Matt Connarton Unleashed: Andy Klosenski

Andy Klesnski, Did I say it right? Oh, I'm sorry, let

me I forget to bring your mic up there? Hey there we go.

Oh yeah, I can hear me now. Very good, very good.

Welcome. Yeah. I like that song a lot. That's good. It's

catchy and um. Jenny and I got a big, big kick out of

when we first watched that that YouTube video where it's you playing outside. It's

like twenty minutes long and you're doing some different songs. That's a lot of

fun. That was. That was kind of my introduction to you seeing you

online and perfect. Yeah, I said, yeah, we gotta definitely got

to get him on. And Andy Klescenski is our musical guest. He's gonna

he's gonna play for us. We're gonna chat a bit between songs, and

uh, this will this will be a lot of fun. Um, and

go ahead and play a little Andy, if you would just kind of get

some levels here, sure, thing should be good. I'll kind of ride

the faders as we go. I'm I'm I'm a sound guy, so I'm

pretty uh, I'm pretty maniacal about it. Almost all right, Okay,

that's fine, Yeah, human compressor. Here we go, very good.

Uh so, yeah, what are you what are you gonna play for us?

You want to tell us anything about the Uh yeah, I'm gonna play

a song called idea Man that's off of that same album, um as the

previous tune, and uh yeah, I mean that's yeah, that's that's That's

about all I got on it right now. I will doodles of dreams rising

off for the pain come be an idea man came in a flashing, agonizing

head. The twist them mustache shall be tying news to the track. I'll

be round the lighting eighty big and wise didn't not touch with fire that which

was lifeless. Now respond, I don't doodles are dreams rising off for the

page? Call me an idea man, amusing gig superman or a park can't

know I am the booth. Call me an idea man, transformer of the

truth for a couple of yucks over a couple of Bucksho no, no such

buck contempt. Consumers all say, for the love of the game, you

still show up the play. You ain't got any leverage, We ain't gone

a bag. What saying idea anyway? I will doodles are dreams rise enough

for page call me an idea man amusing a cage, supermanraca, can't no.

I am the boot, call me an idea man transformed of truth,

the light bulb, brook screw crew choke. I'm never lifting electricity, but

I'm rising occasion. I feel the boy that will never feel I'm a dark

horse. Term up, Yeah, every man her dark Porpuss champions coming,

get give me up until I'm finally in saddled and trenched in battle. I

ran away, My team is battled on me. Now I'm breaking away and

there's new looking back. Ain't no thinking of dreaming lonely hooss on drag.

I gets I'm breaking the crown. Frank Castle, Swan Swiss shacks and highways.

Booe wants cold sex. I go doodles to dreams, rising off for

the page, comed me an, I D man amusing ki superman hurt.

Can't you know? I am the booth cam me an I D Man Trance

Boomer of the Jew love it, thank you. Andy Klasinski is here with

us live in studio. That song is called idea Man and uh Barbe Barton

feelers in the chat room, says Barbe says woo hoo. Andy sing it

and Jenny says woot woot. Yeah, good stuff, thank you. And

that's so. Is that on the RPM Challenge from twenty twenty Yep, that

is that's on the I NFP. That's the that's the first tune. Yeah,

very cool. Um, yeah, I hear a lot about the RPM

Challenge on the show. And now what is it You've got? Like you

got to make a song a day for how many days? No, you

make an album in the month of February. Yeah, twenty twenty eight days

to make a full full length album? Yeah? What what's the minimum number

of songs required to count as an album? In either ten songs or thirty

five minutes? That's oh okay, I got you. Yeah. I usually

end up with eleven songs and I'm usually in right around thirty five minutes.

Yeah, thirty seven. Um, is that the only year you've done it

is twenty twenty and now I did it a bunch of years. Oh,

no, kid, Yeah, I went back to two thousand and seven,

Um, with some other projects and such. Uh wow, yeah, so

it's yeah, that's that's how I started making albums and oh recording. Yeah,

before that, I was just doing stuff with a little four track in

my room and writing writing songs. They had a cut, you know,

Leah Junior High band. You know, it was in a couple of bands,

well not even bands really, just people would get together a little bit

and high school, but it wasn't really doing a lot with it. Yeah,

it kind of fell by the wayside when I left high school and uh

and yeah, and then I picked it up again. I don't know,

early early twenties. Yeah, so right around right around two thousand and seven.

Oh wow, yes, I made a Yeah, they started doing that

and then it just yeah, that's one of those things that like there are

a lot of people who were are veterans around that that they just make RPM

albums. Yeah, over and over and over again. Yeah. Yeah.

Um, it's a fun challenge, is uh what is what does I n

f P stand for? Oh so that's the Myers Briggs personality identify or yes

I should have known. Yeah, introverted, intuitive, feeling perceptive. Yeah,

okay, okay, I don't remember why I h yeah, I took

that test once. I don't remember. I know that I was also an

eye because I'm also an introvert. Yeah, which is why I do this,

Because I feel safest. I would say I feel safest behind a microphone,

much more so than like, I don't go to parties or anything.

I'd rather be behind a microphone or on a stage or something. That's where

I feel the most comfortable. It's funny how that worked, isn't it It

is? Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of them. I mean,

there's a lot of famous people who are actually introverts because you know,

they they love performing, but they'd rather do that than do a lot of

social things. Some of the boisterous ones too, some of the like like

the bold ones like Prince, Freddie Mercury, Michael Jackson, those guys were

all, oh yeah, quite introverted. Yeah, oh yeah absolutely. Um

can you tell me too? Some of your songs are pretty funny. Um,

oh, thank you, there's that one. I wasn't going to ask

you to play this one necessarily. I'm not sure the lyrics would would fly

on on on an FM show, But you know the song I'm thinking of,

I don't know. I mean, you can be describing a lot of

songs discography, that's true. Why yeah, used White sab I think it's

called Oh you don't think that's gonna fall that's that's pretty funny. Well,

uh, let me look at the Let me look at the lyrics again.

I was planning on plane. Let me well, I might have it confused

with another song. Let me look at these lyrics again. Um, maybe,

oh, maybe I might be thinking of a different song because these these

look all right, see this the thing is like, I don't I don't

really drop a lot of like F bombs anything like that. Yeah, that's

true. It's innuendo and yeah, that's the thing. That's the thing.

It's like innuendo and oh kind of having some you know, yeah, you

know what. Actually I might have been thinking of a different song. I

mean this one there's a line in here, and that's really funny. But

I think it's actually fine. I don't I don't see what the problem would

be. Yeah. See, yeah, I'm glad I looked at it because

you're right, this one's okay, it's funny. I see now I actually

want to hear it. Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's yeah, that's

that was That was gonna be like one of my one of my clothing.

I'm like, oh, we don't pull that one over from under me?

All right? Good good? Yeah, great, Yeah, yeah, okay,

um, well, in the meantime, so it sounds like you want

to say that one for later though. So in the meantime, do you

want to play? You want to play something else? You know what I

mean? We can yeah, let me play something else. Okay, let

me play something else first, all right. And if you're just joining us,

Andy Klesnski is here with us in studio. All right, whenever you're

ready, sir. Sure, this one's called We can take our time.

This is a newer one. This isn't on a record. Nice dun doy,

you can know it, Jane, you mind babyingyy dulling week and take

time. Try to meet the world face to face. They always look at

me so strangely, like come from out of space. But I'm not the

only one who feels out of place. We built the bath of pain,

doing the fudge. It takes like I I was in the rain, Boober.

Never break what is lost and what remains one and the same. You

choose as to make dunly dooy, you can always change you mind. They

and he who dolling week can't take time? Who tell on me? Is

the song? And I can say to change you mind? You can't think

it over and dunk and night hard to find. We can take our time

wear in the world. Will we go when it seems the world just doesn't

want or even wants to know. I'm not the only place. We liveing,

live and grow. We'll win event disdaining any inform takes Like I was

in the rain, Booby, never break. You don't have to go with

all on your own. You can believe then your night alone, dullly doy,

you can always change you mind being and you dull and we can't take

time. Oh dall me use this song and I can say to change you

mind. You can't think it over, dull and night hard to find.

We can take all time, we can take on, we can take all

time. We can take all time. Very nice, Thank you, very

nice. Andy Klesnski is here with us live in studio. Here's our new

name in the chat room. Might be a fan of yours. Tony Santess

santissbook friends. Yeah very good, Yeah yeah, he joins us in there,

and Archer Flight says uh tell Andy k we say, keep up the

good work. Excellent and you and Mike from Queen's City Cabinetry says I really

like that one. Yeah, me too. Can you tell us a little

bit about influences Andy, I'm I'm hearing some different things in there, but

oh that song was kind of like a seventies Motown inspired sort of thing.

Yeah. Yeah. It started off me like kind of trying to write a

Jackson five song, like yeah, you know, like you know, maybe

Tomorrow or something something like that. Okay, um, yeah, but it's

a little this is the thing. It's like, so I listened back to

and I'll like go, okay, well, let's listen to Jackson like that

kind of air of Jackson five and to go back and it never can say

goodbye, and that's like tight, clean composition, like that's very Yeah.

I got like a ton of chords in the year and stuff, so yeah,

yeah, I have a hard time not not playing a million chords.

But yeah, I start playing seventh chords and it just it just goes and

goes. Yeah. Yeah. Do you always are you always a solo act?

Do you ever play with other musicians at this point? Yeah, I'm

pretty much always a solo act. Um. Yeah, just getting hooking up

with musicians, being able to put in you know, the time to get

things tight and get things where they need to be, because my stuff's not

you know, it's not it's not virtuosic. You don't have to be remember

Frank Zappa's band to play it, but it's you know, it's it's not

exactly easy either, so right, right, I don't want to make sure

that everything's nailed down well, like you were saying too, you know,

you've got a lot of chords in there, and uh, yeah you've played

in bands before though, I would assume, right, or yeah, a

little bit here and there. Yeah, yeah, do you ever, um,

do you ever think about putting a band together to play this? Yeah?

Periodically? Yeah, yeah, um, but yeah, it's about about

getting the pieces to come together. Yeah. Um, gets trickier the further

away you get from you know, twenty twenty three, so yeah, you

know, yeah, but I'm definitely open to it. And um, looking

looking a little harder than I had been before. Really okay? Interesting?

Um, and you live in is it the Seacoast area where you live?

Yeah, I'm over writing right, technically I'm in Madbury, so I'm okay,

yeah, write in between Dover and Durham. Okay, Yeah, I

was commenting on the show earlier my dad who um, you know, obviously

he's an older guy, but he's um, he's very into new music,

like he listens to wu in h. He lives out there. He lives

in Dover. Yeah, and um, you know he has gone out to

see some some live music. So I was commenting, he'll probably text me

later. I was commenting earlier on the show. He might have seen you

live at some point or just seen you around the scene because he's he pays,

he pays a lot of attention. But um, yeah, if he

I mean, if he frequents any open mic nights that all he's there's a

good good chance that he's definitely seen me. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

Yeah. And this there's a lot of great talent from that area.

I've always really thought that, you know, the music scene around there,

and there's some good places to play too. Where do you, um,

where do you play? Do do mostly open mics or do you ever do?

Uh? At this point, I'm doing a lot open mics. Um.

Starting to play some more shows now, actually got one coming up this

Saturday, oh High Fi Brewing. Yeah, I'm opening for a band called

Marvel Prone. Yes, we've had them on the show. Yeah, yeah,

that might actually that might be. Yeah, we got connected with you

Madison. Oh yes, yes, Madison Rousseau. Yeah, absolutely excellent,

excellent. So you're gonna be opening for them? That's cool? Yeah,

oh yeah, it should be should be fun. We good time. Um

do you, um, do you often get to do that where you obviously

you know you're you're doing the solo thing, but do you have a lot

of Does I come up a lot where you get to open for a full

band or or do you often play That's how I used to do it,

to be honest with you, Yeah, that's how I, um, you

know, I would get some shows here and there, kind of sporadically.

Yea. Um, but a lot of places they're looking to book a band,

looking to book somebody with some with a rhythm section, right, Um,

So a lot of times what I would be doing is I would be

opening for other musicians, for other other acts, and um, yeah,

there were a number of them. Uh you know eight seven, eight,

ten years ago that I was doing that with Oh okay, and I kind

of I kind of left the scene a little bit, yeah, twenty eighteen

Ishka nineteen, Yeah, I wasn't really doing very much of anything. Yeah.

Yeah, now I'm now I'm getting back out again. So yeah,

yeah, a lot of fun and um, when you record. We were

talking earlier about the the RPM challenge, Where do you record? Do you

just do you do everything at home? And do you do do you do

that yourself? Or Yeah, that's where I was doing all my stuff.

I've got a little stand alone it's called a Korg D eight eighty eight.

It's a little stand alone. It's a digital, yeah, a recorder,

but it's not a dot. It's not using a computer. Um, just

a hard drive, an internal hard drive and uh and I've been using that

since two thousand and seven, no kidding, the same the same machine things

on its last legs. Yeah. I just bought a task Gam twenty four

track oh wow, less than a year ago. It's it's a similar situation.

So the idea is that I'm gonna move over to this other one that's

got more tracks available. Then I'm gonna do all the basic tracking and then

send it along to somebody who can collaborate and make it, yeah, make

it better. Yeah, that's cool though that you know, I mean,

if it still works, I mean, that's that's great and You've obviously gotten

a lot of mileage out of out of that cord. That's pretty cool,

an awful lot. That's great. Well you want to you want to play

another song? Yeah, yeah, I think I'll do that. I'd like

to hear more. And uh so this next one is is a newer one

as well. I don't have this one, um there. There are a

bunch of songs that I've been playing out now. Yeah. The most of

my life set is stuff that I don't have on record yet. Okay,

so this one is called U called Dancing while You're Burning Alive? Do you

mind if I do this without the cans? Is that? Oh no,

that's fine. Yeah, whatever works for you. I'll make sure that I'm

up here on the mic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no worries.

All right. I'm a man of the world, but the world too small.

Walk ride up the bruising image and dare myself the fall, jump right

into the ocean, looking for my depth. Settled in a in a border

town, on the edge of lifing and depth, got that divine execution.

I'd wear a bolt to lightning out so I can practice on my elocution.

But you ain't gonna know who what I'm talking about. If I can't find

some solution, i am I ever to survive? It's a board on conclusion,

like dancing nobody burning alive, ain't afraid of no man in black going

around and taking knee signed mine on a tighted line with a puckered, curbing

lip stixteen is my brain is a bubble and toldan just blew with the dash

point. Ain't ready to come down yet? Get him halfway from my last

point art of mine electricution. I'd wear them both to lightening out so I

can practice on my elocution. But you ain't gonna know what I'm talking about.

If I can't find some solution, how am I ever to survive?

It's full one conclusion, like dancing a while you're burning alive. Yeah,

you're getting shimmy beneath my feet for my legs. Ain't gonna quit. I'm

breaking cart in the sugar glass. I'm gonna mind that, the kennels on

my birthday cakes, and I'm gonna live. Why I said beside to side,

and I'm anna side and fire down the mouth to side. The conflagrations

like a congregation singing the gospel because of Norang Sky I'm shedding on my skin,

can't nothing hold me, and I'm meling like paraffin. I gotta cut

off, get off, Get off. There. You're gonna know what I'm

talking about because I'm ten foot tughfullyproofing that, because James, they're gonna hanging

in the lou but you're still trying to build crame. I'll burn every bridge

to night and bos myshing a little with the flames, and I'll be huddled

in the rub of a walk in the morning with only myself to blame,

and not divine electrocutions that folds of lightning and wears me out. Said,

I can practice on my illocution, but even I don't know what I'm talking

about. Send song through the lightning, and if that storm I'm gonna arrive.

You can't find methending off the dirtness dancing, or while I'm burning alive.

You can't find me fending off the dirtness dancing while I'm burning alive.

And you can't find meythingding off the dirtness dancing or while I'm burning. I'm

burning, I'm burning, I'm burning, I'm burning, I'm burning, I'm

burning. Nice You do fit a lot of chords in there. Hawf a

lot. Yeah. Tamson Churchill and the Facebook live chat says love the energy,

thank you. And we also got a message on the text line Holly

from Dover says, sounds great, very good, very good. Thank you,

Holly. Dany Klesnski is here with us live in studio. Is there

any kind of a story to that song? I feel like a song involving

being on fire and might might have a story. Yeah. Um, so

that was written in a style of um of a band that I that I

like quite a bit. There's some friends of mine and um and so I

I, you know, just as an exercise, I'm like, I wonder

if I can try to write a song like that. Yeah. So I

did, and uh yeah, and that's what came out. That's that's that's

I guess that's pretty much it. Yeah. Um, you know there's a

little bit of h Yeah. Yeah, that's a good question. It's a

good question. I didn't really I didn't really stop and think about it too

much. Do lyrics Do lyrics come to you easily or sometimes sometimes not?

Yeah, more often than not, they don't, really, Um yeah,

yeah, it's it's the melodies, the melodies and chords come easy. Yeah.

Um. Yeah. The last part is the lyrics, getting those to

fit. I like to try to fit them, especially because I get kind

of particular about melody these days, So I like try to fit them neatly

over the melodies so that the accents of the words are going to with the

accents of the melody. You don't have those two two things fighting gotcha?

Gotcha? Um has your style changed it all over the years and or in

terms of how you how you approach it and what the songs are like,

Oh yeah, very much so. Um. So early on, I was

trying to do stuff like Frank Zappa Captain Beefheart. I was trying to do

stuff that was that was pretty off the wall. Yeah. Um. You

know there was a bit of like a bit of musicianship going on there too,

with like trying to you know, compose stuff a little bit more.

Um. I kind of settled in after a while, um, doing like

a singer songwriter thing, mostly out of convenience, to be honest, um,

because it's just me and the guitar. Yeah. So that's um,

It's it's just a lot easier. It's a lot easier to get out and

perform your stuff to play. You know, I was playing open mics a

bunch, and I was trying to adapt these songs that I had overdubbed,

all these guitar lines and bass lines and stuff. Thankfully I didn't do too

much percussion, so you didn't. You weren't missing too much. You're missing

a little bit of a you know, a cohone and some moroccas. That

was about it right recording. But yeah, it gets tough to kind of

balance all those elements. So yeah, just at a at a convenience,

I started writing the singer songwriter. Now, now I guess I'm that guy.

Did you ever do the looping thing live or anything like that? Never

did that? Um, To be honest, that's a terrifying it's a terrifying

proposition for me, just because there's so many things that can go wrong.

You're tapping the thing like that, that learning curve. A guy named Tim

Bear, Um do I see at the open mic nights? Shout out to

Tim Baar tim Bear music. He Uh he does looping stuff. Yeah,

you got called him loops. He's just he's that guy and he's and he's

got it down. He's got it down. Here he does a real good

job with it. Yeah. The other thing too, is about looping stuff.

Um. For me, like when I write songs, I'm they're always

changing a little bit. Stuff's always shifting around. And if I have like

a chord progression, that's kind of going around and around. Um. I

just like to dart and change directions so often, so I can't commit to

like a four or eight bar sort of thing very often. I got you.

Um, So that's that's the other thing too, is that you know,

as just compositionally like sitting down going all right, well, maybe I

take the hit, learn how to deal with the loops and you know,

and you know, loop something and then play over it. Um. Yeah,

yeah, yeah, it's I don't know, it's still not out of

the question, I guess. Yeah, No, that makes sense what you're

saying though. It's it's it's kind of like when a band plays to a

click track. Yeah, you know, like like especially big arena bands who

you know, they've got a lot of special effects and whatnot, so they

have to play to a click track and they have to you know, can't

I can't change anything on the fly, can't you know, maybe add an

extra chorus at the end of the song or anything that. You know,

they have to stick with exactly what they have because of that click track and

they have to you know, they have to stay committed to it. And

I guess with the looping it it's kind of a similar thing, right where

you know, once you do that, you have to commit to it.

Or because there's there's I mean, I guess in theory, maybe you could

change change it on the fly, even with looping things, but there is

a lot that can go wrong. Yeah, yeah, and I guess too,

Yeah you can undo loops and redo loops or something. Yeah, but

if you're layering a lot of stuff, but yeah, that'd be it seems

straight. You know who who else is great too? I don't know if

you've ever heard of her two Yards. Have you ever heard of that artist?

I don't think so. She does. I think she's originally out of

mass Um, but uh yeah, her name is Meryl Garbas and she does

these amazing things with loops. Um makes these great records and when you see

her live, like the way she delivers that and everything just lines up,

everything is like and she's building it like she'll build it there in front of

this was the thing with a loop thing is that you start it and you

build it up in front of everybody, and that's kind of like, yeah,

you know, part part of the secret sauce. Yeah, um and

uh and yeah she would do that. But everything it's just right on.

It's almost like you might as well be on a click, like a really

grooving click track, but like just how well it's like she's able to lock

that in and change stuff on the floor. Yeah, right right, Yeah,

Yeah, she's unbelievable. I saw that. She's almost like a virtuos

Oh no kidding. Yeah, yeah, some people get really adapt at at

pulling that off. But yeah, I must take a while to really cut

that down at So do any of those songs that you did early on where

you would have to kind of adapt them for the live performance, did any

of those survived? You do play any of those now or or did you

give those up? I haven't played too many of them. A lot of

them did survive. Um, they were quite I mean I say a lot

of them. I guess it was a relatively small percentage, but a good

number. Yeah, I've I've got a couple that I still play. I've

got a couple that I'm going to be playing pretty recent, pretty you know,

upcoming um pretty soon. Yeah. So there are a couple of yeah,

a couple of those that that there am dusting them off right now.

I've been so focused on playing the newer stuff. Yeah, that you must

do you know how many songs you've recorded, because it sounds like you've recorded

a lot with all the RPM challenges and recorded. I mean, yeah,

I don't know one hundred two hundred, so this just recorded. I mean

I've been writing songs since it was eleven. Yeah. Yeah, you've bits

and pieces of stuff lying around all over. Yeah. Do you still remember

the first song you ever wrote? Not? Well? Yeah, well I

think mercifully not well. I get it wasn't very good. I don't.

I don't think to ask everybody that, but I get I get very different

answers. Some people will tell me, oh, yeah, I remember everything

about it. I don't remember who it was. But I had one guest

who told me, yeah, I actually still play the first song I ever

wrote. It's like, wow, yeah, when did they start writing?

If that's the case, Like, I guess I wrote it when they were

like, you know, eighteen or twenty two, or something. Yeah,

it wouldn't wouldn't be too cringe, but if you're eleven, I mean,

I it's funny. I you know, I'm a musician. I'm not active

in that at the moment. But I remember, I actually remember some of

the first songs I ever wrote. I thought I was a really good lyricist

when I was really young, and I and I also remember finding those songs.

I thought I was a very I thought I was and then I remember

finding those songs years later, and I and I remember ripping them up and

throwing them out because I didn't want anyone ever see them. Yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, that's that's a mood. Yeah. I was like,

I mean, there's nobody else in the room, and yet I'm looking

at these papers and I'm like, wow, that's really embarrassing. Yep.

You know, like like like John bon Jovi but with severe head trauma.

You know, like these are horrible lyrics. But uh oh boy, yeah

yeah, I mean you got to start someone, right, Yeah, exactly,

exactly. Um, well, let's uh, I'd love to hear another

song. If you want to play something, yeah, yeah, I think

I want to do that, all right. Awesome, if you're just joining

us. By the way, Andy Klazynski is here with us in studio and

he is playing live and we're talking and we're having a great time. This

next song is called used White. Sob oh, all right, I'm ready

sorry, pardon me, yeah, I go, oh yeah, No worries

staying dude, thing TV, dinner or dube, and stayly clear. Look

in the mirror, see who's staying in there morning each thin gray strains of

hair. I've no illusions about true romance infatuation at a pasting glance. All

I'm hoping for is one more chance, dying mind beard for the sameingle stands.

And if all else fails, I'm gonna wrap a roller quarters in the

tube side stop it down the front of my pangs. I'm punching out of

my weight class tonight, and I ain't leaving the finger chance rap the mortar.

Oh, I'll be cruising the streets, so you know, oh oh,

I ain't no stretched limousine, No, honey, I'm gonna used by

sip something you can drive and do the ground with dignity. Time the one

job. Reach into your jacket pocket of a piston full of fire, Lock

me up and fog up my windows. Turn up the god dance stereo.

We're on most stereo, and Nah is playing back on the market end of

my brand cologne on the dresser for ru Wan nightstand lotion on the nightstanding my

cod right hand. Maybe the bar scene on who week and nine, or

an algorithm on a dateing sign by the candle of my phones blue light finger

reluctingly swiping. Rime and severus will be going at each other in the darkness,

stumbling out of a pagance. I'll paple the inks and the dinner,

but I ain't fighting heartbreaking it dance maserati, always peeling away in the pale

morning, like with your hearts, ghastly. Take a flyer on a use

my time something you can drive and do the ground with dignity time, loubo

the job, reaching your jacket pocket'b a biston full of farm, Lock

me up and fog up my windows. Turn up the god damn stair.

We're on most Fairier. Oh, I'm gonna use my time something you can

drive into the ground with dignity time the unbow the job. Can you jacket

pocket of a biston full of farm, Lock me up and fog up my

windows, turn up the god damn stair We're on most dairril oh nice used

wide sob from Andy Klesnski. Here in the Facebook latch at, Jenny says

he's so much fun. I love it and uh Holly A Furlan says,

clap clap. That name is Familiarshi a musician yeah from uh oh yeah,

yeah, yeah, I think I think I've met her through Uh No,

I can't remember his name anyway, it doesn't matter. I see you meet

so many people in the scene, you know how it is. Yeah,

yeah, but I think I've met Holly before. Um oh, I met

her the Earthiegel Uh Earthiegel North Open Mic in Summer's Worth. Oh okay,

yep yep, uh Barb Barton Feeler says love it and j Fed really oh,

j Fed really likes that as well. Oh and Ryan Walters is in

the spook lap chatt and says all second the clap clap beautiful, thank you,

and we have a call. We'll grab this. I think this might

be our friend Charles from Florida. Charles, is that you? Yeah,

it's me. I want to ask him, is how how hard is it

to write a song? Do you do these things come to you like en

like fifteen twenty minutes, or do you spend like days at a time or

weeks at a time trying to compose the song and get everything written together lyrics

first, or do you do tunes first. So sometimes it thinks incredibly easy

to write songs to the point where they just keep flowing and they don't stop,

and it almost becomes a problem in your life. At least for me.

That's sort of a dancing while you're burning alive kind of situation. Other

times it's incredibly difficult to write them, especially when you're trying to complete them.

I guess I wish I had. So it's not an original answer,

but I think it's a fitting answer. Um anywhere from fifteen minutes of fifteen

years, it can take an awful long time to write songs. As far

as words first versus music, it's almost always music. For a while,

I was writing melodies first, so I would always have tunes that I was

turning around in my head. So even before I put my hands on a

guitar or anything else, it was a tune that I was working on.

But mostly mostly now I'm sitting down with a guitar I'm playing around, I'm

finding chord changes that I like, and yeah, and then following yeah,

you know, coming up with the melody. Yeah, those things can feed

each other. Oh, thank you so much, appreciate it. Very good.

Yeah, just curiosity on the ones that came with you instantaneously. Has

that been one of the ones you played today? Great question? Dancing while

You're burning alive? Came pretty fast? Yeah, that came. Yeah,

it's a bunch of words and everything. That came pretty fast because it was

it was so freeing because I was writing other kinds of music and you know,

stuffitely it gets, it gets kind of baroque after a while. A

lot of chords, a lot of melodies, a lot of range, and

yeah, and you're you're writing these words and you're trying to make them fit

over something, and then you do something that's kind of a straightforward rock and

roll thing. The cadence is a lot easier that, like, everybody kind

of has written in that cade. Not everybody, but a lot of people

have written that. Caden's going all the way back to old country music,

So you can just kind of fall into it and then the words just kind

of float, even if they're not very obvious words like you can just fit

more words in there because it's just it's an easier kind of form to write

in, I find. But as far as those go, I DA man

came kind of. That came pretty quick as well. That came together.

That was a few days still, you know, because you write down lyrics

and you'll get like an idea, you'll get some sketched lyrics or whatever.

You get a verse, but you won't get the rest of it, or

you get the chorus, but you don't get anything else. And if you

don't jump on that quick, then you just have a chorus and you're sitting

on that for four years. Yeah, so I guess those two came pretty

quick. Um. Yeah, the other stuff was a little bit labored.

How long? Um, when did you first pick up a guitar? Like?

Are you self taught or did you take lessons? How did you get

to be so crafty with with an instrument? Oh? Thank you? Um?

So I was fortunate enough to um to both have access to um uh

you know, lessons. Um. You know, my folks could afford to

give me to get me lessons and stuff. Uh. And I also had

an older brother who had a guitar, So there was always a guitar kind

of around the house, at least starting I don't know, I think he

had on the fourteens. That would be like I don't know, seven or

eight or something. Yeah, yeah, so I mean, I mean going

all the way back, like I mean, there are pictures of me,

like standing in front of a television in diapers, like holding a tennis racket

backward like a guitar would. I would watch MTV like as yeah, old

enough to stand holding the tennis racket as a guitar, so like it was

always kind of there. But a tennis racket is very very far from a

stratocaster, so like you still have to learn a bunch of skills and stuff.

And I that was I've been doing a car hero a part of your

learning product. Absolutely not, absolutely not, No, I am off with

that. I'm still off of them because I tend to I tend to sit

behind the beatum and if you get something that's a little bit quick and you're

behind the beat, and you're because you're not supposed to be on there.

You're supposed to be exactly on the beat when you're playing guitar het because it's

a video game. It's bac man, it's not right, it's not You're

not playing in a band, right, so yeah, endless source of frustration.

Yeah, no, none of that. UM is just an acoustic guitar

and some black sabbath, some black yeah nice, some black sabbath. Some

Michael Jackson couldn't figure out how to make the two meat until yeah, I

don't know. Very cool. All right, well I'll let you too get

back to it. Thank you very much. All right, awesome, appreciate

the call. Thank you, than give you the question. All right,

very good. By the way, Holly says in the tram, Yeah,

I thought, yes, Jim Tarrell uh introduced us. I do remember,

now, Holly. She said, Uh, yes, Jim Tarrell was recording

a show with you and I swung by to check it out. Long time

ago. Yeah, that was a long time ago, but I do remember.

I do remember that now. Yes, Melanie had some questions about the

lyrics for in uh in that that that song used white SOB. But the

questions are I think, well, we'll leave those speaks. But that song,

that song does make me laugh. That that's a lot of fun.

Yeah, mission accomplished. Yeah, Yeah, that was based that was kind

of a like a yacht rock pastiche. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of

supposed to have that sort of doobie bounce. Yeah, a little bit of

a little bit of Mike McDonald there. Oh yeah, yeah, I like

it. Boy, his name comes up a lot on the show recently.

I'll be done. We got the Michael McDonald's shirt. Yeah. Oh that's

so cool. Fulton of Smooth Baby. Yeah, yeah, I don't I

don't know if you know this, but so David Crosby before he died.

It might have been the last interview he did. He was on the Howard

Stern Show, and um, he said during that interview that and I guess

they were very close friends to uh uh Crosby and Michael McDonald. But he

said that, um, he believed that Michael McDonald was currently the best male

singer in the entire United States, but nobody could sing better than Michael McDonald

in his opinion. Yeah, I mean at this in this date. Yeah,

this was well, this would have been within the last year. But

when he but when he said it, he was speaking at the present time.

He said, Michael McDonald's Michael McDonald is the best male singer in the

entire country. Um. I mean, granted he's biased because they're very good

friends too. I think Michael McDonald is on doing some backing vocals on the

last album that David Crosby I did backing vocals like Nobody's Business. Oh yeah,

the Steely Dan Records. Yeah, and then well it was so much

so that you if you listen to other like kind of soft rock or goat

rock tunes from that, like late seventies, early eighties, there are a

bunch of them that have guys, Yeah, it's not Michael McDonald. They're

just trying to sound like Michael McDonald. They're like Michael McDonald clones, right

right, Yeah, Um, I find I found over the years to this

day, some people don't realize that. I like to use the example of

the Christopher Cross song ride like the Wind, Yeah, and a lot of

people don't even realize it. Yeah, the deep voice on that, that's

Michael McDonald A long way to Go. Yeah, I can't do there.

You sounded like him. Just now. When you did that, you really

sounded I can't you know, I can't sound like him. You want to

do that one more time? That sounded really good? Do you sound like.

It's an easy one to it's kind of I mean, if you got

like if you got the tenor thing. Yeah, it's it's yeah. He

I don't do impressions very well, but that's one that you just kind of

you but put one finger in your ear like you're like you're recording something like

the one hand on. That's awesome. So you do sound like him.

Yeah, I'm not gonna try to do anymore. I don't quite have those

high notes anymore, not today anyway. But Tampson Churchill says, says,

so good. I don't know if that's in reference, so the Michael McDonald

impression or the song or both, but yeah, I think it's in reference.

I think it's explicitly in reference to Michael. Yeah. I just playing

a hunch on that one. You want to play another song? Yeah,

yeah, I got another one. Cool. Cool if you're just joining us.

Andy Klesinski is here in studio with us. So this one's a newer

one. I don't have this on our record yet. Cool. That last

one used white sab that's on that record, I NFP. Yeah, it's

the one of the kind of the dark cover. It's just my face on

it. Yeah, um, I think the other one's a dark cover with

my face on too, that it's not really narrowing it down one that the

one that doesn't have the jar babies. And if you have to ask and

then check it out, all right, here we go. It's called disco

tech of one. Cocaine and cold champagne dying in the more Miami sun might

as well be pouring rain and dancing in my disco tech up one. I'm

spending on Ruller skates, but my heart's about to break it. I'm crying

ryan stone tears like chandeliers on down my face. My mirror bald eyes shimmered.

Even when I'm not alway disco tech discontent, I'm too busy crying to

help one agitations what you meant, baby, I'm a disco deck up one.

I'm working to earn my living. Hardly any livings get in done.

So if I'm making with there, you giving living in my disco deckup one.

Tired of the tired like inspiration, calmed with me on high, luv

me take me high, you baby, like a fall of fire across the

sky, all those spirling lights and colors, cursing to my ros and cones,

all the fights of fear and fancy fall and out the microphone on,

all those aspirations, aspirating in a hotel room along disco tech disk in.

Tell I'm too busy crying to have fun agitations. What you meant, BB,

I'm a disco tech up one. I'm working to earn my living,

but hardly any livings get in done. So if I'm making with the eat

giving living in my disco tech up one, whoopings private planes? Never was

the light buppy, all that cocaine coursing through your veins, flying high and

headed for the trees. Look out, my feet are on the ground getting

the round. The empty dance floor shimmers pools of tears and scattered like setting

sun reflecting off my mirror ball eyes. My boogie night is just be gone.

Dancing in my disco tech up one, dancing in my disco tech up

one, dancing in my disco tech up one, dancing in my disco DICKO.

Nice, I love that, Thank you, I love that. That

is really really good. Uh Andy Klocenski is here with us a live in

studio. Hey, before we run out of time, I want to make

sure that people know where to find you online, especially where people might some

people might struggle with spelling your last name. Yeah, they don't know.

Yeah, yeah, I mean three three syllables. Three three were letters per

syllable, all phonetic, but it's it's a weird string of phonemes, right,

and so it's Andy Kloucenski k l o s is and Samuel E.

N is in nitrogen s is in Samuel ki Kloucenski uh dot com. Andy

Klosnski. Yes, you got a brand new website. I saw that it

looks new. Uh, it's pretty new. Yeah. Yeah, Oh Joy

Duran joins us in the Facebook live chat. Hello, Joy, you want

to sneak one more in? We got we got time for for one more?

If you want? Good question? Probably aren't you shouldn't die? Yeah?

Sees a moment. I'm gonna do something off of one of my other

albums called We're Alive. Okay, this one is called Diane all right.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I can hear the shower running over you,

dying, steam all around you like a crime. Whoa hot nights, moonlight

tower around you, head, live, limbs warm, skin, climbing into

bed, maneuvering, like poetry over me dying. Each limb stands and each

inch, and I am bright. I find mine few tangles up your hare,

reach out nine times the middle of the night, but you not that

you're dying. Whoa boo the ship sweeling my hand, woo woo. But

I'm longing for dry let whoa o boo on. Of course I know Australia,

and bring awake and night to understand whoa whoa that a man just ain't

a man. Then he's back in your rooms. Dye, yeah, yeah,

dangle of bodies and sheets. Oh the feeling of leaving your feet while

loue wayward. We're stilling, climbing so high to our heads hit the ceiling

again. Can't let you get away? I ain't. I could have seen

it coming from here to old shine. But every time I play, I

tip my hand, gnolling water spinning down the drain, still like bother when

only lonely SuDS remain, because I can hear the shower running lonesomesian. It's

running far from over you. I'm dying, and cascade that made tiny view

legs down your shoulders, face necking, freckled breast, dying, whoa a

boo. The ship's wheeling my hand a whoa a whoa, But I'm longing

for dry land. Whoa whoa? On of course I know Australia and bring

awake and I to understand whoa whoa that a man just ain't a man him

till he's back in your wrongs die Yeah yeah, untangle of bodies and sheets,

over the feeling of leaving your feet, my loueyward, we're stealing,

climbing so high into our heads. Hit the ceiling again. Oh one who

dying, dying, zow me of my past beliefs. Bring your loving thank

to me. Diayah yah da yeah yeah yeah him da ya ya da.

Oh that's off my album We're Alive. Oh that is awesome. That is

awesome. Thank you so much. I'm glad. I'm glad we were able

to get one more in Andy Klasinski. This has been wonderful. Thank you,

my friend, Yes, thank you for having me like this has been

great. Really enjoyed it.