Speaker 1: you know, there is so much great those those two cities,

25:10 Speaker 1: Like you said this, you know, in terms of the

25:13 Speaker 1: musical output from those those cities. I mean, is there

25:17 Speaker 1: a pressure that comes with that being kind of sandwiched

25:18 Speaker 1: between them, Like you you have to be great in

25:21 Speaker 1: order to in order for people to take you seriously.

25:24 Speaker 1: You can't just be good, You've got to be really,

25:26 Speaker 1: really good.

25:27 Speaker 9: I don't know.

25:28 Speaker 11: I don't think we do you feel any pressure, to

25:29 Speaker 11: be honest, I mean, yeah, likely the bands that we've

25:31 Speaker 11: grown up listening to for our northwest of England. You know,

25:34 Speaker 11: we are inspired by them, but there's a lot.

25:37 Speaker 9: Of good young bands around it.

25:38 Speaker 1: In a minute, the all.

25:39 Speaker 11: Fit Insight scenes and you know, scenes of Liverpool, scenes

25:42 Speaker 11: in Manchester. But we're not concerned anybody else but ourselves

25:46 Speaker 11: if we don't want to be you know, put ourselves

25:48 Speaker 11: into a box of sounds a certain way to fit

25:50 Speaker 11: into a certain scene.

25:51 Speaker 9: We just want to do our thing. And that's all

25:52 Speaker 9: we're bothered about.

25:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that makes sense. I think that's a healthy

25:56 Speaker 1: way to approach it, right, just you know, don't you know,

25:58 Speaker 1: rather than worrying about what everyone else is doing, worry

26:01 Speaker 1: about what you're doing and doing it the best that

26:02 Speaker 1: you can. And obviously you guys are off to a

26:04 Speaker 1: fantastic start, so you're you've clearly got the right attitude

26:07 Speaker 1: and the right approach. I'm curious about what you guys

26:11 Speaker 1: have learned you you probably, I mean, you can tell

26:15 Speaker 1: the story if you want to. I'd love to hear it,

26:16 Speaker 1: but I don't know if you want to get into that.

26:18 Speaker 1: But but you mentioned there's there's a bit of a

26:20 Speaker 1: story with your previous label. But I'll ask the question

26:23 Speaker 1: this way, just more broadly, what have you guys in

26:25 Speaker 1: the short time that you guys have been together as

26:27 Speaker 1: a band? What have you learned? Uh, business wise, industry wise,

26:32 Speaker 1: and and maybe even have there been some surprises along

26:34 Speaker 1: the way, because it sounds like you've already been through

26:36 Speaker 1: some things and now you're on a very positive path.

26:39 Speaker 1: But it sounds like you you might have hit a

26:41 Speaker 1: speed bumper two. I don't know if they call them

26:43 Speaker 1: speed bumps in the UK, but oh.

26:46 Speaker 9: There's always speed bumps in the road.

26:47 Speaker 10: There's always pop ways that you can lead down in

26:50 Speaker 10: the Yeah, promise and did like at the end of

26:53 Speaker 10: the day, like when we did it things that worked well.

26:56 Speaker 9: It was just a.

26:57 Speaker 10: Differences of like of models and understandings and things, and like,

27:01 Speaker 10: you have to stay true to your word and stay

27:03 Speaker 10: true to what you believe in when you do stuff

27:04 Speaker 10: like this.

27:05 Speaker 9: So if you're mixing with people who don't.

27:07 Speaker 10: Quite have that same thing, and then you witness people

27:11 Speaker 10: for like kind of who they truly are at times,

27:13 Speaker 10: and I think I think.

27:14 Speaker 11: A lot of our speed bunch has come down to

27:16 Speaker 11: a lack of knowledge of the industry, m being behind

27:21 Speaker 11: in the years in that regard, not in regard to music,

27:23 Speaker 11: but in regard to the industry. But we've got a

27:25 Speaker 11: good team working behind us now and it's looking pretty

27:28 Speaker 11: good for the future.

27:29 Speaker 9: But I think next year is going to be a

27:30 Speaker 9: good year for us.

27:31 Speaker 10: And there's a lot of people in the pipelines as

27:33 Speaker 10: well and on the underground of an underlayer like people

27:36 Speaker 10: within the industry and very respective people within the industry

27:39 Speaker 10: who have like obviously like close to us.

27:41 Speaker 9: You will also give us a help and add along

27:42 Speaker 9: the way.

27:43 Speaker 10: I mean you can advise you and tell you how

27:46 Speaker 10: it truly is from an aspect where we may not understand,

27:49 Speaker 10: but from a viewpoint of people who are probably working

27:52 Speaker 10: class like us growing up and then had to deal

27:54 Speaker 10: with this sort of big industry where there's a lot

27:56 Speaker 10: of money and there's a lot.

27:57 Speaker 9: Of pressure and a lot of power.

27:59 Speaker 10: But we don't feel no pressure currently, like so it's

28:02 Speaker 10: one of them you just have to wing getting to

28:04 Speaker 10: see how you get unbuilgain.

28:05 Speaker 1: No, that's great. I think you've got the right the

28:07 Speaker 1: right approach and and it's so important too to have

28:10 Speaker 1: a good team around you and to have people that

28:11 Speaker 1: you can trust, because yeah, you know, there's a lot

28:15 Speaker 1: of uh you know, there's there's there's a lot of

28:18 Speaker 1: people in the industry who maybe are not trustworthy. Of

28:21 Speaker 1: course it's the entertainment industry. There's also some people who

28:24 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they mean well, uh but they don't

28:27 Speaker 1: maybe quite quite have you know, as you said, the

28:30 Speaker 1: knowledge to be really helpful and to and to support you.

28:35 Speaker 1: And uh so it sounds like, yeah, it sounds like

28:38 Speaker 1: you've got a great team and it sounds like too,

28:39 Speaker 1: so there's it sounds like there's also other bands that

28:41 Speaker 1: you I mean, do you play out Are there certain

28:44 Speaker 1: bands that you guys share the stage with a lot

28:46 Speaker 1: or or what what is the live situation there?

28:49 Speaker 9: Are you?

28:49 Speaker 1: Are you playing a lot of shows? If you've been

28:51 Speaker 1: doing festivals this summer, like what's what's the touring situation

28:54 Speaker 1: over there?

28:55 Speaker 10: So it's been still early days, like we've got a

28:57 Speaker 10: few obviously at the least party for the second and single,

29:00 Speaker 10: like we did the Whites and that was a good night.

29:02 Speaker 10: We had like qualms and our Matland support and we

29:05 Speaker 10: have a regular sort of Scottish band that we play

29:07 Speaker 10: with called ocean Views a bunch. It's like we met

29:10 Speaker 10: them playing a festival on like the island Butte, which

29:12 Speaker 10: is like a little Scottish island a few years ago.

29:15 Speaker 9: Yeah, then we do it.

29:17 Speaker 10: We do like a so we run like a venue

29:19 Speaker 10: up in where we're from, in Winston called the Dellamete Dog,

29:22 Speaker 10: And then we do like a thing called Stalloween, which

29:25 Speaker 10: is like a big Halloween party.

29:26 Speaker 9: We do a big gig. Obviously everyone dresses up in

29:29 Speaker 9: like that.

29:29 Speaker 10: Like ocean Views are like a traditional character and an

29:32 Speaker 10: integral part of that with us, you know what I mean.

29:35 Speaker 1: Oh, that's very cool, And that's so important to getting

29:38 Speaker 1: to play festivals because uh, not only does it give

29:41 Speaker 1: you an opportunity to be in front of an audience

29:43 Speaker 1: who might not some of who might not be aware

29:45 Speaker 1: of you, but also the networking opportunities and you know

29:48 Speaker 1: involved in those types of situations are unparalleled. You know,

29:51 Speaker 1: you'll you'll never get a better chance than when you're

29:53 Speaker 1: at a festival to really meet a lot of people,

29:56 Speaker 1: meet other bands, meet other people in the industry. That's great.

30:00 Speaker 9: Well, networking is just.

30:01 Speaker 11: As important as the music and talking to people and

30:06 Speaker 11: getting people on board of what you're doing, and you know,

30:10 Speaker 11: creating a buzz around yourself speaking to people at gigs

30:12 Speaker 11: and just generally being friendly and talking to people and

30:16 Speaker 11: checking out their bands rather than being like arrogant and thinking, yeah,

30:21 Speaker 11: we're rock and roll man, we don't need to speak

30:22 Speaker 11: to people and try all.

30:24 Speaker 9: You know, it's that way.

30:27 Speaker 11: I think that works against you a lot of the

30:28 Speaker 11: time these days. So it's good to you know, show

30:31 Speaker 11: your face and speak to people, like saying networking.

30:33 Speaker 9: And just be real, you know what I mean.

30:35 Speaker 10: Like we do it because we love it, you know

30:36 Speaker 10: what I mean. You see you can you can you

30:38 Speaker 10: can sell a black artist from a mile away. You

30:40 Speaker 10: can tell a fake, you know what I mean. It's

30:41 Speaker 10: like if you do it, you do it because you

30:43 Speaker 10: love it and you want to be able to do

30:44 Speaker 10: it and you want to have that passion. And then

30:46 Speaker 10: when you meet like minded people like that, then that

30:49 Speaker 10: natural connection and chemistry just works, you know what I mean.

30:52 Speaker 9: That's what it's about, those natural connection. That's what music is.

30:54 Speaker 11: It speaks for the soul, doesn't it. You know, it's

30:56 Speaker 11: a universal language. Music is when you find up then,

31:00 Speaker 11: you know, isn't it?

31:02 Speaker 1: Yeah? One hundred absolutely. Hey, by the way, what's the

31:05 Speaker 1: correct way to pronounce your name? Is it?

31:08 Speaker 9: Is?

31:08 Speaker 6: It?

31:09 Speaker 1: Is it skull? I was saying skull? Is that correct?

31:11 Speaker 12: Or?

31:11 Speaker 1: Am I off a little bit?

31:13 Speaker 8: So?

31:13 Speaker 10: I think I think with the American accent, maybe skull,

31:15 Speaker 10: but we say scalped. So it's like it's like, so

31:18 Speaker 10: there's a lingo like which is if you were a scaley.

31:22 Speaker 10: I'm trying to think of what the counterpoint would be

31:25 Speaker 10: for that. But at the same time, it's Swedish for reason,

31:29 Speaker 10: cause and motive.

31:30 Speaker 9: That's what the music, that's why we do it music.

31:35 Speaker 1: Oh I like that, That's that's cool. Okay. So so

31:38 Speaker 1: technically okay, so I am off a little bit. So

31:40 Speaker 1: scal is that closer?

31:42 Speaker 7: Yeah?

31:43 Speaker 9: Yeah, kill you know what I mean?

31:46 Speaker 10: But we can't we can't say that if we have

31:48 Speaker 10: to drop the two dots, but we will put it's.

31:50 Speaker 1: Scalp, yeah, scal Okay, Okay, good, I'm glad I asked.

31:53 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't one hundred percent sure. Do you

31:57 Speaker 1: ever see it? Do people ever get a like on

32:01 Speaker 1: on poster? Is there anything do they do they leave out?

32:03 Speaker 1: Because uh, because of the way the A is do

32:07 Speaker 1: people ever mess that up?

32:08 Speaker 10: Okay, well we're not too fuss like you know what

32:10 Speaker 10: I mean, Like it's yeah, it's one of them. If anything,

32:16 Speaker 10: the correct way to spell the way we say it

32:17 Speaker 10: would be about it. But when you do some fonts

32:20 Speaker 10: and you have them two dots at the top, it

32:21 Speaker 10: looks pretty fun.

32:22 Speaker 11: Yeah, if you don't know us and they don't know

32:23 Speaker 11: to save the name properly after we've watched us live,

32:25 Speaker 11: definitely all are.

32:28 Speaker 1: Outstanding. Outstanding. Well, now, so what's next for you guys? So, uh,

32:33 Speaker 1: you know, you've got the two singles out. What's what's

32:35 Speaker 1: the next thing that we should be looking for from you?

32:38 Speaker 9: Thank you?

32:39 Speaker 11: We've got this live studio, sess something that we're going

32:41 Speaker 11: to be doing. Okay, this year hopefully we get back

32:45 Speaker 11: in the studio, get another single in the pipeline. But

32:47 Speaker 11: at the moment, it's preparing for next year. Hopefully it's

32:51 Speaker 11: going to be a really good year for us.

32:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, outstanding. No, we look forward to uh, we

32:56 Speaker 1: look forward to keeping track of everything that you do. Which,

32:58 Speaker 1: by the way, my other question about that, where is

33:01 Speaker 1: the best place for people to go online to keep

33:03 Speaker 1: up with everything that you guys are doing?

33:06 Speaker 9: Instagram's always good. We need to get to the modern

33:09 Speaker 9: world and develop a TikTok you know what I mean.

33:11 Speaker 10: We've got an account too much any streaming services, but

33:16 Speaker 10: the best one for now once we do this live

33:18 Speaker 10: session was make sure to keep an eye out on SoundCloud. Okay,

33:21 Speaker 10: the sound place, the really true underground sort of music,

33:24 Speaker 10: like you know what I mean. I've seen the recently

33:26 Speaker 10: did something where they're like helping to make certain artists

33:29 Speaker 10: to release records and singles and stuff.

33:31 Speaker 9: So they're doing something that's helping out with the industry.

33:34 Speaker 10: And yeah, there'll certainly be a few bits and bobs

33:36 Speaker 10: on there, but the Instagram, TikTok and the SoundCloud, and

33:39 Speaker 10: obviously you know what I mean, you can Spotify.

33:41 Speaker 1: Spot Yeah, outstanding, outstanding, Well, Evan and Jack. I want

33:46 Speaker 1: to thank both of you so much for joining us today.

33:48 Speaker 1: And in a moment, we're going to play this track

33:50 Speaker 1: All of the People, which is the first single. Anything

33:52 Speaker 1: we should know about this track, this is another really

33:54 Speaker 1: great song, and anything we should know about it or

33:57 Speaker 1: what it's about.

33:58 Speaker 10: Or anything, well, we know both of these songs at

34:01 Speaker 10: the same time about sixty seventeen, and they were all

34:03 Speaker 10: just kind of about you the age where you're.

34:06 Speaker 9: Sort of like so in swear about You Manchester, New.

34:08 Speaker 1: Hampshire, Manchester, New Hampshire.

34:11 Speaker 9: Yeah, so is is it's kind of it's legal over there.

34:16 Speaker 1: What say that again?

34:18 Speaker 9: Is the is like the album Mary Jane legal over there?

34:21 Speaker 1: Oh oh well, oh well, well okay, interesting interesting, uh

34:25 Speaker 1: interesting question because so, uh no, in in the state

34:29 Speaker 1: of New Hampshire. Now we're surrounded by places where it's legal,

34:32 Speaker 1: all the surrounding states and Canada, which borders us to

34:35 Speaker 1: our north, it is legal in New Hampshire. We have

34:38 Speaker 1: decrem decriminalization. So uh oh yeah, so we have that.

34:43 Speaker 1: It's sort of like a like a light legalization in

34:47 Speaker 1: a sense. We have medical it's.

34:49 Speaker 9: Very frowned upon. But yeah, for a period it was

34:51 Speaker 9: just a pound of like writing songs.

34:53 Speaker 10: Well when you were just sort of like looking around

34:55 Speaker 10: at people who just sort of maybe seem like didn't

34:57 Speaker 10: want you're there.

34:57 Speaker 9: You felt like you were.

34:58 Speaker 10: Sort of like trying to understand like of the roughness

35:01 Speaker 10: of life and the underground thing that obviously can be

35:04 Speaker 10: taboo to a lot of people, you know what I mean, Sure,

35:06 Speaker 10: but right and making sense of it before we truly

35:10 Speaker 10: understood it if you get what I mean.

35:11 Speaker 12: I do.

35:11 Speaker 1: I do. And by the way, uh, most according Topoling,

35:15 Speaker 1: most Americans seem to think that it should be fully

35:17 Speaker 1: legal here. Uh, we just happen to live in a

35:20 Speaker 1: state that's a little behind on that, one of the few.

35:23 Speaker 8: That's a little behind on it. Because the majority of

35:25 Speaker 8: the country is already there.

35:27 Speaker 1: That's true, a majority of the country is already there.

35:29 Speaker 10: So but yeah, those people out it doesn't make you

35:33 Speaker 10: like alcoholsh rouse you up.

35:35 Speaker 1: Oh yeah alcohol alcohol.

35:38 Speaker 8: State makes so much money off of alcohol.

35:41 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that they love.

35:45 Speaker 8: It's totally twisted.

35:46 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we have state liquor stores and the whole deal.

35:48 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's it's it's uh, there's a lot

35:52 Speaker 1: of there's a lot of things over here that are

35:54 Speaker 1: a little uh out of whack. But uh anyway, well

35:57 Speaker 1: guys again, Evan and Jack, thank you both so much.

36:00 Speaker 1: We're gonna hit this track and we'll let you go

36:01 Speaker 1: for now, but we will, uh, we'll definitely talk again

36:04 Speaker 1: in the near future because we want to. We're fans

36:06 Speaker 1: and we want to keep track of everything that you're doing.

36:07 Speaker 1: So we appreciate you joining us today.

36:10 Speaker 9: You for giving us.

36:12 Speaker 1: Appreciate it absolutely. Okay, thanks guys, take care.

36:16 Speaker 9: I listen to them all right.

36:19 Speaker 1: That was listen to the day I do too. Yeah.

36:23 Speaker 1: So that's Jack and Evan from the band scal. I

36:26 Speaker 1: was pronouncing it a little bit off, but we're gonna

36:29 Speaker 1: hit this track. This is called all of the People.

36:31 Speaker 1: This is uh, this is such a great song. Later

36:33 Speaker 1: in the show we'll probably play the Whites again to

36:35 Speaker 1: the newest single, but give this a spin. This is

36:38 Speaker 1: really good. All of the People. The band is scal.

37:01 Speaker 5: Only to how I do go An say suits shot

37:08 Speaker 5: speak shot. We'll go in boy to where we go.

37:21 Speaker 6: Bout me all season.

37:26 Speaker 8: Shot shoes.

37:27 Speaker 5: What you all as.

37:41 Speaker 6: Sign?

37:43 Speaker 5: My body is that?

37:45 Speaker 9: I said?

37:45 Speaker 5: Where sis the most always she's just lie?

37:54 Speaker 3: What's a game is before?

38:04 Speaker 5: Boss? What's you dont wants your brand?

38:23 Speaker 6: Mane soller pepall.

38:30 Speaker 5: See n s that Sali brand.

38:36 Speaker 9: Say go the wind.

38:42 Speaker 5: It's trolling its start times.

39:01 Speaker 6: I want to be born as you all you want

39:21 Speaker 6: nothing to do bad. I don't want to be like you.

39:26 Speaker 6: I recognize able from the persons.

39:31 Speaker 3: Should have known better.

39:34 Speaker 6: She's sounded for a while now, probably trying thought. I

39:40 Speaker 6: I don't want to make your sound, don't really shall

39:48 Speaker 6: your way chill had a long? Guy had a long?

39:56 Speaker 5: Guy?

40:00 Speaker 6: Oh Blady.

40:03 Speaker 5: That ain't long?

40:04 Speaker 6: God? How love can say? I ain't hit the reset,

40:14 Speaker 6: but I don't want to start. John that ain't no?

40:18 Speaker 3: Please like child, Please start like you was liked?

40:22 Speaker 6: Who wasn't what you want said? Don't like John is

40:26 Speaker 6: so we can't waste a minute.

40:29 Speaker 1: We want to waste some minutes Jays some.

40:32 Speaker 6: Man, don't wait, Joe, that ain't long, Guy that ain't long?

40:45 Speaker 6: My body art that ain't long?

40:50 Speaker 8: Guy that ain't.

41:02 Speaker 3: H I've got that sick Jim feeling what out of

41:11 Speaker 3: used to ealing?

41:12 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do.

41:15 Speaker 6: I still love be sup you.

41:18 Speaker 12: I got that sick jet figuring out right now?

41:21 Speaker 3: Antways, I don't know what sometime sell.

41:52 Speaker 6: No way, that ain't long Guy that long? God sat jem.

42:18 Speaker 9: Always to.

42:23 Speaker 1: Sell love that track so much that is called Piece

42:34 Speaker 1: of View. The band is Rivia, and you're gonna be

42:38 Speaker 1: hearing a lot more of them in the United States.

42:40 Speaker 1: Uh we are the This is the first American radio

42:43 Speaker 1: station and the first American radio show to play that song.

42:46 Speaker 1: But you're gonna be hearing it on radio stations across

42:49 Speaker 1: the country very soon, so uh, trust me on that.

42:52 Speaker 1: But a great, great track. I love that so much.

42:54 Speaker 1: Another great band from the UK. And of course before

42:57 Speaker 1: that we heard all of the people from skal And

42:59 Speaker 1: after our conversation with a couple of the guys from

43:02 Speaker 1: the band, Evan and Jack, and really enjoyed that a lot.

43:05 Speaker 1: And we'll probably play their newest single too again later

43:08 Speaker 1: in the show, So if you're listening live on Saturday morning,

43:11 Speaker 1: stick around. Also coming up in the second hour today,

43:14 Speaker 1: we have Charles Richardson from The Charles Richardson Show. And

43:17 Speaker 1: in the third hour Linda Avelinda and her new single

43:21 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk to her. Looking forward to

43:23 Speaker 1: that right now though, So let's see a little bit

43:27 Speaker 1: of music news here. This is from from NME dot com.

43:31 Speaker 1: Prince's estate responds to Apollonia's quote frivolous lawsuit. This I

43:37 Speaker 1: remember when when this first broke, this, this news about

43:42 Speaker 1: Apollonia Cato getting into a bit of a conflict there

43:46 Speaker 1: with about Paisley Park, the recording studio that Prince had

43:51 Speaker 1: on his estate. And you know, I've been a fan

43:54 Speaker 1: of so coincidentally, I won't I can't say who this

43:57 Speaker 1: individual is or how I know them. But Jenny, I

43:59 Speaker 1: think you'll know who I'm talking about. Yesterday I spent

44:02 Speaker 1: time with someone who he was wearing a shirt of

44:05 Speaker 1: Prince when Dove's Cry, yep, And I always compliment to

44:08 Speaker 1: mind whenever he wears that shirt. But but yeah, because

44:12 Speaker 1: when Doves Cry, when that was a big hit when

44:15 Speaker 1: when we were kids, and I would play that song

44:17 Speaker 1: over and over and over, and you know, huge, huge

44:19 Speaker 1: Prince fan. And I've seen Purple Rain. I don't know

44:22 Speaker 1: how many times because you know, it would be on

44:25 Speaker 1: HBO all the time and I would just watch it

44:27 Speaker 1: over and over and over. By the way, Pauly C

44:30 Speaker 1: from Retrospect Radio with poly C has never seen Purple Rain.

44:33 Speaker 1: Can you believe that?

44:34 Speaker 9: Says that?

44:34 Speaker 1: But he never watched I know he's never seen that.

44:37 Speaker 1: He's never seen this as spinal tap, he's missing out.

44:39 Speaker 1: But so this is the story from Enemy dot Com.

44:43 Speaker 1: Princess of State has responded to singer songwriter Apollonia's lawsuit,

44:47 Speaker 1: dismissing it as frivolous and unwarranted. The US artist, actor,

44:51 Speaker 1: and former model a real name Patricia Apollonia Catero, starred

44:56 Speaker 1: in Prince's classic nineteen eighty four film Purple Rain, portraying

45:00 Speaker 1: love interest who has the name Apollonia. She recently filed

45:04 Speaker 1: a fourteen page complaint against the late icons of state

45:07 Speaker 1: Paisley Park Enterprises in a Los Angeles federal court, accusing

45:11 Speaker 1: it of attempting to steal her name. Kataro claims in

45:15 Speaker 1: the suit that after appearing in Purple Reign, Prince never

45:19 Speaker 1: asked her to stop going by the name Apollonia and

45:22 Speaker 1: did not quote contend that the name did not belong

45:25 Speaker 1: to her, either personally or professionally unquote. She alleges it

45:30 Speaker 1: was on the contrary, and that quote Prince himself consented

45:33 Speaker 1: and encouraged Apollonia in her professional endeavors unquote. Under that name,

45:38 Speaker 1: Kataro has now used the name for over four decades

45:41 Speaker 1: and released numerous projects using the alias. Her legal team

45:45 Speaker 1: claims that Prince's estate was out of line when it

45:48 Speaker 1: tried to claim ownership of the Apollonia trademark in June.

45:53 Speaker 1: She alleges that the estate filed an intent to use

45:56 Speaker 1: application that would allow it to use the name in

45:58 Speaker 1: connection with clothing and entered atainment services. Kato also claims

46:02 Speaker 1: that Paisley Park Enterprises has made moves to try and

46:05 Speaker 1: cancel her trademark applications and registrations despite her being the

46:08 Speaker 1: rightful owner now the estate, by the way, this is

46:12 Speaker 1: a This is a different thing than what I the

46:15 Speaker 1: conflict I was referring to earlier, because prior to all

46:17 Speaker 1: of this, Apollonia was complaining about something else related to

46:22 Speaker 1: this organization and the Paisley Park recording studio. But apparently

46:26 Speaker 1: that's a completely separate thing. So I don't know whatever

46:28 Speaker 1: happened with that. I guess nothing, but this is this

46:30 Speaker 1: is interesting. So now the estate has responded via a

46:33 Speaker 1: written statement posted on Prince's official social media channels. Quote. Regrettably,

46:38 Speaker 1: Miss Patti Kato aka Apolonia filed a frivolous lawsuit, as

46:43 Speaker 1: she acknowledges Apollonia is the name Prince gave to the

46:46 Speaker 1: character played by Miss Kataro in Prince's movie Purple Rain

46:49 Speaker 1: over forty years ago. We never instructed her to cease

46:52 Speaker 1: using her adopted professional name, nor did we object to

46:55 Speaker 1: her business activities. In fact, we repeatedly offered her opportunities

46:59 Speaker 1: to perform at Paisley Park using this professional name. Unquote,

47:05 Speaker 1: So wait, can we mention the.

47:07 Speaker 8: Fact that he didn't come up with it out of

47:08 Speaker 8: thin air. It's her middle name. Yeah, her middle name

47:11 Speaker 8: is with the name right right, Yeah, And the way

47:15 Speaker 8: they're talking about it really galls me because it's like,

47:19 Speaker 8: do you remember when when Prince was in a fight

47:23 Speaker 8: with the label and he wrote slave across his cheek

47:26 Speaker 8: and he wouldn't use the name Prince because of the

47:29 Speaker 8: way they were.

47:30 Speaker 1: Using his name. Yeah, he became an unpronounceable symbol. Yes,

47:33 Speaker 1: and the artist formerly known as the same.

47:35 Speaker 8: Damn thing being done in reverse to her, Well, it's

47:38 Speaker 8: her middle name. He didn't pull it out of thin air. No, Yes,

47:42 Speaker 8: he named the character that, but it's.

47:43 Speaker 1: Her right well. But the other weird thing is they're

47:46 Speaker 1: they're claiming they never told her not to use the name.

47:49 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't know what the hang up

47:51 Speaker 1: is here. There's more than this article, But I wonder

47:54 Speaker 1: if maybe there's a matter of how she uses the name.

47:58 Speaker 8: Yeah, but they've gotten in the way of her trying

48:00 Speaker 8: to trademark it herself her own name.

48:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yeah, that's that's that's true, right. She wants

48:08 Speaker 1: to be able to own the name. It says here. Also, uh, oh, this.

48:14 Speaker 8: Is also Remember they said that they that the name

48:17 Speaker 8: doesn't belong to her personally or professionally. It's her middle name.

48:23 Speaker 8: How does that not belong to her personally?

48:26 Speaker 1: There are exceptions of trademark law and copyright law and

48:30 Speaker 1: intellectual property. It's all very fascinating to me.

48:32 Speaker 13: But there's there say it doesn't belong to her, but

48:34 Speaker 13: there's there's but there are there are exceptions, just as

48:37 Speaker 13: a random example, because Hall and Oates, for example, they

48:39 Speaker 13: recently settled, uh they finally.

48:43 Speaker 1: Through arbitration, they settled their whole legal dispute. But so

48:46 Speaker 1: let's say, for example, your name is Daryl Hall and

48:49 Speaker 1: you have a friend named John Oates, and you decide

48:51 Speaker 1: you're going to form a musical duo and go out

48:53 Speaker 1: and perform, and those are your real names. It doesn't matter.

48:56 Speaker 1: You're still going to get slapped down for that, you

48:59 Speaker 1: know what I mean?

49:00 Speaker 8: Okay, But that's different. That's something happening after the fact.

49:04 Speaker 8: The creation of Apollonia, the character came.

49:07 Speaker 1: In part out of her, right, Well, I'll tell you, yeah,

49:11 Speaker 1: he named.

49:11 Speaker 8: The character after he cast her, not before. He didn't

49:15 Speaker 8: come up with the name Apollonia and then go oh, Look,

49:17 Speaker 8: I found a chick who has the Apollodia middle name.

49:19 Speaker 8: That's not what happened. I met her, wanted to cast

49:22 Speaker 8: her and then name the character her middle name.

49:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know what Prince's long term intentions

49:28 Speaker 1: were with that, but I do know it can get complicated.

49:31 Speaker 1: Dealing with Prince was complicated because Morris Day, of Morris

49:35 Speaker 1: Day in the Time. Sure, he's talked about that, how

49:38 Speaker 1: difficult that was, because you know, so you watch, you

49:42 Speaker 1: watch the movie, and of course Morris Day on the

49:44 Speaker 1: Time is one of the bands in the movie. And

49:46 Speaker 1: then but if you do some digging, you find out

49:50 Speaker 1: that was really Prince's band. You know, he put he

49:53 Speaker 1: put those guys together, Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis, who

49:57 Speaker 1: went on to become very successful producers. Uh they produced

50:01 Speaker 1: Janet Jackson and stuff. But they were also a part

50:02 Speaker 1: of that band along with Morris Day. That that was

50:05 Speaker 1: the time, that was Prince's creation. And then and then

50:09 Speaker 1: so Morris Day had problems with you know, so later on,

50:13 Speaker 1: years after Purple Rain, he's trying to tour as Purple Rain.

50:16 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, as Purple He's trying to tour

50:18 Speaker 1: as Morris Day on the Time and he's he's got

50:21 Speaker 1: he's getting a hard time about it.

50:22 Speaker 8: Mix because if she was trying to use Apollonius, no, no, no,

50:26 Speaker 8: I'm not, I'm not which was her, But now I'm

50:28 Speaker 8: a c No, I'm just saying. All I'm saying is

50:30 Speaker 8: it's comp Dealing with Prince was complicated. That was That

50:33 Speaker 8: was my only point.

50:34 Speaker 1: That's true.

50:35 Speaker 8: It is true. But it is interesting that you bring

50:37 Speaker 8: that up because he did create the Time, just like

50:39 Speaker 8: he did create Apollonius, which was.

50:43 Speaker 1: Her with two other cars, which had three people in it,

50:45 Speaker 1: which was was so weird.

50:47 Speaker 8: Right, six but three people and you know, and that

50:51 Speaker 8: was his creation, and that was music he created. Yeah,

50:56 Speaker 8: her in the name Apollonia, I'm sorry, it's her middle name.

51:02 Speaker 8: Let her use her dang name. Are trying to use Apollonius. No,

51:06 Speaker 8: but they're stopping own her own name, And that I

51:11 Speaker 8: find I find is really upsetting to me because it

51:14 Speaker 8: completely flies in the face of what Prince did in

51:18 Speaker 8: his time to have ownership of himself and what he

51:23 Speaker 8: did to teach the music world about ownership of self,

51:27 Speaker 8: ownership of artistry.

51:28 Speaker 7: Right.

51:29 Speaker 8: The whole that went on for like how many How

51:30 Speaker 8: long did that go on?

51:31 Speaker 1: Was it two years longer than that?

51:34 Speaker 6: That went on?

51:35 Speaker 8: That he was fighting with them to own himself, and

51:38 Speaker 8: that's what he was fighting for. This is to me,

51:40 Speaker 8: this is this is the same damn thing. It's her

51:42 Speaker 8: middle name, it's her name. Right, he can pull it

51:46 Speaker 8: out of thin air. He named the character after her.

51:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, right.

51:51 Speaker 8: She should get to use it. She should be able

51:52 Speaker 8: to own them saying that them them saying she has

51:56 Speaker 8: no ownership to no right to it, personally or professionally.

52:02 Speaker 8: The personally really gets me. Because it's her middle name.

52:05 Speaker 8: She has every right to it. I don't know how

52:07 Speaker 8: many people I've met in my lifetime that go by

52:09 Speaker 8: their middle name, or like parents, especially like guys who

52:14 Speaker 8: have sons named Junior. Instead of calling him Junior, they

52:16 Speaker 8: might call him David the middle name, or instead of

52:18 Speaker 8: little Bill and big Bill. You know exactly exactly. They

52:23 Speaker 8: should let her own her own dang name. They shouldn't

52:26 Speaker 8: be so selfish and new sides of fact, why are

52:29 Speaker 8: you paying so much attention to this princess state? How

52:31 Speaker 8: about the eight thousand or whatever songs you got in

52:33 Speaker 8: that vault? You got enough music in that vault to

52:36 Speaker 8: be releasing an album like every year for the rest

52:39 Speaker 8: of my life and beyond. So why aren't you concentrating

52:42 Speaker 8: on that. You've got a ton of money making material.

52:45 Speaker 1: Leave her alone.

52:46 Speaker 8: Let her own her dang name. That's my opinion on it.

52:49 Speaker 1: Well, the other thing, too is I don't know from

52:52 Speaker 1: their I mean, I guess they're going to I guess

52:57 Speaker 1: their attitude is they're going to defend the intellectual property

53:01 Speaker 1: of quote unquote the estate, no matter what, and and

53:05 Speaker 1: but and I understand that from a legal perspective to

53:08 Speaker 1: a point. But at the same time, what value.

53:11 Speaker 8: Like sexual property?

53:13 Speaker 1: He no, no, no, But I'm just saying, though, from

53:17 Speaker 1: a financial standpoint, like what value is that name? Specifically

53:22 Speaker 1: in terms of market Like what are you marketing where

53:25 Speaker 1: you're making money off of the name Apollonia?

53:27 Speaker 6: You know what?

53:29 Speaker 8: They refer to her as Patty.

53:31 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I noticed that. I noticed that.

53:33 Speaker 8: Patricia appolonial Kato because it's not going to use the

53:36 Speaker 8: whole name if you don't want you, They don't want

53:38 Speaker 8: you the public to know that that's actually her middle name.

53:41 Speaker 8: People believe that he pulled it out of thin air

53:43 Speaker 8: and named her. Yeah, most people, you know that's what

53:47 Speaker 8: people think I would be. I would, I would, I

53:51 Speaker 8: would go out on a limit, say that probably eighty

53:52 Speaker 8: percent of the American public believes that Prince pulled the

53:55 Speaker 8: name out of thin air and that's where the name

53:57 Speaker 8: came from, not that it was actually her middle right.

54:01 Speaker 8: And know that for them to I just seriously, they

54:04 Speaker 8: have so much money already and there so much material

54:08 Speaker 8: to make billions of dollars more. How much money do

54:12 Speaker 8: you need, grotesque creed? Let the child have her name?

54:17 Speaker 1: No, I agree with you? Uh, they say too. In

54:20 Speaker 1: their statement the lawyers for the estate quote Misscataro's unwarranted

54:23 Speaker 1: lawsuit comes at the tail end of years long disputes

54:26 Speaker 1: before the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board concerning trademark registrations,

54:30 Speaker 1: in which rulings are imminent and with respect to which

54:33 Speaker 1: we have sought a settlement numerous times despite her highly

54:36 Speaker 1: unreasonable demands. Unsurprisingly, her suit fails to acknowledge the cancelation

54:40 Speaker 1: of her Apollonia registration by the United States Patent and

54:44 Speaker 1: Trademark Office. We look forward to the rulings in the

54:47 Speaker 1: pending trademark proceedings and a dismissal of Miss Kato's recent

54:51 Speaker 1: federal action. As is as is our duty, we will

54:54 Speaker 1: continue to protect and preserve Prince's assets and legacy.

54:57 Speaker 8: Unquot prime me a river with that bowl of a

55:00 Speaker 8: of malaccy Seriously, I bet you money that they had

55:04 Speaker 8: something to do with the cancelation of that trademark.

55:08 Speaker 1: I don't know.

55:09 Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe they won't leave her alone to have it.

55:12 Speaker 8: They're claiming her frivolous. I call you frivolous, Princess State.

55:17 Speaker 1: Leave her alone.

55:18 Speaker 8: Let her have her middle name, let her live it's

55:20 Speaker 8: her name.

55:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, leave her.

55:23 Speaker 8: You know they made that character together, utilizing her middle name.

55:26 Speaker 1: Leave them both alone.

55:27 Speaker 8: You've got tons of money to make in that vault.

55:29 Speaker 8: Oh my god, Like, really, what if they released from

55:31 Speaker 8: the vault anything nothing? And they have how many late

55:36 Speaker 8: thousands and thousands. There's so business closively, so much music

55:40 Speaker 8: in there that they could quite literally release songs for

55:45 Speaker 8: the rest of my life and not run out and

55:49 Speaker 8: your life probably and not run out. He has so

55:52 Speaker 8: much material in there, and they've all admitted to it,

55:55 Speaker 8: but they're sitting on it like you want to make money,

55:56 Speaker 8: there you go, you gotta you got a vault full

55:59 Speaker 8: of probably a billion dollars, not not even exaggerating, right,

56:06 Speaker 8: go do that?

56:07 Speaker 1: Why this?

56:08 Speaker 9: Yeah?

56:08 Speaker 1: Why this? Why are we being so petty?

56:11 Speaker 6: I know?

56:13 Speaker 1: Well on that note, it is almost to top the r.

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