Field Dispatch
Matt Connarton Unleashed 8-24-25
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome. It is Matt Connorton Unleashed, the AF
Speaker 2: version of the show. This one is strictly online where
Speaker 2: we can say anything we want to about anything we
Speaker 2: want to Welcome everybody. I am Matt Connerton and of
Speaker 2: course Jenna's with me as well, or Jen Coffee or Jenny,
Speaker 2: however you want to call her how you want to
Speaker 2: be called.
Speaker 3: I am present and accounted for. You can call me
Speaker 3: Jen or Jenny or hate you whatever works.
Speaker 2: On this Sunday afternoon. It is Sunday, August twenty four,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. We are streaming the show live. Of course,
Speaker 2: this will be in the podcast feed immediately afterward. But
Speaker 2: we'll see if anyone wants to chime in, if anyone
Speaker 2: wants to pop in live with us in the chat room,
Speaker 2: if you do post something, I will try to read
Speaker 2: your comment on air if you do join us during
Speaker 2: the live stream. But yeah, we were gonna do tough
Speaker 2: Bumps with Eric Pilcher, but Eric's got a little bit
Speaker 2: of a situation he's dealing with, so I'm sure later
Speaker 2: in the week and I do have something though to
Speaker 2: mention and Jenny, I don't think I even told you
Speaker 2: this yet. Tomorrow after five pm, it might might be
Speaker 2: right out five. I'm not sure someone from the band
Speaker 2: Visus Inc. Is going to get on a stream with
Speaker 2: me and we're gonna talk about Vices Fest. We talked
Speaker 2: about it yesterday ye on the radio show.
Speaker 4: No you did not tell me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna get on with me tomorrow
Speaker 2: to talk about it. It's, you know, obviously too late
Speaker 2: to get them in on the radio show that we
Speaker 2: do on Saturdays from wmn H. But I said, you know,
Speaker 2: let's do a stream talk about it. They they did
Speaker 2: very graciously invite us to join them, but it's, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like I said, it's really hard for us to
Speaker 2: get away. It's, you know, the festival. It's Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 2: I'm on the air Friday night, Saturday morning, we have
Speaker 2: the radio show, and then there's always a lot going on.
Speaker 2: Our weekends are very very busy. So but I did suggest,
Speaker 2: I said, if you want to hop on a podcast
Speaker 2: with me, we can do the podcast version of the
Speaker 2: show and talk about everything, talk about you know, the festival,
Speaker 2: Vices Inc. They've got. If you go to vicesfest dot com,
Speaker 2: they've got the full lineup there and they've got a
Speaker 2: lot of great bands. A lot of the bands that
Speaker 2: are on the list that are on the schedule for
Speaker 2: vices Inc. This year for vices Fest, to be specific,
Speaker 2: is a lot of them are bands that we've had
Speaker 2: on the show recently, or or a couple of them
Speaker 2: a while ago, but a lot of them have been
Speaker 2: within the last year. So a lot of amazing, amazing talent.
Speaker 2: And there's also a few bands in there who we
Speaker 2: have not had on the show yet, but I'm sure
Speaker 2: that we will in the future because they're names that
Speaker 2: we've definitely heard about. So that will be Monday, I
Speaker 2: believe Monday at five pm Eastern, we're gonna jump on
Speaker 2: a live stream with vices Zinc. And then of course
Speaker 2: that'll be up and available in the podcast. And I
Speaker 2: know they want to give away some tickets too.
Speaker 4: Excellent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll figure out, we'll see how we can
Speaker 2: do that. We'll figure that out. But anyway, so and
Speaker 2: by the way, if you missed this weekend's radio show,
Speaker 2: of course, Matt Connorton Unleashed is a live every Saturday
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Speaker 2: our own, which is why we're able to be completely
Speaker 2: uncensored because it is strictly online and we can talk
Speaker 2: about any anything we want to.
Speaker 4: It can say anything we want to.
Speaker 2: We can say anything we want.
Speaker 4: To, like shit my favorite word.
Speaker 2: We can we can use that word here. Yes, we
Speaker 2: cannot use that on the radio version of the show.
Speaker 4: I like that word. Yes, a lot of my speeches.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh, we should mention too before we get to
Speaker 2: the main subject that we were going to discuss. You
Speaker 2: were you got to speaking of speeches and that that's
Speaker 2: what reminded me. You gave a speech recently.
Speaker 4: I did, Oh, yes, I did.
Speaker 3: I yes, I was happy to be at Karishma Monshore's
Speaker 3: announcement Wednesday evening, when she announced that she was officially
Speaker 3: running for Congress. She is excuse me, for Senate Federal Senate.
Speaker 3: She is running for the seat being vacated by Jean Shaheen,
Speaker 3: who is retiring. There will be a primary in this obviously.
Speaker 3: I like her for a number of reasons. First and foremost,
Speaker 3: she's a scientist who has spent her life working on
Speaker 3: medical research to try and find cures to some of
Speaker 3: the worst diseases in the world. So she's a science
Speaker 3: minded individual who has a doctorate degree, who has spent
Speaker 3: her life in service to others, trying to save their lives.
Speaker 3: And I need somebody like that in office because I'm
Speaker 3: overwhelmed with people in office who could care less.
Speaker 4: About human lives.
Speaker 3: If you can't make the money and you can't serve them,
Speaker 3: you have no purpose. And I need those people out,
Speaker 3: and I need people who have empathy and compassion and
Speaker 3: give a shit about the work in American and the
Speaker 3: working class American who's busting their ass and barely being
Speaker 3: able to scrape by right now. And I feel confident
Speaker 3: that somebody who has spent their life doing that is
Speaker 3: going to look at legislation through that lens, and I
Speaker 3: don't want a lawyer. I don't want a career politician,
Speaker 3: bullshit artists. I need somebody in that seat who was
Speaker 3: going to vote for the people first. And that's why
Speaker 3: I decided to support and endorse Charisma as a former
Speaker 3: New Hampshire State representative, myself more importantly, as a New
Speaker 3: Hampshire citizen. It's these next elections are going to be
Speaker 3: vital for so many reasons, and healthcare being predominantly one
Speaker 3: of the most important things, because without your health, you
Speaker 3: have nothing else. I had a wonderful career. I owned
Speaker 3: a house, I had over five acres of land. I
Speaker 3: never made a mortgage payment late, you know.
Speaker 4: I was that person.
Speaker 3: I made every car payment on time, I paid every
Speaker 3: bill on time. But when I got my second round
Speaker 3: of cancer, it did me in and I lost everything.
Speaker 3: So if you think this can't happen to you, it
Speaker 3: certainly can.
Speaker 4: And I worked.
Speaker 3: Multiple jobs, and all of my jobs were in medicine
Speaker 3: for my entire adult life.
Speaker 4: Basically, I mean I started out in medicine. I think
Speaker 4: I was I want to say I was twenty two
Speaker 4: maybe give or take.
Speaker 3: And that's what I did my entire life, so I
Speaker 3: wasn't somebody who was screwing around. I didn't drink hardly ever,
Speaker 3: because I was always working, Like you can't work in
Speaker 3: medicine and function and do anything like that. So I
Speaker 3: never drank. I wasn't a partier. When I was home,
Speaker 3: I was mostly sleeping. I did nights for seventeen years.
Speaker 3: I pulled twenty four hour shifts. So this shit happens,
Speaker 3: and it happens to the best of us. You know,
Speaker 3: I watched the man in Washington, d C. I know
Speaker 3: we were diverting a little bit. But when I went
Speaker 3: to Washington, d C. During a period of time when
Speaker 3: actually a Trump appointee was in charge of overseeing all
Speaker 3: of America's how basically kind of how America's finances work
Speaker 3: in conjunction with consumers and making sure that consumer rights
Speaker 3: are protected, and they were invoking creating a law that
Speaker 3: was to say that medical debt could not be put
Speaker 3: on your credit report at the federal level. Create this
Speaker 3: law cannot be put on your credit report because it
Speaker 3: is devastating and the best this And when I went
Speaker 3: to see this get announced, they had people who were
Speaker 3: sharing stories and the one that really struck me the
Speaker 3: most was a gentleman who was probably.
Speaker 4: He must have been in his seventies.
Speaker 3: Worked his whole life, had a house, had eight fifty credit,
Speaker 3: paid everything on time his entire life, and he got
Speaker 3: sick and ended up with these enormous medical bills.
Speaker 4: Now, this guy had fourteen medical.
Speaker 3: Bills and he had arranged and was making payments on
Speaker 3: every fricking one of them, and trying like hell to
Speaker 3: make payments on every single bill. It wasn't he wasn't
Speaker 3: ignoring it. He was trying, he was working, he was
Speaker 3: trying really hard. And then the car that they were using,
Speaker 3: so wait a minute.
Speaker 4: So he ends up.
Speaker 3: Not being able to balance the fourteen bills with everything else,
Speaker 3: and it goes on his credit report and focks his
Speaker 3: credit up. So he's driving back and forth for like
Speaker 3: an it takes like an hour away to go for
Speaker 3: his cancer treatments, and the car they're using to get
Speaker 3: to those treatments, all the miles, all the driving, it
Speaker 3: caught up and the car was dyet and they needed
Speaker 3: a new car. And this man who had eight to
Speaker 3: fifty credit now had shit and he couldn't qualify for
Speaker 3: our car loan for even a used car to replace
Speaker 3: the car that he needed to get to treatment to
Speaker 3: stay alive.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 3: He did everything the way that America tells him to,
Speaker 3: paid in his entire life, paid his housep did everything right,
Speaker 3: but he got sick and it ruined his life. It
Speaker 3: stole everything from this family. And and just just to
Speaker 3: put a button on that just recently that that that's
Speaker 3: been rescinded. It's it's from it's not happening. Medical debt
Speaker 3: can continue to go on your credit report. The Trump
Speaker 3: regime's reversed that, of course, even though it was a
Speaker 3: trumpet points because it was decided under the Biden administration.
Speaker 3: Of course, no good anything that happened into Biden is
Speaker 3: just no good.
Speaker 2: Well and and it's it's an opportunity to hurt people.
Speaker 2: So and that's and Maga loves hurting people.
Speaker 3: And it doesn't make any sense to me. I don't
Speaker 3: understand why you want to ruin people's lives, like.
Speaker 2: Because they can, because they get off on it, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, let's just call it what it is. You
Speaker 2: know a lot of people like to well, you know,
Speaker 2: you have to be respectful and have dialogue and everything.
Speaker 2: But we also need to call shit what it is.
Speaker 2: There's there's a cruelty built into mega, but there's also
Speaker 2: a general a broader in a broader sense. I've always
Speaker 2: felt this way. There is a cruelty built into conservatism.
Speaker 2: Conservatism as an ideology has a certain cruelty to it. Uh,
Speaker 2: they don't see it that way. Conservatives don't see it
Speaker 2: that way until something happens to them.
Speaker 3: That's the only way they's You made your bed, you
Speaker 3: lie in it.
Speaker 2: That's right, right, because that's what a conservative would say,
Speaker 2: or a conservative would say to the sick person who
Speaker 2: who is now who is so buried in medical debt
Speaker 2: and now can't qualify for a car loan, Well, you
Speaker 2: got to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. That's what
Speaker 2: a conservative would say.
Speaker 3: Take a second mortgage out, Take a mortgage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: You know, because we got to make sure that that
Speaker 3: hospital ceo who's getting a five mili a year's salary
Speaker 3: never mind is bonuses and benefits, packages and everything. And
Speaker 3: trust me, he doesn't worry about covids no, I yeah,
Speaker 3: he's got to get his due.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, I mean it's it's another argument for
Speaker 2: single pair. You know, if we had single payer in
Speaker 2: this country where you know, you're everything was just covered automatically.
Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm not talking about because you
Speaker 2: know the response that people who oppose that will say, oh, well,
Speaker 2: I don't want a government takeover of health care. No,
Speaker 2: neither do I don't want the government to take over
Speaker 2: healthcare especial. Right, that's different. I just want single payer.
Speaker 2: So then just get rid of the insurance companies. And
Speaker 2: then people will say, well, I don't want my money
Speaker 2: to pay for somebody else's health care. Well, that's what
Speaker 2: insurance is.
Speaker 4: Well's how it works.
Speaker 2: That's how insurance. So you're already doing that. You and
Speaker 2: everybody else in the pool is already paying for everybody
Speaker 2: else who's in the pool.
Speaker 4: That's how it works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you had single if you had single pair,
Speaker 2: all this all this other ship would go away, medical debt,
Speaker 2: ruining people's lives. Your your employer because people say, well,
Speaker 2: how would we pay for that if the government pays
Speaker 2: for it, Well, that's easy. Now your employer doesn't have
Speaker 2: to pay for it anymore. So now your employer, if
Speaker 2: you had single payer, and your employer didn't have to
Speaker 2: deduct money from your paycheck every week to pay for
Speaker 2: your health insurance. That's how you pay for it. It's not
Speaker 2: like I'm not even good at math and I can
Speaker 2: figure this out. Like it's actually really easy. The money's
Speaker 2: already being spent. Just let's spend it in a way
Speaker 2: that doesn't fuck people, you know.
Speaker 4: And spend it more.
Speaker 3: And you talk about and see and Republicans claim to
Speaker 3: be fiscally conservative, but they're not because they're.
Speaker 4: Not the problem.
Speaker 2: They're dishonest.
Speaker 3: Currently, in order to meet those salaries and what have you,
Speaker 3: everybody has these ginormous insurance departments and billing departments that
Speaker 3: have to do all of these different forms and different
Speaker 3: and then they have to do appeals and if things
Speaker 3: get denied, and it goes this whole back and forth
Speaker 3: and you get a prior authorization back and forth, back
Speaker 3: and forth. All these bullshit jobs that don't need to exist. Right,
Speaker 3: So that's the money you don't need to spend. I've
Speaker 3: witnessed it personally in my face, up close and personal.
Speaker 3: I went to the Netherlands. I saw a society that
Speaker 3: has national health care. Everybody pays a flat rate every
Speaker 3: month and it's like one hundred and something dollars. It's
Speaker 3: not even like what we pay. My mom was paying
Speaker 3: eight hundred dollars a month for her health insurance in Massachusetts,
Speaker 3: and that was just to get it. She still had copays,
Speaker 3: and she still had a deductible, and it was a
Speaker 3: huge deductible.
Speaker 4: And that's why she got.
Speaker 3: Her entire MRI bill handed to her on a silver platter.
Speaker 3: Because she had to meet her deductible. She had to
Speaker 3: pay the entire bill. That's how our system currently works.
Speaker 3: In a system like we're discussing, you pay your flat rate,
Speaker 3: it goes into the we'll use Medicare. It goes into Medicare.
Speaker 3: Your doctor submits to build the Medicare. Medicare pays the
Speaker 3: bill just like it does now. There's no argument, no muscle,
Speaker 3: no fuss. Everything's done appropriately, and Medicare has rules they
Speaker 3: have to follow and they can't fuck around and they
Speaker 3: got to follow the rules. So an industry is still
Speaker 3: privately owned hospitals or doctor's offices. It's not owned by
Speaker 3: the government, it's not run by the government. It's simply healthcare.
Speaker 3: And now it's healthcare that's one hundred percent being funded
Speaker 3: for the people in patient care.
Speaker 4: If the hospital.
Speaker 3: Doesn't have to have thirty employees in the billing department
Speaker 3: to deal with at a Blue Cross fill in your
Speaker 3: blank insurance, they just have to build medicare and then
Speaker 3: get paid.
Speaker 4: That's not thirty employees.
Speaker 2: It's better for everybody, everybody.
Speaker 4: So where's that money going.
Speaker 3: Then it's going into having better patient access, So it's
Speaker 3: going into having machines that are upgraded. It's going into
Speaker 3: having no low stock on supplies.
Speaker 4: I cannot tell you. I worked at ICUCCU, I worked
Speaker 4: in er cardiology.
Speaker 3: I can tell you right now there's not a single
Speaker 3: department that doesn't end up with something they fucking run
Speaker 3: out of that they shouldn't have. There are a hospital,
Speaker 3: But this is what happens in the way we've built society.
Speaker 3: In my buddies, he's a stage four cancer patient who
Speaker 3: I will tell you would be dead if he was
Speaker 3: in the United States.
Speaker 4: There's no fucking way, no doubt.
Speaker 3: He his doctor goes to the doctors, they estice levels,
Speaker 3: doctor orders a medication, medication gets or from the pharmacy,
Speaker 3: it's delivered and he gets it.
Speaker 4: And that's the fucking end of the story.
Speaker 3: Nobody's getting in the way and telling you questioning whether
Speaker 3: or not your doctor's correct.
Speaker 4: On diagnosing you.
Speaker 3: And here's another one for you, backwards medicine of American society.
Speaker 4: Bring you hurt your shoulder? It hurts when I do this,
Speaker 4: doc in the Netherlands.
Speaker 3: Let's go take a picture, see what's going on in
Speaker 3: there in America.
Speaker 4: Or go to physical therapy first.
Speaker 3: First, I'm going to send you somewhere to manipulate the
Speaker 3: joint and fuck around without taking an image, without having
Speaker 3: a clue what the hell's going on inside of you.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna do it. They did that with me,
Speaker 3: and I had three cervical discs that were herniated and
Speaker 3: were literally moved my spinal cord, literally moved my spinal cord.
Speaker 3: But before we got those images to know that was there,
Speaker 3: I went to physical therapy for six weeks.
Speaker 2: That must be. That must be where that old joke
Speaker 2: comes from. You know, the guy goes to the doctor
Speaker 2: and says, doc, it hurts when I do this, and
Speaker 2: the doctor says, well, don't do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: If you have if you have single payer, and just
Speaker 2: just all the bullshit goes away and it's and it
Speaker 2: and it just is better for everyone and again and.
Speaker 4: Back on the patient and not on the profits.
Speaker 2: And this is something you know, and I always complain.
Speaker 2: I complain about it a lot on the show that
Speaker 2: I do with Todd uh hanging left. You know, Democrats
Speaker 2: are terrible at messaging because they're right, they're correct on
Speaker 2: the policy on this, but they're so bad at messaging.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I've heard Bernie say it, but
Speaker 2: I don't know why Democrats don't. They should constantly every
Speaker 2: time this subject comes up, talk about all the stuff
Speaker 2: that they they talk about and how it would be
Speaker 2: better for people. But also Democrats need to remember to
Speaker 2: say this part. If we have this system instead, if
Speaker 2: we have single payer, your employer no longer has to
Speaker 2: deduct that from your page, so that.
Speaker 4: That's more money, match it more.
Speaker 2: Money for you, right, and then you so you're not
Speaker 2: paying for it anymore and your employer isn't paying for
Speaker 2: it anymore. So that needs to be the response when
Speaker 2: someone says, well, how are we going to pay for
Speaker 2: all this? That's easy. You're already paying for it.
Speaker 4: And it's not going to cost an I'm in a
Speaker 4: leg like it does now because the hospitals and.
Speaker 6: The clinics and the doctor's office won't have the exorbitant
Speaker 6: money that they have to spend constantly on the phone
Speaker 6: with the insurance companies trying to get prior approval codes
Speaker 6: and trying and having peer to peer reviews and.
Speaker 4: Going through appeals department.
Speaker 3: I had a provider who at one point before they
Speaker 3: went into total private practice, they were in with a
Speaker 3: group of other providers and they had to hire an
Speaker 3: employee to do nothing all day, every day, Monday through Friday.
Speaker 4: But blue cross blue shield denials of care.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how expensive is that that employee? That hourly salary,
Speaker 3: social Security matching, the Medicare matching the health insurance, vacation time,
Speaker 3: six time, all of that for that employee to do
Speaker 3: nothing all day, every day, but appeals insurance companies. Let
Speaker 3: me let me make sure I say this, health insurance
Speaker 3: companies serve no purpose and have zero zero effect to
Speaker 3: increasing positive outcomes and healthcare. Give me any case, any
Speaker 3: medical case, and I challenge you to show me where
Speaker 3: the insurance company improved the outcome of that patient. If
Speaker 3: it's not a Cadillac policy that belongs to one of
Speaker 3: the freaking congress people, right, or some ceo who has
Speaker 3: a catalc. I'm talking about the same health insurance companies.
Speaker 4: That you and I and everybody else in the working.
Speaker 3: Class get those policies with the deductibles and the copase
Speaker 3: and the in network and the added network and all
Speaker 3: the bulshit just to get the medical care you need.
Speaker 3: The stress of loan cuts our life expectancy down. And
Speaker 3: that's exactly what they want. They only want us on
Speaker 3: the planet long enough to make them money and to
Speaker 3: serve them. And when that's not going to happen anymore,
Speaker 3: it's better for them if we kick off right.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the other thing too that people need to
Speaker 2: say more. I say it all the time, but this
Speaker 2: is something that people need to repeat over and over
Speaker 2: again until everyone understands this. The insurance company they only
Speaker 2: want you. They only want you on one of their
Speaker 2: plans for as long as they're able to make money
Speaker 2: from you, from your monthly premiums, from whatever they get
Speaker 2: from your employer, whatever that money is. As long as
Speaker 2: you are profitable for them, they want to cover you.
Speaker 2: Once you get sick, and you get sick enough that
Speaker 2: you begin to cost them money. Now you're no longer
Speaker 2: an asset. Now you're a liability. Let's be very blunt.
Speaker 2: Need to speak very bluntly about this. The insurance company,
Speaker 2: once you go from being an asset to a liability,
Speaker 2: the insurance company wants you to die. That sounds stark,
Speaker 2: but that is the truth because once you are dead,
Speaker 2: you no longer cost them money. So once you get
Speaker 2: sick with something, they would prefer that you die. And
Speaker 2: if they can help you to die by denying you
Speaker 2: the healthcare that you need even though you fucking pay
Speaker 2: for it. If they can find some way to deny
Speaker 2: you that healthcare to help you to die, they will
Speaker 2: gladly help you to die. They want you to die
Speaker 2: as soon as you are costing them money instead of
Speaker 2: making them money. That's the problem. And look, I'm a capitalist, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is coming from a capitalist, but this is the
Speaker 2: problem with for profit healthcare. They would rather you die
Speaker 2: than cost them money. That is a fact, so.
Speaker 3: Right, And that's partially why the narrative that they're putting
Speaker 3: out there now is when they talk about.
Speaker 4: Medicare, they call it an entitlement.
Speaker 3: When they talk about Social Security, they're calling it an entitlement.
Speaker 3: And we've got you know, it's all on umpteen videos
Speaker 3: of them saying this shit, and it's not an entitlement.
Speaker 3: These are insurance programs that you and I pay into
Speaker 3: our whole efort lives.
Speaker 4: From the minute you start paying taxes, you stop paying.
Speaker 3: In Medicare and Social Security and Disability Social Security Disability
Speaker 3: Insurance s sd EYE is insurance.
Speaker 4: We pay for it for the just in case, just
Speaker 4: like you do at your job.
Speaker 3: I have a long term disability private insurance, and we
Speaker 3: have a public Social Security disability insurance. These are the
Speaker 3: things that you pay for so that when it happens,
Speaker 3: if it happens to you, you have that to depend
Speaker 3: on and you bust your ass and you pay into
Speaker 3: it in every fucking paycheck.
Speaker 4: Every job I had, I paid in every paycheck.
Speaker 3: They got their cut, and if I made a lot
Speaker 3: of more, if I got overtime, they took a bigger
Speaker 3: fucking cut. Sometimes working overtime wasn't even worth it because
Speaker 3: they would take it all in taxes. You get in
Speaker 3: that spot where right here, I can make a little
Speaker 3: more money, but if I work X number of hours
Speaker 3: they take so much in taxes. I didn't end up
Speaker 3: getting home with fucking anything. Or until you get to
Speaker 3: the next bracket. You might get to keep a little more.
Speaker 3: You have to really kill yourself to see that in
Speaker 3: your paycheck.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, should we move on to the uh, yes,
Speaker 2: to the main subject that we were going to talk
Speaker 2: about today. So the other thing is h Trump is
Speaker 2: now threatening to send National Guard, deploy the National Guard
Speaker 2: in Chicago to help with crime. Yeah, I guess and yep,
Speaker 2: so putting more American military on the streets.
Speaker 3: The news is reporting I saw this before you and
Speaker 3: I went live. Fox News is reporting that he wants
Speaker 3: to expand it to nineteen states, and they had a map.
Speaker 3: The majority of the states were in the southern region
Speaker 3: of the United States, so like Florida's on there. I
Speaker 3: believe the Carolina was on there, but there was nothing
Speaker 3: in the northeast. Really, everything was mostly in the lower
Speaker 3: part of the country.
Speaker 4: Another nineteen states. He wants to deploy military troops on
Speaker 4: American soil against Americans.
Speaker 2: Well they don't. So, you know, the people who support this,
Speaker 2: they don't look at it as because they, you know,
Speaker 2: maga look at I think they assume that not only
Speaker 2: every undocumented immigrant, or or even some immigrants who maybe
Speaker 2: are documented, you know, I I think I think from
Speaker 2: their point of view, they assume that everyone who's doing
Speaker 2: criminal activity is probably uh is probably an immigrant, documented
Speaker 2: or otherwise, because that's kind.
Speaker 4: Of how criminal activity.
Speaker 2: That's that's kind of how they view Can you say.
Speaker 4: That some of these stops are really questionable?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, so what what's so interesting to me
Speaker 2: is and and you've you've pointed this out, you know,
Speaker 2: you mentioned it earlier. A lot of what Trump is
Speaker 2: doing are things that uh during the Obama administration, UH
Speaker 2: conservatives would rail against, even though Obama wasn't actually doing
Speaker 2: any of these things. But but they, you know, and
Speaker 2: I used to be you know, I was a co
Speaker 2: host on a show called Rock Paper hand Grenades, the
Speaker 2: late Garias Hopper, you know who. You know. I loved
Speaker 2: Gary and I miss him. But on that show, I
Speaker 2: interacted with a lot of people who thought that way,
Speaker 2: who had all these wild ideas with their very vivid
Speaker 2: imaginations about all these things that Obama was going to do.
Speaker 2: Obama was going to any day now, Obama was going
Speaker 2: to declare martial law. Obama was going to deploy American
Speaker 2: military in cities across the country. Obama was going to
Speaker 2: refuse to leave Yes at the end of his second.
Speaker 3: Term and there will be some sort of terms and
Speaker 3: Alex Jones was railing on that, and so were libertarians
Speaker 3: across the country.
Speaker 4: I was a Republican.
Speaker 3: I served with Gary in the New Hampshire State House.
Speaker 3: And the foundation for some of the groups that have
Speaker 3: turned into really bizarre white supremacist organizations today were founded
Speaker 3: on the idea of keeping military away from citizens.
Speaker 4: Positcomic.
Speaker 3: And I'll give you the example of which where a
Speaker 3: lot of this started was when Katrina happened and US
Speaker 3: military National Guard went into Katrina to help. There were
Speaker 3: and there were videos of them going around and actually
Speaker 3: disarming people who had firearms they legally possessed in that state.
Speaker 3: And there's a famous video amongst conservatives, and and it
Speaker 3: is and I've.
Speaker 4: Seen it a zillion times. You can go look it up.
Speaker 4: It's still up. It's last I checked. It was. Go
Speaker 4: on YouTube.
Speaker 3: There's an elderly lady who is in an apartment building.
Speaker 3: She is elevated, she is not flooded in her apartment whatsoever.
Speaker 4: She's on dry land. She's got food and shit in there,
Speaker 4: and she has a firearm.
Speaker 3: And the GNAT the in the National Guard, along with
Speaker 3: whatever PD there was literally put this woman, this elderly
Speaker 3: woman who had to have been in.
Speaker 4: Her seventy our eighties.
Speaker 3: Against the wall, took the firearm from her and left
Speaker 3: because she didn't want to go anywhere, so they left
Speaker 3: her disarmed and unable to defend herself.
Speaker 4: Why why that, you know, that was what we were
Speaker 4: railing against. Why this woman was doing nothing wrong. She
Speaker 4: was simply in her home, riding it out high and dry.
Speaker 3: She's got food, she's got water, She's doing all right
Speaker 3: on her own accord.
Speaker 4: And at the.
Speaker 7: Same token, let's remember while this was going on, people
Speaker 7: had been moved into an astrodome that was subsequently not
Speaker 7: only flooded, but there were numerous accounts of rape and
Speaker 7: assault and theft because people were put into this with
Speaker 7: no policing whatsoever.
Speaker 4: So they instead of having the.
Speaker 3: National Guard and the dome policing, they had them out
Speaker 3: on fucking boats going to people's places and disarming them.
Speaker 4: This is what we were talking about back then.
Speaker 3: This is what we were talking and martial law could
Speaker 3: get declared and.
Speaker 4: That whole aspect. Now, let's look at life today. The
Speaker 4: current Republican party has.
Speaker 3: Now endorsed the police state that they used to rail against.
Speaker 3: We didn't want a police state, no military on our
Speaker 3: streets like they have in communist countries. We're not going
Speaker 3: to be North Korea. We're fucking North Korea. He's putting
Speaker 3: military on the streets. He's already done it in LA,
Speaker 3: excuse me, in DC, in LA, he's doing it now,
Speaker 3: going for Chicago, with plans to do another eighteen or
Speaker 3: so states. How long before it's in every state. What
Speaker 3: happened to states' rights and Tenth Amendment rights to states rights?
Speaker 3: What happened to posi coomatatis? No military against Americans, that's
Speaker 3: part of basic American law. These things have been completely
Speaker 3: thrown aside. Here's what I do know about myself now.
Speaker 3: I am not a Republican anymore. Trump maybe a Democrat
Speaker 3: a long time ago. And but I will say this,
Speaker 3: I'm still saying the same thing. The police state, they'll
Speaker 3: military on American soil against Americans.
Speaker 4: I'm still saying that they're not.
Speaker 3: They've changed, they've given up states rights, they've given up
Speaker 3: the rights of a country that wasn't supposed to be
Speaker 3: military run.
Speaker 4: Like this is insanity to me.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, though, my perception I don't think
Speaker 2: in a sense they've changed, because of course they're you know,
Speaker 2: they're all in the cult. Not literally all of them,
Speaker 2: but most of them are in the cult. Most Republicans
Speaker 2: and the Trump called the Maga cult. So whatever their
Speaker 2: god king says goes, and they don't question anything. They
Speaker 2: question a little bit with Epstein, but the Epstein files,
Speaker 2: but even that's starting to fade away. Ultimately they'll go
Speaker 2: with what you know. I mean, Trump could tell these
Speaker 2: people the sky was green, and they'd all walk outside
Speaker 2: and look up and goah, I always thought it was blue,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I could kind of see it now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So you know, the mindless herd of Maga will go in,
Speaker 2: we can spend how much.
Speaker 3: Money on a parade, but we can't find healthcare.
Speaker 2: Right, military parades and everything, all the stuff that they
Speaker 2: used to pretend to be creeped out by. But in
Speaker 2: another sense, they have not changed, because my perception of
Speaker 2: Republicans and conservatives has always been that they're they're basically
Speaker 2: pretty phony because they they're always inconsistent. Take take government
Speaker 2: spending for example, They're only fiscal conservatives when a Democrat
Speaker 2: is in the White House, When a Republican's in the
Speaker 2: White House. We've got money to burn as far as
Speaker 2: they're concerned, and they don't get it now.
Speaker 7: They will take it from food stamps, that's true, Wick,
Speaker 7: that's true.
Speaker 3: Housing assistance, Yeah, from feeding children in school.
Speaker 2: We can take the money from all of that, right, right.
Speaker 3: Or what is it forty for a billion some odd
Speaker 3: crazy dollars nationwide just from the schools or millions, I
Speaker 3: don't know what it is.
Speaker 4: It's a crazy right.
Speaker 2: But but they'll they'll still take the money. Yeah, they'll
Speaker 2: they'll cut, they'll cut anything that helps people because, as
Speaker 2: I said, because you know, because conservatism is cruel in
Speaker 2: its nature now, but they will then of course, you know,
Speaker 2: they'll spend it elsewhere military spending. Not that I oppose
Speaker 2: all military spending. I do not. I'm not like a
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not far left from you need.
Speaker 4: A strong defensey.
Speaker 2: But but there is a lot of you know, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of waste, fraud and abuse in that zone,
Speaker 2: and of course, uh you know, all kinds of corporate
Speaker 2: welfare and.
Speaker 3: How much money to cost to send him to Scotland
Speaker 3: beast and the ambulance and all the cars and all
Speaker 3: the so he could cut the ribbon on his own
Speaker 3: golf course.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And now he's he's tax dollars to buy stock in Intel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's something that if Biden had done that.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they go insane.
Speaker 3: I done that, Obama said troops in Obama sent in
Speaker 3: troops into.
Speaker 2: A any of this, any of this stuff. But it's true.
Speaker 3: But the same people that claim we don't need this
Speaker 3: because the churches will do it, how come none of
Speaker 3: them are out front going, hey, my church is going
Speaker 3: to start, we're going to adopt the school, and we're
Speaker 3: gonna make sure that the kids have a healthy lunch
Speaker 3: every day.
Speaker 4: We're going to take care of that. I haven't heard
Speaker 4: that yet.
Speaker 3: You know, none of the food pantries are reporting in overabundance.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, a lot of them are
Speaker 4: running on empty and don't even have some basic staples
Speaker 4: in stock anymore. So I don't see it happening there. Buccos.
Speaker 3: No, that's just the bullshit. You feed yourself so you
Speaker 3: could sleep at night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, this is all you know, they're they're
Speaker 2: all on board with whatever Trump does. So but yeah,
Speaker 2: but it is funny. I mean, there's so much of
Speaker 2: what Trumps does or has done. That Again, it's it's
Speaker 2: stuff that they They didn't talk about it as much
Speaker 2: with Biden, not nearly as much, but but with Obama,
Speaker 2: all these crazy conspiracy theories about all this stuff he
Speaker 2: was going to do and to remain and power on
Speaker 2: martial law and everything. Oh, it's almost as though there
Speaker 2: was something about Obama that was different somehow, because with
Speaker 2: other Democratic presidents I can't remember the level of paranoia
Speaker 2: that they exhibited. It's almost as though there was something
Speaker 2: about Barack Obama that just freaked them out and just
Speaker 2: rock Obama really bothered them to their core. I can't
Speaker 2: think of exactly what it might have been, something about
Speaker 2: him that was different from any other president that just
Speaker 2: made them.
Speaker 4: Maybe could have been that.
Speaker 2: I also liked the duality with which they were able to,
Speaker 2: you know, this view, this this dichotomous way they were
Speaker 2: able to view Obama because they would talk about him
Speaker 2: like he was this this very weak, ffeckless leader, this
Speaker 2: incompetent guy who couldn't couldn't do anything right, and he
Speaker 2: was just just very very weak who also was going
Speaker 2: to single handedly destroy America. Yeah, I always thought that
Speaker 2: was interesting, But yeah, so yeah, they're gonna keep deploying troops.
Speaker 2: I mean obviously doing that in DC. Uh that was
Speaker 2: just h that was a test run. And by the way,
Speaker 2: part of why this works too with conservatives and why
Speaker 2: they're willing to go along with this again all this
Speaker 2: stuff that if a Democrat did it, they'd be melting down,
Speaker 2: is because it also feeds into the uh, what we
Speaker 2: call the blue cities fallacy, because conservatives love to talk
Speaker 2: about how, oh, all these Democrat run cities, Uh, they're
Speaker 2: they're also riddled with crime. Well, the reality is most
Speaker 2: major metropolitan areas do have crime. That's part of being
Speaker 2: in a city. And most major metropolitan areas tend to
Speaker 2: be run by Democrats because that's who the people in
Speaker 2: those cities vote for. Urban areas tend to vote conservative. Uh,
Speaker 2: but uh, cities, metro areas, even in the suburbs, they
Speaker 2: vote Democrat. So that's who you get. So no matter
Speaker 2: who's in charge, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat,
Speaker 2: in any city in America, you're going to have crime.
Speaker 2: But they see they take that and they kind of
Speaker 2: twist it and say, oh, look that city's got a
Speaker 2: high rate of crime and well, the mayor's a Democrat, see,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's it's bullshit.
Speaker 4: Very much so.
Speaker 3: But to say to bounce off of something that you
Speaker 3: had said, what was different about Obama? Right, Well, now
Speaker 3: put that in what we're looking at here with military
Speaker 3: and what Ice is doing there can they're they're unapologetically
Speaker 3: profiling people. There was a story I saw earlier of
Speaker 3: a kiddo that got stopped and taken because you know,
Speaker 3: he looked Mexican.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what's going on.
Speaker 3: So profile is now back, and not only that, but worse.
Speaker 3: Quotas quoters are very very bad in law enforcement for
Speaker 3: many many reasons, but the biggest one being is that
Speaker 3: because you make a quota, they will grab anybody and
Speaker 3: everybody that could potentially fit the bill and prove them
Speaker 3: guilty later. That's why we stopped allowing quotas in law
Speaker 3: enforcement was for that reason. That's why we don't allow
Speaker 3: it with speeding tickets. Remember we don't. I mean, average
Speaker 3: America will tell you they don't want quotas on tickets.
Speaker 3: Why because it encourages the cops to stop people for
Speaker 3: petty little shit instead of letting the petty little shit
Speaker 3: go and going after the speeder, the crazy driver, the
Speaker 3: person that's really going to cause an accident. They're pulling
Speaker 3: over the dude that doesn't have a seatbelt on, right,
Speaker 3: because they got to make their quota. This is why
Speaker 3: we don't want quotas in law enforcement. We shouldn't have them.
Speaker 3: Now we have them in spades. Now they want three
Speaker 3: thousand arrests for ice. And the reason that they're putting
Speaker 3: he's putting military under the guise of criminality. But they're
Speaker 3: also saying they are also being sent to assist ice.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So we have the.
Speaker 3: Military and law enforcement in every capacity profiling everybody on
Speaker 3: an American street, and if you potentially look like you
Speaker 3: might not be white, they're going to stop you in
Speaker 3: question your status and you have and they don't care.
Speaker 4: Like, how many videos have you seen?
Speaker 3: I know, I've seen quite a few of people yelling
Speaker 3: I'm an American, I got rights, I got rights.
Speaker 4: Oh you don't have no rights, dude, Now, you ain't
Speaker 4: get no rights here. Yeah, but I'm an American. Now
Speaker 4: you're not. No, you're not.
Speaker 3: And they take them and they make their quota. That's
Speaker 3: why they take them, and they don't listen to them,
Speaker 3: and they don't check their ID, and they don't do
Speaker 3: any of the things they're supposed to do because we've
Speaker 3: given them permission to no longer follow the rules. Yeah,
Speaker 3: uh yeah, and it's snowballing. And now he wants to
Speaker 3: do this in nineteen states. Yeah, and you know, you know,
Speaker 3: and gee, why are we targeting Chicago?
Speaker 4: Why is Chicago next?
Speaker 2: Hmmm? Well Obama's from there originally?
Speaker 4: Oh is that? Could there be any other reasons?
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know.
Speaker 4: You know, there's an awful lot of people there who
Speaker 4: are not white.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and definitely they're targeting people.
Speaker 4: They're targeting black and brown people.
Speaker 3: They want to catch anybody in anybody that can remotely
Speaker 3: decide is illegal, even if you're here legally, you have
Speaker 3: a green card, you've done everything right, They just okay.
Speaker 3: In Maine, there was a police officer in Maine hired
Speaker 3: obviously by the town is H one B.
Speaker 4: Did everything correct.
Speaker 3: Dudes from Jamaica had H one B visa green card
Speaker 3: all nine yards. He's been a working police officer for
Speaker 3: like twenty fucking years.
Speaker 4: They he just had.
Speaker 3: He just ended up having to self deport to Jamaica.
Speaker 3: Because if you don't self deport and you're forcefully deported,
Speaker 3: it's a blemish on you that can prohibit you from
Speaker 3: ever coming back to the country. If you self deport,
Speaker 3: you still have the chance of coming back. And that's
Speaker 3: why some folks are choosing to do that because it's
Speaker 3: it's it's your hail Mary to be able to see
Speaker 3: your family again in person and not through a computer screen.
Speaker 2: So what we need to do, if there were any
Speaker 2: political will to do this is, you know, because I
Speaker 2: always say, we're doing things in the wrong order, we
Speaker 2: need a massive, comprehensive overhaul of our immigration system first,
Speaker 2: and then we can figure out who to remove, because
Speaker 2: I'm all for you know, deporting criminals, but you know
Speaker 2: they should actually be criminals. But we also need to,
Speaker 2: you know, we need to figure out a way to
Speaker 2: bring people out of the shadows, have a have a
Speaker 2: program where people can apply for citizenship or some form
Speaker 2: of legal status like the individual and main you were
Speaker 2: just speaking about.
Speaker 4: But they did, they did all of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we need something. We need something much simpler
Speaker 2: that would be prefer you know, and we need these
Speaker 2: people in the country. And this is the other part
Speaker 2: I wish, and again I wish Democrats would say this
Speaker 2: because but they don't because they're bad at messaging. But
Speaker 2: this is something that needs to be explained to people.
Speaker 2: And I say it all the time.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, immigrants, no matter how much you know, you
Speaker 2: can look, you cannot like brown people all you want to,
Speaker 2: but you need them here. They are essential to the economy.
Speaker 2: Immigrants are essential to the regardless of how they entered.
Speaker 2: They are essential to our nation's economy.
Speaker 4: Look, we've already got fruits rotten on the vine and.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, these.
Speaker 3: Farmers wine now and then they're not getting the subsidies
Speaker 3: anymore from the government.
Speaker 4: So they're going to go belly up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then the big companies like Walmart are going to
Speaker 3: come in and buy it and take it over so
Speaker 3: they can make because you know, they got their own
Speaker 3: chicken and shit. Yeah, so these companies are going to
Speaker 3: come in and buy up these farms, and the farmers
Speaker 3: are going to end up working the land just the same, but.
Speaker 4: They're going to be working it for Walmart or.
Speaker 3: Fill in the blank, whatever, why basket whomever.
Speaker 2: You're just gonna drive up food prices. I always say,
Speaker 2: if you could wave some sort of xenophobic magic wand
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, everybody you don't like wasn't
Speaker 2: in the country anymore. Our economy would collapse overnight. It would,
Speaker 2: it would. People don't believe you though, No, that people
Speaker 2: don't believe. But it's well an economists. Economists believe that though.
Speaker 2: Ask any economists, I'll tell you these people are essential
Speaker 2: to the economy, like you need to fix the system.
Speaker 3: My girlfriend and I sometimes we like to go to
Speaker 3: the dollar store, and there are a number of dollar
Speaker 3: stores around here that are closing in unusual hours because
Speaker 3: they don't have the staff to stay open, right, I mean,
Speaker 3: like three o'clock in the afternoon, they're closing, or they
Speaker 3: are closed because they don't have the staff to stay open.
Speaker 3: All these places you go to that are understaffed, and
Speaker 3: that's happening across the board.
Speaker 4: Understaffed.
Speaker 3: In medicine, you'd be surprised at how many people are
Speaker 3: in medicine working on green cards. We have doctors, nurses,
Speaker 3: all kinds of specialties.
Speaker 4: What we don't have is a rising rank.
Speaker 3: Of those coming up that are going to become the
Speaker 3: doctors of tomorrow to take care of us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when the current crop completely retires.
Speaker 2: Well, and if you're if you're here with a green card.
Speaker 2: I mean the way they keep changing the rules now
Speaker 2: to find excuses to get rid of more people, get
Speaker 2: rid of more immigrants. If you're if you are a
Speaker 2: green card holder, you know you got to be worried
Speaker 2: that you're you're green car card is going to get
Speaker 2: pulled early and they're not going to be all the
Speaker 2: renew your status. You know, there's all kinds of shit
Speaker 2: that could go wrong.
Speaker 4: And this is that green this is that quota.
Speaker 3: That's why that's why ICE is raiding Lowells is raiding
Speaker 3: farms where.
Speaker 4: People are actually working.
Speaker 3: And they actually exactly and they actually get paychecks and
Speaker 3: pay taxes and shit like right right the easy because
Speaker 3: it's easy pickens. It's just like the state trooper that
Speaker 3: sits at the bottom of a hill that jumps from
Speaker 3: fifty miles an hour to thirty five because he knows
Speaker 3: he can snag anybody right there.
Speaker 4: And that's what they're doing.
Speaker 3: They're going to the courthouses where people who who have
Speaker 3: legal documentation, they're following the rules, they've done everything right.
Speaker 3: They're going in for a hearing that they're required to
Speaker 3: go to, and all of a sudden, their cases are
Speaker 3: being dismissed, and that enables ICE.
Speaker 4: To pick them up. Ye see, it's a pending case.
Speaker 4: Ice can't get them. Yeah, Ice is there. Yeah, we
Speaker 4: want you to dismiss d D D da da.
Speaker 3: They dismiss those cases and they pick those people up
Speaker 3: easy pickens. I'm getting my three thousand a day quota. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because that's the that's the quota. It's three thousand a day. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, when you run out of illegals, where do you
Speaker 4: go if that's your claim? Yeah, so, and they did
Speaker 4: that a long time ago.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe in the beginning, they were picking up people
Speaker 3: who were criminalized, and occasionally they grab somebody who is
Speaker 3: a criminal who has done terrible things, who doesn't have
Speaker 3: a deportation order, and that's the person that absolutely, yes,
Speaker 3: we don't want the Cereal rapists to be in the country.
Speaker 3: Of course, when you go into the ice cream man
Speaker 3: who's served this community for over twenty years, he's got
Speaker 3: a green car, done everything right, pays his taxes.
Speaker 4: And you literally take him because he's easy pickings.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And as far as the people who are here illegally,
Speaker 2: because you know, there will always be people who will
Speaker 2: say and you know, like I have a family member
Speaker 2: who will say this, and I'll get a series of
Speaker 2: angry text messages from them, I'm sure after today's show.
Speaker 2: But you know, well, Matt, what about the people who
Speaker 2: entered the country illegally? They they committed a crime, and
Speaker 2: technically it's a misdemeanor.
Speaker 3: If you want to remember, those people want it to
Speaker 3: be a felony.
Speaker 2: Though, Oh I know, I know, but but you know,
Speaker 2: the people who look in a better world, obviously I
Speaker 2: would want everyone to enter the country legally. And I'm
Speaker 2: not you know, I'm not for open borders there. You know,
Speaker 2: as a sovereign nation, we have every right to protect
Speaker 2: our border and control who comes in and out and
Speaker 2: who knows who comes in and all of that right.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing though, this is and again I
Speaker 2: wish this is something I wish democrats would say when
Speaker 2: having these arguments. Regardless of how you feel about people
Speaker 2: coming into the country illegally, we built an economy that
Speaker 2: depends on people coming into the country illegally to work
Speaker 2: on these farms and in these factories and in hospitality.
Speaker 2: Maybe if all of you who have such a problem,
Speaker 2: who are so mad about these people who broke our
Speaker 2: laws coming into the country illegally. Well, maybe we shouldn't
Speaker 2: have built an economy that depends on them, and it
Speaker 2: does depend on them, so but we did. We built
Speaker 2: an economy that depends on these people. So now that
Speaker 2: we've done that, let's acknowledge that. Let's own that and
Speaker 2: now fix the system.
Speaker 4: In one self, let me pay devil's advocate. Here's the
Speaker 4: other side.
Speaker 5: Oh but see, all of the lazy Americans who are
Speaker 5: collecting entitlements are going to take over those service industry jobs,
Speaker 5: in farm worker jobs.
Speaker 3: They're gonna do it because this is an invisible number
Speaker 3: of people who don't fucking exist.
Speaker 4: They're gonna fill these blanks because, in case.
Speaker 3: You hadn't noticed, the dollar store was closed in at
Speaker 3: three ninety percent of the retail stores I go to.
Speaker 4: Don't have enough staff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the medical industry does not have enough staff.
Speaker 3: There are plenty of wonderful jobs out there that aren't staffed.
Speaker 3: And it's not because of america laziest. It's because America
Speaker 3: stopped having eight and ten fucking kids. Yeah, we stopped
Speaker 3: having babies left, right and center.
Speaker 4: So women couldn't have babies anymore because we didn't believe
Speaker 4: in any kind of birth control.
Speaker 3: That stopped, and when we stopped having supersized families, there
Speaker 3: weren't people to fill the void in the holes that
Speaker 3: are now occurring. I'm an only child, and I know
Speaker 3: a lot of people who are only children.
Speaker 4: In my generation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: My dad's generation people had like four or five kids,
Speaker 3: but my grandmother's generation they had like eight and kids,
Speaker 3: and that has progressively changed generation after generation. So there
Speaker 3: doesn't exist this invisible number of people who are going
Speaker 3: to miraculously jump up out of the corn weaves.
Speaker 2: And stop picking.
Speaker 4: It's not gonna happen. It's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Are the number of people in the United States who
Speaker 3: are lazy and don't work, of course, but it makes
Speaker 3: up about one percent. Because we have a system that
Speaker 3: is so fucking hard to get into.
Speaker 4: People don't understand.
Speaker 3: And I challenge conservatives to go to their social departments
Speaker 3: and find out just how hard it is to get
Speaker 3: food stamps to get wick make it do They don't
Speaker 3: make it easy.
Speaker 4: And that's intentional.
Speaker 3: That's to make sure that the people who need it
Speaker 3: are getting it, and that's also to weed out people
Speaker 3: who aren't allowed to get it. Which includes somebody who
Speaker 3: is not in the country, who he's an undocumented soul
Speaker 3: who doesn't have papers with them. That person can't get
Speaker 3: them because they don't have the papers.
Speaker 2: You have to have papers.
Speaker 3: You have to be a documented human being in the
Speaker 3: country or a citizen to even remotely come close to
Speaker 3: qualifying it. People think that you just go in there
Speaker 3: and go, hey, I'm hungry, here's.
Speaker 4: Two hundred bucks of stamps. It doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2: It doesn't really die, no, and.
Speaker 3: It never has. It never has, I can remember. I'll
Speaker 3: tell you a quick story. When I was very very young,
Speaker 3: when I was twenty two going right twenty to twenty
Speaker 3: three years old, I was told I could not have children,
Speaker 3: and then suddenly I got pregnant. I had been married
Speaker 3: for a couple of years and my husband, who's passed
Speaker 3: away at the time at the time, got appendicitis right
Speaker 3: after I got let go for my job because me
Speaker 3: being young, stupid, and naive, I had a job that
Speaker 3: I was within ninety days. I hadn't passed my ninety
Speaker 3: days yet and I was working with chemicals, and shit,
Speaker 3: I'm all excited and I say, hey, I'm pregnant.
Speaker 4: Well, the next day they fired me. Now I filed
Speaker 4: for unemployment. I won. They lied.
Speaker 3: They provided my time cards and it showed that I
Speaker 3: never missed time. So I actually collected unemployment because they
Speaker 3: illegally fired me. That said, he was out of work
Speaker 3: with appendicitist emergency surgery and I was out of work.
Speaker 3: So we had an entire month of no income and
Speaker 3: it was and we were only allowed to get emergency
Speaker 3: food stamps.
Speaker 4: I remember this for It was two hundred bucks.
Speaker 3: It was emergency, one time allotment only, and that was it. It
Speaker 3: didn't matter that I was now unemployed, even though he
Speaker 3: was going back to work. He was going back to work,
Speaker 3: so that was that was fine, that's enough. You got
Speaker 3: it for the one month for emergency.
Speaker 4: And that was it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now these programs aren't handouts, Nope, they're very difficult to get,
Speaker 3: and they are things that we pay for because we
Speaker 3: don't want people to die and starve in our society
Speaker 3: like they do in other countries. Right apparently that's changing now,
Speaker 3: Apparently we'd rather let people starve to death. We want
Speaker 3: children to go hungry in schools like I've got. It's
Speaker 3: kind of does it surprise you? Like how vigorously and
Speaker 3: aggressive they are to take away school lunch.
Speaker 2: Oh no, nothing, nothing surprises me anymore. I mean, you
Speaker 2: know G's Nazis and conquered. Didn't even surprise me. No,
Speaker 2: nothing surprises me anymore.
Speaker 3: I mean, why why are we trying to not feed children?
Speaker 3: What happened to you Christian values? It is scouting.
Speaker 4: We're ch right.
Speaker 2: If I wake up tomorrow to martial law having been declared,
Speaker 2: it won't.
Speaker 3: Be surprised to see them when their elections get suspended
Speaker 3: so there's no midterm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're already trying to jerry me into that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: How long is it before two states goes into nineteen
Speaker 3: states goes into all fifty fucking states that we now
Speaker 3: have National Guard and appointed law enforcement officers over the
Speaker 3: law enforcement officers that were elected.
Speaker 4: Or in or appointed by our own state. States rights
Speaker 4: be damned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, they like to talk about
Speaker 2: states rights. But again, it's only it's like I said,
Speaker 2: whether it's that or fiscal policy or you know, it's
Speaker 2: only you know, it's only when.
Speaker 4: When it's convenient to their convenience, when.
Speaker 2: It's convenient for them, they'll they'll they'll flip on anything that,
Speaker 2: you know, if they can, if they can find a
Speaker 2: way to hurt people. I mean, that's that's a big,
Speaker 2: big part of it.
Speaker 3: Military in the streets. And they did just change it
Speaker 3: now too that now they're going to carry arms. Of course,
Speaker 3: they weren't carrying guns. They were just there supposedly to assist.
Speaker 3: But now they're current carrying ak's down the street and
Speaker 3: patrolling the street, you know, like we're living in fucking China.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: No just And then they had the right to just
Speaker 3: simply pick somebody up off and take them off, yeah,
Speaker 3: and take off with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, due process when you throw in that, people are
Speaker 3: so quick to throw away due process rights to so
Speaker 3: called undocumented people. Do they not understand they're doing that.
Speaker 3: They're opening that for us, for the rest of America,
Speaker 3: for other America. It's not It doesn't just stop with one.
Speaker 3: It never does. The proverbial nose under the camel's tent.
Speaker 2: Yeah. They'll also try to rationalize it by saying, well,
Speaker 2: the Constitution only applies to Americans, which is not true. No,
Speaker 2: that's a misunderstanding. It applies to anyone in the country. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it applies to anyone within our borders. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Uh, we are militarizing of our country. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: they're gonna make it they want And what is it
Speaker 3: we used to say all the time back in the day.
Speaker 3: They want you to get used to seeing that. They
Speaker 3: want to become normalized, for you to see military walking
Speaker 3: down the street carrying ak's military gear.
Speaker 4: They want you to be that. Yes, they want you
Speaker 4: in fear of it.
Speaker 3: Yes, they want you to mind your p's and q's
Speaker 3: and not speak poorly of them out of fear of
Speaker 3: being arrested.
Speaker 2: That's right, absolutely, that is what they want. All right. Well,
Speaker 2: I think on that note, was there anything else you
Speaker 2: wanted to mention or talk about. I don't think so, Okay,
Speaker 2: all right very much, Yeah, yeah, no, we can we
Speaker 2: can stop on that and I'll get this into the Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think this is a good place to stop.
Speaker 3: I mean, I hope that people will stand up, speak up.
Speaker 3: You have to get up, and you have to get active.
Speaker 3: This isn't politics as usual. Right in the old days,
Speaker 3: Democrats and Republicans worked across party lines came to agreements
Speaker 3: that were suitable for most. Now it's this right, extreme
Speaker 3: right ring rule and a regime that is militarizing our
Speaker 3: country and this cannot be the America that you want.
Speaker 3: So you've got to get active. And if you're not
Speaker 3: sure how to do that, reach out. Be happy to
Speaker 3: bring you in and show you what we're doing and
Speaker 3: what other people are doing, and hopefully bring in your
Speaker 3: ideas to combat this because we have got to or
Speaker 3: democracy is dead. And I don't say that to just
Speaker 3: throw that out there, but for real, if there's if
Speaker 3: there's military in the streets and there's no there's nobody
Speaker 3: holding anybody accountable, this isn't democracy, this is fascism.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. All right, Jenny, you want to
Speaker 2: mention your website for people to keep up with everything
Speaker 2: that you're doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, come check out what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: Actually, it just got my first byline on Common Dreams.
Speaker 3: I'm super proud of that. Read all about it in
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Speaker 2: And if you are streaming this live on Sunday, just
Speaker 2: a quick reminder. On Monday, which will be the twenty fifth,
Speaker 2: at I believe, at five pm, we're going to do
Speaker 2: a stream with Vices Inc. About vices Fest which is
Speaker 2: coming up next weekend Labor Day weekend at the Strand
Speaker 2: and Dover. It is an amazing three day festival and
Speaker 2: looking forward to learning more about that. There's gonna be
Speaker 2: a lot of great bands. There are many of whom
Speaker 2: who have been on the show over the past couple
Speaker 2: of years. So all right, that's it for us for now,
Speaker 2: Thanks Jenny, and we'll talk to you a little bit later.
Speaker 2: Bye everybody, Bye bye Commander.
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