Matt Connarton Unleashed 8-8-23

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Welcome everybody, Happy Tuesday. It is that time again. Matt Connerton

unleashed and we are live from the studios of wm n H ninety five point

three FM in glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. Also on Comcast ninety seven.

If you're in Manchester and hello to Oliver our online listeners across the nation

and around the globe. You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com

for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact and folk

show archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is a Tuesday, August

eight, two thousand twenty three. So quick programming note regarding today's show.

So one of our guests is not here, not going to be here.

In the first hour, we did have scheduled journalist Bob Henneley. He's a

media guy from New York and he hosts the show actually on w BAI big

talk radio station in New York City. Bob was going to be here with

us today via Skype, but something has come up. He's got there's a

nurse's strike apparently that he is covering and he's in the thick of it there.

So he let Jenny know he's not going to be able to make it

on today. After all. He did apologize and we will rebook him,

of course, because I was really looking forward to speaking with him. So

kind of a bummer, but you know, there's always a million other things

we can do. There's always plenty going on in the news and so forth.

So Bob Henneley will not be able to be here with us today,

unfortunately, but he will reschedule. So really I am looking forward to speaking

with him in the future. We do have, however, in the second

hour. Our musical guest today is the band Best Not Broken. That's on

You Us Heard Kids, which is super catchy that actually all their stuff is

to be honest with you. So I'm really looking forward to meeting these guys.

They're gonna come in live in studio in the second hour of today's show,

Best Not Broken. We'll play some more of their music, we'll talk

with those guys, get to know them. Really looking forward to that.

And of course before that, to open the show, we played a little

Jerry and the Scumbags the new single Hipster Dipster. We've played that a few

times on the show. It's burning up the charts, burning up the charts.

Dylan Reynolds is in the Facebook live chat and says, this song is

great. I love Jerry. We all love Jerry absolutely well. I know

one person who doesn't, but the rest of us do. So that guy.

What a talent he is, you know. And by the way,

if he ever decides to leave music behind and get back into podcasting, I

think he could be the next Howard Stern, the next rated our comedy star.

Okay that's a little inside, but it doesn't matter. And but the

point is we love Jerry Robinson and we love Best not Broken, Best Not

broken. We'll be here in the second hour of today's program. In the

meantime, we'll see what other kinds of trouble in shenanigans. I always stumble

on that word. We can get into today. Oh, Jenny points out

regarding Jerry Robinson. I'm the T shirt girl, just saying yes, yes,

you were given that, and I of course am the uh what,

oh, what's the name of my title for Jerry's rock and roll Army?

Oh, Commander to the Supreme Leader of Jerry's rock and Roll Army, which

is very stious, prestigious. You know, I never really thought of myself

as a military man until I received that particular invitation, and I said,

that's an army i'd really like to be a part of. So far,

I haven't had to do anything, and it's great. I love being part

of Jerry Robinson's rock and roll Army. And of course, commander to the

Supreme Leader. It just sounds you know, it sounds powerful, and that's

what I like. All right. Anyway, six three two five O six

zero seven. The studio line is open and we already have a call.

We'll see who's on the line here. Hi, Well, welcome to Matt

Connorton unleashed. Is this allow Matt? So this says Jerry Robinson. Oh

my goodness, Sherry Robinson, I was just talking about you. I know,

I love I love tuning in too, of course, my favorite commander

to the Supreme Leader's radio show. It's quite fantastic. Thank you, thank

you. It's quite fantastic to be the commander to the Supreme Leader. And

I really appreciate that, Matt, so listen. I'm just I'm so elated

that Jenny took my offer to be a T shirt girl to the Supreme Leader

of rock and roll. That just made my whole week when she accepted that.

Yes, yes, it didn't take her long to decide to accept your

offer. She was very very excited. Yes, yes, it's been very

good. I just wanted to give you some updates on the music, of

course, yes please, So you know, I know we all got together,

but h and we got some files out of being sent. I still

got to do some stuff in studio Studio D of course, the largest,

greatest studio. It's got the greatest girth, of course, it's the best

studio. Yes, I'm working on a song right now. It is called

selfish, self centered, and self absorbed. And I'm also working on one

called riding the units cycle with no Seat down the bumpy Road of life.

Boy, that's a that's a wordy that's a very wordy title. Will any

of that be in parentheses? Yea, some of it will, especially one

called uh, You're just a squirrel and then in parenthesies trying to get a

not in my world. I've heard that somewhere. Yes, that sounds great.

I just you know, I think it's something that I mentioned one of

my previous videos. Of course, uh, probably you know, it's just

been great. How have you been this week? So so far? Mess

tho, Well, it's early, it's only Tuesday, so you know,

a lot can a lot can yet go wrong, but we hope for the

best, and we soldier on soldier as and of course, uh you know

Jerry's rock and roll army. But yes, so far, so good,

sir, Oh thank you that. Yeah, that's great, that's great to

hear. I hope that I see Jenny's not in studio today, but I

hope that that she is doing well, of course, And you know,

all the great members of our bands, you know, you know yourself,

you know Billy Painter Parent Pincher, but you know, I just wanted to

call give you some updates. I also really appreciate you playing our song Hipster

Dipster, by the way, which is for free on my band camp page.

If you look up Jerry and the Scumbags, it is for free on

a free download. You can download that plus our great single I'm Demand Yes

and Hipster Dipster. It's burning up the charts. I saw it. I

really appreciate that's saw a chart here somewhere anyway. Yes, yes, it's

somewhere. You know it's it's gonna go platinum somewhere, probably in like that

I don't know, like Bosnia, Algeria. We got some connections over and

dot that area of the world. But yes, I just wanted to call

off of you. Great wishes for the rest of your week and rest of

your day. All the best, Jerry nights, Jerry bye bye. Oh

wow. The Great Jerry Robinson. Always wonderful too to hear from him.

Such a such a nice man. He's uh uh, he's a great,

a great rock and roll are very very talented, and it's wonderful to have

that association with the great Jerry Robinson, and I'm telling you that that track

Hipster Dipster. Yes, it is actually uh in the UH the Bosnia,

Algeria market. It is UH very very successful. Also, I see Mike

from Queen City Cabinetry in the Facebook live chat. He was commenting the other

day he saw it on a chart in Tibet. It's a number one into

Bett, I believe if I'm not mistaken. There's a lot of inside jokes

today. Sorry anyway, but if you're new to the show, you're welcome

to join the show and the inside jokes. Six zero three two five zero

six zoh seven. The studio line is open six zero three two five zero

six zero seven. You can also text me at six one seven nine one

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interact endo Pine in the Facebook live chat. But the best thing to do

so that we can hear and enjoy your Dolcy tones is to give us a

call at six oz three two five zero six zero seven. Let's go ahead

and say hello to everybody in the Facebook live chat, and then we'll get

into some stuff if you're just joining us, But you did see the social

media post earlier. Our guest for this hour, Bob Henneley, has to

reschedule. Journalist Bob Henneley from New York. He's got he's covering the nurses

strike and he's uh so he's he has to focus on that at the moment.

So, but we do have a great musical guest coming up in the

second hour, the band Best Not Broken. We'll be here with us,

and Shannon is on the line. High Shannon, Hello, almost a good

morning. Well it's morning somewhere. Uh. What I wanted to say was,

in case anybody isn't telling you. I think Peter said this morning that

the instead of channel ninety seven, it is channel six. Now I didn't

know that if well, unless he was pulled on everybody's leg, I don't

know, but he said that they weren't on ninety seven anymore, they were

on channel six. Oh, okay, I could be wrong. In case

anybody's looking at ninety seven that ken and doesn't see anything, or you know,

just letting you know. Okay, all right, all right, all

right, thanks Shannon, Yeah, all right, by bye, all right.

I don't know. I mean, I know there's gonna be some changes

with that with the cable channels, but if that is the case, no

one has informed me, so I don't know. Six zero three two five

zero six zero seven is the number six zero three two five zero six zero

seven. Let's see. We will say hello everybody in the chat here.

Uh. Scott Robinson joins us and says, well, hello guys, Well

hello Scott. Also, Jenny is in the chat and says shalom, peeps.

Dylan Reynolds I mentioned, is in there. Jay Fed, of course,

from the Great State of Vermont. I was reading about the health benefits

of ice baths the other day and I thought of you, Jay Fed.

Melanie Liberty, of course, in the Great State of Vermont. Hello Melanie.

Miriam Mannish joins us and says, Shenanigans is one of my favorite words.

I used the term earlier, but I did stumble upon it, which

I felt terrible about. Oh, someone is calling who I think can shed

some light on the subject that Shannon was just calling about. Hey, Joe,

Yeah, this might be the answer. And I'm sorry you didn't hear

about it. But in fact, Jason and I this morning we're just we

looked at the calendar and we go, wow, today's the day. Oh,

I guess it should have been a bigger deal. But Channel ninety seven

is on six and Channel twenty three Public Access is now on eight. Really

that's why. Okay, yeah, they and I think the big news is

Channel nine is now on channel nine. Yeah, I remember so, Peter.

Peter did mention something to me about how that was going to be happening,

which to me I didn't realize because well, as for you know,

years they were on obviously forever they've been on twelve because of because of interference

by analog channels. But we no longer have analog channels anymore, so they

can put it wherever they they want, and now they've got their nine back.

Yeah, okay, well that's good. But what's really good is so

this is on channel six right now, is what you're saying, Channel six.

That's pretty cool. Actually, that's what that's really good. You know

what the weird thing is they're mapping it throughout the city, so it did

not happen all at once. For example, Gwen, who we all know

and love, was still watching Jerry Springer on Channel eight while the rest of

us were watching you know, TV fel Mes. So it's not it's not

quite done yet, but it will be done by the end of the day.

Oh, very cool, very cool, all right, great to know.

I'm just excited that we're on channel six because a lot more people are

likely to school. Yeah, it's a little bit easier to get to I

guess, oh yeah, number yeah, that's a big swing. No,

I love it. That's great. All right, Joe, thank you so

much for sure. All right, Joe, thank you, alright, by

bye bye bye, all right, the great Joe Lar and Joe. By

the way, I mean this, this W M and H would uh likely

not exist were it not for Joe Larre. But so he deserves a lot

of a lot more credit than I think people. Well he's he's a humble

guy anyway, but but he deserves a lot of credit for what we're able

to do here. But that's cool. So Shannon, you were right.

Joe Larre confirms it. We are now on channel six in Manchester on the

cable. That is pretty cool because obviously the advantage of being on channel six

is when people are people who have cable, when they're flipping through the channels.

They're a lot more likely to see us and stumble upon us and then

say, oh my goodness, who's this lunatic? But which is a good

thing, because lunacy is ratings. That's an old saying I learned from television

executive ice to know. I totally made that saying. Up. I did

hear a different saying today. I learned a new expression today, not much

meat in the bun. But I don't know how I feel about it,

so you might never hear me use it. It kind of makes me giggle

a little bit, anyway, the point being that's very exciting. So we're

now on Channel six here in Manchester on cable television. That is amazing.

Thank you again to Joel Lar for chiming in and clearing that up. I

was very confused, but apparently this has just happened. This is a new

development. So Miriam Banish in the chat room says, thanks Joe Lar,

I love WMNH and MPT. Yes yes, Oh. Sepsis joins us in

the Facebook latch at great band of course and close friends of ours, and

Jenny and I of course will be not only there but participating. We'll have

more details when it gets closer, but Swarmy Fest coming up in November at

Jewel Nightclub. But Sepsis says, who remembers continental cable vision? I have

heard of continental cable vision now see I actually, oh, by the way,

so the whole channel nine thing to me, I guess for people who

have lived in Manchester for you know, because there's people in Manchester who grew

up here. Obviously apparently in Manchester, Channel nine used to be on channel

twelve here in Manchester, and that's not unusual in cities across the country for

on cable. You know, you have a conflict, so so you have

you know, the numbers don't always line up. But I actually grew up

and conquered, and in conquered channel nine was always on channel nine, so

I I to me, it's nothing new, channel nine meeting on channel nine.

But but apparently if you're in Manchester, that's that's uh, that's a

new thing. But that's good for them, good for them, everything's falling

into place. Mike from Queen's City Cabinetry says, in Rhode Island, we

say uh much not meet in the fifty five gallon drum. That's a very

confusing. Mike and by the way, and of course Mike from Queen's City

Cabinetry and one of our co hosts on Friday night on Retrospectrum Radio. That's

why I don't go to Rhode Island. They have all kinds of confusing expressions

there, and I don't know what they're talking about. It's like there is

talking a different language. It's crazy. Uh. Let's see. Miriam Banish

says, reminds me a little of Gilbert Godfried, and I assume she's referring

to our friend Jerry Robinson. Boy, how about those song titles. Huh

again, it's a little inside, but we we like it if you know,

you know. Oh, Melanie La Liberty said the same thing. Gilbert

Godfried. No, Gilbert Godfried though, boy he was he was very funny.

I was sad when he passed away. But no, Gilbert Godfried add

more of a little bit, more of a screech to him than than our

friend Jerry. Uh. Let's see. Oh and freeband Prince great hip hop

artist from Florida also joining us in the Facebook live chat. Hello, let

me give out the studio line again, especially for our viewers on Channel six.

This is amazing. If you're just joining us. This is Matt Connerton

unleashed here at WMH ninety five point three. Fm U six zero three two

five six zero seven is a studio line six ZHO three two five zero six

zero seven. Uh, we should talk about some things again. Also,

if you are just joining us, our guest Bob Henley has to reschedule.

But we do have the band Best Not Broken coming up in the second hour.

But in the meantime. Oh, here's something just completely random that just

caught my eye, not particularly of any great importance, but media reports Tampa

mayor catches over one million dollars of cocaine during a fishing trip in the Florida

Keys. Now, this uh, quite quite shocking to me. I didn't

know that you could go fishing for for that. Maybe maybe the mayor didn't

mean for that to happen, you know. When I was a kid,

uh, I remember watching Miami Vice and not seeing anything. You know,

they were of course Vice narcotics, Don Johnson and Philip Michael Thomas. I

don't remember what their actual names were. I never got into that show.

My dad liked that show a lot when I was a kid. I never

really got into it. But but then again, that was Miami. This

happened in Tampa. So maybe if it had been Tampa vice, Uh,

you know, they would have had a plot line where, you know,

they're fishing, maybe they're there, they're Oh, Sonny Crockett. That's the

name of the character, And now it's coming back to me. Sonny Crockett's

the name of the character that Don Johnson played, Oh Crockett. And Tubbs.

Tubbs was the other guy. I forget his first name, doesn't matter.

Media reports a family fishing trip off the Florida Keys yielded an out of

the ordinary catch, several blocks of discarded cocaine over a million dollars worth,

but the person who recognized it was none none other than the mayor of Tampa,

Jane Caster. Reporter Olivia George of the Tampa Bay Times recounted the story

of how Castor and her family came across the unexpected stash. There was something

in the water, black and bobbing. The package adrift in the Atlantic caught

the eye of a family enjoying a day of fishing off the Florida Keys on

a Sunday in late July. Hey, look at that, said Kelly Castor,

a sixty one year old boating enthusiast cocaine, replied his older sister,

Tampa Mayor Jane Castor, as the package came closer, speaking with the assurance

of someone who spent three decades in the Tampa Police Department, including about eight

years in narcotics and six as police chief. Not just cocaine, but seventy

pounds of it, according to US Border Patrol, who also placed the street

value of the find at one point one million dollars. Ever, the former

cop Castor recorded the location where they fished the cocaine out of the water on

her watch before they lugged it on board the boat she and her family were

riding. Once they were on dry land, Mayor Caster, who along with

her brother was accompanied on the trip by her son and his girlfriend, called

up the Monroe County Sheriff's office to report the cocaine, which was then taken

away by federal agents. The hall made the Miami Herald as well as the

Twitter account it's x now and It's not Twitter anymore of US Border Patrol agent,

while a slasser who posted a photo of the cocaine bricks, identifying only

a recreational Boater as having found the cocaine. Castor was only identified by The

Tampa Bay Times on Tuesday as being the one to find the cache. Wow.

After turning in their initial catch, Castor and her family continued their trip

to much success, spending quote the rest of their vacation diving and fishing,

catching no more drugs, but about sixty lobsters unquote. That must seem I

mean, I know, you know, people like to go fishing for lobster

because you can eat lobster, of course, But I mean after catching all

that cocaine, I mean, where do you go from there? Really?

Everything after that just seems kind of tame, doesn't it. Wow, isn't

that that that movie A River Runs through It? Isn't that what that's about?

Catching? Catching cocaine on your fishing line? I don't know. John

Hopwood joins us in the Facebook live chat and says, a million dollars ain't

what it used to be. Mike from Queen City Cabinetry says it's all in

what you use for bait. Well, apparently, and Ronda Fervero from the

Great State of California joins us in the Facebook live chat. Uh, let's

see in other news now speaking of let's look at this because I mentioned,

oh, by the way, before we go any further, I know there's

there's Trump's stuff now. He's making claims about uh Fannie Willis having an affair

with a gang member. It's just crazy stuff. I'm just I'm just not

up for it today. If you listen to yesterday's show, when I was

talking about TFS settling in Trump fatigue syndrome, I actually wasn't kidding. I

was so not kidding that when it probably sounded like I was joking when I

said I was on the verge of a panic attack just trying to keep track

of all the Trump legal stuff in my head, I actually wasn't kidding.

Like I actually was not kidding. I will confess that now I really did

feel one coming on. So I'm just not doing it today. I'm just

not doing it today. We're not doing any Trump stuff today. I know

there's new developments in the legal sagas there are every day. I just I

can't do it. I'm overwhelmed by it. And it's not like it's not

like if we don't cover any Trump stuff today, there won't be opportunities in

the future like tomorrow or the day after or the day after or the next

week or whatever, because this is all going to be going on for a

very long time. So I should tell you, especially new viewers on Channel

six, I should tell you if you're enjoying the show and you're thinking,

oh, I wonder if he's going to talk about the latest Trump news.

No, I'm not. I'm taking the day off from Trump. I just

I need a break. Trump has burned me out. Part of it is

I think I need to figure out a way again. Yesterday, I just

I wasn't. Jenny and I both and John Hopwood too. You know,

we're talking about this and we're we can't keep it all straight in our heads.

You know, the Egen Carol lawsuit and the countersuit, and there was

news about that yesterday, and oh my god, I just I can't do

it. So instead, let's look at this, because this came up Twitter,

which is now X. CNBC reports today Elon Musk's X aims to win

back advertisers with brand new safety technology deal. Some bullet points. X said

that its signed an exclusive partnership with the digital ad tech firm Integral ad Science.

I don't care, I just realized I don't care about any of this,

so we're gonna we're gonna x that out. No. I just I

am fascinated by you know, we do talk about social media on the show

and online media and so forth, and I've been just fascinated, as I

know we all have, by watching Elon Musk try to figure out what to

do with Twitter, and then all of a sudden one day I sign on.

And I don't use Twitter a lot. I use it mostly just to

promote the show. To be honest with you, my first social media platform

of choice is Facebook. I use Facebook more than anything. But it was

odd the first time after the change when I logged onto Twitter and I see

this X, and I have to tell you, by the way, not

to nitpick. And what do I know, Elon Musk is a billionaire.

I'm just me. I'm just a guy sitting here running my mouth. But

I have to say, when I open that you are l and I see

the X logo up here on the screen. It looks a little cheap to

me. And look, I am a web designer, so I know a

little something about making things look nice. And I don't know, it looks

like it just you know this X appears this Uh you know the way it

loads, it's kind of cheesy. It looks like Windows ninety five or something.

And then and then it goes to the Twitter and then everything else is

the same except for the logo. But it's just it looks cheap. I

don't I don't get it. I don't get it. Melanie asks a question

about is there one particular instance where I might speak about Trump? And I'm

not comfortable reading that question on the air, but that is funny and the

answer is yes, Melanie, if that did happen and I would talk about

it, However, I would have to speak about it in code. I

wouldn't. I wouldn't want to be a graphic. It is afternoon drive after

all. Uh. Let's see now, I wanted to. Let's look at

this. If you've been following Ron De Santis, who, of course the

governor of Florida and anti woke enthusiasts, he's been in New Hampshire a few

times now. I think he's had a big campaign shake up. This has

just happened. Uh. In fact, Politico as an updated story to Santis

replace his campaign manager as he struggles to catch up to Trump. Uh see,

we can't. We can't avoid Trump entirely today, but we're talking about

de Santis. The focus is De Santis with this, Yeah, Trump will

figure in. Trump has to figure in. By the way, I still

think Trump is not going to be at that debate in Milwaukee, that I

am sure about. But yes, there has been a campaign shake up at

Ron De Santis campaign. By the way, I think people are making perhaps

a little bit too much of it, only in the sense that it's interesting

because it's political news. This is a presidential primary campaign cycle, so it's

all interesting to talk about, which is why I'm bringing it up. But

I don't think it's that unusual. It seems to me that campaign shakeups are

not unusual in a presidential campaign, especially one that's struggling that was expected to

do better. Apparently, the De Santis campaign has been burning through cash very

quickly and is not getting any real traction. You know, he's supposed to

be the challenger to you know, the biggest quote unquote threat to Trump.

I'm not going to be able to avoid Trump completely. It's impossible. He's

ubiquitous, but again, I will We're not making him the focus of this

conversation. This is about Rhonda Santis or tiny D, one of Trump's nick

names for him, iron to sanctimonious. Oh my god, it really is

impossible to avoid Trump. Oh policies in the Facebook live chat and says hey

guys, hello Paul of course from Retrospectrum Media with policy and also astronaut Viacom

is in the Facebook live chat and astronaut Viacom says, what's with Trump?

We said, no, Astronaut Viacom, I'm trying to avoid Trump today.

I'm trying to avoid and I'm already failing. So these campaign shakeups are not

unusual. But the problem with Ron de Santasis campaign is so he was supposed

to be he was expected to be the biggest threat to Trump, but of

course Trump is a head by like forty points. So now he's getting desperate

and to try to figure out a way to reboot and course correct. But

I don't think this campaign shakeup is going to help unless he's willing to do

a couple of things that he probably is reluctant to do. But we have

a call. Hi, Welcome to Matt Connerton unleashed. Who's us? It's

your old pal John c. Hotwood. The sea stands for super stilious yes,

which starts with an S. We've talked about that, Hi, John,

Well, the Russians sage, and Oh, I support Bobby Kennedy Jr.

Which means I'm a putin. Duke McCarthy, I plan. Oh my

goodness, speaking of Bobby speaking Aboubby Kennedy Jr. I have a question.

Have you ever seen the film Thirteen Days? Yeah, no, but I've

read about it. I don't like to watch like historical hysterical films. Thirteen

Days, Eric historical films. Thirteen Days is so good. That's about Kenny

O'Donnell. Yeah, well, it's about the Cuban missile crisis. But Kenny

O'Donnell is played by Kevin Costner and is the main character in the film.

Uh. Bruce Greenwood plays JFK. And it's absolutely fantastic. Yeah, very

fine Canadian actor. Yeah, Stephen Culp plays Bobby Kennedy and Jenny had never

seen it. I've seen it a number of times. It's one of my

top five favorite films of all time. I love that movie. I love

I love anything involving the Cuban missus. It's really good. John because it

is really good. I recommended. The problem I have with Kevin The only

problem I have with Kevin Costner is that my friend Jocelyn used to live him

over his garage and uh, there's some bad blood there. So you know,

well I have to hear that story. What do you mean, why

is there bad blood? You'll hear that one. Oh is that kind of

story? Okay, I'm awfully curious. Yeah, it's just it's just one

of those things. You know, her boyfriend at the time, Rose sub

dances with wolves and won the Oscar and uh, there's too much to talk

about it. It's it's it's it's all right to name drop in New York

City or la uh in Manchester. It's very vulgar. Although I am going

his name dropped because we're going to talk about campaign shakeups. M Yes,

the name I have to drop as my late friend Bill Cashion, who was

very close. So yes, he was consider They called him the Kingmaker and

he used to be the head of the whole operation there. But he was

one of those New Hampshire politicians that every presidential candidate has to go see every

New Hampshires. The New Hampshire primary there are certain people that you have to

go see. The Democrats Lu Dallasandro, every Senator Lu Dallasandra from Manchester,

everybody has to go see him. Yeah, you know, you have to

course them. And Bill cashions with then the chairman of the board of the

Manchester Board of Mayor and all the and like a twenty foot portrait there in

the chamber is one of those people they had to see. I met.

That's I spent an hour with Joe Biden at Bill Tugs one day with our

mayor, former Governor Lynch. What year was that the way campaigns go,

what year year? They would have been twenty nineteen, okay, because you

know the Hampshire primaries early he was not the Vice president Biden and I've talked

about meeting Biden before. Ye, So he talks, he comes off the

better. He's one of those people like Hillary Clinton comes up better in private,

although there's not much difference, as I don't know if Biden's like nah,

it's like meeting Bill Clinton. Now. Bill Cashion, one of the

reasons to call the Kingmaker was central to Bill Clinton's campaign in nineteen ninety two,

and he actually came on. He told Bill Clinton that after the Jennifer

Flowers scandal that you've got to claim, you know, on election night,

if you come in second, that you actually want, which he did.

Bill didn't come up with the term to come back kid, though, I

have no idea who that is. Oh I have a theory. I have

a theory about that. I think Bill Clinton probably used that back when because

if you remember when Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, he served a term

and then he got voted out, and then the next term he ran again

and got voted back in. So he had already been the comeback kid back

in Arkansas. Now you know I was. Bill was not a person that

talked a lot lot. You know, we did talk a lot because the

twenty sixteen primary, Hillary started running and I can't tell you a lot about

that. Botsaul Danny O'Neill, who used to be the chairman of the board

who built Bill Cash that was kind of like his success or, told Tony

stories about because he was brought into the Clinton campaign it was the beginning of

his career. And he said, and Bill Cash was about five foot five,

you know my size, and Bill Clinton was six foot three. I

met him many times, and Danny O'Neill, who was a big, big

guy. I remember Danny O'Neill was trying to hug me once and I thought

I was gonna he did try to hug me about Oh my god, I

thought I was gonna get to six feet because he's a big guy. And

he said, John, you should have seen it was just something, you

know, it was some victory. I think that the time we defeated a

certain mayor. We're gonna get into that. But Danny was saying, John,

you should have seen it. After the Jennifer Flowers, uh, you

know, blew up and everybody was all torn out in the seat over what

was going to happen. There's Bill, you know, a foot a foot

shore of the Bill Clinton, and he's pointing his finger into Bill's chest and

saying, you were only going to campaign in the corridor on ninety three Nashua

Manchester concert, remember that Nashua Manchester conquered. Don't listen to these people,

you know his campaign advices. Don't give a damn about Portsmouth. Portsman's gonna

vote you know, gonna vote Democrat anyways. You don't care about the North,

you don't care about the West. You care about these three cities are

you are you talking about in the are you talking about in the primary or

the general election? Yeah, in the New Hampshire primary, that's what I

thought, because that's what I thought. But then you said the thing about

Portsmouth and they're going to vote Democrat anyway, and that threw me, right,

you don't You don't, well, yeah, exactly, because that's true.

They're probably gonna what he meant was probably gonna vote liberal, right,

and Bill was a conservative moderate. Yeah, I don't know who the liberal

was, and that maybe Songes. Well, Paul Songis, I mean,

he was ever everybody knew. I mean, the way I remember it,

The reason Bill Clinton could claim victory was because everyone knew Paul Songis was going

to win anyway, because even though he's from a border state, he had

favorite son status effectively liberal from Massachusetts. My candidate. I voted for him.

Oh my friends, Uh, some of my friends who you know,

wouldn't vote for him because they thought Paul song Which was lying about his cancer,

which turns out he actually still had the cancer. Really, you know,

you know, people who thought he was actually thought he was lying about

that. Wow. Well yeah, because you don't you know, we won't

get into cancer. Cancer has a tendency to come back. He did with

my father. Yeah, and uh, you know, you go into remission.

But it's important to know. In nineteen ninet two, Bill Clinton listened

to a local candidate, I mean a local politician who knew every This guy's

Bill Cashi knew more about politics. I remember saying that I only thought to

Buden, this guy knows more about politics than anybody I've ever met. And

well, I didn't mention the name Howard jim through Joe Biden sea Might before

he became Looke. It might have, you know, seam Might accounts ears

here about that old Brandy but that somebody you associated with Bernie Sanders, right,

But okay, so that is nineteen ninety two. The thing was,

you want you ran a campaign to win in New Hampshire, you get close

to the people. I remember John Hudson saying, people tell me because when

John Huntsman I covered him. I actually crossed the line and the party line

and voted for him in the primary because it was so impressed by him,

even though he didn't have my politics. But Obama was not a policy.

I'm mad of Obama for assassinating US citizens without the court, the order or

anything. I like. I like John Huntsman as well. He's talked about

him the kind of labels with a mansion. But getting back to the campaign,

he Bill Clinton listened to the local people who knew what was going on.

They knew the pull. Nobody knew more about politics than Bill Cash and

nobody knew more about Manchester or you know, the Democratic Party even rended body

and they and he'd be sitting with him and the call come, oh hello,

governor, and he had Bill Clinton on his the cell phone actually called

each other Billie's. Because that's twenty sixteen. In twenty sixteen, you had

Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton had a bunch of kids running her campaign from you

know, from the elite universities. That this is what this is a big

trend too, where campaigns are run by these technocrats. Because Jimmy Carter was

the first person actually that we remember using somebody like that in Pat Cadell is

that it was his name, the oh yeah, statistics guy, the polling

guy. Yeah. The thing is she was not using any vocal people.

She's using kids that were driven by statistics, by online you know, you

wouldn't even take the computer base that's online. And you know, Bill say,

it's following the campaign because Obama is coming out of nowhere, you know,

and uh and is topping the poles. And he says, this is

crazy to use these kids. She's not making any connection with vocal and uh,

I'll tell you what. The day before the primary, over on the

west side on Kelly Street, there's a French Canadian giant Shvashaw and it's famous.

You go in there and there's pictures of every presidential candidate you know,

back to like nankteen seventy two, and they're famous for their do you call

putin pittine whatever, it's French Canadian French fries with gravy. Vica came when

she was visiting me. I took her there and she said it faced like

vomit. But you know it's a local specialty and a lot of people like

it. Bill Clinton loved it. So we're having a meeting over at Shiva

Shan it's before Hillary that dip little the day it's the last day the primary,

and she is going to go campaign. But they're waiting and they're waiting

for Bill Cashion to come. I had to go I can't go into becausement

start. But finally Bill shows up and Bill, I'm sitting with Danny O'Neill,

Bob Backus, who you well now, who's Harvard educated lawyer but probably

the only true liberal the entire city of Manchester before, you know, the

new generation of people. And I'm sitting with Bill, Bill, Bill,

Bill Barry too. We're all sitting and Cashion is sitting with the ghosts and

sits on with Hillary and Bill Clinton at just these you know, in the

small restaurant at just the regular table. And then Danny, being the chairman

of the board, like you know, the particular head of the Democratic Party

matches, goes and sits with them. And I'm looking at them. And

at the time, they took a picture of everybody and they cropped me out

of it national They had Bill Berry backets, but since I was on the

side of Danny was sitting and he left, I guess there was nobody sitting

behind next to me, so they cropped me out and that went the New

York Times national photo. But I'm looking at Bill Cashing and he has remember

those eyes when you met him, those eyes that you know used to make

I guess all theaman have bowel movements from the Britches if he gave him that

a look. You know, he's looking at Hillary and he's pointing and he's

talking, you know, and her and Bill are looking at him intently.

And what he told me later, he says, you can't rely on these

kids. You've got to you screw it up. You have to do both.

You have to listen to the vocal people. You have to use the

vocal people. That's why you're failing. And you know, this was a

guy that helped Bill. You know, people need to know. In the

New Hampshire primary, a lot of people came in second and who considered victors.

Eugene McCarthy came in a close second and LBJ the who was sitting president.

No, you know, that was the end of it for him.

George mcgobern came in seconds to the senator muskie from Maine, who was considered

the front runner because he's been the vice presidential nominee with Humphrey in sixty eight.

He wins the nomination. You know, coming in a close second can

be a victory. But here's a guy that helped Bill Clinton. When the

primary become president and uh, you know what happened after the New Hampshire primary.

Bernie Finders won an overwhelming victory in twenty sixteen, and they shook up

the They immediately shook up the campaign staff and they went but you know,

Hillary being Hillary, she went more to the DNC huh right, professionals,

but not not kids that she can control. She took on like equals because

you remember at the time they were saying that she wanted to distance herself from

her husband's campaign. Yeah, former you know, campaign apparatus and people to

be your own person. That worked out great for Algor Yeah well John,

Yeah, we gotta go, We gotta go. And it happens, you

know, people shake up their campaign. Yes, they have some more tales

to tell. I'm taking up too much of your time. Yeah, we're

coming up on the top of the hour. We've got some musical guests coming

in. I think I think I see musicians in the hallway, So we

will we will have to move along. But I appreciate the call. Yeah,

I'll see soon. Take care, all right, John, thank you

bye. But all right, that was the great John Hopwood And yeah,

de Santis, you know, we'll see again. We'll see if he changes

direction. I mean, if I were, if I were run to Santas's

new campaign manager, that the two bits of advice I would give him,

neither of which I think he would take. One is I would tell him

he's gonna have to start going at Trump, like really going at him,

because if if you know, he and some of the other candidates, some

of the other candidates on the Republican side here, it seems like they're sort

of on this dual track where they're all where they're they're opponents of Trump because

they're running against him for the nomination, but simultaneously they're also surrogates for Trump

because they're also kind of talking about how great he is because they don't dare

upset the megabase. Obviously there are exceptions like Chris Christie and so forth.

But uh, you know, I would say to de Santis, look,

you're number two in this race. You're the guy who is supposed to be

able to beat Trump. Maybe you should start campaigning like that's what you're actually

trying to do. And DeSantis, you know, he'll be somewhat critical,

but he doesn't like to say Trump's name and tries to avoid that if he

can't. And the other thing I would the other bit of advice that I

would have for Desantist again, if I were as campaign manager, I would

say, and there's already been a slight change with this anyway, but I

would say, no more with the you know, anti woke stuff. Your

answer to every single question and every media interview should not be well, we

have to do something about wokesm Don't get me wrong. Obviously, there is

a large segment of the Republican Party of Republican voters to whom that appeals.

They love the culture war stuff, they eat it up. But I think

there's also a large and there's polling data the shows this, there's also a

large contingent of the Republican Party there really has no use for it, and

is tends to be more practical and pragmatic about things, and isn't so much

into the culture war stuff. You know, there's plenty of suburban educated Republicans,

moderate Republicans who you know, probably sitting at the table, sitting at

their desk at home, looking at their electric bill which is fifty percent higher

than it was a year ago. Going well, I know, I'm supposed

to be really angry at trans people, but I'm not sure how that's going

to help me pay this electric bill. You know. I know I'm supposed

to be really angry about critical race theory, but is that really going to

help me buy groceries? I'm not sure that it is. You know.

So there's I think there's a very large segment of the Republican Party that just

you know, they listen to somebody like de Santis and ever the answered everything

is, well, it's wokeism. We have to defeat wokeism. And they're

just kind of rolling their eyes and they're going, this is the guy who's

supposed to be the alternative to Trump. So so I would I would definitely

make some changes. I mean, and as far as going to Trump harder

than he is, what does he have to lose? You know, he

can continue to try to walk that line between political opponent and supplicant, much

like Mike Pence does so masterfully. Mike Pence, though clearly he knows he's

not going to be the nominee, he's just trying to trying to sell some

books. Then to Saantis probably knows he's not going to be the nominee as

well, and he's probably gonna make another run in twenty twenty eight, and

he's just kind of, you know, trying to get the hang of it

now so he knows what to do and what not to do in twenty twenty

eight. But but we'll see. It'll be interesting to see if anything changes

with this campaign shake up. All right, we are approaching the top of

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Tuesday, August eight, two thousand to twenty three, and we have Eric

at the news desk. Welcome, Hello, thank you could to see him.

Matt and Carlo on the couch right on the couch. How did you

get the couch? By the way, Well, there's a story there,

but I'm not sure we should go into that right now. All right,

all right? And and who are we missing? And feel free to make

up a ridiculous story about I suppose we could. Probably that would be better

than the truth. I think it's more it's more fun if if you come

up with a story, not to put you on the spot. Well,

we're missing Mark. Mark is our bass player. Yes, and I'm trying

to remember whether he stubbed his toe or if he hurt his wrist combination.

I think he uh stubbed his toe while hurting his wrist. That's that's probably

what I would get a visual of that, right, which has happened a

couple of times with Mark and oh my well, he's a very dynamic individual

and he moves around and jumps around a lot. Yeah. Yeah, you

know a lot of times lands on his toe. Well, that's that's understandable.

Well, actually there's truth of that. I think he hurt his toe

last week, right, it was, so that's not all. Well,

thoughts and prayers for Mark, thank you, well, Well, welcome guys.

By the way, uh Mike from Queen City Cabinetry, one of our

sponsors here at w MNH set in the chat room. This is a really

good song. I would definitely hit repeat, and Jay Fed from the Great

State of Vermont says, I dig that song. Cool, So you're getting

some some love in the appreciate that. Now, what do you got?

So Mark is the bass player, So what do you guys each doing the

band? So I sing and play the guitar, Carlo is in drums.

Yeah, all percussion. So you got like a it's like a power trio

basically exactly. But is there a fourth? Is there a fourth individual who

does. Yeah, there is another guitar player that sits in with us,

uh most of the time, on and and Uh. Yeah, we have

mystery men that do all kinds of interesting things through the band, but on

and is the most regular. On And is our other guitar player. Gotcha,

gotcha? So is on and Is Uh there are only occasionally for live

shows or consistently or most of the time, So it kind of depends on

the on the on the event, you know. I mean, sometimes we're

an acoustic format and it calls for a smaller a smaller thing, and sometimes

it's a bigger thing, and so he does the bigger things, I guess

is the way we most simply describe it. Gotcha, Yeah, gotcha?

And how long has the band been around, because it looks like you've got

a fair amount of music online from what I saw, looks like you've been

at it for a while. We have, yes, a long time.

Well not, I mean in this room, I'm the young member, but

it's been for more than ten years. Oh yeah, for sure, to

the point that we don't like our the music that we first wrote right right,

for sure, we're trying to move on from that. But no,

I think. I think our first recordings were done in twenty twelve, and

the band, you know, it started before that and sort of evolved.

We actually kind of started as a cover band playing clubs here in Manchester and

around Boston in southern Hampshire, and slowly started to work our own material into

into our shows and eventually started to record that material. And so twenty twelve

is when we started to start to push the original stuff. And so that's

I think officially when we became an original band. Okay, which it actually

isn't as long as I thought, but no, in shorter or longer,

I'm not sure I know. But anyway, we've been doing it a while,

I always say, and I say it only half kidding. I feel

like the COVID pandemic kind of created this weird time distortion thing where sometimes things

happened longer ago, they seem like they either didn't happen as long ago as

they actually did, or they seem longer ago or something. It's really it's

really odd. And I run into that a lot, specifically with musicians when

we're talking about how, you know, how long ago did you record this

or whatnot? And you know, I'll have a I had a band in

here recently. It was like they had they had just recorded something and uh

like two years ago, twenty twenty one, but one of the members was

convinced it was like twenty eighteen. It was. It's just interesting how that

how that works. But COVID changed the music business so much, I mean

all live entertainment obviously because we weren't gathering and so it really changed it for

a lot of musicians. And you know, we're fortunate we have other ways

of paying the bills sometimes, but but those that were fully dependent on,

you know, playing for a living had a really hard time. Absolutely absolutely,

And it seems like there's been some lasting changes too, because you know,

when the pandemic started to wrap up and things opened up, you know,

all of a sudden, a lot of bands are playing out again because

they can. But but then it's like, now, you know, I

again. I have a lot of different musicians on the show, and different

people have different approaches. But some of the bands I talked to now they're

kind of like, yeah, we're doing you know, maybe one show a

month. We're not really you know, gas is expensive, it's uh,

you know, we can do live performances in our living room and stream it,

you know, and are really kind of pulling back, which to me

is is interesting and it's it's hard to fathom in a way because so I

don't I don't play anymore. But I used to play in a lot of

bands, and my my thing was always I just wanted to play out.

I wanted to play as many shows as possible because being on stage was my

favorite thing in the world. Sure, I just wanted to that's all I

want. I mean, I was in I was in a couple of bands

where we probably oversaturated because we played so much. But I wanted to be

out there every weekend, and I didn't care if we were playing the same

bar two weekends in a row or you know, which, you know,

not a great idea necessarily, but I didn't care. And but it's interesting

now some bands are really kind of pulling back, and then there's others,

you know, who are just you know, playing every weekend and and really

really trying to still push it. But I think the period right before COVID,

who knows what date that was, but that that summer season, we

were we were actually very busy. Yeah, we were playing a lot all

over the Northeast, touring as far down as Virginia. I mean it was

we were very, very busy, and so we were definitely gearing up for

another very busy touring season and then you know, Comproof. But and we

certainly haven't returned to that. To your point, a lot of bands musicians

have not returned to the hectic schedule of playing out as much as possible because

I think we've all discovered that there's just different ways of getting the music out

there for people to listen to. Especially as an original band, you know,

just we have to take advantage of all those methods, and those methods

were proven during COVID. We were able to get music two people. We

actually did a music video during COVID. We we filmed a video, one

of these you know, hands off, you know, mask one kind of

video things for one of our one of our most popular songs, Oh yeah,

never next week and U. But it was actually a very clever video

the way we did it, and I think it'll it'll stand the test of

time. And one could look at it and say, oh, that's how

they responded during COVID, or one could look at it and say, no,

that's just a cool music video. Yeah, you know, it's got

two different I think shapes to it, which is not exactly what we were

going for, but it's how it turned out, right, right, So

yeah, definitely changed the landscape for sure. Yeah, no doubt. Well

I always say too, you know, we have to obviously, you know,

the pandemic was awful for a number of reasons, but you know,

we have to find these silver linings where we can. And one silver lining

is the timing of it. Because if if it had happened twenty years ago

or even ten years earlier than it did, you know, we were fortunate

that it had happened at a time when we have all this technology and and

it kind of forced people to embrace technology in ways that they hadn't before.

But some of what we were seeing, like, you know, I saw

examples of actually very famous and successful bands doing these you know, these these

uh streams online where they're all they're all at home, but they're playing together,

you know, and and for performances and and you know, in lieu

of of touring and pretty remarkable stuff. And I just I feel like if

it had happened, if this had happened twenty years ago. You know,

before we had things like zoom and you know, social media every yeah yeah,

career ending probably oh yeah, yeah, it would have been it would

have been much worse than that sense. So we're lucky that it happened at

a time when we have the technology absolutely, and uh, you know,

it seems to happen about once a century, so hopefully we don't have to

go through it ever again. We're baby yeah, yeah, so you guys

aren't so you guys now you're but you're you're playing out a lot, right,

just not not as much necessarily as before the pandemic. Yeah, I

mean, you know, we have different reasons. We have families and things

that we have to be respectful of. But we you know, like you,

we love performing and I think best not broken really throughout our history has

been a live band. That's kind of what we are. And uh yeah,

unlike some other bands that uh they can put out material and never play

and be okay with that, that's kind of not how That's kind of not

how we do it. And yeah, so we're doing We're doing as much

as we can. I think, you know, we go through spells of

being really busy and spells of slowing down a little bit, but that's the

nature of the business. But we love every time we step on a stage.

Is Summer your busiest time? Sure? Usually is? Yeah. Usually

I think it starts like in May goes through September. You know, that

seems to be the season where a lot of bands are out touring, and

so we're either you know, either supporting some major acts or performing on our

own. I mean, you know, I would say the last well,

certainly this year and I guess last year too, right, we've kind of

kept it a little more regional. We've been more in New England, I

suppose than we haven't really branched out from there yet. But you know,

I'm not saying we won't. It's coming, I'm sure. Yeah, But

as you said earlier, you know, more selective maybe, you know,

yeah, yeah. Well. The other thing for us is we're you know,

we're in the process. There was Covid wasn't great for us in terms

of producing material, and we're now we're in the process of putting a new

album out and so oftentimes the performances follow the you know, follow the live

recordings because you're out promoting those recordings, and so we're We just released a

song three two a couple of week a couple weeks ago, which is the

first single on our next album, which is called if It Feels Right Ep.

Actually, it'll be probably six songs on it and the rest of it's

coming out next month, so there'll be some shows that we do in support

of that. Yeah, we've got a fun one coming up. We're gonna

be with the Smashing Pumpkins up at at Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion and Guildford.

What is that two weeks from now, a couple of weeks. Excellent,

excellent, congratulations, thanks, very good. It's funny because are you

know, back in the day we all used to listen to Smashing Pumpkins,

and we still do sometimes, but our music probably back then was a lot

more like them. It's evolved in a different way and it'll be interesting to

see how it, you know, how it goes. Yeah, the folks

that are going to see Smashing Pumpkins, but we're gonna have funny the way.

It'll be good. Have you guys opened for a lot of a lot

of big acts that have come through. We've had it. We've been very

fortunate. Yeah, we've we've we've done some good ones. I'll tell you

when we did this year. Which still sticks with me is the now I

forgot the name guess the guests who? Yeah, the guests who? And

and and when that was first offered to us, I think there was some

like you know, the guess who Who's that again? Kind of thing?

And then you you queue up their collection and their music is absolutely iconic.

I mean it defined a generation. I mean that's pretty big stuff. So

we were really honored to be a part of that show that was over in

Salisbury, mass That was a good show at the Blue Ocean Music Hall.

Great great venue if you've been there, it's a wonderful venue to play and

uh and to see a you know, some music. So you know,

every year we seem to get three or four you know, good opening slots,

which gives us an opportunity to promote ourselves and gather new fans and uh,

you know, sometimes we get a few, sometimes we don't. Put

you know, it's a it's a it's a big live show, you know.

And so for us, for people to see us live, I think

they really get a sense of the fun that we're having and uh, and

and the kind of music that we're making, you know, and hopefully get

somebody to, you know, buy a few records along the way and listen

to some music. But it's been good. We've been lucky. You guys

have merch bring the shows we do. We just came out with a fabulous

T shirt. You know why it's fabulous because our pictures are on it.

We've never done a T shirt with our pictures on it. And most of

the feedback we got was what in the heck are your pictures doing on the

shirt? But no, it's a good group shot. It's a funny.

We actually did the photo shoot for it in Manchester, yeah, right,

was here in Manchester on the old railroad tracks or somewhere up the road here,

and it was a cool shot. We always liked that, you know,

it was a cool photo. Right. Yeah, it ended up being

on a shirt and I don't know, we've we've sold quite a few of

them, we have, and the one thing we forgot to do is bring

one here today. But that's okay, because we're gonna We're gonna either come

back we're make Yeah. Yeah, definitely cool. Cool, Yeah, it's

funny. I was just reading recently about how there was a time when people

thought, people in the music industry thought in terms of merchandise, that you

couldn't you couldn't put a for a men's shirt. You know, for women

it was different, but for men, you couldn't put pictures of a male

band's faces on a shirt because dudes wouldn't wear a shirt with other men's faces

on it. Interesting, this was I had read something actually, Rolling Stone

had something about this from way back. She's when I was a kid,

actually when Daryl Hall and John Oates their manager at the time, Tommy Mottola,

who went on to do other things. But that was apparently that was

a big discussion in that camp was do we put out do we do we

bother putting out men's shirts with Darryl and John's faces on them because our men

going to wear that, and and I guess even to this day people debate

about that. But then it's funny because last week I had Andy Klesnski.

I don't know if you know him. He's a singer songwriter from the Sea

Coast. He was here and just coincidentally he happened to have he was wearing

a Michael McDonald's shirt with Michael McDonald's face on it, and I didn't even

realize it but at first, and then the subject of Michael McDonald came up

and I was like, oh, he's on your shirt. And then that

made me think of you know, that whole that whole discussion of that debate

about I had no idea that ever happened. My my favorite album cover ever

was the Police the I forget the name of the album, but it was

the Police and their three pictures are on it. And actually we're sort of

going for that kind of a thing. Yeah, yeah, on this on

this T shirt. We didn't quite get it, but we made it our

own. Yeah, it's a fun it's not it's a more of a funny

shirt, you know, kind of goes with our vibe. You know,

we're having fun and you know, dressed in some sort of costume and uh

yeah, I mean it's it's just a funny kind of thing. But it

is what you mentioned, merchandise. It's the first time we've done something.

Normally, it's like some graphic right like something. Maybe it's the maybe it's

the the EP cover or something. But this time, yeah, we went

a little we went a little outside and I'm gonna have to think about that

now, how many guys. We should do a survey to see how many

guys actually bought the shirt, right, I mean, I hope they do.

Some have already so we know it's working. A yeah they have.

Yeah. Yeah, I think hip hop kind of changed that that stigma two

of of of guys wearing a shirts with other guys faces, you know,

because once hip hop started to get really big, you know, it wasn't

unusual to see somebody wearing a you know, a Snoop Dogg shirt with Snoop

Dogg's actual face on it. But if only we were as cool as Snoop

Dogg's, right, that guy, Yeah, that guy. It's incredible that

he never stops. He's he's He's one of those few people who can be

you know, he can still be edgy with his music and whatnot and just

swearing and everything, but also have that side to him that's very family friendly.

I I'm not sure I can think of another example of somebody quite like

that who occupies that space the way that he does. It's a good point.

I'm not sure I can't either. Yeah. No, part of why

I was asking about merch too, is it seems like, you know,

because we were talking about playing shows and how expensive, you know, it's

more expensive than it used to be to travel and so forth. And it

seems like there's a push within the music industry now too for everybody to really

sell more merch because it's the one thing, you know, as far as

selling your music, you know, Spotify gives you, uh, you know,

big money, big money. Yeah. Yeah, the streaming services don't

give you much, and and uh, you know, and touring, you

know, a lot of your a lot of that money ends up going into

your gas tank and and paying for whatever else. And so it seems like

merch is because he can't download a T shirt, at least not yet.

I thought when three D printers came out that was going to kill the merch

thing, and then it just didn't happen. I'm not sure why, but

I guess it's a good thing it didn't happen, because then that'd be another

revenue stream download down down the toilet, Melanie and the chat room says,

uh, you know, Jay was just saying that he wished he had a

shirt with Matt's face on it. We actually now see my shirts. See

I've got these uh, Matt Connerton unleashed shirts. But that's not really Oh

yeah, that's cool, but that's like a representation of my it's not my

actual face. It's it's like me as an anime character, you know.

Oh beautiful, yeah from here. Yeah. Brendan McCormick. Uh, he

very very talented graphic artist who works here. Actually, he he designed the

logo and then we put it on the back of these shirts and uh,

it's Remember when he showed it to me and he was like, he was

a little bit cheapish about it. He didn't know if I was gonna like

it because it's a little outside the box and I was never in anime,

but I knew enough about it too. I recognize that there's an anime called

Devil May Cry, and I only knew knew this because I used to work

in a store that's old DVDs, okay, so we had an anime section.

So when I saw it, I was like, oh my god,

I love it. And it's been around I have to see oh yeah,

yeah, yeah, I don't know if the shirt, the shirt might be

a little faded, but he's coming over for a firsthand look. Yeah,

that's very cool. Yeah, yeah, and then Jenny had shirts made up

and yeah, and that that became the we might have to steal that concept

the official logo. Yeah, yeah, it's it's very cool. Yes,

have had it? Oh. Mike from Queen City Cabinetry says, my son

has worn that T shirt at It's his absolute favorite. Yes. Uh.

And Mike was also asking about the songs I played. So I played,

Uh, I played Brain earlier and uh I also played I opened the show

today without song kids, which is so catchy awesome. Who right, do

you guys all write together? Or who writes the song? Yeah? I

write everything and then I submit it to Eric for approval. He throws it

in the trash and rewrites everything in a more perfect sense. The truth is,

Carlo writes all of our bridges. No one is allowed to write a

bridge unless Carlo has approved it. But yeah, so we we you know,

it's every song is a little bit different. I mean, you know,

I'm a songwriter and Mark our bass player as a songwriter, and so

we both bring in a lot of ideas and some of them are more fully

formed by the time they get to the band, and some of them aren't,

and some of them sort of come together when we're together. But you

know, it's amazing. A lot of people say, I mean, we're

joking around, a lot of people say drummers don't write, but it's amazing

what you know, when when Carlo lays down on a pattern or rhythm,

what that can do to kind of change the dynamic of a song and move

it in a certain direction. So, I you know, it's it's a

very collaborative process. Even though you know, we're the guys playing the guitars

and singing the lyrics and writing some of the stuff. It doesn't work unless

we do it together a lot of ways. Yeah, yeah, And the

drums sound incredible. By the way, where do you guys record because the

drums really because not everyone gets that right when recording producing drums, you know,

but you can hear every you can hear everything, every tom, every

I mean, it's just sounds so good. Yeah, it's true. We

we've been lucky to work with a couple of really good studios that really understand

your point of making the drums sound good. You know, I mean obviously

pretty biased towards the sound, but you know, when you're when you're building

a piece of music, it starts with the drums, right and it starts

with the drums and goes to the bass right away, because that's the that's

the foundation of it, you know. And so we've we've been lucky to

have a couple of real good producers work with us and recording engineers that understand

that and get a just actually they get a very good sound. It's like

the foundation of a house. I mean, truly, you can't have a

you can't have a good song the way we try to write songs unless the

drums sound good. We've we've made that mistake and we never want to make

it again. But uh, and I think today, you know, with

hip hop becoming such a big deal, you know, the last twenty years,

and so many contemporary songs relying very heavily on the rhythm and the groove,

it's like that you're hearing that and you're hearing the lyrics and the rest

of the stuff in some cases just sort of washed out in the middle.

Sure, sure, you got it. So people are looking for the rhythm,

yeah, looking for the groove, and you gotta get it right.

But we typically well will record with Dave Minihan down at Wooly Mammoth Studios and

Waltham. Dave David. Oh, that's a name I've definitely heard. Yeah,

Dave is a you know, he's a Boston legend. Really, we've

been very fortunate that he's he's been willing to take us on and but you

know, he when Brad Whitford was not healthy, he was playing with Aerosmith

and he's played with the replacements. He's a guitar player too, okay with

the replacements, and but he's an amazing producer in his own right. He's

a great musician. Or fortunate now that he's kind of playing with us because

she's actually on most of the most of the songs out now. Yeah.

In fact, he did a lot of the background vocals for one of these

tunes that's coming out next month, which is which I'm excited to put out

called That's the Way She likes It, And it's kind of a song that

draws on influences from some of the eighties and nineties stuff, but real heavy

background vocals, which are very cool. Yeah, looking forward to that one.

But it starts with the drums, it does, Yeah, it does.

How did you get to working with Minahan? What's his first name Mike

Uh. He moved to Waltham from the Boston area many many years ago,

and I think it happened because I was reading a story about his move to

this new studio and it was just about the time I was getting ready to

record my first batch of songs and I was looking for some help, and

I sent him my stuff and I said, what do you think, thinking

that he would say either nothing, I don't think much. But fortunately he

said, hey, actually that's pretty cool. Why don't you come down and

we'll talk a little bit. And I did, and that was the beginning.

He We did an EP that was again back in twenty and twelve.

It took us a while to record that. Carlin knows we taked a longer

record, especially when it by myself, but but it came out really well.

The funny thing is I went in with a completely different vision of what

we ended up with, and at the end of the day, I don't

know whether it's good or bad. You know. I was at the time

actually going in more of a synthesizer, you know, type of direction,

and Dave sort of brought it back to more of an acoustic guitar based a

little bit more of a classic sound which worked really well for those songs,

and he was probably right. Yeah, but we've you know, we've managed

over the years to weave in some of the new stuff and keep some of

the you know, the more traditional organic sounds acoustic guitars and electric tars and

that kind of stuff. But there's a couple of songs on that first album

though, that continually get requested. It shows true. So, I mean,

it's funny we've played them. It's an older piece, but it seems

like they're the ones, you know, people want to hear. Yeah,

those that have been around for a while, they remember some of those tuns

pretty good days. The one that that stands out to me that was on

the first album that people tend to like. But we like the new stuff

too. Yeah. Yeah, Now, are are you guys from Boston or

are you we are from the stuff? We're from the general area. We've

sort of bounced back and forth between Boston and southern New Hampshire. The band

collectively, we've are members of sort of zigzagged around the area. So we

kind of consider ourselves a greater Boston band, but right now we've got some

roots in southern New Hampshire, and but the area has been very good to

us. We've you know, we've kind of started in Manchester and sort of

grew from there. You know, we have regular stuff we do now up

in Burlington and and we've you know, as Carlos said, we get down

as far as Virginia, New York has been a more regular thing. We

haven't been down there in a while because Philly, we haven't had stuff to

promote. I think probably that's coming up in the not too just in future.

Cool, cool, very good. Well, actually, why don't we

Uh, we'll take a break and play another track here. Uh, let's

see you sent me. Oh it didn't one of the things. You didn't

send me this one. But you said there's a new single that came out

recently. I did. It's called I Don't Belong, and I thought I

sent it to you. Oh you did send me that. Okay, No,

you did. I'm sorry. I don't know why I was for some

reason, I thought you had said something else. But my brain is mush

swept times. I probably have a our often is too. We do some

of our best work. Our brain is mush. Here we go, here

we go. I got it, Okay, here it is. Yeah,

I like actually, yeah, I like this one a lot too. This

is really good. So let's do this. We'll we'll give this a listen.

If you're just joining us. We've got two of the guys, Eric

and Carlo from the band Best Not Broken, are here with us live in

studio and we've been talking and we're gonna listen to another track here. So

this is called I Don't Belong and this is the newest single just within the

last couple of weeks. Yeah, it's just out two weeks here, two

and a half weeks ago. Again, Yeah, excellent, excellent, all

right, check this out. I Don't Belong from Best Not Broken. I'm

walking in the home room, remember about I'm Bom Bom. I see my

Kicken cimmers or Warzar girl's head stern. I've got my jeans, pig mullet,

done with Hess Gray. We've been walking new way Coopa's and a fresh

ship. Want to be rock star Ribben in my new car, Hotei's in

the back, y'all, bat I got nothing so far? Can I get

up? Can I get up? Can I get up? Can I get

up? Can I get up? Stay tr to get her real job?

Interviewed with a shot. Ask me what I want to say. I don't

want to keep my hair along for me in a high rise when you with

some rich guys stirting with a deep swap. Now I'm making a French prize.

I'm not a quick learn Maybe it's the side of birds like now if

you want to know about at least I made some heads turn? Can I

get up? Can I get up? Can I get up? Can I

get up? I don't everybody? I don't stay as you go. I

don't so much. I don't know why. And you belong some slaps that

you just can't time. When you ask foot ten much, you just got

nine hair. Everything is fine, just that much. Can I get up?

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zo three two five zero six zero seven. And guys, that's a very

very catchy I caught myself singing along to it, so that's uh that probably

happen. I would imagine when you play that at shows, you probably get

get people singing along. Right now, does it gets a real good response,

singing, clapping? I think, uh, I think the video actually,

I think people that see the video might be amused because we released a

video at the same time and uh, it's uh, it's one of our

We're very proud of it because we uh we look like absolute before it was

absolutely ridiculous, fully ridiculous, but we sort of captured the essence of the

song. I think yeah, and it happened fast. I was shocked we

were able to pull together. But we would encourage your listeners if they like

that tune to check out the video for I Don't Belong on YouTube. It's

there and you get a good laugh there and waiting for you. Very good,

very good. Yeah, it's funny. That's another subject that's come up

a lot on the show lately as videos, because there's some people, I

don't know if you guys run into this at all. This there's some people

who have this perception that music videos are and a dead art form because you

know, MTV hasn't played videos in decades, and it's like, it's funny,

but I run into people who don't seem to realize that actually, because

of YouTube, there's more music videos being made than ever. Oh yeah,

Like like when Beyonce puts out a new album, for example, you know

she's got the money to do it. When she puts out a new album,

every single song on the album has a video, right, It's it's

it's actually more than ever. People want to see that multi media entertainment.

You know, they want to They want to get a bigger picture of what

certainly want to see the artists. You know, they're hoping to see the

artists in the in the video. And it just provides a more multidimensional musical

experience as opposed to just you know, listening to music. I mean,

and I think you might capture the interest a little more, like people will

listen to the entire song, as opposed to when you're streaming, you know,

they're gonna get a minute or so in and like all right, moving

to the next one, moving the next one, the next one, click

click, click, click click. But a video, you're probably gonna watch

the whole thing. It's a it's an interesting phenomenon. I mean, as

a musician now, you know that if you don't put a video out with

a song, you're missing listeners or viewers. You're missing missing people that might

otherwise see it. But it's also interesting because it truly changes the dynamic of

how people experience a song. Right because in the old days, when there

was no video, or now when there's no video, you know, you

you come up with your own images, right yeah, but you're worse to

follow the images that are put out in this video, which I think sometimes

great and sometimes not. But but it's a new way of experience it for

sure. Yeah. It's funny though, it's like we're time traveling in a

way, because this is the same conversation that people had when on shows like

this when MTV first went on the air, right, and artists would talk

about, Yeah, you know now you're you know, you're assigning these images

to the video, which to the song rather which might be a good thing

or might not. And you know, and I still want to be on

MTV. Can we still do that? Yeah? I want my MTVO.

That sounds like there must be h there must still be videos on there somewhere

right there. I'm sure there must be like a like a twenty minute video

show or something. We're on MTV, But yeah, reality television just completely

took over and write and they, I guess in the nineties, right,

I think it's been that long. Yep. Yeah, wow, Yeah,

we haven't done our own reality show yet. We're gonna leave them. How

many videos have you guys? Have you guys shot? What do you think?

That's a good question, but there's enough to keep you busy. I

would say probably ten. Yeah, something like that maybe maybe a little more.

Some are more involved than others. Yeah, I know. The first

one that I participated in was for Won't Stop Loving You, which was a

very elaborate production and a very moving video. I would say that was the

most emotional video that we've made. And if you put a bunch of people

in a room, I guarantee you a bunch of them are going to be

crying by the time they get to the end of that video. It's very,

very touching and it's a great song, we think so. But our

ore it's another one. It's a fan favorite. Yeah, you know,

it's from an earlier record and they seem to love that song, so we

like playing it. But our videos ranged from serious to absolute insanity, and

maybe that's a good thing. I don't know. I hope, so,

yeah, I hope, so, I hope. So now the videos,

do you do you have someone you work with on those? Or do you

do them? You're because we do? Okay, So I was gonna say,

we live in an era where really you can you can do it all

yourself. It's pretty remarkable you can if you're if you're that talented, you

know, yeah, we're uh no, we have helpers, Yeah, helpers

are necessary for us. Do you work with the same people on each Have

you worked with the same people on each video? Or is there a production

company we have? Yeah, yeah, we've There's a company called One oh

six Studios out of Boston that we've been using recently. Travis Gray has been

the lead guy for us and that's gone very well. We've used other people

in the past, but Travis has been doing good work for us. They

excellent, excellent. And what are the live shows like? Do you guys

do you have any uh, you do any kind of elaborate stage show or

anything, or do you do you just play or any kind of theatrics or

do you save that for the videos? Well, you know, I mean,

so we have we do a range of shows, you know, I

mean, we're we are prem merely an original band, but we do shows

where we'll mix covers into into our shows. Some of them are more cover

oriented, but really the focus of what we do is is original material.

But the reason I say that is because you know, some of these shows

tend to be a little more grueling, like three hours long or four hours

long, and the dynamic is a little bit different than a short and sweet,

action packed, true best not broken original show. But we one of

the things we try to do is really have great energy when we put on

a show, and we try and go out and leave it all on the

stage. We're all athletes, and probably because we're we wish that we could

still be as competitive as we once were. We had the only place we

can do it is on the stage, and so we occasionally stub our toes

and fall out of things, but we try to do lots of jumping.

But so, yeah, it's a we hope that it's an engaging and action

packed show. It should be that. Yeah, I can tell you.

I'm reminded of a story. Maybe we should we should share of we we

we all I don't know, so I don't know whether we should share or

not. We we'll find out together. It was it was a live constant.

We didn't at the Tupelow below Music in Derry and it was outdoors during

the period where they were doing outdoor shows if you remember that, which was

very clever. Quite frankly. Anyway, we headlined a show and uh As

Zeric said, it's a it's an action packed show. I mean, the

drummer just has to sit there most of the time, but the rest of

the guys were moving around quite a bit on stage, and we had a

choreographed piece of the show, remember where we were doing some things. And

the point of this story is it was about one hundred and fifty degrees out

and the sun was hitting that stage, and you know, you're you're driven

by the music and the fan interact. It was a sold out show,

so a lot of people, and you're feeding off that energy, but at

some point it's just not enough. It was so hot out, you know,

I think we were all feeling a little faint. And there's a there's

a particular thing. You'll have to come to one of our shows. This

particular thing we do at the end where this guy runs around it just does

something absolutely crazy, and it was great. You know, we're watching the

whole things happen and people were plotting blah blah blah blah, and that's the

end of the show. Encore is over and we got to the back,

you remember, and he was he was white as a sheet. I thought

I literally thought he was going to pass out because he was so active and

it was so hot out. Yeah, you can't hydrate on stage really,

so you know, you're just giving it all. And that was quite a

quite a performance, I would say that was a Yeah. So I tried

to get a little exercise and this this is one of those times where I

almost didn't make it back to the stage. Wow, I almost. And

we've had a couple of those lately. In fact, we were down in

Salisbury a few weeks ago and I almost didn't make it back to the stage,

which would have been terrible because you guys would have had to clean up

up by yourself. Yeah, somehow I feel like that was part of the

plan. Might have, but it might have been. I was in the

big I was in the big band van Wow. Well, you know I

always say rock and roll should be sweaty, but but you don't want you

know, heat stroke or anything like that either. No, definitely try to

keep it as safe as we can. I will tell you our our fabulous

bass player who couldn't make it today with his broken toe. Uh, carries

a fan with him every show. He has a fan set up because I

think he sweats the most of all of us, Oh my god, and

he and this fan is just always running. He doesn't Well, Actually,

the truth is there we have levels of fan. I mean he has this

standard fan, yeah, but then we have a super hot show, we

upgrade to the big fan, and then we can actually double fan. If

we have the double fan, I would say that the worst. So the

one time when Mark was sweating so much and nothing a fan could possibly do.

The video that we shot for the song Kids, which I think you

play it earlier. Yeah, had Mark at the beginning in a kangaroo outfit,

and at the end he had to go because we ran out of time,

and so I briefly had to play the kangaroo. And I put on

the kangaroo outfit and I couldn't feel the outfit because it was mush. It

was actually it was mush. It was set probably the most disgusting thing I've

ever filled in my life. God, and so I no longer I no

longer even will look at kangaroos. But does it make you feel closer to

him? I try to stay further away Mark, If you're listening, I'm

I'm actually currently trying to get further away from you. Wow, that's funny.

Eric, you ever do any radio or a voiceover work or anything?

Never, I'm sure I'm not the only one who's ever asked you that.

I can't be the first one to ever ask you that it's possible you are.

I'm no, I've never done it. You've got because you've got the

voice. Carlo doesn't any of the you've got the voice for radio. Yes,

you think you've got one of those voices. I'm actually jealous of because

I'm very you know, I'm able to evaluate myself pretty honestly. I I

think I know I have a good radio voice. But you have a great

radio voice. I've never you've never done a podcast or anything. I've never

done a podcast. No, no car commercial, a car commercial, that

would be that would be fun for real, definitely real. Well we need

a hit. Maybe we can find a hit in the auto commercial. Yeah,

car commercial jingle? Can you can you auto tune in radio? Can

you live auto tuning? No? I just I just imagine you're narrating it.

You know you could narrate the I've never tried it. I mean,

I you know, I read I read books for people. Do Yeah,

I do. Mostly my kids makes sense. They don't tell they don't tell

you they love your voice. They've never said that. They're usually mad at

me. Because it's bedtime and it's like, dad, what are you doing?

Right? Right? It'll put us to bed. They're used to it.

You see your voice. Jay Fed in the chat says, do you

play birthday parties? I think we have done parties? Well? Remember how

I jumped out of that cake. Oh I don't remember that. Oh we

do. Probably, we do private events occasionally. Most of what we do

is in support of our music, but we do private events occasionally. Yea.

So he's been asking, he's been looking for someone to play his wife's

birthday party, Melanie's birthday party. I believe it's in September. Now.

The thing is, I should tell you though, in case you do get

you take a commission. I know, no, no, no, it's

not that. Uh he might try to get you to commit to uh,

if you're gonna go up there to commit to an ice bath. Oh,

So I thought I should mention that, just to kind of warn you that

that might be part of the deal. Okay, And I don't know.

Personally, I wouldn't do it. I you know, hypothermia, things like

that. Apparently there are health benefits, but I'm just worried about freezing to

death. So I personally wouldn't do it, but I think I should warn

you guys. Yeah, yeah, it's something he does and he he invites

people into the ice bath apparently, so just something to keep in mind.

Yeah, I mean, you know, it could come to that, So

just so you know, we'll have to get our measure involved. Definitely,

there you go, by the way, Miriam Banish and the chat room says

like the harmony, referring to the song that we played there, the single

Oh thank You? Yeah, Well do you got so the vocals? Do

you guys all sing or how does that work? I definitely don't you know?

He know he's he's being modest. He is actually saying, in fact,

we've had some gigs where he'll he'll take the lead and do some crazy

stuff. But truth be told, the harmonies are actually a very important part

of our sound, and Mark and I really enjoy writing harmonies and singing harmonies,

and that's something we focus on and it's part of most of the songs

that you hear, Yeah from us, No, I notice that, But

Carlo, you sing live with the guys, I assume are very seldom.

Oh really, okay, I've got a lot of work to do. I'm

very busy back then. He is a busy guy. Yeah. Yeah,

well that's the thing. I had a band on recently with a singing drummer

where the drummer did the lead vocals. Yes, and that's something you very

rarely see. But it's such a physical instrument, so to have to play

drums and sing, even just doing backing vocals, it must be it's got

to be hard to do it. I think it would be tough. I

don't know, honestly, I don't know how they do it, you know,

they they sing a lot. Yeah, and uh, I don't think

I could do it, really can do it? Number one? I don't

think I can sing? Uh well and uh, but it's a lot of

work, do you know, to keep that, keep focused on that and

just have the the musician stuff just kind of happened automatically so you can focus

on the singings. Yeah, it's quite a bit of work. It's impressive.

Yeah, absolutely, they're quite talented, those two. On and I

just sit back and play music. We had a show actually, it was

actually at Blue Ocean Music Hall where we featured Carlo and On and uh singing.

That's right, we did. Who is that? I think that might

have been when we were with the Gym Blossoms Blossoms, I think it was.

Yeah, And and actually that was the last show where we ever allowed

them to sing publicly together. Imagine that. Really Yeah, so that should

tell you something there. You guys played with the Gym Blossoms. Huh we

did? We did? Really? Yeah, I can see that. I

can see that being a good dah. But I guess too though, with

with your sound, I mean, there's probably a lot of different bands you

fit well with. I would think you know your your sound. It's it's

very accessible, very radio friendly, but also this you know a mix of

influences in there. You know, the Sawing Kids is, like I said,

I opened with that today. That's so catchy. But but it seems

like everything is, you know, it's very sort of you know, you've

got those singalong choruses that you know, really hook people in. And uh,

who can you tell me who's who's a band that you've Are there any

bands that you've opened for that we're kind of Maybe you went into it thinking

I don't know if we fit has Has there been any kind of an odd

match that you've had with a band that you've opened for well, yes,

I would say so. So. Uh. Actually, I think Smashing Pumpkins

will be interesting because the more I listen to them, the more, yeah,

I realized that they're much heavier thre yeah than really we are now.

You know, back in the day, we were writing more rock oriented stuff

and now I kind of consider our stuff sort of indie pop, yeah,

and so it's veering away from that. So it'll be interesting to see how

that goes. But you know, uh, you know, we used to

occasionally play Bike Week and I was we've never been a biker band, right,

and have there thinking they're gonna throw us out of here, and actually

there are a lot of people that dug our stuff. So I've learned you

can't you can't make that judgment going into it. But probably the other one

that was a weird fit was Jason Derulo. Oh no, yeah, it

was a long time ago. Yeah, but yeah, we were asked to

come play with with him and it was just as he was, like,

you know, at his prime, and it was weird, but it sort

of was fine. It sort of went okay, Like I can see it

working though, ken you Yeah, because I'm trying to think now oh,

I'm drawn a blank. What was his really big big hit. I don't

even remember, because I don't know. He had more than one single that

did well, but there was one that was huge, and I can't remember.

I can't remember what it was now either that he had a short shelf

life. I think he was. He had come and gone pretty quick,

he did. But but yeah, but I can see that working, you

know, because again your sound is so accessible that you know, obviously a

lot of different you know, different kinds of people are gonna like it.

Is that something you do consciously, like in terms of writing and recording the

music? Is it? Do you consciously try to make songs that you know,

with with good hooks and and big, you know, sort of sing

along choruses. I think that, you know, every songwriter probably gravitates to

something. There's something that you know, as you're noodling around on your guitar

or humming melodies or whatever it maybe there's something that catches you about it.

Yeah, and I find for me, it's uh, you know, I

think I grew up listening to pop radio and uh uh, you know,

from all eras. I enjoyed all of it, and so I think those

those melodies stick with me, and those are the things, you know,

I find I won't write a song unless I feel like there's a catchy melody

that's going to value in somewhere in the song, and so right, that's

usually the basis of it. Then you try to build around it. So

I guess in that sense it is intentional. Yeah, yeah, well we

are. We are approaching the end of the show. I do want to

get one more one more song and uh at the end. But guys,

this has been wonderful. Thank you both so much. Thank you for having

us much. Absolutely appreciate absolutely. And what do you want to make sure

our our listeners know about where to find you online? Social media anything?

Website? We are we are everywhere. Uh. We get that question sometimes

you know, where can I find your music? And I think my answers,

where can't you? I mean it should be we're literally on every streaming

platform. We're on YouTube with the videos, We've got our website best not

broken dog yet that's kind of headquarters. I'm trying to think of what else,

all the basic stuff. I mean, you know, we're probably most

actives on Instagram and Facebook and that kind of stuff, and and we keep

updates on hit us up on Sagram. You know, we'd love to,

you know, have somebody you know make a comment. We uh, we

like responding and interacting with our fans, you know, it's it's great fun

for us, you know. And if you've seen us at a show,

you want to see us at a show, you know, give us a

little a little shout out and we'll let you know what's going on. Absolutely,

And do you do you have any shows coming up this weekend that you

want to plug. We're in in Vermont this weekend, right, yeah,

yeah, we're playing up in Burlington, Vermont place called Red Square. It's

an outdoor show. Uh, get there early because it fills up fast,

and especially if the weather is nice. I should says raining doomsday. Yeah,

but it hasn't rained much this summer, so we should be okay.

That's why Carlo was wearing his red shorts. He has these on all weeks,

same pair. Yeah, he can't take him off until the show.

That's our deal. Oh yeah, alrighty well, that's that's that's your business.

Oh Matt, you have to close of that right sure, absolutely,

guys, Thank you again so much, Mike. From my Queen City Cabinetry

says awesome guests day, Matt, thank you, yeah, guys, thank

you so much. And we will end with this track. This is called

low Lights. This is yeah, this is kind of a little a little

darker. Yeah, it's a different it's a different tune. This is a

mark tune. This is one of the one of the new singles that's coming

out on our new EP. Very good. Oh when is that out?

By the way, the EP, well, it was supposed to be soon

and it's been pushed back a little bit. I would expect it shortly after

Labor Day, so check out our social media. It won't be long.

Excellent, excellent, all right, So we're gonna end with this. This

is thanks again, guys, and this is low Lights from the band Best

Not Broken. Check this out. Won't you drink a little more? It's

such a little child. What a lot of people saying that you're off the

teeth. I won't hurt you, but I'm saying, let you do it

fine now, who knows the truth? In the night time, if it

gets night, let it get a little crazy inside in the nighttime, in

the light, in the meantime, in this down show, I am the

I thinking about chick in the light doesn't feel right, Put another one.

Let's gets fun and then it empties out you all another Now a lot of

people don't in the same with that show. Then I'll let you if I

see my little shop here, not what you tell you. Let's get gone

in the nighttime. If it Bill's night. Let it get a little crazy

inside in the nighttime, in the lower light, in the meantime, in

the s down shop. I am then lot of thinking about you in the

lower light doesn't feel right in the night time. If it feels right,

let it get a little crazy inside in the nighttime, in the lower light,

in the feeling this sounds tracking thing as that t feel right, you

say, like Frankenstein, and I'm the get go and I light it it.

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